1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: It's that time. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Time, time, luck and load. 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: The Michael Verie Show is on the air. 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: When I started the show by saying, I'm just about 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: to undertake a task that I'm not capable of accomplishing. 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: If you've listened for the entirety of the last hour, 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: or worse, some portion of it, you may say, is 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: he defending Trump? No, I'm not defending Trump, nor I'm 9 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: not nor am I condemning Trump. I'm making the point 10 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: that what Donald Trump feels about the death of Rob 11 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: Reiner is not important, and anyone who thinks it is 12 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: is trying to create content that will get more listeners, 13 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: more viewers, more readers, so they can sell their ad 14 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: space for more money, because that's what they're doing. 15 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Everybody is out here. 16 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: Like the little Hondura and Guatemalan guys on the Las 17 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: Vegas trip, who are constantly popping that little piece of 18 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: paper and trying to hand it to you the minute 19 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: you glance. First drink free at our strip club, next one, 20 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: I got two first drink free. They don't speak English. 21 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: They is handed the card and if you take that 22 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: card in there, he gets a buck or something from 23 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: the owner of the club because they got you in there, 24 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: and everybody's trying to get your attention. And then you 25 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: got the neon. Look over here, we got two for 26 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: one drinks for free, stay the night for free high rowers. 27 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Then you got billboards. 28 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: Then he got cars with billboards, you got people dressed 29 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: up with billboards. Everybody's trying to get your attention. Nobody 30 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: gets your attention with a measured statement of wisdom. They 31 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: get your attention. The crazier they get, more radical, they 32 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: get more nutty, they get more controversial, they get what 33 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: does it matter what Donald Trump feels about Rob Reiner's death? 34 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: Does it change anything? Do you think Rob Reiner is offended? 35 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: Do you think anyone around Rob Reiner is saying, oh, 36 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: my goodness, Daddy loved Donald Trump and now Donald Trump 37 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: has turned on him. Do you think they're saying, why 38 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: would Donald Trump speak ill of our father, who spent 39 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: his entire life trying to destroy Donald Trump and calling 40 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: him the worst possible names. Please show Daddy some mercy 41 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: upon his death. Please for the decency of our daddy, 42 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: the man who said the most vile things ever Rob Reiner. 43 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone is clutching their pearls over the 44 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: good name and legacy of Rob Reiner. Is it unfortunate 45 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: that his son gutted him and his wife? Sure, it's unfortunate. 46 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: Is it any more unfortunate than the family are than 47 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: the people who are murdered by illegal aliens every day, 48 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: who nobody seems to create an outpouring of condolences for them. 49 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: Is Rob Reiner's death more important because he made movies 50 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: that you liked? Is Rob Riiner's death more important because 51 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 3: there are other people whose kids murder them? 52 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Happens every day. 53 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: There are people who illegal aliens kill them. Are Muslim 54 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: terrorists or transgender terrorists? Anybody feel bad for them? Anybody 55 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: rushed to see what Trump's statement was on them? Did 56 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: you issue a statement? 57 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Why not? 58 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: Why don't you care? They've lost their child, their mother, 59 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: their father? What about every service member? What about those 60 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: just killed in Syria? Do you know their names? Did 61 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: you rush to see what Donald Trump said about their deaths? 62 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: Did you issue a statement about their deaths? Did the Democrats? 63 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: Did the National Review? 64 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Oh? No? 65 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: You see, because celebrity is sacred in this country, you 66 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: don't touch the inner sanctum of the chosen tribe. The 67 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: famous people see de Niro can say anything he wants 68 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: of Trump. He can fantasize about murdering him. Alec Baldwin 69 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: can call his twelve year old daughter a thoughtless little pig, 70 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: and that's okay. He can still host Saturday Night Live 71 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: this Saturday, because he is royalty. These people can do 72 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: unspeakable things, horrible things, but they are our celebrities, and 73 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: we the serfs, know our place. We know that deep 74 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: down there better than us, and that when they die, 75 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: Oh my. 76 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: God, that's horrible. His son killed the two of them. 77 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: I feel horrible. Why you don't feel horrible? Didn't know 78 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: the man? 79 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: That's terrible? Well did you know him? Well? 80 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: No, but that's a terrible thing that happened. All right, 81 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: give me a minute. I'm going to tell you about 82 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: a terrible thing that happened in Iowa, very similar circumstance. 