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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland and this is Fitness Disrupted. I

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Speaker 1: say it all the time. I have the greatest job

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Speaker 1: in the world for so many reasons, and one of

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Speaker 1: those reasons is that I get to talk to some

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Speaker 1: of the coolest, most amazing people, the people that I

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Speaker 1: have looked up to, that that I study, I study

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Speaker 1: and I've talked about that in different interviews with people

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Speaker 1: like Troy Jacobson, and that's how I've learned. I've studied

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Speaker 1: the people who do and have done what I want

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Speaker 1: to do, and I learned from them, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: really lucky I get to interview them. And with my

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Speaker 1: next guest, I actually have traveled with him around the

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Speaker 1: world and he is one of the most unique people

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Speaker 1: I've ever come into contact with. And that's saying a lot,

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Speaker 1: done a lot of traveling that a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and just one of the best of the best at

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Speaker 1: what he does on so many levels. And I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about Ken Glaw. Ken Glaw is just one of the

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Speaker 1: most prolific triathletes in the world. Okay, I've talked about

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Speaker 1: iron Man races many times. I've done several dozen. Uh

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Speaker 1: started doing them way back in and then the goal

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Speaker 1: was to do the Hawaii iron Man. That was always

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Speaker 1: the goal. Well, this next guest, Ken Glaw, he has

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Speaker 1: done the Hawaii iron Man thirty six years in a row.

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Speaker 1: Now it matters not if you're a competitive athlete. This

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Speaker 1: interview is all about consistency and violating. He violates every

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Speaker 1: rule you've ever hurt. You know, running is bad for

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Speaker 1: your knees, Wait till you're older. You have to slow

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Speaker 1: down when you're older. He lives in Westchester, Pennsylvania, which

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Speaker 1: is hardly the mecca of training. Most triathletes live in

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania in the winter in the east. And he

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Speaker 1: is and has been since two thousand two, running his

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Speaker 1: own business at the very same time he has made

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Speaker 1: his passion in his vocation. He has an endurance travel company,

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Speaker 1: which is how I have been fortunate enough to have

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Speaker 1: spent time around him. And he's infectious. He's in his

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Speaker 1: late fifty seven. I'm gonna ask him, he looks way younger.

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Speaker 1: He exudes so much energy. And this is after thirty

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Speaker 1: six iron Man races in a row to be healthy

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Speaker 1: enough to do the whit iron Man thirty six years

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Speaker 1: in a row, and for most of them you have

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Speaker 1: to qualify. So we'll talk about it more. But now

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Speaker 1: you have to qualify with another iron Man many years

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Speaker 1: ago when he started, Uh, you could do it with

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Speaker 1: shorter races, and I'm sure he'll talk about that, but

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Speaker 1: suffice it to say, he's up there. Man's I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: and he's still going strong and he's still competing, and

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Speaker 1: he's competing while he is running his business. When you

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Speaker 1: travel with Ken to New Zealand, he is literally cooking

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Speaker 1: for you up until the day before the race, and

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Speaker 1: then he's racing. But he's traveling, he's working his butt off,

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Speaker 1: and he's racing. So I'm sorry when I say that

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Speaker 1: all the excuses are gone. You know the clients I

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Speaker 1: and you know CEOs, and you know, many understood that

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Speaker 1: success came from exercise and eating well. But there were

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Speaker 1: those who said, I'm really busy, I traveled so much,

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Speaker 1: do that. Well, Ken Glaud puts all of that just

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Speaker 1: shatters that and it's not just about genetics. Sure that

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Speaker 1: topic will come up as well. It's about effort and

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Speaker 1: putting in the time, and then ultimately it's about two things,

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Speaker 1: letting ego go and changing what you do. Now. Ken

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Speaker 1: trained like crazy back in the day he had to.

