WEBVTT - Hour 1 - Celtics Pursuing Kevin Durant, Peter King

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<v Speaker 1>play of the day, stat of the day. Peter King

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<v Speaker 1>will join us coming up in a little bit. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. He was at the Raiders camp, the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bill's camp, and he has eighteen more stops. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to Peter King. Lamar Jackson in the on

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<v Speaker 1>deck circle waiting for his contract. Will it happen before

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<v Speaker 1>the season starts, and is it more along the lines

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<v Speaker 1>of a Deshaun Watson deal or is it going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like Kyler Murray. Peter will join us coming up

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<v Speaker 1>at about twenty minutes. In an hour. In twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Barkley will join us. A few things to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to Charles about, not only the possibility of him going

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<v Speaker 1>to the lib Tour, maybe leaving TNT to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Live tour, but also what's going on with the

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<v Speaker 1>Celtics and the Nets. About an hour ago, Woach had

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<v Speaker 1>a bomb that said, the Celtics have emerged among teams

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in talks on a possible deal to acquire Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 1>Still in the exploratory stage here, but this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I found interesting. The Celtics were the ones who reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to the Nets. The Nets had been reaching out,

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<v Speaker 1>at least reportedly reaching out saying, hey, you want Kevin Durant,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to give us? The Celtics were

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<v Speaker 1>proactive here. Now. I don't know if this is just

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning part of it, it feels that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Miami Heat and Phoenix Suns and the Raptors

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<v Speaker 1>they are they're trying varying degrees of interest here in

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<v Speaker 1>Durant to see if they can pull off a deal. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of a deal for Durant to Boston would

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<v Speaker 1>include Jay and Brown, not Jason Tatum, and then there

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<v Speaker 1>would be draft picks in their unprotected draft picks. That'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably be a couple other players involved in that got

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<v Speaker 1>to make the salaries work as well. But that it's

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour ago that Woag had the bomb about

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of the Nets and the Boston Celtics maybe

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<v Speaker 1>pulling off a deal. Now, he did caution everybody here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just reporting that the Celtics have had talks with

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets. That's it. I'm sure that the Sun's did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the Raptors have. I'm sure that the Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Heat have. But you have details here. That's the difference

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<v Speaker 1>that you actually have players that we know that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy or those are the guys, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what they want. But if I'm the Boston Celtics, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you want Kevin Durant, and if you could give up

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown has two more years on his contract,

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<v Speaker 1>you might lose him after two years. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to throw in Grant Williams, you want to throw

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<v Speaker 1>and some draft picks. Now there's another report that said

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<v Speaker 1>that they're looking at Mark is Smart, that the Nets

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<v Speaker 1>would like to have Jalen Brown, Mark is Smart, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe another player and some draft picks. If I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>Nets that I'm trading Kevin Durant, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Tatum. That's it. I want Jason Tatum. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we the Nets may go hey, you know what we're

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<v Speaker 1>not in an advantageous situation here, Well you are. You

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<v Speaker 1>got Kevin Durant under contract, Just keep them, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>How badly does he one out? I also find it

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<v Speaker 1>interesting ironic as they might say that here's Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>maybe leaving the Nets, leaving Kyrie behind to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Celtics, and then some of the Celtics who played

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<v Speaker 1>with Kyrie would then be going to the Nets to

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<v Speaker 1>play with Kyrie. That's pretty good, that's kind of delicious there.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, just the exploratory, the beginning, the eonic

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<v Speaker 1>stages of maybe a trade here. But if I start

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<v Speaker 1>to look at this and I go, Okay, who am

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<v Speaker 1>I getting? Who am I building around? That's if I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it from the Nets, because we always look

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<v Speaker 1>at it from the other side of things. Where you go, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Celtics could get Kevin Durant, Okay, what DoD the

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<v Speaker 1>Nets get in return? Because Katie's going to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaylen Brown, okay, good player, And if the Celtics had

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<v Speaker 1>won the title, might have been the MVP in the

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<v Speaker 1>finals was far better than Jason Tatum. You got Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Smart kind of figured out his role. You brought in

