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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jared of

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Speaker 1: the Fox News Channel, filling in for Sean, who has

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Speaker 1: a few days off, and he certainly deserves it among

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Speaker 1: the hardest working men in television and radio. So Sean,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a good time. It's a new year, folks,

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Speaker 1: and it's a new decade, and it's a new presidential

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Speaker 1: election coming up to the chagrin of the Trump paiding media,

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Speaker 1: and they're vengeful, rapacious co conspirators like Nancy Pelosi, Chucky Schumer,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Nadler, and the chronically dishonest Adam Schiff, not to

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Speaker 1: mention the gaggle of Democratic presidential candidates who are bereft

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Speaker 1: of any good ideas that can compete with Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: economic record. The president is poised to be re elected

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Speaker 1: to another four year term. And why do I say that,

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Speaker 1: Because historically we know that people tend to vote their

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Speaker 1: do endorse the status quo. They reject change, change that

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Speaker 1: And there's no reason why people shouldn't be self interested

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Speaker 1: in their vote that's what democracy is all about. What's

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Speaker 1: good for individuals collectively is good for the nation. And

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Speaker 1: as we began twenty twenty, the stock market continues to

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Speaker 1: hit all time high, as your four oh one K

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Speaker 1: now than ever before. Consumer confidence has hit a twenty

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Speaker 1: year high, Unemployment is at a fifty year low, the

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Speaker 1: down substantially, in large part because wages continue to rise

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Speaker 1: GDP and consumer spending are incredibly strong. And whether you

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Speaker 1: like him or not, Donald Trump deserves credit for much

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Speaker 1: of this because he kept his promises. He cut taxes

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Speaker 1: to invest and expand. He rolled back the honorous and

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Speaker 1: expensive regulations that were choking businesses to death. And what

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Speaker 1: did Democrats have to offer? They want to reverse course.

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Speaker 1: They want to raise taxes, not cut them. They want

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Speaker 1: to reinstate those regulations. They want to undertake trillion dollar

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Speaker 1: ideas is like the Green New Deal and Medicare for

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Speaker 1: All that would bankrupt the federal government and lead inexorably

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Speaker 1: to inflation, maybe recession and Frankly, Americans are smarter than that,

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Speaker 1: and it bodes well for President Trump's reelection, and it

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Speaker 1: bodes poorly for Democrats and the complicit media who aid

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Speaker 1: and abet them. Come November, if Donald Trump is reelected,

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Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow's head will explode. And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: miss that one. Rachel Maddow Prime Time MSNBC, who spent

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Speaker 1: much of Donald Trump's first term claiming that he's a

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Speaker 1: Manchurian candidate, Putin's puppet acting as a covert Kremlin asset.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen, and if the president did that day

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Speaker 1: rather than our own, well, then a lot that has

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Speaker 1: previously been inexplicable is now explicable. Is our president subordinate

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Speaker 1: foreign government and a foreign leader? The worst case scenario

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Speaker 1: It would change the world. Is if you know, Russia

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Speaker 1: useful idiots like James Clapper, Obama's director of National Intelligence,

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Speaker 1: For example, in her monologue on August twenty third, twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: Matdow stated with unreserved certainty that quote nothing in the

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Speaker 1: dossier has been overtly disproved since it was first posted online, Right, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: malevolent Mattow from peddling her phantasm. Here she is September fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: another example. July second, twenty eighteen, in a typically obtuse monologue,

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Speaker 1: Mattow informed her viewers that quote, nothing in the dossier

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Speaker 1: The Russia Hoax, disproving the main accusations in the phony dossier.

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't alone in that sugilus reporting by my

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Speaker 1: colleague John Solomon, the tenacity of my friend Sean Hannity

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Speaker 1: day after, on his radio show, This radio show, on

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Speaker 1: his television show on Fox News, showed that the dossier

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Speaker 1: was demonstrably false. There was no evidence of a criminal

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Speaker 1: collusion conspiracy with Moscow. The Mueller Report would so conclude,

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Speaker 1: and of course, when it was released April of this year,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. So did a contrite Mattow apologize

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Speaker 1: for misleading her audience with reckless reporting and analysis? Of

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Speaker 1: course she didn't. Was she fired from MSNBC? No way.