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Speaker 1: He finished third at the Hawai iron Man, the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl of triathlon in he finished fourth in nine and

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Speaker 1: that was right behind Mark Allen and Dave Scott. Crazy race.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who follow that, he was known

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Speaker 1: as the Beast from the East because during his pro

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Speaker 1: and he won iron Man Canada as well. So this

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Speaker 1: And many of them beat themselves up too much, aren't

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Speaker 1: all right, just absolutely amazing, amazing, amazing career. And just

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Speaker 1: and again put in some crazy mileage. But when I

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Speaker 1: talk about excessive moderation, you go, well, this doesn't apply

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Speaker 1: to someone like ken Glaw. No, yes, he put in

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Speaker 1: what others aren't willing to do. We all need rest,

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Speaker 1: more ex I did to bring to you Ken Glaw. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you're not an athlete, it matters.

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Speaker 1: Not so inspiring showing you all of the cliches. But

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Speaker 1: we hear from people who are in their twenties on

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Speaker 1: social media telling us how to live. Well. They haven't

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Speaker 1: lived yet, they haven't accomplished what Ken Glow has and

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Speaker 1: continues to do. He is so authentic. He is living

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Speaker 1: proof that when you work hard, when you listen to

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Speaker 1: enjoy the journey and the goal, it's just icing on

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Speaker 1: the journey, all right when we come back and blah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back, and we are back. As I

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Speaker 1: I have the greatest job in the world because I

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Speaker 1: with people that I have whooked up to and just

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Speaker 1: you know, you model yourself after people who have done

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Speaker 1: I have had a couple of experiences with him. We

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Speaker 1: will talk about those and uh, yeah, Ken, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for making the time. You're so busy, although

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Speaker 1: we're in crazy times right now. Yeah, not not as

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Speaker 1: research on ken Blaw kids. Well, big family has six boys,

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Speaker 1: And you did have six girls too. I can't imagine.

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine, like, and you were the twelfth

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Speaker 1: what you chose to do and how will you do it? Oh?

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Speaker 1: But that's exactly it. Can you know? My mom used

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Speaker 1: watching you, I said, Mom, knew you weren't the only

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Speaker 1: reason no one drowned. Is because Ken, there were thirty

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Speaker 1: pushed you in, right exactly? Yeah? Yeah, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we had we had a statue of the Virgin Mother,

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Speaker 1: so you know that's it was sitting there next to

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Speaker 1: where the spring house, you know, where the spring water

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Speaker 1: have been blessing the water as it came in, looking

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Speaker 1: incredibly long race, you know, two point four mile swim,

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Speaker 1: thirty six? Ken? Am I doing the numbers right that

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Speaker 1: So I said this in the intro, thirty six years

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Speaker 1: can't do math very well. But I think that's seventy

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Speaker 1: is when you're sixty four, nine or fifty four, you know. So,

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Speaker 1: so what keeps talking about is the actual opposite of

428
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Speaker 1: what Malcolm Gladwell talking about in uh, you know, the

429
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Speaker 1: ten Thousand Hours book about where hockey players like I

430
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: got two young kids whore hockey players. If they're not

431
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: born in January, you're not gonna be a pro hockey player, right, yeah, yeah, no,

432
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: I've I've read some articles about that, and that's yet

433
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: it's amazing the way that works out, um and that

434
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: somebody hasn't hasn't done something to uh well as your

435
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: programs called disrupted that you know, because uh yeah, that's

436
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: that's that's a sad situation, really is. Yeah. Do you

437
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 1: remember so because you've been racing for so long and

438
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: you were chipping away at the times, I gave your

439
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: amazing you know, fourth place, third place, just incredible, Cannon.

440
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize you were fourth place during the

441
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Speaker 1: Dave Scott you know war, you know, run run, like

442
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Speaker 1: do you place fourth in that race? So I was

443
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: actually I was leading on the bike right I was

444
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: laden on the bike. They came by me, I guess

445
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: round mile eighty and then I was in third place

446
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: until I'd say probably six d five before the twenty

447
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: six mile mark. So what we're talking about Iron war Mark,

448
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Speaker 1: Allen Dave Scott. The only one was Greg Wells right

449
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Speaker 1: past you. Greg passed me with with about half a

450
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Speaker 1: mile togo and then when I turned around on the

451
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: League Drive, you know, with two or something to go,

452
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: I looked over my shoulder and there was Paul Crow

453
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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, there's no way in hell I'm gonna

454
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Speaker 1: lose two spots in the in the last half mile

455
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: of his race. So luckily I held him off. But yeah,

