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Speaker 2: Problem solved touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty right there right The latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 2: Bring it on, Break it on.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Saving Hollin slammed the ground by fooda baker like

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Speaker 3: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I skirting nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: I'm still on the the forever weight. I do like

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Speaker 2: that term. The forever has nothing to do with the

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Speaker 2: Purge movies. Danny Surrex, so don't even over there, okay.

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Speaker 2: Is actually props to Darren Rban who coined the forever weight.

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Speaker 2: KELVC consulting the Polipigskin Division does have one micro suggestion, though,

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Speaker 2: what's that to evolve the concept here on Cardinals Underground

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Speaker 2: presented by Pacific Office Automation. What about the addition of

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Speaker 2: a countdown clock? Of course I'm ripping that off Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl Sunday and many other mega events, right, But it's

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Speaker 2: a mega event when you throw the countdown clock up

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Speaker 2: there and in real time. Can't you make that happen

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Speaker 2: technically on easycardinals dot com since technically he is in

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Speaker 2: charge of the website, is he not d.

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Speaker 4: Daren's in charge of every I'm not going to finish

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Speaker 4: that because I know that's gonna get pulled for the open,

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna stop myself saying that line. Yes, Darren

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Speaker 4: is in charge of Easycardinals dot Com. I said that

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Speaker 4: fast enough to where they can't clip it of Darren

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Speaker 5: I could do that if if you felt strongly about it.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm sorry. Once you mentioned the Purge, I kept

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Speaker 5: waiting for the cool Paul Calvic going down all the

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Speaker 5: Purge names.

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Speaker 2: I don't have those at my disposal. I mean, just

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Speaker 2: off the top of my head, there's the Purge, the Purge, anarkery,

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Speaker 2: the first Purge of Forever Purge in the Purge election year.

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Speaker 4: It could be our new sponsor. I do I.

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Speaker 5: Hope, so I could do the Uh, I don't want

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Speaker 5: to purge any kind of countdown clock. I mean we

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Speaker 5: could have that. That's we're getting. It seems like we're

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Speaker 5: getting closer to that, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kyler Murray, wait for it has been activated. So

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Speaker 2: it's not just lip service, right, not just an announcement,

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Speaker 2: not just telling the media maybe what they want to

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Speaker 2: hear or what the opposition needs to hear. He has

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Speaker 2: been activated, So that can only mean one thing, right,

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Speaker 2: Danny Surrett, Come.

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Speaker 4: On now, Kyler Murray's gonna play Sunday. You're barring a

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Speaker 4: step back, which knock on one none of us are

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Speaker 4: expecting at practice Kyler Murray's back.

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Speaker 5: That was metal knocked on metal.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought it was. I thought this table was

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Speaker 4: like one on the outside.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: I thought this was like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So look, the schedule reads that the season opener September tenth,

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Speaker 2: but we'd like to disagree the real season opener November

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Speaker 2: twelfth against Atlanta. You are hitting the big red reset

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Speaker 2: button in a lot of different ways. This isn't really

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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals until you get your franchise quarterback to

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Speaker 5: I would agree with that. I think this is that

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Speaker 4: I never thought, sitting at a roundtable on a podcast

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Speaker 4: with Darren Urban that I would come off as the pessimist.

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Speaker 4: But I will do my best here.

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Speaker 5: I'll give you a run for your money.

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Speaker 4: I agree that this is the turn of a page

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Speaker 4: because the play you're going to get from Kyler Murray

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Speaker 4: Just saying the type of quarterback and type of player

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Speaker 4: that Kyler Murray is, I don't want to take that away.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely his return will elevate this offense and in term,

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Speaker 4: this expectation that Kyler Murray is putting on his Superman

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Speaker 4: the final eight games the Cardinals are gonna possibly win

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Speaker 4: six or seven of them. When you're looking at their opponents.

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Speaker 4: That's just not realistic in my mind, that Kyler's gonna

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Speaker 4: coming off this Browns game in Cleveland specifically, Yes, it

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is going to elevate, I don't want people

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Speaker 5: I'm not disobointed. Darde, You're a fine, fine pessimist. Don't

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Speaker 5: tell Craig Greelu. It'll mess up that whole thing of

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Speaker 5: the three of us he's got. And I'm not sitting

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Speaker 5: here thinking, you know, even Jonathan Gannon said, uh, Monday,

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Speaker 2: He's starting Sunday, okay, barring a setback, setback, he did

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Speaker 5: He didn't say that, but like he's not sure that

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Speaker 5: we're going to see the Kyler Murray were always used

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Speaker 5: to sing, just because it's been a while since Kyler

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Speaker 5: Murray has played football, and I don't necessarily disagree with that.

