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Welcome to the 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:43.800 Solid Verbal. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:45.640 Come that for me. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.760 I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:50.720 I want to be happy. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.080 You want to be happy for day at the steak? 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:59.680 Is that woo woom and down and tie? Welcome back 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.840 to the Solid Verbal, boys and girls. My name is 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.720 Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always my good friend and 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.880 colleague and co hosts of many years over there in 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.360 New York City, Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.720 I'm all right, Ty, life is all right. I just 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.800 I went to a museum today, Okay, I saw a 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.279 whole bunch of great artwork, went to MoMA, the Museum 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.319 of Modern Art, saw great photography. I'm excited about today's show. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.800 I like a good check in ty, And we haven't 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.880 spoken to Andy Staples. We really haven't had any guests 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.360 on in a long time, just because there's so much 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.400 information during the season and signing day. We obviously have 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.400 a couple guests Bud Elliott and Brandon Hoffman, but it's 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.839 good to just take a deep breath and say, what's 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.280 going on? What are all these people doing? So I'm 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:47.600 excited for this one. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.920 Wake in the morning and you step outside, Dan, take 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.120 a deep breath, you get real high on Today. We're 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.160 gonna talk about new coaches. We're gonna talk about new 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.559 beginnings in the college football world. We've got a long list, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.640 as you know. Oh, the coaching carousel spun mighty quickly 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.920 this college football offseason. So we're going to try and 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:11.720 address at least the most prominent positions in the Power 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.640 five that were filled with Andy Staples. Again, we're going 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.840 to talk through some of our most pressing questions. Don't 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.680 forget we are here all off season long. We're not 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.040 going anywhere, so If you like the show, please tell 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.520 your friends about the show. If you haven't already subscribed, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:31.000 you can do so out on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:36.680 Google Play, Stitcher, anywhere you can find a good podcast, 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.600 you can find the soliverbal We've got all sorts of 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.920 exciting things going on this offseason, and if you want 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.200 to be in the loop, you can always do so 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.359 by finding us out on Facebook, on Twitter, on Instagram, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.160 anywhere you can find social media. We are there as well, Daniel, 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:54.840 is that correct? 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.440 That all sounds right to me, that we're doing audio grams. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.840 I think that's what they're called Twitter and Instagram. And 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.680 you know what I just learned, Ti, I learned that 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.400 you can join somebody else's like you can request to 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:13.160 join I believe somebody else's Instagram live feed. Oh and 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.119 it split screens. It really so now you'll truly never 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.720 have to leave, Oh the beautiful Lehigh Valley in Pennsylvania. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.640 So we should start doing Saturday morning feels like a 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:24.799 good time? Does that work? 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.840 I literally I've never done this. I literally believe, and 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.080 I hate the word literally, I apologize for that usage. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:35.920 I believe you go live on Instagram on your phone 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:41.920 and then you can or somebody watching can request maybe 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:43.840 they have to be your friend. That would make sense. 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:48.119 So if I went from the solid verbal account, you 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.480 could then tune in and call in and suddenly it's 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.240 a split screen I think, not a side to side 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.800 in the way that we're used to in sports television, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.320 more of like the Golden Eye top and bottom. Okay, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.800 was golden iight top bottom? I know Mario Kart was 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.600 so sure, Mario Kart way, a lot of them were, yeah, yeah, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.680 So it's it's essentially that. So wow, you could do 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:15.680 dueling New York Pennsylvania studio tours and just conversations. So 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.000 I think every so often, maybe Saturday mornings. I'm gonna 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:19.760 bug you, all. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.360 Right, I'm down with that. 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Please. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.520 Are you a soft ivy? Are you a roma spread, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.479 a roma, a cutaway, A Londoner, a semi spread? Are 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.960 you an English spread? Londoner? And English spreads a little 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.880 bit different? President spread, a president spread, president cutaway. I 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.120 ask all these things tie just to prove that there 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.560 are so many options to go with because you know 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.400 what next. Shapes are different. Some next look better with 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.040 different collar styles. I'm not gonna sit here and tell 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:23.920 you that I'm gonna look exactly the same as Merton 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.720 Hanks in our collar choice is very different. I like 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.480 the customizable options. I'm not gonna lie tie. I'm all 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.840 about this life. 