1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: I Am all In. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Let's Kiss You, I Am all In with Scott Patterson, 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: an iHeartRadio podcast, Hey. 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one eleven productions, 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio, iHeart Podcast, iHeartMedia. One on one interview with 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: John A. Kippellis. John played the role of orientation leader 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: for one episode in two thousand and five in Fight 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Face Season six, episode two. As the orientation Leader, his 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: bio is quite extensive. He's best known for his portrayals 10 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: of Janitor Carl Red in The Breakfast Club and Detective 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Donald Shank in Forever Night. And alumnus of Second City, Chicago. 12 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: John theatrical work spans eight years from Second City's touring 13 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Company seventy eight to eighty two to six reviews as 14 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: a member of the famed Resident Company eighty two to 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: eighty six, and finally Second Citi's critically claimed returned to 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Off Broadway in Orwell That Ends Well in the former 17 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Village Gate in New York City. His appearances in three 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: John Hughes film Sixteen Candles, Breakfast Club, and Weird Science 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: earned him fame in the eighties as a character actor. 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: He's at over two hundred film and TV appearances and 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: worked on television shows such as Miami Vice as a 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: corup public Defender, Desperate Housewife, Queer's Folk, The X File, Seinfeld, 23 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Home Improvement, Dead Like Me, e R, Boston Legal. The 24 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: list of the films he appears includes of Shape of Water, Legally, 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Blonde rocksand Nothing in Common, The Boost, Internal Affairs. I 26 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: give you, John Cappellis, how are you? Nice to meet you? 27 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too, Thanks for coming on. I'm 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 1: very very excited because you work your first your first 29 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: gigs was maybe your first gig was working with Michael Mann. 30 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, way back when. It was for a brief moment. 31 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: In Thief, one of my He's one of my favorite directors. 32 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite movies. 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: I've got a wonderful movie coming out now right and 34 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 3: which I guess I'm going to go to the screening soon. 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: Have you seen it? Have you seen the new film? 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: No is? What is Oh Ferrari? No? 37 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I have not seen it, but 38 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: I know there's going to be a heat too. It's 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: like a prequel, so all very exciting stuff. 40 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: But listen, let's he's a pretty dynamic guy, and obviously 41 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: you know, with Miami Vice and a lot of stuff. 42 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm glad to see him doing something, you know, 43 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. Right, he's kind of I guess, 44 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: part of the older guard now right. 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, he's but he's still you know, intense 46 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: and demanding and. 47 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: Nacious. He's a he's a he's a I think he's 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: a a legendary filmmaker. I think he's you know, I 49 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: think he's pretty darn good. You know, for sure, for 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: sure that he doesn't need my affirmation. But you know, I, 51 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: you know, I glanced off him. I you know, I 52 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: honestly don't know whether he'd remember me, but I certainly 53 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: remember him. You know, these guys work with a lot 54 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: of people, right, sure, sure, but not to say I mean, 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: my my experience on Thief was not that it was 56 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: pre memorable in that it was a beginning thing for me. 57 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: I didn't do really much. I'm sort of barely in 58 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: the film. But my my real experience, not necessarily with him, 59 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: although with his his company was Miami Vice per season, right, right, 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: I did. I did an episode in Miami of course. 61 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, exciting series. It really took over television. It was 62 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: kind of the series on TV when don't we? 63 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and it was that you know, MTV 64 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: cops sort of right, you know, slash thing. Right. 65 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: So when we watched fight Face and saw you playing 66 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: the orientation leader, we we couldn't wait to have you on. 67 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 68 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 1: Were you aware of the series before you were cast 69 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: in that role? 70 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, oh you were of Gilmore Girls, yes? Oh yeah, Oh. 71 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: I think I think the show was, you know, especially 72 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: the first season was such a splash, right, and you know, 73 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: I also really loved, you know, the performances in it. 74 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean, for me, there was a yeah, I mean 75 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 3: I was aware of it as that. But you know, nowadays, honestly, 76 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: with Netflix and all a lot of the ubiquity of stuff, 77 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: I'm not aware of everything. So it's it's not surprising 78 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: to not be something right. 79 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Right, right, right, for sure. But so you were aware 80 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: of it, and I guess they contacted you the straight 81 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: offer and it was did you know did they tell 82 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: you that it was an homage to the breakfast club 83 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: character at all or anything that you would have ever done. 84 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: No, there was a hint of that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 85 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: I mean they were I think that it was there 86 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: in the writing, so I think that, you know, the 87 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: subtlety of that was not lost on me. 88 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: Right, So you got to work with Alexus. I think 89 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: that's the only Gilmour actor you got to work with. 90 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 3: Right. 