1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, this is Ashlyn Harris and welcome back to 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,039 Speaker 1: Wide Open. So I just got back from a family 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: trip to the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, which 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: is where I went to college as a student athlete. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, it was my first time back in so long. 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: It was so fun. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: So we were kicking off International Women's Day there and 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: we were just talking about the importance that Carolina played 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: on developing me as a woman, not just a player, 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: but what it gave me. And it was really cool 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: to be able to think the very. 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: People in that room that built me. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: So my coaches showed up, some of my national team 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: coaches from when I was fifteen, my goalkeeper coaches, current players, 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: past academic advisors. 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: It was really special. 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: And my kids got to be there and watch it, 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: and Sofia was there and now we're all dripped out 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: in Carolina merchandise. But was really special to go back, 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: tie a bow on it and think the people who 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: believed in me from the beginning, who really gave me 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: a chance. And I got to talk about the importance 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: of character and resilience and grit and all the things 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: I learned from my experience in college and being able 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: to leave as a three time national champion was so 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: so much smaller than the knowledge I gained as a 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: woman that would prepare me for the rest of my life. 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: So it was a great week. I'm very lucky. The 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: most surprising part about going back to campus because we 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: were walking it and I was just thinking, like I 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: was such a bullish little gram who charged this giant 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: university from such a small beach town. 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: Mini public school. 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Like it was just crazy to me because I didn't 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: understand the levity of how big of an institution it is, 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: not just for academics but sports and excellence. And going 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: back to campus as a grown ass forty year old, 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, how did I do this at eighteen? Like 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: the balls it took to just walk onto that campus 40 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: and be like, she's here. 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: Should have been queer, but she's here. 42 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: It's just it was like so many things were going 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: through my mind of like who would I have been 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: if I knew I was gay? Who would I have 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: been if I really knew my identity? Like what would 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: how would I've moved in the world. Like I was 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: just seeing like women walking around holding hands and like 48 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: it was just so different when I was there that 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: like gayness was not celebrated, and. 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: Gosh, that was like twenty years ago. 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: But it's just it's really wild to put myself back 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: into the eighteen year old version of me walking on 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: that campus not having a single clue of the magnitude 54 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: of what. 55 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: I was walking into. 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: I made sure to you when I was speaking to 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: a lot of the athletes that are currently in school, 58 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I spoke to them about the lessons that I learned 59 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: while I was there, and one of the greatest things 60 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: that I walked away with was soccer wasn't who I 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: was and wasn't my identity and how that connects to 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: everything is the single reason why I started this podcast 63 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: is because so much of our worth is tied into 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: what we do, yet it isn't who we are. And 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: it was important for me to let them know that 66 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: while they're chasing greatness and I want to be behind 67 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: that and be a part of that, that they don't 68 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: have to compromise who they are or give up the 69 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: things they love in life. That at you know, for 70 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: me at eighteen, felt like weakness, like I was on 71 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: a mission to be the best, the greatest, you know, 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: play for the US national team. 73 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: And win world titles. That I was jaded. 74 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, do the things and try the 75 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: things I wanted to do because I was a soccer 76 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: player and that was it. That was the sentence. And 77 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: I think there's just so much more to life. And 78 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I wish someone kind of shook me and was like, 79 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: go take this class, go to this business school, be 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: a part of this, try new things like be well rounded, 81 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: have an identity outside of sport. Like I wish I 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: could go back and open the blinders and see who 83 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: I could have become if I took more risk. Yeah, 84 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: so I went on, I've had a podcast with Pumps 85 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: and for Welsh and our episode won a glad Award 86 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: And how freaking cool is that? Like the glad Awards 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: just were popping off last week in LA and all 88 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I kept getting like all these text 89 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: messages from my. 90 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: Agent, from friends in the audience. 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: They were like, oh my god, your episode just won 92 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: a glad Award, Like how freaking cool. And it just 93 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: really shows the importance like yeah, it wasn't my podcast, 94 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: but showing up matters and speaking things into existence and 95 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: doing the work when nobody's fucking watching matters, and it 96 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: saves lives, and it just feels really good to sit 97 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: back and know like I'm working my ass off and 98 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying yes to everything sometimes before I'm even ready. 99 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: But it's just there's so much on the. 100 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: Other side of that that is really cool now to 101 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: see that it's working, like it's paying off, and it's 102 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: building this momentum in a landscape that's really hard for 103 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: the queer community right now, and continuing to show up 104 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: and fight back. 105 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: Really it really matters. 106 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So with that, everyone go check out that episode. 107 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I had Jennifer Welsh on Wide Open and it was 108 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: such a great episode and she's such a huge advocate 109 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: for the queer community and an ally, So make sure 110 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: everyone goes back and watches that episode on Wide Open. 111 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: And let's get into it. 112 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: We're interviewing Caroline Marx today, the legend, the young young legend, 113 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: world champion Olympic gold medal surfer, who I am so 114 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: excited to talk to today as I just I got 115 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: to watch the first Red Bull premiere of her new 116 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: film coming out here in the next month. 117 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, welcome. 118 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Caroline Marx, Hi everyone, and welcome back to Wide Open. 119 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Ashlyn Harris, and today is a special 120 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: one for me because my guest is someone who comes 121 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: from the exact same place that built me. Melbourne Beach, Florida, 122 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: a small stretch of coastline where the ocean just isn't 123 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: a part of the landscape, it's a part of who 124 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: you become. Caroline Marx grew up on the same sand, 125 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: surfing the same waves before school, competing alongside her brothers, 126 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: and building the kind of grit that only comes from 127 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: growing up on the water. What started as a local 128 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: kid chasing waves turned into something much bigger. Today Caroline 129 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: is an Olympic gold medalist, a world champion, and one 130 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: of the most dominant surfers on the planet. But her 131 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: story isn't just about winning. It's about family, perspective, resilient 132 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: and learning how to take care of yourself in a 133 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: sport that demands everything from you. We talk about growing 134 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: up in Melbourne Beach, her early love for barrel racing 135 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: and horses, the influence of her brothers, and the challenges 136 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: her family faced watching her leave at such an early age. 137 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: I know the experience has shaped her as a competitor 138 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: and who she is today, But we dive into what 139 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: it felt like to win an Olympic gold medal. 