83 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: Heroin addicted kid killed his grandmother who he was living with, 84 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: left her for dead. They found her a week later. 85 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: The maggots were eating her body. Oh I didn't hear 86 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: about that. Yeah, And you don't give a damn either. 87 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: Do you? Because she's not famous. 88 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is under no obligation to say something polite 89 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: about Rob Rainer and you're welcome, and so we're all 90 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 3: the other celebrities to clutch your pearls. Because Donald Trump 91 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: should be Donald Trump only when he's being Donald Trump. 92 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: But in other days, we need him to be prim 93 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: and proper. We need him to be a member of 94 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: the Bush family or maybe a Romney. We need him 95 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: to not be that guy. You know, this is where 96 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: we struggle. We wanted Lawrence Taylor to be Lawrence Taylor 97 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: every Sunday, but we weren't ready for Lawrence Taylor on Monday. 98 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: We weren't ready for Mike Webster suffering till he died. 99 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: We just wanted him to snap the ball and smash 100 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: somebody so that there was an opening for Franco or 101 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: Terry Bradshaw. We want our warriors, the Morgan Latrelle's, the 102 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: Chris Kyles. We want them to be our warrior at 103 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: the parade. We want Patton to be patent as played 104 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: by George C. Scott, but we don't want him to 105 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: slap a soldier on the face. We want him to 106 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: be absolutely beyond control, his own man, do what he 107 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: wants crazy until he does. We want everybody to be compartmentalized. 108 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: We want him to play a part, play a role, 109 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: and the rest of the time we want them to 110 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: be like us, prim proper, sleeping soundly in our beds. 111 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: This is. 112 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what's the name, we say, Michael Gouddy. 113 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: Competition is a good thing. It is good to be 114 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: reminded that we don't have kings. No literally, forget some 115 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: left wing protest. We've had governors serve a long time 116 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: in the state of Texas. Starting in nineteen ninety four. 117 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 3: You had George W. Bush who served until he ran 118 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: for and was elected president. You had Rick Perry, who 119 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: served a long period of time, and since then we've 120 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: had Greg Abbott. It's very hard to dislodge a sitting 121 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: Texas governor, especially one like Abbot, who spends all his 122 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: time raising money and never actually taking a position, which 123 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: leaves people who actually care about policy very angry. But 124 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: we all know that's the slim minority. Low information voters 125 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: go by a sentence of how someone is doing, and 126 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 3: as long as they're not embroiled in any controversy, they 127 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: just kind of keep plugging along. 128 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: But we deserve better. 129 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: I'd say Ron DeSantis is a much better governor than 130 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: Greg Abbott. I think a lot of folks and it 131 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: would be a series of movement A successionists, a constitutionalists, 132 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: a Tea Party folks and people that want a secure 133 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: border and people that want better policy would say in 134 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: Texas they're disappointed in Greg Abbott, I hear that daily. 135 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: A number of folks have asked me to interview doctor 136 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: Pete Chambers, known as Doc, retired US Army Lieutenant colonel, 137 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: Special Forces green beret and a physician. They have described 138 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 3: him as a defender of freedom, as more in touch 139 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: with the values of folks who believe in the concepts 140 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 3: of freedom and the Tea Party. I've had a number 141 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: of listeners ask that we talk to Doc Chambers, and 142 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: now we will. 143 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: Doc Chambers, welcome to the program. It's good to be 144 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: or Michael is Doc. How most people that know you 145 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: and like you refer to you. 146 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: That's a term of endearment you get on the battlefield, 147 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: and it kind of stuck. So it's been with me 148 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: for a while. 149 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: And what about people who don't like you? What do 150 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: they call you? 151 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: That's late for dinner? 152 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: All right, So let's start with let's introduce you to 153 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: our audience and just to a great extent in me. 154 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: I know what materials our team pulled together. 155 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 3: But let's start with where you were born, the time 156 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: of day, the hospital, your childhood, the thorough bio of 157 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: who Doc Chambers it is. 158 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: Well. Luckily for those listening, we actually posted everything on 159 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: the website so we would dispel all the uh, you know, 160 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: why weren't you born in Texas rumors? I was born 161 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: in Missouri, Kirksville. My dad was a doctor and he 162 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: was in med school and I actually never set foot 163 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 2: in the state walking, but so shortly after he did 164 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: residency and I ended up my home wrecords Oklahoma, so 165 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: just across the Red River. But I've been in Texas 166 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety seven. 