1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast. This 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: is a podcast all about professional wrestling. Joined Battle and 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: Eli as a breakdown what's going on in the world 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: of professional wrestling with special guests including some of your 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: favorite wrestling superstars. You never know who's gonna stop buy 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: now making their way to the microphone. 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: Give it up for. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: The greatest podcast team in the world, Battle and Eli. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: What is up you guys? It is time for another 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: episode of your favorite wrestling podcast, Battleground. I am your 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: host Battle along with my dope tag team partner Eli. Hello, 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: and uh man. What a great time it is to 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: be a wrestling fan. I mean we talk about this 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: every single week, and last week just literally proved why 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: it is a great time for being a wrestling fan. 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I got a little bit of wrestling fatigue 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: at the moment, but I mean it was It's kind 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: of one of those where, you know, some of the 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: biggest audiences in a very long time watch wrestling. And 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: I mean we're not even like really finished because NWA 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: has got their new show, Impacts moving to Tuesday. I 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: mean there's just there's still a lot of stuff going on, 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: so it's yeah, we'll see, we'll see how it goes. 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: You know, everyone's wish about I wish I had more 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: wrestling has come true. Now we have way more than 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: we know what to do with. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: Right, And then of course a W announces that they're 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: gonna be on Tuesday nights as well, showing like the 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: dark matches that happened before and after, which I think 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: that is a great move on their part because you 31 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: don't really see dark matches. So if you're let's say 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: you're a fan of Marco, he wrestled Wednesday night, but 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: you didn't get to see it, right. 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: Best friends, Yeah, they had a pretty stacked dark matches 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: for that. I was pretty surprised, but yeah, that's that's 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 3: a really good idea. 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: It was a smart move on their part. And I'm 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: trying to pull it up on Instagram. I think it's 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: like Aw's after Dark Maybe is that what it is? 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's either that or just dark. 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: I can't remember AW Dark. And so it's Tuesday. They're 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: going to feature matches you didn't see on a dynamite 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: And the best thing is it's hosted by Tony Shavani. 44 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: So that was itself was amazing to hear him and 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Jim Ross go back and forth Wednesday Night commentating it 46 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: was like reliving a childhood dream. 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: And him calling him JF a prick was unbelievable. 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: Oh it was the I mean sitting there watching it now. 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: I will say this though, and if you haven't checked 50 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: it out, Matt Riddle was on the show this last 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: week on Friday, and we kind of jumped into the 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: Wednesday Night Wars and I started watching the Matt Riddle 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: match to start off a NXT for the Wednesday Night Wars, 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: and we kind of talked to you know, him going 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: back and forth and how it was an honor app 56 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: you know, be the first match because NXT knew that 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: they had to blow the roof off and they knew 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: that was going to be the first match. But I 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: like how it was back in the old days because 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: WWE or NXT ran over like they would back in 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: the day when it was Raw versus Nitro Nitro it 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: in right at you know ten o'clock or whatever or 63 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: nine o'clock. WWF at the time would go to like 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: what ten ten I believe, like ten minutes over, Yeah, 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: just to get that final umph. 66 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. It was always always sneaky and that was you know, 67 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 3: even now rall, you know, from time to time we'll 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: run over. But when they were doing that whatever that 69 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: country reality singing show was with Jaco and that there 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: was a hard ten. So there was a couple raws 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: when that was going on where they stopped kind of 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: like right in the middle of something like, Oh, I 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: don't think they were ready for that to end right 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: that second. So I still think they kind of stretch 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: it out a couple of minutes past ten. But uh, yeah, 76 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: that was always there. That was their maneuver back in 77 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: the day. They'd always get a ten o three or 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 3: ten ten or something right. 79 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: And you know, kudos to AEW for Wednesday night because 80 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: I was sitting there just kind of watching it to 81 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: see what would happen after the big shocking finale, which 82 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: we'll kind of talk about that here in a little bit, 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: but I was kind of waiting to see if maybe, 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 2: you know, something was gonna happen. But kudos to AW 85 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: for replaying Dynamite again for people who didn't get the 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: chance to see it the first go around and didn't 87 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: feel like, you know, waiting to watch it on their DVR. 88 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I, you know, I want to say that 89 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: either Nitro or Thunder used to do that, And it 90 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: may not have been it may not have been like immediately, 91 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: it may not have been like you know, seven to 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: nine and then the repeats right at nine to eleven 93 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: or something. But I feel like they repeated it the 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: same night, like you know, the Thunder would go seven 95 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: to nine and then nine to ten they show something, 96 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: then ten to midnight they show Thunder again or something. 97 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought that was a really smart idea too. 98 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: And I haven't seen the ratings on that, but I'm 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: sure that was contributed to it as well. But I 100 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: guess they don't count reruns, so but yeah, I mean 101 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: I think they're I think they're doing everything right so far, 102 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: you know. 103 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: So far and something else that before we dive into 104 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: the whole I guess the meat of the episode. So 105 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm scrolling through Hulu and I forgot how great of 106 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: a movie The Wrestler was, And Hulu has The Wrestler 107 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: up available to watch, and I've already watched it like 108 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: three times in the past twenty four hours. 109 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to I need to go back and 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 3: watch that. I saw that at the theaters and and 111 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: that was that was in my dark phase. You know, 112 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: I had stopped watching wrestling for a while, and but 113 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: that one, it's yeah, really really good. I think they 114 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: could do a new like do a new version of it, 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: because now you know, you have you know, if you 116 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: were doing somebody you know, modeled after him. I mean 117 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: you look at the Rocke roll Express. But I mean, 118 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: like there's still you know, they've been on the They've 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: been on the Ring of Honor pay per view. There, 120 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: they were on the n W a special. 121 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, did the New Tag Team Champs? 122 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: I was just about to say no spoilers, but yeah, 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, well they're they're they're the new Tag Team, 124 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: the NWA Tach Team Champions. I think that's the ninth 125 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: time they've done it. They were at the uh I 126 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: forgot which promotion. 127 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: It was New Japan. 128 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was either New Japan or something earlier this 129 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: year when he hit the Canadian Destroyer and it went 130 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: oh yeah, you know, and he hit it again in 131 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: New Japan. Yeah, So I mean like they're still going so, 132 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: like you know, I'm sure obviously there are wrestlers that 133 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: their life is very similar to that movie, but there's 134 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: also those that are still going into their sixties and 135 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: they're performing at a really high level, you know. But yeah, 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: definitely an incredible movie if you've never seen it. 137 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: I mean, Tatonka still wrestling. I don't know if somebody 138 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: would want to watch a movie on him, but I 139 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: always enjoyed watching him wrestle back in the cartoon days. Yeah, 140 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: but yeah, So anyways, let's let's get into the actual show, which, 141 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: by the way, I realized we never did this the beginning. 