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Speaker 1: On the Bechdelcast, the questions asked if movies have women

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Speaker 1: and them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands

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Speaker 1: or do they have individualism? It's the patriarchy, zeph and

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Speaker 1: best start changing it with the Bechdel Cast.

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Speaker 2: Go Go Podcast Rangers, Mighty Morphine Podcast Rangers, and.

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Speaker 3: Then we can do really long intros where like I

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Speaker 3: am the podcast cocker Spaniel.

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Speaker 2: Here we exactly.

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Speaker 3: I do feel like if I was a power Ranger,

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Speaker 3: I would also be a frog. Okay, I think I think,

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Speaker 3: do you what would be your animals? Have you thought

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Speaker 3: about this? I haven't give you've spent time of your

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Speaker 3: one human life thinking about this? No?

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Speaker 2: Maybe, like I mean, I love cats and I love

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Speaker 2: red pandas, and I love raccoons. Maybe it would be

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Speaker 2: like the raccoon Power Ranger.

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Speaker 3: That would be a cute one. I was I was

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Speaker 3: a frog kid. I was like, I think I think

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Speaker 3: I would stick with what works for me.

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Speaker 2: Tracks for you, Jamie.

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Speaker 3: What is that?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean when you say that it's a compliment?

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Speaker 3: Fucking freak there. No, It's just like every time I've

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Speaker 3: told someone, uh, I played the Obo in high school,

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Speaker 3: They've been like, yeah, that makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: You're like sounds about rede.

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Speaker 3: Fuck you, that's a loser instrument. And we both know

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Speaker 3: everyone knows it. All right, all right, all right, I

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Speaker 3: can't get triggered. At the top of the Power Rangers episode, Uh,

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Speaker 3: we are covering Muddy morphin Sunny Sorry, Sonny's Barque at

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Speaker 3: the Wall. Okay, We are covering nineteen ninety fives Mighty

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Speaker 3: morphin Power Rangers du movie.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Also, we are the Bechdel Cast. And my name's Caitlin.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've done that yet.

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Speaker 3: My name's Jamie Loftus. And this is our podcast where

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Speaker 3: we take a look at your favorite ooze covered movies

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Speaker 3: and discovered that there's actually quite a bit to talk

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Speaker 3: about with regards to intersectional feminism. Oohs and all.

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Speaker 2: And we have an incredible returning guest joining us. He's

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Speaker 2: got a PhD in sociology okay and.

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Speaker 3: Being a teenager with attitude.

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Speaker 2: True. He's host of the Horror Agenda podcast, an aspiring screenwriter.

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Speaker 2: And you know him from our episode on Teenage Mutant

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Speaker 2: Ninja Turtles Secret of the Ooze. It's Carlos Camacho.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hi, I'm not gonna take it personally, I'm back

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Speaker 4: for two Ooh's episodes.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you're our gooiest guest, Resident Ooz movie expert.

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Speaker 3: Resident Ooz is a good title for a movie.

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Speaker 2: Also, that's good.

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Speaker 4: Shut that down.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's let's write that.

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Speaker 5: Bob.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for returning to the show to unpack the

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Speaker 3: Power Rangers for us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, just like, there's so much to talk about with

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Speaker 3: this movie and also with this franchise, So let's let's

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Speaker 3: just get right in. Yeah, what is your history with

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Speaker 3: the Power Rangers franchise?

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Speaker 4: Who? It's been central to my life for most of

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Speaker 4: my life at this point, literally grew up watching the show.

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Speaker 4: Saw I'm assuming I saw this movie in theaters. I

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Speaker 4: definitely saw Turbo in theaters and I was so wrapped

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Speaker 4: was like, oh is there food? And they're like, you

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Speaker 4: I was distracted. I was focused. This is what you wanted.

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Speaker 3: Were none of you locked in?

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Speaker 4: They weren't. They weren't locked in. But yeah, I collected

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Speaker 4: the toys dressed up as a Power Ranger for Halloween.

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Speaker 4: I had the gloves that made a noise that you

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Speaker 4: hear so often in this movie, and I still have it.

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Speaker 4: I was telling Caitlin off Mike, I have a bookshelf.

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Speaker 4: I have a bookshelf with all of my PhD books, race, sexuality, gender,

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Speaker 4: from comic con are I'm that guy in my friend group,

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Speaker 4: They're like, turtles are Power Rangers. We know how to

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Speaker 3: I feel like everyone, everyone should have their comfort nostalgia

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Speaker 3: property that you're like, is it flawed? Sure, but it's fine.

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Speaker 3: It's fine. Okay, so you know the lore this is.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be a fun one. I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Kitlin was your history with the Power Rangers.

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Speaker 2: So I was a big fan of the show. I

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Speaker 2: I was prepping for this episode, so I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I have not seen this movie, but I've probably seen

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Speaker 2: every episode of the show, because my afternoons when I

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Speaker 2: Rangers and then VR Troopers. If anyone remembers that.

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Speaker 6: Show, No, what is that?

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Speaker 2: It's a similar show made by the same horrendous zionist.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it. But I think it's three Virtual Reality

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Speaker 2: Troopers versus the six Power Rangers. But they just they

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Speaker 3: I was really enjoying I found, of course, I found

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Speaker 3: a Power Rangers YouTuber. This is their lifecraft and they

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Speaker 3: They are not teenagers with attitude at all.

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Speaker 2: They don't have distinct personalities either, really at.

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Speaker 3: Least, which I think is for all of these reasons

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Speaker 3: It's fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So my favorite parts of the show were Bulk

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Speaker 2: Those were the characters that I remembered the most. I

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Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I was like, the robot

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Speaker 3: You're like, there's so many random visual references. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Jamie, what is your relationship with Power Rangers?

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Speaker 3: So I figured I would be a little different here

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Speaker 3: so I remember The Power Rangers being around, but as

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Speaker 3: it involved fighting. So much of what I knew about

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Speaker 3: And I think I just watched The Powerpuff Girls, which

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Speaker 3: which is so I don't know if I don't know

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Speaker 3: is just like Caitlin, you alluded to a huge reveal

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Speaker 3: talk about the creator, we'll talk about I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: like it's the thing of ultimate power. And then just

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: The budget was fifteen million dollars, and I'm like, did

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Speaker 2: It was great. Yes, indeed, let's take a quick break

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Speaker 6: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: It's morph in time.

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Speaker 3: We're back, all right.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 3: Right, we panicked, we thought there was more, Okay, we

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Speaker 2: I like that, like they'll be fighting in a battle

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Speaker 3: I am very reasons, right, I'm I'm so fascinated by

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Speaker 3: a security guard who morphs in ivan Ooze and he's

435
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: like Hallia power right, and you're like, really the fuck

436
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 3: are we and then he just turns into Ivanues and

437
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: then you forget.

438
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Okay, So we meet ivan oohs and Lord

439
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: z instructs him to kill Zordan and he's like happy

440
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: to do it. The Power Rangers then show up and

441
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: deal with the minions that ivan Ooze conjures before he

442
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: fucks off to somewhere else, and the Power Rangers are outnumbered,

443
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: so they invoke their mighty morphine powers and fight these

444
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: uze minions, and there's a lot of karate or some

445
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: similar type of martial art. There's a lot of goofy

446
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 2: sound effects. There's a lot of horrible puns. They have gadgets.

447
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: They have like Batman like gadgets that they're using.

448
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 3: Usually which I and correct me if I'm right. It

449
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: becomes a trend that usually Kimberly, Ayisha and sometimes Billy

450
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: are like damseled at some point in the fight, and

451
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: then it ends up being fine and they get to

452
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: kick someone before the end of the fight. But I

453
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: feel like Kimberly and Aysha in particular, you see them

454
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: be like, oh no, and then Tommy comes in or

455
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: the other one. I'm honestly shocked. I remember that many names.

456
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: Like why is that you should trapped here? Why is

457
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 4: I should trapped again? Kimberly screaming again? Why are we

458
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 4: doing this?

459
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it.

460
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: Aysha is always alone. I'm like she's fighting by herself

461
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: in every scene.

462
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well that's what that's what we'll talk about.

463
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: We're here for, Yeah, we come to this place.

464
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 4: Yes.

465
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: Also, the song that's happening on the soundtrack during this

466
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: fight scene, it's like action boy now Action Girl, Now.

467
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: We should start playing that, Like that should be added

468
00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: to everyone's like gym playlist, like yes, I was, I

469
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: was hived.

470
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: It was awesome. And eventually the Power Rangers defeat the

471
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: US Minions, but oh no, they're special powers and suits

472
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: vanish because ivan Ooze has gone to the command Center

473
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: and he trashes the place and he nearly kills Zordan.

474
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: So the Power Rangers return to the Command Center and

475
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 2: discover that Jordon is dying and that he needs some

476
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: sort of vague great power to keep him alive.

477
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: Which is contained in the Penis Rock, which we don't

478
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: know yet. He creates the coin from the Penis Rock. Obviously,

479
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: I have another canon question for you, Carlos. Is there

480
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: any reason why Kimberley in particular is like Zordan's like

481
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: my father, I was like what uh.

482
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: No, okay, now that I can recall other then he

483
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 4: is the only adult person that like engages with them

484
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 4: outside of their principal who's useless, their teachers who don't

485
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 4: really seem engaged or concerned that like Bulk and skullar

486
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: like bullies TM in the school, like none of the

487
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: adults are functional. So it's just like I guess this

488
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: is the closest thing I have to a dad who's

489
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: like sending me on dangerous missions to go fight bad guys,

490
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: but it gave me powers to do it. I guess.

491
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so wild. Yeah I was, because Zordan is

492
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: like such an amalgamation of other characters. You're like, wow,

493
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: every mentor character is just ultimately sending a child to

494
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: do their dirty work for them, And the Wizard of

495
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: Oz is the only character who's ever like appropriately called

496
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: out for it and.

497
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 4: Ooh says it. He's like, oh, Zordan's still using a

498
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: bunch of teenagers to do his dirty work. It's like,

499
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: imagine if you picked adults who are not from the

500
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: same high school, like six adults from around the world

501
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: who maybe would have more skills and talents to like

502
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: do this work. It's no teenagers, it's bad.

503
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: It's yeah, kids. I mean you could say the same

504
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: of one, uh what's his name, Dumbledore? Like they all

505
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: these mentor characters that are like, you might die, but

506
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: you'll definitely learn a lesson. You're like, I don't know, it.

507
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: Is weird anyway. The Rangers return to the command center.

508
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: Zordon is dying, so Alpha five is like, well, I

509
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: can send you to this distant planet and retrieve a

510
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: great power that I'm pretty sure is there. So Alpha

511
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: five teleports them to the planet of Fatos. Meanwhile, i've

512
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: an Ooz stages a coup against Rita, Rapulsa and Lord

513
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Z and traps them in a snow globe. Yeah, okay,

514
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: pretty iconic. And then he makes more US minions. These

515
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: ones look like birds.

