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Speaker 2: For Jeft DJ Wells.

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Speaker 3: Clap it up for DJ Wells, Bishop b Hening and

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Speaker 3: NBA champion Dallas Mavericks legend the Matrix Sean Marry and

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Speaker 3: clap it up for him.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, Hey and boy, you and tru like that.

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Speaker 4: You need to come on this.

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Speaker 1: Podcast going crazy. He started sweating after the turn up.

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Speaker 1: You know what it is Club five twenty week in

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Speaker 1: Dallas with it this weekend?

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Speaker 4: How y'all wore man.

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Speaker 5: Were from me Tonapolis, Indiana's three one seven day around

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Speaker 5: our way we grabbed you know what I'm saying. Happy

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Speaker 5: to be out here with y'all, cele braton doing it

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Speaker 5: in with hen see Arena Walmo again. But like I said,

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Speaker 5: it's Club five twenty podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm the host.

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Speaker 1: My name is DJ Wells. We got a legend to

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Speaker 1: my left. Special guests. You're gonna introduce my man's last

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Speaker 1: ones to my far left.

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Speaker 5: My dog Bishop be hearing out the Burley's green leaf.

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Speaker 4: How you are nasty? Nasty? What's up? Dallas wasn't near

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Speaker 4: every bad Let's go, yeah, a little matrix. I know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I know your full game crazy, but have you ever

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Speaker 5: seen the black forces with the white laces.

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Speaker 4: That's how he was in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: That's how he wouldn't you know.

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Speaker 2: No, I ain't never seen those, but it's they cleaned all.

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Speaker 4: Like out the gate now is clean.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, you know the black air forms went nasty.

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Speaker 6: But you know everybody that's penitentiary chances right here, Hey,

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Speaker 6: criminal Bob, he.

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Speaker 1: Might not rob you, but he might scam you with

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Speaker 1: the white las You know what I'm saying, My man,

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Speaker 1: my bad.

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Speaker 4: But to my right, my dog, young young team, how

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Speaker 4: you would man?

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Speaker 1: And I'm cooling bro in Dallas has been a good time.

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Speaker 1: The Bobs was right. Hennessy got me right, y'all know

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Speaker 1: how I get when I get that Hennessy, I get

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Speaker 1: to sweat a little bit about bag of food in here.

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Speaker 1: I don't do too much trying to renew this contract.

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Speaker 1: But to my left, we got a legend, legend, legend legend.

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Speaker 1: Y'all don't even notice. He's from the Midwest though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: from the Midwest. But he made big noise down here

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Speaker 1: in the city Dallas.

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Speaker 5: Put a banner up. We got the matrix shine Mary

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Speaker 5: in the building. Appreciate you pulling up, big dog.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited because I know y'all got some shit

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Speaker 6: for me.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we definitely got a lot to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But first, you know what I'm saying, we always talked

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Speaker 1: with the fullwear game. People who don't know this is

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Speaker 1: sleep but you're a legend, especially with the footwear game

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Speaker 1: and the Jordan pees.

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Speaker 4: How did that come about?

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Speaker 2: So look, you know it's an interesting story.

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Speaker 6: So everybody me calling me about them damn shoes too

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Speaker 6: though that Joe was like I need a pair of those,

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Speaker 6: and everybody, I'm like, yo, I didn't even have a

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Speaker 6: pair when everybody was asking me for a pair. Because

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Speaker 6: during my uh, I think it's my third year and

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Speaker 6: I almost basically became a free agent shoe so like

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Speaker 6: and uh, I was gonna go with Jordan. A lot

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Speaker 6: of people don't know this. I was gonna sign with

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Speaker 6: I was like, what, you would just give me the brand,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, the shoes and stuff and

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Speaker 6: if I'm in the Nike I'm getting it anyway, right,

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Speaker 6: He's like, yeah, it's I was like, and they gonna

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Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm going there. I'm going Team Nike.

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Speaker 4: Now I get that shape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But he made me.

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Speaker 4: He was making me.

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Speaker 6: He was sending me Jeordians throughout the year when I

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Speaker 6: Tucker got them because he went into the vault. So

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Speaker 6: and all the guys played through.

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Speaker 2: Now, typically if you if.

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Speaker 6: You're with whoever brand you are, they sing you some

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Speaker 6: So they got lumped in. He went through there rummaging

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Speaker 6: it was even better than that. Though it's fucked up

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Speaker 6: because he got him out, so I never got him.

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Speaker 6: So so now now hold on, I never received them.

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Speaker 6: But I do have a locker here at my house

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Speaker 6: that I haven't really been through all the sneakers, so

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Speaker 6: I could have some at the house, but dude, I

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Speaker 2: So but I don't have none.

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Speaker 6: But then now you hit a few pair at the

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Speaker 6: facility this summer booker was there working out, went to

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Speaker 6: LA And then I was like, yo, how you got here?

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Speaker 6: of course he wanted me to be in his Nike

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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

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Speaker 7: I want to ask you, how in the hell did

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Speaker 2: Bro We from Indiana, Trail Blazer's baby all day.

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Speaker 6: So, so when I was coming out of high school,

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Speaker 6: and the coach was like, yo, whatever you need and

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Speaker 6: whatever you want you got here.

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Speaker 2: So locked in and that was. That was two of

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Speaker 2: my best years I've ever had.

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Speaker 6: Playing though, when we did everything and they lived a

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Speaker 7: We used to go down there and party and I

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Speaker 7: used to see your name on the bedroom. I'm like,

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Speaker 7: ain't no fucking way.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen part I'm married from thirty eighth.

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Speaker 6: Gotta be from the ghetto, man. You know this has

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Speaker 6: got so much history though, you know, Yeah, legends went

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't I'm a spacfectual. Guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't lie me too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, it was all conference two years in

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Speaker 1: a row. Baby, Oh yeah yeah male. Soon after the

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Speaker 1: Vince Hands up. He didn't know about the Vince hands

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Speaker 1: parties legendary.

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Speaker 2: Oh they were.

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Speaker 6: I ain't gonna even lie to. They did some shipped

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Speaker 6: there that a lot of the Division one schools don't do.

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Speaker 6: It was it was some dope walky talkie type ship.

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Speaker 4: You know, they got looking at.

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Speaker 6: They got they got the walking talking here, so they

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Speaker 6: gotta look out guys.

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Speaker 2: Man, it was it was late.

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Speaker 5: Tell them about when you went to didy House. Oh shine,

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Speaker 5: no entertained. That's what other podcast.

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Speaker 4: We ain't at the cruise.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say something.