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Speaker 5: So I'm I'm in agreement with Danny on this one

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that was caught on camera.

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Speaker 2: But Shaun Watson puts some ugly football out there and

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Speaker 2: he still got to win. The town eventually took over.

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Speaker 2: There's Kyler watching Deshaun Watson, and I'm standing behind Kyler

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Speaker 5: Could you see over him?

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Speaker 4: Don't take that, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Once again, he's you know what, where's my list? I'm

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Speaker 2: writing that down right here, Darren Urban right behind the name.

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Speaker 4: Dave Pass making a list right around holiday time.

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Speaker 2: National Association of Diminutive Americans, Dave Pash for comments detrimental

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Speaker 2: against two two at well and Greg Dortsch Now Darren

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Speaker 2: Urban accordingly right there. Okay, So if you're watching Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 2: game winning plays, game changing plays, Deshaun Watson did that.

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Speaker 2: An elite, highly paid quarterback, obviously, Deshaun Watson. You ask

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Speaker 2: any player in any locker room, Deshaun Watson, what's his number? Two? Thirty.

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Speaker 2: See that's what they say. His number is two thirty.

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson's not number four. His number is two thirty.

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Speaker 2: If that's how much guaranteed money he has in his contract,

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Speaker 2: that's what Deshaun Watson is known for. And there he was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he couldn't complete a five yard out. I

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Speaker 2: mean some of his checkdowns hit the turf, but he

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Speaker 2: so many different ways, and eventually, once again, the talent

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Speaker 2: went out. So for Kyler, is he going to be rusty? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: You know, not rusty maybe. I mean Deshaun Watson least

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Speaker 2: there's there's this aspect of it. What does having a

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Speaker 2: How does it elevate everyone else? Because you go into

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Speaker 2: win when you have your guy playing quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, when you have a franchise quarterback, part of their

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Speaker 4: role is to elevate the players around them. I think

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Speaker 4: that's going to be up to Kyler Murray and that's

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Speaker 4: something he's going to have to do. That's not something

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Speaker 4: times change. We've heard from his teammates and this coaches

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Speaker 4: meeting rooms understanding this new offense. We have seen a

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Speaker 4: different side of Kyler in terms of not just like

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Speaker 4: The good news is him coming on to the field

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Speaker 4: with majority of his receivers. He's thrown to Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 4: plenty of times. He has experience with Trey McBride, with

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Speaker 4: it's really just Michael Wilson that he hasn't had a

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Speaker 4: ton of experience with, which is good. But there's still

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Speaker 4: aspects of this offense that he's going to have to

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Speaker 5: I For me, like, I don't even I don't. I

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Speaker 5: care about like what receivers he's throwing toward. For me,

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Speaker 5: this whole thing is about Kyler and himself. For me,

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Speaker 5: when he goes back on the field, how comfortable is

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Speaker 5: blow up. Now that said it was a weird thing.

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Speaker 5: It was like it was non contact, It wasn't even

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's more or less mentally challenging because

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Speaker 2: it was a non contact injury. If you had been

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Speaker 2: three hundred pounders twisting you like a pretzel, is that

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Speaker 2: a season any knee injury.

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Speaker 4: I say this as someone who has not suffered a

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Speaker 4: torn acl knock on wood twice again and doesn't play

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Speaker 4: I can't I can't let them touch me because of

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Speaker 4: This makes sense in my head, and I don't think

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Speaker 4: the way it did that, even though that would still

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Speaker 4: I will say I am very excited for this accuracy

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Speaker 5: I I there are just so many things that he

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Speaker 2: What if the pass protection, though, is the level of

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Speaker 5: Although it was funny, I looked it up. On his

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Speaker 2: And only the coaches know how much quicker should the

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Speaker 2: have been thrown. Let's zoom out talking about rookie quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: and you can apply this to any quarterback. Really, look

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Speaker 2: I looked it up. Bryce Young has been sacked twenty

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Speaker 4: The record that the Cardinals have Houston's first overall pick

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Speaker 2: The opposite of a thank you note? Because that's what CJ.