91 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: You were in two scenes with Alexis tell us her 92 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: and it. 93 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: Was it was kind of you know, obviously not an 94 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: intimate setting, right, Yeah, it was fun. I mean we 95 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: shot it, I believe over Warner Brothers, right, right, you 96 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: tell me because all the not that they all become 97 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: the same room, but I remember it being Warner Brothers, 98 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean it was. It was a pretty 99 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: quick in and out for me. I wasn't you know, 100 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: a huge you know, I think I was only in 101 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: for a day plus. But they were really nice, and 102 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: you know, of course, you know the producers, you know, 103 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: they're just sitting there watching and being really attentive and 104 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: right giving their notes when they could. 105 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: How'd you get started in your acting career. 106 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: I did a play in high school. I did Guys 107 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: and Dolls when I was in grade ten as we 108 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: say in Canada, or tenth grade as basically in the 109 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: United States. I grew up in London, Ontario, and yeah, 110 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: and then you know it's I got bitten by the 111 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: proverbial theater bug. And it's really true. I mean, when 112 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: you when it happens to you, you sort of succumb 113 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: And I sort of went for a few years thinking 114 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: I was going to be something else. I went to 115 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: university and college and thought I was going to be 116 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: an English professor. And then at one point I sort 117 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: of came out of the closet my friends and family 118 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to be an actor, and a lot of 119 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: people I remember when I first told my friends, I 120 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: was around seventeen or then. They all I was we 121 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: were playing baseball. I said, you know, I think I 122 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: want to be an actor, and they all, I'll never 123 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: forget this. Four or five of them fell on the 124 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: green grass and laughed on their backs. So, you know, 125 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: to all the kids and people missing out there, nobody 126 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: ever wants you to do this thing. You know, it's 127 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: your own singular thing, you know, and everybody will always 128 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: laugh at you. And indeed, you know, it was kind 129 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: of laughable at the beginning, right, But you know, everybody, 130 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: you know, unless you're really connected in show business, when 131 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: you say you want to do something, you know, the 132 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: kid at the age of whatever seven rate says I 133 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: want to be an actor. Well, you know, all their 134 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: friends and family throw up their hands and go, well, 135 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: you know, what are we going to do? 136 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: Very true, Very true. It is a common experience. 137 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 4: But but you know, the Back to the Gilmore Girls, 138 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: I mean, the the the there was a kineticism on 139 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: the set which I really liked. 140 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: And there are very very few times when you're working 141 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: in a film or TV show when when you really 142 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: get that. And I sort of want to mention that, 143 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 3: because there's an energy when you work on shows that 144 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: are particularly successful and also really really well written in 145 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: people that you know, I don't know how to say it. 146 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, well, I do know how to say. 147 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: It's kind of like being being in the center of 148 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: a very very quiet room where you know that there 149 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: are a lot of people paying attention, and that's basically 150 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: a film set, right right, right. 151 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Interesting, that's an interesting observation. 152 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: My you know again, my memory of it was that 153 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: was that I'm blanking on her name, the producer of her. 154 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 5: Amy Amy, because she's a good friend of a friend 155 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 5: of mine and I always want to call her by 156 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: my friend's wife's name, which. 157 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: Is a strange sort of fluidian thing. But Amy Amy 158 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: is you know one of those people that doesn't let 159 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: a fly go by her eye without you know, noticing 160 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: what color jacket it has. You know, she's very, very 161 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: attentive to detail. And the thing you realize around being 162 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: really about being around really creative people is they have 163 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: a remarkable eye for detail. It's almost like being with 164 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: a to take the fly analogy to turn it around, 165 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: it's like being with an insect that has this amazing 166 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: ability to see everything. 167 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 168 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: So there, you know, nothing goes unnoticed. Sorry, go ahead, 169 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: and in a similar vibe, let's say to working my 170 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 3: experience with working with John Hughes or something, or even 171 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: Guermo del Toro. I mean, when you're working with people 172 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: that are sort of at the top of the game, 173 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: pretty offing good, right. 