456
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: the three of us, I think there were seventeen seconds

457
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Speaker 1: between the three of us. That's incredible. And again I

458
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: would a lot of people to realize is again, someone

459
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Speaker 1: who has competed at the level you have to have

460
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: done it year after year and to be when I

461
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Speaker 1: stressed cannabout, you know, doing another iron Man race, because

462
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: you know, I'm twenty seven iron Man's in never had

463
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: a flat tire. I'm always thinking of things that could

464
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: go wrong. I think about guys like you and how

465
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: consistent thirty six years to be healthy enough to do

466
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: what you do. It's just a great example of you

467
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: don't stress, you just show up, You just keep moving forward.

468
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: All those cliches right about enduring sports, but it's true.

469
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Speaker 1: Well and then you know, you know there's big, big

470
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Speaker 1: mile weeks that I was telling you about. We were

471
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: talking about, uh, you know, people say, well, that's too much. Well,

472
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: it depends on where you're coming from whether it's too much.

473
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: You know. Um, it's it's all what your body has

474
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: build up to do, you know. And that's why I think,

475
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, endurance sports has, uh, especially the iron Man,

476
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: something that long has very little to do with genetics.

477
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: And you know, oh you know when people say that

478
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: to me, that to me is a total affront to

479
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: all the work I've done. When they say, oh, well

480
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: you just have good genetics, It's like, well, you know, uh,

481
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: twelve brothers and sisters and uh, you know, none of

482
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: them didn't you know. I mean some of them were

483
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: good athletes, that's for sure, but they were good athletes

484
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: because they also had a good workout. I've wanted to

485
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Speaker 1: do the same cover of a book where people said

486
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: to me, you know, what minds more the vanity side.

487
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: But hey, it's good genetics. I said to my brothers,

488
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: will you all pose for the cover of the of

489
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: my next book? I think you're mean, just I think

490
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: you may have a couple of brothers that aren't as

491
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: slim and fit as you. We're different if there's genetics.

492
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: But that's a great point, genetics, and if you actually

493
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: do the science, can it's like pay on what we're

494
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: talking about. Of course genetics play a role, but both ways.

495
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: You know, you can have great genetics and die early.

496
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that your parents have to be a hundred.

497
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: If you live a horrible life, you're gonna die early. Right,

498
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: So exactly it is true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, and

499
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: and uh, I think the longer, the longer the event,

500
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: the more genetics kind of fall out of the play.

501
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: Even a sprinter, I mean, you can be a good

502
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: sprinter because of genetics and not work very hard. But

503
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: when I say a good sprinter, that's all I'm talking about, right,

504
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about topping your state in high school.

505
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about national caliber or World Candler. Genetics,

506
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: no matter what doesn't get you very far when there's

507
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: other people that have good genetics and they're willing to

508
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: bust their ass you can, right. I mean my youngest brother,

509
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: who you know, fits that article perfectly. He was the

510
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: greatest athlete, but it came too easy to him, I

511
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: would argue, right, and so he didn't work as he

512
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: didn't have to work his hard, right, So give me

513
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: that person, as you're saying, who's got the good genetics,

514
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: who has the work ethic, and who loves it like you.

515
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: Obviously I love that you said you love it. I

516
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: do too. I love the lifestyle. The race is just

517
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: as you said, that's the party, like that's if that

518
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: goes right, awesome, But I don't care. Yeah, I mean

519
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people, uh you know, they they'll go

520
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: to a race and they won't have the race that

521
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: they wanted, or they they will they'll have a great race,

522
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: but somebody beats them, you know, in their age group,

523
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: or they don't get in the top five, and you know,

524
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: but they still had a great race and they walk

525
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: away all piste off. And you know, if the race

526
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: is the only thing you're worried about out I mean,

527
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: even if you race a lot, you're not even racing,

528
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, or you shouldn't be. Maybe two of the

529
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: total time that you spend doing the sport might be

530
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: racing and the other percentage training, so you better enjoy.