140 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: She was brave. 141 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: She made the hardest decision she ever had to by 142 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: stepping away and prioritizing her mental health, and how that 143 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: decision might be the very important thing that extends her career. 144 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: We also get into the new Red Bull film Nowadays, 145 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: where Caroline and her generation of women's surfers are redefining 146 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: what sport looks like in this new landscape. And of 147 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: course we talk about what's next, including the road to 148 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: La twenty twenty eight, where she'll be competing on waves 149 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: that we consider now as her local spot in California. 150 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: Caroline is proof that small towns can produce world champions, 151 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: and that strength isn't just built in the competition, it's 152 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: built in the moments that test you. 153 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: This is Caroline Marx and this is wide open. 154 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Welcome Caroline, Mark's hometown homie from Melbourne Beach. 155 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: Here, yo, let's go. 156 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: I am so happy to have you on the show today, 157 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: but I wanted you know, for those of you who 158 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: don't know who Caroline is, She's an insane surfer. She 159 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: has won the Olympics and the world title already. Yes, 160 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: at the only the gentle age of twenty four. 161 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: Lucky you, you have a whole entire. 162 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Career ahead of you to chase more championships, which I 163 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: can't wait to be your hype woman. 164 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: But tell me what it was like being. 165 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: Raised in our small, little, cute town, quaint little town 166 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: of Melbourne Beach. 167 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: Oh. I loved it. You know, Melbourne's just simple living, 168 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: Like there's like one Publix and like one grocery store. 169 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: I would like, it was so simple. I'd go to school, 170 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: i'd go serve, and I'd come home like that was 171 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: just my routine every single day. But yeah, I loved 172 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: growing up in Melbourne. It's it's such a cool little town. 173 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: Like i'd always see like my school teachers, Like my 174 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: whole neighborhood was in the water, just like everyone knew everyone. 175 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: And I love that. I love like the wholesome small 176 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: town vibes. Now, only in California, it kind of feels 177 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: like the Uptown Express in. 178 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: There to Florida, so it's so different. 179 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: So different, and I love them both for their for 180 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: their own reasons. But definitely now when I get back 181 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: to Melbourne, it like holds a special place in my heart. 182 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: Just so many like core like nostalgic memories growing up there. 183 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: I love that. 184 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: And what I you know, meeting your parents was it 185 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,239 Speaker 1: was so special. They're so humble and sweet and genuine. 186 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: And I will be on the next holiday car don't 187 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: you worry. I've already invited myself for dinner. But your 188 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: leg house was the spot you grew up. You had 189 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: there were six of you little monsters ripping around on 190 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: that little oh yeah, small. 191 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: Coast of a beach this big, but you said that, like. 192 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: Your house was the spot you'd have slipping slides and 193 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: like everyone was there and you were just always ripping 194 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: and surfing with your brother. Like, tell me about your 195 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: family and how like how much they've influenced your career 196 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: as a whole. 197 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we the Marx family was definitely like the gathering house. 198 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: Like coming home, there'd always be like more people at 199 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: the house, like even if they weren't a part of 200 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 3: the family, just like friends, neighbors, like whatever, it's like 201 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: we're going to the marks house. Like people would just 202 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: come over uninvited, which I love that, Like I love 203 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: the big family vibe like a lot of people And yeah, 204 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: we'd rent like the water slide. My parents rent like 205 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: the water slide every weekend and that was a lot 206 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: of fun. We'd like put baby oil on it and like, 207 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: go see, you can go down the fastest. I love this. 208 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: It was. It was a good time. But yeah, one 209 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: of six grew up riding horses. You know, my brothers 210 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: rode dirt bikes. We had like a little dirt bike 211 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: track in our backyard and that was like my version 212 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: of riding a dirt bike was riding a horse. I'd 213 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: ride in Fellsmere and then slowly after that, I kind 214 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: of was just like, oh, my brother thinks they think 215 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: like surfing is cool, and I got to like do 216 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: it they think it's cool in order for them to 217 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: think I'm cool, And that's like where the whole surfing 218 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: journey started. But yeah, I started off on a horse 219 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: and just loved animals. I wanted to be a venarian. 220 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: So I love how things have changed. 221 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's so true, right. 222 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: So I had an older brother too, and it was 223 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: so pivotal and so important to you know, who I 224 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: became later in life because I wanted to charge everything 225 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: my brother did. So if my brother was in the 226 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: water surfing, I was in the water and surf. I 227 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: was surfing if he was skating, like I was with 228 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: him skating. He played baseball, and I was like, I 229 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: want to play baseball. So I did everything. But the 230 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: important part is when you have an older brothers, like 231 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to get picked last, right. 232 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: You don't want to embarrass them. 233 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: You don't want them to be like, oh, you're too annoying, 234 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: Like you can't keep up. You can't, mom, go have 235 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: her play with the girls. I don't know, she can't 236 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: play with us. But like, I was such an asset 237 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: because I worked my ass off because I wanted to 238 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: be around my brother, and for me to be around 239 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: my brother, i'd be good enough. And I'm curious if 240 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: that drove you as well. Like, you know, surfing is 241 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: a really interesting sport where yeah, you could do party waves, 242 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: but really for you to do what you want to do, 243 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: one person gets that wave and it's stressful. 244 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: You better be good enough. 245 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: Don't take away from the lineup the other people wanting 246 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: to drop in, Like you can't be a kook. 247 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: It's so possessive. Certain people's breaks are like you don't 248 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: want to mess around with locals. 