1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: All about that high school drama girl, drama girl, all 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: about them high school queens. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride. 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: And our comic girl cheering for the right teams, Drama 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: queens jails, my girl girl fashion, which your tough girl, 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: You could sit with us? 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Girl drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: Drama Queens. 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Hey, friends, we're back and we're live. We are here, 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: live together. Robert Hello, Hello, Hello, We're in Wilmington. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 4: What is special about Wilmington? 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: You know what's the most special at Wilmington Checkers. 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 3: No, it's not Checkers food. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Well, today it is that we are at a wintre 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: Hill convention and we get to see all of our 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: friends as we do every year. It's like a family reunion. 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: But one of my favorite things is being able to 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: see family members that we don't always get to connect with. 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: And for me, one of the people I always seem 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: to miss whenever we come into town is Barry corbyin 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: and we finally got him. He's finally here to talk 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: with us about his life and experience and about One 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: Tree Hill. 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, welcome Barry. 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 5: Welcome, thank you, thank you for having me, and we're 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 5: going to have a good time here. 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: What was your first job, like professional gig? I feel 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: like maybe you told so for those listeners who don't know, 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: Barry's got this. It's a one man show, really right 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: that you're just talking about the stories of your life 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: and career and he's doing this show. He's testing it 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: out in different markets around the country and you I 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: was at the first one that you ever did in Texas. 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: And I don't remember if you talked about this in 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: particular story like the first job that you ever got, 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: but would you remind me if you did tell it. 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 5: Any very first job that was actually not you know, 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 5: I used to put on a little plays that I 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 5: wrote and directed with my brother and sister. They didn't 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 5: want to do it. They oh no, they were both 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 5: younger than I am, and uh so I'd put these 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 5: plays on that and I'd start. I'd charge a penny 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 5: of peace for anybody to come in to watch, and 45 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 5: then pretty ship, before too long, I'm up to a 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 5: nickel and then I think, well, this is worth a dime, 47 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 5: and so I'd charge a dime and then uh, who. 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: Are you getting besides. 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 5: Neighborhood kids, my parents, my grandparents, yeah, anybody, any relative. 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 5: I'd broke them in, make them pay me a dime 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 5: to do the play. And I'd do it at any time. 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't like I was. I'd have a 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: time to do it. If if I could get a 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 5: crowd together, you know, like five or six people wouldn't 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 5: do a play. 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: Then you'd have to find actual at some point, you 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: had to find an actual director and producer and people 58 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: who were going to hire you and say, you know what, 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: you come do our thing. 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: Well I did that the Colorado Shakespeare Festival all right 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 5: in uh in Boulder, Colorado, and it was that was 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 5: the first time I was in a uh A festival 63 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 5: plays that played in in repertory. You know, we do 64 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: Henry the Fifth one day and King John the next day, 65 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 5: and as you like it the next day, and then 66 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 5: go in and rep like that. So uh you know, 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: you had to remember what play you were doing, so 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: you put on the right costume to start. 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: With, he comes out of his pocket, go out and. 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 5: Do the play. You know. I always managed to to 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 5: know we were doing troil Is and crested the night 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 5: and we were doing doing King John and next night 73 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: and uh it was it was fun, you know. But 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 5: I was also working on a ranch in the daytime 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 5: because he weren't taying me enough to live. Really, I 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: was really living on cornmeal and mashed up and fried 77 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: in the oil. 78 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Wait this, you're like every young girl's dream man. You 79 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: worked on a ranch during the day and you did 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: Shakespeare by night. 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: That's right, word shirtless sunshine. 82 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 5: I also also studied, uh ballet. What there was a 83 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 5: man there, there was an oil man in love but 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 5: whose daughter wanted to be a ballerina. He was a 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 5: very rich guy, and much richer than he had brains. 86 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 5: So he went over and scouted around in eastern Europe 87 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 5: and found a Lithuanian ballet master by the name of 88 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 5: Eugene Banzavisius and hired him to come over and live 89 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: in Lubbock and open a ballet studio. He was an 90 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: old man. He'd been a he'd been at ballet dancer 91 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 5: when he was younger, and he but he was probably 92 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: it was not old to me now, but he was 93 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 5: probably sixty years old again. And uh, he'd he'd go 94 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 5: out and demonstrate things and how you how you how 95 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 5: you did you know? And and he couldn't find anybody 96 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: that lift the girls in the boys because the boys 97 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 5: were all slight and they I was working on oil 98 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 5: rigs at so I was strong and I could lift 99 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 5: the girls, and I could also do these. 