Speaker 1: It's nine og one with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling.
Speaker 1: You guys. First of all, welcome to nine two one.
Speaker 1: Omg Amy's here, Torris here, Jenny here, We're all here.
Speaker 1: But I think this is one hundredth episode. Why No?
Speaker 1: I feel like it might prove it. And here's why,
Speaker 1: because I watched the episode and then right after the episode,
Speaker 1: my favorite character, Donna, came on screen with a dog
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, everybody, thanks for watching our hundredth episode.
Speaker 2: No, how did I miss that?
Speaker 1: It's one hundred episode, hundredth episode, y'all?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my gosh. So I watched that part,
Speaker 3: but I sus the credit like SU's the episode ends.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I'm out, okay, And then I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: there's me and the dog. So I look back, but
Speaker 3: I had not heard the first part of it, so
Speaker 3: I thought it was a public service announcement too animals.
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, that's nice. They did their
Speaker 3: due diligence. Okay, good, And I was like, and this
Speaker 3: is pound cake pound cake?
Speaker 1: First you called the dog pound cake, and then you
Speaker 1: call it rocky, and I got confused, But you didn't
Speaker 1: say it was one hundredth episode, So.
Speaker 4: Yay, wait, can you guys remember did you have a
Speaker 4: big party back then and a big cake, like.
Speaker 3: You know how, Yeah we did, and remember we like
Speaker 3: took the cake and we were like putting it on
Speaker 3: each other and yeah, yeah, there's some pictures.
Speaker 1: We'll find pictures. No way, look it up.
Speaker 2: Look up.
Speaker 1: One hundredth episode party, maybe you'll find something.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what, John, I'm thinking of the two
Speaker 3: hundredth episode, because.
Speaker 1: Well, we should have had one for every hundred.
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, that's insane that you even got
Speaker 2: to too.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, oh my gosh, but this is a
Speaker 1: This episode is a little weird because of the title.
Speaker 1: It's an episod. So twenty three A Pig Is a
Speaker 1: Boy Is a Dog? Aired March second, nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3: Synopsis Kelly and Brandon find out the truth about Lucinda.
Speaker 3: Dylan finds out the truth about Kelly and Brandon. Donna
Speaker 3: is devastated, Brenda is motivated, and Steve may have to
Speaker 3: buy a new nose.
Speaker 2: Haha.
Speaker 1: I like that. Synopsis Did you write that? Directed by
Speaker 1: Daniel Addia, Written by Richard No Directed by Daniel Addias,
Speaker 1: Written by Richard Golanz and Larry Mullin.
Speaker 4: Do you get the title? I mean, obviously I get
Speaker 4: it that there's a dog. Get the pig of it all?
Speaker 4: Was there a pig?
Speaker 1: I missed?
Speaker 2: No, And none of the boys are being that or
Speaker 2: as Lucinda the pig, That's what I think.
Speaker 1: A pig is, a boy is a dog.
Speaker 3: That's so deep, you, guys, pigs and boys can be dogs.
Speaker 3: I think it's all about boys written by two men,
Speaker 3: so okay.
Speaker 4: But the boys weren't being really pigs or dogs. I
Speaker 4: mean they were being something, but.
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what they were being honestly at
Speaker 1: the end of this episode.
Speaker 4: But first of all, when we get to talk about
Speaker 4: the fight, I can't wait for that.
Speaker 1: This is I don't know, aside from it being a
Speaker 1: one hundredth episode. I saw you running jogging. I saw
Speaker 1: you jogging with my own eyeballs.
Speaker 3: Okay, as my friend who has known me forever. Don't
Speaker 3: you feel a little uncomfortable when you see me running?
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, yeah, somebody help her quick.
Speaker 3: I can't run like I would always look weird running
Speaker 3: and then went on to do a TV movie where
Speaker 3: I was like on the track team. I was like, guys,
Speaker 3: this isn't this isn't kind of track.
Speaker 2: What was that.
Speaker 3: Like, mother may have sleep a danger? I was like,
Speaker 3: on the true, maybe.
Speaker 1: In your younger days you enjoyed a good workout.
Speaker 3: Jen, I can't run like just and my kids have
Speaker 3: the same runs. Met My kids go to run and
Speaker 3: they have the arms up and it's just like, oh god, no, Well, you.
Speaker 1: Look pretty natural and you're matching little Adidas sneakers there
Speaker 1: with your boyfriend, right.
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like this is the point in
Speaker 3: the program where Adidas was like, hey, we're going to
Speaker 3: give all this stuff to this huge show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were wearing Adidas shoes and he was
Speaker 1: wearing a Nike shirt. So we had some we had
Speaker 1: some duelings. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of on point nowadays because everyone
Speaker 3: blends designers. It's all about flashing the different logos. So
Speaker 3: you were in sync.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was fun to see. And
Speaker 1: I felt like, all of a sudden because you made
Speaker 1: me feel really bad last week's I didn't know you'd
Speaker 1: noticed your hair was shorter, but it felt like it
Speaker 1: was blonder.
