1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to and that's what you really 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: missed exclosis closi. I'm Jenna, I am Kevin, and we 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: have UM. I do this every time. What if I 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: was like, we have a bad interview today, if we 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: have something I'm not excited about. But no, we are 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: so like we have a fan favorite here today. We do. Yeah. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: It is the one and only Echball get out for 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: fan cams because Figgins is in the house. And what 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: a sweet man he is. Figgins, My hands are tied, shoe. 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: He's just a wonderful human And it's a warm conversation, 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: warm cozy conversation that's going to make you feel real good. 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: So check it out. Pickba Oh my god, my children, 14 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: my children. Hi, you've guys been man just here doing 15 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: a podcast, you know. Alright, alright, Well, we are so 16 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: happy to have you. Thank you for coming on our 17 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: little show. Um, everybody's very excited to hear from Principal Figgins. 18 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: All right, and you know what's something. As we've been 19 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: going through the show, we have a segment called shit 20 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: we found on TikTok and you are obviously a star 21 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: in real life and on the show. But the kids, 22 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: the kids love yet tell you in twenty twenty three, 23 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: you're hot as ever. There are videos of you everywhere 24 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: because I think you are probably the only unprobablematic character 25 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: most who's going to say that, Like you have to 26 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: be the most diversely right, Yeah, well, I don't know. 27 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: I hide it really well. What can I say? You know, 28 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm a really bad publicist. Yeah, it doesn't let anything out, 29 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: you know, good at that. You know it's in the vault. 30 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: It's all in the vault. Yeah, well, I you know 31 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: I have I have a sixteen year old m and 32 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, all her friends, you know, they're rewatching Glee, 33 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: And I'm just amazed that there's a new generation who 34 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: knows all of us. Yeah, I know, it's crazy, all 35 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: of us. It's like Jennifer Aspen was saying, she has 36 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: a ten year old that she's very embarrassed by her 37 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: mother because all of her you know, friends are watching 38 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: the show. But it's really crazy. Do you feel like, um, 39 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: aside from your kid and they're friends, Like, do you 40 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: feel like going out in the world that you get 41 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: recognized again? Yeah? I mean it was always there, and uh, 42 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's happening. I think you might 43 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: be right. I don't think I I thought about it, 44 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: but I'm you know, you got so used to being 45 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: recognized and you know they want to picture with you 46 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 1: and all that, so that, but it's like that never 47 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: went away from me. But you know when I go 48 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: to like, it doesn't happen. It happens in Los Angeles 49 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: not as frequently as it does. Like when I went 50 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, you know too, this film and that's also 51 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: my ALBUMA Mater by the way, I went the University 52 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma the Sooner. So I don't know that. Yes, 53 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: we have to talk. You were not originally going to 54 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: be an actor, you know, right right, yeah, I'm an 55 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: engineer by Actually, wow, I have a you're too smart 56 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: to be an actor? What happened? How did this happen? 57 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I just want to create easy, 58 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: you know. And I said, I'm just gonna wait tables 59 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: and audition, which is exactly what I did in New 60 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: York and then some in Los Angeles, and wow, here 61 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: we are, you know, Yeah, let's let's talk about that. 62 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Let's how did like we'll get all the way back 63 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: to glee. How did all this start? Well, I mean 64 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: I was in my senior year in uh at the 65 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: University of Oklahoma Boomer Sooner, and I used to hate 66 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: my major and but then it wasn't really a big 67 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: deal because everyone hates their majors and their jobs. But 68 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: then I had an internship in Oklahma City in my 69 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: senior year, which is part of a you know, a program, 70 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, you get credit for it. You've got out 71 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: an industry, find yourself a job in the construction industry, 72 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: and you get credit for it. You work for one summer, 73 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: which I did, and I think the first day, you know, 74 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: on the job, I said, oh my god, this is 75 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: getting at all serious, because that's when you actually realize, 76 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: oh shit, this is oh my god, you know, because 77 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: everyone was winning. It was like those heavy duty shoes 78 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: and I was there in my darksiders, you know, those 79 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: boat shoes, those fancy had the fat boy you know, 80 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: I looked like a frat boy, and they all, I'm 81 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: making fun of me, and I couldn't understand why, because 82 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: I thought I looked so cool, you know, I mean, 83 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: they got they scared the shit out of you, and 84 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: I scared you. They scared you into becoming an actor. 