174 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: So you have so many TV and film credits, it's 175 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: it took a while to get through the entire list. 176 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 3: Me too, just reading them. 177 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Is the breakfast club uh more often the role you 178 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: get recognized for. 179 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny, it depends on the and I'm 180 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: not being facetious, but it depends on how I look, 181 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: or the day of the week, whatever, how I look 182 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: more than anything. I mean sometimes if I've been if 183 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: my hair is longer, if I'm maybe heavier, you know, 184 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: putting on a roll for Raging Bull or something. People 185 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: recognize me from Seinfeld too, the sniffing to either Seinfeld 186 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: or the Breakfast Club or some John Hughes variant, which 187 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: I'm lucky, you know, I'm I'm happy to be recognized. 188 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: There are actors I have met and ones that I 189 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 3: have known totally escapes an me. What's going on in 190 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 3: their heads when they get recognized. They get angry. It's like, really, 191 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 3: my dad, I say that quite often. My dad had 192 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: a small clothing store. And whenever I'm recognized, which is 193 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: fairly frequently or infrequently whatever, you know, not to but 194 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: you know, it happens. I they're immediately they're in my store, right, 195 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: you know, they're all of a sudden, you're a customer 196 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: in my clothing store. And like, you know, I have 197 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: no reason not to be nice to people that all 198 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, I saw you in something. 199 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: It's like that. But again, there are other performers that 200 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: I behave otherwise and it's a total head scratch to 201 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: me why they do that. But that is not my 202 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: m O. That's not how I'm wired. But it's most 203 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: often I think Breakfast Club or I don't know. I mean, 204 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 3: you know, there are lots of people that have never 205 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: seen the movie. You know, you meet there are fourteen, 206 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: fifteen year olds, ten year olds, you know, twenty five 207 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: year olds, thirty year olds that you know, that's an 208 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: old movie to them. 209 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: Man, right, what do you remember about filming that movie? 210 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: And I was over forty years ago, what do you 211 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: remember filming that? 212 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: I remember a lot about that film because it was 213 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: a seminal experience and it was, you know, one of 214 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: the very first I had just done. I done miamif 215 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: ice don't think I had even done. 216 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: Myne No, I don't think. 217 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: So. 218 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: You did Thief, and I think Breakfast Club right after that. 219 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I had done a small, unremarkable turn in 220 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: Tutsie and right, well that's a whole different story, right, 221 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: that was not in the credits, and I protested that 222 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: beginning you they Dustin and Billy Dot it was. I 223 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: think Breakfast Club was was was rememorable because I was 224 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 3: replacing an actor and they had been in there for 225 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: a long time, and I had done a film before 226 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: that with John sixteen Candles, and he had told me 227 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: before that, oh, you're going to do the Breakfast Club. 228 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I got this part in this movie. And 229 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: then I saw in the trade papers that they were 230 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: doing the movie and I went, oh, well, I guess 231 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: that ship has sailed. And then literally the next day 232 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 3: after I saw it in the papers, they I got 233 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: a call up saying that they've changed their mind with 234 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: regards to Rick Moranis, who was playing the part, and 235 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: was that right? Yeah, he had been cast and they 236 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: shot for several days and Rick wanted to play the 237 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: character as a Russian guy with thick accent and lots 238 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: of gold teeth and big lot of keys between his legs, 239 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: and John said, well, you know, actually the character was, 240 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: you know, went to the school, and that's not the 241 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: way we see it. So they really, you know, had 242 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: a party of the waves, and that was fortuitous for me. 243 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: And I've never met nor talked to Rick Moranis about this, 244 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: so you know, he's had a wonderful career and he's 245 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: a great actor. So I was happy to pick up 246 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: the crumbs. And I had been in New York working 247 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: at the Village Gate and was second City at the time, 248 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: So flew back into Chicago and shot for whatever eight days, 249 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: five days, eight days and the Vectors Club, and it 250 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: was a little bit like showing up. Yeah, you know, 251 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: coming into a classroom in the middle of a semester 252 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: and he knows one another. It's like I'm the new kid. 253 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: But a lot of my I mean a lot of 254 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: my career is like that. You know, I show up 255 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: on a TV show and then you know, I did 256 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: Justified and they've shot five seasons and you know, I'm 257 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: coming on as a guest so's you're always kind of 258 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: an interloper when you're a guest actor. 259 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 260 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: Kind of get used to that. And you know, similar 261 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: with Gilmore Girls. You know, you come in and as 262 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: I only get to work with one of the main characters, 263 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: and right, you know, you know, and I've worked on 264 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: when I did suits, you know I did, and I've 265 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: done a lot of That's kind of been my I want, 266 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: I hate to say my career because I've done other stuff, 267 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: but it's been a lot of my television career has 268 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: been guest appearances on a lot of. 269 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw you have a lot of one episode 270 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: you got a forty eight episode there on what was 271 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: that You were on the series for a while. Oh, 272 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: you were play the detective. 