Speaker 2: It was it.
Speaker 1: Was blonder. And then and then later in the episode
Speaker 1: it was darker again.
Speaker 4: It was very confusing hair. It's it's like her hair
Speaker 4: is changing and just no one talks about it.
Speaker 1: But maybe it looks blonder when it's pulled back and
Speaker 1: then it's darker when it's down, because that happens to
Speaker 1: me too, I thought it. But I agree with you.
Speaker 1: It was very caramel caramel, and you know what, I
Speaker 1: was there for it.
Speaker 2: I liked it, of course you were.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like, maybe we should go to Carmel.
Speaker 3: I felt so bad episode.
Speaker 1: One hundred and one of this podcast, You're gonna get
Speaker 1: gonna get a new hair color.
Speaker 4: I know. Someone just asked if this was one hundredth
Speaker 4: episode of the podcast. But we've done so many extras,
Speaker 4: but I think we're past that.
Speaker 1: Oh man, sorry, two hundred.
Speaker 2: We should people try and keep it eat.
Speaker 1: Let's go get our hair. Okay.
Speaker 2: So what do you guys think of this episode?
Speaker 1: M We both gave it a yeah.
Speaker 4: It had ups and downs from even you didn't love it,
Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, eh. You know it had a
Speaker 4: lot of ups and downs where there was things where
Speaker 4: I'm like, like the fight and then the end arrest.
Speaker 4: I was like, I think I'm a little just sick
Speaker 4: of Lucinda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got issues with we all don't love a
Speaker 1: Lucinda anymore?
Speaker 2: A bugin now.
Speaker 4: So Brandon has now told Brenda about Lucinda.
Speaker 1: Do you think the viewers at this point, like, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm a viewer. Yeah, I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: the show. I'm watching it for the first time. I
Speaker 1: feel like, as a viewer, I don't like this character.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, is it just us to our
Speaker 1: other people feeling the same way?
Speaker 3: Amy reads every comment on social So what do they
Speaker 3: think of Lucy?
Speaker 4: They haven't complained that much about Lucinda, but they're definitely
Speaker 4: not mad at.
Speaker 1: Us for our Oh well that's good.
Speaker 2: That's like a disinterest in her.
Speaker 1: That's unusual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I.
Speaker 4: Feel like I wish I could remember how I felt
Speaker 4: about her back then, but I only know that she's
Speaker 4: just sort.
Speaker 2: Of bugging me.
Speaker 3: So I have felt the same way. But I gotta
Speaker 3: tell you that scene in class between you Oh as
Speaker 3: Kelly and Dina as Lucinda, I was obsessed with. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you were on fire. I was hanging on every I
Speaker 3: couldn't get enough of it. I wanted that scene to
Speaker 3: go on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you love a good confrontation as long as
Speaker 1: you're not a part of it. Yeah, I could sit back.
Speaker 2: Yet that was juicy. That was juicy, and Lucinda didn't lose.
Speaker 4: It was a shepped ahead and I don't know who's
Speaker 4: been winnables.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I felt weird that Kelly was like, I mean because
Speaker 1: we see Kelly before jumping far ahead. But Kelly, uh
Speaker 1: Dylan tells Kelly right that Lucinda made the moves on
Speaker 1: him while she.
Speaker 2: Was foul shut her hoe down. Were you glad he
Speaker 2: did that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I guess, I mean.
Speaker 3: Otherwise he just looks like a complete dick.
Speaker 4: I agree, I was glad he did it because otherwise
Speaker 4: it gets like two threes companyish for me. I've said
Speaker 4: that before where I hate the like it's all a misunderstanding.
Speaker 2: It's like, tell her, tell her what happened.
Speaker 1: Right, Because Kelly's trying so so hard to help this
Speaker 1: girl and to and it feels also very weird because
Speaker 1: she's trying to get her boyfriend to fund her fum.
Speaker 1: It just feels like why is first of all, why
Speaker 1: is Kelly trying so hard to to do this like.
Speaker 2: Right, especially with his money it's weird because I.
Speaker 3: Know she's empowering to you and inspiring and you look
Speaker 3: up to her and yeah, yeah, you tried really hard,
Speaker 3: and she's yeah.
Speaker 4: I was happy when Dylan explained it because then you
Speaker 4: realize Dylan's not a jerk. He's right and he wants
Speaker 4: to be done with this lady. And he was sort
Speaker 4: of altruistic in not saying because of Brandon and cause
Speaker 4: you love her, and but he's finally like this chick sucks.
Speaker 3: I know, again jumping ahead, but this is the storyline
Speaker 3: people are going to be most excited about. I mean,
Speaker 3: we open up like with the dog, which we'll get
Speaker 3: to and it's a lovely storyline and sad, but okay,
Speaker 3: the I just feel like he had no reaction when
Speaker 3: you said her boyfriend is Brandon.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: Was he just at that point trying to cover like
Speaker 1: he was trying to process that and.