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Speaker 1: There were too many other people at the network who

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Speaker 1: the same hoax, the Matdow hoax. On April fifteen, twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: he stated and quote, so far with its dossier, nothing

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Speaker 1: yet has been proven untrue. Nice job, Chuck. You have

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Speaker 1: earned coveted membership in the flat Earth society. And it's

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Speaker 1: not just the dopes at MSNBC and NBC. The folks

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Speaker 1: over at CNN adopted the dossier as scripture. Jim Shudo

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Speaker 1: who runs the joint. People like Rachel Maddow have no conscience,

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Speaker 1: no ability to admit fault or failure. She expressed not

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Speaker 1: Media critic Eric Wimple of The Washington Post Maybe you

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Speaker 1: that she rooted for the dossier to be true, and

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Speaker 1: In what Upside Down World? Does that happen, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you it's the world of liberal dominated journalism. They never

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Speaker 1: maybe some prosecutions. We'll have him wag in a little

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Speaker 1: bit on the media as well. In my new book,

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Speaker 1: witch Hunt. I opened chapter six, which is entitled the

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Speaker 1: Scarecrow replies, I don't know, but some people without brains

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Speaker 1: people like Rachel Maddow perfectly. People without brains do an

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Speaker 1: awful lot of talking. Rachel Maddow should have read both

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Speaker 1: my books The Russia Hoax and witch Hunt, because it

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity. Very pleased to have with us today. A

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Speaker 1: and assistant Special Watergate prosecutor John Sale, who is one

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Speaker 1: of the best lawyers in America. For my money and John,

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Thanks for being with us in my pleasure. Greg,

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Speaker 1: happy to you. You know, I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: a few questions about John Durham and Michael Horowitz. Now,

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Speaker 1: Horowitz is the Inspector General at the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: else that was on the board, if not more. In

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Speaker 1: the list that you gave me of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: you're on that board, you did not list the fact

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Speaker 1: that you were the son of the of course, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: what role do you think that played. I think that

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Speaker 1: it is impossible for me to be on any of

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Speaker 1: the boards that I just mentioned without saying that I'm

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Speaker 1: the son of the vice President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: You were paid fifty thousand dollars a month for your position. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm a private citizen. One thing that I don't have

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Speaker 1: to do is sit here and open my kimono as

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Speaker 1: it relates to how much money I make or make

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Speaker 1: or did or didn't. But it's all been reported. If

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Speaker 1: your last name wasn't Biden, do you think you would

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Speaker 1: have been asked to be on the board of Barisma.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, probably not. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of things that would have

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Speaker 1: happened in my life that if my last name wasn't Biden. Yeah, no, kidding,

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Speaker 1: that is Hunter Biden, And I don't think it's fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand a month he got from Barisma for a job

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Speaker 1: upon which he held no qualifications to have. It was

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Speaker 1: more like eighty three thousand. But we'll put that question

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Speaker 1: to Peter Schweizer, who joins US now, who is Government

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Speaker 1: Accountability Institute President, an author of Secret Empires as well

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Speaker 1: as Clinton Cash and he joins US now. Peter, it's

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Speaker 1: always great talking to you. Thanks for taking the time. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure. Greg, great to be on with you.

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Speaker 1: So how much was he actually getting from Barisma? Hunter Biden?

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Speaker 1: He was getting eighty three thousand, three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: three dollars a month, which, if my am math is accurate,

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Speaker 1: as a million dollars a year. And he got that

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Speaker 1: beginning in April of twenty fourteen. You know what happened

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Speaker 1: is his business partner, Devin Archer, went to the White

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Speaker 1: House in April of twenty fourteen. We know that based

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Speaker 1: on White House visitors logs, and we don't know what

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Speaker 1: the meeting was about, but Devin Archer, Hunter's business partner

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Speaker 1: was there for you know, five or six hours meeting

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Speaker 1: with a vice president, and that we know. In the

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Speaker 1: days that followed, literally the days that followed, a Barisimus

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Speaker 1: started depositing transfers into the account of Devin Archer and

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, and they were each getting eighty three thousand,