142 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: We are on social media Instagram you can find it's's 143 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: Battleground podcast. Twitter is Battleground IHR, and if you're on Facebook, 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: just search Battleground podcast and you'll see us. I mean, 145 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: it's not hard to miss the logo, the wrestling ring, 146 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: the microphone. Anyways, but let's jump into it. The Wednesday 147 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: Night Wars. Their ratings are in and I'm kind of 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: looking at it right now. So according to online reports, 149 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: Dynamite averaged about point six to eight ratings and adults 150 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: eighteen forty nine, which is the wheelhouse for wrestling fans now. 151 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: And this kind of wrestling. This this wrestling for our age, 152 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: because I mean, we're not kind of watching Monday Night 153 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: Row because it's still kind of kiddish. But anyways, eighteen 154 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: forty nine, they averaged one point four million viewers over 155 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: two hours compared to what NXT got, which was a 156 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: point three to two and they averaged about eight hundred 157 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: and ninety one thousand viewers. And it just goes to 158 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: show NXT started off with a bang, and there's a 159 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: reason why it's called dynamite. I mean, AW started off 160 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: with a bank, not NXT. 161 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I I pretty much expected the 162 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: those results. I uh, you know, in my mind, I 163 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: kind of envisioned AW maybe having a few more viewers 164 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: than that, but you know, I definitely kind of anticipated 165 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: them beating NST just because it is new and you know, 166 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: bringing back Jim Ross, Tony Shavanni back on tn T. 167 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just a lot to look forward to. 168 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: And you know, I think I sent you the story 169 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: too that, you know, the very first week they moved 170 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: to USA, before the show was over, they were like, 171 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: we got to get out of full sell, you know, 172 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: And and I think that's what actually the Young Bucks 173 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: said that in an interview. They compared it to Impact, 174 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: and I think we talked about it on one of 175 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: the shows and it's just you know, seeing that same 176 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: arena with the same fans every week, that's gonna get boring, 177 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: it's gonna burn out. And same thing with like impact here. 178 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: You know, you could go to the Asylum every single 179 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: Wednesday and you saw what happened. Eventually people just got 180 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: bored and took it for granted and like, I'll just 181 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: go next week and then you know, it fizzled out. 182 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: So it was a big contrast to see AW, you know, 183 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: fifteen thousand people in a big arena and then switch 184 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: to full sell and they're six hundred people. You know, 185 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 3: So I you know you're gonna see n XT go 186 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: on the road. I I don't see how they can't 187 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: to this point, you know, to compete with AW. But yeah, 188 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: you know, I I mean, I'm glad that AW had 189 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: a big first night. I'm glad NXT's hanging in there. 190 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: You know, they're still neck and neck, and you know, 191 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: the true test is going to be where they're at 192 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: in three months and six months and nine months and 193 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: year and you know, uh, that consistency and just seeing 194 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 3: where they're at. And you know, if if AW introduces 195 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: the second show, like you know, ww's get Rowin SmackDown 196 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: technically NXT now, so you know if they try to 197 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: offer another program on a different night too. So so yeah, 198 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 3: it was a it was a good first first night. 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: You know, I think NXT had more fireworks, you know, 200 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: I think they stacked it more to try to you know, 201 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: cut the legs out from under aw But as far 202 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: as just a debut first show, I think they a 203 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: W knocked it out of the park. 204 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And you know, after after watching the Riddle 205 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: Coal Match, I switched back over to a W, and 206 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: I didn't really switch back over to NXT just because 207 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: I pretty much watched everything on Twitter and it didn't 208 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: really seem much because I mean, you know, you're sitting 209 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: there and Shana didn't drop the title like we thought 210 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: she was going to, so she retained Coal Retain. You know, 211 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: I think the highlight of Undisputed Area Undisputed Air Retained. 212 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: I think the highlight was just the fact that like 213 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: Finn Balor now announced that he's going back to NXT, 214 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: which I think that's good for them on a Wednesday 215 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: night standpoint, because I mean, let's be honest, I mean 216 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: ever since him, you know, dropping the belt after what 217 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: was it SummerSlam last year, being the first champion, they 218 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: really did it do much with him? 219 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and that that plays into I think we've 220 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: mentioned it before, but you know, Vince doesn't really pay 221 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: attention to NXT. Now. He probably is paying attention to 222 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: them now because they have a new deal with USA 223 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 3: and all that. But you know, when these people and 224 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: that kind of is a testament to how some people 225 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: from NXT went up and were fine and some of 226 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: them were just no man, you know, And so he didn't. 227 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: The rumor is he doesn't. He didn't know a lot 228 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: about Finn Balor, so he didn't know how over he 229 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: was in NXT, and so they gave him the belt 230 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: just because that's when Roman had failed that wellness test 231 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: and so you know, he was getting punished or whatever, 232 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: so like they couldn't give him the strap, so Finn 233 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: beat him clean and then I think it was just 234 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: a coin flip. They're like, Okay, I guess we'll give 235 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: it to Finn for now whatever. And then you know, 236 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: he obviously hurt his shoulder. So then Vince thought, Okay, 237 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: this is kind of a smaller dude that I don't know, 238 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: and he's injury prone and that was that was it, 239 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: that sealed his fate. So once he dropped the belt 240 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: and came back, he was never I mean, yeah, you know, 241 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: they did give him the match with bruck Lesner event eventually, 242 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: and he did have more time than Kofe did, which 243 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: is another story altogether, but you know, yeah, you know, 244 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: it's just it's just mind blowing how well you know 245 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: you go. You know, we'll go to NXT shows in Nashville, 246 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: and I just drove down to South Have in Mississippi 247 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: last weekend and Matt Riddle was there and Undisputed Air 248 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: and all that, and I mean these guys like, you know, 249 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: talking to Matt Riddle before the show started. I mean 250 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: they were like channing bro the whole time, like before 251 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: his match, during his match, after his match. I mean, 252 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: he is like insanely popular right now. But I bet 253 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: if he walked into RAWL right now, I don't know 254 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: Evince would I don't know Evince would do with him, 255 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: you know, and that's unfortunate. But anyways, long winded, I 256 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: think it's I think it's good that some of these 257 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: guys are going to get back down there, especially because 258 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: you know, I think that's gonna add some legitimacy to 259 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: the brand. So if you have Finn Balor and then 260 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: you have Cesarro and then you have whatever whoever else, 261 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, if you have these, you know 262 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 3: because going up to the main brand definitely widened your 263 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: appeal and makes your name stronger, so putting that back 264 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: on NXT add some legitimacy to it. So but I 265 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: mean they're not being used properly anyway, so like why 266 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: not why not have them go down there for a while. 267 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: So, right, and that's what you kind of see. You know, 268 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people like who maybe it was, was 269 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: it Sean Spears? Somebody asked him white and he go 270 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: back to NXT when he was kind of squashed up 271 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: in the main roster, and I think he said that 272 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: they didn't give him that option. 273 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said it option. 274 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: And it's like, you see, Tyler Breeze is in NXT, 275 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: fan Dang goes down in NXT, but you didn't really 276 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: see him on Wednesday night, I don't think. But that's 277 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: kind of the thing. It's like, it's a good thing 278 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: you should kind of treat NXT. It's not like a 279 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: minor league team because they're they're probably one of the 280 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: best products on TV when it comes to WWE. But 281 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: it's like, let's say that somebody not over in like 282 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: SmackDown or Roll and you take them down and you 283 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: make them over in NXT or kind of re not 284 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: I'm doing finger quotes right now, rehab an NXT to 285 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: rebuild or rebrand that character. 