100 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: The gesticulations for the listener at home. 101 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: Barry is performing many a graceful, gorgeous. 102 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: Played prayed played the prench in Swan Lake. You did, 103 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I was. I was. I'm real pistol. 104 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: Them off with a stick. 105 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: I was going to you as a young man. 106 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 6: Sounds like if the c W had a show about 107 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 6: like living on a Ranch, you would have been the 108 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 6: like hot, heartwarming Lucas Scott. 109 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 5: I would have been the outcast, even more likable online, 110 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 5: I can I can fit in with ranch people. I'm 111 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: going once in a while I go out to a 112 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: ranch and help them get the cattle. Yeah, just prove 113 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 5: that I can still get on a horse and still. 114 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: Well, you were just on Yellowstone not two years ago. 115 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 5: Well, I was out to four six in ranch last year. 116 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 5: I helped to gather cattle. I said, I might need 117 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 5: a little help getting up, but once I get on, 118 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 5: I know what I'm doing. Something. I went out there 119 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 5: and they shoved me up on a horse and I 120 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 5: was horse back for about about six and a half hours. 121 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 5: What and we're going out together and cattle bringing the 122 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 5: cattle in. Then I worked the cattle and then I 123 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 5: got back to the the place where we started and 124 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: got the cattle pinned and everything. And then I called 125 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 5: this cowboy over theng guy about six foot five, and 126 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: I said, I said, I want you to stand right here, 127 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 5: and I'm going to fall off his horse and you 128 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: catch me. And so that's what I did, and then 129 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 5: he caught me. 130 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 6: You are of the generation where when you say like 131 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: a jack of all trades, they're actually legitimate trades. Like 132 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 6: you are you you have experience and the ability to 133 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 6: like actually perform job functions and useful things. 134 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: Whereas like my generation, like I'm a jack of all trades. 135 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 6: It's like I can hacky sack, I co host a 136 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 6: podcast and I play make Believe. 137 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 5: Well. I used to do almost anything. 138 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: I believe it now. 139 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 5: Uh. When I turned six, Yeah, I forgot about half 140 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 5: of what I ever knew. When I turned seventy, I 141 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 5: lost about a quarter more of that. When I turned eighty, 142 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: I forgot anything. Had to hit my marks and change 143 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 5: my lines. I don't even know how to run anymore. 144 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: Oh man, Brett, you are, you're so versatile. How did that? 145 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: How did that translate into into basketball? When you were 146 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: asked to come play coach Whitey on one Truth? 147 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 5: Yes, well apparently, and all those boys saw every old 148 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 5: man in California and they couldn't find anybody. It was 149 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: tough that they were happening, happy with it to be 150 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 5: the coach. 151 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 152 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 5: And I guess they expanded. Maybe they saw people over 153 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: in Arizona too, I don't know. But they finally called 154 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 5: my manager and said, would Barry Corbin come into town 155 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 5: and talk to us about a part in our television 156 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 5: show One Tree Hill. And he called me and I said, 157 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 5: are they paying the way? He said yeah? And I 158 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 5: said they're going to put me in the hotel and 159 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: give me a rent car? He said yeah. I said, 160 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: all right, I'll be there. There's that kind of thing 161 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: that all ate gents have. 162 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 6: It. 163 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 5: It's your line of what I call shaker and bs sure, 164 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 5: and I've got that in Spade. I mean, it's something 165 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: that I learned from New York agents when I was 166 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: in New York. 167 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: I was gonna say because that's not that doesn't feel 168 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 2: like a vibe that would be on a ranch a lot. 169 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: It seems like a New York you gotta yeah. 170 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. So I sat in and uh and just bluffed 171 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 5: talk to them. I never mentioned I've never seen a 172 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 5: basketball game. Yes, I know you mentioned that. I knew 173 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 5: nothing about basketball except your bounce this ball around and 174 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 5: trying to get it over here and try to get 175 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 5: into it. I don't, but I never cared anything about that. 176 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 6: Which is so funny about that is that you did 177 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 6: the opposite of what most actors do. 178 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 5: Right. 179 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 6: There's the thing actors do when they're like up for 180 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 6: a job, like especially commercial acting. I'll be like, great, 181 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 6: we're only gonna audition you if you can ride a horse, 182 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 6: and every actor goes, I can ride a horse. 183 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: That's the last thing that you ought to say. Yeah, 184 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 5: what what you ought to say? And what Ben Johnson 185 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 5: always said. Ben Johnson was the best horseman in the movies. 186 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 5: He see, yeah, I ride a little bit. Yeah, and 187 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 5: that's what you that's what you need to say. Now, 188 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 5: I've got a story about a guy who who. 189 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 6: It was your wife just shook her head in the background, 190 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 6: which makes me think this is going to be a 191 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 6: good thing. 