WEBVTT - Live from Wilmington with Barry Corbin

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you don't know me.

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<v Speaker 2>All about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all

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<v Speaker 2>about them high school queens.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll take you for a ride.

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<v Speaker 2>And our comic girl cheering for the right teams, Drama

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<v Speaker 2>queens jails, my girl girl fashion, which your tough girl,

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<v Speaker 2>You could sit with us?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens

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<v Speaker 1>Drama Queens.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, friends, we're back and we're live. We are here,

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<v Speaker 2>live together. Robert Hello, Hello, Hello, We're in Wilmington.

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<v Speaker 4>What is special about Wilmington?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's the most special at Wilmington Checkers.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not Checkers food.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, today it is that we are at a wintre

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<v Speaker 2>Hill convention and we get to see all of our

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<v Speaker 2>friends as we do every year. It's like a family reunion.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of my favorite things is being able to

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<v Speaker 2>see family members that we don't always get to connect with.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, one of the people I always seem

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<v Speaker 2>to miss whenever we come into town is Barry corbyin

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<v Speaker 2>and we finally got him. He's finally here to talk

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<v Speaker 2>with us about his life and experience and about One

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<v Speaker 2>Tree Hill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, welcome Barry.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome, thank you, thank you for having me, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to have a good time here.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your first job, like professional gig? I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe you told so for those listeners who don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Barry's got this. It's a one man show, really right

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<v Speaker 2>that you're just talking about the stories of your life

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<v Speaker 2>and career and he's doing this show. He's testing it

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<v Speaker 2>out in different markets around the country and you I

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<v Speaker 2>was at the first one that you ever did in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't remember if you talked about this in

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<v Speaker 2>particular story like the first job that you ever got,

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<v Speaker 2>but would you remind me if you did tell it.

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<v Speaker 5>Any very first job that was actually not you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I used to put on a little plays that I

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<v Speaker 5>wrote and directed with my brother and sister. They didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to do it. They oh no, they were both

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<v Speaker 5>younger than I am, and uh so I'd put these

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<v Speaker 5>plays on that and I'd start. I'd charge a penny

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<v Speaker 5>of peace for anybody to come in to watch, and

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<v Speaker 5>then pretty ship, before too long, I'm up to a

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<v Speaker 5>nickel and then I think, well, this is worth a dime,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I'd charge a dime and then uh, who.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you getting besides.

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<v Speaker 5>Neighborhood kids, my parents, my grandparents, yeah, anybody, any relative.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd broke them in, make them pay me a dime

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<v Speaker 5>to do the play. And I'd do it at any time.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it wasn't like I was. I'd have a

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<v Speaker 5>time to do it. If if I could get a

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<v Speaker 5>crowd together, you know, like five or six people wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>do a play.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you'd have to find actual at some point, you

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<v Speaker 2>had to find an actual director and producer and people

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<v Speaker 2>who were going to hire you and say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>you come do our thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Well I did that the Colorado Shakespeare Festival all right

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<v Speaker 5>in uh in Boulder, Colorado, and it was that was

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<v Speaker 5>the first time I was in a uh A festival

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<v Speaker 5>plays that played in in repertory. You know, we do

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<v Speaker 5>Henry the Fifth one day and King John the next day,

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<v Speaker 5>and as you like it the next day, and then

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<v Speaker 5>go in and rep like that. So uh you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you had to remember what play you were doing, so

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<v Speaker 5>you put on the right costume to start.

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<v Speaker 2>With, he comes out of his pocket, go out and.

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<v Speaker 5>Do the play. You know. I always managed to to

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<v Speaker 5>know we were doing troil Is and crested the night

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<v Speaker 5>and we were doing doing King John and next night

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<v Speaker 5>and uh it was it was fun, you know. But

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<v Speaker 5>I was also working on a ranch in the daytime

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<v Speaker 5>because he weren't taying me enough to live. Really, I

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<v Speaker 5>was really living on cornmeal and mashed up and fried

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<v Speaker 5>in the oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait this, you're like every young girl's dream man. You

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<v Speaker 2>worked on a ranch during the day and you did

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<v Speaker 2>Shakespeare by night.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, word shirtless sunshine.

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<v Speaker 5>I also also studied, uh ballet. What there was a

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<v Speaker 5>man there, there was an oil man in love but

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<v Speaker 5>whose daughter wanted to be a ballerina. He was a

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<v Speaker 5>very rich guy, and much richer than he had brains.