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Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty three dollars a month. And that

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Speaker 1: is way out of proportion. You know, if you sit

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Speaker 1: on the board of Exxon or other corporations like that

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Speaker 1: in the United States that are much larger, much more legitimate,

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Speaker 1: sitting on that boards, more demanding, you're getting paid a

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Speaker 1: fraction of that. So this is a is a sweetheart

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Speaker 1: deal of sweetheart deals that or Biden had and Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden had been appointed as the point person by the

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Speaker 1: Obama administration in Ukraine. And at one point in Time's

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Speaker 1: he's urging Ukraine too, if I recall correctly, increase their

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Speaker 1: natural gas production. At the same time his son is

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Speaker 1: sitting on the board of the biggest natural gas company

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine. Right, that's right. I mean, Greg, you talk

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Speaker 1: in your book, which Hunt, about how the machine ree

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Speaker 1: of government was twisted and distorted to to get political enemies,

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Speaker 1: in this case, Donald Trump, in this case you're talking

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Speaker 1: about twisting the machinery of government to benefit your family.

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Speaker 1: I talk about this and call this corruption by proxy.

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Speaker 1: In other words, Joe Biden is not going to be

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Speaker 1: stupid enough to take money from Ukrainians himself. He's not

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Speaker 1: going to take money from the Chinese government himself. But

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Speaker 1: if his son in effect serves as a proxy, which

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Speaker 1: is pretty clear what happened here. I mean, the two

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Speaker 1: countries where Hunter Biden cashed in the most were Ukraine

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Speaker 1: and China, and those are the two countries that it

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Speaker 1: happens to be Joe Biden, as Vice president was point

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Speaker 1: person on for policy. You know, that's either one hell

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Speaker 1: of a coincidence or it speaks to the issue that

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Speaker 1: these foreign entities knew exactly what they were paying for

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Speaker 1: when they were paying Hunter Biden. And you know, most

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Speaker 1: people I think out in the country see that and

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Speaker 1: know that it's a big denial game. Still in Washington, Dco.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing inappropriate about this. If this happened in your

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Speaker 1: small town, or if this happened elsewhere, people see it.

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Speaker 1: They know that the gig is up. They know what's

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Speaker 1: going on, and it's just Joe Biden's continue to assist

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Speaker 1: insistence that there's no connection between his son's business activities

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Speaker 1: and his venturing into new fields where he has no

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Speaker 1: background in either China or Ukraine or energy private equity

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Speaker 1: just speaks to that fact, and I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to really hurt him here in twenty twenty. What did

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Speaker 1: Barisma hope to gain out of pain this enormous amount

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Speaker 1: of money, more than a million dollars to the son

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Speaker 1: of the Vice president. Were they hoping to gain access, influence, protection,

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Speaker 1: all of the above? Great question, I think all of

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Speaker 1: the above. You know, we know at the time that

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and Devin Archer joined the board together. And

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Speaker 1: remember Devin Archer was a former top aide to John Kerry,

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Speaker 1: who was Secretary of State at the time, So they

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Speaker 1: were kind of getting a two fer here. They were

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Speaker 1: getting the Vice president's son and a close aid to

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Speaker 1: John Kerry, the Secretary of State at the time they

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Speaker 1: joined the board. The founder of Zolachevsky, who is this

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Speaker 1: sort of pro Russian oligarch from the Anakovic government, was

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Speaker 1: facing criminal charges in London from the series fraud office,

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Speaker 1: from Rainians, from others in Europe. He was basically living

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Speaker 1: in Switzerland and sort of quasi exile. He was not

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Speaker 1: really allowed to come to the United States, nor was

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Speaker 1: another Ukrainian oligarch named Kolomoiski, who was actually not allowed

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Speaker 1: to visit the United States at all. That was changed

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Speaker 1: once these two joined the board. The case against Lechevski

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Speaker 1: was dropped by certain foreign countries, so there is that

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Speaker 1: sense that perhaps he was being protected. There's also the

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Speaker 1: sense that Bisma was ponying up at the bar as

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Speaker 1: it were to get access to USAID money the United

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Speaker 1: States Agency for International Development or in the Obama administration. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is being steered by Joe Biden, is passing out