249 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Stay tuned I'll be back in just a moment after 250 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: this brief message from our sponsors. So what was that 251 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: like with your brothers and your competitive spirit. You're you know, 252 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: competitive fire in your grit, Like I imagine that's what 253 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: helped you in competition. Is like, if I could survive 254 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: the all of these kids, you know, coming at me 255 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: left and right, I have all these siblings, Jesus, I 256 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: could do this. 257 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like definitely growing up with a lot of brothers, 258 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: as you know, it's I have very thick skin, which 259 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: definitely helped me competing, especially like my first couple of 260 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: years on tour. You know, you kind of like get 261 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: more attention, like people want to like come up Instagram 262 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: stuff that you might not want to hear. And I 263 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: was just like not that face because I was like, 264 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: I've heard everything from my brothers and I am not 265 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: worried about some random person say it's open, you know. 266 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely like had that fire of just wanting 267 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: to be better than them and just like wanting to 268 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: be good enough, you know, just kind of like wanting 269 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: them to accept me. And it was really hard to 270 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: kind of get their credit of things like I do 271 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: something really special, them be like that was a good turn, 272 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, so it really really pushed me, 273 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: and I'm grateful for it now because like in the moment, 274 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: I was like, you guys are so mean whatever, but 275 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: now I'm like, oh, you guys made me into like 276 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: such a savage competitor, and I'm grateful for it now. 277 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: Well, I yeah, like as you know, the important I 278 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: say this all the time, like because you know you've 279 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: met Sophia and she's such a theater baby. 280 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: Like through and through, my queen is a theater baby. 281 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: And I'm just like I grew up in a locker room, right, 282 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: so I keep the door open, I change in front 283 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: of people. 284 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: Like I personal space. I'm like, huh yeah. 285 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: But also it's like you got to take care of 286 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: your shit, right because you had all these roommates and 287 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: like you had your locker and like you don't leave 288 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: your shit out. I don't want to see your shit 289 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: all over the locker room or on the floor, Like 290 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: take care of our space. But you learn that in 291 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: your house, and it is important because your sport is 292 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: just you and mother nature. 293 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: That's it. 294 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: So I imagine there's so much in a team and that 295 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: collective that helped you so much when you were out 296 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: in that water alone. Because I tell you what, every 297 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: time I'm out there surfing, I have to dangle my 298 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: feet in the water. I'm like, I don't know what's 299 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: under every time something touched me. 300 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: I was like a cat. 301 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Literally I could fall off my board and get back 302 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: on it faster than anyone on this planet. 303 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: And I was like a rat. 304 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: Like my hair was in my face, my top was 305 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: probably to the side. But I tell you what, I 306 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: was in that water minimal seconds. Because we know in 307 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: Florida we are the shark capital of the world. 308 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,119 Speaker 2: They're all under. 309 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Me and beside me, and I'm just like, you know, 310 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: it's a really like a mind fuck out there alone. 311 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine, like you had to have some 312 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: like smart stuff going on up here not to be 313 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: like I'm getting the fuck out of here. 314 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for sure, Like I think growing up 315 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: in a big family, like it was never really about me, 316 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: Like it kind of always kept me grounded and humble, 317 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: and you know, like I was saying before, like I 318 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: go home and like you know, I'm still like doing 319 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: the dishes and doing laundry, Like it's never like, oh, 320 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: Caroline's home, like let's make it like no, it's just 321 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: like I'm just another sibling. And I'm really thankful for 322 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: that because the ocean is the great equalizer. It's it's 323 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 3: very humbling, like there could be sharks out there. You 324 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: can be the best surf in the world and a 325 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: wave doesn't come when you lose to someone, Like it's 326 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: just anything can happen, you know. And I feel like 327 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: being raised how I was, combined with my brothers being 328 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of constructive criticism and making me 329 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: like a savage and tap thick skin, like that combination 330 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: I think really helps me in the water. And I 331 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 3: didn't realize that when I was younger, but now looking back, 332 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, like how your race is so important 333 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: of how you are, you know, in the world later on. 334 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: So I'm really grateful for my family because like they 335 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: definitely shape me to be the person I am today. 336 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm super thankful for that. But I do 337 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: understand the sharks. It is pretty scary, like no matter what, 338 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 3: Like I am fearless with that, but like it's scary, 339 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: like you know, it's at the end of the day, 340 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: like we're in their environment, so like you know, it's yeah. 341 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: And I imagine that's why you loved riding horses, Like 342 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, I like at someone who just started riding 343 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: a horse a year ago. I got on that thing, 344 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: and like they were telling me all these demands and 345 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: things to say to it, and like they were like 346 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: kick it here, and I'm like, I'm not kicking this 347 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: fucking thing at all. 348 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: You're nuts going on. That thing is gonna flip me off. 349 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: And then it kept like trying to. 350 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: Eat and I was almost flying over its head, and 351 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is really I'm just I'm 352 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: in I'm not. 353 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: In control here. This thing is in control. 354 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to hope for the best and hopefully it 355 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: doesn't kick me off or I don't. 356 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: I just didn't say anything and I just gave it. 357 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just giving up responsibility here. Let 358 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: let's hope for the best. 359 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: But it is really something interesting the parallel of riding 360 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: the board in the water alone and riding a horse, 361 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: like growing up and raised, being raised like in that 362 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: type of environment, they're very similar when you compare them. 363 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah, like just the not being able to 364 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: control it aspect, Like like you said, you're on an animal, 365 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: like you know, you can't control it. You can kick it, 366 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 3: you can, but at the end of the day, like 367 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: it's going to do what it do it wants. And 368 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: that's the same thing about the ocean. You can prepare 369 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: the hardest and you know, do all the right things 370 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: and ride the right board and have a perfect plan 371 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: with your coach, but the ocean's going to do what 372 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: it wants, and you just have to be really good 373 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: at going with the flow. And I feel like a 374 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: lot of surfers are very good at going with the 375 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: flow because we just like have no choice. That's also 376 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: good in life too, because a lot of things in 377 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: life are out of your control. So I feel like 378 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: surfings like it's it's been great because it's brought me like, 379 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: it's taught me a lot of life lessons. It's also 380 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: giving me some of my best friends from traveling around 381 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 3: the world. It's showed me places around the world to 382 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: be like, wow, I'm very lucky to live where I do. 383 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: Like things like that has been awesome. So there are 384 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 3: a lot more parallels in surfing and horseback riding than 385 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: like I was, like, I didn't like never thought of it. 386 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: Like that. But I'm like, that's so true, Like you know, 387 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: it's it was pretty easy transition in that sense because 388 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: you are writing something and a lot of things are 389 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 3: out of your control. So those two things are very similar. 390 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: I like, I just I respect so much of what 391 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: you do and watching you know. I know later in 392 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: the show we'll talk about the new film that's coming 393 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: out nowadays. But seeing you guys surf Tahiti and seeing 394 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: so there there was a picture of you that was 395 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be it was a surprise. Clearly you didn't 396 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: know that it was taken. When I tell you how 397 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: thick this wave was and the barrel you are in, 398 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Like what people don't know is like you have to 399 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: train to like hold yourself underwater for minutes out of time, 400 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: because it's like being the inside of a washing machine. 