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<v Speaker 5>So he went over and scouted around in eastern Europe

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<v Speaker 5>and found a Lithuanian ballet master by the name of

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<v Speaker 5>Eugene Banzavisius and hired him to come over and live

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<v Speaker 5>in Lubbock and open a ballet studio. He was an

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<v Speaker 5>old man. He'd been a he'd been at ballet dancer

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<v Speaker 5>when he was younger, and he but he was probably

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<v Speaker 5>it was not old to me now, but he was

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<v Speaker 5>probably sixty years old again. And uh, he'd he'd go

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<v Speaker 5>out and demonstrate things and how you how you how

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<v Speaker 5>you did you know? And and he couldn't find anybody

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<v Speaker 5>that lift the girls in the boys because the boys

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<v Speaker 5>were all slight and they I was working on oil

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<v Speaker 5>rigs at so I was strong and I could lift

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<v Speaker 5>the girls, and I could also do these.

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<v Speaker 2>The gesticulations for the listener at home.

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<v Speaker 4>Barry is performing many a graceful, gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 5>Played prayed played the prench in Swan Lake. You did,

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I was. I was. I'm real pistol.

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<v Speaker 2>Them off with a stick.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to you as a young man.

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<v Speaker 6>Sounds like if the c W had a show about

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<v Speaker 6>like living on a Ranch, you would have been the

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<v Speaker 6>like hot, heartwarming Lucas Scott.

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<v Speaker 5>I would have been the outcast, even more likable online,

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<v Speaker 5>I can I can fit in with ranch people. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going once in a while I go out to a

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<v Speaker 5>ranch and help them get the cattle. Yeah, just prove

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<v Speaker 5>that I can still get on a horse and still.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you were just on Yellowstone not two years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I was out to four six in ranch last year.

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<v Speaker 5>I helped to gather cattle. I said, I might need

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<v Speaker 5>a little help getting up, but once I get on,

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<v Speaker 5>I know what I'm doing. Something. I went out there

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<v Speaker 5>and they shoved me up on a horse and I

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<v Speaker 5>was horse back for about about six and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 5>What and we're going out together and cattle bringing the

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<v Speaker 5>cattle in. Then I worked the cattle and then I

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<v Speaker 5>got back to the the place where we started and

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<v Speaker 5>got the cattle pinned and everything. And then I called

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<v Speaker 5>this cowboy over theng guy about six foot five, and

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<v Speaker 5>I said, I said, I want you to stand right here,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm going to fall off his horse and you

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<v Speaker 5>catch me. And so that's what I did, and then

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<v Speaker 5>he caught me.

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<v Speaker 6>You are of the generation where when you say like

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<v Speaker 6>a jack of all trades, they're actually legitimate trades. Like

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<v Speaker 6>you are you you have experience and the ability to

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<v Speaker 6>like actually perform job functions and useful things.

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<v Speaker 4>Whereas like my generation, like I'm a jack of all trades.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like I can hacky sack, I co host a

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<v Speaker 6>podcast and I play make Believe.

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<v Speaker 5>Well. I used to do almost anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it now.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh. When I turned six, Yeah, I forgot about half

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<v Speaker 5>of what I ever knew. When I turned seventy, I

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<v Speaker 5>lost about a quarter more of that. When I turned eighty,

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<v Speaker 5>I forgot anything. Had to hit my marks and change

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<v Speaker 5>my lines. I don't even know how to run anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, Brett, you are, you're so versatile. How did that?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that translate into into basketball? When you were

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<v Speaker 2>asked to come play coach Whitey on one Truth?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, well apparently, and all those boys saw every old

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<v Speaker 5>man in California and they couldn't find anybody. It was

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<v Speaker 5>tough that they were happening, happy with it to be

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<v Speaker 5>the coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And I guess they expanded. Maybe they saw people over

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<v Speaker 5>in Arizona too, I don't know. But they finally called

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<v Speaker 5>my manager and said, would Barry Corbin come into town

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<v Speaker 5>and talk to us about a part in our television

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<v Speaker 5>show One Tree Hill. And he called me and I said,

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<v Speaker 5>are they paying the way? He said yeah? And I

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<v Speaker 5>said they're going to put me in the hotel and

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<v Speaker 5>give me a rent car? He said yeah. I said,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, I'll be there. There's that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 5>that all ate gents have.

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<v Speaker 6>It.

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<v Speaker 5>It's your line of what I call shaker and bs sure,

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<v Speaker 5>and I've got that in Spade. I mean, it's something

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<v Speaker 5>that I learned from New York agents when I was

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<v Speaker 5>in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say because that's not that doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a vibe that would be on a ranch a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a New York you gotta yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So I sat in and uh and just bluffed

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<v Speaker 5>talk to them. I never mentioned I've never seen a

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<v Speaker 5>basketball game. Yes, I know you mentioned that. I knew

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<v Speaker 5>nothing about basketball except your bounce this ball around and

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<v Speaker 5>trying to get it over here and try to get

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<v Speaker 5>into it. I don't, but I never cared anything about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Which is so funny about that is that you did

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<v Speaker 6>the opposite of what most actors do.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>There's the thing actors do when they're like up for

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<v Speaker 6>a job, like especially commercial acting. I'll be like, great,

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<v Speaker 6>we're only gonna audition you if you can ride a horse,

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<v Speaker 6>and every actor goes, I can ride a horse.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the last thing that you ought to say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>what what you ought to say? And what Ben Johnson

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<v Speaker 5>always said. Ben Johnson was the best horseman in the movies.