Speaker 2: Cover for the dinner.
Speaker 3: I had to go back and watch because I just
Speaker 3: wanted to see the internal thing, like Okay, it's a choice.
Speaker 3: He's like, not, no reaction, it's your best friend. Are
Speaker 3: you shocked? And like, oh man, that makes it even
Speaker 3: more difficult because she made the moves on you, and
Speaker 3: it's not just yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe he just didn't want to show his cards at
Speaker 1: that point because he wasn't quite ready to come clean.
Speaker 1: He didn't know how to.
Speaker 2: He's a really good point because his reaction.
Speaker 4: You think he would have been like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: what and then be like, this chick is terrible and
Speaker 4: made a move on me last week. I don't want
Speaker 4: her at my house?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you let her?
Speaker 3: That would have been the point in the program to
Speaker 3: do it, like, you know what, enough, now Brandon's involved
Speaker 3: and she's trying to cheat on him with me, And.
Speaker 4: Instead he was a tad passive aggressive and everyone's like,
Speaker 4: why are you being such a d word? But instead
Speaker 4: he should have just said, Kelly, this chick sucks. She
Speaker 4: tried to make a move on me.
Speaker 1: You should reconsider why you're looking up to her so much,
Speaker 1: like yeah, right, Instead he.
Speaker 3: Goes all like you should have a female distributor and
Speaker 3: just makes himself look worse instead of just saying no.
Speaker 4: Well and Lucinda is so self righteous and so like
Speaker 4: that went horribly, and he s go he's a jerk,
Speaker 4: when it's like, no, you're the jerk.
Speaker 1: You're the jerk and he's not giving you what you want,
Speaker 1: so now you can act like that, right.
Speaker 3: She was dressed like a clown in that scene, so
Speaker 3: it was like almost like like, oh, like a clown
Speaker 3: would be preferring mind something.
Speaker 1: What was that outfit? It was horrific.
Speaker 2: I can look.
Speaker 4: I was so ir too, because she also is like
Speaker 4: so mad at Brandon for telling Kelly, and then like
Speaker 4: two seconds later she's like all up in his making out,
Speaker 4: like I'm like you.
Speaker 1: With our strawberries. Girl.
Speaker 2: Oh god, First of you can't.
Speaker 1: Keep coming back to the strawberries. It's not gonna work
Speaker 1: every time.
Speaker 3: I can't watch them kiss and the open mouth and
Speaker 3: the tongues so much tongue. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: I was happy when he finally was like he's out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so is this the last time? No, she asks
Speaker 1: every week.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: I actually no offense to Diana Meyer was just the character.
Speaker 3: She played a great character that we yeah, I want
Speaker 3: to hate, which means we want she's doing something right
Speaker 3: because she's yeah, totally nice and great in real life
Speaker 3: and she's a good actress.
Speaker 1: She did a great job doing great job, Loucinda.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I here's another question that came up for me.
Speaker 4: Right towards the beginning. I think Kelly says to Brandon
Speaker 4: or Brandon says to Kelly. I think Brandon says to Kelly,
Speaker 4: did you tell him what almost almost happened? But I'm
Speaker 4: almost almost me too?
Speaker 3: Oh thank you again. I thought I was being negligent
Speaker 3: and wasn't paying attention last week, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: They kissed that unlit did more.
Speaker 1: They did more than that, we don't know about it, which, no, no,
Speaker 1: they just fully kissed.
Speaker 2: Though it's like almost.
Speaker 1: That was confusing to me too. Those are called mixed messages.
Speaker 2: People don't let.
Speaker 1: Someone say you almost kiss somebody when you really did.
Speaker 4: And Josh Richland Man, he is not going to let
Speaker 4: this go. And I feel like he saw Kelly kiss Dylan,
Speaker 4: so he knows Kelly isn't with Brandon.
Speaker 1: He's just his eyeballs are everywhere and he's just waiting.
Speaker 3: He's just being there in the background. That was like,
Speaker 3: that was so much. I was like, you know what, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was like ready to go before he was raised
Speaker 3: to go. And it's like okay, no, and Kelly.
Speaker 2: Does deliver another.
Speaker 4: Sort of trying to like smash Josh Richland, but this
Speaker 4: one was like, oh god, crim.
Speaker 3: It was a sunker at the time, Like, I wonder
Speaker 3: if you were like doctor called doctor Kevorkian.
Speaker 4: I don't even think you could use that line now
Speaker 4: because you're basically telling him.
Speaker 1: To like go kill himself. Yeah, it's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: was called bullying that.
Speaker 2: I literally was like, this is not.
Speaker 1: The planet a favor called doctor.
Speaker 3: That didn't track for me as a Kelly line. I
Speaker 3: don't feel like she would have said.
Speaker 1: Maybe I guess Caveorkian was in the news, you know,
Speaker 1: was pop call?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was. I think he was.
