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Speaker 2: Hey, friends, we're back and we're live. We are here,
Speaker 2: live together. Robert Hello, Hello, Hello, We're in Wilmington.
Speaker 4: What is special about Wilmington?
Speaker 2: You know what's the most special at Wilmington Checkers.
Speaker 3: No, it's not Checkers food.
Speaker 2: Well, today it is that we are at a wintre
Speaker 2: Hill convention and we get to see all of our
Speaker 2: friends as we do every year. It's like a family reunion.
Speaker 2: But one of my favorite things is being able to
Speaker 2: see family members that we don't always get to connect with.
Speaker 2: And for me, one of the people I always seem
Speaker 2: to miss whenever we come into town is Barry corbyin
Speaker 2: and we finally got him. He's finally here to talk
Speaker 2: with us about his life and experience and about One
Speaker 2: Tree Hill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome Barry.
Speaker 5: Welcome, thank you, thank you for having me, and we're
Speaker 5: going to have a good time here.
Speaker 2: What was your first job, like professional gig? I feel
Speaker 2: like maybe you told so for those listeners who don't know,
Speaker 2: Barry's got this. It's a one man show, really right
Speaker 2: that you're just talking about the stories of your life
Speaker 2: and career and he's doing this show. He's testing it
Speaker 2: out in different markets around the country and you I
Speaker 2: was at the first one that you ever did in Texas.
Speaker 2: And I don't remember if you talked about this in
Speaker 2: particular story like the first job that you ever got,
Speaker 2: but would you remind me if you did tell it.
Speaker 5: Any very first job that was actually not you know,
Speaker 5: I used to put on a little plays that I
Speaker 5: wrote and directed with my brother and sister. They didn't
Speaker 5: want to do it. They oh no, they were both
Speaker 5: younger than I am, and uh so I'd put these
Speaker 5: plays on that and I'd start. I'd charge a penny
Speaker 5: of peace for anybody to come in to watch, and
Speaker 5: then pretty ship, before too long, I'm up to a
Speaker 5: nickel and then I think, well, this is worth a dime,
Speaker 5: and so I'd charge a dime and then uh, who.
Speaker 4: Are you getting besides.
Speaker 5: Neighborhood kids, my parents, my grandparents, yeah, anybody, any relative.
Speaker 5: I'd broke them in, make them pay me a dime
Speaker 5: to do the play. And I'd do it at any time.
Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't like I was. I'd have a
Speaker 5: time to do it. If if I could get a
Speaker 5: crowd together, you know, like five or six people wouldn't
Speaker 5: do a play.
Speaker 2: Then you'd have to find actual at some point, you
Speaker 2: had to find an actual director and producer and people
Speaker 2: who were going to hire you and say, you know what,
Speaker 2: you come do our thing.
Speaker 5: Well I did that the Colorado Shakespeare Festival all right
Speaker 5: in uh in Boulder, Colorado, and it was that was
Speaker 5: the first time I was in a uh A festival
Speaker 5: plays that played in in repertory. You know, we do
Speaker 5: Henry the Fifth one day and King John the next day,
Speaker 5: and as you like it the next day, and then
Speaker 5: go in and rep like that. So uh you know,
Speaker 5: you had to remember what play you were doing, so
Speaker 5: you put on the right costume to start.
Speaker 2: With, he comes out of his pocket, go out and.
Speaker 5: Do the play. You know. I always managed to to
Speaker 5: know we were doing troil Is and crested the night
Speaker 5: and we were doing doing King John and next night
Speaker 5: and uh it was it was fun, you know. But
Speaker 5: I was also working on a ranch in the daytime
Speaker 5: because he weren't taying me enough to live. Really, I
Speaker 5: was really living on cornmeal and mashed up and fried
Speaker 5: in the oil.
Speaker 2: Wait this, you're like every young girl's dream man. You
Speaker 2: worked on a ranch during the day and you did
Speaker 2: Shakespeare by night.
Speaker 6: That's right, word shirtless sunshine.
Speaker 5: I also also studied, uh ballet. What there was a
Speaker 5: man there, there was an oil man in love but
Speaker 5: whose daughter wanted to be a ballerina. He was a
Speaker 5: very rich guy, and much richer than he had brains.
Speaker 5: So he went over and scouted around in eastern Europe
Speaker 5: and found a Lithuanian ballet master by the name of
Speaker 5: Eugene Banzavisius and hired him to come over and live
Speaker 5: in Lubbock and open a ballet studio. He was an
Speaker 5: old man. He'd been a he'd been at ballet dancer
Speaker 5: when he was younger, and he but he was probably
Speaker 5: it was not old to me now, but he was
Speaker 5: probably sixty years old again. And uh, he'd he'd go
Speaker 5: out and demonstrate things and how you how you how
Speaker 5: you did you know? And and he couldn't find anybody
Speaker 5: that lift the girls in the boys because the boys
Speaker 5: were all slight and they I was working on oil
Speaker 5: rigs at so I was strong and I could lift
Speaker 5: the girls, and I could also do these.