167 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Sarah Fryer was born in As, she says, Missouri. 168 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: Did y'all know each other? 169 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: No? 170 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know who everybody knew each other? 171 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: No, I didn't meet anybody there except for my mom 172 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: and dad. 173 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: All right, So then, so then how did you end 174 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: up in Texas? 175 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: Right? Well, I came down to Texas to do residency. 176 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: After my medical school. I went to you know US 177 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: in New England and graduated in ninety five, finished an 178 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: internship in ninety seven, and then ninety seven I came 179 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: to Beaumont, went to Port Arthur, worked in a couple 180 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: of hospitals, three hostels down there. University of North Texas 181 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: has a program down there that primary care, and my 182 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: intent was to go back in the military to be 183 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: a primary care doc in the army. I already had 184 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: served once before in nineteen eighty three to nineteen ninety 185 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: as an infantry guy, you know, nothing special, just to nameless, 186 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: a guy that learned how to dig holes and terry 187 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: a ruckstack. But after that, nine to eleven happened, and 188 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: then I went back on active duty, and that thought 189 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: we'd go down range and we would get it done 190 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: pretty quick. I can come back and set up a 191 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: family practice or a house call business. Unfortunately, we just 192 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: spent the last twenty years going back and forth to 193 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 2: the sandbox. So I changed my life. 194 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: Talk about that. 195 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty profound experience. And it sounds 196 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: like we share a lot of the same views as 197 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: to the lengths of time our nation spent there, particularly 198 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: guys like you. 199 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: How did that change you? 200 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it changed a lot, you know, being a guy 201 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: that I came in under Ronald Reagan. You know, it 202 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: was my first president. I served utter and completely, you know, 203 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: focused on you know, red, white, blue America, Mom, mom, dad, 204 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: apple Pie, and that is that is rightly solids patriot. 205 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: My dad was a patriot World War two guy. But 206 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: but something happened along the way where I realized, we're 207 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: not here fighting a war to defend our soil. We're 208 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: over here doing somebody else's bidding. And as a soldier, 209 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: it's not my business to change policy. I can't. I 210 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: follow orders. And then I loved my troops, and so 211 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: I stayed on the extended past my you know, I 212 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 2: could have retired at twenty years, but I went and stayed, 213 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: and then twenty fifteen my last deployment, twenty fourteen, probably 214 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: my worst one down range. Just you kind of lose 215 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: your edge after a while. And war is infanity, that's tangible. 216 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: That's the way I tell people. And it's an ugly business. 217 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: And it's just unless it's on our shores and it's 218 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: a declared war, which it was not a declared war. 219 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: Our sons and daughters don't need to be an harms 220 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: way for those for those types of actions for that 221 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: period of time without somebody in Washington, DC, or even 222 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: in the governors that allow their National Guard units to 223 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: be deployed in a non declared war. Somebody needs to 224 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: stand up, you know, on the other side of it 225 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: and say, hey, wait a minute, what are we really 226 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: doing here? Because we saw the Demaco what happened when 227 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: we left there and left all that equipment, And of 228 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: course to me, it's not about the equipment, but that 229 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: was just the knights in the back, if you will. 230 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: So I'm not disgruntled. I have a son going in 231 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: the military. I'm just I find a hard time, I 232 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: find a hard reason to say was it worth it? 233 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: But I believe it was worth it for us that 234 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: were on the ground because we truly learned what the 235 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: virtues of honored pristige and the spread of corps really mean, 236 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: and what patriotism really means because they fight for each 237 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: other and definitely for those back home. But we weren't 238 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: looking at somebody trying to la launch you know, boats 239 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: onto the shores of the US proper. 240 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: So it's a hard money for just a moment hard 241 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: Doctor Chambers is running for governor against Greg Abbott. He's 242 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: our guest, He'll just go ahead and say it sorry. 243 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. 244 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: Doctor beat Chambers, known as Doc Chambers those who know him, 245 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: retired US Army Lieutenant colonel's Special Forces green beret and 246 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: a physician. 247 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: He's running for governor. He is our guest. 