401 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: Like if you don't get something right, it is very dangerous. 402 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: And that is one thing. 403 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Like people don't understand the magnitude of shape, like you're 404 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: chasing that kind of extreme you know. At the beginning 405 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: of the show, I was asked a question about like 406 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: who's an athlete we should really keep our eye on, 407 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: And I you know, I say, and I'm not surprised 408 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: by this, I said Lindsay Vaughn, who's also a red 409 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Bull athlete. What's so interesting about you guys who live 410 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: the brand and live this experience is. 411 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: You are not living on the edge. You are the edge. 412 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 2: You are pushing. 413 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: Boundaries and things that were never expect did of you. 414 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: And that is literally the epitome of what a red 415 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: Bull athlete is. 416 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: And I don't. 417 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: Think people understand the magnitude of surfing when you're putting 418 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: yourself on waves that look like that, that have the 419 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: potential to really crush you, hold you under. Your pipeline 420 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: is like three feet deep on a good day, on 421 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: a good day with like coral reef popping out, Like 422 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: do you understand? Like what people when they watch you 423 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: make it look so pretty and y'all are just doing 424 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: things and we're like, oh my god, no, no, no, 425 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: Like you are living the edge and on the other 426 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: side of that is this type of progression you're pushing for, 427 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: the type of progression that we're all dying to see 428 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: that we didn't think was capable and you're living it. 429 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: How fucking cool is that? Like, I'm so envious. I 430 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: want to be in your body. I want to live 431 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: your life because you know it took. You know, think 432 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: about Blue Rush, right, so it took. Blue Crush was 433 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: a Hollywood movie based on an action film of surfers. 434 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: They were you know, green screens and shit was terrible 435 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: back in the day. They were actually having men surf 436 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: and then just like throwing women's faces on pipeline. And 437 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: the whole premise of Blue Crush was women ripping out 438 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: pipeline and how dangerous it was. Well fast forward, that 439 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: just became a reality a few years ago. That movie 440 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: took twenty years to actually happen, and you're living that 441 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: and that is special, and that is the importance of 442 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: these type of films and the importance of you charging 443 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: what you charge every day to show what's possible. Because 444 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: now all those little girls at this premiere watching you 445 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: rip fucking Tahiti and pipeline and all these things and 446 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: these no one should be surfing these waves, let alone 447 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: women like you're doing that and you're showing what is possible. 448 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: You're giving permission to other people, for other people to 449 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: chase that edge. 450 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: That's my rant, girl. You're living in a moment. 451 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and that's like part of the reason why 452 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: the film is called like Nowadays because we're like, this 453 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: is what happened, this is what's happening like now. And 454 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: like I said before, like my timing was just good, 455 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: like I got on the tourist second year is equal pay. 456 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: You know, women are surfing pipeline like surfings in the Olympics. 457 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: I know, golf lop for equal pay. That's so cool. 458 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: We love that. 459 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: I fought many many years in court for that for 460 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: US soccer, So I understand the importance of that. 461 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, like we just have to thank 462 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 3: all of our generations before us for like paving that 463 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: way for us, because you know, all the girls in 464 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: the generation now that are in this film, like we 465 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: just had great timing, and that wouldn't have been possible 466 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 3: if the women before us didn't fight for that. And 467 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: I think now it is our responsibility to like make 468 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: the next like the next generations feature even brighter than 469 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 3: it was for us, you know, put stride for more, 470 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: like push for more progression and do things on boards 471 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: that we didn't they didn't think was possible. Because if 472 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: they see us do it, they're going to like be like, oh, 473 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: that's possible. How can I be better than that. That's 474 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: just like naturally how things work. So the film is 475 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: really cool because it really highlights like it is a 476 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: surf film, but it also tells a story which is 477 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: really cool. And yeah, seeing like some of the young 478 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 3: girls like just be like, oh my gosh, it's the 479 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: coolest thing I've ever seen. Like seeing that on their faces. 480 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: It makes the whole like hours of you know, putting 481 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: work into this film, in years of working on this film, 482 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: it's uh, it makes it all worth it. So it's 483 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: really cool. 484 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: I love that. 485 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: Tell me about the Olympic gold medal you won and 486 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: the impact that had for you, because what's so unique 487 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: in surfing is it is an individual sport and you're 488 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: not like representing your team and your country all the time. 489 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: You're representing yourself and you're touring all over the world, 490 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: and you know, for surfing in the Olympics, it's so 491 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: new and how cool is it You talk about the 492 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: importance of being somewhere at the right time, Like you 493 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: were at the right time and you capitalized off of 494 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: it and you won Olympic gold in Paris, Tahiti. Tell 495 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: me about how that changed everything for you and did 496 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 1: you understand the magnitude of which you were living in 497 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: that moment. 498 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: And no, I don't think I like fully understood it. 499 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: Like like that emoji that's just like like mind blown, 500 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: Like that was literally me in that moment. I was 501 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: just like, oh my gosh. And you know how it is, 502 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: like it's like years and years and years of that moment, 503 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: because that moment really is it's it's quick. It's like 504 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: but since I was like, you know, twelve years old 505 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: up until that moment, like that, all that that was 506 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: like working into that moment. Yeah, it's hard to like 507 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: articulate the words and how that felt. But first off, 508 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: I was just really proud of surfing being in the Olympics, 509 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: Like I believe we deserve that recognition, which is really 510 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: cool we're getting that, and like I think the best 511 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: part was just like having my family there and what 512 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: makes our journey so special to share it with people 513 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: you love. So the first Olympics in Tokyo, you know, 514 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: is during a pandemic, so like couldn't have any family 515 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: and friends there, so to have you know, I also 516 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: got fourth at that Olympics, So that was like a 517 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: really tough pill to swallow because that's like one spot 518 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 3: they say. Some people say it's like probably the hardest 519 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: position place to finish in because you are so close 520 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 3: to meddling, but you like don't quite get there. So 521 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: winning in Paris and having my family there, like it 522 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: just made that moment so much sweeter. And yeah, getting 523 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: the medal and then stinging the national anthem, I was 524 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 3: just like started bawling, Like I'm pretty emotional, you know, 525 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: but this was like, oh my goodness, this is the 526 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: craziest moment ever. But yeah, definitely the proudest moment of 527 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: my career and something I'll never forget. Like I had 528 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: like a proper month of like, oh my gosh, I 529 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: like I can't believe that happened. But I can't believe 530 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 3: that happened, you know what I mean. Like I believed 531 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 3: in myself that I can get there, because like you 532 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 3: can't not believe in yourself to get there. But like 533 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: I also was like, oh my gosh, it happen, like 534 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: and it brought me like, you know, not everyone knows 535 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: about surfing, but everyone knows about the Olympics, and so 536 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: like I feel like the attention I got from the 537 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 3: Olympic medal is something that I've never experienced, and I 538 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 3: was like, whoa, this is pretty crazy. I'm still just 539 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: like the same girl that grew up in Florida that 540 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: like had a bunch of brothers and like, you know, 541 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: I have the same friends and like I still get happiest, 542 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: so get sad whatever. Like I'm still the same person. 