192 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 5: It is. It is a good story. She doesn't know 193 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 5: this story really, but this was a fellow that was 194 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 5: that he told him he could ride. And I was 195 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 5: playing the bad guy in this thing, in this Magnificent seven. 196 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: It was it was not it was not the movie. 197 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 5: It was a television cheeri and I was playing the 198 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 5: bad guy in this episode. And I had a There 199 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 5: was one scene where we're chasing a wagon and me 200 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 5: and my gang and my accomplished the head of my 201 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: uh you know, my operation. I was running a body house. 202 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 5: Uh but it was like a traveling body house, a 203 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 5: bunch of tents and uh. 204 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, just clarifying. 205 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 5: And I was being made to the girls and all that, okay, 206 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: But they were trying to trying to rescue the girls 207 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: from men. They had them all in this wagon. So 208 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: I got my gang together and I'm out and we're 209 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 5: out horseback. We got to come off a hill and 210 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: run down this hill and run beside the wagon. The 211 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 5: camera car on the other side of the wagon. They're 212 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 5: shooting across the driver on onto us chasing the wagon 213 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 5: and uh, my uh head henchman has said he could ride, 214 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: and uh, I watched him walk up to the horse 215 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 5: and that wasn't going to work. And uh, I said, 216 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: you know, he might really ought to be doubled in 217 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 5: this scene. And he said, what do you mean. I said, well, 218 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: we're going to come off this hill and I'm going 219 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 5: to have to be riding pretty fast catch this wagon 220 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 5: because he's running pretty fast and we're pretty far behind, 221 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 5: so I'm going to have to really give him a 222 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: little little nudge. 223 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: And you know your horse. 224 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm not sure that you want to do 225 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 5: that and he said, oh no, no, it'll be it'll 226 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 5: be fine, and it'll be good. All right. We'll stay 227 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 5: behind me, don't get in front of me because I 228 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 5: can't help you if you're in front of me. And 229 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 5: the okay, so here we come. We did did a 230 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 5: half half speed rehearsal. You know, you come off kind 231 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 5: of just a little little past trot, a little lope 232 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 5: down the hill. That's okay. He did fine. I said, okay, 233 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: now this is going to be a picture here and 234 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of put the steel to him, 235 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 5: so be ready, I said, okay, I said, now remember 236 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 5: what they told you. You want to you want to 237 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: hold the reins in your left hand and you hold 238 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 5: them the tail of the reins because you're gonna have 239 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 5: to do something with your other hand with and your 240 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 5: in your right hand, and you just kind of pretend 241 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: to be whipping your horse. Don't do it, but just 242 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: kind of pretend to do it, just to give you 243 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 5: something to do. Well, I knew that wasn't gonna work. 244 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 5: But what happened was I I got to gave my 245 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 5: horse spur and he jumped off, and he started running 246 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: down that hill you know, pretty fast. 247 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: Especially to horses going downhill, And I. 248 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: Said, stay stayed behind me. Well, all of a sudden, 249 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: I heard this thundering noise coming up to my right 250 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 5: wagons to my left. I kind of glanced over there, 251 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 5: and this guy is sitting up there and he's got 252 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 5: shaddle horn like that with both hands. Oh, rains are 253 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 5: flopping side. That horse is run away. He's got his 254 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 5: head stuck out in front of him, and he was 255 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: we're in seeing me valley. I thought he was going 256 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 5: to be in Los Angeles downtown before I could catch him. 257 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: I mean, he was going, but he was on flat 258 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: out run away. 259 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: Sure. He had a terrified expression on his face. 260 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: Oh oh. 261 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 5: His eyes were bugging out of his head, and he. 262 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 6: Scario, Yeah, scream of the school does not make for 263 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 6: the best henchman. 264 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: They said, cut. And then now I saw. I saw 265 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 5: two wranglers down there behind two trees, and he was 266 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: going right between those trees, and they came out and 267 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 5: stopped his horse. My gosh, But I told him then, 268 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 5: I said, you know, anytime you have to ride pasted 269 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 5: a walk, get a double. 270 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: Get a double. 271 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: Well, you didn't need a double, as coach White, even 272 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: though you knew nothing about basketball. 273 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 5: But what I did this was this was the middle 274 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: of March madness when they when I went and talked 275 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: to him. 276 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So I. 277 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: Came home and went to my favorite bar, sat there 278 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 5: drinking beer and watching basketball. But I wasn't watching the players. 