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<v Speaker 5>He see, yeah, I ride a little bit. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's what you that's what you need to say. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>I've got a story about a guy who who.

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<v Speaker 6>It was your wife just shook her head in the background,

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<v Speaker 6>which makes me think this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 6>good thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It is. It is a good story. She doesn't know

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<v Speaker 5>this story really, but this was a fellow that was

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<v Speaker 5>that he told him he could ride. And I was

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<v Speaker 5>playing the bad guy in this thing, in this Magnificent seven.

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<v Speaker 5>It was it was not it was not the movie.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a television cheeri and I was playing the

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<v Speaker 5>bad guy in this episode. And I had a There

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<v Speaker 5>was one scene where we're chasing a wagon and me

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<v Speaker 5>and my gang and my accomplished the head of my

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<v Speaker 5>uh you know, my operation. I was running a body house.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh but it was like a traveling body house, a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of tents and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, just clarifying.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was being made to the girls and all that, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>But they were trying to trying to rescue the girls

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<v Speaker 5>from men. They had them all in this wagon. So

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<v Speaker 5>I got my gang together and I'm out and we're

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<v Speaker 5>out horseback. We got to come off a hill and

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<v Speaker 5>run down this hill and run beside the wagon. The

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<v Speaker 5>camera car on the other side of the wagon. They're

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<v Speaker 5>shooting across the driver on onto us chasing the wagon

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, my uh head henchman has said he could ride,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, I watched him walk up to the horse

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<v Speaker 5>and that wasn't going to work. And uh, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he might really ought to be doubled in

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<v Speaker 5>this scene. And he said, what do you mean. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to come off this hill and I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to have to be riding pretty fast catch this wagon

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<v Speaker 5>because he's running pretty fast and we're pretty far behind,

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<v Speaker 5>so I'm going to have to really give him a

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<v Speaker 5>little little nudge.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know your horse.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I'm not sure that you want to do

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<v Speaker 5>that and he said, oh no, no, it'll be it'll

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<v Speaker 5>be fine, and it'll be good. All right. We'll stay

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<v Speaker 5>behind me, don't get in front of me because I

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<v Speaker 5>can't help you if you're in front of me. And

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<v Speaker 5>the okay, so here we come. We did did a

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<v Speaker 5>half half speed rehearsal. You know, you come off kind

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<v Speaker 5>of just a little little past trot, a little lope

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<v Speaker 5>down the hill. That's okay. He did fine. I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>now this is going to be a picture here and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of put the steel to him,

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<v Speaker 5>so be ready, I said, okay, I said, now remember

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<v Speaker 5>what they told you. You want to you want to

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<v Speaker 5>hold the reins in your left hand and you hold

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<v Speaker 5>them the tail of the reins because you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 5>to do something with your other hand with and your

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<v Speaker 5>in your right hand, and you just kind of pretend

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<v Speaker 5>to be whipping your horse. Don't do it, but just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of pretend to do it, just to give you

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<v Speaker 5>something to do. Well, I knew that wasn't gonna work.

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<v Speaker 5>But what happened was I I got to gave my

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<v Speaker 5>horse spur and he jumped off, and he started running

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<v Speaker 5>down that hill you know, pretty fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially to horses going downhill, And I.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, stay stayed behind me. Well, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 5>I heard this thundering noise coming up to my right

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<v Speaker 5>wagons to my left. I kind of glanced over there,

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<v Speaker 5>and this guy is sitting up there and he's got

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<v Speaker 5>shaddle horn like that with both hands. Oh, rains are

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<v Speaker 5>flopping side. That horse is run away. He's got his

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<v Speaker 5>head stuck out in front of him, and he was

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<v Speaker 5>we're in seeing me valley. I thought he was going

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<v Speaker 5>to be in Los Angeles downtown before I could catch him.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he was going, but he was on flat

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<v Speaker 5>out run away.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. He had a terrified expression on his face.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh.

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<v Speaker 5>His eyes were bugging out of his head, and he.

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<v Speaker 6>Scario, Yeah, scream of the school does not make for

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<v Speaker 6>the best henchman.

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<v Speaker 5>They said, cut. And then now I saw. I saw

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<v Speaker 5>two wranglers down there behind two trees, and he was

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<v Speaker 5>going right between those trees, and they came out and

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<v Speaker 5>stopped his horse. My gosh, But I told him then,

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<v Speaker 5>I said, you know, anytime you have to ride pasted

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<v Speaker 5>a walk, get a double.

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<v Speaker 4>Get a double.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you didn't need a double, as coach White, even

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<v Speaker 2>though you knew nothing about basketball.