516
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: This is another ripoff from the Wizard of Us. This

517
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: is the director awesome. I'm not saying that as a criticism,

518
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's homage qustionion work. Yeah.

519
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 4: Well, the tengu are like Japanese folkloric, like it's derived

520
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: from a thing. Yeah. I don't know in depth about it.

521
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: I just know that because they end up coming back

522
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: for the TV show, because they are in the Japanese franchise,

523
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: because they are part of like the folklore. Though I

524
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: don't know if it's exactly the same style of look,

525
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: but like the winged fighter is a thing, okay, right, because.

526
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: They look very different than the first Uzminians that he

527
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: conjures out of his blob of uz. Come, what is it?

528
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: What is the thing? He said? There's just so many

529
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: great I've in oohze line reads where he's like meat

530
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: my kids like.

531
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: He's got some of the best line reads.

532
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: It's great, he's really I love when like a character

533
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: actor just fully commits to being a kid's I was

534
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: thinking a lot of I don't expect either of you

535
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: to have seen this. I watch it with my kniece

536
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: last year Elmo's Adventures in Grouchland. Mandy Patankin is the

537
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: villain in that, and he is unbelievable, like just again

538
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: leaving it all in the field and did not have

539
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: to love it.

540
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: That rocks In any case, ivan Uz tells the bird

541
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: Us monsters to fly to the planet of Fatos and

542
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: destroy the Power Rangers. Then we cut to Fatos. The

543
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: Power Rangers begin their search for the great the very

544
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: specific great power that we know exactly what they're talking about.

545
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: But then the bird monsters show up. What are they

546
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: called again, Tengo tengu They show up, but the teens

547
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: don't have their mighty more powers anymore since Zordon is

548
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: dying and he's the one who gives them their powers.

549
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: So the powers are gone, so they're not very good

550
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: at fighting. But then this deis X woman in a

551
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: green bikini shows up and wards off the tengu This

552
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: is Dulcia, who is like, oh yeah, me and Zordon

553
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: go way back, so I'll help you guys.

554
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: And also I feel like there is heavily implied sexual

555
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 3: tension between her and Tommy, which to and maybe I'm projecting,

556
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: but like he he keeps I mean, also, it's one

557
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: of those CW you know issues, where like these characters

558
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: are canonically fifteen, but they're visibly twenty five, so you're like, canonically,

559
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: I have an issue. Obviously these actors are probably the

560
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: same age h. But he kept being like, what do

561
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: you mean, and she's like, be pale, Like I don't know.

562
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: I was just I was sensing a little bit of

563
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: a like domb vibe from her, which is fine if

564
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: they're both twenty five, but canonically they're not.

565
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: Right. Well, also, they so heavily sexualize her in her costuming.

566
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: Oh so I don't think you're necessarily like reading too

567
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: far into that, So.

568
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess everything she's doing is sexualized, right.

569
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: She was initially I'm sure this is in your notes

570
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: for later, Jamie, but was like a Marishka hargatea FROMU

571
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: was originally supposed to play Dulcia Oh my.

572
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: God, which wasn't been a weird because her mom is

573
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: Jane Mansfield. It feels like a weird like continuation. But yeah,

574
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: I read that she got she because there's pictures of

575
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: her in costume, and then she got fired for and

576
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: this gets into the whole world of Power Rangers labor

577
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: issue expanded universe. She was fired because she took off

578
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: Christmas in New Year's was what I read.

579
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 4: They basically had her on hold for a while where

580
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: she was just like there but not really doing anything.

581
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: So she's like, it's the holidays, I'm going home to

582
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: be with my family. I'll be back and then she's like, oh,

583
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: I'm ready, and they're like, we don't need you. You've

584
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 4: been let go, and it's just like what what. There's

585
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: a clip of her on I think fellon one of

586
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: the late night shows talking about it and showing the

587
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 4: pictures to the audience.

588
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, she the pictures are great. I mean,

589
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 3: and the actor who ended up doing the part is

590
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 3: also great. I'm just like, I guess she didn't get

591
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: to see her family over the holidays, Like they're like,

592
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: leave your family celebration. You're playing dull, dull, dull. Se'll see,

593
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: they'll see, Yes.

594
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: And she shows the Power Rangers this monolith in the

595
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: distance aka Penis Power Rock.

596
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: The big Penis in the distance.

597
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because that's where this great power is. But

598
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: she says that no one who has ever tried to

599
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: obtain the power has survived, but maybe the Power Rangers will,

600
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: and that she gives them new like animal spirit powers,

601
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: which come with costumes that happen to be the same

602
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: colors as their Power Ranger suits, which.

603
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: Means more toys every time they change outfits. You're like, okay,

604
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: got it, more toys, more toye yes.

605
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: Also, I did not write down who gets which animal

606
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: because it's again completely inconsequential to the plot, except for

607
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: maybe Adam, who gets the frog because he's insecure about it.

608
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: What a small arc for him. I liked it. Yeah there.

609
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I do think that the animals that they're

610
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 3: given also sort of speak to the broad stereotypes applied

611
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: to the characters, to where especially with Kimberly, who is

612
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: like always like given quote unquote the most feminine thing

613
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 3: of the crane, like the I think like they'll see

614
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: us as like the graceful crane and you know the

615
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: agility of the crane.

616
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: Light is a feather. Yes, she got any light.

617
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 3: To be clear, she's skinny like you're like.

618
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 2: Okay, we get it.

619
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: Sure, we'll circle.

620
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Yes. Meanwhile on Earth, Ivan Ooze wants to build an

621
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: army of mindless drones to do his bidding. So and

622
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: bear with me for this plan. He goes to a

623
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: factory to make a bunch of evil ooze, then gives

624
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: it out to kids at a carnival. And he's also

625
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: disguised himself as this like purple wizard man, and he

626
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: gives out the ooze. The ooze feels very ghack coated.

627
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I bet they saw the ooze? Did I

628
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: saw that? They had to have solved the ooze.

629
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: But I don't remember having it at all.

630
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: Listeners, did any of you have the ooze? Yeah?

631
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: Let us know. And so he distributes ooze to the

632
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: kids so that the kids will bring the ooze home

633
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: and their parents will open it and be brainwashed to

634
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: do the work that Ivan Ooh's once done, such as

635
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: dig up his giant evil robots from underground. And somehow

636
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: this plan works exactly as intended.

637
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: Instantly, And this is where I was, and this is morbid.

638
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: But this does, to me anyways, turn into kind of

639
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: a Jonestown scenario for with with Ivan Ooze as Jim Jones,

640
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: because this is also escalating to mass everyone's gonna just

641
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 3: walk off a cliff. It feels very kool Aid coded,

642
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: where you're like, did he have to do? Like he's like,

643
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: you will all do my bidding and then then you're

644
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: gonna die and.

645
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna die. Well, they drank the kool aid. They

646
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: drank the ooze.

647
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: Almost if Fred hadn't blasted them with that purple come stuff,

648
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: they would have. But also, I'm not even sure if

649
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: that's true. I don't know. We'll talk about.

650
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: It, right. So this kid, Fred realizes that something weird

651
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: is happening with all the parents in town, so he

652
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: goes to like start investigating. Back on Fatos, the Power

653
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: Rangers set off toward the monolith. They have to traverse

654
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: a big forest where some dinosaur skelling tins come to

655
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 2: life and attack them, so they have to fight off

656
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: the dinosaur. Then they reach the monolith, which is guarded

657
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: by these big scary rock monsters with spiky weapons, so

658
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: there's another fight scene and then the monolith opens and

659
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: the great power within is unleashed, and it gives the

660
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 2: Power Arrangers News suits and Zords, and that allows them

661
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: to teleport back to Earth. But oh no, ivan UZ's

662
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: giant robots are wreaking havoc in the streets of Angel Grove.

663
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: So the Power Rangers summon their new Zords to fight

664
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: the giant robots.

665
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: And this is kind of like a Star Wars y

666
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: kind of thing where they're in these little like battle

667
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: fighter It was cool. I liked it. They look like shit,

668
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: it's not.

669
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, the CGI is horrible here, and they're fighting individually

670
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: in their little like ships at first, but then eventually

671
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: they come together into the Megazord.

672
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: And it's definitely not a Transformer.

673
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: Definitely not, definitely not. Meanwhile, that kuld Fred is trying

674
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: to rally all of the other children who are partying

675
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: and rolling on ooze. They're rolling on ooze to see

676
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: and he's like, we have to come together and save

677
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: our parents because the parents are, as you alluded to, Jamie,

678
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: are about to jump into a pit to their deaths.

679
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: Which seems extreme. Surely ivan News kind have found use

680
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: for them elsewhere.

681
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: You would think something.

682
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: So the Power Rangers. Meanwhile, lure ivan Ooze, who has

683
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: transformed himself or like entered one of the robots and

684
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: so now he's a huge evil robot. They lure him

685
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: into space and into the path of a comet which

686
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: hits ivan Ooze and kill him. And that's the big climax,

687
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah. And then the Power Rangers head to

688
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: the command center to save zord On, but they're too late.

689
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: Oh he's dead.

690
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: This is one of my favorite and like, with all

691
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 3: due respect to the actors playing the Power Rangers, there

692
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: this scene they I don't know why they kept this shot.

693
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: It's like it's a pan of all the kids when

694
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: they when they're like, it's too late zord instead. And

695
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: then you see each actor, one by one try to

696
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: cry and fail. It's all of them being like and

697
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: then they just close their eyes like what. And then

698
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: the last one, I think, Jason, he doesn't even react.

699
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: He just stands there. You're just like, God, we got

700
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 3: to help these twenty five year old children.

701
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: You know what's hilarious. There is not a Power Ranger

702
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 2: named Jason.

703
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: Oh wait, is there there? Maybe was there on the

704
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: show or something. I don't know his real.

705
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: Life name Tommy is Jason David Frank.

706
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what i've so it's the actor.

707
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: And Jason was the original Red Ranger.

708
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I was definitely thinking about one of those guys.

709
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: Let's go with that.

710
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: You were talking about the actor and not the character.

711
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 3: Sorry, I just know so much about Power Rangers. My

712
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: wires are getting crossed.

713
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: So anyway, so they discover that Zordon has died, but

714
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: then they put their great animal spirit powers together and

715
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: it brings Zordan back to life and they rejoice, and

716
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: then the movie ends with a big celebration in Angel

717
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: Grove and everyone's like thanks Power Rangers. Fireworks, fireworks, and

718
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: that's the end. So let's take a quick break and

719
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: we'll come back to discuss.

720
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: And we're back. Isn't the last song it's like a

721
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: van Halen song that yeah, I think so, just to

722
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 3: go through the nineties, noess of this. There's the Power

723
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: Rangers orchestra. So that's let's leave that alone. Red Hot

724
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: Chili Peppers, a band called Shampoo question Mark.

725
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 4: Yes, they're the ones who do Oh We're in trouble

726
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: when the kids are partying.