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Speaker 1: aid and money two companies like Bizma certainly they wanted

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Speaker 1: to benefit from that relationship. And then I think there's

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Speaker 1: finally just the sense that in Ukraine this is how

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Speaker 1: politics is done. It's a highly corrupt political culture, one

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Speaker 1: of the most corrupt in the world. Some authorities say

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Speaker 1: things go on there that would make Nigerians wins, and

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Speaker 1: how corrupt it is. So they figure that's the way

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Speaker 1: they do politics in business. We're going to do that

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Speaker 1: in the United States, and the Bidens were all too

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Speaker 1: happy to do it. So Joe Biden is seen on

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Speaker 1: videotape bragging about a quit pro quel that he said

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Speaker 1: he would see to it that a billion dollars in

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Speaker 1: American aid was withheld from Ukraine. In less, Victor Chokin,

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Speaker 1: the then chief prosecutor in Ukraine, was fired. Sho is

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Speaker 1: on record telling, including The Washington Post in a July

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Speaker 1: twenty second, twenty nineteen published interview, that he was fired

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Speaker 1: because his investigators were closing in on corrupt in Barisma

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Speaker 1: and also about to investigate an interview Hunter Biden. So

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Speaker 1: when Joe Biden's and the mainstream media says, oh, there's

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Speaker 1: no connection, there, don't the facts suggest otherwise they absolutely do.

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Speaker 1: You know, what I can do is speak obviously to

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Speaker 1: the fact pattern and Greg, I mean you, I think

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Speaker 1: can probably break this out from the legal context of this.

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Speaker 1: But what we know is that clearly Ukrainian officials were

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Speaker 1: investigating Barisma Barisma. There were multiple investigation against Barisma because

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Speaker 1: at the time it was widely recognized in investment circles

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine that Bisma was not a company you wanted

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Speaker 1: to do business with, because there were all these huge

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Speaker 1: questions about money and how the company was formed and

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Speaker 1: what it was using its money for, and that's a

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Speaker 1: matter of public record. Joe can confirm that, as you

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Speaker 1: said of the Washington Post. He also confirm that to

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Speaker 1: The New York Times. Uh. And there's no reason to

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Speaker 1: question him. And the only defense that you know, Biden

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Speaker 1: um and his team have offered is well, you know,

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Speaker 1: lots of people wanted Shokin fired because he was corrupt,

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Speaker 1: which you know, obviously he's a question that's that's open

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Speaker 1: and that can be discussed, but is irrelevant to this question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a it's a massive conflict

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Speaker 1: of interest for you to be the bearer of this threat,

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Speaker 1: of the one who's bringing forward this threat and this

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Speaker 1: clear quid pro quo to somebody who is potentially going

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Speaker 1: to put your son in legal peril um. And and

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Speaker 1: the fact that other people thought Chokin was a bad

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Speaker 1: prosecutor's corrupt is completely irrelevant. Um. And I think this

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Speaker 1: is an issue that is not going to go away

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Speaker 1: for Biden because he hasn't effectively honestly dealt with it.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's going to be more reporting coming

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Speaker 1: out from John Solomon and others that are going to

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Speaker 1: indicate clearly what we know about the money flows too

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Speaker 1: Drew Biden and other people connected with BISMA, Yeah, under

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Speaker 1: the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, it is illegal. It's a

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Speaker 1: crime for a public official to confer a benefit in

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Speaker 1: exchange for something of personal value to himself or to

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Speaker 1: an immediate relative, ie your son. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: I've argued repeatedly that if the President felt that Ukraine

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Speaker 1: had evidence of a violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices

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Speaker 1: Act by an American official, Joe Biden, he had every

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Speaker 1: right to ask Ukraine to please look into it, handover

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Speaker 1: evidence if you have any. And the fact that Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden may be running from president United States doesn't give

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Speaker 1: him immunity or amnesty from the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's a that's a hugely important point,

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Speaker 1: greg And I think that that famous phone call now

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump had with the President of the Ukraine's

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Speaker 1: Lechev's sorry Zalinski is even more important when you consider

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Speaker 1: the fact that Zelenski rises to power in Ukraine. His

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Speaker 1: biggest financial backer is Ukraine and oligarch named Kolomoski, who

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Speaker 1: is guess what involved with Bizma. So for the President

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Speaker 1: to raise it with the President of Ukraine, that's the

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Speaker 1: way to do it. In a sense, Trump is signaling

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Speaker 1: to Zelenski, I want you to look at this without

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Speaker 1: saying I know who your backers are, I know that

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Speaker 1: they may be implicated in this, but you need to

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Speaker 1: look at this, and I agree with you. It's completely appropriate.