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Speaker 1: On this chill sorry, Oh my god, they got a

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Speaker 1: different walking talking to that party.

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Speaker 4: Don't do that. This is about Mary.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to after this.

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Speaker 4: Back back.

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Speaker 5: But obviously you transfer to UNLV. How was that process like?

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Speaker 5: Because I know everybody in the world wanted you coming

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Speaker 6: So look, so my dream school was North Carolina. Dude,

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Speaker 6: I was gonna be a tar Hill. I was like,

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Speaker 6: that's all I fucked with in MJ Man, you know

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Speaker 6: more than I say, so I was. Actually, they had

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Speaker 6: one scholarship available and Bob mcadoo's only guy that came

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Speaker 6: second guy. Dean Smith told me, henna have a scholarship available.

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Speaker 6: It's a crazy story too. He had because he had

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Speaker 6: one scholarship become available and it's yours if you wanted.

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Speaker 6: My coach came to me was like, Yo, it's yours

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Speaker 6: if you want it. I was like, for real, Oh shit,

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Speaker 6: I don't say no more, say less. So get through

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Speaker 6: the year. Some shit happened or whatever, and I guess

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Speaker 6: he ended up getting sick or whatever he had to retire.

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Speaker 6: So that kind of put that on hold because I

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Speaker 6: wanted to go play for Dean Smith. You know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying. That's the legend of myth, the all the

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Speaker 6: And then it just didn't happened. So I was like Okay,

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Speaker 6: now I'm not going North Carolina, so now I need

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Speaker 6: to go somewhere warm. Beating this dem code. That's so

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Speaker 6: in the end, that was a motherfucker being their crib. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And uh, you know my guy, coach Glenn Sippery and

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Speaker 2: It wasn't legal then, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Oh was it Vegas? It was legal.

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Speaker 2: Everything goes out there, man, and uh I loved it

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Speaker 4: You should never went to way you should have with

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Speaker 8: You got a legendary Vegas story. We gonna relax for

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Speaker 8: With the night ninety nine draft, I was this man

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Speaker 6: I think you know, when you when you set out

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Speaker 6: Understand that, like a lot of people, takes a lot

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Speaker 2: That's that's just is what it is.

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Speaker 6: First, got to go small to make a team, transition

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Speaker 3: Ship.

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Speaker 4: They're resourceful, man, I enjoy life, creative, I enjoyment.

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Speaker 2: You rejoin retirement right now.

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Speaker 4: Clout with these dudes every day.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's fun man, and I get to go on

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Speaker 3: Is all good.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm serious, Like when I when I when I

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Speaker 4: No, it was.

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Speaker 1: The first week was hard, and then after week two

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Speaker 1: we did a podcast, I was straight, oh, okay, okay,

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Speaker 6: No, But like you, I'm the vice president of Retired

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Speaker 6: see the OG I'm all like, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 6: thank you, And like, man, you don't realize the sacrifice

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Speaker 6: they did for us to make it how easy and

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Speaker 6: can you imagine.

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Speaker 4: Playing right now?

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Speaker 6: Dude?

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Speaker 2: Is the ship that they got right now? Dude, I'm

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed talking to the retired players or older players

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Speaker 1: Is hell to have you on the podcast, Like when

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Speaker 1: because we really want to show y'all love, so we

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Speaker 4: The older players appreciate that doing with the current players,

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Speaker 2: I respect that, man. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's man.

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Speaker 1: Especially, like you said, like y'all Phoenix team you especially

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Speaker 4: But it made everybody else adjusted that and especially.

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Speaker 6: me to really truly express and understand it, you know,

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Speaker 2: It and you see it there, you know, I think, uh,

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Speaker 6: Mental toughness is one of the things that I think

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Speaker 6: and I love the diversity, and I love the magnitude

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Speaker 6: the one thing I loved about all the older guys, man,

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Speaker 2: Now they gonna get ran to the fucking gym.

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Speaker 6: And it was just that I was gonnabarrass your ass

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Speaker 6: the thing that that's the mentality I have because I

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Speaker 6: you know, I just feel like, like, why are you

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Speaker 2: Though? And I see it.

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Speaker 6: That's why that'st of the reason I can't coach. I

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Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, Dale, you can play harder than that.

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Speaker 6: We got so many versatile and dynamic players in this

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Speaker 2: You're my enemy. Right now. It ain't gonna be no

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like social media and like players being

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Speaker 2: So personally, listen, sometimes I feel like some of the guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying all the guys.

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Speaker 6: There are some, definitely some great players in the NBA

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Speaker 6: That's real, like their approaches for social media versus the game,

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Speaker 2: Is right in your face. It's up there everybody else

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Speaker 7: Is that Phoenix Sun's team though, that y'all that you

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Speaker 6: Y'all had a motherfucking we was We was tough, but man,

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Speaker 2: Uh, Brendan Haywood. We had we had a will live matrix.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking that Phoenix team over that squad. So I'm

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Speaker 1: Ain't I'm gonna take that Cass team and Bron, Bro,

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Speaker 1: what were you talking about?

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Speaker 4: So you know what though?

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Speaker 2: If I'm on that team though, and.

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Speaker 6: It depends on if I'm starting or not, if I'm

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Speaker 4: You locked up, Bron, that's how you kind of.

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Speaker 6: I'm on a team though, so no, no, no, So

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Speaker 6: I'm on that So if I'm if I'm starting, I

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Speaker 6: which is crazy, but I love it, I respect it.

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Speaker 2: I can do it all.

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Speaker 6: No, but if I'm starting on that team, uh, that

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Speaker 6: that Cleveland team. But if I'm not starting, doing on

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Speaker 6: my way out? Oh, Phoenix were rocking, We're kicking, were

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Speaker 2: I'm hard.

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Speaker 1: I want to get off there. I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you one question, bro. Growing up, when I was little,

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Speaker 1: I used to shoot from down here. How the hell

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Speaker 1: did your ship stay there? You became grown first of all,

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Speaker 1: ain't that long? You should get out of pocket, get

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Speaker 1: it's cool, broy, you made it.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Hey, so let me ask you a question. Though they

443
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Speaker 2: need two people in the league to shoot the same

444
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Speaker 2: I don't know. No, no, you don't.

445
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Speaker 4: I don't.

446
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Speaker 6: So so it's funny because I used to like when

447
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Speaker 6: I played though you know what, you know, what's really

448
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Speaker 6: really really fucked. When I played, this is really messed up.

449
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Speaker 6: They used to pay more attention to my shot than

450
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Speaker 6: when I was doing the floor You and him talking

451
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Speaker 6: about no, no, no, nobody's no job morants to anybody.