Speaker 2: The gesticulations for the listener at home.
Speaker 4: Barry is performing many a graceful, gorgeous.
Speaker 5: Played prayed played the prench in Swan Lake. You did,
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was. I was. I'm real pistol.
Speaker 2: Them off with a stick.
Speaker 4: I was going to you as a young man.
Speaker 6: Sounds like if the c W had a show about
Speaker 6: like living on a Ranch, you would have been the
Speaker 6: like hot, heartwarming Lucas Scott.
Speaker 5: I would have been the outcast, even more likable online,
Speaker 5: I can I can fit in with ranch people. I'm
Speaker 5: going once in a while I go out to a
Speaker 5: ranch and help them get the cattle. Yeah, just prove
Speaker 5: that I can still get on a horse and still.
Speaker 2: Well, you were just on Yellowstone not two years ago.
Speaker 5: Well, I was out to four six in ranch last year.
Speaker 5: I helped to gather cattle. I said, I might need
Speaker 5: a little help getting up, but once I get on,
Speaker 5: I know what I'm doing. Something. I went out there
Speaker 5: and they shoved me up on a horse and I
Speaker 5: was horse back for about about six and a half hours.
Speaker 5: What and we're going out together and cattle bringing the
Speaker 5: cattle in. Then I worked the cattle and then I
Speaker 5: got back to the the place where we started and
Speaker 5: got the cattle pinned and everything. And then I called
Speaker 5: this cowboy over theng guy about six foot five, and
Speaker 5: I said, I said, I want you to stand right here,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to fall off his horse and you
Speaker 5: catch me. And so that's what I did, and then
Speaker 5: he caught me.
Speaker 6: You are of the generation where when you say like
Speaker 6: a jack of all trades, they're actually legitimate trades. Like
Speaker 6: you are you you have experience and the ability to
Speaker 6: like actually perform job functions and useful things.
Speaker 4: Whereas like my generation, like I'm a jack of all trades.
Speaker 6: It's like I can hacky sack, I co host a
Speaker 6: podcast and I play make Believe.
Speaker 5: Well. I used to do almost anything.
Speaker 2: I believe it now.
Speaker 5: Uh. When I turned six, Yeah, I forgot about half
Speaker 5: of what I ever knew. When I turned seventy, I
Speaker 5: lost about a quarter more of that. When I turned eighty,
Speaker 5: I forgot anything. Had to hit my marks and change
Speaker 5: my lines. I don't even know how to run anymore.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Brett, you are, you're so versatile. How did that?
Speaker 2: How did that translate into into basketball? When you were
Speaker 2: asked to come play coach Whitey on one Truth?
Speaker 5: Yes, well apparently, and all those boys saw every old
Speaker 5: man in California and they couldn't find anybody. It was
Speaker 5: tough that they were happening, happy with it to be
Speaker 5: the coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I guess they expanded. Maybe they saw people over
Speaker 5: in Arizona too, I don't know. But they finally called
Speaker 5: my manager and said, would Barry Corbin come into town
Speaker 5: and talk to us about a part in our television
Speaker 5: show One Tree Hill. And he called me and I said,
Speaker 5: are they paying the way? He said yeah? And I
Speaker 5: said they're going to put me in the hotel and
Speaker 5: give me a rent car? He said yeah. I said,
Speaker 5: all right, I'll be there. There's that kind of thing
Speaker 5: that all ate gents have.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 5: It's your line of what I call shaker and bs sure,
Speaker 5: and I've got that in Spade. I mean, it's something
Speaker 5: that I learned from New York agents when I was
Speaker 5: in New York.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say because that's not that doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like a vibe that would be on a ranch a lot.
Speaker 2: It seems like a New York you gotta yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I sat in and uh and just bluffed
Speaker 5: talk to them. I never mentioned I've never seen a
Speaker 5: basketball game. Yes, I know you mentioned that. I knew
Speaker 5: nothing about basketball except your bounce this ball around and
Speaker 5: trying to get it over here and try to get
Speaker 5: into it. I don't, but I never cared anything about that.
Speaker 6: Which is so funny about that is that you did
Speaker 6: the opposite of what most actors do.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: There's the thing actors do when they're like up for
Speaker 6: a job, like especially commercial acting. I'll be like, great,
Speaker 6: we're only gonna audition you if you can ride a horse,
Speaker 6: and every actor goes, I can ride a horse.
Speaker 5: That's the last thing that you ought to say. Yeah,
Speaker 5: what what you ought to say? And what Ben Johnson
Speaker 5: always said. Ben Johnson was the best horseman in the movies.
Speaker 5: He see, yeah, I ride a little bit. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: that's what you that's what you need to say. Now,
Speaker 5: I've got a story about a guy who who.
Speaker 6: It was your wife just shook her head in the background,
Speaker 6: which makes me think this is going to be a
Speaker 6: good thing.