85 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: And then, you know, you go for lunch with those 86 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: guys and I say, oh my god, you know these 87 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: are not my people. You know, shared was the glamour 88 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: now now, had you ever thought about acting with more enjoyed? Even? 89 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: The thought never crossed my mind. I am not kidding you. 90 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: And I and I said, okay, so I'm I'm just 91 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: gonna do something else. I said, thought, okay, I'm going 92 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: to go back to school, maybe study philosophy, because I'm 93 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: so smart and you know, intellectual, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, 94 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: And so thinking along those lines. And this friend of 95 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: mine came to the restaurant I worked in, you know, 96 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I was a waiter, you know, and they had a 97 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: happy hour and we used to sort of you know, 98 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: drinks to miners. You know, all you had to do 99 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: is bring an ID. It could be your dad's, your mom's, 100 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: or whoever. Yeah, exactly. And this friend of mine, Mary, 101 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: she was a drama major at the University of Oklahoma, 102 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: and she said, come to see me in a place. 103 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: So see that play there. There's a nol Coward play. 104 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: And I saw it, and you know, the moment that 105 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: curtain you know, went up and I said, oh my god, 106 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: this is this is interesting. And I was so drawn 107 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: to it so that I went back to the theater, 108 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: made friends with with the actors, and and there were 109 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, actors who came who had 110 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: been to New York and LA did the like the 111 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: waiting tables and you know, audition and theater and all that, 112 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: and they were all, you know, so most of them 113 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: were heartbroken and say, oh my god, it's so odd 114 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: it call don't do it, turnt it. But I said, 115 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: little god, you know, it's like I want to give 116 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: it a try. So I said, okay, I'm gonna go 117 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: back to school, you know, drama school, take acting, one 118 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: voice in diction and you know history of drama, dramatic literatship, 119 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: all that. And I took that and half into the semester, 120 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I was doing a scene with my friend Shelley Lyttle, 121 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: and it just hit me. You know, it was like 122 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: in the gut, you know, nothing to do with brains, 123 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, because if you have brains, you won't become 124 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: an actor, right exactly, Yeah, yeah, it's not. And you know, 125 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: I said, and I called my friend, I go back home, 126 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, to my apartment and I called my one 127 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: of my close friends and I said, hey, I'm an actor. 128 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: It's what are you going to do? I said, I'll 129 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: just you know, study acting for like, I don't know, 130 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: do three years. And then I go to New York 131 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: and bit tables and he goes, you're serious. I say, yeah, 132 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: that's a plan. And that's what I did. And you know, 133 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: I paid my dues. I went through all the typical 134 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, like active thing, missing meals and you know, 135 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean you were by 136 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: working at a restaurant. Yeah. I was a waiter every 137 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: where I went, of course, you know. So I you know, 138 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: I spent a year in New York and moved to 139 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: LA in ninety one. There was like thirty one years ago. 140 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: Got my sad card in ninety two, and I think 141 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: I got you your sad card commercial. Okay, you have 142 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: to google this. It's on YouTube. Somebody actually put it. 143 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: I pulcher first job, part our first job, and I'm 144 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: singing in BIG's voice, you know, for a warehouse. There 145 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: was a video and cassette store. It was called Warehouse. 146 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, w h E R it's no more. And 147 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: during the audition. You know, they said, sing your favorite song, 148 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: and I say, can I sing too? Sure? So I 149 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: sang this this song? Cat it in a track yet 150 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: And I, honest to god, I always had trouble understanding 151 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, English language songs. Yeah, and I thought he 152 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: was saying, I'm calling a cab. I can't walk out 153 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: because and it made perfect sense. I said, you know, 154 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: guys drunk, he's being a responsible citizen. He's calling a cab, 155 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: so he's not going to walk out. And because he 156 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: loves you, baby, you know, I sense that's what I said. 157 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: Honest God, I said, I'm calling the and I was 158 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: so and they died laughing. One of the producers you know, 159 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: fell fell off his chair and I didn't know why 160 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: were they laughing? And after I got and then I 161 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: sang my, you know in my beg's voice, you know, 162 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: one of the beg's song. And they hired me. And 163 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: they are like twenty or thirty different people to sing, 164 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, and they've picked like they shot all of us, 165 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, our songs, and then they you know, picked 166 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: say except those you know commercial thirty seconds long. And 167 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: I was one of them. And the director came to 168 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: it that they said, Paul, you know, you know, you 169 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: know when you sang that song I'm called Cook And 170 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: he said yeah, and he goes, I'm caught in a drap. 171 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: It's not ony hood, Oh my god. And you know 172 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: it's so it sounds so stupid, but I actually believed it. 173 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: You know. That's that's why you were just committed. You 174 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: were committed that. That's a great lesson