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Brogden to Boston, so you do have the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>of Malcolm Brogden being your starting point guard not coming

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<v Speaker 1>off the bench. You want to throw in a big man,

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<v Speaker 1>You want to throw in somebody defensive minded, Robert Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, throw in whoever and some draft picks there.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm the Nets, I need a little bit more there.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I'm the Celtics, do I do it? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I give up Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Robert Williams. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the other part is if you're involved in the trade talks,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jaylen Brown is probably going, oh, should I take

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<v Speaker 1>this as a compliment that it's me for Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>sort of? Or does he go I'm not staying here

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what. If I don't get traded, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>staying here. You know you don't value me. I was

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<v Speaker 1>our best player in the NBA Finals. Now you want

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<v Speaker 1>to send me to the Nets for Kevin Durant. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you look at it as three year window,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's how I would look at this. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get Kevin Durant for three years. Do I say that's

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<v Speaker 1>enough for three years? Because I got I got the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the ages of these players with the Celtics.

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<v Speaker 1>If I factor that in there, they're all young. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I could have Jalen Brown, who I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>see what he does Outside of Jason Tatum, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty five year old potential superstar and maybe benefited

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<v Speaker 1>by being you know, a pippinto Tatum's Jordan, but Tatum's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Tatum is the next Kevin Durant. Perhaps that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I would still say, look, we'll trade you a KD,

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<v Speaker 1>but we want Jason Tatum back. We'll take less in return,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to guess that conversation doesn't last that long.

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<v Speaker 1>Let you put KD in there with Jason Tatum and

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<v Speaker 1>then surround him with whatever you have left over. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was curious what DraftKings would have. Now here's the potential.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is based off the potential for a trade

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<v Speaker 1>title odds you've shifted. The Celtics are an even larger

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<v Speaker 1>favorite to win next year's NBA title. So on the

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth of this month, the Celtics were plus five fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to win it all. Boston's now plus five hundred, the

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<v Speaker 1>second best odds Clippers and the Warriors at plus six hundred. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Boston and right now you're the favorites to

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<v Speaker 1>win the NBA title, why do you trade for Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it, you got Tatum, you got Brown, Brogden

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<v Speaker 1>came in, Marcus Smart. I think I got a good team,

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<v Speaker 1>got a good coach. I would stand Pat. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie is great to have, wonderful player, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great players of all time. I don't want to give

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<v Speaker 1>up too much to get him, and then maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the depth to win a championship here. And

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Stage certainly won because of the depth that they

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<v Speaker 1>had and they didn't even play Aminga and Wiseman was injured.

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<v Speaker 1>But having Wiggins in pool to help out with Steph

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<v Speaker 1>Curry and Draymond Green and Clay Thompson, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why they won the title. And it feels like it's

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<v Speaker 1>two really good players, superstars, and then depth because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you go for the big three. I would stay with

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the big two, and then have depth there.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm Boston, as much as you know you would

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<v Speaker 1>love to have kad I'd rather keep Jalen Brown and

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Tatum together unless they don't like each other, unless

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<v Speaker 1>their games are very very similar, and then you think

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do something different. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's gonna mean for Katie and Jason Tatum getting

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<v Speaker 1>along out there playing the same position. Yeah, Mark, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, And I think that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be so awkward if none of this happens and you

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<v Speaker 1>go back to training camp and Brad Stevens like, Hey, Jalen,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going? What do you mean, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>How is your off season? How was your all season? Bread? Disappointed?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. Yeah. But I if I'm the Nets, I

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<v Speaker 1>want Jason Tatum. If I'm the Celtics, I would stand pat.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I know that sounds crazy to turn down

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant, but what do I give up in return?