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Speaker 2: So okay, all that is moot, and that is secondary

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Speaker 4: I think that is also something that we will see

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Speaker 4: It's just something he hasn't really had to do. It's

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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily disagree, but I also think there's a

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Speaker 2: Here's the big question. And see I was on Red

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Speaker 5: I'm not going there.

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Speaker 2: Dare I say? The only time in Kyler's career where

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Speaker 4: I think that's a really good point of how Kyler

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Speaker 4: this week, who was dealing with a toe, and the

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Speaker 4: drop off of not having those two was significant. And

435
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Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure if that's mostly on Keanta Ingram,

436
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 4: who has struggled to get positive yardage this year, is

437
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Speaker 4: that more of the blocking is at the situations that

438
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 4: he's being put in in games. But when you didn't

439
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Speaker 4: have Connor and you didn't have de Mercado, it was

440
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Speaker 4: very clear that the Cardinals were not going to be

441
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Speaker 4: able to be a balanced team.

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Speaker 2: What if your offensive line starting O line left or right.

443
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Speaker 2: Because we haven't even hit practice so far yet this week,

444
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Speaker 2: we have no idea. But what if you start this

445
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: game the way you finished last game and your offensive

446
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: line left to right is Calvin Beacham, Dennis Daly, a

447
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: third stringer, yelled a frohold at center. Carter O'Donnell made

448
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 2: his regular season NFL debut last week at right guard,

449
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Speaker 2: and then the rookie Paris Johnson Junior. I got two

450
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Speaker 2: words for you, Max Protect. And the Cardinals actually did

451
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Speaker 2: run Max Protect at the very end of that game,

452
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Speaker 2: and you had an eleven yard completion from Clayton Tune

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Speaker 2: to Hollywood Brown, who was one of his better throws

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Speaker 2: towards the end of that game. And I'll be honest

455
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Speaker 2: with you, I wonder to myself, should that have been

456
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Speaker 2: an adjustment earlier in the game, Max Protect? Because Hollywood

457
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Speaker 2: Brown is beating everyone and everything that defenses are throwing

458
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Speaker 2: at him. I don't care if you put two receivers

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Speaker 2: out there and you block seven, Hollywood's winning his matchup.

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Speaker 5: That's a fair point. And you know that with Kyler

461
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Speaker 5: Murray at quarterback, Hollywood Brown is going to get eyeballs

462
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Speaker 5: on him down the field.

463
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Speaker 2: And they have instant chemistry.

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Speaker 5: Yea, So Paul Calvic new assistant.

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Speaker 2: Coach, big consideration as to and then.

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Speaker 4: Calvc coaching converse that has that been used yet?

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Speaker 1: Ever?

468
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Speaker 2: It probably should have been. But no, we're not laying

469
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Speaker 2: claim to that one.

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Speaker 4: You were You did say you were coaching up Craig

471
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Speaker 4: and KVV.

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Speaker 2: That's true. I mean, my hands are my heart?

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Speaker 4: Does that fall under the Calvis consulting umbrella.

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Speaker 2: There's only so many hours in the day by the

475
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Speaker 2: time I'm done coaching up Craig Riolo. I mean, you know,

476
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: come on now, I'm exhausted at that point, let's be honest.

477
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Speaker 2: So but yeah, the question becomes, too, is what does

478
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Speaker 2: that mean for Kyler's confidence? It's a lot different if

479
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: Kyler's in the huddle and he's got his franchise left

480
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Speaker 2: tackle d J Humphries there. I'll tell you a quick

481
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: funny story from Week two last year at the Raiders.

482
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Speaker 2: DJ Humphreyes went out for one play in that game.

483
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Speaker 2: He got banged up and he had to come out

484
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Speaker 2: because he got medical attention on the field. He comes

485
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Speaker 2: to the sideline. I don't know if he just lost

486
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: his win, whatever, it was a parent he was okay,

487
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Speaker 2: and he was instantly ready to go back in. I

488
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 2: found out later that chance Ler Jones was yelling at Kyler,

489
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: you better hope he comes back because Chandler was getting

490
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Speaker 2: stemmy by DJ the entire game. And apparently someone was

491
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: talking something to Chandler Jones like you ain't getting to

492
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Speaker 2: the quarterback, are you are your chan And he was

493
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: getting really frustrated, and then the very and and DJ was,

494
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Speaker 2: I mean he always he's always a dog on game day,

495
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: but he's like, get off me, I'm going back in.