286 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's kind of I mean, it's 287 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: almost like, you know, NXT is not really the the 288 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: you know, the minor anymore or the you know I 289 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: I equate it to it. It's more like it's more 290 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: I guess Indian influence, So it's more like what you'd 291 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: see on Ring of Honor in New Japan. You know, 292 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: it's more of that style. So you know, that's their 293 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: version of that kind of popular worldwide wrestling, whereas Raw 294 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: and SmackDown is the PG corporate you know, so you 295 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: know it would be like Ron SmackDown or the blockbuster 296 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: Marvel movies. And then NXT is the indie flick that's 297 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: a little bit more violent, a little bit more you know, edgy. 298 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's all under the same corporate umbrella, but 299 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: it's just different studios or something. So so I think 300 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: that's why it's been so popular just because of all 301 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: these other organizations around the world have blown up over 302 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: the last you know, five, ten, fifteen years. 303 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, watching and I did feel like a kid 304 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: again because I would kind of flip back and forth 305 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: between you know, NXT and AW and Smart move on 306 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: both companies for doing limited commercial breaks or showing the 307 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: commercials and having like the double screen so you could 308 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: still watch what was going on. There was a few 309 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: hiccups in AW when they went to commercial break when 310 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: they really shouldn't have because there was so much momentum going. 311 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: But of course it's a new thing. They're still trying 312 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: to work things out because I think there was like 313 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: a viral thing that happened during the Jericho match where 314 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: I think somebody threw a hot dog at Jericho, so 315 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: kind of like the old w C W das when 316 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: people would throw food in the ring and he's like, 317 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: who threw this wiener in the lead ring or something, 318 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: and the course, all of a sudden, now viral videos 319 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: of like how he did the bubbly thing, somebody did 320 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: like a who Let the Dogs Out? Video with the wiener. 321 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: But they were like cracking up during commercial breaks, which 322 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: I mean that would have been cool to kind of see, 323 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: you know, on TV, but I get that you still 324 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: got to pay sponsors and you can only do so 325 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: many of the two screens in one yeah, before it 326 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: makes people's heads hurts. 327 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I thought it was pretty smooth, you know. 328 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I thought I thought it was 329 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: better than some of the some of their pay per views, 330 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: you know, as far as the production and and and 331 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: how smooth it is. So uh. I mean, that's just 332 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: gonna get better over time. You know, the more more 333 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 3: shows they get under their belt, the better the product's 334 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: going to be. So so I didn't have a lot 335 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: of complaints. 336 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, And I was super pumped that we got 337 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: Pyro finally back. Yeah, that was a big thing. Other 338 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: than like, you know, to be completely honest, I like 339 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: the raw setup. I know we're not talking about raw, 340 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: but I like the setup that they had the new stage. 341 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: A lot of people are like, oh, it's a half pipe, 342 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: but I think it's kind of cool of like it 343 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: gets it kind of gives them a little bit more 344 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: to play with with the entrance and just that random 345 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: looking door that they come out instead of it just 346 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: being a big gaping hole. 347 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was a cool I think, 348 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: I mean, we were going to talk about this later, 349 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: I assume, but I think SmackDown has the best set 350 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: right now. 351 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: Oh, hand down, it does. 352 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't spare a dime for that set. 353 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: It looked I mean just just the scale, you know, 354 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 3: like they would be shots where they kind of you know, 355 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 3: they'd show the action in the ring, but you could 356 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: see back to the entrance. I mean it was like 357 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: they were wrestling in like Disney or something like in 358 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 3: front of one of the you know, castles or something. 359 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it just it was just unbelievable. I really 360 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: wasn't expecting it to be to look that good, honestly, 361 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: but I I yeah, I really enjoyed the smack Down 362 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 3: or I'm sorry the raw said. You know, obviously, if 363 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: it's all just led boards, that's gonna be a logistic 364 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: nightmare because one goes out or one pixel goes out, 365 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 3: that's going to be noticeable. So I think it's going 366 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: to require more maintenance going forward. But you know, you 367 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: got to change it up eventually. He can't just do 368 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: the same thing over and over and over. 369 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, and you know, now we can kind of 370 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: go talk about Raw because we spent some time talking 371 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: about aw and the Wednesday Night Wars, which, by the way, 372 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: Matt Riddle was on the show Friday. You can hear 373 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: his take on the Wednesday Night Wars and a little 374 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: bit of shade that he threw at Seth Rollins because 375 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: Seth Rowlin said he sucked. But so, yeah, so Monday 376 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: Night Raw, nothing really exciting caught my attention. On Monday 377 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: Night Raw is like it was the season premiere and 378 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: they kept like reiterating season premiere on us say, I'm like, 379 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: you were on USA last week. It's not like you're 380 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: on a new show. The commentating, I wasn't Jude thrilled 381 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: with it, and I was scroing through Twitter and a 382 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: lot of people were not happy with the commentating on 383 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: Monday Night Rolls team. 384 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: By the end of it, it wasn't bad. You know, 385 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: you tell they got their footing, you know, halfway through 386 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: or whatever. But yeah, it's gonna be an adjustment for sure. 387 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you know, coming out and it was 388 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: supposed to be you know, Seth Rollins versus you know 389 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: Ray Mysterio for the title, which we knew something was 390 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 2: gonna happen and that wasn't gonna happen. I wasn't expecting 391 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: Rock to or brought to like completely kill Ray Mysterio 392 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: and his kid. But I think I was texting with 393 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: you about it was like this, this kind of sets up, 394 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, a storyline for Ray Mysterio and his kid, 395 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: and his kid can like cost Ray Masterio title match 396 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: and be like I did this because you know you 397 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: weren't there and saved me from Rock kind of thing. 398 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: Well, and it's I'm sure most people know by now, 399 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: or if you don't, you can you know, put two 400 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: and two together. But his uh, his kid has been training. 401 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: You know. That wasn't just he didn't do that. 402 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: It wasn't just let's yank him over the railing. 403 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, he's he's he's been training for 404 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: about two or three years now. So he you know, 405 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's ready to like do matches, 406 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: but he definitely can take bumps. 407 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: And literally after Monday night. 408 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, like the way he landed on 409 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: one of those suplexes that Bruck did was like picture perfect. 410 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: I mean, so he's you know, I saw a handful 411 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: of people like what the what the hell is he 412 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 3: doing to that kid, Like, well, that's not a normal kid, 413 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 3: you know, he's he's taking some bomps. I don't even 414 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 3: know how old this kid is, you know, I know 415 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: he's young, but I don't you know, so I don't 416 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: know if he's ready. You know, he said something about 417 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: my dream is to tag with my dad or some 418 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: or fight with my dad or something, and and you know, 419 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: they planted that seed, so he may be closer to 420 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: being ready to do something than we realize. But yeah, 421 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: that's obviously he was. He's been trained for that. So 422 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: they're not going to put Brock against some unknown random 423 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: kid because that's what that's how you spell lawsuit. 