279 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 5: I was watching the coaches. Yeah, and they all looked 280 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 5: like they had their cholesterol sticking out of their ears, 281 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 5: and they were screaming and carrying on hollering. I thought, well, 282 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 5: nobody can live past thirty five if they're going to 283 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 5: be act that way all the time. So I decided, well, 284 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 5: this coach is going to be kind of like Yoda 285 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 5: off the court, but on the court, he's going to 286 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 5: be absolutely the most terrible person in the world. And 287 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 5: so that's what I did. Wow when I got here, 288 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: when I got here, when I first got here, Yeah, 289 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 5: the coach that actually put the play together, and I 290 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 5: forgot his name now, but anyway, he did the one 291 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 5: with Gene Hackman Hoosiers and well, yeah, but he said, 292 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 5: do you want to come and watch us run some 293 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 5: plays in the morning? And I said no, And he said, well, 294 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 5: if you don't watch us run plays, you're not going 295 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 5: to know what's happening. I said, I can watch you 296 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 5: run plays from now Christmas and I still don't want 297 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 5: to know. But I don't have to know what's happening. 298 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 5: All I've got to know is is how to look 299 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 5: like I know what's happening. Yeah, because I've played jet pilots, 300 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 5: I've played brain surgeons. I've planned all kinds of things. 301 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 5: But you wouldn't want to get on the plane that 302 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 5: I'm piloting. You wouldn't want to let me do brain 303 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: surgery on you. You wouldn't want me to do anything. 304 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 5: You wouldn't want me to fix your plumbing. But I'm 305 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: not you know, I do know how to look like 306 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 5: I can do anything. Yeah, and he's okay. 307 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: So that's a secret. You just got to set. 308 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: And you got it. 309 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 5: You gotta look like you know, you know, pilot. You've 310 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 5: got to know which switches to switch first, and you 311 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: gotta know yeah, old old stuff work, and then it's 312 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 5: it's easy. 313 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: Get this gang. 314 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 6: Ray, the founder of Friends with Benefits, the convention company 315 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 6: that runs these amazing events that we are currently at, 316 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 6: has been working on and designed a one Tree Hill 317 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 6: themed Airbnb set and where else but Wilmington, North Carolina 318 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 6: and get this gang. It is available for booking now 319 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: on the Airbnb app. 320 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: This is such a cool idea. I remember us talking 321 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: about this a while ago and we never actually followed 322 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: through that. I'm so glad somebody else did. 323 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: Guys. 324 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: The FWBT team, led by Ray, Brittany and Wanita, along 325 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: with a ton of help from volunteers, are officially turning 326 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: Trick back into the actual trick, like the nightclub in 327 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: the show. For more updates about that and other events, 328 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: follow f WB on Instagram at f w B Charity Events. 329 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: Had you filmed anything in Wilmington before, Yes, because I 330 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: know there was a lot of things happening in this town, 331 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: especially Yeah. 332 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 5: I did a movie of the Week with them with 333 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 5: Dane Lad not not dyinge Cheryl led Cheryl Ladd Yeah, 334 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 5: and I was I was going to kill her. I 335 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 5: was killer. 336 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: So was this a show then one of the really 337 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: great like good guy roles that you'd gotten, because it 338 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: sounds like maybe you were cast a lot as the 339 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: villain or. 340 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 5: The mostly not not bad guy. I'm not really good 341 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 5: bad guy because I can I don't look really look 342 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 5: like I'm cruel. 343 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 6: And if I can jump in here, you you have 344 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 6: played two of my favorite good guy historical figures, Lyndon 345 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 6: Johnson and Santa Claus. 346 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 347 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 6: My question is which one did you feel more pressure 348 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 6: to get right? 349 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 5: Uh? Well, I knew that it didn't look like Lyndon Johnson, 350 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 5: and I knew I was I got alopecia, so I 351 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: don't have any hair, So I knew I didn't want 352 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 5: to wear a wig, so I just wore the hat 353 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 5: all the time. And I knew I didn't want to 354 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 5: put on a big nose hanging down over my mouth, 355 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 5: you know, And I mean that really disrupted my lunch 356 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: real bad. Yeah, So, uh, I just I just kind 357 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 5: of played I kind of got his voice, you know, 358 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 5: but I didn't didn't look like him. But this was 359 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 5: a fictional thing anyway. It was it was about if 360 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: if Kennedy had had not been assassinated, and uh so 361 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: that was that was that, and the Santa Claus thing, 362 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 5: that was well, I did play play a man playing 363 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: like he was Santa Claus one time. I was in 364 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: Christmas and the smokey I put on a little Santa 365 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: Claus beard hung over my ears and stuff. But the 366 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 5: Shanta Claus thing was a cartoon, so I could just. 367 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: It's like he's in the rocket. 368 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: Gosh, I was just six years old all over again. 369 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: That's fantastic, that's great. 