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Speaker 3: Oh great, setting of that table. So I mentioned that

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Speaker 2: One more for you, mister Secretary, Thank you for being

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Speaker 3: It's the fastest growing source of energy on the planet.

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Speaker 8: She didn't know exactly what the goods were that they

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Speaker 4: She can call back in let me know who got me?

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Speaker 4: The benefit right now that I would say that's the

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is exactly what somebody who've been got

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Speaker 1: No, that's too obvious. That's too obvious.

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Speaker 2: If they've got you, they don't actually give you anything

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Speaker 4: But so let's see, Okay, people are some of you,

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Speaker 2: Really that the hornets are coming for you. You kick

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Speaker 4: Just I think, look, I will just keep pulling the

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Speaker 1: Where I am logically.

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Speaker 4: Logically, why would you think that every Democrat and every

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Speaker 2: Want to talk immigration enforcement, but here we are, here.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's an obsession out there, and I

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Speaker 2: Do I think here some talkbacks GG Randy Form Orlando,

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Speaker 8: That's a false dichotomy. No, Bengino wouldn't do it just

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Speaker 8: But he might do it to protect Trump. The names

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Speaker 8: They may all do it to protect their own families

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're being naive.

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Speaker 4: That guy sounds crazy. You ever listen to somebody and

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Speaker 1: He's crazy.

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Speaker 4: You think that Trump is on the Epstein list, and

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Speaker 4: Dan Bongino is like, first of all, what is the

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Speaker 4: You think if he was sleeping with underage girls on

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Speaker 4: This is where I think you shine a light on

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Speaker 1: Looks back on tright. This is I told you.

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Speaker 2: The second people tell Clainn I have to talk about

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Speaker 2: you need to get Clay to get off this on

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Speaker 1: Guys and Instaid.

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Speaker 4: Dan Bongino is covering for Trump, which is insane.

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Speaker 1: I know, man, okay, but we all know it's insane.

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Speaker 4: We all know you like fifteen percent of people are

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Speaker 4: if you watch more sports and you went to Prize Picks,

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Speaker 4: and you watched Prize Picks and use code Clay, you

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Speaker 4: all over the country. Use my name Clay, and when

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Speaker 9: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We are joined by

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Speaker 9: our friend Selena Zito. Book comes out today. I've got

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Speaker 9: a copy because you know, I know some people. Butler,

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Speaker 9: the Untold Story of the near assassination of Donald Trump

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Speaker 9: and the fight for America's heartland. Selena, you do great reporting.

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Speaker 9: You're an excellent writer.

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Speaker 2: You were right there that day in Butler as those

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Speaker 1: Tell us what was it?

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Speaker 7: Like? What happened? Yeah? So you know when you're in

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Speaker 7: And so that day I was supposed to interview President

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Speaker 7: then five minutes before he's supposed to go on stage,

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Speaker 7: She did the cover of the book, and race through

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Speaker 7: And I've interviewed President Trump dozens of times, and at

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Speaker 7: So they put me in the buffer area. The buffer

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Speaker 4: Selena, this is I've got the book in front of

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Speaker 4: Not much about his background, not much about his motivation

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Speaker 7: It does seem improbable that all of this happened. And

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Speaker 7: that's this moment with him, right that you really understand,

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Speaker 7: the improbability that he didn't die, and he questions about

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Speaker 6: Do I know?

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Speaker 7: How do I have this new purpose? And I think

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Speaker 7: This is not a lame duck presidency. He is approaching

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Speaker 4: I think that what you just said is so important,

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 7: So I had an interview coming out with him this

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Speaker 7: week on Friday in the Washington Post, and he talks

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Speaker 7: about that in a very meaningful and profound way. And

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Speaker 7: you know, part of who he surrounds himself also has

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Speaker 7: to do with Butler. Like Butler changed everything. It didn't

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Speaker 7: just change the American electorate. It didn't just change our

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Speaker 7: coalitions and galvanize people. And people will read that detail

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Speaker 7: as I continue to cover the election in a way

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Speaker 7: that none of you have sasaw because the reporters were

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Speaker 7: writing something completely different than what I was reporting in

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Speaker 7: that moment. But everything changed in that moment. And I

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Speaker 7: think this nuggets important because it goes to understanding Trump

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Speaker 7: in a way that people don't understand, and it goes

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Speaker 7: to understanding why he's going to do what he's going

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Speaker 7: to do because God saved him. And that is the

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Speaker 7: moment that he says, fight, fight, fight. And I asked

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Speaker 7: him about it the next day, and I asked him

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Speaker 7: again about it two weeks ago, he said, and I

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Speaker 7: just wanted to revisit it with him, and he had

