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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Wes Shooler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on your twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven home of the Black and the Gold on a Thursday,

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Speaker 2: where we will fully turn the page and start to

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Speaker 2: look at these LA Chargers, the next team on tap

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Speaker 2: for your Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Matthew, what's up? How we doing?

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Speaker 4: Fantastic? Good? How are you?

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Speaker 3: Can't complain? Brother's holding out for us.

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Speaker 4: A little bit? He's great.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like for the last five six weeks, I've

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Speaker 2: been saying, all right, well, this is probably the last

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Speaker 2: sunny day.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy it, why we can, And then it just keeps rolling.

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Speaker 4: I always think about when I walk in, I mean

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Speaker 4: something down I us talk about all time. It's always

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Speaker 4: so by. Oh yeah, it'll hit you hard. You just

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Speaker 4: feel it a little earlier than when you're up on

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Speaker 4: top of the mountain.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 4: I woulda call it the mountain, big hill.

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Speaker 3: Big hill. Ye yeah, no, I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: It's been it's been a nice surprise, and it'll certainly

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Speaker 2: be cold soon enough, but it's gonna be like high

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Speaker 2: seventies eighty degrees this weekend in La so I will

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Speaker 2: pack some shorts and wear some shorts for probably the

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Speaker 2: last time in twenty twenty five. This weekend, we've got

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Speaker 2: plenty to get to before Steelers and Chargers kickoff on

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Speaker 2: Sunday night. Football Matt a little moving and shaken for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers this morning, as they have signed defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: Broderick martin Roads off of Kansas City's practice squad to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers fifty three man roster. Remember that's how that works.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if you have to keep on your roster

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Speaker 4: four weeks, I think.

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Speaker 2: I believe that is the line of demarcation there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna steal some from someone's practice squad, you

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Speaker 2: can't just put them on your practice squad. They have

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Speaker 2: to go right to the active roster. Which makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Well, guys will be flying around team, the team gonna

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Speaker 4: be on flights every five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right, and so he will move to

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Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster. Originally drafted by the Detroit

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Speaker 2: Lions third round in twenty twenty three, he was the

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Speaker 2: ninety sixth overall pick. Has appeared in five games, four

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Speaker 2: tackles in his career. Spent two seasons at Western Kentucky

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Speaker 2: before that Northern Alabama. Matt's still a relatively young guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a Day two NFL draft pick of

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Speaker 2: the Lions, but hasn't really been able to, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of find a role to stick on with Detroit

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Speaker 2: or Kansas City. What do you know about Broderick Martin Rhodes,

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Speaker 2: the newest Steeler?

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Speaker 4: Less than just about any third round pick I can remember,

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Speaker 4: to be honest with you, I could sit here and

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Speaker 4: make stuff up and be like, oh yeah, I studied

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Speaker 4: his film in a Western Kentucky to no end in

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Speaker 4: all his preseason tape. I remember when he was taken

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Speaker 4: that's a little early and not a lot of production

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Speaker 4: at a real small school. Was not a combine invite

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Speaker 4: from what I remember. But I think he tested well

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Speaker 4: with his pro day. He's got traits, he's got long arms,

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Speaker 4: he's big, he's gonna look the part. I would think

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Speaker 4: there's not. He's not gonna be a traditional Casey Hampton

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big boy, so I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 4: Pretend to know a ton about him. But there is

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Speaker 4: sure that they like them coming out of the draft.

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Speaker 4: That's usually how that works. That's where that those you know,

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Speaker 4: our reports start to build. They must have had a

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Speaker 4: decent grade on him back then. But really makes me

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Speaker 4: wonder why now, because he didn't just become available yesterday.

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Speaker 4: He's been on a practice squad for sure the whole season.

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Speaker 4: Sure is Logan Lee in trouble? Is there an injury

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Speaker 4: we don't know about. They're not light at defensive line

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Speaker 4: as far as I know, And as you, like you said,

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Speaker 4: think four weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'll be interested to see, and we should have

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Speaker 2: it here before too much longer. Yeah, sometime within this

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Speaker 4: Us, probably is gonna happen. Hopefully it's not something big.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately I'm leaning that way because again, you put them

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Speaker 3: You have to commitment, you have to.