496
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Speaker 2: He didn't want anyone talking in from the training staff.

497
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Speaker 2: I'm going back in. So there's got to be a

498
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Speaker 2: level of confidence in Kyler Murray and having DJ Humphreys

499
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Speaker 2: your franchise left tackle out there, right.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I would I would think so, although I would

501
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Speaker 5: think there'd be well, I would hope there'd be some

502
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Speaker 5: confidence too with Beach, although obviously Beach and Kyler.

503
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Speaker 2: What was the nickname last year Beach in the backups?

504
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: That was it was like a fifties band, fifties cover.

505
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Speaker 5: Band, the last man standing. He was, he was, it's

506
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Speaker 5: gonna be I do I mean the offense? I asked

507
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Speaker 5: Jonathan Gan on Monday if the offensive line injuries could

508
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 5: impact whether Kyler would start Sunday. He said no, So.

509
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Speaker 2: So that doesn't fall under the umbrella setback a shuffled

510
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: offensive line. No, it would be something else. Okay, I'm

511
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: just just curious about that.

512
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Speaker 4: I am curious when we get our first look at

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Speaker 4: practice during the open portion.

514
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Speaker 2: On Wednesday, your favorite part of the week.

515
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Speaker 4: Why do you have to say like that.

516
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

517
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Speaker 5: I'm just saying it. I know you love it.

518
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Speaker 4: I don't know what you're applying. I love being outside

519
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Speaker 4: and watching practice some fresh air. AnyWho, what point was

520
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Speaker 4: I making? Oh?

521
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Speaker 2: Does the fresh air help or hinder your sneezing?

522
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Speaker 4: It helps because it's dright. What is with the two

523
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Speaker 4: of you? I'm sorry that I got allergies and we

524
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Speaker 4: were back in the Midwest and fall in Cleveland and

525
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Speaker 4: I was sneezing.

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Speaker 2: Paul, I was impressed you actually kept count on Saturday

527
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Speaker 2: how many.

528
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Speaker 4: Sneeze I think it was so ridiculous. It was sixteen

529
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Speaker 4: and I could have Sam huff in our video department.

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Speaker 4: Who is my roommate on the road vouch for that,

531
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Speaker 4: because at one point I looked at it. I said,

532
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Speaker 4: you don't have to keep saying bless you, and she said,

533
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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 5: Not that not Sam Huff, the former Giants linebacker just

535
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Speaker 5: to me, which we.

536
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Speaker 4: Actually saw at the Pro Football Hall of Fame the bus.

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Speaker 2: That's nice.

538
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Speaker 4: What point was I? Oh, back to my point.

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Speaker 5: When we get a chance to go out there to

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Speaker 5: watch practice.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm curious to see how different it looks

542
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Speaker 4: from what we have seen from Kyler, with the exception

543
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Speaker 4: of him now throwing to Hollywood Brown and Michael Wilson

544
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Speaker 4: if he's out there, because what Darren I finish. That's

545
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Speaker 4: my point. That's my point. Golee, what a day.

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Speaker 5: Wow. I was just gonna say, I'm hoping he trolls

547
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 5: us and throws to all the practice squad receivers again

548
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Speaker 5: during the open part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good. There's well, I mean, hey, uh,

550
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Speaker 2: hopefully he doesn't speak that into existence. What is the

551
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Speaker 2: status of a Michael Wilson. We don't know. We'll see

552
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Speaker 2: about that. Well, they did.

553
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Speaker 5: They did release Daniel Ayers from the practice squad when

554
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Speaker 5: they activated Kyler Okay, So I would assume that would

555
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 5: mean one less body you need a practice for wide receiver,

556
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Speaker 5: which would seem to bode well for Michael Wilson.

557
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So anyway, Drew Petsing was asked what do you

558
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: want to see out of Kyler Murray and he said

559
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: the big thing was just everything's clean from an operation

560
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: standpoint in the offense right, and then the decision making.

561
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: You know, how you get in and out of the huddle,

562
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, and you know the communication.

563
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: So it's amazing. The first five things he listed really

564
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with football, at least after the snap.

565
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Speaker 2: Everything was pre snap pretty much that he listed. I

566
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: guess decision making would be what's the balls in play?