273 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: Right right right? 274 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: Forty eight episodes. 275 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was well, you know, that was 276 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: the sort of thing you know forever Night. I credit 277 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: you know a lot of things. It was really really 278 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: a good experience in a lot of ways. And also 279 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: I credit with it getting comfortable in front of a camera, 280 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: you know, hitherto I mean when you talk about Thief 281 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: and when I think about TOUTSI and those early experiences, 282 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: even Miami Vice, when I worked on that, I didn't 283 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: really really wasn't too savvy with what the camera was. 284 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: So if the camera was over my shoulder and it's 285 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: shooting the person in front of me, you know where 286 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: the computer is or where you are. If I tilt 287 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: my head a little bit, then I'm blocking. So you 288 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: have to be aware of the lens they've got and 289 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: what they're shooting out tight they are and all that stuff. 290 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: And on Miami Vice, I had a little experience where 291 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: Don Johnson got a little bit ticked off at me 292 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: because he thought I was messing with this close up 293 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: when in fact I had no idea what the lens was. 294 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: Did you ever think that those movies that John Hughes 295 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: films would blow up the way they have. 296 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I mean to answer this in 297 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: the long lens. When my dad, when I first told 298 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: my dad I was going to be an actor, my 299 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: dad was kind of you know, he was a good 300 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: guy who was intelligent, and he had he had a 301 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: bit of a futuristic view. He said, you know, John, 302 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 3: not a bad choice because there's going to be more 303 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: room for there's going to be more room for entertainment 304 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: in the future, leisure time, I thought, you know, and 305 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: he was right. So my hope in the early eighties, 306 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: you know, cable was burgeoning, and my thought when I 307 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: did the movie is like, god, I hope they show 308 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 3: this on cable. You know. That was my immediate Like 309 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: they hope that you know, there's this new thing called cable. 310 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: It was nineteen eighty three, Like, I just hope that 311 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: shit they show this on you know, cable TV, and 312 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 3: maybe you know, they'll show the movie there as well 313 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 3: as in the movie themes. But to answer your question, 314 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: whenever anybody, you know, and I was twenty seven when 315 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: I did The Breakfast Club twenty whatever, you know, you 316 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: always think, God, I hope that this is going to be, 317 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: you know, a member forever. And as Woody Allen I 318 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: read recently said, you know, nothing's going to be remembered forever. 319 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: You know. That's so as much as I thought this 320 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: is going to do well after sixteen Candles with John Hughes, 321 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, you know, this guy's got some juice 322 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: in this biss you know, and there was a vibe 323 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: around him that, you know, things were happening, so thought, 324 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 3: but I had no real idea my experience when I 325 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: first saw the movie, The Breakfast Club was in a 326 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: suburban theater in Chicago with an audience. There's a beautiful theater, 327 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: a huge theater filled with teenagers, and I sat in 328 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: the middle of that and I went, Holy shit, is 329 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 3: this is It was like being in the middle of 330 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: a wave, right, It's sort of like a Holy Moly. 331 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: And that's when I thought, Wow, this movie's got some power. 332 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: Little did I know, and you know, the movie's got 333 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: issues in terms of, you know, there are some things 334 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: with it that that are not perfect, but you know, 335 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: teenage years are not perfect, and slutshaming and all that 336 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: stuff will continue to go on regardless of people thinking 337 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: it's incorrect, which it is. But you know, behavior will 338 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: not stop. Bad behavior will not stop, or marginal behavior. 339 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 3: So you know what happens with me with the movie 340 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: is that it happened to me when you know a 341 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: lot of my friends had kids they were younger. Now 342 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: it's happening to me with my friends grandkids. Is you know, 343 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: some kid will be born and it'll blubber till the 344 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: age of three or four, and then I'll I'll know 345 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: it till the age of nine or ten, and all 346 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 3: of a sudden, my friend will pull me said, Hey, 347 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: my son Jeff just turned thirteen and saw The Breakfast 348 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: Club and now wants to speak to you, like, all 349 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: of a sudden, I haven't been on the map for 350 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: fourteen years. With my friends kids and then all of 351 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, they go, I just saw this movie, 352 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: you know, John, you know, and that's when the movie 353 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: sort of all of a sudden, I go, wow, you know, 354 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: it's kind of a coming at age thing. And I 355 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: know this is a long answer for you, but you know, 356 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: when I grew up in the sixties, the movies for 357 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 3: teenagers were shit for the most part. I mean, there 358 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: was Disney stuff and all the stuff that was like, 359 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: you know, supposed to speak to you, like generational stuff. 