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Speaker 2: Release somebody Yesterday Wednesday's practice report which came out shortly

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Speaker 2: after we got off air, Scotty Miller still not practicing

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Speaker 2: with that finger, Jabril Peppers with the quad injury, Cole

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Speaker 2: They all did not practice. Chuck Clark did return to practice,

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Speaker 2: but that was yesterday's nobody really amongst that defensive line group,

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Speaker 4: We'll did somebody get hurt in practice yesterday that we

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Speaker 4: don't know about. I mean, I'm just speculating. Sure, you speculating,

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair. It's only fair because a move

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Speaker 2: like this until we kind of know the corresponding move

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers on that fifty three man roster invite

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Speaker 2: some speculation. Like I said, I think within this certainly,

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Speaker 2: should have an answer to that.

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Speaker 4: I would think. So Loganly's been inactive lately. Yeah, out

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Speaker 4: of way, No, I crushed his name. My apologies. I

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Speaker 4: thought he was a borderline roster guy and he made it,

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Speaker 4: and he's been here ever since, and he's been active

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Speaker 4: a little bit lately. Could they just not be happy

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Speaker 4: with him and be like, we're gonna swap one for

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Speaker 4: it's not an injury, yeah, I'm just guessing. You know.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's all we can do for now. But we

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Speaker 2: do know that the Steelers have made that move. It

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Speaker 2: is official. He will be on the active roster, and

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Speaker 2: we'll kind of wait to see anything corresponding moves from

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Speaker 4: Off of that that other we haven't responded much to

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Speaker 4: the injury report that you just read off see them

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Speaker 4: all lowing high Smith. I'm sure they're just like, get well,

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Speaker 4: you know, hopefully just you know, get the Sunday. I

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm just still intrigued with him.

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Speaker 3: I am too.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see more of him, particularly now when

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Speaker 2: you need some bodies. Even with the performance of Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that's maybe another Just give him an extra day

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Speaker 2: We'll kind of wait and see there. But I'm with

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Speaker 2: you on that, n Cole holkm I don't man, I

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Speaker 2: don't like to see that either, because.

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Speaker 4: I know Linger too.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know Patrick Queen and Peyton Wilson are

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Speaker 4: Three of those guys out there together fair amount.

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Speaker 3: But I still want Cole Holkam in that mix.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, especially for depth. And I think maybe they

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Speaker 4: found something with this Harrison package. They play it more.

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Speaker 4: But if you look how they play it, it's all

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Speaker 4: Alec noticed this. I mean, it's like it's more like

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Speaker 4: big Nickel with Wilson being the coverage safety guy, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean, And which is really a compliment

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Speaker 4: to Wilson. I mean to ask that much from him.

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Speaker 4: You know, absolutely, they know he's a linebacker, but he

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Speaker 3: And we know he can run certainly.

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Speaker 2: You saw that when he was at NC State, saw

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like a big, big nickel.

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Speaker 3: It's like a like a silver dollar like.

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Speaker 4: That, because I mean, you're afraid of the tailor threat.

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Speaker 4: And if you're gonna play a lot of too high

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Speaker 4: not gonna have a lot of bodies in the box,

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Speaker 4: but at least now you have bigger bodies in the box.

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Speaker 4: So just an interesting way of approaching it. Maybe that's

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Speaker 3: Jumbo nickel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, big big big nickel.

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Speaker 3: Big square nickel. We'll workshop it there.

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Speaker 2: No, but that's a great h So, yeah, that's kind

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Speaker 2: we should have a a Thursday practice report at some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we we'll keep.

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Speaker 2: we get some clarity on on these these moves here

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Speaker 2: we catch up with our buddy Bob Labriola in a

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Speaker 2: little bit as well, to Matt, what do you say

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Speaker 2: we start deep diving. It's a Thursday here. That means

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Speaker 2: we turn the page. We really start to focus on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers upcoming game.

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting matchup.

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Speaker 2: Monday Tuesday are big recap days. Wednesday's kind of a

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Speaker 2: weird middle of the weekday. Ye, some final look backs,

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Speaker 2: a little look ahead, you know, we go around campus,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: I think I told you about my ESPN chat days.