567
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: But there are a lot of other things. Now, he

568
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: has four years of experience, he's been at two Pro Bowls,

569
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: he's played in a postseason game. But there is going

570
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: to be some of that rust we would expect. On

571
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Speaker 2: the other hand, Kyler comes in with the supreme confidence.

572
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: When he was activated off the practice list, Michael Wilson

573
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Speaker 2: told us at the end of an interview that Kyler

574
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: had come up to the receivers as a group and

575
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: said as soon as I'm fully healthy, I'm going to

576
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: beat most of you in the forty. So he always

577
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: asks confidence Kyler Murray and so you know, we'll see

578
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: what that translates into. And against an Atlanta defense that

579
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: features Kalais Campbell, by the way, who gobbled up Josh

580
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: Dobbs for his safety in the last games they lost

581
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: the pastor not at the very end. Khalis has three

582
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: sacks in his last five games, by the way, But

583
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: they did put Grady Jarrett on ir just last week,

584
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: was one of the big defensive linemens.

585
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 5: So how about Josh Dobbs doing what he did.

586
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: For me something that's great for him?

587
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Speaker 5: I agree.

588
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Speaker 4: I did think it was interesting that like NASA and

589
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: unless I'm forgetting NASA, and like all these other people

590
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: are like tweeting about like that history and I'm like,

591
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Speaker 4: where was all the stension when Josh Dobbs led the

592
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: Cardinals to win over the Cowboys. But yeah, the pastor

593
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: here nor there.

594
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: The pastor on nickname is about two months old here.

595
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Speaker 4: In the az I think I think longer. I think

596
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: he's been using that nickname actually for quite quite some

597
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: time with himself.

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00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that predated us, but.

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Speaker 4: Again, that was also a tweet that like, that's a

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Speaker 4: new nickname, which clearly haven't been following the car. You're

601
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Speaker 4: going to name drop, I wasn't going to so Adams

602
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: or Adams.

603
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Atlanta's. Atlanta's defense has given up one

604
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown in the last six games, Josh Dobbs eighteen

605
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: yard scamper. So there you go. That was that was

606
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: entertaining stuff, no doubt about it. What else about this

607
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: game and going into I mean, look that Cleveland game.

608
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Speaker 2: Anybody want to have a comment. I mean, first off,

609
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: Kyler's timing couldn't be better based on how historically poor

610
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: the offensive showing was, right, I mean the fact you

611
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: get to wipe the slate clean and nobody's looking back,

612
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: thankfully at that offensive performance in Cleveland. Everyone's looking ahead

613
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: now to Atlanta. So in terms of timing, it's already

614
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: a win.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't even know how to describe what

616
00:29:54,280 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: we saw offensively, nine punts, two turnovers, a turnover downs.

617
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 4: There was nothing. I mean, like, it's one thing that, yes,

618
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: Arizona was going up against the number one defense in

619
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Speaker 4: Cleveland almost across the board in terms of where they

620
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: lead the league, but they weren't even giving themselves a

621
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: chance to compete offensively. And the defense. Once again, I

622
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: don't know if I would say they did enough to win,

623
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: but I do think that the defense did a good

624
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: job handling the situations they were put in, which was

625
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: no break because the offense couldn't get a first down.

626
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 4: You were putting the Browns in short fuel position. It's difficult.

627
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: And there was a funky play that touched down to

628
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: Amari Cooper that the pass bounced off Dante Still's face

629
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Speaker 4: mask and traveled twenty yards happen to land perfectly in

630
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Speaker 4: Cooper's hands in the end zone. Even though Jalen Thompson

631
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: was right there, just felt like things were not going

632
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: the Cardinals way.

633
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Speaker 2: Yeah, time of possession was thirty six and a half

634
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: to twenty three and a half, so the defense was

635
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: definitely out there a long time time. It reminded me

636
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: a lot of the twenty fourteen playoff loss at Carolina

637
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: with Ryan Loe. Yeah, where you go back. They had

638
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: seventy eight total yards in that playoff loss against Luke

639
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: Keigley and Thomas Davis. Yeah, it reminded me it just like, Okay,

640
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: you just realized that the quarterback Ryan Linley then Clayton Tune.

641
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: Great guy, Ryan Linley.

642
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: Great guy, both a great guy, but you just they

643
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: were overmatched the moment. The defense was just too much

644
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: for him at that time, and especially when Clayton Tune

645
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: was just getting lit up from the get go and

646
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 2: defenders were all over them.