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<v Speaker 1>And do I have enough to win a championship? Yeah, Pollie.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Sham Sharania from The Athletic an hour ago,

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<v Speaker 1>he reported the Boston Celtics offered Jaylen Brown for Durant

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<v Speaker 1>in that package, and the Nets are the ones who

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<v Speaker 1>turned it down. As of right now, the Nets turned

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<v Speaker 1>it down, so the Celtics wanted it the Celtics want Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they want Katie, but they they're giving up Jaylen Brown. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying that officially the Nets passed on that

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<v Speaker 1>deal an hour ago, according to the Athletic. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it if I can keep Jason Tatum and

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<v Speaker 1>then I got Durant. Sure, Now is Marcus smart in?

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<v Speaker 1>There is Robert Wait. I mean, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>else is going to be thrown in there, but right

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<v Speaker 1>now it's just this dart And of course it's on

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<v Speaker 1>a Monday, and it's early, so everybody's gonna fly with

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<v Speaker 1>this today discussion. It just talks. Okay, it's nothing. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how serious it is. It might be one

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<v Speaker 1>of those where you know, I you know, growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember calling girls to go out on a date.

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<v Speaker 1>We never went out on a date, but we did

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<v Speaker 1>talk about maybe going out on a date. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the word exploratory. Yeah calls, they're just what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Would you want to go to the football game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like we were getting married, but that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like anything that has to do with Durant,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly this time of the year. Then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to go from zero to sixteen. Make sure

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<v Speaker 1>anything else that his front burners stuff. We'll talk football

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<v Speaker 1>with Peter King coming up. Charles Barkley will stop by

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<v Speaker 1>NFL training camps. They will all be opened by Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't understand the staggered start, and shouldn't we

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<v Speaker 1>allow the teams that aren't very good to start earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta talk to Peter about that. David Ortiz got

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<v Speaker 1>inducted into the Hall of Fame yesterday. I don't understand this.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not have the Hall of Fame induction ceremony in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, let's say, from eleven till one, ten until one,

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<v Speaker 1>however long it last. If you have games on a

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday and there in the afternoon or in the evening,

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<v Speaker 1>why have the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies while they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing baseball. So when Big Poppy was being introduced yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox we're playing, how about you do this

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<v Speaker 1>in April. How about you do this to start the season.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL does this where you have the players who

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be there Hall of Fame weekend in August,

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<v Speaker 1>start the season. Have a football game there. Why not

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, the I don't know the World Series

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<v Speaker 1>teams play the start of the season, have Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame weekend. But or right, you know, like Big Poppy

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<v Speaker 1>being introduced, you know, giving a speech that you have

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<v Speaker 1>that on the JumboTron there at Fenway while they're taking

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<v Speaker 1>VP that the fans who didn't go could watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all hardcore fans are going to watch the game,

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<v Speaker 1>but celebrate the game, don't. Hey, you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a game going on and oh the induction ceremony. There

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<v Speaker 1>are times when I see some things and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so obvious that maybe it's not so obbyous

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<v Speaker 1>like you're going. Doesn't that make sense? Have it in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning where it's a little cooler than staying outside

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<v Speaker 1>where it's really hot. You know, Upstate New York Afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Yeah more and the way the Red Sox, the

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<v Speaker 1>way the weekend went. Oh, they would have much rather

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<v Speaker 1>watched anything else besides the Red Sox playing baseball. We

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<v Speaker 1>for us? Sure, Well, we could do one off of

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<v Speaker 1>what you're just talking about with Kevin Durant, better duo

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<v Speaker 1>Durant Tatum or Brown Tatum or even Kyrie Durant. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kyrie part of this is interesting too, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you get Jayalen Brown, do I need Marcus Smart? I

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<v Speaker 1>guess if he's going to play a true point guard?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I got Kyrie playing the two? Yeah, Seed,

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<v Speaker 1>I just love the idea that Kevin Durant and Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people want to talk about the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>a Kevin Durant trade to the Boston Celtics right now

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<v Speaker 1>in the exploratory stages, so right, WOJ had that this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, it's just a conversation and even downplayed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Not exactly a wog bomb, but certainly something that could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially lead to something a little bit bigger here. But

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brown's involved in it, not Jason Tatum. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the NETS, I certainly want to hear Jason Tatum's name.