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Speaker 4: Remember when chat rooms were a thing. I bet yeah,

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Speaker 4: pre Twitter, Like I wasn't even on Twitter at this point,

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Speaker 4: but I chat every noon on Wednesday. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 4: same people came and blah blah blah, and it was

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Speaker 4: a very good time. I mean, it was kind of

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Speaker 4: me and my best element just answer questions left and right,

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Speaker 4: making fun of people answered, you know, boom boom boom,

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Speaker 4: and it was cool and I'll tell two stories about it.

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Speaker 4: But that since doing that, that was always like my

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Speaker 4: line of demarcation of done talking chat time. We can

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Speaker 4: talk about last week, we can talk about next week,

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Speaker 4: but after the chat, it's all system forwork. Right. It

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Speaker 4: was noon on Wednesday, so it was like, yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: and my mind still works that way, so I can

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Speaker 4: tell the story. My wife works at PNC, doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: where she works, but she's been there many, many years.

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Speaker 4: And it was fifteen years. I was still at ESPN.

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Speaker 4: And she gets a tap on the shoulder and her

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Speaker 4: cubicle and she's like to help you. She's like, can

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Speaker 4: you please tell your husband that I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: be in the chat today? And she's like, what are

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Speaker 4: like sports related. I mean, she didn't even know I

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Speaker 4: host the chat, Like, what the heck? What are you

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, all right, yeah you better call coach.

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Speaker 3: You know, the legend of Matt Williamson, The Wonderful World.

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Matt, the Steelers had just thirty eight rushing yards last week,

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Speaker 2: Right right, absolutely, Matt. A bunch more of these stats

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Speaker 2: Rowing along on the drive here on a Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to our buddy Bob Labriola in a

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Speaker 2: continue to parse through to comb over some of these

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Speaker 3: Already we're like over the halfway mark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, officially are Maybe we should revisit some of those

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Speaker 4: Conversations, Tuesday conversation last week or something like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's continue here, though, Matt. This one, I

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Speaker 2: it was part of me that was like, twenty your

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you are right.

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Speaker 4: Ramsey and blah blah blah blah. Now I'm not saying

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00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 4: they misevaluate those guys, but they also haven't quite worked

438
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 4: out where they're the pressman dudes to make you hold,

439
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 4: make you tap that.

440
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Speaker 3: Bag much as an extra second, right right, right.

441
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean they're bad players, but it's not quite what

442
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 4: they were shopping for in terms of completing the picture.

443
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Speaker 2: You know, I think that's fair. Hopefully, you know what

444
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 2: we saw on on Sunday will be replicated a little

445
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Speaker 2: bit again against the Chargers. But you're right, I would.

446
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Speaker 4: Think Herbert's gonna want to have his hands extra quick.

447
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Speaker 4: Oh but he doesn't have that Coltzo line protected.

448
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 3: No, he does not, right, not even close.

449
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Speaker 4: That Brandon Thorn thing I sent you yesterday. I'm sure

450
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Speaker 4: the culture and top two or three. I didn't.

451
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Speaker 3: They were like three or four, I believe, and the

452
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 3: Chargers are last. And the Chargers were thirty seven, right,

453
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Speaker 3: right right. I'm not good at math, Matt, but that's a.

454
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Speaker 4: Glaring, dim pretty good discrepancy.

455
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: The Steelers have twenty seven sacks in the NFL. That's

456
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: third most in the league. Sixty six quarterback hits second

457
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: most in the league. That's also what the Steelers also

458
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: having a bye week, which some of these top defenses.

459
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Speaker 4: The ones above them, have not had.

460
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Speaker 3: The Broncos haven't had a bye week. Yeah, and Matt,

461
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: that reminds me.

462
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Speaker 4: Also, I never put it in there because I don't

463
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Speaker 4: one thousand percent agree with it or believe it. But

464
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 4: they were like second in pressures too. Yes, you know,

465
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Speaker 4: I just don't usually put that in the stat pack

466
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Speaker 4: just because it's a little foggy to me. Sometimes.

467
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Speaker 2: You and I had a show where we did some

468
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Speaker 2: Steelers predictions before the season started, and one of those

469
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Speaker 2: predict one of the ones that I made, and I think,

470
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Speaker 2: I don't know, we might have made it together. Whatever,

471
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Speaker 2: I just had it in my show notes from from

472
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 2: you know, the preseason stuff was so last year Steelers

473
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 2: finished second in the league in turnovers forced, only Buffalo

474
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: had more. Yeah, they finished sixteenth in sacks that average.