Speaker 5: It is. It is a good story. She doesn't know
Speaker 5: this story really, but this was a fellow that was
Speaker 5: that he told him he could ride. And I was
Speaker 5: playing the bad guy in this thing, in this Magnificent seven.
Speaker 5: It was it was not it was not the movie.
Speaker 5: It was a television cheeri and I was playing the
Speaker 5: bad guy in this episode. And I had a There
Speaker 5: was one scene where we're chasing a wagon and me
Speaker 5: and my gang and my accomplished the head of my
Speaker 5: uh you know, my operation. I was running a body house.
Speaker 5: Uh but it was like a traveling body house, a
Speaker 5: bunch of tents and uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, just clarifying.
Speaker 5: And I was being made to the girls and all that, okay,
Speaker 5: But they were trying to trying to rescue the girls
Speaker 5: from men. They had them all in this wagon. So
Speaker 5: I got my gang together and I'm out and we're
Speaker 5: out horseback. We got to come off a hill and
Speaker 5: run down this hill and run beside the wagon. The
Speaker 5: camera car on the other side of the wagon. They're
Speaker 5: shooting across the driver on onto us chasing the wagon
Speaker 5: and uh, my uh head henchman has said he could ride,
Speaker 5: and uh, I watched him walk up to the horse
Speaker 5: and that wasn't going to work. And uh, I said,
Speaker 5: you know, he might really ought to be doubled in
Speaker 5: this scene. And he said, what do you mean. I said, well,
Speaker 5: we're going to come off this hill and I'm going
Speaker 5: to have to be riding pretty fast catch this wagon
Speaker 5: because he's running pretty fast and we're pretty far behind,
Speaker 5: so I'm going to have to really give him a
Speaker 5: little little nudge.
Speaker 2: And you know your horse.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm not sure that you want to do
Speaker 5: that and he said, oh no, no, it'll be it'll
Speaker 5: be fine, and it'll be good. All right. We'll stay
Speaker 5: behind me, don't get in front of me because I
Speaker 5: can't help you if you're in front of me. And
Speaker 5: the okay, so here we come. We did did a
Speaker 5: half half speed rehearsal. You know, you come off kind
Speaker 5: of just a little little past trot, a little lope
Speaker 5: down the hill. That's okay. He did fine. I said, okay,
Speaker 5: now this is going to be a picture here and
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of put the steel to him,
Speaker 5: so be ready, I said, okay, I said, now remember
Speaker 5: what they told you. You want to you want to
Speaker 5: hold the reins in your left hand and you hold
Speaker 5: them the tail of the reins because you're gonna have
Speaker 5: to do something with your other hand with and your
Speaker 5: in your right hand, and you just kind of pretend
Speaker 5: to be whipping your horse. Don't do it, but just
Speaker 5: kind of pretend to do it, just to give you
Speaker 5: something to do. Well, I knew that wasn't gonna work.
Speaker 5: But what happened was I I got to gave my
Speaker 5: horse spur and he jumped off, and he started running
Speaker 5: down that hill you know, pretty fast.
Speaker 2: Especially to horses going downhill, And I.
Speaker 5: Said, stay stayed behind me. Well, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I heard this thundering noise coming up to my right
Speaker 5: wagons to my left. I kind of glanced over there,
Speaker 5: and this guy is sitting up there and he's got
Speaker 5: shaddle horn like that with both hands. Oh, rains are
Speaker 5: flopping side. That horse is run away. He's got his
Speaker 5: head stuck out in front of him, and he was
Speaker 5: we're in seeing me valley. I thought he was going
Speaker 5: to be in Los Angeles downtown before I could catch him.
Speaker 5: I mean, he was going, but he was on flat
Speaker 5: out run away.
Speaker 2: Sure. He had a terrified expression on his face.
Speaker 4: Oh oh.
Speaker 5: His eyes were bugging out of his head, and he.
Speaker 6: Scario, Yeah, scream of the school does not make for
Speaker 6: the best henchman.
Speaker 5: They said, cut. And then now I saw. I saw
Speaker 5: two wranglers down there behind two trees, and he was
Speaker 5: going right between those trees, and they came out and
Speaker 5: stopped his horse. My gosh, But I told him then,
Speaker 5: I said, you know, anytime you have to ride pasted
Speaker 5: a walk, get a double.
Speaker 4: Get a double.
Speaker 2: Well, you didn't need a double, as coach White, even
Speaker 2: though you knew nothing about basketball.
Speaker 5: But what I did this was this was the middle
Speaker 5: of March madness when they when I went and talked
Speaker 5: to him.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I.
Speaker 5: Came home and went to my favorite bar, sat there
Speaker 5: drinking beer and watching basketball. But I wasn't watching the players.