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The 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.760 rhythm we have on this show is exceeded by by 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:32.360 many people. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.360 That is dead. I cannot lie anymore. All right, Daniel 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:39.920 joining us now from a makeshift studio if we've ever 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.840 had one on the podcast our good friend from Sports 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:44.240 Illustrated on Pristles. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.439 Yeah, Andy, how are you? I'm good? I mean, this 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.640 is probably the best I've ever sounded. Sitting in a 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.520 rental car in a Walgreens parking. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.040 Lot, Describe this setup for the people listening at home. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.680 All right, this is this is how the sausage gets made. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:02.400 So I have a work phone that has Skype on it, 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.040 but nobody has the phone number, so nobody can call 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.199 it and knock the Skype connection off. We are using 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.600 the Skype as a backup because I am also talking 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.800 into a stick mic, which the people who are coming 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.440 out of Walgreens probably think I am insane, but talking 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.880 into a stick mic that is plugged into a task 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:28.439 Cam DR forty linear PCM recorder that should produce theoretically 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:29.800 studio quality sound. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.679 This is probably the fifth or sixth different method that 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.120 we have connected up with you to get your audio 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.199 over the course of the solid verbal. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:44.800 Yes, now, I have done several podcasts like this in 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.640 this manner before, but this is the first time I've 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.680 done it on the solid verbal, and of course it's 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.720 my favorite and the first and the best. 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.200 So I'm honored. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.000 Where is the weirdest place that you've recorded from? Because 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:58.840 Dan and I have done one from a hot tub, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:09:59.440 We've done one. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.439 There's a there is a the Illyweed game answer to 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.040 this that you just don't want to know about it. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:09.200 But where is the strangest place you have broadcast about 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:10.160 college football? 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.120 Oh? 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.719 That's a great question, and I think I've ever done 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:20.600 it from a pool. I've recorded a podcast like in 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.400 a cold tub area where guys were training for the draft. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.760 It's good answer, and nothing got soaked, thank goodness. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.160 So we are talking new beginnings, new coaches, and I mean, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.360 these are people that have been on the job for 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.120 maybe two and a half months, and so there's only 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.920 so much you can accomplish in that time. But we 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.160 wanted to take ty and correct me if I'm wrong. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.640 A sort of holistic view of a very much non 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.400 holistic situation. You have a short amount of time for 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.920 signing day and to build a staff and to sort 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.120 of give off impressions for what you're going to do, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.000 what your vision is going to be, and what the 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.760 program is going to look like under you correct. 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:02.920 Hi, That sounds right. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:03.200 Yeah. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.560 We often find ourselves talking about new coaches at some 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.720 point during the off season, and as Dan mentioned, most 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.400 of the time, it's not till like May or June, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.520 after they've been on the job a little bit longer 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.520 they've had a chance to kind of set some roots. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.720 We are doing it bright and early in the off 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.520 season this time around spring, just because, as you know, Andy, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:27.160 this was a very active coaching carousel season, especially when 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.839 you compare it to what happened last year. I guess 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.120 we can start here. Did you expect it to be 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.880 quite as active as it ended up being. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.800 I'm not sure how active it was. I know it 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.520 was a bunch of huge jobs. I think that we're 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.120 looking at the fact that Florida turned over Florida State 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:50.160 turned over big, big jobs, and you know, we weren't 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.360 sure going into the season that those were going to 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.480 turn over Texas A and then we thought might turn over. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.760 But you know, the idea that Jimbo Fisher would leave 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.280 Florida State for Texas A and M didn't sound like 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.240 something in the realm of possibility in August, and then 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.800 suddenly became more possible as things went along. The idea 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.080 of Jim mcwain getting fired at Florida didn't seem in 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:14.440 the realm of possibility in August, and things got real weird, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.920 real fast. So I think it's just a case of 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.560 kind of the quality of jobs that opened up that 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:25.080 made it feel really active. I'm trying to think the 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.920 numbers I don't think are all that out of whack 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.479 with how many head coaching jobs usually turnover. 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.280 Fair enough, So let's start here. We mentioned Jimbo Fisher. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.560 He's coming over from Florida State. Obviously blockbuster move for 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.560 Texas A and M. It did seem that no price 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.200 tag would be too high, and fairly or unfairly, he 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.840 will be compared against that seventy five million dollar figure. 