370 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 5: Man. 371 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 6: So obviously you had been working steadily for so long 372 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 6: when One Tree Hill came along, and then you were 373 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 6: on this show with all of these relatively green actors 374 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 6: and the show becomes a hit. What was it like 375 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 6: for you, because this wasn't your first go around, But 376 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 6: what was it like watching these very fresh young actors 377 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 6: and getting thrown into this big, successful show. 378 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: Well, I knew there were gonna be some mistakes made, 379 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 5: and I knew that I couldn't I could not warn 380 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 5: anybody about those mistakes, so I just I pretty much 381 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 5: acted like the coach with the cash. 382 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: You know you're talking about like just on set mistakes 383 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: of like within filmmaking or what kind of mistakes you're 384 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: talking about, And why did you feel like you. 385 00:23:51,600 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 5: Were Well, I knew that they they were to it. 386 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 5: When you're doing your first television show, you're nervous. Yeah, 387 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 5: and uh, in order to make you not be nervous, 388 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 5: it's for me not to be nervous. Yeah, And uh 389 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 5: so what what I would do? I just I just 390 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 5: kind of, uh make a little hint of it by Yeah, 391 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 5: unless somebody just came and asked. 392 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: Me something I wish i'd asked you for more. 393 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 5: Chad did a few times. 394 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: That's great, and uh. 395 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: Uh I think I helped him. I don't know whether 396 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 5: I did or not. 397 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure you did. So let's talk about Wilmington real quick, 398 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: because you know you had been here once before to film. 399 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: Then you came to to Wilmington and lived here in 400 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: between here and Texas for the ten years that well, 401 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: I guess how many seasons did you do with us? 402 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 5: Three? 403 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 6: Six? 404 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: Only three? 405 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: Three? 406 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that blows my mind. Berry. You just 407 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: are such an integral part of this show. I imagine 408 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: you with us for so much longer. 409 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 6: It's also because we saw Whitey in an episode in 410 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 6: season six. 411 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: Oh that's true. 412 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 6: I guess before we get in to the Wilming time 413 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 6: at all, I wanted to ask when you signed on 414 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 6: to the show, what was sort of the expectation. Where 415 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 6: did they tell you were going to be around for 416 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 6: a long time? Was the idea that it was sort 417 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 6: of a smaller arc? 418 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: What was No? 419 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 5: I was a regular in the show in the first 420 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: three seasons. 421 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: And that was the expectation. 422 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 4: They let you know, Okay, oh yeah, that's so great. 423 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 5: Yeah. So I mean if they if they don't have 424 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 5: you as a recurring character, they can't expect you to 425 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: drop all your other vision issues. Yeah. 426 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: So when you were living here then, did you go 427 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: find a ranch nearby, some sort of local place you 428 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: could go ride horses? Did you miss it? What did 429 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: you do? What was your first like to play? 430 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: And sometimes I'd drive them the carriage, you know, those 431 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: big old perch from the horses. 432 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to go as one does on the 433 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 4: drive for the guy. 434 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 5: You know. 435 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: That's great. 436 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: They just let you right on. Once in a while, 437 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 5: i'd see a cop wearing riding one of those Australian saddles, 438 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 5: and I say, letting me, let me try that saddle 439 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 5: and get up on his horse and ride up and 440 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 5: down Front Street. 441 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 6: Could you imagine just walking up to a car park, 442 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 6: like a cop car in a parking. 443 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: Lot, being like, hey, let me get in that explore. 444 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: It one of those let me see how that rides. 445 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 5: You know, I'd find places to ride and do stuff. 446 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 6: Imagine if you didn't return the police horse and that 447 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 6: cop has to go back to the station and they're like. 448 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 4: How how did you lose your horse? 449 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 6: And the cops like he just had a beautiful western mustache, 450 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 6: and he asked really politely, exactly you were here full 451 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 6: time for three seasons. Where did you end up living 452 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 6: in Wilmington whereabouts? 453 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 5: I was at the at the little condos over there, 454 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 5: right across from the battleship. 455 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's so nice. 456 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 5: I'd go out and shut on the balcony and look 457 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 5: at the battleship and wave with the sailers and stuff. 458 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 6: And when you come back for conventions or anything else, 459 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 6: do you have any sort of favorite go to spots 460 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 6: or places you like? 461 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 5: Oh, they're all going now, oh, Charlie Brown. Charlie Brown 462 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: place I used to like to go. 463 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: It's changed a lot here. 464 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: I'd go in there and play trivia and bade him. 465 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 5: I remember when I think I was in my sixties 466 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 5: when I was playing Whitey. 467 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 4: That was before you had lost fifty percent of everything, 468 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: you know. 469 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so this was a good time for you. 470 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 5: One of the bartenders, uh, shed shed do me? Uh 471 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 5: you want another one? Pop? And I should What do 472 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 5: you want another one? Pop? And I climbed over the 473 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 5: bar cha chased them back into low be you did? 474 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 5: And then I grabbed me and scrubbed his head real good. 475 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Did you feel like the you know, it was such 476 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: an age difference on our show. It's one of the 477 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: I think one of the things that was made the 478 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: show great too, is that there were really legitimate adult 479 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: storylines and then legitimate young young people's storylines that we 480 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: were in a you know, the big the age gap 481 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: between us and the generational gaps. I think actually really 482 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: helped because it drew in a whole bunch of different audiences. 