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Speaker 1: The actions we're talking about did not occur when Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden was a private citizen. He was Vice President of

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Speaker 1: the United States. He was executing and carrying out American

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Speaker 1: policy in Ukraine, and his son was profiting at the

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Speaker 1: same time. So if this is going to be looked

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Speaker 1: at at all, it needs to be looked at. Now.

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Speaker 1: If Joe Biden's out of politics, people would be saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to look at it. He's out of politics.

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Speaker 1: It should be looked at and it was quite appropriate

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Speaker 1: for President Trump to raise this issue with Zealivsky in

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Speaker 1: the manner in which he did. Peter Schweitzer, you are

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Speaker 1: a wealth of information and your books are among my favorite,

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Speaker 1: the most recent Secret Empires. Thank you for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. I'm Greg Jared filling in for Sean

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Speaker 1: Hannity on the Sean Hannity Show. More of your calls

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Speaker 1: on the other side or number is eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine four one. Sean Creed filling in for Sean Hannity,

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Speaker 1: and we are back now with just a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Tom in Ohio has been on the line. Tom, Thanks

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Speaker 1: very much. Hey, Greg, I always just enjoy it when

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Speaker 1: you're guest hosting. I think you have a real knack

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Speaker 1: for the radio thing. And thank you. Don't quit your

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Speaker 1: day job, but glad to have you. Okay, thanks to

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Speaker 1: appreciate all that. I really appreciate all the hard work

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Speaker 1: you've done for the last three years exposing a lot

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Speaker 1: of the criminal behavior that's that's gone on with the

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Speaker 1: previous administration. I was hoping you could spend a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes commenting on Susan Rice's email that she notoriously

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Speaker 1: left just prior to the end of the Obama administration,

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Speaker 1: where she memorialized the fact that the president was briefed

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Speaker 1: by all of the top law enforcement officers and you

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Speaker 1: know what you think that means? Going, yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: great question, and on the other side of our break,

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Speaker 1: I'll provide the answer. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. Well, Sean

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Speaker 1: is back on the radio sort of. I'm Greg Jarrett

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Speaker 1: filling in for Sean Hannity and thanks for being with

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Speaker 1: us over the course of these three hours. Sort of

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Speaker 1: because somebody recently introduced me as Greg Hannity. I'm not Kidney.

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Speaker 1: I was down in Florida given a speech in book

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Speaker 1: signing and and somebody mistakenly referred to me as Greg

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Speaker 1: Hannity in the introduction, and frankly, I take that as

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Speaker 1: a is a compliment. But no, we're not related, and

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Speaker 1: he's not my long lost child. I am actually considerably

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Speaker 1: older than Sean Hannity, although his hair is grand mine

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Speaker 1: is not. And no, I don't dye my hair, and

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Speaker 1: no it's not a tupei, which is you know, the

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Speaker 1: most frequent it's unbelievable, Ethan, the most frequent UM email

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Speaker 1: or Twitter, you know. Criticism I get is stop wearing

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Speaker 1: that awful tupei or stop dyeing your hair. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but this is my real hair and I don't diet.