Speaker 5: I was watching the coaches. Yeah, and they all looked
Speaker 5: like they had their cholesterol sticking out of their ears,
Speaker 5: and they were screaming and carrying on hollering. I thought, well,
Speaker 5: nobody can live past thirty five if they're going to
Speaker 5: be act that way all the time. So I decided, well,
Speaker 5: this coach is going to be kind of like Yoda
Speaker 5: off the court, but on the court, he's going to
Speaker 5: be absolutely the most terrible person in the world. And
Speaker 5: so that's what I did. Wow when I got here,
Speaker 5: when I got here, when I first got here, Yeah,
Speaker 5: the coach that actually put the play together, and I
Speaker 5: forgot his name now, but anyway, he did the one
Speaker 5: with Gene Hackman Hoosiers and well, yeah, but he said,
Speaker 5: do you want to come and watch us run some
Speaker 5: plays in the morning? And I said no, And he said, well,
Speaker 5: if you don't watch us run plays, you're not going
Speaker 5: to know what's happening. I said, I can watch you
Speaker 5: run plays from now Christmas and I still don't want
Speaker 5: to know. But I don't have to know what's happening.
Speaker 5: All I've got to know is is how to look
Speaker 5: like I know what's happening. Yeah, because I've played jet pilots,
Speaker 5: I've played brain surgeons. I've planned all kinds of things.
Speaker 5: But you wouldn't want to get on the plane that
Speaker 5: I'm piloting. You wouldn't want to let me do brain
Speaker 5: surgery on you. You wouldn't want me to do anything.
Speaker 5: You wouldn't want me to fix your plumbing. But I'm
Speaker 5: not you know, I do know how to look like
Speaker 5: I can do anything. Yeah, and he's okay.
Speaker 2: So that's a secret. You just got to set.
Speaker 3: And you got it.
Speaker 5: You gotta look like you know, you know, pilot. You've
Speaker 5: got to know which switches to switch first, and you
Speaker 5: gotta know yeah, old old stuff work, and then it's
Speaker 5: it's easy.
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Speaker 2: This is such a cool idea. I remember us talking
Speaker 2: about this a while ago and we never actually followed
Speaker 2: through that. I'm so glad somebody else did.
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Speaker 2: Had you filmed anything in Wilmington before, Yes, because I
Speaker 2: know there was a lot of things happening in this town,
Speaker 2: especially Yeah.
Speaker 5: I did a movie of the Week with them with
Speaker 5: Dane Lad not not dyinge Cheryl led Cheryl Ladd Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I was I was going to kill her. I
Speaker 5: was killer.
Speaker 2: So was this a show then one of the really
Speaker 2: great like good guy roles that you'd gotten, because it
Speaker 2: sounds like maybe you were cast a lot as the
Speaker 2: villain or.
Speaker 5: The mostly not not bad guy. I'm not really good
Speaker 5: bad guy because I can I don't look really look
Speaker 5: like I'm cruel.
Speaker 6: And if I can jump in here, you you have
Speaker 6: played two of my favorite good guy historical figures, Lyndon
Speaker 6: Johnson and Santa Claus.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: My question is which one did you feel more pressure
Speaker 6: to get right?
Speaker 5: Uh? Well, I knew that it didn't look like Lyndon Johnson,
Speaker 5: and I knew I was I got alopecia, so I
Speaker 5: don't have any hair, So I knew I didn't want
Speaker 5: to wear a wig, so I just wore the hat
Speaker 5: all the time. And I knew I didn't want to
Speaker 5: put on a big nose hanging down over my mouth,
Speaker 5: you know, And I mean that really disrupted my lunch
Speaker 5: real bad. Yeah, So, uh, I just I just kind
Speaker 5: of played I kind of got his voice, you know,
Speaker 5: but I didn't didn't look like him. But this was
Speaker 5: a fictional thing anyway. It was it was about if
Speaker 5: if Kennedy had had not been assassinated, and uh so
Speaker 5: that was that was that, and the Santa Claus thing,
Speaker 5: that was well, I did play play a man playing
Speaker 5: like he was Santa Claus one time. I was in
Speaker 5: Christmas and the smokey I put on a little Santa
Speaker 5: Claus beard hung over my ears and stuff. But the
Speaker 5: Shanta Claus thing was a cartoon, so I could just.
Speaker 4: It's like he's in the rocket.
Speaker 2: Gosh, I was just six years old all over again.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic, that's great.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: So obviously you had been working steadily for so long
Speaker 6: when One Tree Hill came along, and then you were
Speaker 6: on this show with all of these relatively green actors
Speaker 6: and the show becomes a hit. What was it like
Speaker 6: for you, because this wasn't your first go around, But
Speaker 6: what was it like watching these very fresh young actors
Speaker 6: and getting thrown into this big, successful show.
Speaker 5: Well, I knew there were gonna be some mistakes made,
Speaker 5: and I knew that I couldn't I could not warn
Speaker 5: anybody about those mistakes, so I just I pretty much
Speaker 5: acted like the coach with the cash.