452
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Speaker 6: Even so, even look at look at the Splash brothers.

453
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Speaker 6: The best shooter is the NBA history right now, don't

454
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Speaker 6: they don't shoot nowhere?

455
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Speaker 1: Like?

456
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Speaker 2: Do they?

457
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Speaker 1: No?

458
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Speaker 2: Not even close.

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Speaker 6: So so with that being said, though, when I was like,

460
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Speaker 6: when I was playing, this is why a lot of times,

461
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Speaker 6: a lot of guys they feel like it could because

462
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Speaker 6: everybody was labeling me underrated my whole career. I was

463
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Speaker 6: underrated town all this other stuff, and it got to

464
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Speaker 6: the point where it was come of eating up and

465
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Speaker 6: I'm like, why am I underrated? I'm doing shit out

466
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Speaker 6: here at six seven? That most seven for this is

467
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Speaker 6: not doing in the league. You ain't getting twenty and

468
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Speaker 6: ten and two blocks and two stills. He's not doing it,

469
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Speaker 6: you know. So so so so when I sit here

470
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Speaker 6: and you asked me that question, I was like, are

471
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Speaker 6: you trying to defer that to something, get someone else

472
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Speaker 6: the credit or verse not give me my flowers or no,

473
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Speaker 6: no no, we got to figure out no, so doing

474
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Speaker 6: that that's what they did, you kid. I'm talking about.

475
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Speaker 4: The form is what it is.

476
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I just know what you're saying. Is it like when

478
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Speaker 4: you were younger, you just always.

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Speaker 6: Shot because no, dude, I just have a lower arts

480
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Speaker 6: and everybody else she was two in.

481
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Speaker 2: I mean she was one in, just like everybody else.

482
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Speaker 4: That's all good. But we knew you was a killer.

483
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Speaker 4: I know you a killer.

484
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Speaker 1: I obviously played against you, been a fan for years,

485
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Speaker 1: but I was used to just think like damn, because

486
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Speaker 1: you know you you mimic people younger, dude, You mimic people.

487
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Speaker 1: And I used to just wonder, like, then, what was that, Like,

488
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Speaker 1: would you mimic somebody that was when you were younger?

489
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Speaker 1: How did it come about?

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Speaker 6: No, man, I broke my wrists and fingers everything, but like, no,

491
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Speaker 6: it's just natural, dude.

492
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Speaker 2: Then I just kept busting everybody ass with it.

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Speaker 5: Now you're a part of some crazy NBA moments on

494
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Speaker 5: those two people prove. First, we're gonna start with that

495
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Speaker 5: three All Star game, man, one of the most orgonic

496
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Speaker 5: All Star games.

497
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Speaker 4: Of all time.

498
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Speaker 5: Obviously the West got that win, but how was it

499
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Speaker 5: to just be in that environment because that was a

500
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Speaker 5: historic moment for the NBA, especially with Jordan's last All

501
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Speaker 5: Star games.

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Speaker 4: Just to be in that moment and to actually get

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Speaker 4: to play in that moment.

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Speaker 6: So I used to work when I was in Vincent's

505
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Speaker 6: I used to work Jordan camp, so so I was

506
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Speaker 6: in area. We got to it with some footage that

507
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Speaker 6: went viral last couple of years during during the COVID

508
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Speaker 6: of that pick up run like he had. He had

509
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Speaker 6: some amazing pick up runs during his camp. A lot

510
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Speaker 6: of people don't know that you know what I'm saying.

511
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Speaker 6: And when I tell you, uh, like you you will

512
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Speaker 6: she was there. You wish she was there. Everybody who

513
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Speaker 6: went there, who went to his camp came from like

514
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Speaker 6: either University of Arizona at the time, North Carolina. Uh,

515
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Speaker 6: the Dukes, the big the big time guys who you

516
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. They were looking forward to trying

517
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Speaker 6: to be you know, said Jordan or Team Nike and stuff.

518
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Speaker 6: So it was it was truly special. But man, you

519
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Speaker 6: know m J Man, Come on, man, we call him

520
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Speaker 6: Black Jesus Baby. You give the best of Jordan at

521
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Speaker 6: the runs. No, No, A couple of times I was

522
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Speaker 6: on his team, but you know we are like it's

523
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Speaker 6: a couple of Hollis and there everybody. But you know,

524
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Speaker 6: Jordan takes that shit serious. It Look when he played

525
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Speaker 6: pick up dude, he came, We worked out.

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Speaker 1: Man.

527
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Speaker 6: It wasn't like we come in the ball were come

528
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Speaker 6: to work. We're not coming here just to create some content,

529
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Speaker 6: you know, to make everybody look good.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: The ship man, you go on these gyms right now,

532
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Speaker 6: you go back and closed gyms and see the runs

533
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Speaker 6: that we had to you'd be like, what the hell,

534
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Speaker 6: what were doing this? Ain't even nowhere near with the

535
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Speaker 6: man to the competition that these guys are playing in

536
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Speaker 6: there we do. It was fucking war out there, like

537
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Speaker 6: regular season or not. Dude, when we're working out, were

538
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Speaker 6: working out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can tell by y'all all Star games speaking

540
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Speaker 1: like that start game, y'all playing so so man. We

541
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Speaker 1: was watching the highlights the other day before we prepared

542
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Speaker 1: for this and like to see how hard y'all was

543
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Speaker 1: playing compared to this year.

544
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Speaker 6: I was all over him in their last shot, and like, listen,

545
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Speaker 6: there's such things great defense, but such thing is better offense.

546
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Speaker 6: I win them situations though, man, Like he literally barely

547
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Speaker 6: got that off of my fingers. I was really trying

548
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Speaker 6: to his ass up. And you know we still want

549
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Speaker 6: Kobe got fouled by jam Hill Neill next point.

550
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Speaker 2: Kobe would trying to lose.

551
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Speaker 1: Nah.

552
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Speaker 4: I respect them, No, we do.

553
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Speaker 6: This is for real, like Papa's like, Yo, Matrix, go

554
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Speaker 6: get them man, man, Yeah, like.

555
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Speaker 4: You like they don't have. They had no sympathy, bro.

556
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Speaker 4: He going out let go out on top?

557
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Speaker 2: Man, No, no, because he wouldn't let y'all go out

558
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Speaker 2: on top.

559
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Speaker 6: He probably wouldn't want to know what they even The

560
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Speaker 6: best part of that weekend though, you know the best

561
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Speaker 6: part of that weekend Morole Carey singing the national.

562
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Speaker 1: Anthem that that Jordan dress. Talk about it, mercy. I

563
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Speaker 1: wish she's singing hero to me.