531
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Speaker 1: And I think that's why I'm still in the sport

532
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: I love. I'M certainly, you know, people, how do you

533
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: stay motivated? I tell you, I'm I'm normally motivated because

534
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: the thing that I love to do most is out

535
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: and train now with COVID, Like a lot of people,

536
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't mind admitting it, right, everything's been

537
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: disrupted and I my motivation is not. It just amazes me,

538
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: you know that. It's like, you know, I get to

539
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: go out and to go for a bike ride, and

540
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: most of the time I enjoy it, but sometimes it's

541
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: it's just not what I thought it would be. And

542
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: just mentally, you know, this whole this whole thing is

543
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: is tough, you know. And and uh, whether it's you know,

544
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: people have you know, lost their jobs or their jobs

545
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: are totally interrupted like mine is. Um, you know, it's tough,

546
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: and it's any Any stress is stress, you know. So

547
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: if you're used to train in twenty hours a week

548
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: and work in sixty hours a week, that's what you're

549
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: used to you know, but if you work twenty if

550
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: you train twenty hours a week, work sixty hours a week,

551
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: and your wife has cancer, that's a new stress that

552
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: might throw you over the edge. Um. You know. So,

553
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, when I coach athletes, I like to know

554
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: what's going on in their life because stress is cumulative

555
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: and it it doesn't matter where it's coming from. And

556
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: and and emotional stress is much worse than physical stress.

557
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: You know, it does more damage. It can really you know, well,

558
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: it can lay you out. I mean, you know there

559
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: when people are depressed, even if they're fit, they're lying

560
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: on the couch, they they can't get up and you know,

561
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: walk to get out of the you know, the way

562
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: of their own shadows sometimes. Um. So you know, obviously

563
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: there there's a lot of stuff that goes into it.

564
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: But normally motivation is not a problem for me. And uh,

565
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: getting out the door and whatever it is, biking, running, swimming, going,

566
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, going and lifting. Um, you know, that's that's

567
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: one of the best parts of my day. It's dobably

568
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: hard for you, right because doing it since I was

569
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: six and it's still one of the best parts of

570
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: my day. Yeah. If I always say you kind of

571
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Everyone can get to that point if they find what

572
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: they love to do. You know, people don't hate exercises,

573
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: just haven't found what they like to do. They don't

574
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: not like to eat healthy foods, they just haven't found

575
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: what they like to eat. Right, um, And we're gonna

576
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: talk about that real quickly. The second, will you eat?

577
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: Because I know you're not doing any crazy diet like

578
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: people might think. But that's it. It's it's I do

579
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: it for my sanity first, cat. You know, I I

580
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: if you if someone said to you you can't go

581
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: out and bike a run, that would be horrible. Well,

582
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean I won't say that. I'll addict it. I

583
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: mean because obviously, you know, I just I go away

584
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: to a race, and I'll work for seven days and

585
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: hardly sleep or something, and you know, maybe I get

586
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: the exercise for an hour that entire week. But when

587
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: I was training seriously for twenty some years, I always

588
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: took five or six weeks where I did almost nothing.

589
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I went to the gym and did some lifting,

590
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: or occasionally, because I didn't come from a swimming background,

591
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: I might go and swim every now and then. But

592
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: basically that had five or six weeks where I did

593
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: almost nothing, and if you're addicted to something, you couldn't

594
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: do that, you know. But my body needed a break.

595
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: And that's also part of why I think, you know,

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00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm still in the game. Being from the Northeast, the

597
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: winner made it very easy, you know, to just naturally

598
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: take a break, you know, and then I'd start back

599
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: up and just gradually build back up into it. And uh,

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00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, mentally and physically you're just you're itching to

601
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: gu um, you know. So that was always a good

602
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: thing to have that break. You've always been smart about it, Ken, though,

603
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: and I again, you know you say it, but most

604
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: people don't do it. Most people at your level that

605
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: we're at your level can't take that time off. And

606
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: it's essentially and again, your your results speak volumes, right,

607
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean thirty six iron Man's you know, and all

608
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff just says we all need time off.