543 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: But it definitely brought a different level attention to me 544 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: that I've never experienced before, which is pretty cool. But 545 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned that because in surfing, like everything 546 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: is so young. I mean as an athlete, like everything's 547 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: young if you almost have like a reverse career, like 548 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: you start when you're young and you finish when you're young, 549 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: you know, like most people. But getting on at fifteen, 550 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: like I'm going to my eighth year on tour, Like 551 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: people were like call me a veteran when I was 552 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: like twenty, and I was like, wait, like what do 553 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: you mean, Like I'm just getting started, you know, and 554 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: so like it used to piss me off, and I'd 555 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: be like, can everyone just like stop call me old 556 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: on the tour Like literally I'm literally twenty, you know, 557 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: But I've learned to take it as a compliment, you know, 558 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: Like it's been. It's cool because you're experienced, and it's true. 559 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: I did get on very young, but I almost qualified 560 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: like in my own generation. Like I wasn't quite the 561 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: generation of Chrissa and you know, Tyler Wright and Laky 562 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: and all these girls, but you know, Mollie and Katie, 563 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: like they're more of my generation. But like we qualified 564 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: at very different times. So it almost feels like I 565 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: was in my own little generation. So I see where 566 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: people say that, you know, but I don't know. I'm 567 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: really proud of my journey and I'm just like whatever 568 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: people want to say, like whatever, because I'm proud it 569 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: veteran young buck, whatever it is. Yeah. 570 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: But also the thing I respect so much about you 571 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: is like, you know, all this success is going on, 572 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: and one thing is really important, And I want to 573 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: touch on this because there are a lot of people 574 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: who listen. There are a lot of athletes who listen, 575 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: and it's very easy as an athlete to abandon yourself. 576 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: Do you just move, move, move. Everything is moving so quickly. 577 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: You have you you know, you've got to do this 578 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: and you've got to get points, and you've got to 579 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: get on the tour, and you've got to you know, 580 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: it's just a. 581 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it never stops. You're always like right. 582 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: But one thing I wrote respect about you is you 583 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: took time away for yourself, for your own mental health, 584 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: for your own. 585 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: Like self. You needed that for yourself. 586 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: And it's important to say this because you talk about longevity, 587 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: you talk about the of the world who are winning 588 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: titles in their forties. It's because they prioritize themselves and 589 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: they don't abandon it. And you know, it's not that 590 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: I want you to talk about all the different things, 591 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: but I have to talk about the importance of really 592 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: knowing yourself enough and being brave enough to say I 593 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: got to put a pause here, I got to put 594 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: I have boundaries. And I don't think athletes do that 595 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: because they think that's failure. 596 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: And sure, and yeah, as you know, as like an athlete, 597 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: like you're kind of looked at as like they you think, 598 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: like when you're vulnerable, it can be like such a 599 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: weakness and as an athlete, like weaknesses is like it's 600 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: no like I'm hard, I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna beat you, 601 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: like it's just tough thing. And that's kind of what 602 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: I thought too, Like I was it was really scary 603 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: to take time away because all I've ever known is 604 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: surfing and being on the tour and I literally grew 605 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: up on the tour, and so to take that step 606 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: away it was like super scary. And there was moments 607 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 3: where I thought like, oh, I don't know if I'm 608 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 3: ever going to get back to that like brothing grom 609 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: that I once was, you know that just wants to 610 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: serve because that's what got me here at this point 611 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: of of you know, getting on the tour and being 612 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 3: successful at a young age. I definitely really leaned on 613 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 3: my family and my support crew at that time, and 614 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm really thankful because I got such a great one. 615 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: I call them I feel good people. Yes, And I 616 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: was just kind of going, like what do I do? 617 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: I knew I just didn't feel like myself. I knew 618 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't having that much fun we talked about before 619 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: of having an even killed mindset. I was so hard 620 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: on myself, Like the highs were high, the lows were low. 621 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: I think that is the one thing about you know, 622 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: having success so early on, like I all of a 623 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: sudden put this crazy amount of like unrealistic pressure on 624 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: myself of like, oh if I don't get better than this, 625 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: then I'm a complete failure, which is like so crazy, 626 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: But I know a lot of people can relate to that, 627 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 3: or a lot of athletes. As hard as it was, like, 628 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful that happened because it made me have 629 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: a whole new perspective on life, and the best things 630 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: in my career happened after, like I took time off 631 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: and won the world title the next year and the 632 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: gold medal. Like it's crazy to look back on because 633 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 3: in the moment, like if you told me that was 634 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: going to happen, I'd be like, no way, You're so 635 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: down in the dumps. But yeah, I think it really 636 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: helped me in my career, And I kept reminding myself 637 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: it's not a sprints of marathon, Like you're so young, 638 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: Like just what's one year when you have your whole 639 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: life and career? How do you get like this could 640 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: save you? And looking back, it really did. 641 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I'll be back in just a moment. After 642 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: this brief message from our sponsors at the top of 643 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: the show, I spoke about this, but I went back 644 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: to where I went to school at the University of 645 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: North Carolina, and I gave a keynote speech, and the 646 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: whole point of the speech is you were so much 647 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: more than what you do. And the whole premise of 648 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 1: this podcast, Wide Open is who you are, you know, 649 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: before the titles and before the success, like there's everyone 650 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: has lived journey to get them where they are. And 651 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: with that, like I had to express to these young 652 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: kids that your identity is not wrapped up in national 653 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: championships or the highlight reels or all these things. You 654 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: think at such an early age and you were a kid, 655 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: so taking that time away, what did it teach you 656 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: about yourself? 