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Speaker 2: Boy.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, shock boy, it's a little

566
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Speaker 1: shaky and everything.

567
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Speaker 4: You're crazy.

568
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Speaker 1: But next moment, man, all four Olympics. Man, that team

569
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Speaker 1: that I had a lot of talent.

570
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Speaker 5: Obviously we know that out come with that, but how

571
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Speaker 5: was that entire experience? You know, I represent the country

572
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Speaker 5: and get to play with people in the lead that

573
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Speaker 5: you play and represent the country with.

574
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Speaker 6: So you know that was that was That was a

575
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Speaker 6: crazy year. There's a lot of ship that went on

576
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Speaker 6: a whole lot before we even left the country.

577
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Speaker 4: Here.

578
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Speaker 2: Man, it was a ship show.

579
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Speaker 6: Oh man, it's it's a lot of stuff and a

580
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 6: lot of stuff, a lot of stories that I came

581
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Speaker 6: out about certain things, and that ship was cap like,

582
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Speaker 6: that's the one thing I don't believe. I ain't gonna

583
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Speaker 6: finish here. A lot of you about no boys, they

584
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Speaker 6: don't need to. But so we uh, what happened that

585
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 6: first night we get there, We get to Florida, because

586
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Speaker 6: we all started in Jacksonville, Florida that year, and we

587
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Speaker 6: was hanging out and I was with Bubba Chuck.

588
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Speaker 2: Of course, Oh you know, Bulba.

589
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Speaker 4: Chuck go.

590
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Speaker 2: Giving that, giving that twelve pack of heindekens, he's good

591
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Speaker 2: to go.

592
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Speaker 6: So if y'all know, w Bubba Chuck is ai so

593
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Speaker 6: uh so we all partying and getting it in and

594
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Speaker 6: then like it was the first call, first practice, and

595
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Speaker 6: it was a couple of guys like, I'm not even

596
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Speaker 6: from the people on boy, but a couple of guys.

597
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Speaker 2: I was like, ship, this is the first day. We

598
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Speaker 2: already fucking fucked up already.

599
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Speaker 6: So uh it's me of course, Steph almost on that team,

600
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Speaker 6: and Bubba Chuck that was our two backcourt, and then

601
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Speaker 6: Richard Jefferson's on that team, Lebron Carmelo, the young guys,

602
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Speaker 6: d Wade, all those guys.

603
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Speaker 1: Uh.

604
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Speaker 6: But man, when we left here, we we honestly felt

605
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Speaker 6: good about the trip. It started off pretty good. But

606
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Speaker 6: then man, Andre Miller and uh and Paul got into it.

607
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Speaker 4: Man, damn.

608
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Speaker 2: So you think that's going one downhill?

609
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 6: Man, it was kind of going downhill already and it

610
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 6: was just a it was an interesting mix of guys.

611
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Speaker 2: I think it was.

612
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Speaker 6: It was a great talent wise team, but international player

613
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 6: is totally different and a lot of people don't understand it.

614
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Speaker 6: And you know, I think the months that you gotta

615
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 6: have when you're playing for your country, it's not the

616
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 6: same as you playing for your team. It's a big difference.

617
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Speaker 6: You actually need to elevate. And we were so all

618
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Speaker 6: over the board though, man, and uh, you know, I

619
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Speaker 6: felt I felt bad for Larry Brown, Pop and all

620
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Speaker 6: them because everybody was young and a mixture of guys

621
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Speaker 6: and every guy's some guy's going this way, some guy's

622
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Speaker 6: going that way.

623
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Speaker 4: Man.

624
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Speaker 2: It just I was just like, how were we gonna

625
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Speaker 2: make this work?

626
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Speaker 3: You know?

627
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Speaker 6: And it's like and it wasn't like every people didn't

628
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Speaker 6: really just like each other. It was just more just

629
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Speaker 6: like it's just an imbalance, that makes sense. And it

630
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Speaker 6: sucked that we fell short. I mean, we finished with

631
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Speaker 6: the bronze. No you know what I'm saying. You know

632
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Speaker 6: that last game I had to do it be he

633
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Speaker 6: man out there, shot out there, had the hell of

634
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Speaker 6: the game for us to pull some shit out.

635
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Speaker 1: But yeah, just on the podium, yeah, I was like,

636
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: we gotta get out of here with something for sure.

637
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Speaker 1: But I mean, listen, everything game as easy as you

638
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Speaker 1: think it is, It's not easy for guys to go

639
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Speaker 1: play on the national team and you don't play every year.

640
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Speaker 6: That's why they changed the dynamic after that. After that year,

641
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 6: they start getting the guys together for two years at

642
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 6: least two three years together. They have the same cohesiveness.

643
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 6: Because you're playing against teams now where all these guys

644
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 6: have been playing together for ten years. They've been they've

645
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 6: been groomed, they've been groomed to beat us. Let's they

646
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 6: mindset and that they play a game and play a status.

647
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 6: We don't play. Our NBA game is more of injury

648
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 6: visual sport. When we play overseas. It's fundamentally in simple basketball.

649
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 6: They're not doing all the extra stuff. They just keeping

650
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 6: its simple. They and they, but they know each other.

651
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 6: We know each other from as a competitive standpoint, but

652
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 6: playing with each other it's a it's a it's a

653
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 6: time you got to actually make to each other, and

654
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 6: a trust and knowing.

655
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Speaker 2: What he likes but he doesn't like. And it's so

656
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: many levels to it.

657
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and like you say, with that, the way that

658
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 5: they played basketball, and you've played with some of the

659
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 5: best international players ever, you know what I'm saying, playing

660
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: with Steve Nash and obviously playing with the one that

661
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 5: did numbers down in this city dirt, their approached to

662
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 5: the game and how they played like and man, I've

663
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Speaker 5: been the flashiest, but it was always productive and it

664
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 5: was always buckets.

665
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: Was it a lot easier playing with a style of

666
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: player like that?

667
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 6: See, the team was different, my role was different. So

668
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 6: so one of the things I've been able to adjust

669
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 6: to I was just the team I have. I mean,

670
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 6: if you follow me, you know that. So like when

671
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 6: I got here, they need me to do everything that

672
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 6: everybody else gonna do. So so we had a great

673
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 6: shooting team, you know what I'm saying. So, but they

674
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 6: ain't nobody slashing and nobody just locking motherfuckers on the

675
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 6: defense and be doing the small other things. And and

676
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 6: that's that's how we com froment each other. When they

677
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 6: needed me to score our score, when they need me

678
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 6: to lock somebody up and lock them up, and it's

679
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 6: just oh I didn't need me to facilitate. I was

680
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 6: able to do that as well too. So it just

681
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 6: depends on what we need and who we who we

682
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 6: was playing. And I think that's That's the one thing

683
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 6: about the game at you don't see a lot, you

684
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 6: don't see a lot of everything.