248 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: Doc. 249 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: Let's first start with we talked a little bit about 250 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: your bio, and we'll get back to that. But in 251 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: order to run for an office where the incumbent is 252 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: running again, you have to believe you'll do a better 253 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: job than them. 254 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: What is Greg Abbott not doing that you would do better? 255 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Well, he's not producing anything that he says 256 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: he's going to do over the last eleven years. And 257 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: for the citizens out there that really don't pay attention 258 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: to security on the border, we'll get to that. He's 259 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: promised them, you know, decreasing taxes. Now, you know, the 260 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: tax code is written in a very byzantine labyrinth code. 261 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: I've gone through with teams now Texans that care, and 262 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: they're out here talking to me in different different avenues 263 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: to different angles of it. And really, even though he 264 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: can claimed that it's you know, it's not from the 265 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: state level, it's the local level. The conditions that he 266 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: sets at the state level, do allow for the second 267 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: and don't order effects of what's happened over eleven years, 268 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: which has increased taxes. So you know, that's that's straight 269 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: up for me. That's that's a part of security. It's 270 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: a fiscal security. But what I saw, what I learned 271 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: during the COVID mission when we when I was sent 272 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: to the Governor's Task Force to be the liaison, watching 273 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: the amount of money wasted in the and the really 274 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: for for something that's just the common cold with a 275 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: with a you know, gain of function added to it. 276 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: It was it became a bio weapon. But uh, you know, 277 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: really the way that the state handled it was very poor. 278 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of freedoms were taken away. Uh, 279 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: and it just and we followed, you know. Of course 280 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: the Governor I trusted him at the time I worked 281 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: in the in the task force. But then the things 282 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: that I learned afterwards and then watching it unfold, especially 283 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: when I served on Operational Loan Star, when the mandates 284 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: came and our sons and daughters of Texas were forced 285 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: to take the shots. Uh, I stood in the gap 286 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: and said no, and they finally Sentate General down there 287 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: played this game of rock paper rank with me, and 288 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 2: uh he won. I was a lieutenant colonel, but he 289 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: lost ultimately because he said you're not giving enough people shots. 290 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: And I said, I'm doing in form consensor and we 291 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: helped line and then I testified to in a D 292 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: O D case on it. We got the shop mandates dropped. 293 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 2: But it took you know, losing a career over it, 294 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: essentially paying benefits for me as a lieutenant colonel on 295 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: the border. You know, that was That's a fight worth having. 296 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: So I know these things. I've seen what's coming across 297 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: the border. I know we're sitting in the throes of 298 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: a color revolution in this country, which is insidious. People 299 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 2: don't see it, most people, like you said, uninformed voters. 300 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: But those of us that understand it. And when I 301 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: would put my study on this thing, talking to General Flynn, 302 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: Coral West other people and said should I run, they said, 303 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: you should absolutely run. We need somebody in it that 304 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: will will at least force the function up until the 305 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: time of the primary, take the primary, and then fix 306 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 2: the problem set. So that's that's the difference. 307 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: It is very unhealthy for sitting politicians not to be challenged. 308 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: You know, the reigning Super Bowl champion or World Series 309 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: champion does not begin the next season without having scrimmages, 310 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: without having competition, without challenging yourself, iron sharpens iron. I 311 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: think it is very healthy. And I think Greg Abbott, 312 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: of all people, has grown extraordinarily arrogant and out of touch. 313 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 3: And I think that your message is one that will resonate. 314 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: The challenge becomes interviews like this help, but the challenge 315 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: becomes that Abbott sitting on a stockpile of cash that 316 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: of course he will spend to tell people that he's 317 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: done what he hasn't and hasn't done what he has. 318 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 3: But your challenge, I suppose, is just getting out and 319 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: talking to enough voters. And from what I hear, you 320 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: are hitting the hustings pretty hard. 321 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: Who we are, Yeah, voice is a little rough, fifteen 322 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: days in a row, this is my first day off, 323 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: so but we're going to continue it again. This is 324 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: like a deployment downrange that nobody's shooting at us with bullets. 325 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: It's more verbal. You know. You get the pun ins 326 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: that don't like it, and I get it. I'm willing 327 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: to take the shots, but we've got to push it. 328 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: Like I said, all the way to the primary day. 329 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: I keep pushing and forcing the function of because we 330 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: are seeing some knee jerk reactions and that's good, that's 331 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: that's bringing it to light. And you know, we need 332 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: one point five million votes in an off cycle primary 333 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: to win. So we'll bring him under Arthur Mopoly battlefold 334 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens. 335 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: What do you hear the most of when you're out on. 336 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: The trail, What are people most frustrated about, most seeking, 337 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: most looking. 