647
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: It's funny you bring that playoff game up because one

648
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: of the running backs the Cardinals were using at that

649
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: point was marrying Grice because of again because of injuries,

650
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 5: just like the Cardinals were down to their their top

651
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 5: couple of running backs.

652
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: I will say, since Arthur Smith shaped his mustache at

653
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Speaker 4: three forty five in the morning to try and turn

654
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: things around for the Falcons, would this same mantra work

655
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: if Paul grew out his mustache again for the Cardinals

656
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: his off season one?

657
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Speaker 5: Would he have to do it in the middle of

658
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: the morning or in the dead and night?

659
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how fast facial hair grows, and.

660
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Speaker 2: More important, on the same age as Arthur Smith. I

661
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: do wake up every night about three forty five, so

662
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: it's possible. It's possible.

663
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 5: Why did he do it at three forty five?

664
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe he didn't go to sleep, or

665
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: he woke up early. I don't know why he was

666
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: up at three forty five.

667
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: He couldn't go back to sleep, he said, And he

668
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: decided that moment that change was needed, both with his

669
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: team and personally, and so he shaved the mustache, although

670
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: he did also say at the press commerce towards the

671
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: end apparently said I'm already regretting it is what he said.

672
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: I think that means you should bring back your mustache.

673
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: Do your part.

674
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: Paul, Well, he's already been replaced on the mustache power pole.

675
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: Right now. It's Travis Kelcey, begrudgingly, it's Aaron Rodgers. Well,

676
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: you know, Travis Kelcey doesn't need any more spotlight daming.

677
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: And then you have Aaron Rodgers. Number two and number

678
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: three and fast charging is Aidan O'Connell, the rookie quarterback

679
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: for the Raiders. Have you seen his glorious mustache?

680
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: I think I have.

681
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's straight out of law enforcement.

682
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 5: I gotta be honest. There was a picture from the combine.

683
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 5: I need to find it somewhere where it was O'Connell.

684
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: It was j Stroud, Bryce Young, who is the other

685
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 5: was there another high pick quarterback this year.

686
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: Good question, Well, Anthony Richardson, Anthony all it was.

687
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 5: It was Anthony Richardson, CJ. Stroud, Bryce Young and Aidan O'Connell,

688
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: who I believe had the mustache and he didn't quite

689
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: look quite as built as them. And I'm like, who

690
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: is that guy? And why is he in the same

691
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 5: picture as the other three.

692
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: You do yourself a favor. Do not stand next to

693
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. You don't want to do that. That's not

694
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: in your best interest, There's no doubt about it. So, yeah,

695
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith, he's got a team that's had five straight

696
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: losing seasons their last playoff year twenty seventeen. But they're

697
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: much like the Ravens and the Browns in the following category.

698
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: They have rushed for one hundred yards plus in seven

699
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: to nine games this year and in the last two

700
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: years their second only to Baltimore in the number of

701
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: one hundred yard rushing games. They are rushed for second

702
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: to third. And if you guys remember late last season,

703
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: week seventeen out of eighteen last year, we were at Atlanta.

704
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: They Tyler Aljier. This is why I don't understand why

705
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: they drafted b Jehan Robinson, who now has fewer carries

706
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: than Tyler Algier, who was the fifth round rookie out

707
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: of BYU last year, but a former Mike linebacker. Dude

708
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: ran the ball with a vengeance and in a lost

709
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: season the end of last year, there were a lot

710
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: of business decisions being made. Nobody wanted a piece of that.

711
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 5: Algier did run pretty well against the Cardinals at the

712
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 5: end of the year.

713
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, he didn't want

714
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: any any Nobody wanted a part of tackling that guy,

715
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: and he's actually taken over more of the role and

716
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: the load because Bjehon Robinson has been held under sixty

717
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: five yards rushing five games in a row.

718
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 5: He's been held under for sixty five yards or Robingham

719
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: the touches to get more than six little.

720
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: Bit of both recently. So, but you know, they haven't

721
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: gotten a lot out of Kyle Pit's obviously the number

722
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: four pick one, Drake London a top ten pick last year,

723
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: so you know, and then Bjeon Robinson. They haven't got

724
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: a lot out of these guys in terms of opening

725
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: up the offense.

726
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: And now you're changing your quarterback Yeah, and now.

727
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: It's Taylor Heineken. Now here's your pro tip on Taylor Heinekee.