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Speaker 1: Ginger cuts my hair once a month, and she can

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Speaker 1: a chest to the fact that, No, I don't dye

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Speaker 1: my hair and it's real hair that is cut, and

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Speaker 1: I you know, viewers may not like it, and I

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Speaker 1: apologize for that, but there's nothing I can do about

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Speaker 1: my hair. It's my hair, okay. And my mother had

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Speaker 1: pitch black hair until the day she died at age

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Speaker 1: eighty two. And it's just a genetic thing. And what

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Speaker 1: can I tell you? And so, you know, what do

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Speaker 1: you want me to do? Color my hair gray? Should

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Speaker 1: I do that? I mean, Ethan, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: I'm just dumbfounded. That's pretty amazing. Did you think I

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Speaker 1: dye my hair? I only thought you might have, only

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Speaker 1: because you told us your age recently, which I didn't

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Speaker 1: believe either. I'm about to turn sixty five in April.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it when you told us. To be honest,

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Speaker 1: yeah I aren't. I supposed to apply for Medicare in

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Speaker 1: the six months before I turned sixty five and not

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Speaker 1: the deal. Yeah, okay, Well help me with that. I

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Speaker 1: guess you won't. You're lying. You're not gonna help me.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna help me with that, all right, Way off subject.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even recall how we got to it.

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Speaker 1: But tom our last caller had posed a very good question.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain your view of the Susan Rice email.

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Speaker 1: On the very last day of the Obama administration, President

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Speaker 1: Trump's inauguration day, January twenty, twenty seventeen. Tom's a smart fellow,

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Speaker 1: because not many people remember that email. And it's very

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Speaker 1: important because in it, Susan Rice, who was leading as

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Speaker 1: national security advisor for Barack Obama, writes this very unusual

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Speaker 1: message to herself, memorializing a conversation that she observed weeks earlier.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was January fifth, between Komey and Obama,

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Speaker 1: in which she quotes the President as instruct Tincomy be

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Speaker 1: sure to go by the book or some such thing

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Speaker 1: in the Trump Russia investigation. Now, why would Susan Rice

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Speaker 1: write that memo to herself. I'll tell you why. It

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Speaker 1: was a cya memo. And you know what that means,

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Speaker 1: cover your you know what, because at the time the

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Speaker 1: FBI wasn't going by the book. They had deceived the

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Speaker 1: FI succord to spy on a Trump campaign advisor carter page.

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Speaker 1: And we now know there were fifty one inaccurate statements, airs, deceptions, omissions,

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Speaker 1: and lies, including the doctrine of one email. And it

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Speaker 1: was that very month, January of twenty seventeen, that the

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Speaker 1: FBI learned that the dossier was phony. They learned it

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Speaker 1: from Christopher Steele's subsource. So there's this conversation allegedly between

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Speaker 1: Trump and Comey in which Obama allegedly says, Oge, make

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Speaker 1: sure you do it by the book. Now you can

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Speaker 1: draw your own conclusion, but mine is that this was

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Speaker 1: a cy a memo to cover the fact that the

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Speaker 1: FBI and Comey, we're not doing it by the book.

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Speaker 1: You can read more about it. Speaking of books, in

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Speaker 1: my book, which Hunt the story of the greatest mass

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Speaker 1: delusion in American political history. Let's go to our next caller.

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Speaker 1: Jerry joins us from beautiful and warm Florida. Hey, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Thank you. Greg. Hey, it's a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. I think you are one of

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Speaker 1: the most logically based people on the television or radio

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Speaker 1: and I I really appreciate your thank you. So I

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Speaker 1: come from a family of Democrats, did in old Democrats,

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Speaker 1: all union people. I started, Yeah, I started my own

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Speaker 1: business in the mid eighties after I finally broke away

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Speaker 1: from the mindset of of you know that the nanny

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Speaker 1: state was going to take care of me. And well,

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Speaker 1: let's just put it this way. I have a business

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Speaker 1: I run that's in Oregon. But I live in Florida,

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Speaker 1: and I definitely do a lot better than I did

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Speaker 1: working for them, for you know, some big company that

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Speaker 1: you work for until you die, and that's what you do.