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<v Speaker 1>join us momentarily, Peter. Want to see the Raiders, want

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Buffalo Bills. Here is a comment from

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams talking about going from one Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in Green Bay to a Hall of Fame quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>with the Raiders. I mean, anytime you change quarterbacks from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hall of Famer to Hall of Famer you go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Stabler to rich Gannon or whoever you go to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a little bit of an adjustment. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, both are great players and great to be around.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just enjoying that process and getting better myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to do as much as I can to

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<v Speaker 1>help these guys who go out there and win as

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<v Speaker 1>many games and we can. That's courtesy as CBS Sports HQ.

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<v Speaker 1>Peter King was with the Raiders, of course, the great

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<v Speaker 1>columnists for Football Morning in America NBC Sports dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>What'd you make of those comments that I'd like that

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<v Speaker 1>he believes in Derek Carr but hall of Fame quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, what's he gonna say, Go from

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame quarterback to a nice quarterback? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, I mean, I'll just say this, Dan, we

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<v Speaker 1>live in an age where every athlete knows that being

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely totally honest and saying that, Hey, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was with one of the top ten quarterbacks of all

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<v Speaker 1>time and Aaron Rodgers, and now I'm going to a

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl caliber quarterback. I'm really happy. I'm fortunate to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do it. But let's face it, Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Carr's not Aaron Rodgers. I mean, so he can't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he then has to say something that obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>a stretch, but I don't know. It goes in one

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<v Speaker 1>ear and out the other. To me. Explain to me

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<v Speaker 1>the love for the Raiders so far, it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>the media is on this bandwagon early. Are you buying

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<v Speaker 1>the Raider hype? Well, well, they made the playoffs last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and in their only playoff game last year, they were

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<v Speaker 1>very competitive and almost beat the champion of the AFC.

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<v Speaker 1>The eventual champion of the AFC. They added the best

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<v Speaker 1>receiver in football and a transcendent for them anyway, Pass

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<v Speaker 1>Rusher to team with Max Crosby. I mean, why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you be excited about the Raiders. I think the Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to be really good. Unfortunately, really good.

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<v Speaker 1>You also might have to overcome going two and four

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<v Speaker 1>or three and three in your division. What's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be really interesting? I figure there's a bunch of early

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<v Speaker 1>games that are fun. But like Josh McDaniels told me

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, he goes, you should go to that

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<v Speaker 1>our first game of the year, And I had to

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<v Speaker 1>think for a minute, Raiders at Chargers. He goes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really going to be a great game because the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>obviously made a lot of improvements this offseason, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders made improvements this offseason. So every team in that

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<v Speaker 1>division is going to be better. So even if the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders are better, it doesn't necessarily mean they're even going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a playoff team. But I like what I

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<v Speaker 1>saw when I saw him this weekend. But you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about teams getting better, did the Chiefs get better? No,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't. They're the one, but they've won the division

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<v Speaker 1>six years in a row, so you know, somebody is

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<v Speaker 1>still going to have to knock off the King anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and obviously at very

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<v Speaker 1>diminished receiver corps. But but you know, Juju Smith, Schuster

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<v Speaker 1>and this rookie sky More I think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an impact player. And we'll see about Marquees Valdis Scandling,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're going to be good enough on offense. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody's saying, well, you know, the Packers without DeVante Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>they are not going to be as good because Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers always figured this stuff out. Yes, he does. So.

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<v Speaker 1>When I did my thirty two teams thirty two questions

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<v Speaker 1>in the column today, I wrote about the Packers special

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<v Speaker 1>teams and Rich Bisaccia coming in to me, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing that they have to deal with. They lost

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff game to a weak offensive team in San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco at home. They lost it because they couldn't play

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<v Speaker 1>special teams. So that to me is a bigger question

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<v Speaker 1>right now in Green Bay because Aaron Rodgers always figures

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Deebo Samuel situation kind of quiet. I don't know, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>it strikes me that John Lynch is really going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get something done under the radar to try

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<v Speaker 1>to keep Deebo Samuel happy. Look in the past, some