Speaker 4: And then it was for me, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I did not age well, yes.
Speaker 1: Did you guys like it? When when when Brenda and
Speaker 1: Brandon are talking before the before both of those scenes,
Speaker 1: Brenda and Brandon are talking and Brenda says, uh that
Speaker 1: she finds out that she's the second to know that
Speaker 1: Kelly already knows about Brandon and Lucinda, and then she
Speaker 1: and then he's leaving the room and she goes, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's kind of hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 3: All I know is I feel like Jason added the line,
Speaker 3: don't you have an ex fiancee to.
Speaker 1: Go harass.
Speaker 3: And it's like throwing in a funny thing?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 3: That's when Shannon was depressed with Dean Factor.
Speaker 1: They probably had a good chuckle over it on set.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think they wrote that line in or he
Speaker 3: threw it in and they laughed at I feel.
Speaker 1: Like it makes sense for Brenda's storyline, so it very
Speaker 1: well could have been written, but it had so much
Speaker 1: more context.
Speaker 4: Who wrote my favorite line of the whole episode? Those
Speaker 4: boots aren't made of broccoli? That was real good. She's
Speaker 4: those suddenly like animal rights and he calls her out.
Speaker 2: He's like, those.
Speaker 1: Boots aren't made of broccoli, right, And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll be you know, whatevery, Vegan says the last to
Speaker 1: go the boots.
Speaker 3: Once again, a pile high of vegetables that are like
Speaker 3: whoa to a family of four.
Speaker 1: Calmed down, nobody's eating any of your carrot sticks?
Speaker 3: What's happening? That's wasteful to me? Cindy, Cindy Walder, Carrol
Speaker 3: calm down, like it's just it was like enough for
Speaker 3: like twenty people. And that pot of corn that bothered me,
Speaker 3: that big old pot of corn sticking out.
Speaker 1: What bothered me was that Brandon was in the kitchen
Speaker 1: as if he was going to be making the dinner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's right in there with him cutting stuff. I didn't
Speaker 1: buy that Cindy's gonna let him touch her kitchen knives.
Speaker 2: I also think we have a hint.
Speaker 4: I don't know if i'd call it foreshadowing, but just
Speaker 4: a hint of maybe trying to have some continuity with
Speaker 4: the golf and the mention of the father son golf
Speaker 4: and they're out on the driving range because I believe
Speaker 4: next week is.
Speaker 2: There's a big golf part.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jen, you're going to be thrilled, you know.
Speaker 1: I like that because when I saw him at the
Speaker 1: driving range, I was like, wait, wait, wait, rewind that.
Speaker 1: I need to look at his swing totally.
Speaker 2: How was his swing?
Speaker 1: Irons wasn't bad?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of could.
Speaker 1: He's very athletics. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I couldn't get past the outfit.
Speaker 1: But he borrowed that from that outfit. That's a scene
Speaker 1: sweater that Jim wears when he wants to go to
Speaker 1: the club to play tennis.
Speaker 2: You have a nine one zero charity golf tournament. Why not? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I don't know, do you know, does Brandon
Speaker 1: Jason play golf.
Speaker 2: Like he must?
Speaker 1: They must have all they must all know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, does Brian golf? He must?
Speaker 1: Never a golfing going on with Brian, but with Brian
Speaker 1: and Jason sounds a little like something they would do.
Speaker 2: Can you golf toy?
Speaker 1: She is a good putter, very good putter, and you
Speaker 1: know what, you can't golf without putts. So we golf
Speaker 1: together once in a tournament. And yeah, and uh she
Speaker 1: you were asleep in the golf car until it was
Speaker 1: time to put you did you made all the putts.
Speaker 2: We had a pee wee golf tournament.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, Jen was super patient. She gave
Speaker 3: me some great tips and was really encouraging to the
Speaker 3: point where I played before and I've been like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this isn't for me. I can't do it. And I
Speaker 3: walked away after that with you feeling encouraged that there
Speaker 3: might be hope for me.
Speaker 1: And have you played?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I wanted it for you to.
Speaker 3: We could have like a double date, playing like it's fun.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I appreciated your effort. I knew that
Speaker 1: was the last place you wanted to pay.
Speaker 4: Can we talk for a second about the animal rights
Speaker 4: activism happening, and also like.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, can we just talk about what it was
Speaker 1: like when Andrea joins Donna and Brenda in the quad
Speaker 1: uh to talk about the animal right now? Part? Can
Speaker 1: She's carrying everything like there's nothing she couldn't be carrying
Speaker 1: to block the belly. I felt bad.
Speaker 3: I was like, there was so many painting pattern here
Speaker 3: put her in a neutral or like solid.