727
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 3: I know that song. Okay, Divo snap exclamation point fun

728
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: Thomas featuring Carl Douglas. Don't know, of course, Van Halen,

729
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: they might be giants. Like there's just so many, Like

730
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: you were saying earlier, Caitlin, the had to have been

731
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: an expensive soundtrack for sure, Carlos, Where would you like

732
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: to start the discussion here?

733
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there's so much good luck? Oh goodness,

734
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: I guess this is the Bechdel cast. Let's talk about

735
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 4: how Aisha and Kimberly keep getting like the short end

736
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 4: of the stick in their fights. They're like equally power rangers.

737
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: Kimberly's one of the ogs, and it's like, we need

738
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: to yell for help, like, what what's happening here?

739
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: Repeatedly it stinks. I'm curious how much this character through

740
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 3: the show. I'm like, it's the nineties, so I'm assuming

741
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: it does. But but yeah, I mean, it's like we

742
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 3: have these sort of five featureless teenagers. Personality wise, they're

743
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: they're all basically the same person, and so I feel

744
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: like a lot of what we have to go off

745
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: of with them are these like broad character stereotypes where

746
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: you can tell this even if you don't watch the show.

747
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 3: But like Kimberly is like the hyper feminine white girl and.

748
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: Her costume's pink.

749
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: Her costumes pink, and she's a girl girl TM and

750
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: so we're going to give her love interests, of course

751
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: we are. And it's Tommy and he's gonna be saving

752
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: her a lot. So there's her. And then I think

753
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: it's like also equally important to talk about who is

754
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: not in this movie and why so this movie and

755
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: Carlo's correct me as our resident expert, because I'm new,

756
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: I'm new to the culture here, but there are three

757
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: original Power Rangers who are missing from this movie. Because

758
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: so the original US series went from ninety two to

759
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: ninety six. This came out in ninety five, So the

760
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: original Yellow, Black, and Red Ranger I think are all

761
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: gone at this point, whoo okay, And the reason that

762
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: is is because of a pretty serious labor dispute that

763
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: really foreshadows we'll be talking about the extensive villainy of

764
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: Zionist millionaire heim Saban, but he's also been added labor

765
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: wise for a long time. The original characters are who

766
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: are not there are Trainy Kwan played by actor Tui Trag,

767
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: who played the Yellow Ranger, the only Asian cast member.

768
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: Certainly nothing going on there. In a similar fashion, we

769
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: have Zach Taylor played by actor Walter Emmanuel Jones, the

770
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: only black cast member of the original Power Rangers, playing

771
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: the Black Ranger. He has said that this was like

772
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: a choice that he made and that he's not bothered

773
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 3: by it, but it's been talked about extensively. And then

774
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: the Red Ranger who was played who is a character

775
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: named Jason Lee Scott played by a guy named Austin

776
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: Saint John. Three names really challenging. But these three characters

777
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: are missing because so this show, as we've talked about,

778
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: is an amalgamation of old footage from Japan and contemporary

779
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: footage at the time from the US. So the kids

780
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: are shooting a lot, but they're not necessarily performing everything,

781
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: which is at the heart of this labor dispute. So

782
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: the like Mighty Worphinpower Rangers becomes really successful right away

783
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: in the US, primarily in merchandising and toys, and like

784
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: this is disputes we've talked about over the years where

785
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: like Star Wars is the most famous one, where like

786
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill, like they weren't cut in

787
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 3: on merchandising and lost out on god knows how much

788
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: money by not having that in their contracts. Similar issue

789
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: going on here is that none of the young actors

790
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: are cut into merchandising. And I think what Carl Sabon

791
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: and Ko say is, well, you're not even doing the

792
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 3: stunts and people like the suits, they don't like you.

793
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: Sorry, is his name Carl ham Seon?

794
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: I don't know why I called them Carl Saban. Let's

795
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: be on. I think it's let's focus on the names

796
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: that I got right, which is amazing, and let's just

797
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: why am I any.

798
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: Are you thinking of Carl Sagan?

799
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of Carl Sagan, honestly don't know. Okay, so

800
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 3: I'm Sebon. It's been Carl in my head for days

801
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: now for some reason.

802
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: Oh wow, well again he's an evil, heinous piece of shit.

803
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: So cure if I get it. But on the labor

804
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: piece of shit side. So, these are non union actors

805
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: at the time, which if you're which basically means you

806
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: can pay non unit uian actors anything they'll agree to.

807
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: Most people start non union while they build a resume,

808
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: and then they join SAG and are in a union,

809
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 3: get a standard rate and have people to help them

810
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: negotiate their contracts. So this started as a non union

811
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: show became extremely successful, and then half of the cast,

812
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 3: who are all represented by the same manager at the time,

813
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: they're red, yellow, black Rangers, go to Sabon and Co.

814
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 3: At the you know, beginning of this season, I guess,

815
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, we want a cut of merchandising.

816
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: And the thing that's like really wild to me is

817
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: like they're like, we want to become union actors and

818
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 3: they say, no, fuck you. I am not exactly sure.

819
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: I know that the actor who played Kimberly. Let's see,

820
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: let's see if I get Amy Joe Johnson. Everyone in

821
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: the nineties had three names. Amy Jo Johnson later expressed

822
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: regret for not having doing this because it seems like

823
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: the all the kids were or the young actors were

824
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: given the same bad deal, but only three of them

825
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: fought against it. And I think because they weren't a

826
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 3: united front, or maybe it would have gone this way. Anyways,

827
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: We'll never know. So Bond was like, we are going

828
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: to bank on.

829
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 5: The fact that kids care more about the suits than

830
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 5: they care about you, and they just did away with

831
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 5: the characters entirely, so, you know, not only is this

832
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 5: like a massive labor issue, And as Amy Jo Johnson

833
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 5: has said, this means that the remaining cast members, sure

834
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 5: they're still on Power Rangers, but they're still making like

835
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 5: shitty wages and being put in unsafe conditions constantly, and

836
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 5: they're not protected by a union.

837
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: Like Amy Jo Johnson said, she was almost electrocuted on

838
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: the set of this movie. And like, you know, just

839
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: there were all of these malpractice issues because it wasn't

840
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: an above board set because they weren't union. So not

841
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 3: only left the remaining cast members in this very vulnerable place,

842
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 3: it got these other actors, you know, cast out of

843
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 3: this very successful franchise just for advocating for basic, basic,

844
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: basic labor rights. And also you lose two people of

845
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 3: color in the primary cast. So that is where how

846
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: we get the new characters of Aisha who oh my god,

847
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: there's so many names. Who is played by the actor helped.

848
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: Me out, Karen Ashley, I think.

849
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 3: Karen Ashley, Yes, so she comes in and take except

850
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: the Yellow Ranger role as Ayisha, and then we get

851
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 3: a different Black Ranger.

852
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 4: Frog Johnny Young Bosh.

853
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 3: Yes, the Frog, and a different Red Ranger. But like

854
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: this was all very recent like around the time that

855
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: this movie was being made, like those decisions had sort

856
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: of just happened, and they're you know, not that you

857
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: would expect someone of Heimsiban's character to ever express remorse

858
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: over having done this. It just shows like from moment one,

859
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: this was a business endeavor and that even the people

860
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 3: who you would think you would want to treat well

861
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: and pay over they were making sixty thousand dollars a year,

862
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: maybe they were making six hundred dollars an episode on

863
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: like the most popular children's franchise like in the West.

864
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: Like it's just it was ridiculous. So that is like whatever.

865
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: I just wanted to give context for who these characters

866
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 3: are and that like half of this cast is sort

867
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: of new to the kids watching it.

868
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: I'd also like to dive just a little bit deeper

869
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: into the racial component here, because the conversation about the

870
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: original Black Ranger being played by a black actor the

871
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: original Yellow Ranger being played by an Asian actor, that's

872
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: a conversation that has been happening since the nineties. It's

873
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: like and so you so, you know, it's bad if

874
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: people were noticing it in the.

875
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 3: Nineties, particularly because I mean, and it's just like it's

876
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 3: just shows the aggressive racism of the makers of this franchise,

877
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: the American franchise specifically, because this is taken from an

878
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: Asian franchise, right, and it is still extremely anti Asian

879
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 3: in its portrayal of its only Asian character, who unfortunately

880
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 3: died very young, Tui Tray, died in a car crash

881
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: when she was only twenty seven. The racial components. I

882
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: know that it's been like you're saying, like debated since

883
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: the nineties, and Walter Emmanuel Jones has said, like, it

884
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 3: doesn't bother me, and I'm like, great, but I think

885
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: it is a valid critique regardless.

886
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 4: For sure.

887
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: Well, I was curious to see if anyone from the

888
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: cast and or crew has said anything about this over

889
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 2: the years, and so I'm pulling from a Variety article

890
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: from earlier this year. So this is about the series quote.

891
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: Head writer Tony Oliver said that none of us were

892
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: thinking stereotypes when these casting decisions were originally made, which

893
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: is why the show ran for two seasons with the

894
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: black character the Black Ranger and the Asian character the

895
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: Yellow Ranger. It wasn't until my assistant pointed out in

896
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: a meeting one day that Oliver realized these castings were

897
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: upholding stereotypes. Oliver added, it was such a mistake. The

898
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: piece goes on to say, quote co creator Shuki Levy

899
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: previously told Complex that Jones and try casting wasn't intentional

900
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: at all. At that time. Haim Saban and I were

901
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 2: new to this country. We didn't grow up in the

902
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: same environment that exists in America with regard to skin color.

903
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: We grew up in Israel, where being a black person

904
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: is like being any kind of color. It's not something

905
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: we talked about all the time. It wasn't a big issue, unquote.

906
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: So first of all, so many layers of yeah, it's

907
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: like word to begin Yeah, famously tolerant and non racist,

908
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: fake ass country of Israel, Like are you fucking serious?

909
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

910
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: Second, just like the privilege of not thinking about or

911
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: not having to think about race, or not noticing the

912
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: racist implications behind casting choices, Like I.

913
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: Also just like, don't believe it. I think that they

914
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: stopped casting Asian and black actors in these roles because

915
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: they were criticized for it, not because they were like,

916
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 3: oh we someone brought up a gentle like someone gently

917
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: told me, and I was like I didn't, no, because

918
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: it's like, not only is that privilege, I don't believe

919
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: that that's how they why they stopped doing that. I'm

920
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: guessing they stopped doing that because they've got in trouble

921
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: for it, right, And Saban is just a fucking monster.

922
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: I mean, like, to this day he is still with

923
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: us and still aggressively pouring money into pro Israel causes.

924
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: To this day, he's been denounced by the Arab American Institute.

925
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: In the last year, he is has well over two

926
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 3: billion dollars from I'm assuming merchandising that he stole from

927
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: these actors, as well as different investments that he's made

928
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: that I didn't honestly look into because I didn't want

929
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: to know anything else about him.

930
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, understandable.

931
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: Yes.

932
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: And then in response to those comments made by the

933
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 2: head writer and co creator, this is pulling from another

934
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: Varieidi article, Walter Emmanuel Jones and the actor who played

935
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 2: who originally played the Black Ranger in the series.