685
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: It's assistent.

686
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 6: The same thing now when you when you see the

687
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 6: real good teams, they're adjusted to different variations.

688
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: On the court. And doing that game, you know those

689
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: that was the reason why we was able to win

690
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: that championship.

691
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 6: We knew, we knew, we knew how to hold people accountable,

692
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 6: and we knew how to adjust and we played to

693
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 6: the level of our our apartments. That's how good we were.

694
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: Like with't nobody beating us that you don't give a

695
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 6: fuck who we played? Uh, And it's just that sister

696
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 6: Chalon don't get enough credit either. Why was amazing? T

697
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 6: Hy and Brendan the the tannel between t Y and

698
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 6: Brendan Haywood. We had two seven footers that was meeting

699
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 6: you at the rim, Damn bro And like you know,

700
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 6: Tyson was a lot more verbal and aggressive than Brendan,

701
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 6: but Brendan was out there. He was just he was

702
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 6: sitting there waiting for you to get to the rim.

703
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 6: And like that's the thing. But you got guys locked

704
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 6: up on the perimeter. We locked in me j Shaun

705
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 6: Stevenson j kidd all of us, even Dirt, even Dirt

706
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 6: got his big ass down, was defending you know what

707
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So like when you when you buy into

708
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 6: that that team concept, that's when you and you and

709
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 6: you challenging Mary, why you elevating each other, That's what

710
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 6: that's what it's about.

711
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: And like you said, I mean the Miami he came

712
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: in Big three Super Towers a team.

713
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 5: But you can tell the difference between the teams of

714
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 5: y'all with the mindset, the mental focus.

715
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: Obviously y'all be in vetered. Y'all was locked in.

716
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 5: Wasn't nothing to go, y'all, and you could tell when

717
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 5: they got rid up, y'all was gonna take it like

718
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: Jason Terry getting tacked, like come on, Like y'all was

719
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 5: a different level locked in.

720
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 6: Man, listen, man, you go back and I h you don't.

721
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 6: You don't get a lot of time to reflect on

722
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 6: your career while you're playing, because you're living in it.

723
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 6: You're when you get time to really reflect on what

724
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 6: you did in your career and the things that you

725
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 6: did in this game and just look back and like,

726
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 6: holy shit, like it was a hell of run. And

727
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 6: that run right there, Oh my god. D Wade told

728
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 6: us to me after we won a championship. He's like,

729
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 6: and this, enjoy this moment, but you not don't really

730
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 6: know what you did until about a month later.

731
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: He wasn't lying.

732
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 6: When all the dust and everything kind of that's calmed

733
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 6: down that summer, you know, I was doing all kind

734
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 6: of parties out here there. But uh, but when that

735
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 6: dust selled down, I got a chense to really reflect

736
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: on that run we did, dude, Man, that was a

737
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 6: hell of a fucking run.

738
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: We beat some great teams, great team ship. The most deep.

739
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 6: The deepest team in the league that year, behind behind

740
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 6: us and Miami was Portland.

741
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: Woman had a lick.

742
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 6: People would be like, listen, do't let me grow on

743
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 6: the Lakers with defending champions.

744
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they wasn't as deep as Portland.

745
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 6: Portland had ten guys dude that they that it literally

746
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 6: could be starting on all the teams, you know what

747
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And Brendan roy was Kurt Kirk kind of

748
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 6: hurt at the time, but you still come back. But

749
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 6: he still had one good game that was like, you know,

750
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 6: kave you the flashes of what he could possibly do.

751
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 6: But we just we just kept rising to the challenge. Man,

752
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 6: and it's like, you know, once we got that, we

753
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 6: was locked in like that. Man, wasn't nobody stopping that ship?

754
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: What was that party?

755
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: Like like winning in Miami then going to Live and

756
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: spending the big bag?

757
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: So what was that like?

758
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: So dude, it was lit.

759
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 6: You know, I think you know, Live was really kind

760
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 6: of kind of coming back a love at that time

761
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: was when we were first really back opening it up

762
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 6: and they was doing Sundays there. I mean, ship, dude,

763
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 6: we got nabbage. We turned it out keeping about that

764
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 6: big ass over extra magnum or whatever, that a thousand

765
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 6: dollars bottle whatever, Like I had two people pouring a

766
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 6: bottle poorn it. Man, Listen, you could just drip that

767
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 6: whole thing on me and it's all just drinking. And

768
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 6: it was just it was just I felt like it

769
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 6: was just doubtas it took overminded me that night and

770
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: we was there, everybody was locked in and it was

771
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 6: like a pause.

772
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: Everybody said, you can drimp that big thing on me.

773
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, I fuck what you made.

774
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 5: But that was.

775
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: I was waiting. So look, we've been scarce metal world

776
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 4: beat up a song.

777
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 7: Hey, I didn't want to fuck up your story, but

778
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 7: I was.

779
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: Like, cut the fucking.

780
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Pause, you know what.

781
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: I needed a drink, but's gotta be fired. Though, to

782
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: win the ship is celebrating somebody else's city as far.

783
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I snug the NBA championship out right. It was

784
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: literally this many people at our party.

785
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: No for any boy, when the kids, I said, there,

786
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I gotta throw my own championship party.

787
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: Damn throw a party.

788
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: No.

789
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't fall back to the brook Lopez walked in

790
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: with his jersey on. I said, damn, it's just being

791
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: Brooke with no vibes in there for Brooks, with no

792
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: vibes for nobody. It was like everybody from the front office.

793
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I've seen the Dallas Mavericks win

794
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: and I seen Sean Mary and getting the drink port

795
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: on them.

796
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 7: Did you know though, at the beginning of the year

797
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 7: that you had a chance though, I mean, I know

798
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 7: you always want to play the win, but.

799
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 6: So look, every team has aspirations to win championship every

800
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 6: year training camp come.

801
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: Every team has that goal that's coming in training camp.

802
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: That's the focus.

803
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 6: But guess what, it's only about handful of those teams

804
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 6: actually gonna speak that into the existence. You know what

805
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Reality in perceptions two different things.

806
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: Reality.

807
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: Most of these teams know they ain't gonna they ain't

808
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 6: gonna do shit. Now now the parody in the league

809
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 6: now today is totally different. But back then, though, listen,

810
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 6: this is how strong our team was. My cousin's not here.