Speaker 2: You know you're talking about like just on set mistakes
Speaker 2: of like within filmmaking or what kind of mistakes you're
Speaker 2: talking about, And why did you feel like you.
Speaker 5: Were Well, I knew that they they were to it.
Speaker 5: When you're doing your first television show, you're nervous. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and uh, in order to make you not be nervous,
Speaker 5: it's for me not to be nervous. Yeah, And uh
Speaker 5: so what what I would do? I just I just
Speaker 5: kind of, uh make a little hint of it by Yeah,
Speaker 5: unless somebody just came and asked.
Speaker 2: Me something I wish i'd asked you for more.
Speaker 5: Chad did a few times.
Speaker 2: That's great, and uh.
Speaker 5: Uh I think I helped him. I don't know whether
Speaker 5: I did or not.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you did. So let's talk about Wilmington real quick,
Speaker 2: because you know you had been here once before to film.
Speaker 2: Then you came to to Wilmington and lived here in
Speaker 2: between here and Texas for the ten years that well,
Speaker 2: I guess how many seasons did you do with us?
Speaker 5: Three?
Speaker 6: Six?
Speaker 2: Only three?
Speaker 5: Three?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that blows my mind. Berry. You just
Speaker 2: are such an integral part of this show. I imagine
Speaker 2: you with us for so much longer.
Speaker 6: It's also because we saw Whitey in an episode in
Speaker 6: season six.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true.
Speaker 6: I guess before we get in to the Wilming time
Speaker 6: at all, I wanted to ask when you signed on
Speaker 6: to the show, what was sort of the expectation. Where
Speaker 6: did they tell you were going to be around for
Speaker 6: a long time? Was the idea that it was sort
Speaker 6: of a smaller arc?
Speaker 3: What was No?
Speaker 5: I was a regular in the show in the first
Speaker 5: three seasons.
Speaker 3: And that was the expectation.
Speaker 4: They let you know, Okay, oh yeah, that's so great.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I mean if they if they don't have
Speaker 5: you as a recurring character, they can't expect you to
Speaker 5: drop all your other vision issues. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when you were living here then, did you go
Speaker 2: find a ranch nearby, some sort of local place you
Speaker 2: could go ride horses? Did you miss it? What did
Speaker 2: you do? What was your first like to play?
Speaker 5: And sometimes I'd drive them the carriage, you know, those
Speaker 5: big old perch from the horses.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to go as one does on the
Speaker 4: drive for the guy.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 5: They just let you right on. Once in a while,
Speaker 5: i'd see a cop wearing riding one of those Australian saddles,
Speaker 5: and I say, letting me, let me try that saddle
Speaker 5: and get up on his horse and ride up and
Speaker 5: down Front Street.
Speaker 6: Could you imagine just walking up to a car park,
Speaker 6: like a cop car in a parking.
Speaker 4: Lot, being like, hey, let me get in that explore.
Speaker 2: It one of those let me see how that rides.
Speaker 5: You know, I'd find places to ride and do stuff.
Speaker 6: Imagine if you didn't return the police horse and that
Speaker 6: cop has to go back to the station and they're like.
Speaker 4: How how did you lose your horse?
Speaker 6: And the cops like he just had a beautiful western mustache,
Speaker 6: and he asked really politely, exactly you were here full
Speaker 6: time for three seasons. Where did you end up living
Speaker 6: in Wilmington whereabouts?
Speaker 5: I was at the at the little condos over there,
Speaker 5: right across from the battleship.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's so nice.
Speaker 5: I'd go out and shut on the balcony and look
Speaker 5: at the battleship and wave with the sailers and stuff.
Speaker 6: And when you come back for conventions or anything else,
Speaker 6: do you have any sort of favorite go to spots
Speaker 6: or places you like?
Speaker 5: Oh, they're all going now, oh, Charlie Brown. Charlie Brown
Speaker 5: place I used to like to go.
Speaker 2: It's changed a lot here.
Speaker 5: I'd go in there and play trivia and bade him.
Speaker 5: I remember when I think I was in my sixties
Speaker 5: when I was playing Whitey.
Speaker 4: That was before you had lost fifty percent of everything,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so this was a good time for you.
Speaker 5: One of the bartenders, uh, shed shed do me? Uh
Speaker 5: you want another one? Pop? And I should What do
Speaker 5: you want another one? Pop? And I climbed over the
Speaker 5: bar cha chased them back into low be you did?
Speaker 5: And then I grabbed me and scrubbed his head real good.
Speaker 2: Did you feel like the you know, it was such
Speaker 2: an age difference on our show. It's one of the
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that was made the
Speaker 2: show great too, is that there were really legitimate adult
Speaker 2: storylines and then legitimate young young people's storylines that we
Speaker 2: were in a you know, the big the age gap
Speaker 2: between us and the generational gaps. I think actually really
Speaker 2: helped because it drew in a whole bunch of different audiences.