936
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: And was also in Brink, I didn't realize one of

937
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 3: my childhood faves.

938
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: Apparently there's footage of him from a documentary made about

939
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: The Power Rangers saying something on set like oh, of course,

940
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: like the black guy plays the Black Ranger, go figure,

941
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: so he you know, he was commenting on it at

942
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: the time. He later says in an Instagram post, I've

943
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: always believed in focusing on the positive. I understand the

944
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: impulse to address what might be seen as cultural insensitivity,

945
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: but calling it a mistake, that's the reference to the

946
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: head writer Tony Oliver's comment. But calling it a mistake

947
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: would dismiss the impact it had on countless people around

948
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: the world who found inspiration and representation in TV's first

949
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 2: black superhero morphin into none other than the Black Power Ranger.

950
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: It wasn't a mistake. It was a milestone. It was

951
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: an honor unquote. So it's it's a complicated thing, you know,

952
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: the actor not being particularly bothered by it is that

953
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: is good.

954
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 3: I mean, that's good. And it's also like, I mean,

955
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: and again, we don't know this guy, but I think

956
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: it is like a very complicated thing. When I believe

957
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 3: that Walter, Emmanuel Jones and a lot of these original

958
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: actors still do work for the franchise, right, so it's

959
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: like who knows, like it not to cast doubt on

960
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: the quote, like I hope he feels fine about it.

961
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: But it's like, if you're still making appearances as a

962
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: former cast member of the Power Rangers, you probably wouldn't

963
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: be disparaging the Power Rangers. So true, it's it's a

964
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: tricky thing. But yeah, I mean, and we've I think

965
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: we've talked about this in a number of examples of

966
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: how you know, the characters of Trainy and of Zach

967
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: meant a lot to a lot of kids, and that

968
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: like that is for all of this franchise's faults, and

969
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 3: there are many like that that still has value too.

970
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: And then as far as the new characters who were

971
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 2: brought in.

972
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: For wait, sorry, I'm seeing the link you sent Carlos.

973
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, another labor layer. Oh, Carlos just put

974
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: in the chat. The original Yellow Ranger, Audrey du Bois,

975
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: was originally cast as the Yello Ranger before being replaced

976
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: by Tuy Trang due to her requesting financial help to

977
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: move to La to film the series. So another just

978
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: like this company being an absolute piece of shit and

979
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: not doing the bare minimum for their actors, come on,

980
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: ye horrendous.

981
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 4: They also were like gotten rid of on the show

982
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: in like the most anti climactic and shitty way. So

983
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 4: if we have later when Kimberly leaves the show and

984
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 4: gives her powers to the new Pink Power Ranger played

985
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: by Catherine Sutherland, I believe like she gets to take

986
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: her power coin, put it in her hand, and like

987
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 4: you see the transfer of power from Kimberly to the

988
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: new Ranger with the original trio, they are seen in

989
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: the show with like reused footage or they're shot from behind,

990
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 4: or somebody's in a wig, or you don't really get

991
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 4: to have that same moment of them giving Rocky, Adam

992
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 4: and Aisha their powers. It's just like, oh, we're gonna

993
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 4: be in a suit and then teleport away. They don't

994
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 4: get to say goodbye. There's no sort of conclusion. It's

995
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: just like you're off the show. Now we've got these

996
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: new characters who all of a sudden are taking up

997
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 4: like half of the episode because we've got to introduce

998
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: these heroes who care and are worth being the replacements

999
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 4: for Jason, Zach and Treney.

1000
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: Which is so uh yeah, I saw that like clip

1001
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: that literally it's so clunky. It's like them in silhoette

1002
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: because it's body doubles. It's not actually the actors the

1003
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 3: actors had already quit, and then voice doubles being like, Hey,

1004
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 3: we're going to Switzerland. Oh, we're going to the peace conference.

1005
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh man, we're gonna miss you so much.

1006
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 3: You're just like okay, and then the final or not

1007
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know. Another sort of controversy that is

1008
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: around a cast member who is in this movie is

1009
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 3: David Yost, who plays Billy Cranston, who I was like, wow,

1010
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 3: that's so close to Brian Kranston. And Brian Kranston also

1011
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: did voices for the original Power Rangers series and he

1012
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 3: plays I think zored On in the twenty seventeen adaptation,

1013
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: so the Cranston is strong with this franchise for some reason.

1014
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 3: But that David Yost, who is another actor who is

1015
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: now involved again in the expanded Power Rangers universe. But

1016
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 3: he didn't talk about this for years, but stopped acting

1017
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: and left the show shortly after or he stayed till

1018
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty five, so he stayed through the movie and

1019
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: then he stayed on the show for a little bit

1020
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 3: after that into Power Rangers, Zeo question Mark, but then

1021
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: he left and he said due to extensive homophobic harassment

1022
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: that he received on the side of the show from

1023
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 3: I honest, I didn't go super deep into it. I

1024
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 3: read in the interview where he first spoke about it.

1025
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 3: It sounds like what really plagued him the most is

1026
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: that it was coming from the highest level. It was

1027
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 3: coming from the producers. He was getting harassment from crew

1028
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 3: impossibly cast, but like it was also being encouraged, like

1029
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: the cast was being encouraged to interrogate his sexuality by

1030
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: the producers of the show, to the where he felt

1031
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 3: so uncomfortable. And there's literally like video footage from the nineties.

1032
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 3: It's just which it's very in passing, but it was

1033
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: a part of the like Power Rangers behind the scenes

1034
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: clip where he's being like flipped off by a crew

1035
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 3: member and being called Gavid, like to his face in

1036
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: a BTS thing like so it's just, you know, obviously

1037
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 3: we believe him anyway, but the fact that there's like

1038
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: footage that was released to the public that backs up

1039
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: what he's saying, it just sounded like it was extremely

1040
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: traumatizing and he didn't return to Power Rangers. He weirdly,

1041
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 3: I was like fascinating. He moved to behind the scenes work.

1042
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 3: He worked on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills for

1043
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 3: a while as a segment producer, I was like, what

1044
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: a life. And now he's like back involved in the

1045
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: Power Rangers universe as of like a couple of years ago.

1046
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: But he kept it at arm's length for a long

1047
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 3: time because the homophobic harassment was so severe. As we

1048
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: talked about Amy, Joe Johnson later regretted not encouraging the

1049
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: rest of the cast and herself to stand with the

1050
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 3: three who ended up getting fired over labor just futes

1051
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: and also almost died on the set of this movie.

1052
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 3: And she does not fuck with the Power Rangers. Now

1053
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: she's she's an indie film director in Canada, and I

1054
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: love that for her. Oh, good for her.

1055
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 4: So that's understandable.

1056
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I would also move to Canada and

1057
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 3: say fuck the Power Rangers. But so that's the context.

1058
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So to circle back to the conversation about gender,

1059
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: Oh my.

1060
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 3: Gosh, she has the conversation you started an hour ago.

1061
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 4: Girl, I mean, this is all important, this is all relevant,

1062
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 4: Like there's intersectionality, it's all layered, it's all in.

1063
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: There, indeed. Well, and then to speak to the intersection

1064
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: of gender and race when it comes to Kimberly and Aisha.

1065
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: So Kimberly is white, Ayisha is black, and wouldn't you know,

1066
01:03:55,480 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: the white character has far more focus, more lines of dialogue,

1067
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: generally more screen time, and just a more prominent character overall.

1068
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: She's also given and it's like, I don't even I'm

1069
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: not saying this is a pro, but she has a

1070
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: love interest in Jason, Ayisha does not. I feel like

1071
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: Ayisha is very largely plot wise and often just in

1072
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: the shots by herself, where there are like micro relationships

1073
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: where we're like, oh, Jason and Kimberly like each other,

1074
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 3: Billie and the Black Ranger, the Frog Ranger or friends

1075
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 3: or something. But Aisha is just like kind of by

1076
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: herself a lot, which is a shame because I guess

1077
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 3: in this series and you two actually watched it, but

1078
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 3: like Kimberly and Triny were best friends, and that was

1079
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 3: like something that was frequently coming up on the show

1080
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: of like how they were BFFs. And this movie doesn't

1081
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: really have space for any relationship between any of the

1082
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 3: Power Rangers, but it's like they don't even bother to

1083
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: do the of kind of nice, sort of misogynist thing

1084
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: of oh the two girls are friends, and and the

1085
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 3: fact that it's I think that we see this a

1086
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: lot with how black women and girls are portrayed on screen.

1087
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 3: Of like there's a lot of attention drawn to how

1088
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: feminine Kimberly is and in this I think very like

1089
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: white colonial mindset way, And I wouldn't say that, like,

1090
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't say

1091
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 3: that like Ayesha is aggressively othered, Like she's given the

1092
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 3: character of a bear, which is I would say, like

1093
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 3: comparably strong to what the other power rangers are given

1094
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: in terms of an animal, Like I don't really have

1095
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: an issue with it.

1096
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: Certainly stronger than a frog, that's true.

1097
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: Frog and crane. I'm like, I don't I'm not so

1098
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 3: sure about that.

1099
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: But the crane seem flimsy to me, no offense to cranes.

1100
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 3: But I don't know. But that also comes up in

1101
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 3: intersectional feminist masterpiece Killed, so who knows.

1102
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 4: True.

1103
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: But I didn't think she was othered. I just feel

1104
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: like she was like neglected pretty severely in this.

1105
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, to see and then to the point you were

1106
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: just making Jamie about like Kimberly's given a hetero love interest.

1107
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 2: She's also more sexualized in her costuming because when she's

1108
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 2: not in the Power Rangers suit she's wearing, she's wearing

1109
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: short shorts and a very form fitting crop top versus Ayisha,

1110
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: who's wearing like a baggy hoodie. And I'm not, you know,

1111
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 2: advocating for them to be equally sexualized.

1112
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: But like right, it's like everyone loses in this scenario,

1113
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 3: which is true of most subjugations. Like it's just like

1114
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 3: both of these characters are losing. I think Amy Jo

1115
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: Johnson when they were like Amy, why didn't you come

1116
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: back for the twenty twenty three movies, She's like, because

1117
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: I'm fifty three and I don't want to have to

1118
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 3: wear spandex for the Power Rangers anymore. As like fuck yeah, fair.

1119
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 4: And I think adding in to injury. It's also the

1120
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 4: kind of part they'd written for her was like negligible

1121
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: at best. It's like, I'm not coming back to do

1122
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 4: this thing that has been not great in all of

1123
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 4: these ways, that has followed me for decades for you

1124
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 4: not to give me a real part because I watched it.

1125
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 4: Of course, like Billy's character and Zach's character play a

1126
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 4: huge role. It's really about them. Everyone else is just

1127
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 4: kind of in the background, and they mourn Treeny's character

1128
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 4: because they kill her off in the show because the

1129
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: original actors passed in real life. But it's like, yeah,

1130
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 4: makes total sense why you wouldn't want to come back

1131
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 4: for this, Like, I get it, Amy, Amy Joe, I

1132
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 4: get it.