338 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: For most of them and many of them are like me, 339 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: I second go around for Abbott. I trusted him. But 340 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: they're just saying, but why why is he doing this? 341 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: They want me to answer why has he not done 342 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: what he said he's going to do? And I can't 343 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: defend him. I can only say, well that there's a 344 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: lot of reasons why politicians don't do things, and a 345 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: lot of reasons why they promise. But I would have 346 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: to be speculating to otherwise do that. But that is 347 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 2: the biggest thing is they're heartbroken. Many that loved him 348 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: are heartbroken, and some of them are mad at him. 349 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: And I straight up to see that in the cinemon analysis, 350 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: he's sitting at a one ut pull at thirty favorability 351 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: rating around thirty two. You know, that tells me that 352 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: people that do look into these things, and more and 353 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: more are that do this to their homework are waking 354 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: up to just like the COVID thing, remember that, right, 355 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: So it's the country winner the Stockholm syndrome. For a while, 356 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: they fell in love with their captors as they gave 357 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: them their freedoms back. In order to win us to 358 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: come out of a scenario Stockholm syndrome, you've got to 359 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: have little victories. And this could be a little victory. 360 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: It may not be. You know, I'm not going to 361 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: talk negative. I'm going to talk about winning a race. 362 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: But up until the time of the primary, we are 363 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 2: forcing the little victories, and those each and every day 364 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: when I see people that jump on our task forces, 365 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: are our commissions and help us, I see the three 366 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: in their eyes because they feel like they're doing something 367 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: and they're forcing the function. 368 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: I operate under the theory that the people should not 369 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 3: fear the politicians and politicians should fear the people. And 370 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: when politicians feel that they have an unchecked power, either 371 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 3: to do nothing or to go too far, and Abbott 372 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 3: has done both. I think it's healthy for people to 373 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: have an outlet for that rage and an opportunity to 374 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 3: fix it. So I don't know that you can win 375 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: or lose. I don't know that anybody can. I do 376 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: think it is a very very valiant effort you are undertaking, 377 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 3: and I think it's important that you do it. 378 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you. 379 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: You say on your website, which is Docpete Chambers dot org, 380 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: or you can just google his name, it says Texas 381 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: First always, he'll secure our border. 382 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: Talk about that, yes, sir, So the border. There's an 383 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: optic versus reality that took place on the border. It 384 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: seemed like I know, I know through different sources that 385 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: I dealt with directly, that the problem sometimes get pushed 386 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: to the right. Never you know, you've heard this before. 387 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: Never let a good crisis go to waste. So a 388 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: lot of money comes in from the federal government, it 389 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: gets pushed to the right on the timeline and things 390 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: slow down. Trump came in. He put a turnket on 391 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: the border. The flow is decreased. That's a good thing. 392 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: But we still got a thousand tiny cuts. So we're 393 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: dealing with those. And so I when I know what 394 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: I know, the amount of an enemy combatants that are 395 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 2: straight up in this country. We have to secure that. 396 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: We have to do more than just strongly worded letters 397 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: and making a declaration of foreign terrorist organization without actually putting, 398 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, teeth into it. So there has to be 399 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: teeth into it. Because I'm looking at Colony Ridge and 400 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: throw over it the other day and again to get 401 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: a follow up on that in Ayras County, I'm sorry, 402 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: in Liberty County, and that place has you know, grown 403 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty thousand people on the estimate. 404 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: We'll get the numbers as we do our homework. Here. 405 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: You've got sharia law in Dallas. It wasn't here, you 406 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: know when I came back to Texas. So we have 407 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: to get really some teeth in this thing if we're 408 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: serious about securing the border. And there are other ideas 409 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: that are very you know, technique's tactics and practices I 410 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't talk about, but I would not be an optic 411 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: I assure you of that, and I would give the 412 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: authorities as do by the Article four, Section seven Texas 413 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 2: Constitution says the governor can to during the state. 