Speaker 4: Although I will say Andrea gave an amazing I'm going
Speaker 4: backwards for a second, an amazing side eye when Kelly
Speaker 4: and Lyscinda were having their you know, toe to toe
Speaker 4: is how do you say that? I don't know, but
Speaker 4: Andrea just gives side eye and it was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was good. She's got those pregnancy hormones going through
Speaker 1: her body, She's got no patience.
Speaker 2: So the animal rights activism drama.
Speaker 4: Also does Brenda have a crush on the animal guy?
Speaker 2: Because do they give that line I'd march in his army.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, maybe she just thinks he's cute.
Speaker 4: You know the other thing that I did think was
Speaker 4: funny about that is it's literally like here's the animal
Speaker 4: rights guy talking to like the rando girl, and here's
Speaker 4: Brenda and Donna literally right next to them talking about
Speaker 4: him in full voice, like that much in his army,
Speaker 4: Like that dude can fulice right.
Speaker 3: There, he can hear you. I just love that, Like
Speaker 3: because they're animal right activists. They're activists. They are dressed
Speaker 3: like they're ready to beatly different than the like in
Speaker 3: the nineties.
Speaker 1: It was all very like it was really true?
Speaker 2: Was it me?
Speaker 1: Or did it? Did the animal rights activists? The guy
Speaker 1: the Jonathan he was the guy with the earrings and
Speaker 1: the tight T shirt? Did he look exactly like Howard
Speaker 1: the Drug Push or DJ guy.
Speaker 2: You're yeah, yeah, is.
Speaker 3: Idle how I knew him, So yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: I just thought it went really fast from being like
Speaker 4: peaceful protesters on campus to hardcore gangster criminals.
Speaker 2: Like I was like, wow, and.
Speaker 1: I'm on a college campus. It just didn't it didn't
Speaker 1: feel right, like it was just a lot.
Speaker 2: It was very strange.
Speaker 4: And they're like in the apartment just talking about a
Speaker 4: massive crime, like massive crime.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, the FBI was there and.
Speaker 1: It's a bust and Brenda gets arrested, and like.
Speaker 4: How did they have they been doing this on campuses
Speaker 4: all over the country, Like the FBI just doesn't like
Speaker 4: show up right.
Speaker 1: It was like a staying operations so.
Speaker 2: Crazy and Brenda's just busted and it's just.
Speaker 1: Like it went from zero to like one hundred, real rural,
Speaker 1: real quick. And also no style. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Would Brenda have really done that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's not really the kind of gal to
Speaker 1: go along with things without being informed. And I felt
Speaker 1: like she was kind of going along with it and
Speaker 1: not really knowing what she was getting into. And then
Speaker 1: they were like, just stay out here and she said no,
Speaker 1: and it just didn't feel mess.
Speaker 4: She's on the lookout girl, and it's just like you're
Speaker 4: literally in a rhyme ring.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they predicted it with Jim being like
Speaker 3: can't she do anything half or like, so we're like, oh,
Speaker 3: she's gonna go full force with this. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see her go do more.
Speaker 1: I wanted her seat, to see Brenda in there letting
Speaker 1: the animals kind of stuff instead of being the person
Speaker 1: that did nothing and still gets in.
Speaker 2: Trouble a well lady criminal.
Speaker 4: So they're open all the cages and then the lady
Speaker 4: criminals just pushing the papers.
Speaker 2: But she's not tearing.
Speaker 4: Them or throwing she's pushing them when it's like, okay, tomorrow,
Speaker 4: we can come in and just pick up our papers again,
Speaker 4: refile criminal.
Speaker 1: And I personally felt like when they were taking the
Speaker 1: animals out of the cages, they were a little rough
Speaker 1: with them because kind of goes against the whole point
Speaker 1: of what they're doing. But it opened up a whole
Speaker 1: can of worms for me because I've always been so
Speaker 1: torn on this this moral issue of animal testing. Obviously
Speaker 1: I don't want, you don't want, we don't want. Nobody
Speaker 1: wants to have animals tortured or test it on. That's
Speaker 1: just horrible. And especially back then in the nineties, we
Speaker 1: were young and so passionate about this, like animal rights
Speaker 1: and protecting animals was I mean, it still is, but
Speaker 1: like we were so passionate about it then, and but
Speaker 1: then Andrea comes in with the whole like it's medical
Speaker 1: research and they're not. She says, they're not being you know,
Speaker 1: excessively harmed. But what where's the line? And how do
Speaker 1: you how do you decide which side of that do
Speaker 1: you stand on it? I still feel conflicted about it.
Speaker 3: Same, but I felt like, like.
Speaker 1: Do I want my kids to have that life saving
Speaker 1: research that that that it's being provided, or do I
Speaker 1: want an animal to go free? I still don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel like a rat and it's different than
Speaker 1: a dog to me, But I shouldn't feel that way, right.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know. And and she wasn't like they're
Speaker 3: not being excessively harm Is that what she said?