424 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: So oh yeah, but it's I do like how they're 425 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: kind of setting it up. And then this will kind 426 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: of transition to when we talk about SmackDown here in 427 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: a little bit. So Dominic is according to famous birthdays, 428 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: he's twenty two years old. If this is the Dominic 429 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: that I think it is. 430 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: He looks younger, but I mean still yees. So I mean, yeah, 431 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: he is an adult and he's been training, you know, 432 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: taking bumps and stuff. So that's that was That was 433 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: a controlled attack in case anybody was. 434 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: Wondering, Yeah, but you know, thinking back to it there, 435 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: that was about the only thing that really caught my 436 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: attention from Raw other than the end of or Well 437 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: setting up for the Crown Jewel. I really thought we 438 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: were about to see Hulk, Hogan and Rick Flair fight 439 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: each other, but then they just turned it into a 440 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: battle royal for the Crown Jewel, and I think, oh God, 441 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: thank goodness, like, yeah, we don't have to see that. 442 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: When you text me that, because I hadn't turned raw, 443 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 3: and yet I was like, Jesus Christ, you can't be serious. 444 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I know, I know Rick Flair 445 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: got cleared to take bumps earlier this year, and I 446 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 3: guess he did with Batista coming back and all that, 447 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: but he just turned seventy. Bro Like, we do not 448 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: need to see a seventy year old in wrestling match 449 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: in Hulk sixty seven, I think, I mean, like. 450 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you thought Goldberg and Undertaker was a rough match, 451 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: Wait till you see that one in Saudi Arabia. 452 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. And then of course, you know, arguably, and 453 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 3: this is arguably because I mean we would have to 454 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: sit down and look at it. But you know, arguably 455 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: the worst angle they've done in twenty years got worse. 456 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: Bobby Lashley and Lena. Oh it was horrible, Like, I 457 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 3: mean that whole crap with Mike and Maria and then 458 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: Russeph being the real dad or whatever. 459 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: But the thing is is they stopped talking about it. 460 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it hasn't been mentioned, that's the funny thing. 461 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: And then you know they were actually like very close 462 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: to bringing in Maury Povich and he was going to 463 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 3: do the whole you know, you are the father, you're 464 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: not the whatever. 465 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: Oh god, you just think about that right now. Yeah, 466 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: that's a fox wet dream right there. 467 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean twenty nineteen, and they were about to 468 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: go down that road, you know, and somebody came to 469 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: their senses like, now let's not do that. And then 470 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 3: so then you have Bobby Lashy come out. Who you know, 471 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: there's varying opinions about him. Obviously he's got an incredible look. 472 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: You know, his skill set's not bad. He's not great 473 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 3: on the mic, but not everybody is. But you know, 474 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: he was like Drew McIntyre and that when he left, 475 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: he kind of reinvented himself. I mean, he was the 476 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: top guy an impact pretty much. I mean, he was 477 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 3: always the champ and one time he had I think 478 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: both belts. I think he had the world title, end 479 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: the X Division. I mean they they strapped the rocket 480 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: on him, you know. But yeah, so Bobby Lashley, you know, 481 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: I you know, I guess we we kind of had 482 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: more hopes for him coming back and that hasn't really 483 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 3: panned out. Same thing with Drew McIntyre. You see him, 484 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 3: he's been around a lot, you know, you know, had 485 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: the Icy Belt and there's kind of a stable performing 486 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: with him and Drew McIntyre and I think Baron Corbin 487 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: and and then nothing happened with that. So anyways, so 488 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: then you know, have him come out and then Lena 489 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: come out and then like they're hardcore make it out. 490 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like awkward, you know, like opened down, 491 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: hung Yeah, like they went over bored and and you 492 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: can kind of see Rusf like his heartbreak a little bit. 493 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: Like I think he knew that that was coming, but 494 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: I don't think he knew. I mean the way it 495 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: looked was like they're like, hey, we're just gonna kiss 496 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: each other on stage. But you know, Bobby Lashley want 497 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: wants the full effect. 498 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 3: Well, and it's funny because you know, Bobby Lashley's married 499 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: Laya and Russof obviously married excuse me. So you know, 500 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: it's kind of one of those you almost think like, okay, 501 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: so are they punishing Rusoff Russof and Lena, like is 502 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 3: this some kind of like I'll show you, you know, 503 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: and like and then even at the SmackDown Blue Carpet, 504 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: Lena and Bobby Lashley were together. Yeah. I mean it's 505 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: this is a this is a nineteen ninety nine storyline, 506 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: you know, and it's so you know, and people or 507 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 3: you know, maybe not people, but you know, I think 508 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: there's people on the WWE that kind of laughed aw 509 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: when they're like, we're trying to give people an alternative, 510 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 3: and it's like why we've got all this content, Like 511 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: that's why that segment right there is why people are 512 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: looking for other products, because that is stupid. No one 513 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 3: wants to see that in twenty nineteen. Russof is incredible, 514 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: Lene is incredible, Mike and Maria incredible, Bobby Lashley is incredible. 515 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 3: I mean, you can do things with these guys without 516 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: something like that. 517 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, and we were all hoping that when Bobby 518 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: Lashley came back, we would get him in Brock. I 519 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: mean that was kind of the thing that we all 520 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: get rights is gonna happen. 521 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they both have successful MMA careers, they're 522 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: both like built like tanks, they're both world champs, former 523 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: world champs. Whatever. I mean. It sold itself. I mean, 524 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 525 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: But I mean it's crazy. And then fast forward to 526 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: let's talk about SmackDown for a little bit. You know, 527 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: to be completely honest, the way Fox treated SmackDown, they 528 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: treated this like it was the damn super Bowl, Like, 529 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I re showed the blue carpet, everybody's showing out, 530 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: and I was just like. 531 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: I liked the graphics in the show. It was like 532 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: they do on the NFL shows, you know, like the 533 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: floating like the floating JumboTron or whatever, you know, that 534 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: showed the stats from the wrestlers and stuff. That was 535 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: pretty cool. 536 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty cool and that, you know, 537 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: and that just goes to show what you know, they're 538 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: what they're doing is smart. And they then you see 539 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 2: that amazing set and I was like, holy crap, and Fox, 540 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: Fox is going balls to the wall with this. Like 541 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: like we were talking about the other day, like at 542 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: the radio station. I was listening on several of the 543 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: stations and they were running now it was it was 544 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: Fox seventeen and Nashville's commercials about the I guess the 545 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: news or whatever. But then it was like a donut. 546 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: So right after that air, it was literally a WWE 547 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: SmackDown commercial tagged in with the local stuff. And it 548 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: was like NonStop every commercial I would hear smack Down, 549 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: smacked Down, SmackDown. And it was cool because, like I 550 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: was scrolling through Twitter, which by the way, we're on 551 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: Twitter Battleground IHR, and like the local Fox people here 552 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: in Nashville, we're all posting up with the championship belt 553 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: in photos promoting SmackDown as well. And you know, and 554 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: I think, like I texted you, SmackDown being on Fox 555 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: is going to be good because people that just have 556 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: basic cable, rabbit ears, you know whatever, they can't get 557 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: the USA network. But everybody can get Fox seventeen in Nashville. 