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<v Speaker 1>players in search of a new contract report to training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>don't practice and just it go to all the media

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<v Speaker 1>and so to not have a war with that player,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times the team just grits his teeth

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<v Speaker 1>and says, Okay, just come to meetings and stay here

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<v Speaker 1>and we won't find you. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Deebo Samuel is going to do or not. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're Lamar Jackson's camp, what happens do you is there

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<v Speaker 1>an initiative on your part? Are you waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens to act on a contract extension? You know, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said all along that to me, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>see Lamar Jackson play well in the postseason before paying

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<v Speaker 1>him more money than Patrick Mahomes. To me, that's and

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<v Speaker 1>I still feel that way. He's played four playoff games.

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<v Speaker 1>He has not played well in any one of those

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<v Speaker 1>four games. And you know you're not signing a guy

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<v Speaker 1>for the long term because he can play well in October.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you've signed him because you think he can

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<v Speaker 1>lead you to a championship. Now, it could be that

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens might say, Okay, we'll risk it. We'll sign

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<v Speaker 1>him for four years, forty seven million year or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because if he does win a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>or plays great in the playoffs, then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Flacco situation. We don't even remember this, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think about this, but one decade ago, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Flacco was the first twenty million dollar player in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems almost laughable to think about that now, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's the first twenty million dollar player in history because

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<v Speaker 1>he bet on himself and he said, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>win the Super Bowl next year, be a free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna have to break the bank for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they did. If I were Jackson, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>mind doing that. If I gave you a five year

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<v Speaker 1>contract to give to either Kyler or Lamar, you had

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<v Speaker 1>to give it to one one of those two, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably give it to Lamar because I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about Kyler that worries me a bit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a small human being relatively speaking, Not that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lamar Jackson is a is a sequoia. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray is gonna you know, part of his game

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<v Speaker 1>is his legs, as is you know, the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with Jackson. But I just I fear Kyler Murray. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're very different in terms of what they

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<v Speaker 1>can produce over the course of a season. But I

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<v Speaker 1>worry a little bit about Murray staying healthy. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Peter King Football Morning, an America economist and course

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<v Speaker 1>contributor with NBC Sports. The market for Jimmy Garoppolo is what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't I really don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep thinking that he'll end up in Seattle, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he will. But the smartest thing for Jimmy Garoppolo

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<v Speaker 1>to do is right now to just tell the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers don't do anything. I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere till Labor Day, even if I go somewhere then,

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<v Speaker 1>because remember, you know, in twenty fifteen, when the Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Bradford thing happened, you know, Teddy Bridgewater gets hurt in

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota and Sam Bradford gets traded for a gold mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Turned out to be a great deal for the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>because Carson Wentz was, you know, was ready to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever year that was, I think it was sixteen, maybe seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>I forget, but I think if I were him, unless

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<v Speaker 1>I got some assurance from Seattle that I really had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to be the long term guy, I would

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<v Speaker 1>if I were him, I'd rather wait till to see

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<v Speaker 1>what everybody's health is. On Labor Day weekend you were

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<v Speaker 1>with the Buffalo Bills. It seemed like it was boy

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<v Speaker 1>band crazy for Josh Allen up there with the fans

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<v Speaker 1>hope for, wish for expect out of Josh Allen. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen a reaction to a player in an in

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<v Speaker 1>training camp like that. I don't know if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember the last time I saw a reaction. They were

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely bonkers for Josh Allen. He's become you know, Sean

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<v Speaker 1>McDermott said something very interesting to me, yes, sir, because

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<v Speaker 1>I complimented him. Remember in May when there was the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store slaughter in Buffalo and the bills they took

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<v Speaker 1>like five buses. Everybody in the organization came in and

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<v Speaker 1>and Stefan Diggs flew in. He wasn't even at their

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<v Speaker 1>mini camp and he flew in to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go and be with his teammates there. And Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>stood up and he was the spokesman for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>not the coach, not the GM not the owner. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Josh Allen was the spokesman. He was eloquent, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he has become something of a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a civic icon there very early in his career. And