in acting. Just 175 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: just commit to the bit. You know. I was the 176 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: best year because I did a pilot for NBC, a 177 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: couple of commercials, and by the end, you know, I 178 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: was ready to quit my day job. Wow, in January 179 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five, I quit my daytime job. Nervous League. Yeah, yeah, No, 180 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: we lived in a state of limbo all the time. 181 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: So you're just so since then, I haven't done anything else, 182 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: but just you know, back then, just like I don't 183 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: know how I can be a bottom, you know, yeah, 184 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: writing that momentum. Yeah, when you got the audition for Glee, 185 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: um often. You know, I'm sure you've been asked about 186 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: this a million times. We've been asked about it a 187 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: million times, and people are always sort of disappointed. When 188 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: I was like it was a normal audition. We auditioned 189 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: all the time, and you don't get most things. And like, 190 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: for me reading it, I was like, oh, this is 191 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: actually because think of all the things you auditioned for 192 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: it that like aren't great and put it nicely and 193 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: this script is obviously quite funny and can you read 194 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, this is the needle in the 195 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: haystack sort of thing, but probably won't get this either. 196 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: What was that like moment for you? And did you 197 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: know had you worked with Ryan, Like did you have 198 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: any relationship to Ryan Brad and Ian pre Yeah? Yeah, 199 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Ryan and Brad Falcheck you know they did uh what 200 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: does the show niptop? Yeah? Niptops? Ye did an episode 201 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: for them, that's right. And apparently you know, they liked 202 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: what I did, and um, and you know, I think 203 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Ryan or Brad wob 204 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: or somebody say bring Paul for this, you know, and 205 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: they were all in and I walked in the room, 206 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, and they were all all of them were 207 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: Caucasian actors and reading for the same role. And I 208 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: was the only one. Oh wow. But that never really 209 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, bothered me anywhere, even at the beginning back 210 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: in you know, ninety two or whatever. You know, I started, yeah, 211 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: wait for it. And you know, it was like, people said, 212 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: did you do anything special? How did you get it? 213 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: I said, I did the same thing I do all 214 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: the time, I had been doing for years. If it 215 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: ain't broke it was. But I did say, I remember 216 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: to my wife that, you know, this is such a 217 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: great script. It made me laugh. You know, it really 218 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: touched my heart. And I said, I hope I get it. 219 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: And I sure enough next day they called and they said, okay, 220 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: you know for sures, you know, so cool. And you know, 221 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't up until I saw the preview of the 222 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: pilot when it hit me how good the show was, 223 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, and I and I saw and when we 224 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: went back for you know, when to shoot more, you know, 225 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: and I told Matthew, I said, oh my god, I 226 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: think you this is incredible. You know, it's just the 227 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: best thing you probably ever do, you know, right, which 228 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: which is so true. And then achievement, when did you 229 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: We haven't gone to that yet in the show, but 230 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: I just you wrapped my jog my memory. Um so 231 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: when did you start feeling the the momentum of like 232 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: the hit My manager called me because he shows. Somehow 233 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: I was able to, you know, see the pilot and 234 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: we all went to that premiere. You know, I'm sure 235 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: you remember, right, you know, at some school literally it 236 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: was a school, I think, you know, yeah, yeah, And 237 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: he was there and he saw it and he came 238 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: to me and said, Paul, kids are going to eat 239 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: it up. This is great. And I, you know, and 240 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: I was in it, like like after you see something 241 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: that you've done, because you we do so many you know, 242 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: shows and places and whatnot. But this was the thing, 243 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, I saw it and you know, especially in 244 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: the pilot towards the end, when you sing you know, 245 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: the Journey song, all the Jenna and you know, Corey, everybody, 246 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: it's like I was in a trance. I walked out. 247 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: It's like it stays with you, you know, it stayed 248 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, and it just became kind of part 249 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: of me. And I felt so elevated and energized and 250 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: so hopeful and so bright and happy. I said, you know, 251 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm feeling this way. I I don't think I've done 252 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: anything like that that made me feel this way. And 253 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: I you know, and I had a chat with my 254 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: manager and my friends and from then on it was 255 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: just like this amazing ride you know, the next few years, 256 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, and it you know, changed my life. I know, 257 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: it came probably everybody's life who was on the show. Yeah, 258 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: you know, because I like I used to get recognized 259 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: and everything. You know, even before that I was I 260 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: had worked a lot, you know, Jane, me and a 261 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: couple other people, Jame I, you know, but this was different. 