811
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 6: We're sitting in my living room when I was living

812
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 6: in Preston Hollow at the time, and he was like,

813
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 6: he looked at our roster. He literally looked at our roster.

814
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 6: He was like, it's like, cuz, y're gonna win championship

815
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 6: this year. Y'all gonna do what y'all need to do.

816
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: Y'all win championship. I was like, you know what, shit,

817
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 6: cause you you kind of I believe you're you right,

818
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 6: I'm looking at this motherfucker like, yeah, I'm looking at

819
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 6: our roster because we ain't had training camp yet. So

820
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 6: we got some new guys that, you know, some older

821
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 6: guys who came in. But like, I'm like, you know

822
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 6: what you did, all right, we go out and do

823
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 6: what we need to do. We're gonna win this motherfucker.

824
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 6: So fast forward, training camp starts, we are in Orlando

825
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 6: playing them for preseason. So D Steve host hosted half

826
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 6: the team at the house and have a barbek with

827
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 6: the crib. He got atm in the.

828
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: Liver room and Ship. Yeah, so we there. He got

829
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: a guy tattoo.

830
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 6: Guy came over and we grilling and everybody's just chopping

831
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 6: him talking ship and Jeed was like, Yo.

832
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: Let me get this.

833
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and get this motherfucking championship tattoo on

834
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 2: my arm. I'm like what. He's like, yeah, we winning

835
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: this bitch this year.

836
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 6: I was like, oh shit, okay, okay no. So he

837
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 6: literally got chapmanship, chatted on his arm, breaked it in there.

838
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 6: This preseason. We ain't I remember that. I didn't know

839
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 6: I know what that happened. I didn't know that was

840
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 6: pre season. We ain't played one game this season yet.

841
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 6: So I was like, oh shit, we locked in.

842
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 4: Let's do this ship yet. I got you. Let's do this.

843
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 6: So we come up the gates rolling, you know, we

844
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: Korong go down within I think fifteen games. Tough one,

845
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 6: tough one, but like man, we we studied rolling and

846
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 6: everybody just locked in with each other. Man like of course,

847
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 6: you know the season is so long. I think we

848
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 6: finished what third or fourth that year, something like that

849
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 6: in the Western Conference. And uh, but it didn't matter

850
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 6: who we messed up with. We knew we we had

851
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 6: eighteen game winn the streets that season and you know

852
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 6: we we we.

853
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: Was doing it.

854
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 6: So the West has always been strong like that though

855
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 6: for the most part, for the longest of my career,

856
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 6: we everybody was who made postseason was winning fifty plus games.

857
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 6: So but anyway, we get through the year and we

858
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 6: and we play Portland that first round and man, I

859
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 6: tell you, we was locked in and we looked at

860
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 6: each other's eyes and it was a there was a

861
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 6: filling in the locker room, the whole, the whole, the

862
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 6: whole dynamic and whole culture in our environment.

863
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: When you walked into that locker room, you knew that

864
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: we was on a mission.

865
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 4: For sure.

866
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 6: You you got you would have felt that energy and

867
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 6: got that energy. And with galls of all the naysayers

868
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 6: and the media and ship, they kept talking. They picked

869
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 6: port they picked something. They picked Portland win that series.

870
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: Ye are the favorites to pick the Lakers to win,

871
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: ok okay see to win.

872
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 6: They picked Miami win everything. I was like, I tell you,

873
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 6: the motherfuckers on no shit about basketball because we beat

874
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 6: the dog shit on everybody.

875
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah I did, Yeah, I did.

876
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: No facts.

877
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: I got a question for you, and we got a

878
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 5: fan question. They wouldn't know if it's just true or not.

879
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Obviously we know what happened.

880
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 5: You know they got about a phoenix.

881
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: Is it true there was a possibility that you could

882
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: have went to Boston?

883
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 6: Yes, oh, okay, yes, So doing that process. Right before

884
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 6: KG went, I was getting calls. So so you know,

885
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 6: this being the NBA, there's a lot of people calling

886
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 6: about accident about people that don't mean they up the trade.

887
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 6: It's part of the business, part of the game. So

888
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 6: like people can call in crob or anything like. And

889
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 6: they asked him it was calling Boston was calling like crazy,

890
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 6: and uh I was like, uh the ball is They

891
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 6: was like, Boston's calling about to Sean and we ain't

892
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 6: entertaining it.

893
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: Don't worry about You're not going anywhere.

894
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, that's enough, said, I'm not even

895
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 6: thinking about it, you know, And of course that stuff

896
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 6: end up making the trip on down to you here

897
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 6: and there.

898
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: But like listen, it's part of the business. Get it,

899
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: eat it, and then uh, they.

900
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 6: Treated for KG afterwards they figured out the KG they

901
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 6: I guess he agreed to it and that's when he

902
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 6: went and left, but I didn't. I wouldn't like I

903
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 6: would have entertained it, and I had to agree to it.

904
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: Before the show, we was talking about obviously I don't

905
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: I love basketball, but I like to talk about the

906
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: other stuff. So we were talking about the cities you

907
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: played in, and I was like, Bro, you're a lucky man. Bro,

908
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: you playing some fire cities you gouts Phoenix, Miami, Toronto, Dallas,

909
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: just to name a few.

910
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: Like what was your we in Dallas? On? Neverman? But

911
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: what what was your favorite city? Like?

912
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 6: So so honestly, man, all of them was different phases

913
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 6: of my career, like I was. My mind said, was

914
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 6: totally different every team I went to so uh but

915
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 6: you know what, man, it was it sucked being and

916
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 6: the team was losing.

917
00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: But I tell them all the time, So Toronto, you

918
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: should have been a rapping my boy. Come on, man,

919
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: I was trying to get in Toronto with all my heart, but.

920
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 6: You didn't want to pay them taxes though I would Texas, man,

921
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 6: Texas is crazy there.

922
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: I was hoping I was on the minimum.

923
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: Man. Some see do as a motherfucker boy lord a mercy.

924
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: Remember this is right now, the real Matrix. Yeah, how

925
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: did you get that nickname though? The Knny Smith? This

926
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: is my Kimmy Smith. Yeah, first game ever, preseason? We uh,

927
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: we're playing, so you didn't get a chance of playing

928
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: the forum.

929
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 6: No, I didn't play regular season, but my first year

930
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: was a last preseason tournament they had before they closed

931
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 6: it stable season. Staples Center open beginning of the season,

932
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: so we in there and they had a tournament preseason tournament.

933
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 6: It was me, it was Phoenix Lakers, of course I

934
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 6: think Sacramento a couple of another team in there.

935
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: So every year he did it.