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Speaker 7: the same exact answer, because I didn't know if you

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Speaker 7: would remember that or not, right, that was a pretty

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Speaker 7: crazy day. The next day he said, I was not

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump in that moment. I had an obligation to

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Speaker 7: be someone who shows resolves and be a symbol of

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Speaker 7: the country, be a symbol of grit and exceptionalism, and

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Speaker 7: we will go undefeated. And that is what America has

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Speaker 7: always meant to me. And I had an obligation as

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Speaker 7: a former president and possible the next president to show

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Speaker 7: that because in a lot of ways, because I didn't

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Speaker 7: want people to panic there and they didn't, by the way,

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Speaker 7: but also I didn't want people watching panicking out in

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Speaker 7: the streets. I had an obligation to be presidential, not

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Speaker 7: to be Donald Trump, to represent the office in the

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Speaker 7: country with resolves.

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Speaker 2: Selena, Honestly, wasn't that just the most amazing thing you've

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Speaker 2: ever seen a president do? Amazing even for President Trump,

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Speaker 2: who's done a lot of incredible stuff. Clay and I

478
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Speaker 2: still sit there and think, I can't. It's hard to

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Speaker 2: believe even when you watch the video, even when we

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Speaker 2: saw it the first time as it was happening, that

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Speaker 2: a president took a bullet through the year, was bleeding

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Speaker 2: on stage and turned to his people and raised a

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Speaker 2: fist and told them to fight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. Is that process that went through his head,

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Speaker 7: that understanding that it was more he wasn't he was

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Speaker 7: a man there, he was a president. He was America

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Speaker 7: in that moment, right, you know that symbol of our

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Speaker 7: country when you think about the American eagle, right, perseverance

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Speaker 7: and strength and grit. He knew that people needed to

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Speaker 7: know that he was fighting, that the country was fighting,

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Speaker 7: and that something as dark as demonic as what Thomas

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Speaker 7: Matthew Crooks attempted to do and would have caused immense

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Speaker 7: chaos and unrest in this country was not succeeded. And

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Speaker 7: he wanted to show that America is resilient. I don't know,

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Speaker 7: and I remember him telling me that, and my reaction was, well, wow,

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Speaker 7: that's the because it was it was, it was it

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Speaker 7: was to think on your feet like that after you've

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Speaker 7: been shot. I mean, most people would be in the

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Speaker 7: fetal position, right And I'm watching him he remember, I'm

501
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Speaker 7: only four feet away, and I'm watching him like struggle

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Speaker 7: with his secret service because he wants his shoes on,

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Speaker 7: and damn it, he's going to get his shoes on.

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Speaker 7: He is not walking off of that stage in his

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Speaker 7: stocking feet across gravel. Were you able to be the

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Speaker 7: United States?

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Speaker 4: Were you able to go to slop? I'm just kind

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Speaker 4: of curious when something like that happens. Were you able

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Speaker 4: to immediately contextualize the historic moment of what had occurred

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Speaker 4: and the fact that I think for hundreds of years

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Speaker 4: people are going to be watching that video and it's

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Speaker 4: going to become even more iconic after the passions of

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Speaker 4: the moment start to fade because Democrats have whatever they

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Speaker 4: think about Trump. But I think fifty one hundred years

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Speaker 4: from now, long after anyone who is listening to us

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Speaker 4: today is not here, that moment is going to become

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Speaker 4: so indelible and so iconic an American life. Did you

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Speaker 4: understand that or feel that immediately? And second part, did you, like,

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Speaker 4: were you able to sleep that night? Just kind of

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Speaker 4: curious when you have that experience how long it takes

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Speaker 4: you to come down off the adrenaline rush, just based

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Speaker 4: on where you were to say nothing of him.

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Speaker 7: I'm still not come down from it. And you know,

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Speaker 7: I knew exactly. You know, as a journalist, you know,

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Speaker 7: part of your job, even if it's a tiny thread,

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Speaker 7: you're always covering history every day.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 7: But I knew in that moment, you know. And he

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Speaker 7: talks about purpose, but I also talk about purpose. There

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Speaker 7: is a reason I was there, right, and there was

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Speaker 7: a reason I was supposed to chronicle this, and I

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Speaker 7: knew that that was what my purpose was and to

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Speaker 7: be able to tell this story. And because I have

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Speaker 7: a gift of total recall, right, I can remember every smell,

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Speaker 7: every like I think and collor right like I can

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Speaker 7: smell and taste and feel everything in that moment. And

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Speaker 7: and when they when people say when they've been in

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Speaker 7: in a in a in a tragic situation, the time

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Speaker 7: slows down. Then that was very true for me. And

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Speaker 7: and I watched the entire thing in in in in

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Speaker 7: these these very fine layers. And because I have the

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Speaker 7: gift of recall, and plus I have my recorder on

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Speaker 7: and I'm talking that I record everything that happens. I

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Speaker 7: can hear everything the president says. But also I'm talking

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Speaker 7: to my recorder, so I don't forget anything. And and

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Speaker 7: I had and I probably started the book. And I

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Speaker 7: didn't even think about a book. I just thought, well,

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Speaker 7: I need to write this story.