Speaker 1: Yeah, something like like keeps them relatively comfortable or somewhere
Speaker 1: around that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like she wasn't justifying it enough to
Speaker 3: be like, ooh, yeah, that's okay there, but there is
Speaker 3: an argument that's like human life. Yeah, a dog's life
Speaker 3: for a human life, and it's like less not fair
Speaker 3: all lives.
Speaker 1: But can't they just go and do it with AI? Know, like,
Speaker 1: does this the days of having to test on animals
Speaker 1: must be over? But I'm ninety nine percent sure.
Speaker 2: That there were I don't think it's over. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think AI.
Speaker 3: As of next week we will be AI and not
Speaker 3: here doing the podcast. It'll be versions of us, so
Speaker 3: we'll be right.
Speaker 4: I'm still like super confused on everything what AI is,
Speaker 4: but I.
Speaker 2: Know it's very in the news, but I'm like, what happen?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been coming for a while. People. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I wouldn't get in the conversation.
Speaker 2: I would not get in a self driving car if
Speaker 2: you paid me.
Speaker 1: That's your concern.
Speaker 2: Out of everything, I don't know. I saw him drive
Speaker 2: a self driving car driving around.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, you something in San Francisco and they
Speaker 4: like have self driving cars?
Speaker 2: No is AI self driving cars?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 1: What is AI? Artifella artificial intelligence?
Speaker 3: I mean, but like what artificial examination?
Speaker 4: Why is AI so in the news, like right now, because.
Speaker 3: They're going to replace actors with A I like, is
Speaker 3: that not true? Speaking out of turn.
Speaker 1: It's just not just actors. I think they're going to
Speaker 1: replace pilots, They're going to replace a pharmacists, They're gonna
Speaker 1: replace everyone, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's good.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's been happening. It's been coming for
Speaker 1: a long time. Ever since they started cloning people, we
Speaker 1: knew we were Sorry my language, but well I'm not mad, Like.
Speaker 3: I wish there was a clone in me with five
Speaker 3: kids and like working and like we always talk about this,
Speaker 3: like just have a clone of us. So this is
Speaker 3: like a clone of you but way smarter.
Speaker 1: Wow? Oh, like nose everything?
Speaker 3: Why they sort the people know it's not me.
Speaker 2: Well that gets sorted. Is Brenda going to the slammer,
Speaker 2: the slama going to the jail.
Speaker 1: Well she got cuffed.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like it was aggressive.
Speaker 1: She refused her her right to no. She she said,
Speaker 1: you said nothing, which was smart, but I can you know,
Speaker 1: we won't go.
Speaker 2: Jim's getting a call and he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: He's gonna getting woken up, his hair, hairy shirt, it's
Speaker 1: gonna get out of bed.
Speaker 3: With all those vegetables she was cutting up. They weren't
Speaker 3: getting lovey doubby tonight because that's a major gas going on.
Speaker 1: Pain. God, so they're they're sleeping vegetables. Don't give you
Speaker 1: casts you need to You need to let go of that.
Speaker 1: Yes they do, Oh my god, yes they do. Man.
Speaker 2: It's if you've had broccoli or an artichoke lately. It's
Speaker 2: rough you guys. Sidebar.
Speaker 4: I actually had to google do you get gassier during
Speaker 4: menopause or perry menopause, whatever it's called, because what is
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 2: We're all the same.
Speaker 1: No, I'm older barely. It's a big difference in a year.
Speaker 1: Makes everyone's glad. That is the one thing.
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of things during menopause. It sounds
Speaker 3: so much better, say pery menopause. Okay, twilight menopause.
Speaker 1: But I never know what that was.
Speaker 2: You haven't gotten the toots. I think I'm.
Speaker 1: Heavy, No, I mean you guys, whoever's not everyone listening
Speaker 1: is like they're off the rails.
Speaker 3: Wait and they like it.
Speaker 1: Okay, poor Rocky, Rocky's got the duots. Rocky.
Speaker 2: That was just a rough storyline. They're like, and he
Speaker 2: falls in love with the dog. The dog is dead.
Speaker 2: It's just like he does.
Speaker 1: On our floral couch too. Guys, we got to get
Speaker 1: a new couch.
Speaker 2: Sad. Although David is David's being kinder and loving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was to Donna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's sort of making a strong comeback.
Speaker 3: I was impressed that a young boy, I mean he's
Speaker 3: not a young boy, but men of his age, Like
Speaker 3: he was talking with the vet and getting the blood
Speaker 3: work and handling that. I was kind of impressed. I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, well, because how old are they eighteen
Speaker 3: ninety step up and be.
Speaker 1: A man, and you've had to step up and be
Speaker 1: a woman. Neither of you have parents anymore for any
Speaker 1: kind of guidance or oh man.
Speaker 2: She would talk about my favorite scene in the whole episode.
Speaker 4: The dinner party, the fight, the fight between Brandon and Dylan.
Speaker 2: With Steve in there.
Speaker 1: Well wait, wait, wait, Before the fight though, I just
Speaker 1: love that Cindy has brown He's an ice cream ready
Speaker 1: for and his friends.