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<v Speaker 1>what I should mentioned, McDermott said to me, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, athletes in a town can be hugely important.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, remember when David Ortiz stood up at Fenway

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<v Speaker 1>Park and said, this is our bleep in city, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and everybody said, oh, geez. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>little kids are listening to that. But David Ortiz was saying, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>don't ff around with us, man, because we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to come back with a vengeance. And I think Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Allen in what he did around the time of that

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<v Speaker 1>shooting really kind of propelled himself into a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a civically year status. Is the time frame of the

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<v Speaker 1>season factored in with the decision with DeShawn Watson. I

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>mean I thought we'd have a decision by July twenty five. Obviously,

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the Browns need to know, and they need to know

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>if they are going to have to go out. I mean,

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>if Suell Robinson, the arbitrator, says I agree we're going

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to suspend him for a year, or I agree with

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the NFL's case, we're going to suspend him for a year,

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and then obviously it's going to be appealed and all that.

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>But so they have to know. And again, look, I

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know what the process has been like.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's time for her to make a decision. She's

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>got to do it this week. Pete, good to talk

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>to you. Off to the Patriots coming up later this week. Yeah,

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>going to the Patriots and then going to see the Browns,

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>also in the Steelers, and then eighteen teams total in

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>about the next three and a half weeks. What happens

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>when you cross paths with Belichick? I don't know. I

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>haven't talked to him in fifteen years, so I don't.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't. We don't say anything to each other.

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't really know. I have not cross

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>paths with him many times, and I doubt I will

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>in Foxboro this week. Have you put in a request

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 1>to talk to Yes, I have a couple of times too.

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>He has chosen and not to. We actually reached out

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to him and we said we'll only talk Army, Navy,

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that's it. And then the response was he's considering it.

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>That's as close as we got to Belichick that he

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>was considering it. Hey, look, you know, I mean, that's

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the hazard. Sometime in this job, you have an opinion,

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>you write things, people don't like it, they choose not

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.120
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. This goes back to the spygate thing,

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and it's just that's just that's life.

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>That's life in the big city, and you experience it.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I experience it. We're all big people and the life

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>goes on. Anybody else that is on that list, Pete,

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>that you're still waiting to talk to. There's a few

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>people who have been difficult for me, but I don't

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>think there's anybody else who basically who I put if

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I put in a request, wouldn't at least consider talking

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm really not, as you know, Dan, I'm

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>not really the big bad wolf, and but I am

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>going to say, like I I when I go to Cleveland,

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I would really like to talk to Deshaun Watson, even

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>though I think his contract is an absolute abomination. I

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>can't believe that the Browns did that. So I'm going

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>to try to talk to all the parties involved. Hopefully

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I can. But I guess you'll have to look at

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Football Mourning in America and Monday to see how I did.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess that the last thirty seconds might preclude

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you from talking to de Seawan. Dan, I've said it

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>forty eight times. I you know I'm not and it's

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>just the way I feel. Yeah, I don't have anything

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>against those guys. I really I like those guys, but

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I vehemently disagree with what they did say. Travels, Pete.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Always great to talk to you. Okay, Hey, thanks a lot, Dan.

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>That's Peter King. Football Morning in America. We find down

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.959
<v Speaker 1>when he writes next Monday, after he visits the Patriots

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and the Browns and the Steelers. A couple of phone

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>calls in here Jay in North Carolina. Hi, Jay, Hey, Jay,

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Well that's not a good way to start. Gerald in Cooperstown, Hi,

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Gerald D three A long time, first time six foot

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and way too much. All right, Hey, I'm calling about

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>your You know, it's so obvious that it's not obvious

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>about having the Hall of Fame induction ceremony at the

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the season. Yeah, have you ever been out there? Yes?

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Und yes, all right, you haven't been there any for may.

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm guess it's a little breezy, anybody, it's a little breezy.

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>But can you have it indoors up there in Cooperstown?