728
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gann and Nick rol is very familiar with him

729
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: from their days in the division, so they've gained planned

730
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: against him at least twice and they know what he's

731
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: all about. He does have this very unique ability to

732
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: extend plays. He's a gamer, he's a baller. He's going

733
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: to figure out these crazy ways to get it done.

734
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: He's kind of, you know, hair on fire, sort of

735
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: like an old Brett Farv type. He's just gonna gunsling

736
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: that thing around the yard. So we'll see. Honestly, I

737
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: would have much rather have seen Desmond Ridder, the inexperienced

738
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: Desmond Ridder who has struggle lane. You got Taylor Heineke,

739
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: who has a couple dozen starts under his belt over

740
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, so experience at least.

741
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, this is I don't know, redemption game

742
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: for the Cardinals d but you definitely have the opportunity

743
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 4: to take advantage of an offense that doesn't really seem

744
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: like they they're cohesive. It seems like you have a

745
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: couple of pieces, but you can't quite put it together.

746
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: To make the puzzle work.

747
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 2: So we'll see about the Cardinals in that one. Once again.

748
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, I just think is the rising tide that

749
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: lifts all boats, especially coming off that deflating loss in Cleveland,

750
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: I would expect, and look, this isn't some big proclamation

751
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: because we had this discussion earlier. If there's one constant

752
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: with this team this year, it's been the urgency, the effort,

753
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: and the intensity. Right. Think of the last couple of

754
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: years before coaching change was made and a change in GM.

755
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: How many times did we come out on a Monday

756
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, guess what they were DOA and Detroit

757
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: didn't have it. Remember that rolled loss.

758
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 5: I remember, I remember you were banging the drum hard

759
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 5: on all of those all the time.

760
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: Well, I might have made a quip that I was

761
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: ready to run an extra long set of jumper cables

762
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: from the ten bus all the way to the sideline

763
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: and hook it up to the metal bench.

764
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: I believe I somewhat remember that that was.

765
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: One joke I made. But by the time they got

766
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: to the Carolina home loss against PJ. Walker, where they

767
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: had no energy in that one playoff game in LA

768
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: playoff game in La.

769
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: Once this team fell behind, even if it wasn't by

770
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 4: a lot, you could tell mentally on the field, on

771
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: the sideline that they did not have that belief in

772
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: each and in the team as a whole to come back.

773
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: That's different now.

774
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: It was September and Kyle Vannibosch made a various stute observation.

775
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: He said, the last couple of years, you would turn

776
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: on the film and there were ten players and then

777
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: Buddha Baker. No one played with the intensity of Buddha Baker.

778
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: He stood out and above everyone else. That's now. It

779
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: is Budda Baker still the best player on defense pound

780
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: for pound, absolutely, but the disparity and effort and intensity

781
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: is no longer there. It's just it is the third rail.

782
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: With Jonathan gannon thou shouting at least bring the effort

783
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 2: and that intensity or guess what. I think a number

784
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: of the players I'm not going to name names, but

785
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: there are a number of players who are no longer

786
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: part of this roster who fell into that category. You

787
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: couldn't count on them for consistent effort all the time

788
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: and buy in and guess what. This coaching staff is

789
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: not interested in that sort of player. They're looking for

790
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: dudes who are deadly serious about the game of football.

791
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: That's fair and so that at least hasn't been a

792
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: question yet. And after a deflating game like that in

793
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: the past, it would have been right, especially for the defense.

794
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: If the defense can't believe in the offense's ability to

795
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: generate some points and at least give them a chance

796
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: to get a cup of gatorade in instead of just

797
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: a constant stream of three and outs, then that's when

798
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: you run the risk of things bottoming.

799
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 4: Now, I think too, there event situations this season around

800
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: the league where a player on defense for their team

801
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 4: has more or less made that exact comment Paul about

802
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: we have to amore because our offense can't do anything.

803
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: And you didn't hear that from the defense.

804
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: You also heard opponents when they've looked at the Cardinals

805
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: game film, like Matthew Stafford saying they really play hard.

806
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: You know the forty nine ers. When watching the Cardinals

807
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: game film going into that Week four matchup, Wow, this

808
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: is this they fly around. You could tell like it

809
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: looks different to the opponents than what they've been accustomed to.