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Speaker 1: But the mindset, the mindset of the Democrats, it's really important,

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Speaker 1: and I think I really have it down path and

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Speaker 1: it part of it is the indoctrination of the evilness

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Speaker 1: of anybody that's not wearing the same color hat. It's

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Speaker 1: basically it's just like whether you're a Yankee or a

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Speaker 1: Foxed and Red Sox fan, it's like, by God, it

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Speaker 1: might be a crook, but by God's crook. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, they they they refused to open their eyes

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Speaker 1: to seeing anything until it literally hits them between the eyes.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened to me, changed my whole life. Was was

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Speaker 1: was understanding that everything I had been taught that the

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Speaker 1: Democrats supposedly stood for was all bs. And then I

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Speaker 1: saw in the in the mid to late eighties, the

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Speaker 1: news media carrying their water with you know, and I'm

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Speaker 1: a big hunter and gun, you know, right supporter, and

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Speaker 1: I watched the news media line just outright line about

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Speaker 1: things that the NRA were doing, and they and the

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Speaker 1: news media ran with some of the stuff that was

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Speaker 1: a complete line for years and years and it's gotten

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Speaker 1: nothing but worse. Yeah, you know, Jerry, since you all

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Speaker 1: your family or friends or Democrats, did you buy them

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Speaker 1: my book which hunt to set the record straight and

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Speaker 1: maybe open their eyes and minds with the truth. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I'm afraid if I bought them the

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Speaker 1: book they would probably care out the pages and actually

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Speaker 1: light a fire with it. So they are not They

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Speaker 1: are not open minded to it at all. They all

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Speaker 1: thought I was crazy for when I started my own business.

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Speaker 1: But the point though, that I wanted to make was

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Speaker 1: that intel Republicans conservatives make a compelling argument that the

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Speaker 1: common man can get their head wrapped up around in

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Speaker 1: an emotional basis, which is what Democrats are really good about,

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Speaker 1: is pulling the emotion out of a subject and going

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Speaker 1: at it in a way that somebody can understand how

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Speaker 1: they are being stabbed in the back by these people

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Speaker 1: over and over again. And quit sightings, statistics and all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that does not do anything to

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Speaker 1: sway public opinion. All right, Jerry, thanks very much from Florida. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, and you know There's two

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Speaker 1: problems here. First of all, these Democratic candidates are trying

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Speaker 1: to buy votes with you know, free this, free that,

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Speaker 1: you know, free college education, free guaranteed income, you know,

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Speaker 1: forgiveness of debts. You know, it reminds me of the

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Speaker 1: old Herbert Hoover. You know, a chicken in every pot,

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Speaker 1: of car, in every garage, and you know it's just

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Speaker 1: buying votes. Medicare for all green new deal. You know, Kumbaya,

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Speaker 1: We're all gonna pay for you. Americans are smarter than that.

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Speaker 1: They know there's no such thing as a free lunch.

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Speaker 1: Next is John from Michigan. Hey, John, thanks for being

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Speaker 1: with us. Happy New Year. Thanks for having me. Greg Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should change my name. I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right now. It's great talk to you, mister Jared.

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Speaker 1: I uh, you know, as much as I enjoy Sean,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually glad you're on because I have a I

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Speaker 1: have a question to pose more of a leaguer statue.

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Speaker 1: That's okay. Yeah, I'm obviously a very big believer and

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Speaker 1: I think you are to. You actually played a clip

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Speaker 1: a little while ago that the media is propetially pushing

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Speaker 1: lies and false information to fit an agenda, right, you

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Speaker 1: know that's obviously verified. Some ninety six percent of coverage

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Speaker 1: and news is negative against this administration. Yeah, so it's

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Speaker 1: not only just false, it's intentionality is false as well.

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Speaker 1: So while the president and now legal office can really

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Speaker 1: do anything to the media because they hide behind freedom

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Speaker 1: of the press and the constitution, what about the people?

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Speaker 1: What about the citizens? Greg, Can we do a you know,

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Speaker 1: a class action or anything against them, start holding them accountable?