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<v Speaker 5>But what I did this was this was the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of March madness when they when I went and talked

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<v Speaker 5>to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I.

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<v Speaker 5>Came home and went to my favorite bar, sat there

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<v Speaker 5>drinking beer and watching basketball. But I wasn't watching the players.

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<v Speaker 5>I was watching the coaches. Yeah, and they all looked

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<v Speaker 5>like they had their cholesterol sticking out of their ears,

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<v Speaker 5>and they were screaming and carrying on hollering. I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 5>nobody can live past thirty five if they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>be act that way all the time. So I decided, well,

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<v Speaker 5>this coach is going to be kind of like Yoda

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<v Speaker 5>off the court, but on the court, he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be absolutely the most terrible person in the world. And

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<v Speaker 5>so that's what I did. Wow when I got here,

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<v Speaker 5>when I got here, when I first got here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the coach that actually put the play together, and I

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<v Speaker 5>forgot his name now, but anyway, he did the one

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<v Speaker 5>with Gene Hackman Hoosiers and well, yeah, but he said,

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<v Speaker 5>do you want to come and watch us run some

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<v Speaker 5>plays in the morning? And I said no, And he said, well,

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<v Speaker 5>if you don't watch us run plays, you're not going

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<v Speaker 5>to know what's happening. I said, I can watch you

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<v Speaker 5>run plays from now Christmas and I still don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to know. But I don't have to know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>All I've got to know is is how to look

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<v Speaker 5>like I know what's happening. Yeah, because I've played jet pilots,

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<v Speaker 5>I've played brain surgeons. I've planned all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 5>But you wouldn't want to get on the plane that

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<v Speaker 5>I'm piloting. You wouldn't want to let me do brain

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<v Speaker 5>surgery on you. You wouldn't want me to do anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You wouldn't want me to fix your plumbing. But I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not you know, I do know how to look like

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<v Speaker 5>I can do anything. Yeah, and he's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a secret. You just got to set.

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<v Speaker 3>And you got it.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta look like you know, you know, pilot. You've

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<v Speaker 5>got to know which switches to switch first, and you

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<v Speaker 5>gotta know yeah, old old stuff work, and then it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's easy.

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<v Speaker 4>Get this gang.

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<v Speaker 6>Ray, the founder of Friends with Benefits, the convention company

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<v Speaker 6>that runs these amazing events that we are currently at,

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<v Speaker 6>has been working on and designed a one Tree Hill

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<v Speaker 6>themed Airbnb set and where else but Wilmington, North Carolina

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<v Speaker 6>and get this gang. It is available for booking now

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<v Speaker 6>on the Airbnb app.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a cool idea. I remember us talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this a while ago and we never actually followed

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<v Speaker 2>through that. I'm so glad somebody else did.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>The FWBT team, led by Ray, Brittany and Wanita, along

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<v Speaker 2>with a ton of help from volunteers, are officially turning

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<v Speaker 2>Trick back into the actual trick, like the nightclub in

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<v Speaker 2>the show. For more updates about that and other events,

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<v Speaker 2>follow f WB on Instagram at f w B Charity Events.

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<v Speaker 2>Had you filmed anything in Wilmington before, Yes, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know there was a lot of things happening in this town,

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<v Speaker 2>especially Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I did a movie of the Week with them with

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<v Speaker 5>Dane Lad not not dyinge Cheryl led Cheryl Ladd Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was I was going to kill her. I

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<v Speaker 5>was killer.

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<v Speaker 2>So was this a show then one of the really

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<v Speaker 2>great like good guy roles that you'd gotten, because it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like maybe you were cast a lot as the

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<v Speaker 2>villain or.

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<v Speaker 5>The mostly not not bad guy. I'm not really good

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<v Speaker 5>bad guy because I can I don't look really look

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm cruel.

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<v Speaker 6>And if I can jump in here, you you have

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<v Speaker 6>played two of my favorite good guy historical figures, Lyndon

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<v Speaker 6>Johnson and Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>My question is which one did you feel more pressure

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<v Speaker 6>to get right?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh? Well, I knew that it didn't look like Lyndon Johnson,

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<v Speaker 5>and I knew I was I got alopecia, so I

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<v Speaker 5>don't have any hair, So I knew I didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to wear a wig, so I just wore the hat

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<v Speaker 5>all the time. And I knew I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>put on a big nose hanging down over my mouth,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, And I mean that really disrupted my lunch

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<v Speaker 5>real bad. Yeah, So, uh, I just I just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of played I kind of got his voice, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>but I didn't didn't look like him. But this was

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<v Speaker 5>a fictional thing anyway. It was it was about if

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<v Speaker 5>if Kennedy had had not been assassinated, and uh so

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<v Speaker 5>that was that was that, and the Santa Claus thing,

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<v Speaker 5>that was well, I did play play a man playing