558 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: Right And I I'm not gonna discount that that is 559 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: that is something to consider. But you know, at this time, 560 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: in this day and age, most people have some kind 561 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 3: of access to TV. You know what I mean, right, 562 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: I mean, even if they do you know, YouTube TV 563 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: or Hulu TV or whatever, you know, sling box. I mean, 564 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: there's all kinds of stuff out there you can get, 565 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 3: you know, quote I'm doing, I'm doing your air quotes 566 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: here the quote unquote cable TV for starting at thirty 567 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: bucks a month, you know what I mean. So I 568 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: don't think that's as big of a factor as it 569 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: was twenty years ago, when you know, everybody had to 570 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: have cable TV and everybody had a cable box and YadA, YadA, YadA. 571 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: You know. 572 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: I think the biggest takeaway that I have for this 573 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: is that, you know, at one point, I think somebody 574 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: said SmackDown did over four million people, you know. I 575 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: think I think they said it was when the rock 576 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: was out with Becky, you know. I think that's when 577 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: it peaked, and it's and it's their viewership. 578 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at ratings right now, and for the 579 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: total from like eight to ten, what's three point nine million? 580 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: Excuse me? How to get a little sit there parched? 581 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 3: So that number Loan was like probably twice what I 582 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: was thinking, because it is it was a Friday night, 583 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: you know, that's notoriously a Bad Night for anything really. So, 584 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 3: but what people have to realize is like they're not 585 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: going to have this caliber of a show. 586 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: Every week, No, not at all. 587 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: You know, the Rock is never going to be on 588 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: the show again. Well he might, but I mean very seldomly. 589 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: Is he gonna be less just to promote Jamuji Yeah, 590 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: Fast and Furious twenty seven or Jumanji Part five whatever. 591 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: You know, we're most likely not going to have Brock 592 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: defending his title on that show again. You know, that's 593 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: probably never gonna happen. 594 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: Why he's the champ, which you'll talk about that in 595 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: just a little bit. 596 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. So, so your analogy for Super Bowl 597 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 3: was pretty much that was dead on. I mean, that 598 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: was their super Bowl. That that kicking it a kind 599 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: of kind of like NASCAR's biggest race is the very 600 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: first one, the Daytona five hundred. I mean that kind 601 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: of was their biggest match out of the or the 602 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 3: biggest show is you know, we got to swing for 603 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: the fences. And you know, I made a joke to you. 604 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: I was like, well, if I spend a billion bucks 605 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: getting those rights, I would roll out all the stops too, 606 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: you know. But so you know, Obviously, the set's incredible. 607 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: You know, we're about to have the draft, and you know, 608 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: obviously Fox once the players, USA once Day players, so 609 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: that's gonna be interesting. But you know, don't expect this 610 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: much glitz and glam on every single show. They just 611 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: did this to hit the home run out of the gate. 612 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's you know, I'm looking at I guess 613 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: Deadline did a report and it was saying, uh, SmackDown's 614 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: Fox debut was up from the shows twenty nineteen to 615 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: date averaged on USA, SmackDown drew more viewers than Raw 616 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: did and this was the most watched WWE telecast since 617 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: January of twenty eighteen, and that was RAW twenty five. 618 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: Oh that makes sense. 619 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, so, I mean they they treat like, like 620 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: we said, they treated this like the Super Bowl. They 621 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: rolled out the pre show thing where you could watch 622 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: the interviews, and they've put Michael Cole and Corey Graves, which, 623 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: which is what I want to know is what's weird. 624 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: And we've talked about this before, so Dodby a couple 625 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: weeks ago, they're like, here's our announced teams, and it 626 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: was like the three guys with or the two Guys 627 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: with Jerry Lawler for all the NXT is still the same, 628 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: and then it shows SmackDown. It was like Corey Graves, 629 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: Michael Cole and Renee and it showed them three as 630 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: the announcers. And then you tune in Friday Night and 631 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: it's Corey Graves and Michael Cole. 632 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah and see. And then the report that I had 633 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: that I sent you said that she wasn't so me 634 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: and you were just like h And I think we 635 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: even I think on one of our shows, I think 636 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: it was one of the ones where I was at 637 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: the studio, you actually said like, yeah, those three are 638 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: moving over, and I mean we just couldn't get a 639 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: clear answer. I mean, like, you know, you'd send me 640 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: a link that showed all three. I show you one 641 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: that said two, and I mean we just had no clarification. 642 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: So I think I even said something like, I mean, 643 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: I guess we'll find out when they air it. And 644 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: so it looks like for the time being, she's not 645 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: gonna do it, and she's gonna do the The Fox 646 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 3: Show with Booker t or whatever which on Tuesday nights, 647 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 3: Tuesdays or Wednesdays. Yeah, and then there's a rumor that 648 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: seem Punk has not only auditioned for it, but that 649 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 3: he's in the running to be the third host on 650 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 3: that as well. 651 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: So and I saw that report. And then there was 652 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: also the part of in the report, I think I 653 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: saw that that WWE doesn't have any say so in 654 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 2: this show. They're just using the talent. So that's why 655 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: I see him Punk is like, I'll do this show, 656 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 2: but I'm not employed by WWE. It's it's a Fox 657 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: employed show. 658 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that that I think that was the biggest 659 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: thing is he's you know, that's kind of letting him 660 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 3: dip his toes back into the company without actually having 661 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: to deal with the company. 662 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, but I mean, SmackDown, that set was phenomenal 663 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there looking at it, and it's really 664 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: cool at the entrance where they have those pillars. So 665 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: that adds a little bit more ump factor. But the 666 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: whole time I was sitting there thinking, I was like, Okay, 667 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: Shane or Kevin Owens is going through one of those. 668 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: That was the first thing that popped in my head. 669 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was I think that was everybody's first thought. 670 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean, but I mean the set was beautiful, and 671 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean the whole night was great. Now, I was 672 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: at my oldest son's baseball practice, so I was kind 673 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 2: of having to watch things through Twitter, and I did 674 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: notice that a lot of people were extremely pissed and 675 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 2: they were actually channing ae W at SmackDown because they 676 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: had advertised that Stone Cold and Undertaker were going to 677 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: be there and they were nowhere in the building. 678 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought Sting was going to be there, 679 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: and I mean, they had a list of people that 680 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 3: was supposed to be there, and then I guess, I 681 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: guess Undertaker posted something on Instagram and somebody was like, 682 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 3: oh man, we wish to head you instead of that 683 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: crap ending with Kine And then he replied and said 684 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 3: I was told I wasn't needed, so he was at 685 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: the show, and so obviously something with Vince. He changed 686 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: his mind last minute. So so the scary thing is 687 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 3: is just that where they're at now, I don't know 688 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: how much time he's going to put towards XFL. Yeah, 689 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 3: you know that. The thought was is that Raw is 690 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 3: going to be kind of dragging, SmackDown's going to be 691 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: kind of dragging, NXT will be with Triple Ah, Okay, cool, 692 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 3: this is his perfect time to kind of focus more 693 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 3: of his attention on XFL. Well, no, this is the 694 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 3: biggest week they've had in twenty years, so no, he's 695 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 3: got all of his attention on this product again, so 696 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 3: that's disappointing. But anyways, it's a good obviously good week 697 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 3: for wrestling. There's a lot of lot of content to consume. 698 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: The thing because when aw was going going off the air, 699 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 2: they had a shot heard around the world. It was 700 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,959 Speaker 2: a big ordeal. John Moxley showed up and interrupted the match, 701 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 2: which I thought, Okay, maybe this is going to set 702 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: something up. Somebody's gonna come out and be, you know, 703 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: the third member with the Young Bucks. 