475
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Speaker 2: We spent a ton of time talking about that.

476
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 4: That was one of our big bullet point offseason goals.

477
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: And one of our I think what we did in

478
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Speaker 2: this one segment was like I rattled off four or

479
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Speaker 2: five predictions and you told me yes or no, And

480
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Speaker 2: then you rattled off a few and I told.

481
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Speaker 4: You yes, Like we want to get like yards per

482
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Speaker 4: carry up, yes, red zone off like I remember, I remember.

483
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Speaker 2: One of them was like Mason Rudolph plays in over

484
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: under one and a half meaningful games.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, fortunately we haven't seen that yet.

486
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 4: Yeah on the under on that show.

487
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Speaker 3: Let's keep it that way.

488
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Speaker 2: One of them was Kenny Pickett ends up starting a

489
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Speaker 2: game against the Steelers. Well, that chip sailed whenever he

490
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: was traded from the Browns to the Raiders. But one

491
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Speaker 2: of them, one of mine, Matt, was Steelers finished top

492
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Speaker 2: three in the NFL in turnovers forced and in sacks.

493
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Speaker 2: So far, so good here, and I think.

494
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Speaker 4: The backbone of their defense and maybe the organization.

495
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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, absolutely, Matt. Let's see here, Steelers now plus

496
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: nine into and over differential only the Chicago Bears are better.

497
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: Only the Chicago Bears have more takeaways, so the Steelers

498
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: third and sacks now second in takeaways. Steelers league the

499
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: league with eight fumble recoveries. The Chargers, for example, just

500
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: have one. The Steelers have only lost two fumbles. The

501
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: Chargers are at negative four turnover differential twenty first in

502
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Speaker 2: the league.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, does this feel like another week? Listen?

504
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying the Steelers defense is going to force

505
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Speaker 2: five turnovers like they did against Indy or against the Patriots,

506
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Speaker 2: But is this another week where if you can win

507
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: that by plus two, you're in really good shape, really

508
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: good shape.

509
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So there's three things in this game. I've really

510
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 4: been harping on that to me, vastly favor the Steelers.

511
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Speaker 4: Their defensive line against the obviously destroyed Chargers O line.

512
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's like Alabama against the FCS skis.

513
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's one or two verse thirty two.

514
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: I mean it's yeah. Special teams as a whole, this

515
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 4: is not been a very good special teams year at

516
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 4: all for the Chargers. Dick or the kickers all right,

517
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: but otherwise they have not gotten a lot of value

518
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Speaker 4: on special teams and turnovers is the other one. I

519
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Speaker 4: think we talked about that chart that Pro Football Focus

520
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 4: Steelers were top bright Chargers were bottom left when you

521
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Speaker 4: combine the value of turnovers and special teams. So I

522
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Speaker 4: don't think Herbert all of a sudden has become turnover prone.

523
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Speaker 4: But he's under pressure so much that and he's had

524
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Speaker 4: some tip balls, he's had some bad luck, but he's

525
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Speaker 4: on pace to throw I think fifteen touch or interceptions

526
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Speaker 4: last year he threw three. And I was talking to

527
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Speaker 4: Rob King today, I didn't know this. Once in a

528
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 4: while he'll surprise me with a stat, but he said

529
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Speaker 4: Herbert's touchdown interception ratio in twenty twenty four last year

530
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Speaker 4: was the best in the NFL since like Rogers MVP

531
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Speaker 4: last MVP year. Interesting coincidentally, Yeah, I'm sure you'll hear

532
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Speaker 4: that on the air.

533
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Speaker 3: He's urge to take the at some point.

534
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Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, yeah, Herbert only three picks last year.

535
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Speaker 4: I don't know how many touchdowns he threw, but a

536
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Speaker 4: bunch and we only threw three picks. So he is

537
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Speaker 4: not a turnover prone guy. But because he's getting hit

538
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Speaker 4: so much.

539
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Speaker 3: And they're out their top two running back exactly.