414 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: Doc hold on just a moment. 415 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: Pete Chabers is a physician, known as Doc to those 416 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: who love him. Retired US Army Lieutenant colonel candidate for 417 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: governor of the Great State of Texas. He's our guest 418 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: coming up. Texas is a big state. It's hard to 419 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 3: run statewide. You've got to have a lot of money 420 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: and a lot of energy. You've got big media markets Houston, Dallas, 421 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: West Texas, Austin, San Anton, South Texas, East Texas. The 422 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 3: Houston market alone is bigger than some states. When you're 423 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: running statewide in Idaho or Vermont, it's easier than running 424 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 3: just in Houston alone. Add to that all the other markets. 425 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 3: I didn't even mention the Panhandle. It's tough, and when 426 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: you've got a sitting governor who's sitting on a pile 427 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 3: of cash, it's an uphill battle. 428 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: But these battles have to be fought for the sake 429 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: of our state. 430 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: Doc Peters, Doc Peters Dock Chambers Pete Doc Chambers, because he's. 431 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: A doctor, is our guest. 432 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: On your website it says Texas first and always defend 433 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 3: parental rights. 434 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? 435 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 2: All right? Well, this this is ah this is one 436 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 2: of the things I noticed, especially with referendums that come 437 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: out and propositions that uh basically are asking the government 438 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: to give us permission to have the right to raise 439 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: our children. And it's really the way. The devil is 440 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: always in the details, right, And when you look at 441 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: the not just a little blurb that they give you 442 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: when you go across the boat. Uh, you know that 443 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: sounds really good, But when you look at the details, 444 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: and the devil's in the details. Because of course I 445 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: think sometimes the devil lives in Austin. But what I 446 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: what I see is, uh, we've got to hold the 447 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: line there. This is these are enumerated rights inherent in 448 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: the people, as the as the article WM section two says, 449 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: and it takes us and it is. It is not 450 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: endowed by uh, you know, the governor. It's endowed by 451 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: the creator. And so that is I hold the line 452 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: firmly on that. I believe that people have uh you know, 453 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: we don't. We don't need to, like I said, Genuflex 454 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: to receive those rights. 455 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: You talk about parental rights, you talk about medical rights 456 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: and a reference to that, and as a physician, I 457 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: get to sense that that you share. I don't want 458 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: to put words in your mouth. But my views and 459 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: maybe those of Mary Tally Boden. 460 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 461 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: You you worked through as a professional the COVID era, 462 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: where I think a lot of people lost trust and 463 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: faith and respect for what we're called the experts. 464 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that. 465 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: Sure is. There were four whistleblowers in the whole of 466 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: the Department of Defense, and I was one of them. 467 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: At Ron Johnson uh gave us whistleblower protection. I'll put 468 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: him put quotes around that word protection. There's still lots 469 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: of subversive things happen. But I've testified in a case, 470 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: a federal case Fields versus bod to guard those freedoms 471 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: that they have for medical freedom regarding fate. They didn't 472 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: want to take it because of what was in the shots. 473 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: But it goes further than that. It is not only 474 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 2: by regulation, but it is it is just the hippocratic 475 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 2: oath and everything that is. You know that we've learned 476 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: about that we do do no harm. First of all, 477 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: for this do no harm we cannot, we cannot take 478 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: that choice away from the patient. But we also must 479 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: Any intervention must come with an informed consent, which means 480 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: the good and the bad and the ugly of that 481 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: so when I studied it, and look, I'm just the 482 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: guy that stops bleeding on the battlefield. I'm really good 483 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: at it. I'm a flight surgeon for the Green Rice, 484 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: been deployed in combat several times, so I will say 485 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: I'm very good at that. But I'm not an immynologist 486 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: and no orbroologist, but I can learn really quickly. And 487 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: when I got down to their border and I'm taking 488 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: care of these soldiers, men and women of Texas, and 489 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: they are falling out because they took shots already. And 490 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: then you know, first case, twenty seven year old Miro 491 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: card Ice, second case stroke God took two years to 492 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: get rehab his voice. I had to stand in the 493 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: gap and say, no, moss right, no more. So I 494 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 2: went to my chain of command, went to the task 495 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: for a commander, went to the governor's office, went to 496 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: the State Adjutant General's office, and it was crickets. You know, 497 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: there was a congressman that you were talking about from 498 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: Houston earlier, where's a patch. I went to his office, 499 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: same thing, crickets. So it took us out of state, 500 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: the Senator to come to Texas's aid with all dispatch 501 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: in the words of William Barrett and say, hey, testify 502 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: on this, and we're you know, we're going to go 503 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: after this. And we did and we won. And now 504 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: the Secretary Offense says it's on law order. Now, Mary 505 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: tally Boning, you talk about great friend, I'm gonna put 506 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: her in charge. You know, we make it through this, 507 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: She'll be in charge of the Texas Medical Board and 508 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: there will maybe nobody on the board. It gives exorbitant 509 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: campaign donations to this governor because that's the fact that 510 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: every one of them that sits there right now. So 511 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: perhaps even demolishing, because I'm a centralizing kind of guy, 512 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: demolishing the Texas Medical Board at a great actions. 513 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: I think there are. I think that their dealings with 514 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: regard to her reveal a number of things, the problems 515 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: with that board and also her sense of keihotic willingness 516 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: to fight against no matter what the stakes. You know, 517 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: she could have easily tucked tail and walked off and 518 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 3: left that alone. They picked the wrong fight in her. 519 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: That is a tough, tough lady. I just checked while 520 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: you were talking to make sure there were six Missourians 521 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: at the Alamo. 522 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: In cases you were wondering you probably already knew that. 523 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: So where do we go from here? We will talk 524 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: again before the election. I wanted people to have an 525 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: opportunity to get to know a little bit about you. 526 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I've got about two minutes left. 527 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure you have what we call the elevator speech 528 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: to donors and to rallies. Why don't you take that 529 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: time and I'll just cut you off and we get 530 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: the break and we'll talk again before the election. 531 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Sure, it's great talking to you. So you know, 532 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: Bob Hall taught me that's a senator in Texas. She 533 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: taught me that think of the horse you nail, your 534 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: vote counts. We need every vote in this off cycle election. 535 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: So just think of a horse you nail. For a 536 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: one of a nail, a hoof was lost, a shoe 537 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: was lost. The loss of a shoe, a horse was lost. 538 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: The loss of a horse or rider than a battle, 539 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: then a war was lost Texas. I need every one 540 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: of you just to get up, get to Doc Pete 541 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: Chambers dot org and get on the team and help 542 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: us out. We're taking volunteers every day to help write policy, 543 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: to help be on task forces. And again, thank you 544 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: Michael Berry for having me on and we'll talk against her. 545 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: Sounds good. Good luck out there. It's it's a big state. 546 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: But God bless you. 547 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: I've heard from a number of people who wanted to 548 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: hear from you and uh, and we'll make sure that 549 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: you are heard from again before this election. Keep up 550 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: the good work. Thank you for your service to this country. 551 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 3: We need good people to run for office, we really do. 552 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you it is a It's a tough 553 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: tough thing to do because people are going to criticize 554 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: your motivations. They're going to criticize whatever you're most proud of. 555 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: They're going to criticize your appearance. They're going to criticize 556 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: the way you wear your hair or the cut of 557 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: your jib or whatever else. And the establishment doesn't like change. 558 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: Once they get their guy that they know his entire 559 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: staff and they know that he owes them. Change is 560 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: anathema to the political process. They like stability, not great representation, 561 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: not effectiveness in government. Whatever your industry, whatever your lobbying practice, 562 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: you like the devil you know, there is what is 563 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: known as a friendly incumbent rule. Whereas most packs and 564 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: trade organizations they won't look at a challenger They want 565 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: the guy they know first of all, because let's take 566 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: a case like this, if you're running against the governor 567 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: and there's a trade association between now and March, they 568 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: may have something that appears before the governor and they 569 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: want the governor to be friendly about it. So of 570 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: course they're going to support the government. It is a 571 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: tough thing to do, to challenge politicians. It is disruptive, 572 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: but as we have seen in the tech space and 573 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: the oil and gas space, and the communication space, and 574 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 3: trans and transportation space and healthcare space, disruption, while. 575 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: It creates discontent and discomfort, it's thank you, I mean 576 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: midnight