657 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 2: First and foremost? 658 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like you said, like I am a 659 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: human with feel like I still put on my shoes 660 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: the same way as everyone, and like you know, like 661 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: I get happy, I get sad, like you know, I 662 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 3: miss my family when I'm gone. Like it's I'm totally 663 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: a normal person. I just obviously live a very unique life. 664 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: But you know, I just feel like I always told 665 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 3: myself like if I wasn't having fun and I wasn't 666 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: like enjoying it, and like what's the point. And I 667 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 3: really got to that point where I was just like 668 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 3: you know, like my parents always taught me like it, 669 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: do what you love, you know, and go hard at it. 670 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 3: And I wasn't really like enjoying where I was at. 671 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: And that's like also like, Okay, it's not always going 672 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 3: to be perfect and amazing. I'm sure you had times 673 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 3: in your career where were like dreading dreading it sometimes 674 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 3: you're like, oh man, I'm tired or I miss my 675 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: family or whatever. But yeah, I think I think it 676 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 3: just taught me like vulnerability is very powerful and it's 677 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 3: okay not to be okay sometimes, and it's also okay 678 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: to work on yourself, like you don't have to be 679 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 3: this like perfect image person all the time. Like it's 680 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: totally okay to like you're like, hey, I need a 681 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 3: minute and say no because I'm I'm a people pleaser. 682 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 3: It's my personality and you know, it's a great quality, 683 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: but it also leaves you drain sometimes. So I think 684 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: learning how to say no and being like I need 685 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: time for me, that's really what it taught me. 686 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: I love that, and I appreciate that vulnerability, and I 687 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you sharing that because women are taught at a 688 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: very early age to serve other people. That is our job, 689 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: Like we are taught very early to care for other things. 690 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: We're given a doll before we can even say the 691 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: damn word, and we're brushing its hair and we're changing. 692 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 2: Its clothes, and it's just enough enough. 693 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: Because I have to put my life mask on first 694 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: before I put anyone else's on. And I think it's 695 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: a really brave thing to do to just say, like, 696 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: it needs to be about me right now. If I 697 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: want to be the version I know I'm capable of being, 698 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: I have to take a step back. And a lot 699 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: of women abandon themselves when they feel that, and they 700 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: just keep plugging on. And there's just so much value 701 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you talking about it and having the 702 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: bravery and courage to just say not today, I'm gonna 703 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: take care of myself, and look what happened, Look what 704 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: has happened. 705 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 2: It shows that, like I'm. 706 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: Going to fill my cup up first for sure, and 707 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: then when I can fill my cup up, I'm a 708 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: great person. I'm a great daughter, I'm a great sister, 709 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm a great partner. And it affects and bleeds into 710 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: everything you're doing exact. 711 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: Exactly, and like you know how like when your personal 712 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: life for your own mental health is out of whack, 713 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: like everything else is going to be out of whack, 714 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: of course, you know what I mean. And like that's 715 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 3: something I've really learned, is like you know, when things 716 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 3: at home or like I'm not feeling good, Like it's 717 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: so hard to feel good in the water and performing 718 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 3: and sometimes you have to like mask it. But it's 719 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: like I was at a point where I was like, 720 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 3: I really need to take time for me and yeah, 721 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: it's crazy, look what's happened here. Sure I'm like, well 722 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: I'm not. I did that. 723 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm happy you did too, And and you know, after 724 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: all of this success, and I just was lucky enough 725 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: for everyone listening. I was lucky enough to be a 726 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: part of this new film nowadays that Red Bull put together. 727 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: But you asked and you pushed, and you are the 728 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: one who said I want to do this, but most importantly, 729 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: I want to bring everyone along with me and it 730 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: not just be about myself. 731 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: And I said this to you, and I mean it. 732 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: You are very very special human at your age to 733 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: understand there is plenty of room for other women at 734 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: this table. I am not going to be the ones 735 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: standing on their necks like I want to stand on 736 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: the shoulders of all the women who've come before me, 737 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: who have given me access and I have the freedom 738 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: to compete at this level, and you brought all these 739 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: other young athletes along with you. This film took two 740 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: and a half years, and I want you to talk 741 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: about it because it is your and you pushed for it, 742 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: and this hasn't happened since, and I would say ever 743 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: as a collective unit surf a video film that really 744 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: incorporates some of the youngest, most talented surfers this world 745 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: has ever seen. And you brought your fiercest competitors and 746 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: you were like, let's go and do this together. That 747 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: is fucking rad. And it takes a special human not 748 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: to be like, no, no, no, I've worked my ass 749 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: off to get here. 750 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: This is gonna be about me, Like most women do 751 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: that for. 752 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 3: Sure, and like, well, thank you. I appreciate that. And 753 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 3: I definitely like did struggle, Like I'm gonna be honest, 754 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 3: Like I definitely had moments where I was like, well, 755 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: I could make this about myself and I know it'll 756 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 3: be cool, and I have worked my butt off, but 757 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 3: like I just feel, like like you said before, like 758 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 3: the generations before us like really paved the way like surfing. 759 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: Now it's in the Olympics, Like we're getting equal pay 760 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: for both men and women, Like are you kidding me? 761 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 3: Like it's it's been my absolutely, yes, that's about time today. 762 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like my timing has been 763 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 3: really good, Like I got on tour, my second year 764 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: on tour is equal pay, like I'm then the next 765 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 3: then they announced the Olympics, Like my timing's just been 766 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 3: really good, Like I didn't do any of that. Those 767 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 3: are the generations before me, and I just they paved 768 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: that way for us. And I feel like it's our 769 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 3: responsibility in this generation and just keep building the sport. 