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Speaker 3: And I did.

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Speaker 7: But you know, people came to me, it's like, you need,

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Speaker 7: you have an obligation to write this book. And and

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Speaker 7: so I immediately started writing it. While as I'm writing it,

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Speaker 7: I'm still continuing to cover an extraordinarily historic election. That

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Speaker 7: I believe is that I'm watching it that other people

555
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Speaker 7: aren't covering what's happening. They're covering what they wish was happening.

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Speaker 7: They're covering what they hope happens. But I'm on the

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Speaker 7: ground there in Pennsylvania, in the middle of somewhere in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 7: and I'm covering this and seeing this entire country change,

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Speaker 7: not just in the rural areas but in the suburbs.

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Speaker 7: I'm watching these young mothers who was who have never

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Speaker 7: put a Trump hat on in the next weekend, have

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Speaker 7: them on at their kids' soccer games because and there's

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Speaker 7: interviews in the book and they say, hey, he can

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Speaker 7: take a bullet for me. I can wear a damn

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Speaker 7: hat and not worry about what people say to me.

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Speaker 7: Everything changed in that moment.

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Speaker 4: Welcome Back in Clay Travis bock Sexton show, Gotten Gotten Caught.

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Speaker 2: They gotcha. I don't know how they got you. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what they got you with, but they got you.

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Speaker 1: They got me.

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Speaker 4: By the way, let me say this, I mentioned it

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Speaker 4: when we were talking with Selena Zido. I read the

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Speaker 4: opening of her new book, Butler, and it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: And I do believe that sometimes in.

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Speaker 4: The constant flow of history, we miss the things that

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Speaker 4: are going to resonate historically long after we're gone. I

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Speaker 4: really feel like Butler, Pennsylvania is going to be a

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Speaker 4: Gettysburg like moment for presidents in the decades in the

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Speaker 4: years to come, and people are out there saying, oh,

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Speaker 4: you're crazy. Remember Lincoln at Gettysburg was panned overwhelmingly in

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Speaker 4: the immediate aftermath of that speech. I think Trump's reaction

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Speaker 4: in Butler, after Trump is off the stage is going

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Speaker 4: to become more iconic as more become aware of it,

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Speaker 4: because then we talked about it. And I'm proud of

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Speaker 4: the show we did on the Monday right after, because

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Speaker 4: I think we captured that historical moment. The way that

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Speaker 4: he behaved is the most badass reaction in the history

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Speaker 4: of the modern presidency, such that if that were a movie,

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Speaker 4: all of us would have said, there's no way the

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Speaker 4: president would have behaved like that.

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Speaker 1: And I think it.

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Speaker 4: You know, in the the immediate aftermath, fifty percent of

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Speaker 4: people or whatever it is, don't like Trump, and so

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Speaker 4: they don't want to give him any credit. I think

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Speaker 4: as the passions of his presidency fade, I think the

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Speaker 4: bravery of that moment is going to echo and reverberate

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Speaker 4: even more in our historical consciousness.

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Speaker 2: I think the passions of some of our esteemed audience

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Speaker 2: will fade over the next twenty four hours, after you

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Speaker 2: have been poking, sir, poking at some of them, and

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Speaker 2: you know that's that's.

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Speaker 1: Off, That's all fine and good.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow will be a new day, everybody, new day, new news,

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Speaker 2: new stuff going on. And yes, indeed, I think Selena's book,

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Speaker 2: by the Way, is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be I'm gonna be reading it. I

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Speaker 1: got a copy of right here.

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Speaker 2: She's always done great at work, and she's also a

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Speaker 2: really nice lady.

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Speaker 4: And she is basically writing the first draft of history

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Speaker 4: because she was there, eyewitnessed to experience what happened in Butler.

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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you generations that we know not of

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Speaker 4: are going to be reading about that day and going

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Speaker 4: to be impressed by it and inspired by it.

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Speaker 1: I really do believe.

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Speaker 4: All right, tomorrow you guys can find out who I've

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Speaker 4: been got by.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll reveal it. Russia, China, so who is it?

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Speaker 3: Who is it?

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Speaker 1: We'll have fun tomorrow