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Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Kaylie Short and you're listening to

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Speaker 1: too much to say have questions it out you? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I promised this last week. This is my episode

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Speaker 1: on Midnight's by Taylor Swift. Um, we're going to be

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Speaker 1: talking about the three Am edition because I have to

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Speaker 1: comment on those songs too. Also there's some of my favorites,

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Speaker 1: so that is the version we will be talking about today. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm I love this so much. Um, I just like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, all of y'all know I'm a huge Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift fan. Like, but this is a really really cool

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Speaker 1: album and it definitely feels like a huge step for her.

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Speaker 1: Although I will say, um, and this isn't a criticism,

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Speaker 1: but this is like my critical observation, but there's not

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Speaker 1: really that much different sonically than stuff that she's done before.

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Speaker 1: But it does feel like an album full of like

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Speaker 1: the best electropop moments that Taylor Swift has had in

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Speaker 1: her career. So she's not reinventing the wheels sonically, but

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Speaker 1: these are a turn and lyrics for her. I feel

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Speaker 1: like she took the best parts of her writing on

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Speaker 1: Folklore and made them very personal because Folklore was a

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Speaker 1: lot of characters, and you know, I'm sure there are

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Speaker 1: things pulled from her real life. I mean there's ones

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Speaker 1: that are obvious, but this is special because it really

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Speaker 1: feels honest to her and obviously, like we all want

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Speaker 1: to peek behind the curtain and know what's going on

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Speaker 1: in Taylor's life, and her songs are the best way

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Speaker 1: to do that because she's a rather private person, which

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Speaker 1: I respect. But it's nice to be letting, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's nice to be letting. So I'm going to start

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Speaker 1: with my top five, which is hard to narrow down. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is okay. I'll do my top five including three

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Speaker 1: M edition, and then I'll do my top five with

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Speaker 1: out it so um, including the three AM edition, so total,

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Speaker 1: You're on your Own Kid number one, number two, Anti Hero,

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Speaker 1: number three, Bejeweled, number four, The Great War, number five,

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Speaker 1: could have, should have, would have. So without three AM songs,

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Speaker 1: it's You're on your Own Kid, Anti Hero, Bejeweled, Midnight Rain,

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Speaker 1: and Karma. So I love them. I think they're so

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Speaker 1: strong lyrically. The reason I picked Your on your Own

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Speaker 1: Kid as the first song is because well, I relate

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Speaker 1: to it. It's written about Nashville and her like you know,

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Speaker 1: moving there and having these dreams and being in the

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Speaker 1: music industry and whatever. Like the sing my songs in

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Speaker 1: a parking lot. I have sang my songs in many

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Speaker 1: parking ones. Um. It was just a very specific line

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Speaker 1: that I really related to. And I love the turn

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Speaker 1: at the end because it's like, I'm I need to

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Speaker 1: hear that sometimes that like I have myself, like just

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Speaker 1: because I'm alone doesn't mean that it's a bad thing. Um.

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Speaker 1: But I also am happy to see her come to

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Speaker 1: that conclusion as like someone who is way too personally

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Speaker 1: invested in Taylor soss mental health for someone who doesn't

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Speaker 1: know her. Um, I just love it. Anti Hero is

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Speaker 1: so honest. And she said this when she was like

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Speaker 1: doing the teasers. But she was like, this is some

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Speaker 1: of the most like vulnerable, honest writing I've done before.