770 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 3: And if I can like walk away and say that 771 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: I worked as absolutely as hard as I could, I 772 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 3: accomplish things I wanted to and I and I, you know, 773 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 3: paved the way for the next generation. Like I'm so 774 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 3: proud of that. And I just feel like at some point, 775 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: you know, like you said, women's stepping on each other's next, 776 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 3: especially in an individual sport like it, it comes with 777 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 3: the territory. It's so cutthroat, it's it's gnarly. You don't 778 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 3: have any friends, that there's lonely at the top. But 779 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 3: I was kind of like someone's got to do it. 780 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 3: And I feel like I was at a point my 781 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: career where I feel like I've gotten a lot more 782 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 3: secure in myself, like I think a few years ago, 783 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 3: like growing up, when you're younger, you're just like you 784 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 3: don't even want to look at anyone. You're just like, 785 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 3: I want to win. I want to talk to anyone, 786 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: to give anyone an inch. And I've learned, like, you 787 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: know what, there is room for other people at the top, 788 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 3: and I also can still win, Like there's just there's 789 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: room at the top. And yeah, it took me a 790 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 3: minute to get there. But now that the film's done 791 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 3: and I see how it like impacted a lot of 792 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 3: young girls. You know, we've premiered it twice, like you said, 793 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 3: in New York and Hollywood. I can't wait for the 794 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: world to see it. But I just seeing all the 795 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: little girls that's impacted already that came to the premieres 796 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: has just been the coolest thing ever and it made 797 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 3: it all worth it. And obviously having Red Bull behind it, 798 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 3: like planning everything, like because you know, sturfing's so interesting, 799 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: like you're going all around the world and like it's 800 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 3: very unstructured. You don't know if you're gonna get waves 801 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: or not, and everyone's got a crazy schedule. Yeah, I'm 802 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: really proud of it. And as I was doing the film, 803 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: you know, I I like, that's when I won the 804 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 3: world title in the gold medal, and it's just it's 805 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 3: crazy how it all happened, you know. I feel like 806 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 3: it all happened the way it was supposed to. And 807 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 3: it's been really fun. It's been a lot of work, 808 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: but it's been really fun. 809 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: I love that. 810 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: Well, for those of you know, the people tuning in 811 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: and listening, can you tell them what Nowadays is about 812 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: and who's in it and when it is premiering for 813 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: everyone to see, because it's a must like it's it's 814 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: been awesome, Like I loved every part of that film. 815 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, talk about the athletes in it, talk about 816 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: when it premieres so everyone can go. 817 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 2: Check it out. 818 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. So Nowadays is a surf film of all the 819 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 3: best female surfers in this generation. Red Bull got behind 820 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 3: this film. It just so happened to be like all 821 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 3: the best girls are on Red Bull, which is really cool. 822 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: Of course of course they are. 823 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: Again, I'm not wearing the hat Cavia on us War 824 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: the biggest woman for red bull athletes. 825 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 2: Like it's different. 826 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 3: Love that no good on But yeah, everyone in the 827 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 3: film is twenty four or younger. Three of us have 828 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 3: already been the Olympics, but six of us are all 829 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 3: Olympic hopefuls. We got Caitlin Simmers who's from the USA, 830 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 3: myself in the USA, Molly Picklam from Australia, Sky Brown 831 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 3: from the UK, and Aaron Brooks from Canada. So it's 832 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 3: a very diverse group. Four of us are all convening 833 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: against each other on the world tour as well. Crazy, 834 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 3: so we're all each other's like biggest rite. Like for example, 835 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 3: like the first I won the world title, the first year, 836 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 3: the second year, Katie won the world title, the third 837 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 3: year Molly won the world title. So like we all 838 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 3: are just like like at each other's next. Yeah, like 839 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 3: full on, Like it's it's pretty funny. So for a 840 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 3: film to happen in a cutthroat sport like this with 841 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 3: all of us, like I mean, we're all still going 842 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: into the peak of our career, like we're all under 843 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 3: twenty five, Like we still like have so much more 844 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: to accomplish. It's very very rare and it's never been 845 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 3: done before. It also tells a story of women pushing 846 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 3: women and I love that. Yeah, and that's really cool 847 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: and it does it's obviously a lot of surfing is 848 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 3: a surf film, but it also does tell a story 849 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 3: and premieres May first and all the Red Bull channels, 850 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 3: So I'm really excited about it. I hope everyone loves it. Yeah, 851 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 3: it's it was. It turned out amazing better than I 852 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 3: ever expected. So all the all the traveling and the 853 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 3: boat rides and getting nauseous and indo. 854 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: Whatever, you guys went, y'all went everywhere where, didn't. 855 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, And like that's the funny thing, Like surfing 856 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: will bring you in like the craziest places ever. You know, 857 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 3: sometimes you're in Fiji and it's like, you know, it's 858 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 3: very lush and beautiful. And then sometimes you're in you know, 859 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 3: a country that you're like sleeping on a board bike. 860 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just how it is. 861 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: So you're chasing, You're chasing mother nature, Like how cool 862 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: is that? 863 00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 3: Like? 864 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: And you know, you know what else you're chasing La 865 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, a bay right around the corridor, right around 866 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: the corner, like do you what are you clearly the 867 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: obvious it's at home and this is like I mean 868 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: I would can I know it's not your home break, but. 869 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: It's your home break. What what? 870 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 3: Like? 871 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: What does that feel like? 872 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: We're in twenty twenty six time moves, It's going to 873 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: be here before you know it. Not giving you any stress, 874 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: but like, how stoked are you right now to have this? 875 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, because you were you weren't in Paris. Hello 876 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: for everyone who doesn't know, no one's surfing in Paris. 877 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: You guys were in Tahiti, so you didn't get that 878 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: feel right. 879 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: So like the Olympic Village and every brand has these 880 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 1: houses that are like popped up. I mean it's manic wild, 881 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: like Truman Show like village. It's so cool and you're 882 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: gonna get to experience that finally, like at the same place. 883 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 2: Like, are you so excited? 884 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 3: I would be yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's been 885 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 3: a lot of hype up, like even with the Winter 886 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 3: Olympics just happening, Like there's been a lot of talk 887 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 3: about it. I've already done a couple of shoots for it. 888 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, it's like a couple of years out, 889 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: like people are excited about it and surfing. Like you said, 890 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 3: it was in Tahaiti this year, which was a great 891 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: time zone for America, which was really cool. It got 892 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 3: so much attention, which was pretty awesome, and I feel 893 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 3: like that's what our sport deserves, is that recognition. So 894 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 3: I'm really proud about that. Oh my god, I'm like 895 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 3: the fact that I can like sleep my own bed 896 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 3: and go compete for a medal is like so bad. 897 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 3: It's crazy. And now that I've been to the like 898 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 3: when I first qualified, I was so oblivious to how 899 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 3: amazing it was. Like I just I didn't realize the 900 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 3: magnitude that the Olympics had on the world. You know, 901 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 3: it's one of the only things that brings the whole 902 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 3: world together. And it's like a lot of people might 903 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 3: not know about surfing, but they know about the Olympics, 904 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: and so it's, yeah, it's it's pretty incredible. I'm really excited, 905 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 3: Like I don't know, it's pretty mind blowing. Like I 906 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 3: was literally surfing this morning at the venue they're going 907 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 3: to have it at, and I was just like, oh 908 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 3: my gosh, Like that's crazy and it's funny. It's such 909 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 3: a full circle moment, because that's like at that wave 910 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 3: lower Trustles, that's like where I knew I wanted to 911 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 3: be a pro surfer. Like I competed at a amateur 912 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 3: event and I ended up winning, and I was like, 913 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 3: this is so fun, Like I just want to keep 914 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 3: doing this. I got a big trophy and I surfed 915 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 3: all day up my friends like, are you kidding me? 916 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm excited. 