Speaker 2: That's literally.
Speaker 1: Four eight years old.
Speaker 2: It was. That was the best part.
Speaker 4: She's all, I've made Brannie's for your friends, and then
Speaker 4: during the fight, they're like punching each other and she's all,
Speaker 4: the brownie's already.
Speaker 1: And Steve's hilarious in that scene. He's like, wait, sex freak,
Speaker 1: let's go back to that man. This is the way
Speaker 1: he's standing there like listening to them.
Speaker 2: The scene would have sucked without Steve.
Speaker 1: Did you all know that he was going to take
Speaker 1: the punch in the face though? Did you see that coming? No? No,
Speaker 1: I did, because he's standing right there like it's classic,
Speaker 1: like one guy's gonna duck and the next guy's gonna
Speaker 1: get punched.
Speaker 2: He just made the whole thing. I think the scene
Speaker 2: would have been dramatic. It was.
Speaker 4: It was like kind of intense, but he made it
Speaker 4: so funny and then they make up so fast.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand how that's.
Speaker 3: Meant for you, you guys.
Speaker 1: Oh so they punched, and now they just don't have
Speaker 1: a snack.
Speaker 3: No fine, when hold on to shit forever? And men
Speaker 3: are like, okay, cool, we're okay, we're good.
Speaker 1: Let's move on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the punch to the punch, and then Steve goes
Speaker 4: down and I was like.
Speaker 1: Whoo did you go woo? He really did fall down,
Speaker 1: and that was funny and good like of physical acting
Speaker 1: on his part. I believed that he got punched in
Speaker 1: the nose. I believe that that was real blood.
Speaker 2: That scene could have been the worst, and yet it
Speaker 2: was the best.
Speaker 1: Because that wasn't even real blood.
Speaker 4: First of all, don't even tell me that. Did they
Speaker 4: not really go in for ice cream and brownies?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 4: I thought again, it was like they what could have
Speaker 4: irritated me and sort of been Three's company. Ish this
Speaker 4: whole like fight and this their drama and I don't
Speaker 4: need it. Just lickety split, punch, Steve's down, it's over.
Speaker 2: We're good. Who cares that you kissed my girlfriend? And
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: It's fine, no hard feelings, it's all good. I like that,
Speaker 1: And you're so right, tour. That's that's a I don't
Speaker 1: have any idea what that's like. Because I have three daughters.
Speaker 1: You have boys, so you understand, like they don't hold
Speaker 1: onto stuff like that. They get over it and then
Speaker 1: they're like, let's play a video game or like let's
Speaker 1: go they have ball, or they don't care.
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I mean my generalization of boys,
Speaker 3: I think so my boys are a bit different just
Speaker 3: because I've always been like emotions, emotions, talk about feelings
Speaker 3: and like, but I think in general, men always say,
Speaker 3: you know, we're simple, the way our hearts you know,
Speaker 3: there were a stomach, and you know, like they say
Speaker 3: it about themselves. We're not speaking out of this is
Speaker 3: how they talk. And and they also are like, you know, men.
Speaker 1: Don't.
Speaker 3: Men don't like talk crap about each other. Like women
Speaker 3: will be like, oh my god, you see what she
Speaker 3: was wearing. I'm like, like, what did she do? Like
Speaker 3: men are just like, hey, what's up? Like they don't
Speaker 3: notice any of it.
Speaker 4: That's sort of a kind of a great point there,
Speaker 4: and that like Dylan's just going right over in his
Speaker 4: speedy portion and he's gonna ah and they instead he
Speaker 4: wasn't like, you know, did you hear what Brandon did?
Speaker 2: He kissed my girlfriend? You know, they just get right
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 3: They get to it, they get over and it's done with,
Speaker 3: which is there's kind of something nice about that. And
Speaker 3: I wish not that we like to give boys credit,
Speaker 3: but that's something we could learn from. You know, we
Speaker 3: hold onto stuff as women, like we take everything so
Speaker 3: personal and we get so sensitive and emotional about things,
Speaker 3: often justified, but like it would be nice to be like, eh, whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're with the Lucinda thing. There does seem to
Speaker 2: be a bit more sort of gossip going on. Not exactly,
Speaker 2: but it's more like there's a lot more talking well,
Speaker 2: he's dating Lucinda and are you the reason for her divorce?
Speaker 4: And oh and Josh Richland's trying to you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: Josh Richland is not being like more.
Speaker 2: Of a gossipy guy, but that's his job. He's on there,
Speaker 2: he's on the Brandon Walsh beat.
Speaker 1: He reminds me of jim Was it Jimmy from Superman?
Speaker 1: Or so true? Is it Jimmy? That's so true? Did
Speaker 1: you Okay? So Lucinda is this brilliant professor because she
Speaker 1: says things like under the right circumstances, everyone is capable
Speaker 1: of betrayal. Uh duh.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, let me write that down.