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Speaker 1: And I was, you know, whenever an artist says that

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Speaker 1: myself included, sometimes it's like okay, and then you listen

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Speaker 1: to the song and it's like a song, you know,

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Speaker 1: But this one really really was what she said it was,

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Speaker 1: which is like definitely a she pulled the curtain back

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Speaker 1: a lot more than she normally does. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: love it. I love the honesty. I relate to it. Um,

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Speaker 1: the It's Me high, I'm the problem. It's Me is

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Speaker 1: so hilarious. And I love all the TikTok's I've seen. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Taylor Swift ever would write a song

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Speaker 1: was genius. Um. But Jeweled is like, I love it

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Speaker 1: because it's like you're in a relationship. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: whether you are truly or not. Um. I have many

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Speaker 1: perceived slides that might not be slights, but it's nice

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Speaker 1: to remember that, like, you know, like I still got it,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't need to go cheat on you to

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Speaker 1: have taken the shortcut there, but um, it's just nice

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Speaker 1: I just really want them, um, And I think that

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Speaker 1: get really mad when I would say that, because he'd

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Speaker 1: And I love that Dita Vonte's was in the music video.

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Speaker 1: whole aesthetic is so cool. Um The Great War. I

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Speaker 1: love this one because, uh, my boyfriend Sam and I

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Speaker 1: like hard, like we were both growing and felt feeling

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Speaker 1: growing pains, not even necessarily within the relationship, but like

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Speaker 1: with ourselves in the way that we interacted with the

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Speaker 1: world and the way that our values are kind of different.

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Speaker 1: We grew up really different, and so I am a

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Speaker 1: you know, wartime child, and he is a sun sunshine child,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes he has to tell me that the world

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Speaker 1: isn't all bad. Sometimes I have to remind him that

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Speaker 1: the world isn't all good. And it took us a

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Speaker 1: But UM, I love this song because it's like, that's

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Speaker 1: Sam and just like what we've been through, and it

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Speaker 1: just was a really really beautiful love song because it's real.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, but like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to write love songs that are just one dimensional. I

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Speaker 1: think that love deserves more than that. And we write

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Speaker 1: about multifaceted love when we're talking about it ending, So

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Speaker 1: why don't we talk about multifaceted love when it's happening.

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Speaker 1: So this is just like a beautiful song, and I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of people who've are in long term

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Speaker 1: have would have um give me back my girlhood it

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Speaker 1: was mine first, like broke me. Um. This one is

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Speaker 1: reminding me a lot of like the topics that people

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Speaker 1: have been talking about recently, like twenty nine by Demovatto.

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Speaker 1: I fucking love that song. I'm still obsessed with the album.

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Speaker 1: I went and saw them play with them my bestter

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Speaker 1: it was amazing. Um, But like that song was such

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Speaker 1: an emotional moment for people, and I know that this one,

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Speaker 1: if Taylor plays it on the Era's tour, will be

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Speaker 1: a really emotional moment because it's something we don't talk about, Like,

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Speaker 1: have my song eighteen, which I wrote about something similar,

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Speaker 1: but it's like the like someone doesn't have to be

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Speaker 1: a pedophile to take advantage of your age. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't think he would ever be attracted to a child

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Speaker 1: that's like his thing. I do think that he like

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Speaker 1: like come on, you know. And so this song was

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Speaker 1: just like I mean, it's so it's so sad because

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Speaker 1: writing the song about. But it's been a long time

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Speaker 1: which highly recommend if you're ever trying to get out

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Speaker 1: success prefably um. And then Midnight Rain, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: was I ever freaking kidding. We're gonna take a break

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Speaker 1: and then we'll be right back with more. I'm Kaylie

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Speaker 1: short And this is was to say, so an observation

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Speaker 1: head that Taylor Swift was that morning person, Like she

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Speaker 1: I mean, like everything is like screaming and crying, kissing

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Speaker 1: in the rain, too am, cursing your name and um,

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Speaker 1: interesting to me is like, because if Taylor Swift an insomniac,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Stiff probably sleeps in and I just can't picture that.

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Speaker 1: And I know I probably not a little crazy right now,

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Speaker 1: but this was like my big takeaway. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Taylor Swift is not a morning person.

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Speaker 1: Like she's giving morning person energy for sure, but she's not. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited about the tour to um, I have

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Speaker 1: She just added another Nashville Day, which is great in

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