936
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: So first game ever, preseason, dude, I get a still

937
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 6: block and won all in like.

938
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: A sequence, and Kenny smift' is like, oh my god,

939
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: you see that, he's the Matrix.

940
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: And that was it.

941
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 6: Everywhere I was going, everybody was calling me the Matrix.

942
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 6: And you know, Kenny Smith's always been the guy who

943
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 6: get everybody nicknames, and that's it. I became a household name.

944
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: That's far getting nickname. Those first NBA games I gotta drink.

945
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, we.

946
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: Ain't drink this one, bro, that's on you.

947
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: That's watering that though lightly over there, got over the house.

948
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 2: Big Sean, and I will not be taking no drinks

949
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: from yours.

950
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: That's oh no, that's crazy.

951
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: Obviously you still watch ball. Uh what young players you say,

952
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 5: you can see like remind you of yourself.

953
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 6: So you know, uh, you know doing the drift every

954
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 6: year they try to play young game. I'm company guys

955
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 6: to guys that played before them. You know, men, listen,

956
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 6: I don't I don't see nobody out there there.

957
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: See.

958
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 6: I used to say Kawhi a little bit because he

959
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 6: I feel like he never got tired of the court.

960
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: And he plays both enses of floor, you know.

961
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 6: But uh, you know, I just think, uh I was

962
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 6: a lot more athletic than and jumping and rebounding than

963
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 6: Kawhi is. But you know for this engine effort, you know,

964
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 6: versatile small forward that you know, it's like a little

965
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 6: bit of this, a little bit of that, you know

966
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

967
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: But you know, I just feel like I was, uh

968
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: one of a time, man. This is what it is.

969
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like to me, like defensively, you were like Draymond.

970
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: But offensively you were like your own type of person

971
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: because you can run picking rolls with the ball, or

972
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: you can set them slip out dunk, you can hit

973
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: the corner, three, you can shoot, you could attack off

974
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: the dribble, So you weren't nobody really played like you

975
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: on offense. Now, No, offensively, you were like Draymond because

976
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: you can go one through five. I remember when even

977
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: when you was in Cleveland, you were switching all the

978
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: boss greens.

979
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 6: So so you know, it's funny we talk about that,

980
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 6: we talk about the versatility defenders and stuff, and I

981
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 6: was like, you know, Draymond, and I think I love

982
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 6: his to nastally, love his energy, love his heart, but

983
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 6: I still think I'm always the way better defender than

984
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 6: he was. And the reason I say that is because

985
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 6: when I had to guard point guard point, when when

986
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 6: I actually guarded you, I guarded you for the whole game.

987
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 6: I didn't it wasn't no, no, no, a few minutes

988
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 6: here and there or trying to spread somebody.

989
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 4: I guarded.

990
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 6: I locked in with you guys for the whole game,

991
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 6: and like most guys ain't doing that. So it's easy

992
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 6: for and it's way simpler for guys to do with

993
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 6: every possession and switch. Everybody switched now. But I mean

994
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 6: I can guard somebody for a quarter. It's easy to

995
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 6: do that, and let me guard that guy for the

996
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 6: whole game, though most guys is not doing it. I'm

997
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 6: the only person ever in NBA history to do that.

998
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: Only person.

999
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Nobody guard No. One through five, not the whole game.

1000
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: That's a question. Yeah, obviously, you know what I'm saying.

1001
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: You guarded some of the best in the league. Who

1002
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: is some of the people gave you, like the most

1003
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: trouble so so.

1004
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 6: Early in my career, one of one of my favorite

1005
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 6: players was Jamal Masburn. He was a big body, small

1006
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 6: forward that can handle the ball and just he was.

1007
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 6: He wasn't very athletic, but he was shifty and very

1008
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 6: creative of getting his shot off.

1009
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: Man, he had a you know what I'm saying game

1010
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: to him that was so smooth man, you know.

1011
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 6: Giving me a shout to Jamal man he was one

1012
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 6: of my my guys helped me elevated, you know what

1013
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 6: I'm saying. But at that time, you know, shoot, all

1014
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 6: the small for us was pretty pretty talented.

1015
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: Time.

1016
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: I was like guard mellow Melo.

1017
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: That's a real still.

1018
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: So Carmelo Carlo was tough. I was already three years

1019
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: in the league. I think I was.

1020
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 6: I think I was three four years in the league

1021
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 6: already when he came in. But man, he was, he

1022
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 6: was tough because you know, he was he was.

1023
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: He was man.

1024
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 6: He was trying to he was trying to score every

1025
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 6: time he got the ball. Man like he ain't he

1026
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 6: ain't believe in passing the rock. So you know, once

1027
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 6: you got him, like, man, yo, we didn't go at

1028
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 6: it for sure.

1029
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 4: Well, I think we should be talking about Hall of Fame.

1030
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: Right ship, you know you're talking about Yeah, go ahead,

1031
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: I think you should be a Hall of Famer, Like

1032
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: with all the accolades you got, all the things you

1033
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: did playing basketball, like from college on, I think you

1034
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: got a Hall of Fame career of me personally.

1035
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: And shout out to the Phinney sounds retired and number.

1036
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, that's that's what's up. That's

1037
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: what's that's the start.

1038
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 6: You know, man, you know, I've been having this conversation

1039
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 6: people asking me that a lot, and I thank you

1040
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 6: because you know, at the end of the day, but

1041
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 6: you're not the ones, you know, the ones who's picking.

1042
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 6: So like, a lot of things are not in your control,

1043
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 6: but one of the things that y'are. And we all

1044
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 6: cogree that though when you when you when you earn something,

1045
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 6: you feel like you should get that reward, right versus

1046
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 6: it's like nobody going somebody come in here, y'all doing

1047
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 6: the job, and I'm gonna pay you when I feel

1048
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 6: like it. That's the mentality was sometimes when things go

1049
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 6: on and you know, one of the things, I've been

1050
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 6: truly blessed, man, I take noneing for granted. I'm able

1051
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 6: to do things that a lot of people will never

1052
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 6: get the chance to do. You know, I'm seeing the

1053
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 6: world and I don't take noneing for granted.

1054
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: And like.

1055
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 6: I'm okay, I know what I did to this game.

1056
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I know, I know exactly

1057
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 6: what I'm punting. I left on this game, and who

1058
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 6: I am. You know, I'm comfortable, man, And that's it.

1059
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of that I can't control

1060
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 6: with nobody else too. I only can control myself.

1061
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: So that your peers know that she was one of

1062
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: them guys, man, So I wouldn't be surprised down the road.

1063
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 4: It happened for you, but your peers definitely know you, and.