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<v Speaker 5>like he was Santa Claus one time. I was in

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<v Speaker 5>Christmas and the smokey I put on a little Santa

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<v Speaker 5>Claus beard hung over my ears and stuff. But the

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<v Speaker 5>Shanta Claus thing was a cartoon, so I could just.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like he's in the rocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I was just six years old all over again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic, that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>So obviously you had been working steadily for so long

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<v Speaker 6>when One Tree Hill came along, and then you were

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<v Speaker 6>on this show with all of these relatively green actors

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<v Speaker 6>and the show becomes a hit. What was it like

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<v Speaker 6>for you, because this wasn't your first go around, But

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<v Speaker 6>what was it like watching these very fresh young actors

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<v Speaker 6>and getting thrown into this big, successful show.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I knew there were gonna be some mistakes made,

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<v Speaker 5>and I knew that I couldn't I could not warn

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<v Speaker 5>anybody about those mistakes, so I just I pretty much

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<v Speaker 5>acted like the coach with the cash.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're talking about like just on set mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>of like within filmmaking or what kind of mistakes you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, And why did you feel like you.

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<v Speaker 5>Were Well, I knew that they they were to it.

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<v Speaker 5>When you're doing your first television show, you're nervous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, in order to make you not be nervous,

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<v Speaker 5>it's for me not to be nervous. Yeah, And uh

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<v Speaker 5>so what what I would do? I just I just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of, uh make a little hint of it by Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>unless somebody just came and asked.

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<v Speaker 2>Me something I wish i'd asked you for more.

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<v Speaker 5>Chad did a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, and uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh I think I helped him. I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 5>I did or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you did. So let's talk about Wilmington real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know you had been here once before to film.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you came to to Wilmington and lived here in

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<v Speaker 2>between here and Texas for the ten years that well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess how many seasons did you do with us?

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<v Speaker 5>Three?

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<v Speaker 6>Six?

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<v Speaker 2>Only three?

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<v Speaker 5>Three?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that blows my mind. Berry. You just

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<v Speaker 2>are such an integral part of this show. I imagine

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<v Speaker 2>you with us for so much longer.

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<v Speaker 6>It's also because we saw Whitey in an episode in

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<v Speaker 6>season six.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess before we get in to the Wilming time

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<v Speaker 6>at all, I wanted to ask when you signed on

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<v Speaker 6>to the show, what was sort of the expectation. Where

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<v Speaker 6>did they tell you were going to be around for

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<v Speaker 6>a long time? Was the idea that it was sort

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<v Speaker 6>of a smaller arc?

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<v Speaker 3>What was No?

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<v Speaker 5>I was a regular in the show in the first

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<v Speaker 5>three seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was the expectation.

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<v Speaker 4>They let you know, Okay, oh yeah, that's so great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So I mean if they if they don't have

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<v Speaker 5>you as a recurring character, they can't expect you to

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<v Speaker 5>drop all your other vision issues. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you were living here then, did you go

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<v Speaker 2>find a ranch nearby, some sort of local place you

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<v Speaker 2>could go ride horses? Did you miss it? What did

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<v Speaker 2>you do? What was your first like to play?

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<v Speaker 5>And sometimes I'd drive them the carriage, you know, those

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<v Speaker 5>big old perch from the horses.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I had to go as one does on the

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<v Speaker 4>drive for the guy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great.

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<v Speaker 5>They just let you right on. Once in a while,

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<v Speaker 5>i'd see a cop wearing riding one of those Australian saddles,

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<v Speaker 5>and I say, letting me, let me try that saddle

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<v Speaker 5>and get up on his horse and ride up and

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<v Speaker 5>down Front Street.

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<v Speaker 6>Could you imagine just walking up to a car park,

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<v Speaker 6>like a cop car in a parking.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot, being like, hey, let me get in that explore.

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<v Speaker 2>It one of those let me see how that rides.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'd find places to ride and do stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Imagine if you didn't return the police horse and that

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<v Speaker 6>cop has to go back to the station and they're like.

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<v Speaker 4>How how did you lose your horse?

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<v Speaker 6>And the cops like he just had a beautiful western mustache,

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<v Speaker 6>and he asked really politely, exactly you were here full

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<v Speaker 6>time for three seasons. Where did you end up living

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<v Speaker 6>in Wilmington whereabouts?

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<v Speaker 5>I was at the at the little condos over there,

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<v Speaker 5>right across from the battleship.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, it's so nice.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd go out and shut on the balcony and look

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<v Speaker 5>at the battleship and wave with the sailers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>And when you come back for conventions or anything else,

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<v Speaker 6>do you have any sort of favorite go to spots

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<v Speaker 6>or places you like?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, they're all going now, oh, Charlie Brown. Charlie Brown

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<v Speaker 5>place I used to like to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's changed a lot here.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd go in there and play trivia and bade him.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember when I think I was in my sixties

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<v Speaker 5>when I was playing Whitey.