262 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: It put me on a different level, you know, in 263 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: every which way. M hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it definitely changed. 264 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean all of our lives. We were just so 265 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: young that like it was like all of our you know, 266 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: our first big break, and you know, we had done 267 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: an all of us had kind of done a little 268 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: bit here and there, but like, you know, nothing that 269 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: would make us incredibly recognize it. Yeah. And I think 270 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: like your character too, is like did you get people 271 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: shouting principal thinkings at you in the streets and things 272 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, Like I feel like because people probably 273 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: felt overly comfortable with you because you're also just you 274 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: come off in person, You're like the warmest, most loving person. 275 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: And then I also think principal figins despite making some 276 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: questionable choices. Yeah, it's also very very warm. Still, I'm so, 277 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: did people come up to you and feel like they, 278 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: you know, have permission to Yeah, like you know they 279 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: know you and you know, yeah remember me and when 280 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Max we went to that dimension what was it in England? 281 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and you know when like you know, 282 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: we did we used to do these sessions, you know 283 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: where all these people would come and have a pictures 284 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: taken with us. Yea, And I was you know, getting 285 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, and I was saying, Max, why why are 286 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: why are they hugging you? So you know, I mean 287 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: I can understand, you know if somebody heggs like you know, 288 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: Kevin or Jena, you know, young people, but you are 289 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: a favorite, you are a fan favorite, and then realize 290 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: that they just feel so comfortable, like like you wouldn't 291 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: go to a stranger and just like really because you're 292 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: you're that that teacher, that principle that people look good. 293 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: And also like we join you know you when we 294 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: were watching as Jane would call an appointment television. Um, 295 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: there's something very intimate about people in their pajamas or 296 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: their underwear or whatever it is that they're doing watching 297 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: our you know, in their living room with like their 298 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: bowl of ice cream. It's so intimate and you you 299 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: grow with these characters and you feel like you know them, 300 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: and um, people get very attached in a very um 301 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: different way, you know what, especially when you had like 302 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: broadcast television when it was twenty five, you know, twenty two, 303 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: twenty three episodes versus the quick eight to ten and 304 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, maybe one or two seasons. So I also 305 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: think there's something about Jama mentioned this and Jenna, you 306 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: and I haven't really talked about this too much, but 307 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: like Eightball, you were saying, you have a sixteen year 308 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: old and they're all rewatching Glee or a lot of 309 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: them are watching it for the first time. But when 310 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: the show was initially on, the demographic was all over 311 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: the place, like it was from sixteen year olds to 312 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: seventy eight year olds. And I think we were all 313 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: perplexed by that. I think Fox was perplexed by that, 314 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: and we went on tour. They were very perplexed by 315 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: that because they thought it was going to be like 316 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: a one direction concert with a bunch of teens and 317 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: it was just four as adults. Yeah, grown people, and 318 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: so people would watch with kids would watch with their parents, 319 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: with their grandparents. And I think that extra layer of bond, 320 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: familial bond also made people react really strongly to us 321 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: because it wasn't just it was appointment television. Plus this 322 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: is you know, a way for me to connect to 323 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: my parent. And I think what Figgins was was that 324 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: like central point, that safe character that everyone just loved. Like, 325 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: we can't talk about Figgins on the show without being 326 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: like Figins every single time. You bring that excitement out 327 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: of us. Still, how was it when you I and 328 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: Jenna you can I think Jenna probably agrees with this 329 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: rewatching these episodes, the the scenes in your office with 330 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: Jane and Matt are every single time a master class 331 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: and comedic acting. And how was that for you? You're 332 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: dynamic of because that started in the pilot and it 333 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: happened almost every single episode. So how did you know, 334 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: what did you look forward to that, what were those 335 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: the dynamic and how did you just not laugh the 336 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: entire time or do like you know when we did 337 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: camera rearssault and I would laugh my ass off, you know, 338 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: I would just go the oh. I was just like 339 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: and then once she began to you know, shoot the scene, 340 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: and I was somehow I don't know, a miracle like 341 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: looking at Jane's I like that and still and she's 342 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, being so hysterical and saying the most like stupidest, 343 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: weirdest incredulous things, you know. Yeah, yeah, and you know, 344 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't think we blew that many takes, you know, 345 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: but of course, you know, they were occasions when we 346 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: would just you know, special occasion, but Jane just had 347 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: these crazy rands and you're like, I would always be 348 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: so nervous too because I don't want to mess up 349 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: a take for her, because she'd have these like wild 350 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: monologues you guys got to play, you know, a year 351 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: that could react and get you know, caught up in 352 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: her crazy shit. She was saying, yeah, and sometimes you 353 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: would improvise and you know, if it came, you know, 354 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: and you know, at least one one instance where like 355 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: they kept you know what I was doing. You know, 356 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure that what others as well, was not the children? 