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Speaker 1: I mean, because they're gonna have to address that if

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Speaker 1: the people stand up and say, Okay, I got sixty

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Speaker 1: million people don't want to sue us? Yeah, but your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on something like that, Yeah, you know, there would

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00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: have to be a legitimate cause of action, as it's

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Speaker 1: known in a civil action, such as a class action

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Speaker 1: lawsuit for money damages. And I can't think of any

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Speaker 1: off the top of my head. You know, it is

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Speaker 1: not a crime for the media to lie to the

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Speaker 1: American public. I wish it were otherwise, because they'd all

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Speaker 1: be in jail. But it's just not in the First Amendment,

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Speaker 1: you know, protects free speech. We have such a thing

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Speaker 1: as defamation. But when it comes to you know, lying,

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Speaker 1: you know about a public figure. You have to show

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Speaker 1: actual malice, which is a very high standard. In the

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Speaker 1: New York Times versus Sullivan, it's an impossible standard. You

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Speaker 1: have to show that a member of the media knew

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Speaker 1: that it was a lie or recklessly disregard of the truth,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's just a tough standard. So

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Speaker 1: the answer is no. But the the response that the

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Speaker 1: American public should meet out to the corrupt media, the

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Speaker 1: line media, the biased, hating media, is to stop watching

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Speaker 1: those programs on CNN and MSNBC and stop reading the

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Speaker 1: New York Times and the Washington Post. And the only

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Speaker 1: way that you can let your opinions and feelings about

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Speaker 1: the dishonest media be known and be effective is you know,

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Speaker 1: to you know, vote with your eyeballs and your ears.

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Speaker 1: Don't listen and watch fake news media like CNN and MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: Why anybody with a brain would ever tune in to

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Speaker 1: Rachel Mattow is confounding in bewildering to me. She has

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Speaker 1: a proven track record of getting it wrong. She spent

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Speaker 1: two and a half years telling her viewers, promising them

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Speaker 1: that Trump was guilty of a criminal collusion conspiracy, telling

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Speaker 1: her viewers that the dossier was true, and both of

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Speaker 1: those things were absolutely wrong. In my view, she has

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Speaker 1: no credibility and you would have to be insane to

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Speaker 1: continue to watch Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. We're gonna pause,

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Speaker 1: take quick break, more of your calls. On the other side,

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Jarrett filling in on the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Closing moments of the Sean Hannity Show. On Greg Jarrett

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Speaker 1: filling in for Sean. Let's go to our phone lines.

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Speaker 1: David in Washington, Hi, David, how are you? It was great?

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Speaker 1: How about I'm well? Thanks, which I had to write

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Speaker 1: this down just to make sure I didn't stumble over

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking. So get this to you. With

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Speaker 1: all your investigations for your book. One thing that has

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Speaker 1: always stuck out to me from the beginning was the

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Speaker 1: time Hillary during the debate chuckled and said to Trump,

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Speaker 1: if you lose, you'll say the election was rigged. As

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Speaker 1: we know, she was already funding the dossier. Do you

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Speaker 1: think that, from things you've learned and possibly some of

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Speaker 1: this was so that they after they quote quote won

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Speaker 1: the election, everyone would be in place and possibly put

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Speaker 1: Trump in jail. No, I don't think The plan was

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Speaker 1: to put Trump in jail. I think it was is

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Speaker 1: Peter struck In Lisa Page said, an insurance policy. The

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Speaker 1: Trump Russia collusion hoax was all an insurance policy, and

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Speaker 1: the unlikely event that Trump was elected, they would use

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Speaker 1: it to destroy him and drive him from office. That

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Speaker 1: I think is what their plan was, And the assumption

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Speaker 1: was that Trump would ever win and all of this

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Speaker 1: would be covered up. If you want to read more

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Speaker 1: about it, I hope you'll pick up my new book,

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Speaker 1: witch Hunt, The Story of the greatest mass delusion in

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Speaker 1: American political history. It tells the story from beginning all

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Speaker 1: the way to the end. There was never any credible

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Speaker 1: evidence that Trump had engaged in some Russian collusion conspiracy.

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Speaker 1: There was never any plausible evidence that he was a

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Speaker 1: Russian asset, and it was all based on a fabricated

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Speaker 1: phony dossier. And now we know from the Inspector General's

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Speaker 1: report that the FBI knew it almost immediately, within months

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Speaker 1: of launching their investigation. They had learned from the subsource

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Speaker 1: who provided all of the dossier information that it was phony,

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Speaker 1: that it was exaggeration, It was here say, built on

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Speaker 1: multiple hearsay. Some of it was said in jest, which

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Speaker 1: Hunt is my new book. I hope you'll pick it up.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg jarrett in for Sean Hannity.