917 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 2: I love this for you. 918 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to be there clearly, you know, absolutely part 919 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,439 Speaker 1: of the family on the holiday card. 920 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 2: Hello, but I cannot wait to watch you. 921 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: This is going to be so fun, Like the excitement 922 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: I feel for all of you because I've been there, 923 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: and I know you have been there, but this is 924 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: going to be a completely different experience, and you're going 925 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: to have the wisdom and you've gone through the expectation 926 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: and like I just I'm so, so so excited for you. 927 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 2: This is going to be such a cool moment. 928 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: Your whole family is going to be there, Like the 929 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: people who you know sacrifice the most from the beginning 930 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: to be able to have that full circle moment at 931 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: such a young age in your prime no matter what, 932 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 1: It's really not about winning and losing, even though we're 933 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 1: winners at our core and we always want to win, 934 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: but like to have your family there to experience that 935 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: experience that type of magnitude with you on like your 936 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: home like grounds and in the water is really magical 937 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: and it's not so amazing. 938 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, it's huge, and like I can like I'm 939 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 3: never gonna be able to give back my parents and 940 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 3: my siblings like ever, like for what they've sacrificed in 941 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 3: order to get me where I'm at, But I feel 942 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 3: like experiences like that, like you know, looking them in 943 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 3: the eye after like moments like that, you know, or 944 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 3: winning the medal Intaheni, I'm like, all right, like it's 945 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 3: all worth it, you know, Like it's pretty cool. So yeah, 946 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 3: I'm I'm super excited. It's good stuff. 947 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm excited for you. 948 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: But I always ask this, and this is the last question. 949 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to wrap everything up. And I love I 950 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 1: love asking athletes this because you are so much bigger 951 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: than your sport and what you do. But who are 952 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: you and what are you doing when you're not competing? 953 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm pretty simple, Like I love to like I 954 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 4: love like looking at the sunset and like you know, 955 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 4: hanging out with my friends, like just watching a good show, 956 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 4: Like I'm a really simple I feel like I'm a 957 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 4: really simple girl, even though I live a. 958 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 3: Very crazy life. 959 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 960 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 3: And yeah, I love hanging out with my family. I'm 961 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 3: a I'm a people person, like I love my people, 962 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 3: So like hanging out with my people when I'm not 963 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 3: surfing and competing, like filling my cup in other areas, 964 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 3: That's what I want to be doing. 965 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 2: I love that for you. 966 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for being on this episode, Caroline. 967 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: I know you don't need this, but I'm behind you 968 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: and wishing you the best of luck, not only for 969 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: the clearly the you Know La twenty eight, but also 970 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: just like you're on you Know tour. You guys are 971 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: chasing championships all over the place, and I root for you, 972 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: and I gotta be honest, I root for you because 973 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 1: of how you show up. Like everyone knows you're fucking 974 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: dancing on water, and you're an incredible athlete and you're 975 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: powerful and you're so enjoyable to watch, and you y'all 976 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: are doing shit. I during my era, I'm like, women 977 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: did not do this. Women were not doing backflips on 978 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: a damn surfboard. 979 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 2: It didn't happen if you if. 980 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: You were like accidentally got a few fins, you know, 981 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: out of the water, You're like, oh, she just threw 982 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 1: an arrow. 983 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 2: Look at that. It was like all about timing. It 984 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 2: was like actually just breaking in perfect time. 985 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 3: You hit like a backlash. 986 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 987 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: But like you guys are pushing like so hard and 988 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: creating such a different landscape for this new generation. I 989 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: say this like fully with my chest as someone now 990 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: who is getting back into surfing and skating, it is 991 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: going to be the most watched thing is surf and skate, 992 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: and it will be women. 993 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 2: I am telling you that right now. 994 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: I love that it's the biggest up and coming thing 995 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: because women are doing shit that took like Tony. 996 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 5: Hawk, Yeah exactly, you know what I mean, Like thirteen 997 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,760 Speaker 5: year olds are throwing like nine hundreds in their sleep, 998 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 5: And Tony Hawk was like, yeah I did that at 999 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,720 Speaker 5: like thirty. 1000 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, she's thirteen. 1001 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,239 Speaker 1: So it's just y'all are ripping and setting a new 1002 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: standard that I'm like, good luck to y'all young people. 1003 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, you saw me out there on 1004 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 2: that phone board. I was like, it's it's. 1005 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 3: Hey, she was killing it. She was killing it. She's 1006 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 3: selling her She's humble, but she was killing it. I 1007 00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: do an athlete. 1008 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 2: I will wrap it up to say this. 1009 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: At the premiere, I was like, Hi, my name's Ashlyn Harris. 1010 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 1: I went to the surf ranch and I got Wave 1011 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: of the Day. 1012 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 2: That is on my resume. I need my own hat. 1013 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 2: I don't need Red Bull. 1014 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: I need surf Ranch Wave of the Day because that 1015 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: is all. 1016 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 2: I want to be known for. But I'm kidding. I 1017 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 2: had the best time. I literally had the best time. 1018 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: We had so much fun at the surf ranch and 1019 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: you will. I will be supporting you for everything. If 1020 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 1: you ever need anything, you know I'm in your corner 1021 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: and good luck. 1022 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: This is so fun. 1023 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: It's so fun to see your joy and your light 1024 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: and your spark. You still got it and just dude, 1025 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: ride it till the wheels fall off. I want to 1026 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: see you winning championships out forty one. 1027 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. I will definitely try my hardest. I can 1028 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: promise you that. 1029 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 2: Well. Everyone, that is it for this week's episode. 1030 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Caroline, and we'll see you next week on 1031 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: Wide Open with Ashelyn Harris. Caroline, this conversation means so 1032 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: much to me, not just because everything you've accomplished, but 1033 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: because we came from the same place. 1034 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 2: Melbourne Beach has a way of shaping people. 1035 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 1: Who aren't afraid of hard work, who understand humility, who 1036 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,919 Speaker 1: know how to get back up after getting knocked down. 1037 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 1: Watching someone from our hometown go on to win the 1038 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: Olympics and win a gold be becoming one of the 1039 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: best surfers in the world is something really, really special. 1040 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 1: But what I respect most about you is the way 1041 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: you've navigated the highs and the challenges, choosing growth, choosing 1042 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: perspective and choosing to take care of yourself. 1043 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 2: Along the way. 1044 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: I have no doubt we're going to see a lot 1045 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: more incredible moments from you, especially as we head towards 1046 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: LA twenty twenty eight. Thank you all for coming to 1047 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 1: another episode of Wide Open, and we'll see you next week. 1048 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 3: Black Wels