483 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: But on set, you're working so closely with these boys 484 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: that are so much younger than you, And of course 485 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: when we're in our early twenties and late teens. There's 486 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: a in general and American culture anyway. I think there's 487 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: a general sense of like disconnect and not knowing how 488 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: to ask for advice or wanting to, you know, looking 489 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: at someone who's so much older and being like, well, 490 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: you're not interesting to me. That's what you're boring because 491 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 2: I'm all about my young, exciting life, not realizing how 492 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: much wisdom, how much you mean, great stories, how interesting. 493 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: I don't case that relationship between you and the boys 494 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: on the team that you. 495 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: Were was, was on the whole good? 496 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: You know, did they ask did you guys get time 497 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: to spend together where you got to tell them stories 498 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: and they would engage with you, or was it like once. 499 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 5: In a while but rarely because I you know, I 500 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: had my own group of people, not a bunch of 501 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 5: old drunks. You know. 502 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: So you found your people. You got to Wilmington and 503 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: you found your crew. 504 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're gonna have infinitely better stories than a bunch 505 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 6: of eighteen year old Oh absolutely absolutely. 506 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 5: I did to go down to the Barbary coast once 507 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 5: in a while. No, oh yeah, dateman, Old Steve Mashini 508 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: got stabbed in there. 509 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: My god, that's right. I forgot that happened in Wilmington. 510 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: I always forget that's happened here. 511 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 512 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wondered because I always look back on 513 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: that time and wish that I had had the wherewithal 514 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: to ask for to ask like Moira and Barbara and you, 515 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: and just to ask you about your advice and your 516 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 2: life story and just take advantage of that mentorship opportunity. 517 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: But I didn't know how at that age. I know 518 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: it's sure of any of. 519 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 5: The boys in basketball, but you were also going through 520 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 5: a whole bunch of things you tell. Yeah, that's true, 521 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 5: which I wasn't aware of until I listened to your 522 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 5: book on a road trip experience. And I want to 523 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 5: tell anybody who's listening to this thing, if you have 524 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 5: not read George's book, don't read it. Get the recorded version, 525 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 5: listen to it on a road trip, or just turn 526 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: it on and listen to it at home, because you're 527 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 5: mission half of it. If you're just reading it yourself. 528 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Thanks. 529 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 5: It's a wonderful it's wonderful writing, and you read it 530 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 5: so beautifully. 531 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: Thanks. 532 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 5: I've heard, I've heard a lot of actors reading their 533 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 5: own books. Yeah, and they and they shine like they're 534 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 5: reading some kind of commercial. Oh. 535 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: Thanks, Yeah, it felt good to read that. Just get 536 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: it out of my body. 537 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 5: And you did. You did a wonderful job. And it's 538 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 5: it's also a wonderful lesson for for young women particularly. Yeah, 539 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 5: and it Oh you you you bring your tears out. 540 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 5: You're good. 541 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: Thanks, Perry. I really appreciate you reading it. Thanks. 542 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 5: Well, you're wonderful, Thank you, thank you. I wish we'd 543 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: got no each other better when when I was here. 544 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: I do too. 545 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard when you're for me. I was 546 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: so young, you know, we hard. 547 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 5: I mean, not only change we had was Ashamba stuff. 548 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: There was a couple I think in your office when 549 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: I was I don't know if it was when I 550 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: was a student or a teacher. I think it was 551 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: when I was a student, I guess, and you called me. 552 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: You would have called me in to give me advice, 553 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: and you know, i've and I did always really enjoy 554 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: those those scenes. But yeah, I'm that's one of the 555 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: beautiful things about doing these conventions and having time to 556 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: come back to Wilmington and continue to see each other. 557 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: And now that I'm in touch with your grandson Jordan, 558 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: who's just such a lovely, wonderful person. I get to 559 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: spend time more with you. I'm so grateful that through 560 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: the years we were still in touch and the relationship 561 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: is more meaningful now that we're more older. 562 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 5: Well and why yeah, yeah, well I don't know that 563 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 5: I'm any wiser. I think maybe wisdom starts leaking out 564 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 5: when you get to be about ad. 565 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: That's part of that last quarter ago. 566 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I told I told Chad today, I said, well, 567 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 5: when you get to be eighty four, you're not feeble. 