Speaker 2: But on set, you're working so closely with these boys
Speaker 2: that are so much younger than you, And of course
Speaker 2: when we're in our early twenties and late teens. There's
Speaker 2: a in general and American culture anyway. I think there's
Speaker 2: a general sense of like disconnect and not knowing how
Speaker 2: to ask for advice or wanting to, you know, looking
Speaker 2: at someone who's so much older and being like, well,
Speaker 2: you're not interesting to me. That's what you're boring because
Speaker 2: I'm all about my young, exciting life, not realizing how
Speaker 2: much wisdom, how much you mean, great stories, how interesting.
Speaker 2: I don't case that relationship between you and the boys
Speaker 2: on the team that you.
Speaker 5: Were was, was on the whole good?
Speaker 2: You know, did they ask did you guys get time
Speaker 2: to spend together where you got to tell them stories
Speaker 2: and they would engage with you, or was it like once.
Speaker 5: In a while but rarely because I you know, I
Speaker 5: had my own group of people, not a bunch of
Speaker 5: old drunks. You know.
Speaker 2: So you found your people. You got to Wilmington and
Speaker 2: you found your crew.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're gonna have infinitely better stories than a bunch
Speaker 6: of eighteen year old Oh absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 5: I did to go down to the Barbary coast once
Speaker 5: in a while. No, oh yeah, dateman, Old Steve Mashini
Speaker 5: got stabbed in there.
Speaker 2: My god, that's right. I forgot that happened in Wilmington.
Speaker 2: I always forget that's happened here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wondered because I always look back on
Speaker 2: that time and wish that I had had the wherewithal
Speaker 2: to ask for to ask like Moira and Barbara and you,
Speaker 2: and just to ask you about your advice and your
Speaker 2: life story and just take advantage of that mentorship opportunity.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know how at that age. I know
Speaker 2: it's sure of any of.
Speaker 5: The boys in basketball, but you were also going through
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of things you tell. Yeah, that's true,
Speaker 5: which I wasn't aware of until I listened to your
Speaker 5: book on a road trip experience. And I want to
Speaker 5: tell anybody who's listening to this thing, if you have
Speaker 5: not read George's book, don't read it. Get the recorded version,
Speaker 5: listen to it on a road trip, or just turn
Speaker 5: it on and listen to it at home, because you're
Speaker 5: mission half of it. If you're just reading it yourself.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 5: It's a wonderful it's wonderful writing, and you read it
Speaker 5: so beautifully.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 5: I've heard, I've heard a lot of actors reading their
Speaker 5: own books. Yeah, and they and they shine like they're
Speaker 5: reading some kind of commercial. Oh.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Yeah, it felt good to read that. Just get
Speaker 2: it out of my body.
Speaker 5: And you did. You did a wonderful job. And it's
Speaker 5: it's also a wonderful lesson for for young women particularly. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it Oh you you you bring your tears out.
Speaker 5: You're good.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Perry. I really appreciate you reading it. Thanks.
Speaker 5: Well, you're wonderful, Thank you, thank you. I wish we'd
Speaker 5: got no each other better when when I was here.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard when you're for me. I was
Speaker 2: so young, you know, we hard.
Speaker 5: I mean, not only change we had was Ashamba stuff.
Speaker 2: There was a couple I think in your office when
Speaker 2: I was I don't know if it was when I
Speaker 2: was a student or a teacher. I think it was
Speaker 2: when I was a student, I guess, and you called me.
Speaker 2: You would have called me in to give me advice,
Speaker 2: and you know, i've and I did always really enjoy
Speaker 2: those those scenes. But yeah, I'm that's one of the
Speaker 2: beautiful things about doing these conventions and having time to
Speaker 2: come back to Wilmington and continue to see each other.
Speaker 2: And now that I'm in touch with your grandson Jordan,
Speaker 2: who's just such a lovely, wonderful person. I get to
Speaker 2: spend time more with you. I'm so grateful that through
Speaker 2: the years we were still in touch and the relationship
Speaker 2: is more meaningful now that we're more older.
Speaker 5: Well and why yeah, yeah, well I don't know that
Speaker 5: I'm any wiser. I think maybe wisdom starts leaking out
Speaker 5: when you get to be about ad.
Speaker 3: That's part of that last quarter ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I told I told Chad today, I said, well,
Speaker 5: when you get to be eighty four, you're not feeble.
Speaker 5: I'll let you know about eighty five.
Speaker 2: When you look at your life right now, you've done
Speaker 2: so much, You've accomplished so many things you're still moving
Speaker 2: forward to. They said, you've got this show that you're
Speaker 2: going around telling your stories. What are things that are
Speaker 2: still on your bucket list? Like what's on the Berry
Speaker 2: bucket list?
Speaker 5: We just keep working as long as I can. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's a I don't have any particular You're.
Speaker 2: Not desperate to go up in a hot air balloon
Speaker 2: or jump out of a plane.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I've been up in the hot air balloon
Speaker 5: and I have jumped out of planes one anymore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, when you do these conventions, is there a
Speaker 6: particular scene or quote that the fans want to talk
Speaker 6: to you about?