609
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: I I did a show Ken about like you know,

610
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: you see the T shirt no days off really good

611
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, I'm gonna beat you right eventually. Yeah,

612
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: don't take any days off. That sounds great, it's a

613
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: good T shirt, but you're you're not gonna do very

614
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: well long term, uh, just talk quickly and Scott, we

615
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: were talking about him before we went live. But you

616
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: know I've seen you eat, you have pancakes, you would,

617
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: you enjoy yourself. You are super fit. I just talk

618
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: about your diet or or lack thereof, of of anything crazy. Well,

619
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean my yeah, I mean my my diet now

620
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: is better than it used to be. I mean when

621
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: when I was training, you know, thirty to forty hours

622
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: a week, I didn't care if you know, some of

623
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: the calories I kicked in were garbage calories. You know,

624
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I would lose. I would lose eight pounds after my

625
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, those hundred and sixty mile rides and then

626
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: a fourteen mile run and then sometimes a swift just

627
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: a relaxing two k you know, but nothing nothing serious.

628
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: But after that I would eat. I would eat for

629
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: four hours straight, you know, and it was just I

630
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: was just forcing food down. And the first thing I

631
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: would do is I would make in a big gulp

632
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: or or the super big gulp, which was forty eight

633
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: ounce cup. I would make a milkshake with you know,

634
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: I'd have yogurt and I'd have fruit in there, and

635
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I'd have um I'd pour chock it syrup into it,

636
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: I put protein powder, and and then I go up

637
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Speaker 1: into the shower and I drink that while I'm having

638
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: my shower immediately after after. You know, it was probably

639
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: who knows, you know, it's probably fifteen to two thousand calories.

640
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: But there's no way I would have been able to

641
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: just eat enough food because what would happen that night

642
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: if I didn't go to bed in a certain way.

643
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: The next morning, I would wake up and I'd have

644
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: to eat for about two hours before I could go

645
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: out and do a workout. Now, even though I trained

646
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: ten hours the day before, the next day after that,

647
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: I would still put in a five or six hour

648
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: day when I was doing those big, big weeks. So

649
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: I didn't want to I wanted to wake up, have

650
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: a normal breakfast, and then go to the pool. Um.

651
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: You know. So I would lose eight pounds overnight, six

652
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: to eight pounds. UM. So I knew if I went

653
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: to bed in a certain way, I'd wake up the

654
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: next morning so emaciated that you know, I couldn't do anything.

655
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: So you know, when you're taking in whatever whatever the

656
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: hell it was, you know, eight thousand calories or something.

657
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: If if two thousands of those calories or garbage calories,

658
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: then then so bad. Now it's a little different. Now

659
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: if I take in two thousand calories of garbage calories,

660
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: that better be all the calories I take it, so

661
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: right now. So so now, yes, my I've cleaned my

662
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: diet up. I mean I used to eat a lot

663
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: of good food, but I obviously I did get junk

664
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: calories in there. Yeah, but I just it's nothing you're

665
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: not doing, paleo, you're not doing you know, to each

666
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: of their own can I always say, and you want

667
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: to be healthy, but like you're doing such a crazy

668
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: amount of racing, and you even said protey powder and fruit,

669
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: you still have good stuff in there, right, And that's yeah,

670
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: that's the difference. Right, You're not going to just having

671
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: a milkshake from McDonald's. No, No, I didn't just have

672
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: ice cream. I had yodured in there as well. I

673
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: had at um you know, uh like a rice dream

674
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: and you know, I just whatever was in the refrigerator

675
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: went into the went into the blender, you know. And

676
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: so for the average person ken who's not doing that much,

677
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: they can still have that fun, right, But it's just

678
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: not as many calories. But you you have, you work hard,

679
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: you play hard. I remember Troy Jacobson saying to me

680
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: the same thing. He's like, I needed a pint of

681
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: Ben and Jerry's every night just to get in enough calories, right,

682
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: because you can't eat enough fruit and vegetables if you're

683
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: treating that much, right, And that's good news. So totally

684
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: you're right. You're right. I mean you should you shouldn't

685
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: be totally denying yourself of something that you want. The

686
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: main thing is to make sure the majority. And of

687
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: course there's certain things that you really want to avoid.

688
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, fried food, sure, that's something you know,

689
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: maybe you know once every two weeks or something you

690
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: want to you want to want to have something. But

691
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: the thing is, I mean a lot of times you can.