357 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: Was that ad lib? Yeah? It was ad lib? It 358 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: was oh my god. And it just came to me 359 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: when she was like going bur sark and you knowing, 360 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, fun sure threatening, I said, no, not that child. 361 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, one of those that's one of my favorite lines. Yeah, 362 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: I've seen it so funny. Oh, I got so many 363 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: memorable Well, I mean we all do, I think everyone? Yeah? 364 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Everyone does? He dollar sign? Huh? I mean I think 365 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: you're saying that with a straight face. Was a talented thing. 366 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: You know what was always so enjoyable when we had 367 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: the gym scenes the performances and you would always start 368 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: with you at a mike and just like drolling on 369 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: welcome everybody. Yes, And it's really wild to watch someone 370 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: like you, who is not that at all in real life, 371 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: and then get up there and see sort of this 372 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: like comedic genius of you know, presenting to an entire 373 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: gym full of people and then completely lose it during 374 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: our performances and things like that. It was oh my god, 375 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: oh one of my It was always it felt like 376 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: an honor to enter Principal Figgin's office. Like we didn't 377 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: get a ton of scenes in there, but Kevin and 378 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: I had one in that episode where we both were 379 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: running for class president. Was that what it was? And 380 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: the other one was one, um Figgins is scared of vampires. 381 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's scene you know between me and Jenna. 382 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: Oh god, oh my gosh, I was one of my 383 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: favorites to shoot. Is just so funny and ridiculous, and 384 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: it was my favorite line. That's scene as you know, 385 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: and it wasn't in the script, and I think it 386 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: was probably one of the last stakes. And you know, 387 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: the camera was on me and I'm looking at Jenna 388 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: and when she said I'm gonna rip your head off 389 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: and do la, you know, and then Ryan came to 390 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: me and say, instead of saying this, say I'm afraid 391 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to like it. It's like I'm afraid. 392 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: Ryan kept throwing lines at you and I said, you know, 393 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: and they kept it, and you know, it was so 394 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: imagine like you know this zone as man, I'm afraid 395 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: of vampires, you know, vampires and then like a vampire 396 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: vampire Tina, Oh yeah, like boiled it off. You know 397 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: the guy in the wheel share, you know, there's ancient 398 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: girl who like comes over. Yeah, we're all out of 399 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: our minds. I don't know. I love that, you know, 400 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: knowing now that like we all did got our start 401 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: doing commercials and you had that incredible commercial that yeah 402 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: Figgins had done that Sue found and was backmailing him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 403 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: did you did you feel like you could pull on 404 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: those you know, commercial days. I know how to do this, 405 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: I had done yet. I mean, oh lord, you know, 406 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: because I know back in the nineties, half my incommunter 407 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: came from commercials. And thanks you make so much money 408 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: on commercials yea day, and then you my college tuition. Yeah, yeah, 409 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: it was thank God for that. And you know what 410 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to mention that when I came to Hollywood, 411 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, this is early nineties, there weren't 412 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: that many opportunities for you know, people like me, so 413 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I was not really getting mus traction and I and 414 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: also I thought that, you know, I will never do 415 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: a commercial, like who's going to hire me? I mean 416 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: I have trouble getting it, just like a one line 417 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: part in a sitcom, you know, because when you do 418 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: a commercial, it means that you're selling to America the 419 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: you know. But then you know, I was amazed how 420 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: open minded the commercial casting. It was way more open 421 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: minded then you know, film and especially film and then 422 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: even television. And I did like all kinds of you know, 423 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: serious and funny and weird roles in commercials. So that 424 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: was like one of them. What I did on the 425 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: by airline. You know it sterical, you know, and diambulism. Yes, 426 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: so good. Have you noticed, you're saying, you know, when 427 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: you first came to Hollier in the nineties, there weren't 428 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities. Have you noticed a big shift 429 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: or a big