Speaker 5: There was one woman came in and she had a uh,
Speaker 5: one of these like a like an undershirt, you know,
Speaker 5: strapped thing. She pulled off her jacket and she pointed
Speaker 5: she had tattoo up and down her arms of quote
Speaker 5: on both arms, and she said, do you remember saying this?
Speaker 5: I looked at him, no, and she said, well, you
Speaker 5: did an episode showing should Oh oh yeah, No I
Speaker 5: didn't say that. Lydie Durham said that, oh right, yes,
Speaker 5: And then I looked and all those things were things
Speaker 5: that why did Durham and said.
Speaker 2: You were like a mentor to her through the TV. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's kind of sweet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know that that was that kind of
Speaker 5: took me back a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 6: When you think about it, you know, it's been like
Speaker 6: over six decades that you've been working. Is there i
Speaker 6: mean the whole like your favorite job thing.
Speaker 3: It's such a.
Speaker 6: Tricky question, but is there is there a job that
Speaker 6: just was it like an especially joyful or special experience?
Speaker 5: Well, there was there was one particular series that I
Speaker 5: did that it was probably probably the most joy and
Speaker 5: ultimately the most depressing northern exposure.
Speaker 4: Oh sure, that's right.
Speaker 2: Berry and Dad had that show on all the time.
Speaker 5: Same. Yes, it was a fun show to do for
Speaker 5: the first three seasons, first, well three and a half seasons,
Speaker 5: and then they changed producers. They brought in a producer
Speaker 5: who didn't like the show.
Speaker 3: Oh, smart business choice.
Speaker 5: And he said, well, it was a deliberate oh and
Speaker 5: he said when they after the show was canceled, he said,
Speaker 5: one never liked the show anyway, it's too precious and
Speaker 5: so you know that. But anyhow, there was a lawsuit
Speaker 5: between the guy that broke your genal script and and
Speaker 5: Universal and CBS and the producers and writers and everybody
Speaker 5: a mass And I didn't know anything about it because
Speaker 5: we were shooting the show in Washington. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Where were you guys? Where did you shoot that?
Speaker 5: Outside Seattle?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: It was supposed to be Alaska?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man, we couldn't shoot in Alaska because we
Speaker 5: were shooting in the wintertime. You know, it's all dark
Speaker 5: all the time. So we shot in Seattle, where you
Speaker 5: got maybe eight hours of light, you know.
Speaker 2: But what was so joyful about that experience?
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 5: It was just so much, so much fun to explore
Speaker 5: the character and the and the town and all the
Speaker 5: you know, all the all the ramifications of it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and all the people, you know, and how we changed
Speaker 5: throughout the pross this. And then they brought in this
Speaker 5: guy who didn't like it and started messing with it.
Speaker 5: The scripts started getting I mean they were not undecipherable.
Speaker 5: You couldn't figure out what the hell anybody was doing.
Speaker 5: One year we were nominated for the Best Ensemble Cast
Speaker 5: in Television for the SAG Awards. Yeah, And he sent
Speaker 5: a directive up to the set up in Washington, Washington said,
Speaker 5: none of the actors are allowed to speak during the
Speaker 5: during the Screen Actors Guild Awards. The producers will accept the.
Speaker 3: Award because that's who the audience wants to see.
Speaker 5: And I was the only one nominated for an Emmy
Speaker 5: the last in the last season.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: And they said you can't go, and I said, gosh,
Speaker 5: I said, oh I can't. And he said no, you'll
Speaker 5: be working on Monday. You'll be working early Monday, so
Speaker 5: you can't go. And I said, well, I'll tell you
Speaker 5: what that is going to look awful good on this
Speaker 5: on the tabloid that the producers have told Nominee that
Speaker 5: he cannot be at the awards. He said, what do
Speaker 5: you mean. I mean I have a publishist too, and
Speaker 5: he said uh. He he hung up, and then he
Speaker 5: called back letter and said, you can go. So we
Speaker 5: don't have it in the budget for limousine or hotel or.
Speaker 3: Flat down over here.
Speaker 5: Huh. I said, well, I'll tell you what I I'll
Speaker 5: I'll fly down there on the last Carolines and I'll
Speaker 5: stay in Motel six or whatever, the cheapest one I
Speaker 5: can find, and I'll take the cheapest transport I can
Speaker 5: find to the Emmy. And he said what does that mean?
Speaker 5: I said, well, you'll find out. So I called a
Speaker 5: friend of mine who'd been the wrangler. No no, I
Speaker 5: called the wrangler up. Jimmy Madeiras and I said, Jimmy, uh,
Speaker 5: have you got a couple of matching horses that kind
Speaker 5: of flashy looking and uh maybe uh one I'm absolutely
Speaker 5: bomb proof, the other one needs to be used to crowd.
Speaker 2: Stop.