Speaker 1: It's a good note.
Speaker 2: She sold it. I listened to her.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh uh huh, interesting monogamy. Okay, okay, okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not buying anything. That chick was saying, My god.
Speaker 4: How about when Kelly says to Dylan, thank you for
Speaker 4: ruining my first dinner party?
Speaker 3: Hell, like, that's but you did you know what? You
Speaker 3: put together a beautiful table?
Speaker 2: Yes you did.
Speaker 3: Dylan doesn't know what fork to use, but I mean,
Speaker 3: there's more money than everybody. But like, okay, Like.
Speaker 1: So they're they're twenty years old on the show now?
Speaker 1: Is that? I feel like?
Speaker 3: Not even?
Speaker 1: How do they actually growed up?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I gotta tell you, Throughout the
Speaker 3: entire episode, you were very much the lady.
Speaker 1: Like the hostess and the lady with the hair.
Speaker 3: Up and the outfits. And I was just like, so,
Speaker 3: here's the thing I wanted to be like, Wow, she
Speaker 3: looks a lot more mature at this point, but like
Speaker 3: the hair up, the long dresses, you still were sexy
Speaker 3: as hell.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks.
Speaker 1: You know what I love is that long dress with
Speaker 1: the Henley under it was my favorites, so cute and warm.
Speaker 1: I was like it cozy dressed.
Speaker 3: For it looked great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen that look again, that the Henley
Speaker 1: under a short sleeve like Maxie dress.
Speaker 3: No, you should bring it back. The longest paper candle
Speaker 3: I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: I was like, my only like beef with all that
Speaker 4: was that Kelly didn't believe Dylan.
Speaker 2: At first. I was like, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Why would she?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, Oh my god. When a man says like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: well she tried to sleep with me, You're like, what.
Speaker 1: Would you like?
Speaker 2: Well, that's why he was so awful to her. He's
Speaker 2: done with her, and he's trying to.
Speaker 4: Like sort of deal because of Kelly, and he's like this,
Speaker 4: Like I said, this chick sucks.
Speaker 3: But is that a boy trait as well? To be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that girl liked me. You're like, okay, yeah, get over yourself.
Speaker 3: Like men are always like, oh she was flirting with me.
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Where does one buy crembrew let I don't know either,
Speaker 4: Whole Foods. You can buy a done cremberulet.
Speaker 1: Back then, what was that grocery store, Bristol Farms, that
Speaker 1: was the fancy grocery store. You're right, I would remember that.
Speaker 3: That was the og like air one and yeah, I
Speaker 3: still go there.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 2: Crystal Farms is still like, yeah, Bristol Farms.
Speaker 3: Is great, but it had just like I remember in
Speaker 3: the nineties, like it was so major to go to
Speaker 3: Bristol Farms, like you felt like in the.
Speaker 1: Corner of Santa Monica. I remember, And yes, fair Faxy
Speaker 1: kind of area not cheap, but.
Speaker 3: I went to the one in Westwood, but yes, I know,
Speaker 3: the exact too pricey.
Speaker 4: Also, Brenda and Brandon have a lot of chats in
Speaker 4: their Jack and Jill bathroom.
Speaker 2: Is it a Jack and Jill? Yeah, they love to
Speaker 2: chat in.
Speaker 1: There, Jill and Jack maybe. Yeah, uh, well that's where
Speaker 1: you do that, you know, when you're when you're twins
Speaker 1: and you share a bathroom.
Speaker 3: They don't like when he slapped her on the inner thigh.
Speaker 2: What I missed that?
Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know, I just don't.
Speaker 1: You're always sensitive to the brother sister.
Speaker 3: It's from the years of the fans putting that in
Speaker 3: our head of like they were little ancestuals. You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: someone should do an edit, someone should do stuff together.
Speaker 2: It's a bit mun Yeah, someone should do an edit
Speaker 2: of all sure, yeah, we need that.
Speaker 3: And Brenda didn't help the case by saying that's hot.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, all right, you guys, we've covered pretty much everything.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and score the episode Eddie got.
Speaker 4: Oh six eight Jenny and Toria was just very harsh critics, very.
Speaker 3: Harsh, like okay, fine, fine, fine, Yeah.
Speaker 2: They're all they're all good in mine and.
Speaker 1: Tons and tons of fun. What's next? What's next? This
Speaker 1: is still season four, you guys. It's never ends in
Speaker 1: for episode twenty four out of thirty three? Am I
Speaker 1: right about that? Wow? Yeah? Yeah, so your homework everybody
Speaker 1: is episode twenty four Cuffs and Links.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it was golf. I knew that golf
Speaker 2: was coming. Cuffs and yeah. I think I think there's
Speaker 2: like a famous baseball player. I think it's Barry Bombs
Speaker 2: in the next one.
Speaker 4: Like oh, yeah, I mean cool.
Speaker 3: Can't we watch it?
Speaker 4: All right?
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