810
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: So and I don't I don't think there's any question

811
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 5: about that. And again when we circle all the way

812
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 5: back to Kyler coming back and and where this team is,

813
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 5: Like I said, I agree with Danny. Danny is.

814
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 4: A finish, finished the sentence.

815
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: Pessimistic person. But while I don't know if if everything

816
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 5: changes wins and losses every week, I think if you

817
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 5: add in the effort that you've been seeing with Kyler

818
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: Murray back on the field, that's probably a pretty good combination.

819
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Like Jonathan Ledbetter said to the media, he told the team,

820
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: are we hanging or banging? I'm not sure how we

821
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: explained that exactly. I took it to me because he

822
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: said the same thing in our postgame radio interview. I

823
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: took it as are we hanging like hanging our heads

824
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: and feeling sorry for ourselves? Or are we banging? Going

825
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: down swinging? Yeah, that's is that the obvious translation. I

826
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: just want to make sure I was up on the

827
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: ling going.

828
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna have, We're gonna have. You start

829
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: saying that at the outset of every podcast.

830
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: Darren, you've had enough time. Where is the countdown clock?

831
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: You have your laptop there, You've been banging away. Have

832
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: you been a programming a countdown clock in Asycardinals dot Com.

833
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: I have not.

834
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 5: However, I do want to bring up because I may

835
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: have said something somewhat derogatory towards your NA is not.

836
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: A Ish National Association of Diminutive Americans NADA.

837
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 5: I was conquered pretty handily by one Danny Sirek in

838
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: Papa Shot Basketball over.

839
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: I forgot about that good reminder, Darre.

840
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: Wow, that must have hurt. I mean, Darren prided.

841
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: Some and I did it with these nails.

842
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Darren is a hoop aholock. Okay, so that

843
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: must have hurt. That must have hit pretty close to home.

844
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 5: Now I found out Danny was a baller. She played

845
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 5: in school.

846
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

847
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 4: Yep. So it was Friday night in Cleveland and a

848
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: bunch of us walked into this dive bar and Darren

849
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: was there, and it.

850
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 5: Had if the bar was literally called the dive bar.

851
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 4: I see great music selection.

852
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: See Darren has that pre programmed into his app. Google

853
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: Maps takes them directly to anything named the dive bar.

854
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: They had a bunch of arcade games, they had ski

855
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 4: ball and stuff, and they had Papa Shot and so

856
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: I had done one round before and I had done Okay,

857
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 4: so I look at Darren and I said, you want

858
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: to go? He said sure, So I go first, and

859
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: I think I had, Oh, you crushed like seventy six

860
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: and four.

861
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 5: Well the time went, yeah, you got fifty nine. I

862
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 5: had thirty four.

863
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: That's what it was. Difference of twenty So you have

864
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: forty seconds. And I remember I finished the round winning.

865
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: Isn't enough. She's now rubbing it in and I look,

866
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: I look.

867
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: At our producer standing with that's like, oh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: wipe the floor with him. And then Darren goes and

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Speaker 4: it wasn't even close.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, I'll be I'll be better prepared

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Speaker 5: next time.

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Speaker 4: I think. I think it's maybe just because, like I'm

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Speaker 4: lowered to the as the balls are rolling back right

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Speaker 4: like on my arms, I don't having to reach to

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Speaker 4: grab the basketballs and shoot them. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 4: help you out here.

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Speaker 5: I did not have the proper violence or intensity going

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Speaker 5: into that, and I will next time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right. I think this is the point of

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Speaker 2: the podcast where we cue that song by Europe that

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Speaker 2: was in the Geico commercial, right, the final countdown, Right,

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Speaker 2: I think, isn't this where we queue the final countdown

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Speaker 2: at some point here, because I just googled it up

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Speaker 2: on to make sure it was Europe.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's Europe.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize the lead singer's name, Joey Tempest. I

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Speaker 2: had no idea that's a solid lead singer name.

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Speaker 4: What is the this is I'm sorry, this is random.

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Speaker 4: What is the date of the game Sundays at the twelfth,

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Speaker 4: Yes it is, so, that'll be exactly eleven months from

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Speaker 4: Kyler tearing as acoy. That's a good countdown.

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Speaker 5: Look at you bringing the info.

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Speaker 4: You know, math, it's my strong suit.

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Speaker 2: All right, there we go start the countdown clock in

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Speaker 2: three two one after this edition of Cardinals Underground brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Pacific Office Automation YE