704 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to interject on that, I mean, did they 705 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: announce that that was like a no disqualification? And I 706 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: just missed it. 707 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 4: Because there was none none of that, because that should 708 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 4: have ended the match, I mean, you know, and that's 709 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 4: what I was thinking was But then I looked at 710 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 4: my watch and I was like, well, there's like twenty 711 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 4: minutes still left, right, and somebody's. 712 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 3: Kind of starting to grade on people's nerves. And I 713 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: mentioned it at one of the one of the pay 714 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 3: per views, the one with the Bucks and Kenny against 715 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: the whoever the other three way the six Men tag and. 716 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: Uh the Luca brothers and what's his name? 717 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that one, and it was just a free 718 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: for all, like you know, there'd be four people in 719 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: the ring at one time, and then the legal man 720 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 3: wasn't the one actually in there, and then and there'd 721 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: be you know, three on one and then two on two, 722 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: and just the ref was just letting it happen. And 723 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: I was like, this is not a tag match. This 724 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: is just they're setting up spots. That's it. That's all 725 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 3: they're doing. And so much to my dismay, I actually 726 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: agreed with Jim Cornette for a split second, and that shocker. Yeah, 727 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: I mean that that was not actual, That was not 728 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: actually storytelling, That was not actually real traditional pro wrestling, 729 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: you know, And you know, until i'd heard one of 730 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: his rants and then really saw it and paid attention 731 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 3: to it, like, oh, well, he actually does have a 732 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: point there, and so same kind of thing is just 733 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 3: like that's like in you know, I'm using their quotes 734 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 3: in your traditional tag team rules and matches and stuff. 735 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that's a huge no no. Someone coming in 736 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 3: and interfering with the match and basically disposing of one 737 00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: of the participants, that's a DQ, that's it match over. So, 738 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 3: you know, I think for as much as they're putting 739 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 3: emphasis on time limits and rankings and YadA, YadA, YadA, 740 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: you know, they're still having a lot of liberties with 741 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: basic pro wrestling, pro wrestling rules in etiquette, you know 742 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: what I mean. I think for most of their fan 743 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 3: base it's not going to be an issue. But if 744 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 3: they're really trying to be hardcore, traditional and hardcore, you know, 745 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 3: bringing back these tropes that have you know, some of 746 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: them have disappeared, they're also taking liberties with a lot 747 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 3: of basic fundamental parts of matches. So right, I don't know, 748 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: and I think one thing I started interrupt though, but yeah, 749 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: the big surprise was. 750 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the big surprise, you know, Aw, you sit there, 751 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 2: Moxley takes out Omegas, so you're thinking, Okay, who's going 752 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: to be the third person to come down? It never happened. 753 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 2: Then it was just three on two, and then all 754 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Cody comes out, and then Sammy Gamerica 755 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 2: comes out. It's just just free for all. But then 756 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: you hear the entire arena erupt and it's Jack Swagger 757 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: comes in and annihilates everybody, and a buddy of mine 758 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 2: had texted me and then I sent you the text 759 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 2: for him, and it was the funniest thing in the 760 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: world because once let me see I could find this 761 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: in my phone because I died laughing and I don't 762 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 2: have it anymore. But he talked about it's funny how 763 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 2: Jack Swagger goes from wrestling in front of thirty people 764 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 2: and to fifteen thousand people. 765 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because he's he's he's similar to Jericho, 766 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,479 Speaker 3: and the fact that him and Vince have a really 767 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 3: good relationship, and like, you know, after he left, you know, 768 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 3: he stayed in touch with Vince, and I think I 769 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 3: don't remember if it was Vince or if he was 770 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 3: eight or if it was just the WWE account. I 771 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: don't remember. But someone tweeted out like congratulations to him 772 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 3: after he won his first MMA fight and also kind 773 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 3: of digged at Sam Punk. 774 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: So. 775 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 3: You know, I think behind the scenes, I think that 776 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 3: was a bigger I think that was a bigger FU 777 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 3: to WW than people are realizing, just because most most 778 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 3: of the time they don't acknowledge people once they leave 779 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: the company. They don't care if it's you know, race 780 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 3: car driving or wrestling, an impact or whatever. I mean, 781 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 3: you know, once you leave the company there, you're kind 782 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 3: of dead to them. So the fact that they tweeted 783 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 3: that out, that's pretty big, you know what I mean. 784 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 3: So the fact that he is back in a major 785 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,479 Speaker 3: corporation and is now their biggest competitor, I think that's 786 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 3: that's a you know, I wonder if we're going to 787 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 3: hear news about this coming out in the next couple 788 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 3: of weeks. I think that's a bigger f you to 789 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 3: WWE than people are realizing. So but you know, when 790 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 3: we saw him in Nashville again, it was kind of 791 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: a small crowd. But I mean, he's still got it. 792 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he's probably thirty three, thirty four. He's staying 793 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 3: in great shape obviously for doing the M and A stuff. 794 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 3: I think he's either two and oh or three and 795 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 3: oh now, so I mean he's I mean, he could 796 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 3: go with Brock right now if he wanted to. So, 797 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think it was the surprise people 798 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: were expecting, But I think it was more of a 799 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 3: political move and I think it was more of a 800 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 3: big middle finger to the WWE if anything else. So, 801 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 3: but I mean, I like, I like swagger, you know, 802 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: I never really liked the we the people stuff. But 803 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 3: if you go back and watch that they were channing that, 804 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 3: I mean he was like he was really over. So 805 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 3: I mean, like people still like him obviously, but uh, 806 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 3: you know, I always thought he was a good wrestler, 807 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 3: and I thought he you know, maybe didn't get developed 808 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 3: the right way or it didn't really get this the 809 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 3: shots he probably should have just for being a bigger 810 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 3: guy that can move and stuff. But uh, you know, 811 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 3: we'll see see what he does here. 812 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 2: So yeah, and so that was kind of the I 813 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 2: guess the shot heard around the world when it came 814 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: to wrestling. And then you know, Vince and the crew 815 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: are like, here, hold my beer. Watch this. So Friday 816 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 2: Nights mack Down goes all throughout Kofe versus Brock and 817 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,959 Speaker 2: we've called this on the show. Now if you haven't 818 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 2: seen it, this is on you because this is all 819 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 2: over the internet. But shocker spoiler alert, brock Lesner won 820 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: the title. The thing that really bothered me about the 821 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 2: match one eight seconds. In eight seconds. The thing that 822 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 2: bothered me about the match wise, they didn't even give 823 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: Kofe a fighting chance it was Kofe tried to come 824 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: run flying me, Brock caught him f five one two three. 825 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: That was at the end, Like they basically said, thanks 826 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 2: Kofe for all that you've done. We don't like you 827 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: having the belt anymore. We're gonna give it to Brock 828 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 2: and make you look weak. 829 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 3: Yep, and I sent you that the quote from Forbes. 830 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 3: Actually Forbes Magazine did a report on it. But why 831 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 3: is it that seth Rawlins, aj Styles, Daniel Bryant and 832 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 3: even developmental demotee ouch Finn Balor got to have epic 833 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 3: David Versus Goliath matches against brock Lesnar, whereas Kofe Kingston 834 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 3: was squashed faster than a Brad Shephard rumor if you 835 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 3: don't know who Brad Sheppard is, you should google it. 836 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 2: Yes, but I mean even when they did that special 837 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: WWE Network where they told people to stay up till 838 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning to watch the Beast in 839 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 2: the East where they touted brock Lesnar go into what 840 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 2: was it Japan or whatever he faced Kofe and it 841 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 2: was at least a fifteen to twenty minute match. It 842 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 2: wasn't a squash. 843 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. I mean, from a business standpoint, 844 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 3: purely economical. They're getting the biggest draw quote unquote, biggest 845 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 3: draw on SmackDown on the premiere, the biggest audience. They 846 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 3: got to do something. I get it. That makes sense. 