1133
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 3: You're chilling. You're chilling in Canada. You're like, I'm not gonna.

1134
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 4: I'm making music. Like she's like, oh, making music too. Yeah,

1135
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: she's like an indie pop uh maybe indie folk. I

1136
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 4: don't know genres, but she like makes music as well.

1137
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 3: Good for her, Good for her. I'm like, I I

1138
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, they're because because there are I mean,

1139
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 3: and this isn't necessarily relevant to the conversation, but there

1140
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 3: are cast members who did not have as fruitful post

1141
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: careers as Amy Jo Johnson did. I think she probably

1142
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: ended up doing having the most fruitful post Power Rangers

1143
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 3: career and is suspiciously the only person who refuses to

1144
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: engage now. And also that just worth mentioning that Jason

1145
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 3: David Frank, who plays Tommy, was very I mean, he

1146
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: was like basically the face of the series. It seems

1147
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 3: like for years and years and years, very involved in

1148
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,520
Speaker 3: the fan community all this stuff, and then he unfortunately

1149
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 3: took his own life in twenty twenty two, and so

1150
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 3: the movie that we were just talking about that Amy

1151
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 3: Jo Johnson was like, fuck this movie. It is also

1152
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: dedicated to the memory of those two original cast members,

1153
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 3: Jason David Frank and Thui Tran. Yeah.

1154
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 4: I guess the one thing I'll say about the gender

1155
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 4: piece that's very clear. When they're calling their zords, everyone

1156
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 4: gets into their zord and has a cute little moment.

1157
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 4: Kimberly's is very stereotypical. It's just like, oh, nice stereo.

1158
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: It's just like you were in a giant zord, which

1159
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 4: is pretty similar to what she says when she gets

1160
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 4: in the I think the pterodactyl in the original series

1161
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 4: for the first time. Okay, so I think it's a callback,

1162
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 4: but I'm like, does an age well, And then we

1163
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 4: don't see Ayisha say anything when she gets out to

1164
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 4: her zord, like not a second, Like you literally just

1165
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 4: have to her to be like, let's kick some butt,

1166
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 4: let's like do something, like anything anything in the zord.

1167
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 3: Nothing I kept waiting for, even just like nineties cast

1168
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 3: off Girl Boss moment of like one of the girls

1169
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 3: saving the other or something like anything, I'll take anything,

1170
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 3: and they know it's always one of the guys has

1171
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 3: to swing in. If it's Kimberly, it's her love interest

1172
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 3: has to swing in and save her, and she, you know,

1173
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 3: like it's and going back to your point, Caitlin is

1174
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: Aisha has literally no character that we know of. Kimberly

1175
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 3: sort of has a character because she's been on the

1176
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 3: series for a long time. But yeah, the and Ayosha

1177
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 3: is there is because Trety isn't there for all of

1178
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: these horrible so it just like goes up and up

1179
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 3: and up and up.

1180
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: I will say that I feel like the romantic kind

1181
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: of thing that's going on between Kimberly and oh god,

1182
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: what's his name?

1183
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 3: Tommy Tommy, it's every generic nineties name.

1184
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1185
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: Ever, I feel like is not played up so much

1186
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: to the extent that I didn't even totally notice it.

1187
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: And it also could be that I was watching this

1188
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: movie in a fugue state, so maybe it's a me thing,

1189
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: but I, like Loki did not really pick up on it.

1190
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, it's I think, I mean, it's definitely there,

1191
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: But I agree it's not like harped on in the

1192
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 3: way that other franchises would harp on it.

1193
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: True, But and this is speaking to something you were

1194
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:02,919
Speaker 2: saying earlier, Carlos, But the the women are power rangers

1195
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: as well, they are warriors. They have this theoretically the

1196
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: same powers as their male counterparts. But they keep getting

1197
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: the damsel treatment where they're like put into, you know,

1198
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 2: a tight spot and either have to be saved or

1199
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 2: the story in that moment is really focused on like,

1200
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: oh my god, look how much danger they're in because

1201
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: they're trying, to the movies, needing ways to heighten the tension,

1202
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: heighten the stakes. How do we do that?

1203
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 3: Oh no, one of.

1204
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 2: The girls is in trouble. So that happens quite a bit.

1205
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: There are a few instances here and there where like

1206
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: one of the boys gets in a sticky situation as well,

1207
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: but it's never really harped upon the way that it

1208
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 2: is when the teen girls are in a tight spot.

1209
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1210
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: You mentioned this also, Carlos. Like they're screaming a lot,

1211
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: like anytime a bad guy shows up, they're like, ah,

1212
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 2: and it's like you're a warrior, You're and sure they're scary,

1213
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 2: like like the boys aren't screaming, Like it's just all

1214
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 2: of these very gendered, reductive tropes are happening.

1215
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 4: The dinosaur skeleton fight scenes like the perfect example, you

1216
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 4: have Rocky the Red Ranger get slammed into a wall

1217
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 4: and seemingly knocked unconscious, and then almost instantly he's back up,

1218
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 4: no screaming, no yelling. Meanwhile, Aisha and Kimberly both get

1219
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 4: cornered different times in the same fight and have to

1220
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 4: be saved by either Adam or Rocky or Tommy, who

1221
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 4: then immediately backflips on top of the dinosaur to like

1222
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 4: decapitate it. It's just like we could have just little tweaks,

1223
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 4: we could have done little differences there, Like it didn't

1224
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 4: have to be this.

1225
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 3: It's no, absolutely not. It's also fixable because the plot

1226
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 3: is so goofy too, like anyone could that Getting back

1227
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: into stuff I liked because we we had we had

1228
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: to spend all I mean, like there is so much

1229
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: to talk about with this, Like, yes, we had to,

1230
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 3: but getting back into stuff I liked the dinosaur beig

1231
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 3: the dinosa or See's ending with I think Tommy like

1232
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 3: yanking just a random bone from it and you literally

1233
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 3: hear like, and then and then the fight's.

1234
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 4: Over when you're like, it's like a cartoon, Oh.

1235
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's kind of adorable. Yeah, I mean this

1236
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 3: is this is worth of a plot issue where that

1237
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 3: seems like it's not an issue in the actual TV show,

1238
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 3: but just the Power Rangers, like what they're fighting for.

1239
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 3: And then what Fred, who I'm pretty sure is just

1240
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 3: a movie character. Yes, he's like the randommest character. Like

1241
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 3: the Power Rangers and Fred, like they're not fighting for

1242
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 3: the same thing. The Power Rangers seem like not invest

1243
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 3: This is why I was like, do they have do

1244
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 3: they even have parents? Because they're so like kind of

1245
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 3: keeping the whole, like all of the parents are gonna

1246
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 3: walk off a cliff in I think their hometown. They're

1247
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: like not worried about that at all, to the point

1248
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: where I think it's like the Frog Power Ranger saves

1249
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 3: the kids from this random almost train accident, and then

1250
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 3: the kids are like, oh, we're gonna make it, We're

1251
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 3: gonna go save our parents, and the Frog Power Ragers

1252
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 3: like good luck. Kids, almost like do you not care

1253
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 3: your parents live there? And then so then I spiraled out,

1254
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, do they not have parents. Is that why

1255
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 3: they don't care what happens in the city where they live.

1256
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: I would still care, well, Zordan is their daddy?

1257
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah there?

1258
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 4: Or maybe their parents didn't get oozed because they didn't

1259
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,799
Speaker 4: bring home the ooze.

1260
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: So like the perfect plan, distribute oohs to the children,

1261
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: and the children will bring it to their parents. The

1262
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: parents will obviously open the ooze.

1263
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 3: I mean, and that dad with three brain cells to

1264
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 3: his name was and.

1265
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 4: He dug in.

1266
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: He's like, he was like, my son's not home. I

1267
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 3: guess my parents gack. Honestly, I'm like, I'm laughing, and

1268
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: yet I'm like, hmm, well, if my here's the thing.

1269
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 3: If I was a parent, and I hope to be

1270
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 3: one che if my kid brought home oohs, I would

1271
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 3: want to touch it, but I would be like, kids

1272
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: are dirty. I'm not touching theirs. I'm going to go

1273
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 3: to this story. Get my own, your own, my own oose.

1274
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good clean ooze, get not contaminated oohz. Yeah. Well,

1275
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: for the Fred subplot, I was like, well, every movie

1276
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 2: has to be about fathers and sons, so we need

1277
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: to wedge of fathers and sons thing in here. Yeah,

1278
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 2: the thing that I thought was hilarious about this is

1279
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: toward the end, Fred goes to the construction site where

1280
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 2: the parents are all about to like jump off of

1281
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: a cliff or into the pit or whatever.

1282
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: The pit. You're just like, ooh ooh. That is just

1283
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: it reminded me of just as I was researching how

1284
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: the American version, in one of the few instances where

1285
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm like siding with the American version of Supercentai, that

1286
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 3: they would change a lot of plot points because the

1287
01:15:56,200 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 3: original Supercentai was so gruesome where I guess there would

1288
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 3: be children regularly just like murdered in cold blood, and

1289
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: the American version was like, we're kind of we're going

1290
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 3: to not include those parts, and I'm you know, in

1291
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 3: a show for five year olds, I'm pro that, But

1292
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 3: but then you get the little senses of it of like, no,

1293
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 3: we're okay if we jonestown these random characters adults.

1294
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well okay, So the adults are about to jump

1295
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: in the pit. Fred gets hold of some huge water

1296
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: nozzle and there are also children who are trying to

1297
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: like physically push the parents away from jumping into the pit.

1298
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 2: Fred starts spraying the water to try to again also

1299
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: push the parents back, but he ends up just like

1300
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 2: blasting the children with the water rather than any of

1301
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: the adults. It's just like it's like a fire.

1302
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 3: Hose, yeah, full of like purple ghack, And no, I.

1303
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: Think it was just water.

1304
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 4: I think it might just be the color of like

1305
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 4: the quarry is, like it's colored in an odd way.

1306
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 4: But I think it's just supposed to be water.

1307
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, So clearly I misigressed on what was happening there.

1308
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 3: It also felt like he thinks that him doing that

1309
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 3: is what saves them, when in fact it is the

1310
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: power Rangers blowing up the villain is what saves them.

1311
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 3: But I think that Fred spends the rest of his

1312
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,719
Speaker 3: life being like, who if I hadn't blasted our parents

1313
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 3: with a fire hose, they all would have died. Like yeah, wait,

1314
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: there's a really good Ivan oohs line. I wanted to

1315
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 3: shout out.

1316
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: Oh please, I have a few lines I enjoy as well.

1317
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 3: Oh Aysha a big moment for Ayisha. Her spaceship kicks

1318
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 3: Ivan oohz in the balls. So that's yes, that's fun.

1319
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 3: That's fun.

1320
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 4: We like that that line passes the BECHDL test. You

1321
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 4: have what are you doing taking care of business.