540
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Speaker 4: They have some dudes carrying the ball that they don't

541
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Speaker 4: trust as much as the other top guys, like I

542
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: think Viadell's put the ball on the on the floor,

543
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 4: are on the carpet a few times too. You know,

544
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: they're younger, unproven people touching the ball, you know, besides Herbert,

545
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Speaker 4: but he's under pressure all the time.

546
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Speaker 2: And this also paints a pretty picture for the Steelers.

547
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Speaker 2: Steelers have Steelers in terms of points off of turnover differential.

548
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Speaker 4: Yes plus I know that gets a little convoluted, but.

549
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Speaker 2: Points off of turnover differential, yes, are plus fifty over

550
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Speaker 2: their opponents. So the Steelers have gotten fifty more points

551
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Speaker 2: off of turnovers than the teams that they have played. Yeah,

552
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Speaker 2: the Chargers Matt negative thirty six.

553
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Speaker 3: That's next to last in the NFL.

554
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Speaker 4: Last. Yeah, again, that's huge. Like you probably remember better

555
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: than I do. But Rogers after the game was talking

556
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Speaker 4: about how if we're the ball handed to us over

557
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: and over, we got to score more points. He wasn't

558
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: happy with the offense. But they still got twenty four

559
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Speaker 4: points off turnovers. Sure, you know, I mean it's still

560
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Speaker 4: twenty four points you put on the on the scoreboard.

561
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Speaker 4: That directly thank you from the defense, et cetera. And

562
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Speaker 4: the muff punt. You know, actually they don't count that

563
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: because the Caleb Johnson screw up, for whatever reason for NFL,

564
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Speaker 4: it is not counted. And I don't think the muff well,

565
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Speaker 4: the muff punt didn't end up directly in a sut Okay, yeah, sure, yeah.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

567
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they didn't score any points off of that,

568
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Speaker 2: that muff pump.

569
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Speaker 3: Right right right, yeah.

570
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they count that or not, but

571
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Speaker 4: they did not count the Caleb Johnson screw up because one.

572
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Speaker 3: Of my Max's stats wasn't a turnover, right, which is weird.

573
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Speaker 4: Which is weird because one of my mat stats up

574
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 4: till like week six was the Steelers have not allowed

575
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Speaker 4: one point off of turnovers they allowed. And I got

576
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Speaker 4: a bunch of tweets. I'm like, what about Keler Johnson? Like,

577
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Speaker 4: I don't know why they don't count. I'm not an

578
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Speaker 4: official scorer. I just get this stuff from NFL dot com,

579
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Speaker 4: you know, So I'm gonna trust the league on that,

580
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Speaker 4: but I do want to throw that out there.

581
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Speaker 3: No that it makes a ton of sense, and I mean,

582
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: you saw it. TJ.

583
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: Wat gets that stripsack, fumble recovery, Steelers go right down

584
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: the field and score. Yeah, Peyton Wilson, I mean back

585
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: to back. It happened within the span of two minutes.

586
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson gets that interception, takes it down close to

587
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: the shadow of the end zone.

588
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: The Steelers are able to score.

589
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's what they That's what they continue

590
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: doing that off a turnovers and have some longer ten eleven, twelve,

591
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: thirteen play touchdown drives and them were really cooking.

592
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, they get really cooking, right.

593
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Speaker 2: And speaking of that, Matt, that would certainly help with

594
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: the time of possession. That would certainly help with getting

595
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: out snapped by your opponents. The Chargers held the ball

596
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: for over thirty four minutes last week. They average over

597
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: thirty three part of me, they average over thirty five

598
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: minutes over the last three weeks. That's the most in

599
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Speaker 2: the NFL. Nearly thirty six minutes a time of possession

600
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: in the last three weeks, most in the NFL compared

601
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: to the Steelers just a little over twenty seven and

602
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: a half minutes. The Chargers rank second in that category.

603
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh ranks thirtieth. Yeah, so this is this feels to

604
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: me like if you're going to start getting that moving

605
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: in the right direction. I understand the Chargers do this

606
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: very well, but it feels like you can limit them here, like, yeah,

607
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: you can stymy that run game with what they have

608
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: with the offensive line, make Herbert have to throw the

609
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: ball forty sometimes, get them off the field in a

610
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: lot of three and out or a first down and

611
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: out type situations, and hopefully be able to run the

612
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: ball better than you did last week.