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<v Speaker 4>That was before you had lost fifty percent of everything,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so this was a good time for you.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 5>One of the bartenders, uh, shed shed do me? Uh

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 5>you want another one? Pop? And I should What do

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 5>you want another one? Pop? And I climbed over the

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 5>bar cha chased them back into low be you did?

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 5>And then I grabbed me and scrubbed his head real good.

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Did you feel like the you know, it was such

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>an age difference on our show. It's one of the

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things that was made the

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<v Speaker 2>show great too, is that there were really legitimate adult

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>storylines and then legitimate young young people's storylines that we

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 2>were in a you know, the big the age gap

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 2>between us and the generational gaps. I think actually really

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 2>helped because it drew in a whole bunch of different audiences.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 2>But on set, you're working so closely with these boys

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>that are so much younger than you, And of course

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 2>when we're in our early twenties and late teens. There's

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>a in general and American culture anyway. I think there's

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 2>a general sense of like disconnect and not knowing how

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to ask for advice or wanting to, you know, looking

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>at someone who's so much older and being like, well,

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>you're not interesting to me. That's what you're boring because

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm all about my young, exciting life, not realizing how

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 2>much wisdom, how much you mean, great stories, how interesting.

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't case that relationship between you and the boys

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>on the team that you.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 5>Were was, was on the whole good?

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, did they ask did you guys get time

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 2>to spend together where you got to tell them stories

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and they would engage with you, or was it like once.

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 5>In a while but rarely because I you know, I

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 5>had my own group of people, not a bunch of

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:48.479
<v Speaker 5>old drunks. You know.

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>So you found your people. You got to Wilmington and

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 2>you found your crew.

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they're gonna have infinitely better stories than a bunch

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 6>of eighteen year old Oh absolutely absolutely.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 5>I did to go down to the Barbary coast once

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 5>in a while. No, oh yeah, dateman, Old Steve Mashini

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 5>got stabbed in there.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 2>My god, that's right. I forgot that happened in Wilmington.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I always forget that's happened here.

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just wondered because I always look back on

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>that time and wish that I had had the wherewithal

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>to ask for to ask like Moira and Barbara and you,

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and just to ask you about your advice and your

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 2>life story and just take advantage of that mentorship opportunity.

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't know how at that age. I know

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>it's sure of any of.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 5>The boys in basketball, but you were also going through

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 5>a whole bunch of things you tell. Yeah, that's true,

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 5>which I wasn't aware of until I listened to your

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 5>book on a road trip experience. And I want to

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 5>tell anybody who's listening to this thing, if you have

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 5>not read George's book, don't read it. Get the recorded version,

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 5>listen to it on a road trip, or just turn

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 5>it on and listen to it at home, because you're

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 5>mission half of it. If you're just reading it yourself.

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you. Thanks.

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 5>It's a wonderful it's wonderful writing, and you read it

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 5>so beautifully.

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 5>I've heard, I've heard a lot of actors reading their

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 5>own books. Yeah, and they and they shine like they're

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 5>reading some kind of commercial. Oh.

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Yeah, it felt good to read that. Just get

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it out of my body.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 5>And you did. You did a wonderful job. And it's

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 5>it's also a wonderful lesson for for young women particularly. Yeah,

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 5>and it Oh you you you bring your tears out.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 5>You're good.

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Perry. I really appreciate you reading it. Thanks.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 5>Well, you're wonderful, Thank you, thank you. I wish we'd

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 5>got no each other better when when I was here.

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I do too.

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>It's hard. It's hard when you're for me. I was

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>so young, you know, we hard.

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 5>I mean, not only change we had was Ashamba stuff.

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 2>There was a couple I think in your office when

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I was I don't know if it was when I

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>was a student or a teacher. I think it was

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>when I was a student, I guess, and you called me.

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>You would have called me in to give me advice,

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and you know, i've and I did always really enjoy

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>those those scenes. But yeah, I'm that's one of the

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>beautiful things about doing these conventions and having time to

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 2>come back to Wilmington and continue to see each other.

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>And now that I'm in touch with your grandson Jordan,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 2>who's just such a lovely, wonderful person. I get to

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>spend time more with you. I'm so grateful that through

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the years we were still in touch and the relationship

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>is more meaningful now that we're more older.

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 5>Well and why yeah, yeah, well I don't know that

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm any wiser. I think maybe wisdom starts leaking out

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 5>when you get to be about ad.

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 3>That's part of that last quarter ago.

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I told I told Chad today, I said, well,

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 5>when you get to be eighty four, you're not feeble.

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 5>I'll let you know about eighty five.

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>When you look at your life right now, you've done

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>so much, You've accomplished so many things you're still moving

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>forward to. They said, you've got this show that you're

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 2>going around telling your stories. What are things that are

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 2>still on your bucket list? Like what's on the Berry

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 2>bucket list?