1322
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 3: Yes, it is a very funny pass. But yeah when

1323
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 3: says now I'm starting to get really angry, and then

1324
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 3: he just stretches out and like he enters a robot

1325
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 3: in a way that I wouldn't say is unsexual, and

1326
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 3: then he says, I feel big again? What do you

1327
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: mean again?

1328
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? My favorite lines were I think this is

1329
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: Billy during one of the early fights in the movies

1330
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: when he's like punching one of the Ooze minions and

1331
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: then he goes, you oose, you lose. Okay, that's good writing.

1332
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: And then my other favorite, like what the fuck who

1333
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 2: wrote this thing? Is so the Power Rangers they arrive

1334
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: on Planet Fatos and they keep talking about how urgent

1335
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: it is that they get the power so that they

1336
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 2: can save Jordan. Jordon is actively dying. Like the sense

1337
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 2: of urgency is talked about a lot, but they are

1338
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: moving so fucking slowly. They these kids, there's no urgency

1339
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: in their movement.

1340
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 3: These kids need to be in school, Like, I don't

1341
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: understand what is going on in these kids' brains. They're

1342
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 3: they're given these like because even if they are not

1343
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 3: able to do these animal powers for whatever reason I

1344
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 3: would I at least want to see them. Wonder why

1345
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 3: the fact that they're like, all right, cool, we went

1346
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 3: to the big we like made it to the the

1347
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 3: thingy and Zena was there and she gave us these powers.

1348
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 3: But uh, but we can't use them and we're not

1349
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 3: gonna try, and we're just gonna travel on foot and

1350
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna walk to the We're gonna walk.

1351
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 4: To the penis and like set up, it's set up.

1352
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 4: She turns into an owl. So it's like, if that's

1353
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 4: her power, why didn't we turn into a wolf?

1354
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can literally see her do it. Wow.

1355
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 4: So it's like plant never never never payoff And so

1356
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 4: they get the zords. I guess technically would be the payoff.

1357
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 4: But it's like that's too She wasn't an owl zord.

1358
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 4: She was an.

1359
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 3: Owl, right. Yeah, she didn't turn into a spaceship, although

1360
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have hated if she did. Her character cracked

1361
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 3: me up? Is she and other stuff?

1362
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 4: Nope?

1363
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 3: Oh good.

1364
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 4: So there's this YouTuber called miss stare Fusion who actually,

1365
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 4: for the thirtieth anniversary of the movie's release, did a

1366
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 4: comparison between the movie and how the TV show handles

1367
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 4: the transition because this was the transition from like one

1368
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 4: set of powers to the ninja powers, and so in

1369
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 4: the TV show, the way they did this was different

1370
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 4: with Turbo later the movie is canon, So like the

1371
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 4: movie is the transition, and here there's a guy named

1372
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 4: Ninjor who's like a Dudley do Right kind of character,

1373
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 4: who's in a blue suit. He's basically a Zord that

1374
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 4: turns into a bigger Zord and comes back later to

1375
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 4: help the Rangers. But like they have to go through

1376
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 4: like four episodes to get the powers to like reclaim them,

1377
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 4: get the same suits, fight the Tenga, and then get

1378
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 4: the powers to come back because Tommy technically destroys their

1379
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 4: powers in the TV show, Alfa's like, you're pushing the

1380
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 4: zords too much. You're going to like overthrow the powers.

1381
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 4: And then he's like, we gotta do whatever it takes.

1382
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 4: Immediately the swords explode, they lose their powers, they fall

1383
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 4: out of their swords. There's a bit more meat for

1384
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 4: the movie.

1385
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 3: These kids are a mess. These kids are a mess.

1386
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 3: I love them. Yeah, it is like I don't know

1387
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 3: it is so whatever, just like speak you to like

1388
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 3: and I would love both of your feelings on this too,

1389
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 3: because I was trying to put a little time, like

1390
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 3: putting this franchise into a larger context around like merchandise

1391
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 3: heavy franchises, international franchises, the like exchange of entertainment culture

1392
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 3: between the US and Japan, which is a very complicated subject.

1393
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 3: And because it is just like it's it's so silly,

1394
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 3: but it's also like it's it's a rich text, these

1395
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 3: these power Rangers and its history with Super Sentai, and

1396
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 3: which I kept I'm immature, so I kept accidentally saying

1397
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 3: Hentai and then going he he, and then saying sorry, Sentai.

1398
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 3: But because it didn't occur to me until I was

1399
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,799
Speaker 3: like doing some just like kind of basic background research

1400
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 3: that this is sort of similar to how Godzilla became

1401
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: popular in the US, is by showing original footage from

1402
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 3: Japan and then just throwing in a couple American actors

1403
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 3: and releasing it as if it's completely original content. It's

1404
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 3: just very it's very interesting, and I know we don't

1405
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 3: really have the bandwidth within this episode to fully get

1406
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 3: into international relations, but just because like the US and Japan,

1407
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 3: there is still such an intense cultural exchange today, it's

1408
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 3: just like a very particular moment, and I just had

1409
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 3: a lot of fun watching the like the original cuts,

1410
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: which I feel like as a grown up, you're like, oh, yeah,

1411
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 3: that's a different person twenty years ago, but it still

1412
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 3: somehow kind of works. Like it works Rita Repulsa, Like

1413
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 3: it's very badly dubbs, but it works. I wish that's

1414
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 3: my main note for this movie at the end of

1415
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 3: the day. I know it's been an hour and a half,

1416
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 3: but Rita Repulsa, get her out of the snow globe.

1417
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 3: Get her out.

1418
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: Because she's such a prominent character in the series, I

1419
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: was expecting her to be something in the movie, but I.

1420
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: Kept waiting for her to like join forces with ivan

1421
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 3: Ooze at least. I'm like, don't get rid of Ivanoze.

1422
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 3: I love ivan Nees, but you know, talk about silencing women,

1423
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 3: putting readA Repulsa in a snow globe come on.

1424
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 4: After throwing goo on her mouth to shut her up,

1425
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 4: and Z so happy about it, Like, no, she's so important.

1426
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 4: That voice is iconic. It's so sad she does come

1427
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 4: out at the end.

1428
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's well, she's rooting. She and lord Z are

1429
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: rooting for the Power Rangers because they hate iven Ouz

1430
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: so much that they're like, I hope they kick his ass,

1431
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: and then they do by throwing him into a comment,

1432
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: and that's awesome worth mentioning. I think again. I got

1433
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 2: to talk about Bulk and Skull now, the fat character's

1434
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: name being Bulk. First of all, there's also a part

1435
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: where Skull asks Bulk, are you hungry and Bulk says

1436
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 2: always so, just casual fat phobia present in the Bulk character.

1437
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 2: I really wanted them to be a larger part of

1438
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: the movie as well, but they are like barely even

1439
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: tertiary characters, Like they get nothing.

1440
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 3: It really does just feel like random fan service of

1441
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 3: like they're on the show and they jump out of

1442
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 3: a plane, see yam. It's too bad. I would say

1443
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: a whole movie about those guys.

1444
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 4: They have more of a role in Turbo, but they

1445
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 4: similarly have nothing to do with the main plot and

1446
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 4: the TV transition between seasons. But it's also the fat

1447
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 4: phobia is so much worse. It's like they're the bully

1448
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 4: TM characters, but like rewatching Power Rangers as an adult,

1449
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 4: you're like, you guys are doing too much to these

1450
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 4: so called bullies, Like you're really bullying them, Like there's

1451
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,759
Speaker 4: moments where it's just like, are you guys the good guys?

1452
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 4: I'm having my doubts you should go to an anti

1453
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: bullying seminar.

1454
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: I think about that with I don't know why this

1455
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 3: example like just jumped right to my mind, but there

1456
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:44,799
Speaker 3: was a similar thing with the bully on Boy Meets

1457
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 3: World where there was just a lot I vividly remember

1458
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 3: to the point where it like occurred to me as

1459
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 3: a child that I'm like, they're being really mean to him.

1460
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 3: They're like making these like fat phobic comments. I think

1461
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: maybe there's one episode where it's like that hurt my

1462
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 3: feelings the so I guess maybe they called it out

1463
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: at some point and then continued to do it. But yeah,

1464
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 3: this this franchise is especially and it always like sticks

1465
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: out even more when that's one of the characters few

1466
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 3: moments on screen at all, Like it's just stating the

1467
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 3: broad cruel stereotype. And then we don't even see them again.

1468
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 4: That you flew out, Like yeah, as members that they

1469
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 4: did not fly out, you flew out Bulkan Skull for

1470
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 4: what to have them play second fiddle to Fred who

1471
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 4: we never see again, who nobody knows just because you

1472
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 4: insert like the hell, yeah.

1473
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bulkan's skull could fill. I mean, no offense to

1474
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:43,560
Speaker 3: that kid, but you're like, who fuck is it?

1475
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 4: That is?

1476
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 3: Like I'm not convinced that that wasn't like AI like

1477
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 3: that the most generic ass kids in the entire world.

1478
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to say this while I was thinking of

1479
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 3: it because I went into deep A Repulsal lore because

1480
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, oh, she's so cool that her

1481
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 3: original first of all, her grievance is very valid because

1482
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 3: here's how she enters the show in the pilot. Pulling

1483
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 3: from scholarly journal Wikipedia here, Rita Repulsa is an evil

1484
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,919
Speaker 3: space which bent on ruling the universe. Being a powerful sorceress,

1485
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: Rita has conquered many worlds a master large collection of

1486
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 3: monsters and putty patrollers to do her bidding. Origin story.

1487
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 3: Imprisoned in a space dumpster by Zordon, Rita was cast

1488
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 3: into space, where she would float for ten thousand years

1489
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 3: before arcing back to the Moon in nineteen ninety three.

1490
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 3: Once freed by two astronauts, she and her minions reclaimed

1491
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 3: their headquarters and started a second campaign on Earth to

1492
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 3: defeat Zordan and take the planet for Lord z now

1493
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 3: the Lord z thing. I don't know what that means,

1494
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 3: but she is right to be hell bent on destroying Zordon.

1495
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 3: He imprisoned her at a space dumpster for ten thousand years.

1496
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: That was rude. He should not have done that.

1497
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also hate there's something like I reject Zordon.

1498
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 3: I don't like him.

1499
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 2: No, he freaked me out.

1500
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 3: I think that Zordon is kind of Heimsibon coded in

1501
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 3: that he's a creepy weirdo who doesn't do anything, and

1502
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 3: his whole thing is I do not compensate these young

1503
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: people for their labor, but they do my bidding. Well,

1504
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: I just fucking hang out in a room and collect

1505
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: wealth that is not mine. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1506
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 3: I don't I'm is Zordan canonically a Zionist?