847 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 3: You know, you haven't really seen. 848 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: Bra Uh. 849 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 3: You haven't seen Brock that dominant in a long time, 850 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 3: you know. 851 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: And it's not kind of brings in the UFC fans 852 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 2: that are because UFC's on Fox. 853 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously what we're about to get to plays 854 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 3: into that as well. But yes, and you know, I've 855 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 3: talked to you about it. You know, we've got to 856 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 3: remember Kofe was never supposed to be here, you know, 857 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 3: he mustapha Ali got injured, he got put in, and 858 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 3: then Kofe Mania just blew up, you know. And I 859 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 3: even thought, I didn't think they're gonna give the belt 860 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 3: to him at WrestleMania. I didn't, you know. I'm We've 861 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 3: talked about on the show. I'm kind of drawn more 862 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 3: to the heels than the good guys, you know. To me, 863 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 3: I think it's really easy to be a good guy. 864 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 3: I think to get you know, there's heel heat and 865 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 3: then there's go home heat, and you know, if you 866 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 3: get that heel heat where people, you know, they're giving 867 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: you a reaction, not like I don't I'm bored, I 868 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 3: want you to leave. You know, that's really tough. And 869 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 3: when Daniel Bryan moved over to the heel role, he 870 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 3: was doing some of the best stuff he's done in 871 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 3: his whole career. I mean, it was unbelievable. And I 872 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 3: just and obviously ww's track record with Africa African American champions, 873 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 3: so I would have bet pretty much any amount that 874 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 3: he was not gonna win. So you know, it ended 875 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 3: up being probably the best match of arguably of the 876 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 3: WrestleMania and also probably the best moment of the year. 877 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 3: And then he's been booked kind of inconsistent. I mean, 878 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 3: there's been some some highlights, but I mean I wouldn't 879 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 3: say he's been like, you know, the most dominantly booked 880 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 3: champ they've had in the last two or you know, 881 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 3: two or three years or anything. But I mean the 882 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 3: fact that he's had it this long, I was surprised. Again, 883 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 3: But no matter what, you know, I kind of I 884 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 3: kind of was not arguing, but I was kind of 885 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 3: staying in my opinion with somebody on Twitter I mean 886 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 3: they had so much time leftover, Like you'll never convince 887 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 3: me that that was a that was done because of time. 888 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 2: Constraints, you know, right. 889 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: I mean, there he's done, he's in the ring. Paul 890 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 3: Heyman comes up, gives him the belt, and then Raymonsterio 891 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 3: comes out, and then Kane do when we say it already. 892 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead and say we'll talk about that. 893 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 3: So cain velaskaz is he was the mystery guy comes 894 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 3: out with the Raymisterio slowly walks to the ring, get in, 895 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 3: have the showdown. They have the little scuffle. Brock leaves, 896 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 3: goes all the way to the ramp, turns round, walks 897 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 3: back like he's coming to do something else, stops, goes back. 898 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 3: Then the show goes off, Like, bro you could have 899 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 3: given Kofe five minutes, like there's no reason that he 900 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 3: was squashed in eight seconds, Absolutely no reason at all. 901 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 3: So I don't know, man, I it's almost like it's 902 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 3: almost like they gave him the title, like we'll hold 903 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 3: this for a little bit. Once the Brock's ready, we're 904 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 3: gonna give him the belt, or once we're on you know, 905 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 3: once we go to Fox, he's getting the bat or something. 906 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 3: You know, it was like he was a placeholder, you know. Yeah, 907 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 3: and you know I told you this. I mean, I'm 908 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 3: surprised they didn't do this with Brock right after WrestleMania. 909 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm surprised this wasn't the first thing on SmackDown. Like, 910 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 3: you know, he gets his WrestleMania moment, they have the're 911 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 3: all after Mania, and then they have SmackDown after Mania, 912 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 3: and then he's there and then Brock comes out, challenges him, 913 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 3: and boom, He's champion for two days. That's how that 914 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 3: normally would have played out. But they were holding this 915 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 3: for obviously this to go to SmackDown. So so again, 916 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 3: I think we're stuck with the reign that no one 917 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 3: asked for. And you know, one of their most popular 918 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 3: champion champions of all time is no longer Chip and 919 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 3: uh now we're setting up a two former UFC ers 920 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 3: going against it in the wrestling ring. 921 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,800 Speaker 2: Well, and you know, when it happened, I was like, Okay, 922 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: KOFE got squashed. There was still what ten minutes or 923 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: so left, give or take. 924 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like somebody if somebody said the match 925 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 3: actually started with like nine minutes left. Yeah, And I 926 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 3: still was like, well, okay, cool. You still could have 927 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 3: given them five minutes and then had four minutes to 928 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 3: all that other crap, and and somebody chimed in, well, 929 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 3: they needed to do the champion celebration and then they 930 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 3: needed to do this, and then I was like, they 931 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 3: didn't need to do that. 932 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 2: No, you could have easily just walked off Paul Haman 933 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 2: you know hit you know, gives him the belt, blah 934 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: blah blah, and then that's when you know, the Ray 935 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 2: Masterios music hits, and I was like, oh god, this 936 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 2: is this is we we squashed kofe for a David 937 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 2: and goliathing like, you're literally gonna give Ray Mystereo time 938 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 2: to come out here and beat up brock Lesner and 939 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 2: set up a storyline that nobody wants to watch of 940 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 2: brock Lesner and Ray Mysterio. Like but then, and I 941 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 2: even tweeted about it when they they had the camera 942 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,240 Speaker 2: set up and it was like, good lord, the camera 943 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: was so far away from the top of the ramp 944 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 2: you couldn't see anything. And I was like, I was like, 945 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 2: why is Ray Mysterio's son about to try to come 946 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: out and wrestle or fight brock Lesner Because It's like 947 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 2: all I saw was Ray Masterio in a sling and 948 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 2: you know, Kin was in a knee brace, and I 949 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 2: was like, I didn't realize it was Kane, and I 950 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 2: was like, wow, Dominic is about to take his shirt off, 951 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 2: like and he's taking his shirt off, and I was like, Okay, 952 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 2: this is going to be the most stupidest way to 953 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 2: end SmackDown. You hype it up being on Fox and 954 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 2: you have Ray Mysterio's son try to come beat up, 955 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: and then I saw the tattoos and I was like, 956 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 2: holy crap. Like the UFC fan in the back of 957 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 2: my mind was like this is great. Like the dude 958 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 2: that knocked out and put brock Lesner out of UFC 959 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 2: is now in WWE. And then when he came down, 960 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 2: you could see there's still some things with Kine that 961 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 2: he's got to work on with his hitting, because like 962 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 2: you saw that open handed fist hit, like it wasn't 963 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 2: you know, sellable of the way they were hitting, and 964 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 2: it could have just been the camera angle, but it 965 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 2: looked good. But then you come to find out you 966 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 2: look at reports and it's like WWE still hasn't signed 967 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 2: Kane to a deal, and I'm like what like they 968 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 2: would never let they would bring somebody in, but they 969 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 2: would never let them do what Caine did to Brock, 970 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 2: like prime example, Tyson Fury and Braun Showman. They're probably 971 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 2: setting that up for WrestleMania next year. The boxer, but 972 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 2: he hopped the railing, but he didn't touch Braun. 973 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: M h. 974 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. I well, And for those that don't know Kane 975 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 3: Velaska has he's he's actually been wrestling on the indies 976 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 3: at least this year. 977 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 2: He's been with Triple A for the past couple of months, right, Yeah. 978 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 3: And for most people that I've seen, like on Twitter 979 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 3: and stuff, they said that he's far more advanced at 980 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 3: this stage than he probably should be. And you know, 981 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 3: and you know, you look at Matt Riddle, you look 982 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 3: at Ken Shamrock. You know, I think that's an easy 983 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 3: transition for them. You know, I think the biggest things, 984 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 3: like Matt Riddle said, is you're really selling and kind 985 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 3: of telling a story with the person you're competing with, 986 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 3: and it's not about trying to hurt them. It's trying 987 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 3: to paint the picture, so to speak. And so you know, obviously, 988 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, I'm shocked that they brought him in this early. 