360 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: There's this movie Wild in the Streets. It was they 361 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: talked down. They were written by old guys in la 362 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: that had no idea how to talk to teenagers. And 363 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: that was John Hughes's appeal because John Hughes basically said, 364 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: he one of my analogies. He was kind of like 365 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: the hip Arlie Brown and that, you know, the adults 366 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: were all and he was just talking to yeah, teenagers 367 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: for better for worse. 368 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Interesting. What are you working on now? 369 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: Boom boom? Interesting, I've managed to I'm working on the 370 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: soap opera. I just finished a round, right. I saw 371 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: that days of our lives have been playing this Greek 372 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 3: character named Constantine. I came on, did one episode last year. 373 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: Then John John Aniston sadly died and they decided to 374 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 3: bring my character back and make him a real thing 375 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: and an experience. And it's probably coming to an end soon. 376 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: It's a lot of work and a lot of page 377 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pages per day. 378 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm glad you're you know, you know 379 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: it's I never condescended the work. It's a soap, right, 380 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: so it's got it's its own meat him. But man, 381 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: oh man, it has been challenging, and a lot of 382 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: the actors on the show are quick to tell me. 383 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 3: You know, there are a lot of actors that have 384 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: come in here and just run kicking and screaming and 385 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: can't do it. So I'm just happy that I can 386 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: do it. 387 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: All right, So we're going to do something called rapid fire. 388 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 3: You ready, I'm here? 389 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Does it doesn't mean you have to answer these questions 390 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: quickly that we just call it rapid fire. Don't ask 391 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: me why you can tell your time? How do you 392 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: like your coffee? 393 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 3: It's a bit strong, but I kind of like it. 394 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Are you team Logan, Team Jess or team Dean? If 395 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: you know what that means? 396 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: Logan Paul. 397 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: Logan on the show? 398 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: Because I had kids that liked Logan Paul many years 399 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 3: ago and I found it, I would say team Logan. 400 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, who's your favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and 401 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: Laureli are Emily and Richard, Luke and Laura? Would you 402 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: rather work with Michelle or Kirk? 403 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: Well, Michelle, what. 404 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: Would you order at Luke's Diner? 405 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 3: Uh? Now, this is the one where I'm like you know, 406 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: I grew up in Greek restaurants. Good choice. 407 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: Would you rather hang out with Paris or Lane Lane, 408 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: Harvard or Yale? Or drop out and live in a poolhouse? 409 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm my brother went to Harvard and Yale? 410 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, nor what was it? What is it? Or 411 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: drop out and live in a poolhouse? 412 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: Right, because that's what Rory did? 413 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, No, No, I don't I want to. I 414 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: don't approve it. I dropped out once many years and 415 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: as an adult. Now now, okay, I have to. 416 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: Read, so Harvard gets the nod? 417 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: Okay? 418 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: Would you rather attend daar event with Emily or a 419 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: town meeting with Taylor? 420 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I'd rather go to a dar event. I'd want 421 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: to check that out. Okay, that would be all right. 422 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: I'd have to be muzzled. I agree. I agree. 423 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: I've been in those town hall meetings. They're hot, sweaty 424 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: places that take all data. 425 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: Shoot. 426 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls characters, gill More Girl characters that you would 427 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: want as a roommate. 428 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: Do I really have to choose? You do? 429 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: John? Yes? You too? 430 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: You must of all of them? 431 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Just one, just one, Laura, okay, something in your life 432 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: you are all in on what something in your life 433 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: you are all in on? Parkins back to the scene 434 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: where Luke says he's all in with Laurel I with 435 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: the relationship. I'm in. I'm all in, hence the name 436 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: of the podcast. 437 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: So what are you all in? 438 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: It sounds like if you want to live with Laurel I, 439 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: then you're all in on Laurel I too, and we 440 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: have a common goal. 441 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm all in on that. But yeah, 442 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: let's leave it at that, because that's that's that's just 443 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: straining my Okay, it's what time is. It's ten o'clock 444 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 3: in the morning here, Okay, I'm gonnagund. 445 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: And what am I doing to you so early? That's funny, John, 446 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for your time. 447 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 6: Bye, dot. 448 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 4: Hey, everybody to forget. 449 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am All In Podcast 450 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.