1507
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, no, But this is the thing that

1508
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 4: becomes even worse for the continuity of the show if

1509
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 4: you follow him movie canon. So in later seasons there

1510
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,879
Speaker 4: are a bunch of other villains that come together. Zordan

1511
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 4: has one of the Power Rangers spoilers for I guess

1512
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 4: Power Rangers in Space has the Red New Red Ranger

1513
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 4: destroy his tube, and when he does, he explodes in

1514
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 4: like an essence of good Ray that like turns Rita

1515
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 4: into a normal human, turns the Lord Zet into a

1516
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 4: normal human, arguably eliminates all evil from the universe because

1517
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 4: he exploded, And I'm like, that didn't happen in the movie,

1518
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 4: Like in the movie when his tube exploded, he just died,

1519
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: but like he self sacrifices to save the universe for

1520
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 4: what because I somehow evil comes back to the universe

1521
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 4: later when they start to like cross different timelines and

1522
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 4: play with different show continuities later. But yeah, Jordan seems

1523
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 4: to be a like typical bad mentor where it's like,

1524
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 4: you must do this for the greater good. Don't go

1525
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 4: be a gymnast because then you can't be a power ranger.

1526
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,799
Speaker 4: You can teleport. Why can't she go do her routine

1527
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 4: on the balance beam and then come back to Angel Grove?

1528
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,839
Speaker 4: Why does he only attack Angel Grove? Like the adult

1529
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 4: questions you ask, it's just like why Angel Grove? Why

1530
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 4: the us?

1531
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: Why because it's hell Mouse or something.

1532
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 3: You're like, why is this villain only attacking Burbank, which.

1533
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 4: Has been referenced in like newer more meta commentaryan movies

1534
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 4: where it's like, yeah, he seems to only attack Japan

1535
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 4: in like a Godzilla movie or in some other thing.

1536
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:10,839
Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, but like there's a whole world.

1537
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 4: Why did Jordan have ivan Ooze buried near his ectomorphicons

1538
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 4: near his lab instead of on Fatos, on Aquatar, on

1539
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 4: El Tar, literally anywhere else. It's like bad planning, my guy,

1540
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 4: what if this fail?

1541
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, None of this occurred to me,

1542
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 3: none of it at all. Wow, No, you're totally right.

1543
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 4: I watched this and rewatched this way too often, so

1544
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, deep, deep deep into lore. No.

1545
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 2: Good, thank you. That's why you're here.

1546
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 3: We need you.

1547
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 2: Does anyone have anything else they'd like to talk about?

1548
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure I do, but I'm gonna stop myself.

1549
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I joke with my friends. I'm like, this is

1550
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 4: a horror movie. Given how bad the CGI has aged

1551
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 4: in this movie, Like the footage from the show is

1552
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 4: so much better age because it's like a person in

1553
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 4: a like suit. I think still in this season they

1554
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 4: haven't gone to like animation yet. So just there's some

1555
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 4: ways that this is not hold up, but it's still

1556
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 4: a fun, little nostalgic tickle in the brain.

1557
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 3: True. Yeah, I felt like the bad effects. At this point,

1558
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 3: I feel kind of nostalgic for this kind of bad effect.

1559
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 3: It doesn't really bump me because you're just like, this

1560
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 3: is I do believe this is the best they could

1561
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 3: do at the time.

1562
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 4: I've turned around.

1563
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the technology just wasn't really there in ninety five.

1564
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 3: It's just teenagers sitting inside of a screensaver, and I

1565
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 3: celebrate that beautiful.

1566
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 2: Does the movie past the Bechdel test?

1567
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1568
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 2: It does, with the what are you doing taking care

1569
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: of business? Me to the not sack of the eye

1570
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 2: of an uh'ze giant robot.

1571
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:02,959
Speaker 4: Which is plot relevant.

1572
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 3: Yes, it was like a very plot relevant nineties girl

1573
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:10,520
Speaker 3: Power pass.

1574
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 2: True. Do they talk to each other aside from that though?

1575
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 4: No, But they talked to Dulcia y and then but

1576
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 4: the context is about Zordan and it's like our leader

1577
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 4: Zordan said, you know Zordan, it's just like, can we

1578
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 4: talk about something like the powers? Can we talk? And

1579
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 4: then they go into ivan ooze and then the boys

1580
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 4: jump in and so yeah, I don't think Aisha and

1581
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 4: Kim talk to each other at all.

1582
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 3: No, which again is just like they're not even doing

1583
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 3: the bare minimum that they were doing in the show

1584
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 3: by making the only two girls BFFs, and I was

1585
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,440
Speaker 3: reading I don't know. I was like reading some synopsies

1586
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 3: about Kimberly and Triney from the original show, and it's

1587
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:52,839
Speaker 3: so nineties and goofy, where it's like Trainy and Kimberly

1588
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 3: both start after school clubs and Trainee is more popular,

1589
01:32:55,960 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 3: and so Kimberly gets possessed by the jealousy monster. Like

1590
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 3: you know, it's like all very you know, goofy kind

1591
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 3: of stuff, but it's it's something where I'm like that

1592
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 3: that seed particularly drove me up a wall because you're,

1593
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 3: first of all, you're like waiting for it to maybe

1594
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 3: pass the Buckfel test and then it doesn't. But I'm like,

1595
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 3: you guys are standing right next to each other, please

1596
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 3: just turn your head and speak like it's just it.

1597
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm glad that it wasn't really like

1598
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 3: this in the show, but in the movie it really

1599
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 3: does feel like these kids are complete strangers to each other.

1600
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of your favorite people actually had something to

1601
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 4: say about that. I'm gonna try to find it. I

1602
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 4: opened up the tab. Give me one second.

1603
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,520
Speaker 3: What if Alfred Molina was like, I have to say something.

1604
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 4: About, oh no, this is fully sarcastic your favorite person.

1605
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 3: Oh oh even better. So there's a Roger Ebert review

1606
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 3: on this fil Okay, you know what, I at least

1607
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 3: he covered it. At least he covered it.

1608
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 4: He gives it half a star, and he starts it

1609
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 4: mighty morphim power readers. The movie is about as close

1610
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 4: as you can get to absolute nothing and still have

1611
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 4: a product to project on the screen. The movie is

1612
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 4: like those synthetic foods that have no fat, no sugar,

1613
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 4: no vitamins, and no calories, but they come in bright

1614
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 4: packages and you can chew them. And he goes on

1615
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 4: to like comment like we did about how there's no

1616
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 4: real character because I imagine they anticipated, you're gonna watch

1617
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 4: the show, You're gonna see the movie. You know these characters,

1618
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 4: so this is like another adventure there on rather than

1619
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 4: catering to a new audience that's like who is Tommy,

1620
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 4: Who is Kimberly, Who is Adam, Aisha Rocky, et cetera.

1621
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it was like, it is interesting that I

1622
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,440
Speaker 3: was at least happy to see that there are technically

1623
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 3: characters that are established in the show, But it really

1624
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 3: this movie is really assuming that you either don't care

1625
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 3: if there's characters or you already watch the show, which

1626
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 3: I guess in nineteen ninety five was a reasonable guess,

1627
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 3: but it makes it very confusing to watch thirty years later.

1628
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, like when you watch the for example,

1629
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 2: Ninja Turtles movies, those characters are still very distinct from

1630
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 2: each other and very well defined in the movies, so

1631
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 2: it's not hard to do, especially if you've already established

1632
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 2: the personalities of those characters, as you've done in the show.

1633
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 3: I would say, and it's like, and I'm if I'm

1634
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 3: remembering correctly, It's like it really is simple enough with

1635
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 3: the Turtles for it to be like I'm the blank one,

1636
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: Like that's all you really gotta do, But this movie

1637
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 3: doesn't even really do that, because I'm like, I don't

1638
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 3: know which what, Like I guess Tommy's the leader one,

1639
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 3: Kimberly's the pink one, the other the other three or four.

1640
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I have no idea which one you are

1641
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 3: or yeah, what you do?

1642
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? And Billy like it wasn't always the best, but

1643
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 4: like he was the tech nerd of the group, so

1644
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 4: he was always like saying very nerdy things, very sciency things,

1645
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 4: and it's just like you couldn't keep some of that

1646
01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 4: where it's like, oh, we're gonna do something like science

1647
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 4: like no, even if it's nonsense. Alpha has a bunch

1648
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 4: of like technological nonsense lines. Billy doesn't get any of that.

1649
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 4: So it's like the character that was there now he's

1650
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 4: just boy number five, boy number three, whatever number you

1651
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 4: want to put him in the order.

1652
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 3: Really bizarre. I'm like, all this said, I had a

1653
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 3: great time watching.

1654
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 4: This is so great. I watched it twice to prepare,

1655
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 4: revisited the pilot, and watched some of Mister Fusion to

1656
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 4: to get into the vibe. Great time.

1657
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, thank you, I'm all your work.

1658
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 3: And also for listeners, it's it's currently on YouTube for free,

1659
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 3: like you can. You can. You can check it out

1660
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 3: if you really need to. Like, I don't know, I

1661
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 3: just I felt very like it's it's it's exactly. You

1662
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 3: can tell it's gonna be a good movie because it's

1663
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 3: exactly ninety minutes long with credits. You're like, oh good,

1664
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 3: they hit it.

1665
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 2: If you need something to put you in a fugue state, yeah,

1666
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 2: this will do the trick.

1667
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 3: It is intense, it is an intense movie. I had

1668
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,600
Speaker 3: a really good time watching it. But you know, I

1669
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, the Power Ridges they are still around.

1670
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 3: I feel like they're possibly in the process of trying

1671
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,719
Speaker 3: to do a larger reboot, because they did. I didn't

1672
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 3: see it, but I know that, like towards the end

1673
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 3: of like every reboot had to be Christopher Nolan coded,

1674
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,839
Speaker 3: they did a like dark reboot of The Power Edgers,

1675
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 3: which of like, did you see that, Carlos did?

1676
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 4: I fully saw it in theaters and then immediately went

1677
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,479
Speaker 4: to the Toys Arrests because Toys arrest was still open.

1678
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 4: Went to the Toys Arrests and bought the magazine because

1679
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 4: I got copied the consumers.

1680
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:39,719
Speaker 3: It works.

1681
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 4: I had fun with the opens. It was a fun movie.

1682
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 3: It works. I really. As I was watching yesterday as

1683
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 3: someone with no nostalgia for this series, I'm like, should

1684
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 3: I get to read a Repulse to action figure like

1685
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 3: that could be? I mean, yes, yeah, I should. I

1686
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 3: think I should. I already I already bought a pad

1687
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 3: My amidalad do all this year. I can't stop humiliating myself.

1688
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 3: It's getting bad.

1689
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 4: I mean it sounds good to be but yeah, there

1690
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:10,679
Speaker 4: I think Kitlin and I were talking about this off

1691
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,799
Speaker 4: Mike that they are working on a Disney Plus reboot

1692
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 4: series of the show. And I think there's talks about

1693
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 4: like once in Always Arranger the reboot or the the

1694
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 4: sequel movie with like the original Billy and Zach. I

1695
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 4: think they're talking about doing another version of that, but

1696
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 4: that could just be like rumor speculation. But yeah, the

1697
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 4: Rangers live on, The.