change and that huge huge I mean 430 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: I just did a pilot Hulu and we're hoping that 431 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: you know, it gets pig Yeah, thank you, thank you, 432 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: congratulating yea. So hopefully it gets picked. You know, you'll 433 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: get to see me more often than you know, more 434 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: frequently in my living room. Yes. So the name of 435 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: the creator is Abdullas Seed. I mean, imagine back in 436 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one or ninety two, you know, there was 437 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: no one named last in the industry. That's right. Who 438 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: could like walk into a like a you know, studio 439 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I have an idea. You know, yeah, yeah, 440 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: that's it's you know, so I think especially the South Asians, 441 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, the Indians parties than solve that. You know 442 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: that there are so many shows and in general, I 443 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: think all ethnicities and I know I still run into people, 444 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, of all ethnicities and they're complaining And I said, 445 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: you know things have believed me. This is so much 446 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: better than when I was your age, you know, thirty 447 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: years ago. It was just it was so tough, you know. 448 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean you could get like a one line part, 449 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, but any significant roles. Yeah, you kept going, yeah, 450 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean that's what you know, because you're 451 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: an actor, you don't care. You said, Okay, if I'm 452 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: sixty five years old and you know, eating, you know, 453 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: maybe waiting tables, and you know, I'll be I guess 454 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 1: that's the choice I made. But exactly, but now you know, 455 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: there's so many mean mendicating is around you. I mean, 456 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: mind has a whole empire, yeah empire. And I did 457 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: like a show for her, you know, never have I 458 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: ever you knows that, and so great area something like 459 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: that never existed. So I'm really hopeful and I'm just like, 460 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: I guess, such a rush rush, you know when I 461 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: like see your showl like that, and yeah, it's like hopeful, right, hopeful. Yeah. 462 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: It also feels like that like the show creators like 463 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: Mindy Kaling are also now trying to lift up their communities. 464 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's like absolutely, we have the power. Now, 465 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: let's sort of the Oprah and bring up everybody with us, 466 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: which I feel like is the only way that that 467 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: can happen because and which is really encouraging to see 468 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: because I I have, on the flip side, a lot 469 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: of I wouldn't say close friends, but white friends or 470 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: acquaintances who are actors and who complain right all the 471 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: time about like, well, now every character is any ethnicity 472 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: and race. Right, Oh, I'm sorry, welcome to leveling the 473 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: playing ground. Ye, now everybody's competing for you know. Now 474 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: I remember, you know, I remember I had an acquaintance 475 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: who said something you know to me, And this was 476 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: about like, I don't know, before Glee actually and uh 477 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I used to work, you know, 478 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: make a living at it and h and he said 479 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: something similar to me at that time that, oh, you know, 480 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: like you know, it's like, you know, the likes of me. 481 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, isn't really much as much available 482 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: like you used to and all that. So but I'm 483 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: happy for you. And he said something I don't know, like, 484 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: are we like I work more if I were you? 485 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: He says something like that that I'll work more if 486 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: I were you. I said, you know, if you're me 487 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: with this attitude. You'll be working in a seven to eleven, 488 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: okay with that attitude, because I don't have that attitude. 489 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: I have never blamed ethnicity, right, you know, you know 490 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: I said if I fail, it's my fault. If I don't, 491 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, if I I'm gonna own it. Because and 492 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: also Kevin says something about, you know, people lifting their 493 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: own communities. I think it's not like you know, a 494 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: bunch of you know, black people or Asian people, or 495 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: for that matter, white people get together in a room 496 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: and say, you know, write something something or as Indians 497 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: or Artistan. He's okay, and We're gonna take over Hollywood. 498 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, you right? What you know that's right? And 499 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: things that are familiar to things that like if I 500 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: write something which I'm actually writing, m you know, I 501 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: started to write a few years ago anyway, So you 502 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: write your own truth. Yeah, you know, so ndicating writing 503 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: you know about you know, shows that have opinions in him. 504 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that, you know, because that's her, that 505 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: was a reality majority of her life, you know, getting 506 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: from studios to say by the same token, you know, 507 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not in a habit of talking 508 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: about racism in the industry, you know that much because 509 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: I believe that you do good work, you know, and 510 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: things will change. Well that's why, you know, like Ryan 511 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: Murphy and the time that we were in you know, 512 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands, it was like or you know, 513 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, it was like the things that 514 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: he was doing on his shows, the people he was 515 