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 5>We just keep working as long as I can. I mean,

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 5>that's a I don't have any particular You're.

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Not desperate to go up in a hot air balloon

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>or jump out of a plane.

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, I've been up in the hot air balloon

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 5>and I have jumped out of planes one anymore.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Hey, when you do these conventions, is there a

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 6>particular scene or quote that the fans want to talk

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 6>to you about?

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 5>There was one woman came in and she had a uh,

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 5>one of these like a like an undershirt, you know,

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 5>strapped thing. She pulled off her jacket and she pointed

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 5>she had tattoo up and down her arms of quote

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 5>on both arms, and she said, do you remember saying this?

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 5>I looked at him, no, and she said, well, you

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 5>did an episode showing should Oh oh yeah, No I

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 5>didn't say that. Lydie Durham said that, oh right, yes,

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 5>And then I looked and all those things were things

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 5>that why did Durham and said.

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 2>You were like a mentor to her through the TV. Yeah,

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>she's kind of sweet.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you know that that was that kind of

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 5>took me back a little bit. Yeah.

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 6>When you think about it, you know, it's been like

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 6>over six decades that you've been working. Is there i

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:41.839
<v Speaker 6>mean the whole like your favorite job thing.

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 3>It's such a.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 6>Tricky question, but is there is there a job that

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 6>just was it like an especially joyful or special experience?

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 5>Well, there was there was one particular series that I

0:35:55.920 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 5>did that it was probably probably the most joy and

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 5>ultimately the most depressing northern exposure.

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.919
<v Speaker 4>Oh sure, that's right.

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Berry and Dad had that show on all the time.

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 5>Same. Yes, it was a fun show to do for

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 5>the first three seasons, first, well three and a half seasons,

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 5>and then they changed producers. They brought in a producer

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 5>who didn't like the show.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh, smart business choice.

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 5>And he said, well, it was a deliberate oh and

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 5>he said when they after the show was canceled, he said,

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 5>one never liked the show anyway, it's too precious and

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 5>so you know that. But anyhow, there was a lawsuit

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 5>between the guy that broke your genal script and and

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 5>Universal and CBS and the producers and writers and everybody

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 5>a mass And I didn't know anything about it because

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 5>we were shooting the show in Washington. Yeah.

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Where were you guys? Where did you shoot that?

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 5>Outside Seattle?

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 4>It was supposed to be Alaska?

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, man, we couldn't shoot in Alaska because we

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.919
<v Speaker 5>were shooting in the wintertime. You know, it's all dark

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 5>all the time. So we shot in Seattle, where you

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 5>got maybe eight hours of light, you know.

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 2>But what was so joyful about that experience?

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 6>It was.

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 5>It was just so much, so much fun to explore

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 5>the character and the and the town and all the

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, all the all the ramifications of it. Yeah,

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 5>and all the people, you know, and how we changed

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 5>throughout the pross this. And then they brought in this

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 5>guy who didn't like it and started messing with it.

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 5>The scripts started getting I mean they were not undecipherable.

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 5>You couldn't figure out what the hell anybody was doing.

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:25.800
<v Speaker 5>One year we were nominated for the Best Ensemble Cast

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:32.839
<v Speaker 5>in Television for the SAG Awards. Yeah, And he sent

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 5>a directive up to the set up in Washington, Washington said,

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 5>none of the actors are allowed to speak during the

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 5>during the Screen Actors Guild Awards. The producers will accept the.

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Award because that's who the audience wants to see.

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 5>And I was the only one nominated for an Emmy

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 5>the last in the last season.

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.720
<v Speaker 5>And they said you can't go, and I said, gosh,

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 5>I said, oh I can't. And he said no, you'll

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 5>be working on Monday. You'll be working early Monday, so

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 5>you can't go. And I said, well, I'll tell you

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 5>what that is going to look awful good on this

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 5>on the tabloid that the producers have told Nominee that

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 5>he cannot be at the awards. He said, what do

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:40.840
<v Speaker 5>you mean. I mean I have a publishist too, and

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 5>he said uh. He he hung up, and then he

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 5>called back letter and said, you can go. So we

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 5>don't have it in the budget for limousine or hotel or.

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Flat down over here.

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 5>Huh. I said, well, I'll tell you what I I'll

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 5>I'll fly down there on the last Carolines and I'll

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 5>stay in Motel six or whatever, the cheapest one I

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 5>can find, and I'll take the cheapest transport I can

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 5>find to the Emmy. And he said what does that mean?

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 5>I said, well, you'll find out. So I called a

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 5>friend of mine who'd been the wrangler. No no, I

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 5>called the wrangler up. Jimmy Madeiras and I said, Jimmy, uh,

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 5>have you got a couple of matching horses that kind

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 5>of flashy looking and uh maybe uh one I'm absolutely

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 5>bomb proof, the other one needs to be used to crowd.