692
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, if you like French fries, you could put

693
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: fries in the oven and and bake them and broil

694
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: them and they're not gonna be as good as as

695
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: if they were cooked in oil, but they're gonna be

696
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: pretty good, right. Uh. You put some spices on them,

697
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: and you know you can live with that. But you know,

698
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: if you got to go through the drive in once

699
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: a month and grab, grab, you know, in order of fries.

700
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: Then who cares. That's what I say. Canada drive ins

701
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: were invented for guys like you and me who want

702
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: to hide, you know what we do. And there's one

703
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: time I was in a McDonald's with one of my

704
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: kids after hockey, and all of a sudden I get

705
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: a text and I look at my phone and it's

706
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: a picture of me and the McDonald's with my kids.

707
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: So someone had driven by. But let me just finished

708
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: with like this discussion about food and like, you know,

709
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: no depervation. I remember iron Man South Africa. I remember

710
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: during the run and I blew up, like really tough

711
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: race for me, but seeing a McDonald's and the day

712
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: after the race, you know, we crave that salt and fatter.

713
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: So I thought it was like a mile away. It

714
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: turned out to be like two or three miles, but

715
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: I went I was not gonna knock finish, you know.

716
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: The walk, long story short, it was filled with really skinny,

717
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: fit tra athletes. So we do that occasionally, you know,

718
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: and we don't feel as good afterwards, But there's no deprivation, right,

719
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's the great news. Yeah, I think people

720
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: that completely deny themselves something that they enjoy. And at

721
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if if you're living a good,

722
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: healthy lifestyle and there's something you you enjoy that's not

723
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: great for you, does it really matter if you live

724
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: to be years and six months or you live to

725
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: be a hundred years old, You know, if you're walking

726
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: around every day saying, oh, man, I really wish I

727
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: would have had that yesterday, or enjoy it. So let's

728
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: talking about your latest venture, Endless Summer Casume. I'm so

729
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: excited because I'm coming out, But tell people about that. Well, yeah,

730
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, a lot, a lot of a

731
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: lot of stupid stuff I did, uh right, right as

732
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: a pandemic was coming out. So my wife and I

733
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: started building a bed and breakfast in two thousand nineteen.

734
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be ready to been in two

735
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: thousand twenty. So obviously that wasn't It wasn't great, and

736
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: uh we cut back on the number of races we

737
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: were doing, so I was gonna start coaching. So that

738
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 1: wasn't very good, you know, because who wants to coach

739
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: when when there's no races around? So so, but hopefully

740
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: now those things will both pick up my coaching as

741
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: well as Endless Summer. It's a bed and breakfast in Cosmel.

742
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: We have eight rooms. Well basically marketed as as general tourism,

743
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, people going there for diving, snorkeling and just

744
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, beach vacation, winner getaway, but we're also gonna

745
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: we're also gonna do training camps there, so that'll be fun.

746
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: It's Cosmel is a great place to train. There's a

747
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: big section of the island that is bikes only or

748
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: bike lane, so it's really safe for riding. There's a

749
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: few nice all weather tracks. There's two pools, and then

750
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: of course there's the big pool which is always open

751
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: out there in the ocean and it's always warm and

752
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: crystal clear. I mean the water. That's the thing that

753
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: may put cose Mail on the map was how clear

754
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: the water is. And it's the very northern end of

755
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: the second largest reef in the world. So um, you know,

756
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: it's it's great for snort clean and diving. But uh

757
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: so if someone's got there, like hey, I want to

758
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: grab friends and go for four or five days and

759
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: get a great little you know winter workout in perfect place. Yeah, yeah,

760
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: and you know, and I mean what we're after is,

761
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, when we do the training camps, we're gonna

762
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: have stuff for family to do as well. I mean,

763
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, athletes get themselves in in a in a

764
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: deep enough ship hole as it is sometimes with what

765
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: they do. If you go away to cose Mil in

766
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: February to go do six or seven days of training

767
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: and leave your family at home, I don't know that

768
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: that's such a good idea. So what we want to

769
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: do is, you know, do our training in the morning

770
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: and have stuff set up in the morning for family members,

771
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: but then also in the afternoon after we're done our

772
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: training that everybody athlete and a non athlete can get

773
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: together and do and have fun. So so that's definitely

774
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: the plan with the training camps, because I think athletes

775
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: would be if they're married or have a significant other,

776
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: they'd be kind of crazy to go to a nice

777
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: place like cosmel And and and leave those people behind.