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: casting on his shows were the underrepresented, the underdogs. Yes, um, 516 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's just a it's a very color said like, 517 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: it's just it was it felt like we were finally 518 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: being given the opportunity in this big hug to be 519 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: but because we were underdogs, and so you know, there's 520 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, even the social issues that Ryan you know, 521 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: talked about in Glee especially, but in all of his shows, 522 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: it's like these things that weren't being highlighted, discussed put 523 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: on television and why we had so many haters on 524 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: our show about our show. But I do I feel 525 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: like the ball's point about, you know, it's not like 526 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: there's some big committee meeting and everyone's plotting to just 527 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: include certain characters or writing what you know, like with 528 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Glee or with any show, just because the people may 529 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: not look like you. The stories and the struggles are 530 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: universally understood and the specifics may differ, right, but you 531 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: know a relationship between a son and a parent, or 532 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: a daughter and a parent, or you know, love interest. 533 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: These things are universal and what makes them special and 534 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: even more unique are those specificities that people can throw 535 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: and when you are able to freely write what you 536 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: know and then also make these characters so much richer 537 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: because like, for example, casting Figgins, you said, everyone else 538 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: there was you know, white and strain for it and 539 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: it's whatever your experience is, what you're going to bring 540 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: to it is what made Figgins, you know, the memorable 541 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: character that everybody still loves. So it's because of who 542 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: you are what that made that character, right, it is 543 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely you know what Jenna said about, you know, 544 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: giving people a chance and also presenting a point of 545 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: view which was not her. Um. I mean, you cannot 546 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: over emphasize the impact Glee had on our society culture. 547 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about you know, USA, all of 548 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: the world thing all over the world, and you know 549 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: there have been shows you know dealing with you know, 550 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: LGBTQ issues. You know there was Lean, there was like 551 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: well Grace, but the kind of you know, popularity yea, 552 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: and love and you know, the action and you know, 553 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: insane response that our show God that lead God was 554 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: just incredible, and I truly believe that it made a 555 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: huge difference in our society. Really that should change, you know, 556 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: attitudes of people, how they look at you gay people people. 557 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: It really did the way no other show has done before, 558 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm so proud that, you know, I 559 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: was able to you know, I was part of the show, 560 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: and I will forever be you know, you get it. 561 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: Ryan and Brad and you know, Ian everybody you know 562 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: or give me the opportunity to be part of this, 563 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, this phenomena. Do you have a favorite moment 564 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: of being only said? I think my favorite moment I 565 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: think winning the SAG Award in the first you know, 566 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: I think the first one we've got, the you know, 567 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: the Ensemble Award. That was a really special day in 568 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: my life because, uh because success didn't really come to 569 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: me immediately. It like like majority of the actors you 570 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: know who starting their early twenties and late teens and 571 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: then you know go on and ye see, it took 572 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: you know, quite a while. Uh So I really appreciated it, 573 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: you know because I was not really treated like that, 574 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I was stutted well, but like 575 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: after clear, it was just yeah, differently, you know, in 576 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: a better I made it in a better in a sense, um, 577 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: so that I think that day was so special, you know, 578 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: in the award and then we all went backstage and 579 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: you know, I did the interviews and so you know, 580 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: and we walked in. I remember, you know, all these 581 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: like people from the media were sitting and they were 582 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: also quiet, and I said, what quiet. It's true, there's 583 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: so many of us too. I think the thing about 584 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: the SAG Award, which felt like it's really special was 585 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: that it was so inclusive of our whole cast, like 586 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: it's huge and your guest stars and refers, like we 587 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: all were included in the same way because you know, 588 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: SAG that's what they do, Like this is our peers, 589 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 1: this is it takes a village to create a show 590 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: like that. So big or small, that was, um it 591 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: felt really nice to be with everybody. Yeah, definitely. And 592 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: also you know, get a trophy because obviously like heavy 593 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: Marble Man like the show I think won a Golden 594 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: Globe like a week or two before this, But we 595 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: don't get those trophies. So we get this. We're super 596 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: heavy marble man, that's right. Yeah. Um, And before we 597 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: let you go, I say with this to everybody, We're 598 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: never letting you go. Um. What is the feeling that 599 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: Glee leaves you with when you look back on it? Glee? 600 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: That's it? You know it really? Uh, that's just you know, 601 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: one word, but I think I don't think it is 602 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: any of the word that. Yeah, that that that says 603 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: that all it really does? You know, you go wrong 604 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: with that. You know. It's just like that moment when 605 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: you kind of know what life means or should mean, 606 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: and you yeah, and you think that that it's achievable. 