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Stop.

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 5>He said, what are you going to do? I said,

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.439
<v Speaker 5>I'm me and my daughter are going to ride into

0:40:59.520 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 5>the Emmy.

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Tell me you did this.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 5>So I told Jimmy that I had to have a

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 5>uh two good one of them one of them can't

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 5>be can't be wild in anyway. The other one I

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 5>don't care. But uh we we need also need to

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 5>pass our license to ride our horses in Pasadena on

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 5>that Sunday and he said, what are you going to do?

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:29.919
<v Speaker 5>I said, we're going to ride the horse back into

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 5>the image and he said, oh well, I said, how

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 5>much is it going to cost me? And he said,

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 5>not a damn thing. I want to see you do it.

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:44.839
<v Speaker 5>And so they arranged for it. And at the last

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 5>minute they arranged me to have a flight first class

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 5>down to and the hotel room and the uh and

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 5>the limo. Well that was good because I didn't know

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 5>what I was going to do with the horses when

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 5>I got.

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.759
<v Speaker 3>To the car, the red carpet, imagine that.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 5>And so I put the wranglers in the limo. That's great,

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 5>and they followed us in.

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 2>So you did this?

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 6>What?

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Shannon rode in with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell me there are photographs of this?

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<v Speaker 5>Well we got was all over the news that day,

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<v Speaker 5>but then then it completely disappeared. It did there there's

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<v Speaker 5>they did an interview with me. Why well, they didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't want to. They didn't want any publishity.

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<v Speaker 2>Som yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>They wanted to cancel the show. They didn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>publish they so they so my my horse took a

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<v Speaker 5>dump on them on the carpet.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't write it any better, and uh.

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<v Speaker 5>And and the wrangler jumped out of the limo and

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<v Speaker 5>ran off with the horses. And we walked up people cheering,

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<v Speaker 5>laughing and waving to them. You know, Shannon was slinking

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<v Speaker 5>up the side trying to keep out of out of

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<v Speaker 5>sight because she thought I was crazy. And so I

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<v Speaker 5>got up to Army Archard at the at the standing

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<v Speaker 5>there where he's interviewing celebrity arrivals, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you picked an interesting way to come into the immies.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there a story behind that?

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<v Speaker 2>And your producer held his brad and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, well, yeah, apparently there wasn't there. They're not making

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<v Speaker 5>enough money selling coffee cups and sweatshirts and one thing

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<v Speaker 5>and another to be able to cover my expenses down here.

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<v Speaker 5>So I took the cheapest transport I could find, I said,

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<v Speaker 5>CBS and Universe leand there somewhere. So I hadn't worked

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<v Speaker 5>for Universal or CBS.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what the world is not you isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>better place for it, and you are not hurting for work.

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<v Speaker 2>You've continue to ges. I mean, your career has been amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I can't think of a better story to go

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<v Speaker 6>out on and taking a dump the horse, not on

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<v Speaker 6>the red.

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<v Speaker 2>Carpet, on the red carpet. Well, before we wrap up, Barry,

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<v Speaker 2>is there anything you want to say to the One

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<v Speaker 2>Tree Hill fans that you know have been a part

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<v Speaker 2>of this experience with us and with you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I would like to say to the old One

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<v Speaker 5>Tree Hill fan thank you for your loyalty. When I

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<v Speaker 5>first did this show, I thought, well, this is is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be disposable because it's a number one. That's

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<v Speaker 5>your teenage drama, right, I've been through high school. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to go through that angst anymore, and so

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<v Speaker 5>I thought this is not a good idea. But I

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<v Speaker 5>did it, and I'm glad I did and it was

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<v Speaker 5>a wonderful experience, the whole thing, and I've made some

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful lifelong friends here. So thank you for all your loyalty,

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<v Speaker 5>and stay loyal. Bring bring in your grandchildren, get them,

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<v Speaker 5>get them to watching it. I've got We've We've got

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<v Speaker 5>people here, mothers and daughters who were grown people now

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<v Speaker 5>and the main thing it brings them together is reruns

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<v Speaker 5>of One Tree. Hell yeah, and thank you, thank you, Erry.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the longest we've ever got to sit and check,

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<v Speaker 6>but I can do it for a lot longer. You

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<v Speaker 6>are a delight to speak to and your stories are tremendous.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any place people can follow along with the

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<v Speaker 2>next things that you have going on? Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a website or.

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram Www dot Barrycorbin dot com. Great, and go to

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<v Speaker 5>the event when you get when you get a picture

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<v Speaker 5>may shutting on a horse, go to right, Just go

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<v Speaker 5>go to the advent and you'll see where I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 5>I'm bearing so fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Www dot Barrycorbin dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Berry, Thanks Berry, Hey, thanks for listening.

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