1064
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: Most importantly we know too, no doubt for show for show.

1065
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: And on that note, we will get about of here.

1066
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 4: Matrix. Appreciate you. Slide on this big.

1067
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: Guy, love love Max the noise one time hen see arena.

1068
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right.

1069
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: Before we get up out of here, were gonna have

1070
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: a couple questions from the crowd.

1071
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 4: Ain't working, Mike check Questions from the crowd.

1072
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: Questions, questions, Hey, Sean, Mary, who is the hardest person

1073
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: you had the guard in the NBA?

1074
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 6: The hardest person I ever had a guard in the

1075
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 6: NBA was probably Shock No, no, no, seriously no, but

1076
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 6: anybody who uh, anybody who was who's gonna be that?

1077
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 6: Who was the mean guy who actually was a tough

1078
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 6: guard man. It's just about me preparing and trying to

1079
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 6: make it hard for him, hey Sean. Uh, when it

1080
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 6: comes to free agency, is there when you're talking to

1081
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 6: your agent, is there like a minimum.

1082
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: You will take or it's pretty mu up to you

1083
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: what you want to do.

1084
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 6: So so so look, I was never officially a free agent.

1085
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 6: So when I came, when I came to Dallas.

1086
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: I was.

1087
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 6: I was signed. It was a sign, sign and seal deal,

1088
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 6: so I was under contract currently. It was a sign

1089
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 6: and trade, so I couldn't. I didn't actually go out

1090
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 6: and test the market. That's one thing I never did.

1091
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 6: So everywhere I went, I typically was under contract. The

1092
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 6: last year that I went and played in Cleveland do

1093
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 6: it was between Cleveland and Indiana, And that's a year

1094
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 6: Paul George broke his league and they needed they had

1095
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 6: a they had a player exemption. They was gonna give

1096
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 6: me whatever that was. I think it was five or

1097
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Speaker 6: six million dollars or whatever. But at that at that

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00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 6: point in my career, I wanted to play for a

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00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 6: championship and I was like, withn't going up body unless

1100
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 6: I saw myself being in position to win another championship

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00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 6: before I retire. And that's why the reason I went

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00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 6: to Cleveland. But free agency, man, Listen, it's a different

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00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 6: different it's a different thing.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: I didn't get a chance to really experience it like

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00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 6: a lot of guys did. But listen, I knew I

1107
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 6: was coming here. Jay Kidd, Jeff Dirk, Cuban, all of

1108
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 6: them called me like, yo, you you're that final piece,

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00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 6: we need to win a championship, and it was like, Yo,

1110
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 6: we're gonna make this happen. I was like, hey, because

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00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 6: at the time Cuban and my my man, my my

1112
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 6: agent Dan Fakan were really good friends. So it's all

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00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 6: a great, a great scenario and they I got a

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00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 6: phone call like the soon as I became rephraging, like no,

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00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 6: you can trade it. Sign trade because Brian Klangeol was

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00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 6: a GM at the Raptists at the time, so that

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00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 6: was my guy from Phoenix. So it was just it's

1118
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 6: just all worked out and signed trade five year deal

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Speaker 6: from the Dallas frevs Shoes A hoo band oh man

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Speaker 6: of So it was probably my pe shocks M hmm,

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00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 6: yeah they are. They're pretty dope. Uh yeah, yeah, they

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Speaker 6: my pe shot.

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Speaker 4: I had some.

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Speaker 6: I have variations of shocks and uh I had some.

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00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 6: Definitely some players that was pretty dog.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 2: The piggy back off of what es said.

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Speaker 4: You know you're a dog.

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Speaker 9: You could drop a dog off of any fight you're

1130
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 9: gonna battle. Two part question, who is somebody you you

1131
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 9: didn't play with, but you could take it. You know

1132
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 9: you would take the war with anybody. You know, you

1133
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 9: take them to war, any war, and somebody you didn't

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Speaker 9: play with. Who's two people that you would take the

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Speaker 9: war with? So who the people I took? Okay, the

1136
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 9: first one is the people I will want to go

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Speaker 9: a world with right now? Oh shit, I mean I

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00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 9: would running back with the team we wanted in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 9: I mean, oh, I mean, listen, you know it's funny.

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00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 9: I came in with J Kid and Penny hardway back

1141
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 9: for two thousand Phoenix, So listen, those two are special guys, man,

1142
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 9: you know, and listen, I it wasn't it was it

1143
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 9: was meant to me and J Kidd to reunite. Dude, like, seriously,

1144
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 9: though we are playing with JA Kidd. He elevated me early.

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00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 6: And told me to do things on the floor without

1146
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 6: like and just gave me the gave me the green

1147
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 6: light when I when I came in my rookie season,

1148
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 6: he was like, you got it go. And we we

1149
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 6: only played two years together in Phoenix earlier. Then we

1150
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 6: came back here and won that championship and it was

1151
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 6: dope only on the person I probably would love to

1152
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 6: play with that I didn't get to play with too. Man,

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00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 6: I actually had a chance to do it, but they

1154
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 6: didn't have no money. It was Lakers Kobe, So of

1155
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 6: course m J was already going out the league when

1156
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 6: I came in. You know, he was on his way out.

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00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 6: Uh but uh with Kobe though, So it was it

1158
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 6: was a situation there that it was. It could have

1159
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 6: it could have blossomed into something, but it justn' it

1160
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 6: just didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: That's good, big dog. Hey, who gave you that? Welcome

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00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 4: to the NBA moment? Oh Mookie Blaylock, Atlanta legend.

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Speaker 2: Mookie Blaylock.

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Speaker 6: If y'all don't know who he was, he was a

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00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 6: hell of a point guard man, and I ain't gonna

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00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie to this ship was so crazy.

1167
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 6: So I got the ball, I'm drimming down the court right,

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Speaker 6: and everybody was talking about how quicks his hands were,

1169
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 6: Pauls so you know, so like I'm literally driven, I'm

1170
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Speaker 6: thinking I'm about to lay it up, right, he didn't

1171
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 6: already stole that bit from me, And.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yo, did he just do that? But like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: his hands was unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Clap it up, y'all.

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Speaker 3: For the Club five twenty podcast The Matrix, Sean Marion

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Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks leavinging champion. Also beat out to Jeff T,

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00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 3: DJ Wells, Bishop be Hen, You don't gotta leave.

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00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: Plenty of drinks, plenty of food.

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00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: Mix it mingle, clap it up one more time here

1180
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Speaker 3: to see a.

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Speaker 2: Ring in the trick with deep appreciate Sean for coming

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Speaker 2: out for real.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Love that