1698
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 3: Rangers Live on, baby, and does Supercenti live on as well?

1699
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 4: Ooh that I don't know.

1700
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm oh, it's saying nineteen seventy five to present.

1701
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wow wow. So there has been a new

1702
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: season of so this is something I found fascinating and

1703
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I can't really think of outside

1704
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 3: of like soaps, like American shows like this. There's been

1705
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 3: a new season of Supercenti with a new like their

1706
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 3: antalt Like you're saying, Carl, it's an anthology show with

1707
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 3: like new characters, new stuff. I think people come back

1708
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:08,679
Speaker 3: and forth, but like every year since nineteen seventy five,

1709
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 3: so for over fifty years there has been it is wild. Yeah,

1710
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 3: and some of them sounded really fun. There's like one

1711
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,440
Speaker 3: season that I watched a like every season of Supercentai

1712
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 3: explained because I'm really cool, but there was one that

1713
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 3: was like, there's like one that's like a mystery season,

1714
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:32,679
Speaker 3: and then I don't know, it just sounds cool. So okay,

1715
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 3: that's all I have to say.

1716
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 2: I problem, which brings us to the Bechdel Cast nipple scale.

1717
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh don't make me do this.

1718
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 2: We have to. Uh, this is our scale where we

1719
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 2: rate the movie zero to five nipples based on examining

1720
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 2: it through an intersectional feminist lens. I'll give it one

1721
01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: nipple because we see women fighting sometimes question mark, and

1722
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 2: that's sort of the whole purpose of the show is

1723
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 2: that these teens are fighting evil and so they let

1724
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 2: two women do that. Thirty percent of them are girls,

1725
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 2: so that's nice. But otherwise, with everything we've talked about,

1726
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: this is not an intersexual feminist text, if you can

1727
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,600
Speaker 2: believe it. But I will give it one nipple, and

1728
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 2: i'll give that nipple to read or pulse the best.

1729
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 3: Character iconic legend, I'll also give it one nipple. I

1730
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 3: think the best thing you can say is that the

1731
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 3: Girl Power Rangers are at least presented as being equally important.

1732
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 3: They are not as women and girls often are presented

1733
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 3: as strictly sidekicks or love interests. However, they are still

1734
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 3: subject to a lot of classic nineties tropes with regard

1735
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 3: to gender. But also, as we've discussed, this franchise is

1736
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 3: no stranger to severe racial stereotypes and fat phobic stereotypes

1737
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 3: and behind the scenes homophobia, and is run by a

1738
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 3: billionaire zionist and so the you know, issues with this

1739
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 3: franchise run to its core. It's very of its time.

1740
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I mean, like watching this, I

1741
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 3: very much understand its appeal, Like it's it is fucking fun.

1742
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 3: It starts with people jumping out of a plane for

1743
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 3: really no reason at all, and it continues to make

1744
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 3: that exact amount of sense for the entire time. So

1745
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 3: I'm going to give it one nipple because, like you said, Caitlin,

1746
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 3: girls are there, and I'm gonna give it to I

1747
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 3: guess I'm going to give it to Ayisha because she

1748
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 3: needs something.

1749
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, she is not given much. Yeah, Carlos, how

1750
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 2: about you?

1751
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 4: Oh, the nostalgia wants to go higher because like I

1752
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 4: feel like I'm Caitlin's rampometer.

1753
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 3: This is like for me, off the charts this is so.

1754
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 4: Good, so fun. The nostalgia, I want to give this

1755
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 4: super high, but given the stuff we talked about, I

1756
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:25,959
Speaker 4: don't think that's fair. As a listener who like listens

1757
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 4: to every episode, I'm like, why did they rate this

1758
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 4: so high? Like I understand the nostalgia, but like, and

1759
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 4: part of me wants to be that person right now.

1760
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,879
Speaker 3: You're welcome to me too. You're like, it's no judgment,

1761
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 3: we do that all the time.

1762
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. The Nipple scale is the end

1763
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: all be all thit in. If you miss this.

1764
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 3: Up changes the course of history every time.

1765
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 2: So follow your heart.

1766
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 4: I think the best I could do. I'm like edging

1767
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 4: between like two and a half and three. I think

1768
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 4: you do have rita sort of sidelined, which is not great.

1769
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 4: You do have Kimberly and Aisha doing a lot of

1770
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 4: cool stuff. They get damseled a bunch. There's no real equivalent.

1771
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 4: I think Rocky's in trouble a couple of times and

1772
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 4: one of the other guys has to save it, but

1773
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 4: never one of the girls has to save him, which

1774
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:20,480
Speaker 4: could have been a fun little twist. You have Dulcia,

1775
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 4: who on paper Master Warrior fade Us nobody can get

1776
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 4: to this power. She defends people from like trying to

1777
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 4: start down the path, saves them from the tengu She

1778
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 4: becomes an owl, which is dope, etc. But that she's

1779
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 4: like half undressed, which like she's in a tropical climate.

1780
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 4: I guess, but like why did we need to do that?

1781
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 3: We did it, But also I mean this is a

1782
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 3: climate where Ayisha is wearing a hoodie and uh Dulcia

1783
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 3: is wearing nothing and the owl, well, the owl's completely naked.

1784
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 2: So also if she's like this like warrior, that outfit

1785
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 2: is not providing very much much protection.

1786
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 3: No, that is not armor, and she's not that powerful

1787
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 3: because she's like if I leave this room, I will

1788
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 3: turn into But can the owl leave?

1789
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 4: I don't know, unclear because we see the owl still there.

1790
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 3: And so kind of a useless power when you think

1791
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 3: about it. If the owl also can't go anywhere.

1792
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:21,719
Speaker 4: It's like you cannot cross this part of the island

1793
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 4: or the world, Like how does that work? Is like

1794
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 4: the whole planet this one continent, it's unclear we can

1795
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 4: keep going.

1796
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't seeing food there, Like what does she sustain it?

1797
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 6: On?

1798
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 4: What did the rangers eat?

1799
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Well, they ate the dinosaurs, and that's why their skelet tense.

1800
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1801
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 4: I get to be fair. I think I'll end a

1802
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,600
Speaker 4: little lower. I think I'll just go two, two nipples.

1803
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give one to Aisha because I want to

1804
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 4: boogie with the bear another pass. I was thinking about

1805
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 4: what we were raiding when Kimberly is caught in the

1806
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 4: electromagnetic deadlock from Ooze. He's like, oh my god, I

1807
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 4: need help. I'm burning up in here. He's just like, girl,

1808
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 4: use your thrusters, and I'm just like, oh, yes, true,

1809
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 4: which saves Kimberly's life arguably.

1810
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, why didn't she remember? I don't know, but

1811
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 3: her friend was there?

1812
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 4: Yep. So two nipples for one for Asia, and I

1813
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 4: guess Kimberly, yeah, yeah, oh no, we got to give

1814
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 4: it to Fred character Kimberly. Kimberly gets a second.

1815
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 3: That would be funny, like.

1816
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 2: Nipple Fred illegal.

1817
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 3: Friend, and then Fred's like, goofy ass, Dad, being like

1818
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 3: I love you son, and having that be kind of

1819
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 3: the last thing You're like, who are these people?

1820
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 4: Right after a no Home a moment from Bulk and Skull,

1821
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 4: because it's nineteen ninety five, like Bulk goes to hugs

1822
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 4: skull because they're not dead. They saved the day. And

1823
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 4: then he's like, hand up, shakes his hand.

1824
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 3: I totally. That's so funny that I feel like they're

1825
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 3: doing some sort of nineteen ninety five Bingo card at

1826
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 3: the end where they're like, oh, we didn't do a

1827
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 3: no homo moment. We didn't have a father saying I

1828
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 3: love you son, like and then and Van Halen song,

1829
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 3: We're good. There's a time.

1830
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 2: There's also a moment where I've an ooze and then

1831
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 2: what's the gargoyle looking gold goldar. They're both discussing their

1832
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 2: crush on a teenage girl. They're like, oh, Kimberly, the

1833
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 2: pink one's so cute? Am I RIGHTO? You're like, you're like,

1834
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 2: that is a teenager and you're thousands of years old.

1835
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 3: That said Ivenu's top ten cinema characters I've ever seen.

1836
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 4: Him.

1837
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:47,719
Speaker 3: Yes, he put his whole ivan as into that part.

1838
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 3: I we didn't deserve the amount of effort that he

1839
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 3: put into it. I'm glad we got it well.

1840
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 2: Carlos, thank you for joining us for yet another OOZ movie.

1841
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 2: Come back for more OOZ movies or something else. I guess,

1842
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 2: but but I was. I found a Reddit thread and

1843
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 2: me going on Reddit, it's so scary to me.

1844
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 3: Good for you.

1845
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 2: But I found a thread called slime, Sludge and Goo

1846
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 2: on movies. So there's so many things we could choose from.

1847
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 2: We've got to come back and discuss. But thank you

1848
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 2: so much for being here. Tell us where we can

1849
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 2: follow you and anything you'd like to plug.

1850
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I love

1851
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 4: coming on the show, love listening. You've introduced me to

1852
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 4: so many cool guests over the years. It's been great. Yeah.

1853
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 4: I'm on Instagram still for the time being metas awful

1854
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 4: Zuckerbergish trash. But yeah, Carlos creates twenty eighteen on Instagram

1855
01:47:54,840 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 4: on Blue Sky. Those are like my two major social

1856
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 4: media places. I have a podcast called The Horror Agenda

1857
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 4: where we cover horror movies mainly, but we also cover

1858
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 4: horror podcast comics, and we do a lot of short

1859
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 4: films which a lot of people don't give enough love to,

1860
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:16,679
Speaker 4: which has been really great. And that's The Horror Agenda

1861
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 4: on Instagram and wherever you get your podcasts.

1862
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming back. Yeah, we can't

1863
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 3: wait to see what you bring us next, there's some

1864
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 3: there's I have. I want to send me that, send

1865
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 3: me that, Lin, Kitlin, I want to know the others.

1866
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 2: Movies will do well And we could even include it

1867
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 2: in the description of this episode.

1868
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 4: What should I come back for?

1869
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1870
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to start thinking now, all right? Well, uh,

1871
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 3: we used and we lost, well, Bye bye. The Bechdel

1872
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 3: Cast is a production of iHeartMedia, hosted and produced by Me,

1873
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 3: Jamie Loftus and Meant.

1874
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 2: The podcast is also produced by Sophie Lichtermann.

1875
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 3: And edited by Caitlin Durrante. Ever heard of Them? That's

1876
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 3: me and our logo and merch and all of our artwork,

1877
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 3: in fact, are designed by Jamie Loftus, Ever heard of her?

1878
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 3: Oh My God? And our theme song, by the way,

1879
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 3: was composed by Mike Kaplan.

1880
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 2: With vocals by Katherine Voskrasinski.

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01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 3: Iconic and a special thanks to the one and only

1882
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 3: Aristotle Acevedo.

1883
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 2: For more information about the podcast, please visit Linktree Slash

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