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>How about? Still the thing is here? Here's the thing

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>with it this year and now I haven't lived up

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>there about well, I did live there for about I

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>grew up up there, but last went back about four

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>or five years ago. Coldest winner on record a foot

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>of snow first weekend in May, and then this past year.

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, I won't even go home unless it's all

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>because I'm just afraid it's gonna snow. And I gotta

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>get the hell out of here by September because I'm

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>sraid it's gonna snow. But Gerald, how about we don't

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>have Hall of Fame speeches during games? Oh yeah, no

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>doubt about it. That's ridiculous. I don't understand that at all.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>That's you know, it was all spike of faith. Yeah,

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that's I mean, I just baseball. They just came off

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>a great All Star weekend, beah infestive all Star week

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>It was great, it was fun. People are talking about it.

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Celebrate the game. Celebrate the game so people can celebrate

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>it with you. That's all. Yes, it is cold and

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Cooperstown do you have to have it outside? But you know,

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>football has it football. I've been to Canton. I've been

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>there for that and that is a long day, too long,

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>so much so that they had to, you know, issue

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>at you know, kind of time constraints there. But out

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>augustin Canton is rough. But at least they're celebrating the

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>game before they start playing games. As you lead into

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the season. It just it was weird to see Big

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Poppy while the Red Sox were playing it. But you know,

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's not a big deal to baseball, but it

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was just one of those where you go, why don't

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>they do this in a different way, in a better way.

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>We'll take a break. I got our play of the

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>day up next more phone calls. Charles Barkley will join

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>us coming up next hour here, Dan Patrick Show. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>plate and it is a grand Sla inside the park

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<v Speaker 1>from Topia. That was one of twenty eight hits by

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<v Speaker 1>They needed Tom Brady overcome that deficit down twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>twitter handle at dp's show. Draymond Greene tweeted out, I'm

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:17.240
<v Speaker 1>watching the nineteen ninety eight Bulls versus Utah in the finals.

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I can't help but notice our twenty seventeen team would

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>have beaten these Bulls by a dub and these Jazz

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>by forty if they were going to play these brands

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of basketball. That's why it's doumb to compare eras well.

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised that Draymond green would say that twenty

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>seventeen Warriors would beat the Bulls. I would have been

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:44.240
<v Speaker 1>more surprised if he said we wouldn't have beaten the Bulls.

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>So to me, it's a non headline. Even though we

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>love to do this, we love to compare generations. The

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>game is different, how you play the game is different,

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>what you're allowed to do not allowed to do. It's

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.839
<v Speaker 1>fun to discuss it, but there's no right or wrong

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>answer when it comes to this. If he thinks the

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen Warriors playing today's basketball would have beaten the Balls, fine,

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>if those players twenty seventeen were playing the way the

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>game was called back in nineteen ninety eight, I'd like

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to see that too. And there's you know, the emphasis

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>on the three point shot. You know, players evolve. We

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>see that that they change in accordance to what you

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>allow them to do or they need to do. Now,

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to be able to shoot the three. Back then,

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you had to be able to play defense both ends

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of the floor and far more physical. There wasn't an

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>emphasis on the three point shot. The big man was

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>still a big man down low. So there's a lot

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of things that you can discuss, compare and contrast, and

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that's why it's always going to be a topic of conversation.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like Lebron in today's game, Michael Jordan back when

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he played Michael now Lebron back then? What would Kareem

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>be like now as opposed to back then? What would

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Shack be like now? What would Wilt be like? What

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>would Bill Russell be like? G see where JJ Reddick said, well,

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>he was critical of Bob Kuzy saying he played against

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, fireman and policeman. I don't know if that's

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>technically true or not, but Jerry West came out and said, like, basically,

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>who's JJ Reddick. You average twelve points a game. Well,

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>in fairness to JJ, it doesn't matter what he averages.