568 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 5: I'll let you know about eighty five. 569 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: When you look at your life right now, you've done 570 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: so much, You've accomplished so many things you're still moving 571 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: forward to. They said, you've got this show that you're 572 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: going around telling your stories. What are things that are 573 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: still on your bucket list? Like what's on the Berry 574 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: bucket list? 575 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: We just keep working as long as I can. I mean, 576 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 5: that's a I don't have any particular You're. 577 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: Not desperate to go up in a hot air balloon 578 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: or jump out of a plane. 579 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 5: Oh no, I've been up in the hot air balloon 580 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: and I have jumped out of planes one anymore. 581 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, when you do these conventions, is there a 582 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 6: particular scene or quote that the fans want to talk 583 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 6: to you about? 584 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 5: There was one woman came in and she had a uh, 585 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 5: one of these like a like an undershirt, you know, 586 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 5: strapped thing. She pulled off her jacket and she pointed 587 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: she had tattoo up and down her arms of quote 588 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 5: on both arms, and she said, do you remember saying this? 589 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 5: I looked at him, no, and she said, well, you 590 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 5: did an episode showing should Oh oh yeah, No I 591 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 5: didn't say that. Lydie Durham said that, oh right, yes, 592 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 5: And then I looked and all those things were things 593 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 5: that why did Durham and said. 594 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: You were like a mentor to her through the TV. Yeah, 595 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: she's kind of sweet. 596 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know that that was that kind of 597 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 5: took me back a little bit. Yeah. 598 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 6: When you think about it, you know, it's been like 599 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 6: over six decades that you've been working. Is there i 600 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 6: mean the whole like your favorite job thing. 601 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: It's such a. 602 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 6: Tricky question, but is there is there a job that 603 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 6: just was it like an especially joyful or special experience? 604 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 5: Well, there was there was one particular series that I 605 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 5: did that it was probably probably the most joy and 606 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 5: ultimately the most depressing northern exposure. 607 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 4: Oh sure, that's right. 608 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: Berry and Dad had that show on all the time. 609 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 5: Same. Yes, it was a fun show to do for 610 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: the first three seasons, first, well three and a half seasons, 611 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 5: and then they changed producers. They brought in a producer 612 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 5: who didn't like the show. 613 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 3: Oh, smart business choice. 614 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 5: And he said, well, it was a deliberate oh and 615 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 5: he said when they after the show was canceled, he said, 616 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 5: one never liked the show anyway, it's too precious and 617 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 5: so you know that. But anyhow, there was a lawsuit 618 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: between the guy that broke your genal script and and 619 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 5: Universal and CBS and the producers and writers and everybody 620 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 5: a mass And I didn't know anything about it because 621 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 5: we were shooting the show in Washington. Yeah. 622 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 2: Where were you guys? Where did you shoot that? 623 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 5: Outside Seattle? 624 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: Okay? 625 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 4: It was supposed to be Alaska? 626 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, man, we couldn't shoot in Alaska because we 627 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 5: were shooting in the wintertime. You know, it's all dark 628 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 5: all the time. So we shot in Seattle, where you 629 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 5: got maybe eight hours of light, you know. 630 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: But what was so joyful about that experience? 631 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 6: It was. 632 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 5: It was just so much, so much fun to explore 633 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 5: the character and the and the town and all the 634 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 5: you know, all the all the ramifications of it. Yeah, 635 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 5: and all the people, you know, and how we changed 636 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 5: throughout the pross this. And then they brought in this 637 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: guy who didn't like it and started messing with it. 638 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 5: The scripts started getting I mean they were not undecipherable. 639 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 5: You couldn't figure out what the hell anybody was doing. 640 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 5: One year we were nominated for the Best Ensemble Cast 641 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 5: in Television for the SAG Awards. Yeah, And he sent 642 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 5: a directive up to the set up in Washington, Washington said, 643 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 5: none of the actors are allowed to speak during the 644 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 5: during the Screen Actors Guild Awards. The producers will accept the. 645 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: Award because that's who the audience wants to see. 646 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 5: And I was the only one nominated for an Emmy 647 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 5: the last in the last season. 648 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 4: Wow. 649 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 5: And they said you can't go, and I said, gosh, 650 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 5: I said, oh I can't. And he said no, you'll 651 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 5: be working on Monday. You'll be working early Monday, so 652 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 5: you can't go. And I said, well, I'll tell you 653 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 5: what that is going to look awful good on this 654 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 5: on the tabloid that the producers have told Nominee that 655 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 5: he cannot be at the awards. He said, what do 656 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 5: you mean. I mean I have a publishist too, and 657 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 5: he said uh. He he hung up, and then he 658 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 5: called back letter and said, you can go. So we 659 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 5: don't have it in the budget for limousine or hotel or. 660 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: Flat down over here. 661 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 5: Huh. I said, well, I'll tell you what I I'll 662 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 5: I'll fly down there on the last Carolines and I'll 663 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 5: stay in Motel six or whatever, the cheapest one I 664 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 5: can find, and I'll take the cheapest transport I can 665 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 5: find to the Emmy. And he said what does that mean? 666 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 5: I said, well, you'll find out. So I called a 667 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 5: friend of mine who'd been the wrangler. No no, I 668 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 5: called the wrangler up. Jimmy Madeiras and I said, Jimmy, uh, 669 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 5: have you got a couple of matching horses that kind 670 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 5: of flashy looking and uh maybe uh one I'm absolutely 671 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 5: bomb proof, the other one needs to be used to crowd. 