Speaker 5: He said, what are you going to do? I said,
Speaker 5: I'm me and my daughter are going to ride into
Speaker 5: the Emmy.
Speaker 3: Tell me you did this.
Speaker 5: So I told Jimmy that I had to have a
Speaker 5: uh two good one of them one of them can't
Speaker 5: be can't be wild in anyway. The other one I
Speaker 5: don't care. But uh we we need also need to
Speaker 5: pass our license to ride our horses in Pasadena on
Speaker 5: that Sunday and he said, what are you going to do?
Speaker 5: I said, we're going to ride the horse back into
Speaker 5: the image and he said, oh well, I said, how
Speaker 5: much is it going to cost me? And he said,
Speaker 5: not a damn thing. I want to see you do it.
Speaker 5: And so they arranged for it. And at the last
Speaker 5: minute they arranged me to have a flight first class
Speaker 5: down to and the hotel room and the uh and
Speaker 5: the limo. Well that was good because I didn't know
Speaker 5: what I was going to do with the horses when
Speaker 5: I got.
Speaker 3: To the car, the red carpet, imagine that.
Speaker 5: And so I put the wranglers in the limo. That's great,
Speaker 5: and they followed us in.
Speaker 2: So you did this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Shannon rode in with me.
Speaker 2: Please tell me there are photographs of this?
Speaker 5: Well we got was all over the news that day,
Speaker 5: but then then it completely disappeared. It did there there's
Speaker 5: they did an interview with me. Why well, they didn't.
Speaker 5: They didn't want to. They didn't want any publishity.
Speaker 2: Som yeah, I get it.
Speaker 5: They wanted to cancel the show. They didn't want to
Speaker 5: publish they so they so my my horse took a
Speaker 5: dump on them on the carpet.
Speaker 3: Couldn't write it any better, and uh.
Speaker 5: And and the wrangler jumped out of the limo and
Speaker 5: ran off with the horses. And we walked up people cheering,
Speaker 5: laughing and waving to them. You know, Shannon was slinking
Speaker 5: up the side trying to keep out of out of
Speaker 5: sight because she thought I was crazy. And so I
Speaker 5: got up to Army Archard at the at the standing
Speaker 5: there where he's interviewing celebrity arrivals, and he said, well,
Speaker 5: you picked an interesting way to come into the immies.
Speaker 5: Is there a story behind that?
Speaker 2: And your producer held his brad and I.
Speaker 5: Said, well, yeah, apparently there wasn't there. They're not making
Speaker 5: enough money selling coffee cups and sweatshirts and one thing
Speaker 5: and another to be able to cover my expenses down here.
Speaker 5: So I took the cheapest transport I could find, I said,
Speaker 5: CBS and Universe leand there somewhere. So I hadn't worked
Speaker 5: for Universal or CBS.
Speaker 2: You know what the world is not you isn't a
Speaker 2: better place for it, and you are not hurting for work.
Speaker 2: You've continue to ges. I mean, your career has been amazing.
Speaker 6: Well, I can't think of a better story to go
Speaker 6: out on and taking a dump the horse, not on
Speaker 6: the red.
Speaker 2: Carpet, on the red carpet. Well, before we wrap up, Barry,
Speaker 2: is there anything you want to say to the One
Speaker 2: Tree Hill fans that you know have been a part
Speaker 2: of this experience with us and with you.
Speaker 5: Yes, I would like to say to the old One
Speaker 5: Tree Hill fan thank you for your loyalty. When I
Speaker 5: first did this show, I thought, well, this is is
Speaker 5: going to be disposable because it's a number one. That's
Speaker 5: your teenage drama, right, I've been through high school. I
Speaker 5: don't want to go through that angst anymore, and so
Speaker 5: I thought this is not a good idea. But I
Speaker 5: did it, and I'm glad I did and it was
Speaker 5: a wonderful experience, the whole thing, and I've made some
Speaker 5: beautiful lifelong friends here. So thank you for all your loyalty,
Speaker 5: and stay loyal. Bring bring in your grandchildren, get them,
Speaker 5: get them to watching it. I've got We've We've got
Speaker 5: people here, mothers and daughters who were grown people now
Speaker 5: and the main thing it brings them together is reruns
Speaker 5: of One Tree. Hell yeah, and thank you, thank you, Erry.
Speaker 6: This is the longest we've ever got to sit and check,
Speaker 6: but I can do it for a lot longer. You
Speaker 6: are a delight to speak to and your stories are tremendous.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: Is there any place people can follow along with the
Speaker 2: next things that you have going on? Do you have
Speaker 2: a website or.
Speaker 5: Instagram Www dot Barrycorbin dot com. Great, and go to
Speaker 5: the event when you get when you get a picture
Speaker 5: may shutting on a horse, go to right, Just go
Speaker 5: go to the advent and you'll see where I'm I'm
Speaker 5: I'm bearing so fantastic.
Speaker 3: Www dot Barrycorbin dot com.
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