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:51.840 He hires two very solid coordinators, I think, particularly on defense. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.600 He inherits a younger team take a couple of years 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.160 to sort of get into their own rhythm and reach 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.880 his vision. I guess where should we look with Jimbo 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:05.080 Fisher to measure his short term impact If it's not 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.840 a situation where they're winning nine or ten wins. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.559 I'm not sure we can look at that right now. 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.760 I'm not sure there's a way to gauge his success 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:17.400 right now because they you know, in terms of recruiting, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.120 they had commitments already, guys that were committed to Kevin 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.960 someone pretty much stayed committed to Texas A and M. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.960 They've got a very hard schedule, and so it may 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.040 take a little while before we can really gauge what 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.560 Jimbo Fisher's even doing there, because, like Clemson comes into 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.040 College Station in September, this is not going to be 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.640 easy for him, and I'm just it's one of those 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.320 I think they're going to have to give him some time, 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.480 a couple of years to get things the way they 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.959 want it. And I'm not sure they're going to be 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.120 that patient given the amount they're paying, but they're going 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:58.320 to need to be because this is not an overnight fix. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.800 And you know, it's one of those is that some 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.840 people wonder if you can even fix it at all. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.719 Because Texas A and M has never really been historically 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.920 super successful. And the idea is you're hiring Jibo Fisher 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.440 so you can compete for SEC West titles and SEC 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:17.680 titles and national titles. Well, Texas A and M, throughout 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.640 its history in the various conferences has not been a 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.880 program that has been a year in, year out title 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:28.760 contender type program. So that's what you're paying for, but 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.400 it may take you a little bit to get it. 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.320 So I kind of hope they'll be patient with Jimbo 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:37.240 Fisher because one recruiting wise, he's got to deal with 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:42.400 with Tom Herman trying to revamp the recruiting at Texas 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.600 and Fisher gets there, you know in the midst of 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.680 Tom Herman's first full recruiting cycle, and what you saw 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.080 with Tom Herman's first full recruiting cycle was he kind 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.200 of reclaimed the state of Texas for Texas when you know, 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.840 in past years guys have been going out of state. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.760 The the best players in Texas would go to Ohio 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.320 State or to Stanford, and then you also had to 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.800 deal with Oklahoma and LSU and all these different schools. 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.560 So it's one of those deals. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.560 Where Fisher's in a little bit of a tough spot early, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.680 but if they're going to be a little bit patient 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.040 with him, I do think he can give them what 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:22.040 they want eventually. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.800 So there's an easy transition here because obviously the school 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.320 that Jimbo Fisher leaves in Florida State makes a splash 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.480 higher with Willy Taggart, who comes to Tallahassee after a 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:32.480 year in Eugene. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.920 And it's sort of an interesting dichotomy too, because Jimbo 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.480 Fisher and his last year at Tallahassee was seen as 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.720 being particularly stubborn on offense, and Willy Taggart's career really 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.800 took off when he stopped being stubborn on offense and 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:49.920 revamped things. So with Willie specifically, it seems irrefutable. He's 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.120 a turnaround artist. He's done great things for a number 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.040 of programs, re energizing, recruiting. He should do super well 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.000 recruiting to Tallahassee. But that's different than down the Lady 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:04.400 sustaining a relatively high level of success, which he's yet 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.840 to do. So with Florida State being set up as 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.640 a really really good job is what is I guess 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.160 his in Florida State's biggest challenge in the short term 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.160 when things seemed to be all right. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:20.920 It's just proved this can work. 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.320 And I actually think people are very excited and intrigued 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.520 about what that offense is going to look like with 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:31.520 Florida State type talent, because Willie Taggart's offense is is 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:36.080 you know, he ran the West Coast before at Western Kentucky, 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.560 and when he first got the USF, he's basically the 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.360 third Harbor brother, and his offense looked an awful lot 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.840 like what Jim Harbor runs in Michigan. Well, they were 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.720 about to get fired at USF, and so he made 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.840 changes and a lot of the stuff he installed was 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.760 kind of cribbed from the Baylor Art Briles offense and 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.880 it really took off. The players loved it. They put 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.440 up big numbers. It worked at Oregon with a different type. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.679 You know, Quintin Flowers very mobile quarterback at USF, but 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:07.880 not the best. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:08.440 Thrower in the world. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:13.480 Justin Herbert is a great passer NFL quarterback and he 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.280 also put a big numbers in it. So really interesting 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.160 situation in spring practice with Florida State because you've got 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.360 DeAndre Francois coming back from injury. You've got James Blackman, 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.480 who replaced DeAndre francois quite capably toward the end of 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:33.240 the year. And they're both, you know, guys who could 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.199 succeed in this offense, but could succeed in different ways. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.000 And you know, for Willie Taggert, what kind of numbers 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:42.760 can you put up with the kind of athletes they 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.879 have because the knock and that one of the frustrations 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.520 from the Florida State fan base toward the end of 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.160 the Fisher era was they had all these great athletes, 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.720 but they ran at a very slow tempo and it 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:55.480 was going to you know, every play was going to 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.560 develop though it was going to develop. You can read read, read, read, well, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.320 now what happens when it's all spread out? And remember 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.240 that offense everybody thinks, because you have receivers lineup outside 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.240 the numbers, that you're just gonna chuck it around, that 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.840 offense is actually designed to really be really successful on 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.520 the ground. Cam Akers is the guy who I think 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.880 may benefit from all this the most. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.240 Fair Let's keep the chain going. Mario Christobal is now 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.960 the head coach of Oregon after taking over for Willy Taggart, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.960 who left he's understandably, he's trying to model the way 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.880 Oregon is run after his time at Alabama, or an 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:38.280 SEC power, a generic SEC power whatever, from recruiting processes 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.240 is if that's the word strength and conditioning, day to 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.160 day scheduling, he's you know, everybody says he's a very 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.879 organized guy. He's out three steps ahead of everything. Do 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:53.119 you believe that? I guess philosophy is about program framework 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.240 are transferable. Obviously a lot of people have tried to 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.480 take that Alabama model and crystaball is just he's onto 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.280 something he's to succeed at at Oregon, or do do 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.280 certain methods only work at certain places? 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.040 They're transferable if you can get the same kind of players. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:13.359 And that's the tricky part with Oregon. It's not can 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.440 you get the skill players. They're gonna have the skill 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.280 players they need. Can you get the guys in the 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:24.280 offensive indefensive lines that can make you competitive with Washington, 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:29.760 with Stanford, with USC in that league? And look, the 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.800 Pac twelve lines of scrimmage, with the exception of probably 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:38.720 the Washington D line, aren't really comparable to the D 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.120 lines and offensive lines that you see at an Alabama 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:46.359 or an Auburn or in Ohio State, So you don't 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.480 have to get their defensive line and their offensive line. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.720 You just have to get something better than what you've had, 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.360 and Mario Christobal. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:55.000 Has the eye for that. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.399 He knows what he's looking for, especially along the offensive line. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.080 The tricky part is convinced those guys to come to 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.439 Oregon because they have tons of options. The kind of 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.000 players you need to be successful at those positions have 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.040 tons of options and for the most part, because most 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.600 players tend to stay close to home, they'll stay close 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.840 to home because that's what recruits tend to do. So 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.320 you've got to be able to convince them that it's 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.560 it's in their best interest to come to Oregon and 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.760 that you can be really successful there. And a lot 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.479 of times it has to be just good projection. I mean, 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:34.200 h DeForest Buckner was not a guy that everybody was 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:38.000 all over, but Chip Kelly's staff projected him really well. 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:42.080 They realized what he could become. And that's something that 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.160 the Oregon staff now has to be able to do 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.200 is find those guys who may not be stud defensive 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.639 tackles in high school, but may become stud defensive tackles 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.520 find your find your own Vita Vea. You know, Vida 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:58.600 Vea from Washington was a high school middle linebacker slash 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.840 running back. Now he was a two hundred and ninety 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.280 pound middle linebacker slash running back, which should have given 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.760 you a good sense that he was going to grow 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.919 into a very large person who could move very fast. 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:13.800 But that's the kind of person they need to find 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.840 who you know, maybe not even in Vidave. It was 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.359 a different a little bit different case because there were 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.399 some academic issues coming out of high school, so some 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.800 schools kind of laid off him. But you've got to 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:29.320