672 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 2: Stop. 673 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 5: He said, what are you going to do? I said, 674 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 5: I'm me and my daughter are going to ride into 675 00:40:59,520 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 5: the Emmy. 676 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 3: Tell me you did this. 677 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 5: So I told Jimmy that I had to have a 678 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 5: uh two good one of them one of them can't 679 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 5: be can't be wild in anyway. The other one I 680 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 5: don't care. But uh we we need also need to 681 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 5: pass our license to ride our horses in Pasadena on 682 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 5: that Sunday and he said, what are you going to do? 683 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 5: I said, we're going to ride the horse back into 684 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 5: the image and he said, oh well, I said, how 685 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 5: much is it going to cost me? And he said, 686 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 5: not a damn thing. I want to see you do it. 687 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 5: And so they arranged for it. And at the last 688 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 5: minute they arranged me to have a flight first class 689 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 5: down to and the hotel room and the uh and 690 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 5: the limo. Well that was good because I didn't know 691 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 5: what I was going to do with the horses when 692 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 5: I got. 693 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 3: To the car, the red carpet, imagine that. 694 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 5: And so I put the wranglers in the limo. That's great, 695 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 5: and they followed us in. 696 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: So you did this? 697 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 5: Yeah? 698 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 6: What? 699 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 5: Yeah? Shannon rode in with me. 700 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: Please tell me there are photographs of this? 701 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 5: Well we got was all over the news that day, 702 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 5: but then then it completely disappeared. It did there there's 703 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 5: they did an interview with me. Why well, they didn't. 704 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 5: They didn't want to. They didn't want any publishity. 705 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: Som yeah, I get it. 706 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 5: They wanted to cancel the show. They didn't want to 707 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 5: publish they so they so my my horse took a 708 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 5: dump on them on the carpet. 709 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 3: Couldn't write it any better, and uh. 710 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 5: And and the wrangler jumped out of the limo and 711 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 5: ran off with the horses. And we walked up people cheering, 712 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 5: laughing and waving to them. You know, Shannon was slinking 713 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 5: up the side trying to keep out of out of 714 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 5: sight because she thought I was crazy. And so I 715 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 5: got up to Army Archard at the at the standing 716 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 5: there where he's interviewing celebrity arrivals, and he said, well, 717 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 5: you picked an interesting way to come into the immies. 718 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 5: Is there a story behind that? 719 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: And your producer held his brad and I. 720 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,959 Speaker 5: Said, well, yeah, apparently there wasn't there. They're not making 721 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 5: enough money selling coffee cups and sweatshirts and one thing 722 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 5: and another to be able to cover my expenses down here. 723 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 5: So I took the cheapest transport I could find, I said, 724 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 5: CBS and Universe leand there somewhere. So I hadn't worked 725 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 5: for Universal or CBS. 726 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 2: You know what the world is not you isn't a 727 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 2: better place for it, and you are not hurting for work. 728 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: You've continue to ges. I mean, your career has been amazing. 729 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 6: Well, I can't think of a better story to go 730 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 6: out on and taking a dump the horse, not on 731 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 6: the red. 732 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: Carpet, on the red carpet. Well, before we wrap up, Barry, 733 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 2: is there anything you want to say to the One 734 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 2: Tree Hill fans that you know have been a part 735 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 2: of this experience with us and with you. 736 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 5: Yes, I would like to say to the old One 737 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 5: Tree Hill fan thank you for your loyalty. When I 738 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 5: first did this show, I thought, well, this is is 739 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 5: going to be disposable because it's a number one. That's 740 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 5: your teenage drama, right, I've been through high school. I 741 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 5: don't want to go through that angst anymore, and so 742 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 5: I thought this is not a good idea. But I 743 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 5: did it, and I'm glad I did and it was 744 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 5: a wonderful experience, the whole thing, and I've made some 745 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 5: beautiful lifelong friends here. So thank you for all your loyalty, 746 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 5: and stay loyal. Bring bring in your grandchildren, get them, 747 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 5: get them to watching it. I've got We've We've got 748 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 5: people here, mothers and daughters who were grown people now 749 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 5: and the main thing it brings them together is reruns 750 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 5: of One Tree. Hell yeah, and thank you, thank you, Erry. 751 00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 6: This is the longest we've ever got to sit and check, 752 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 6: but I can do it for a lot longer. You 753 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 6: are a delight to speak to and your stories are tremendous. 754 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 4: Yes. 755 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 2: Is there any place people can follow along with the 756 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: next things that you have going on? Do you have 757 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 2: a website or. 758 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 5: Instagram Www dot Barrycorbin dot com. 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