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>He still played. But what JJ has to understand is, yes,

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 1>those guys did have second jobs, and because of those guys,

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you got to enjoy the riches of the NBA because

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>they kept the NBA going because not everybody was making

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>good money back then. In fact, they weren't making good

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>money back then. But because of those players, because of

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>those teams, because of those dynasties, because of those Hall

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of famers, you have today's game. So don't be stupid

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and get lost. In hell, he would have been playing

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>against Fireman and you know whatever police officers. Maybe he

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>was because they had to have second jobs. They didn't

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 1>make this kind of money. So understand the history of

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the game. And yes, JJ average in twelve. He still

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>has an opinion. I respect the opinion. So Jerry calling

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>him out because the only average twelve points doesn't mean

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't know basketball, he doesn't know the history

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of it, because then he wouldn't have said that about

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, Bob Kuzi or any of those other players.

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>You know Sam Joe Bill Russell. Bill Russell played against

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 1>these same players. Is he critical Bill Russell? Is it

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>just Bob Kuzzi? But Jerry West called out JJ Reddick,

0:38:48.840 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>say your average twelve points? Basically, who are you tough?

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>When the logos telling you that? Yeah, that's true. You know,

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>It's one thing if Mike Greenberg saying something to you,

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Kendrick Perkins all of a sudden, Wait, would the logos say, yeah,

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>he basically called you o Yeah, who are you? Yeah?

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>He got he averaged twelve points a game. Those guys

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>probably smoke cigarettes at halftime. Yeah, probably probably did. Yeah.

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>You know today's players might be firing up a bone

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>all right, probably, Well, yeah, we heard about that with

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.919
<v Speaker 1>some of these players. All right, a couple of phone

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>calls in here, Yeah, it's firing up a bone. I know,

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>did I sound How old and white did I sound? Him? There? Marv?

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>How old and white did I sound there? Out of ten?

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Jerry West appreciated the reference. Yeah, okay, someone google firing

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>up a bone. Yes. Bob Couzy appreciated what he was like. Now,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:01.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy gets it. I thought I heard Dan Patrick

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>say fire up a bone? Yes, Marv I thought you're

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna say reefer, Well, the reefer. Yeah, I remember my

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>dad referred to it as that the reefer. If I

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>was your age, i'd probably smoked the reefer. That's definitely generational. Yes,

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>my grandmother who smoke a refer in this house? Mom

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>pot marijuana? Yes, boy, you say the refer It sounds

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like some banjo referdition, gentlemen, the refer. Yeah, don't fear

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<v Speaker 1>the reefer. All right, maybe it's a reefer. All right, Paula,

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<v Speaker 1>you got rookie stats for me? I have whose stats

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<v Speaker 1>were rookie edition? All right? Marvel, I'm bringing who sets back? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this other road, don't know how. Yeah, he thinks it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny when you hit your sack straight on his head

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<v Speaker 1>and he did not react. Pat, suck it, Row fools,

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<v Speaker 1>fritzie bag. We'll let you pick on me if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't be. Hey, who's do you want? Love? Bron r

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<v Speaker 1>m J it's only newss makes me feel this word

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding, sucker back Row, Who's you want? Who's statt

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<v Speaker 1>to w who's gonna want? And whose stats you want

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<v Speaker 1>with the MVP? Whose stad to you? Whom with the

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<v Speaker 1>jacket Jimmy d whose stats all right, fantastic. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think you have to do Lee whose stats after

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<v Speaker 1>that's been terrible disappointment. I heard a rookie quarterback from

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<v Speaker 1>last year being kind of rifting the Jets made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Wilson doesn't look good. He looked terrible as rookie year.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't expect him be good, and they were saying

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets made a mistake taking Zach Wilson BYU, whose

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<v Speaker 1>stats would you want quarterback as a rookie? Fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>percent passing, ten touchdowns, twelve picks, twenty one hundred yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Quarterback rating of sixty seven. This quarterback to fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent passing nine touchdowns, eleven interceptions, very similar, twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>yards a little more. Quarterback rating of sixty nine point seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess quarterback two is Zach Wilson of the Jets. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Quarterback one is Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills. Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still going to take quarterback one because I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's made me the best quarterback in the league. Close though,

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<v Speaker 1>there's hope for the Jets. Charles Barkley said to join

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