607 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: You know, it's doable. You know there's hope in it 608 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: is you know, right, because I like, you know, pieces 609 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: of work that you know give you hope. And that's 610 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: all Glee. Did you know the characters struggled with everything. 611 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's already in the wheelchair and then you know, 612 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: and us with our necessities and whatnot, sexual preference is 613 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: mh you know whatever, you know, but it gave us 614 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: hope that you know, it's it, we can change it, 615 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: and I think we did in a little way. Yeah, 616 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: we feel you. Yeah, that wastiful well said, you're the best. 617 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: Good to see you. We just want you to know 618 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: how much when people talk about the podcast and write 619 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: in how much they love Figgins, they love you. They 620 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: love Figins, We love you. We really appreciate you coming 621 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: on and spending time with us and you know, sharing 622 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: your story and also good luck. I hope the pilot 623 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: gets picked up fingers yes, if not more it Al's 624 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: always working. There's something we should all be. Good to 625 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: see you, so good to see you. What a sweet gem. 626 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 1: He's so sweet. We love it Ball so much for 627 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: coming on here, because we couldn't be more grateful to 628 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: have such a light. All of our guests are just lights. 629 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: It's really nice. I feel privilege that we if there's 630 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: anybody like listening to this podcast who has not seen 631 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: interviews with any of our guests or anything like that, 632 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: that that we can show people how wonderful all these 633 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: people are. Because yeah, yeah, yeah, there was something he 634 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: said that really struck me at the end when you 635 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: asked him, you know what gleeman to him, and he 636 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: was saying how it sort of was like what life 637 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: is supposed to be. And I was thinking about how 638 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: I always felt like driving through those beautiful gates at Paramount, 639 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: going to work with everyone I loved so much, getting 640 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: to sing, getting to act, getting to dance, getting to 641 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 1: be stupid with crew and cast in every single department 642 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: every day. It was long, hard work, but it felt 643 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: so good. It felt really rewarding to do that and 644 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: also then have it received do something that you work 645 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: so hard on and care about so deeply, and then 646 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: haven't you. I mean, it's so hard to get a 647 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: job and that you love, yeah, astronomical way well, and 648 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: also like a job that's like changing lives, Like especially 649 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,959 Speaker 1: in the arts, Like there's so much crap out there 650 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: that like people are just crap, create content, and I'm 651 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: like to have something that means so much to people still, um, 652 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: and to feel like you're a part of that, Like 653 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: something bigger than yourself is so profound in your life. 654 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: To do like such a large part of our you know, 655 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: life in our twenties especially, felt like very profound. And 656 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: it's why like I don't talk about this a lot, 657 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: but like, um, people, for people who don't know, I'm 658 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: a crier. I am an emotional, happy, tears crier. And 659 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: that's kind of why Tina cried so much in those 660 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: later season was because they used to laugh at me. 661 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 1: They'd be like, Jenna, why are you crying again? I'd 662 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: literally watch a trailer I still watch the show and cry, 663 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: like if you I see I'd see something and be like, guys, 664 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: do you understand? Like it just hits me so long hard, 665 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: and it's it makes me emotional because it's, um, it's 666 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: a feeling that you is like almost inexplicable in some ways, 667 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: like it's just so deep and I don't know, it's 668 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: just like the passion is always there and it's it's um, 669 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: it's what keeps you kind of like the fire that 670 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: keeps you going, especially in your twenties, and you're like 671 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: so hungry right like it's it was, um, I had 672 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: so much fire back then. I don't know what happened 673 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: to it all, but it's like a foot's like I 674 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: need some flu powder or something now. But anyway, it's weird. 675 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: I think we're I don't know. Eightball said it the best, 676 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: and we're just so grateful that he came on to 677 00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: shares experience and yeah, yes, thanks Sichball, so great to 678 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: have you, don't guys, don't forget that Alexander House is 679 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: doing a walkathon on March eighteenth. If you can't be there, 680 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: if you're not in no way, you can also donate 681 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: and go to Alexander House dot org to check it 682 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: out and support. 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