778
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: My wife will kick me out, can she'll go go

779
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: with Kenny get out for well yeah, well sometimes that

780
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: that is their vacation. So you know, you got both

781
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 1: sides right. You can accommodate the families if you want.

782
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: If you've got the other ones who've been married a

783
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: long time and maybe you need time away. I'm so

784
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: excited and I will definitely be out there. So do

785
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: they go to the Endurance Sports Travel site for that?

786
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: Right now, we are just building up our website, but yeah, yeah,

787
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: I'll send you the email address for it and UM

788
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: and uh also our Instagram page UM and that way

789
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: people can can reach out to us that way. Yeah.

790
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: So when during sports travel everybody Ken Glaw, Google, you know,

791
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: start clicking around Facebook all the social media, can't I

792
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: can't thank you. I want to do like five hours

793
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: always say like, just uh, I've had so much fun

794
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: with you. Give you one quick story though, so last

795
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: iron Man New Zealand, just you're so honest with your

796
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: training and everything and what you put out there. You know.

797
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: It's the first race where a couple of miles into

798
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: the run, or maybe halfway, I saw you up ahead,

799
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's not a good sign if I'm

800
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: catching Ken, you know, and I'm going slowly. Ken's having

801
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: a tough day. And I came up to you and

802
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: I go, Ken, are you all right? And you emptied

803
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: your stomach and said and it just bent over and

804
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: you go, didn't put in the training, and I said,

805
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: you're okay, and again and you go and put in

806
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: the training, but you were just honest, like and again

807
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: you probably did what like three weeks my guesses or

808
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: something like that. But you know, I think we all

809
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: have to just be honest and and listen. I'm like

810
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: you can, I'm trying. We'll not like you at all,

811
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: but I try to do as little training as possible

812
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: to enjoy my life. Do not get hurt, right, And

813
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a fine. You know. Sometimes we do well

814
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: and sometimes we didn't do enough right, and that's okay.

815
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: When you said, as you said, you got to enjoy, yeah,

816
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 1: and well, and you got to set your goals based

817
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: on what your training was, right, you know. Uh, you know,

818
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: if you're only trained of what you had planned on training,

819
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: and yet your goal is set to what it would

820
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: have been if you've got a hundred percent of your

821
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: training in, then then that's that's not an intelligent goal.

822
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: Uh you know. Sure, you know, maybe if you got

823
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: eight percent of the training in and you set your

824
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: goal to challenge yourself and you have a good day

825
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: and you get there and you're happy. Um. I always

826
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: set my goal based on what my training was and uh,

827
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: and that way I have a realistic chance of meeting

828
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: my goal. I don't want to set my my goal

829
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: below what my fitness level is. Otherwise you may as

830
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: well just go out and train, you know, if you're

831
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: not going to challenge yourself. So right, you don't want

832
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: to go into every race with with a ridiculous goal,

833
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: which means, you know, except for the race where you

834
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: have the greatest phrase of your life, is the only

835
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: time you're gonna meet your goal. I mean that that

836
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, right, And you've got to enjoy the process. Like,

837
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: if you don't enjoy the process, you're not gonna be

838
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: doing it. You're definitely not gonna be doing it for

839
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: thirty six years. You're not gonna be as healthy as

840
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: you are, you know, injury free, enjoying, you know, making

841
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: your your passion, your vocation as we said. So I'm

842
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy coming out and visiting you. And uh, I'll

843
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: be doing iron Man Brazil with you in November. Got

844
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: moved from May, so I'm excited to do that. Um

845
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just uh, many more racists to come

846
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: around the world, can right, that's for sure, awesome, Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time, and uh congrats

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Speaker 1: on cosy Mel and I went forward to seeing you

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Speaker 1: out there soon. All right, take care, thanks again, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back after this short break and we

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Speaker 1: are back. Whenever I get off an interview and an

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Speaker 1: interview with someone like Ken Glaw, I want to do

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Speaker 1: hours more. I'm always sad, That's what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: I have pages and pages of notes that I didn't

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Speaker 1: and that's where we go. I don't ever want to

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Speaker 1: and so many other stories off to heaven back. But

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Speaker 1: such a special person. And if you have the opportunity,

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Speaker 1: if you have the desire to travel and do an

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Speaker 1: event even just go to his brand new place, endless

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Speaker 1: Summer Cozumel. Now you can reach out to him. E S. C.