989 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 3: You know, I think definitely it kind of paints itself, 990 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 3: you know, considering their history together. But you know, again, 991 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 3: they had to have a home run for this show, 992 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 3: so so I think for the average fan it might 993 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 3: have been a little like what what is I mean? 994 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 3: I know they were in UFC together, Like why is 995 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 3: he here? I mean he's actually been wrestling. He transitioned 996 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 3: over to that the least this year, maybe even last year. 997 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's gonna be as bad as 998 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 3: people are thinking. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if 999 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 3: it's a one off deal, if they're you know, they 1000 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 3: sign him for a small program with him and then 1001 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 3: they're they do the thing at the Crown Jewel and 1002 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 3: then that's it. Or if they see potential in him, 1003 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 3: then they'll put him on n X two or something. 1004 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, definitely not how I expected 1005 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 3: the end of the show to go at all. 1006 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 2: Just side note, I'm scrolling through Twitter and sky Sports. 1007 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,280 Speaker 2: WWE has posted this video about them talking to Goldberg 1008 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 2: asking if he knew who Matt Riddle was, and Matt 1009 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 2: was like, why you always lying? Bro? Question Mark? Sorry 1010 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 2: side note this little thing, but but yeah, it's it's 1011 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 2: it's bringing in and we've talked about this before, having 1012 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 2: Kane come in, it brings in those UFC fans because everybody, 1013 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 2: if you're not the average wrestling fan, but you're an 1014 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 2: average UFC fan, you're gonna know when you hear Brock 1015 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 2: Lesner and Kane Velaskaz, you're gonna think back, Oh, UFC, 1016 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 2: let's see what they do in WWE, even though we 1017 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 2: know it's pulling back the curt and breaking k fib 1018 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 2: right now, even though we know it's all scripted, it's fake, 1019 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 2: we know that there is a legit outcome, a pre 1020 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 2: plan outcome in WWE, not in UFC. You know, does 1021 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 2: Kane Velasquez win the title or is this going to 1022 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 2: be a long dragged out thing that we see it? 1023 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 2: And you know, WrestleMania and Tampa because it's near Florida 1024 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 2: and you know, just putting demographics out there, the Latino 1025 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 2: community is very strong in Florida. Do they do that 1026 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 2: there like they would have, you know, done Brock in 1027 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 2: the Middle East because he's you know, he's over there, 1028 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 2: Like do they let Caine win it at WrestleMania because 1029 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 2: of the demographic in the area. 1030 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I would be floored if they gave him 1031 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 3: the belt, you know, for some reason, and you know 1032 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 3: I've made jokes about this, you know, for as much 1033 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 3: more money as they pay Brock and for as little 1034 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 3: as they rest he wrestles, I mean, they give him 1035 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:11,400 Speaker 3: the belt by default, you know. So I'm sure it 1036 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,439 Speaker 3: was one of those things where Brock is like, yeah, 1037 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 3: I bring him in, I'll do a program with him. 1038 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 3: I'm going over like I'm not gonna lose to him twice, 1039 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 3: or or it'll be a thing like Goldberg where they 1040 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 3: he loses to him, you know, the pay review before WrestleMania, 1041 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 3: and then he does his rematch immediately and wins it 1042 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 3: back at WrestleMania or something like that. You know. I 1043 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 3: think if it's like the last thing is him winning it, 1044 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 3: then he'll do it. But yeah, i'd be I'd be 1045 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 3: very surprised. And you know, going back to the Bronze 1046 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 3: Stroman thing, I mean, they might as well do something 1047 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 3: with that. I mean, his character's pretty much dead at 1048 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 3: this point. I mean, I just you know, we talked 1049 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 3: about it on the previous episode, but I just there's 1050 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 3: nothing they can do with that character now, you know, 1051 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 3: I mean, so why not put him up against the 1052 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 3: world heavyweight champion in boxing? I mean, what else is 1053 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 3: they gonna do? 1054 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 2: Sometime down the line they eventually give Braun the heavyweight 1055 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 2: championship and then it's like the heavyweights battles the heavyweight 1056 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But I don't really see them paying 1057 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 2: Tyson Fury a boatload of money to come in and lose. 1058 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 3: But then again, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if 1059 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 3: they did that because they've already screwed up the character 1060 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 3: Ron Struman, so we're not have him lose to a 1061 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 3: non wrestler. I mean, it can't get any worse at 1062 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 3: this point. 1063 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 2: No, unless he, you know, loses to the kid that 1064 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 2: he won the tag team title with. But anyways, it 1065 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: doesn't I don't know, it's it's it is fun. It 1066 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: is a great time to be a wrestling fan. And 1067 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,439 Speaker 2: you know were I will tell you this if since 1068 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 2: you've made it this far in the episode, we do 1069 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 2: have recorded this on Sunday. Today is Sunday that we're recording. 1070 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 2: So Helena sel Is tonight. Will we watch it? Probably 1071 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 2: only the seth and match. 1072 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to. I want to see how they 1073 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 3: ruin Bray Wyatt this time. 1074 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 2: So we'll have to talk about that on the later episode, 1075 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,360 Speaker 2: just because we are recording today because it's gonna be 1076 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 2: a crazy week for us this week with me being 1077 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 2: on vacation and then you've got a couple, you've got 1078 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 2: a trade show, and then you're going out of town 1079 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 2: this weekend. So this week's episodes are We're gonna have 1080 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 2: a fun one on Friday, I'll tell you that much. 1081 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 3: This one's a little longer to kind of make up 1082 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 3: for it. 1083 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 2: So correct and Friday's episode is gonna be very interesting, 1084 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 2: which we will tell you on Friday. But yeah, this 1085 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 2: is gonna end today's show. 1086 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 3: So do you wanna do you wanna go ahead and 1087 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 3: mention the challenge just because it's a little bit Yeah, 1088 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 3: go ahead and mention the challenge. So we're gonna do uh, 1089 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 3: I'll probably go ahead and include Raw just to you know, 1090 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 3: not make them feel left out. But so we're we're 1091 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 3: gonna do basically the four wrestling programs that was aired 1092 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 3: last week, so Raw, AW, Dynamite, NXT, and then SmackDown. 1093 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 3: And so the weekly challenge is for you to pick 1094 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 3: the winner, like which one did you watch or which 1095 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 3: one do you think won the battle out of all those, 1096 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 3: you know, all that kind of stuff. It's an important 1097 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 3: week for wrestling. We've still got other stuff coming up 1098 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 3: at the n w A show. I think de Wuts 1099 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 3: this week, I'm not sure. I'll have to double check, 1100 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 3: and then Impacts moving to Tuesday as well. We have 1101 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 3: no idea what's going on with Ring of Honor. They're 1102 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 3: in our thoughts and prayers at the best. I mean, 1103 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what's happening on the 1104 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 3: but you know, just tons of stuff right now going 1105 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 3: on for that, So we thought it'd be kind of 1106 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 3: fun to do that instead of an actual like two 1107 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 3: competitors against each other. So that'll be the challenge. 1108 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 2: So there is your challenge for this week. And then Friday, 1109 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a very fun episode which we will 1110 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 2: explain on Friday's episode what it is. So you can 1111 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 2: laugh at U, at us or well laugh at me 1112 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 2: for Friday's episode. But anyways, that's gonna wrap up the 1113 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 2: show today. You can find us. We're on Instagram, Battleground Podcast, Twitter, 1114 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 2: We're Battleground IHR, and if you're on Facebook, just search 1115 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 2: Battleground podcast and give us a like and a follow 1116 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 2: and a nice little review. But yeah, that's it for 1117 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 2: the day. 1118 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 3: Right, that's it. 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