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Speaker 1: Dot hoss Stole at gmail dot com. Brand new websites

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Speaker 1: not up yet, I don't believe, but google Ken Glaw

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Speaker 1: it's g L A H. You will see it in

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Speaker 1: the notes. Obviously, Ken glaw E s C. That's endless

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Speaker 1: summer cosume l E s C dot hostel at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. Go, spend some time there with your family,

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Speaker 1: with some friends, go on to run with Ken, ride

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Speaker 1: your bike with him, be inspired on living a healthy

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Speaker 1: life with purpose. And Ken has touched so many people.

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Speaker 1: One of the most fun things and one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons I travel with him. As I said, all my

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Speaker 1: other races, I book on my own and I stay

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Speaker 1: in different places about travel with a travel group. It's

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Speaker 1: not my style. But when I met Ken and heard

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Speaker 1: about this, I said, this is my style because inevitably

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Speaker 1: you're surrounded by not just Ken, who is beyond If

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Speaker 1: they were just him, that's enough. But at the races,

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Speaker 1: you're with really inspiring people from all over the world

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Speaker 1: who are challenging themselves, who you learn from. And at

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Speaker 1: the end of every race, everyone has a story. As

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Speaker 1: I've said before, everyone had challenges and everyone dealt with

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Speaker 1: them in their way or they didn't. But spending time

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Speaker 1: it's infectious. And I would argue in a time like

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Speaker 1: it is now, with so much negativity. We need many

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Speaker 1: more Ken Glass, but there won't be because he is

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Speaker 1: truly unique. All Right. I want to thank Ken again.

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Speaker 1: I look forward to As I said, I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to race with him for I think my fifth time.

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Speaker 1: This is an Ironman Brazil. It's a different Ironman Brazil.

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Speaker 1: I've done one. They're one of the hardest races I've

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Speaker 1: ever done. I'm glad it's not that one. It's a

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Speaker 1: different one. It's it's his, the one he's been doing

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Speaker 1: for many, many years. Again, Endurance Sport Travel. You can

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Speaker 1: look that up E s c dot Hostel at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. If you want to check out his brand

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Speaker 1: new being be in Cosumel. He's got rooms you can rent.

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Speaker 1: You can rent a bunk, just so laid back and

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Speaker 1: cool and fun. Highly highly recommend if you can make

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Speaker 1: it out there checking it out. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: If you have not yet rated the show, please do subscribe.

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Speaker 1: These are the kind of shows where I'll have the scientists,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the studies, will do all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: We also need just the true inspirational people to show

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Speaker 1: you that it can be done. And that goes for

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Speaker 1: the David Garcias of the world who lost a hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty pounds and kept it off and the glass

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Speaker 1: of the world. Who have you know been doing the

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Speaker 1: hawaiironment for almost four decades. He's I don't want you

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Speaker 1: to be limited in your goals thinking what you can achieve,

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Speaker 1: and that is what drives me crazy about articles that say,

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Speaker 1: can't escape your genetics, you can't do this, you can't

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Speaker 1: do that, Yes you can, Yes you can. Questions comments.

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Speaker 1: Tom h Fit is my Twitter and Instagram Tom h Fit.

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Speaker 1: Brand new website is Tom Holland Fitness my virtual gym.

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Speaker 1: You can check that out. Lots of new content going

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Speaker 1: up there each and every month and every week as well.

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Speaker 1: Um and Fitness disrupted dot com. You can email me

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Speaker 1: through the site there and The Micro Workout Plan is

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Speaker 1: my newest book. Thank you one final time to Ken Gua.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. And remember there are three things

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Speaker 1: we all control, how much we move, what we put

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Speaker 1: into our mouths, and our attitude, and that is awesome.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tom Honed. This is Fitness Disrupted, Believe in Yourself.

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