613
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Speaker 4: Now, if this were CNR drives Chargers exactly, I would

614
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 4: say it would be nice. It would be I would

615
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: think that the folks on their end of things and

616
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: in they're building right now, are saying, we're really one

617
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: of what's our big advantage hold in the football. We

618
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: got to stay out a third and longs. You know,

619
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: we can't block anybody, you know, But if we can

620
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 4: hold the football and get big people in the game

621
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Speaker 4: and really eat clock and Steelers don't run the ball

622
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: very well, that's one of our past to victory for sure,

623
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Speaker 4: and the whole season backs it up.

624
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: It's a credit to them that they're so good in

625
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: that department when they have a offensive line that's shattered

626
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: and down their top two running.

627
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: Backs one thousand percent. And I think a lot of

628
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 4: it's Herbert, Yeah, I mean just he runs smartly. He's

629
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: adding a lot with his legs. Just in terms of rushing.

630
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Speaker 4: I think we brought this up, but he's the leader

631
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Speaker 4: among all quarterbacks in rushing yard, yeah, which is shocking.

632
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: I mean, Lamar's hurt, but I mean, or was hurt,

633
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 4: but still you don't put him in that light. And

634
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 4: he has turned the ball more than you'd like, turn

635
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: the ball over more and you like, but he's making

636
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: so many throws and keeping drives alive too.

637
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: And to kind of piggyback off of that and to

638
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: paint the picture even more clearly, these are some impressive

639
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: numbers for the Chargers, again, particularly when you consider how

640
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: banged up they've been. On offense, They've produced forty seven

641
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: more first downs than their opponents. Yeah, they average nearly

642
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: eighty eight more yards per game than their opponents. That's

643
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: the best in the league. The Steelers average nearly ninety

644
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: six yards less per game than their opponent. That's thirtieth

645
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: out of thirty two in the league. And Matt this

646
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: is impressive. The Chargers have converted thirteen and a half

647
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: basically percent more third downs than their opponent.

648
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: That's also the league's highest differentially huge differential, right, dude.

649
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 2: They know how to move the football, they know how

650
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: to get first downs and know how to convert third downs.

651
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: They do, they do, and and now they're undefeated in

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Speaker 4: this this one just I saw this morning. They're undefeated

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Speaker 4: in games Joe Alt has finished.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know, so that's a huge difference.

655
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Speaker 4: That's a huge difference too. I mean there's some discrepancy

656
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Speaker 4: of when he's been on the field versus not, but still,

657
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's those are huge numbers that you just cited.

658
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Speaker 4: Verse their opponents and the stuff. The Steelers have not

659
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Speaker 4: been good at yardage differential things like that where they're

660
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Speaker 4: Harbon's a good coach. You know, folks might not like them.

661
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Speaker 4: You know, when I do a show might pursuit later.

662
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: I am not going to say that talk about that,

663
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Speaker 4: but there will definitely be the word cheater thrown up

664
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Speaker 4: on that show, I can promise you. With Merrill, but

665
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Speaker 4: he understands, much like Tomlin and his brother and these

666
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: guys have done in such a long time, possess the

667
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Speaker 4: football be the more physical team understands past the victory.

668
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: In this league when you don't have all your cards.

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Speaker 3: The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I bet the turnovers are making them crazy.

671
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Speaker 2: Running the ball and playing physical is a path to

672
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Speaker 2: victory in every era of football, no matter what.

673
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Speaker 3: And yeah, you're right, and again.

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Speaker 2: Piggybacking off of that, that leads to Aaron Rodgers zero

675
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Speaker 2: to four against Jim Harbaugh two regular season games, two

676
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Speaker 2: playoff games. Harbaugh is one of just two coaches Bruce

677
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Speaker 2: Arians being the other that Rogers has yet to defeat

678
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Speaker 2: that he has faced a minimum of three times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know if I look too much

680
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Speaker 4: into that, does Harbaugh have his number? I mean, I'm

681
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 4: sure they were a.

682
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Speaker 2: Lot of those were like really good Packers against the

683
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: really good Niners NFC championship.

684
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Speaker 4: Certainly in the playoffs, right, yeah, right. I don't think

685
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Speaker 4: that I put it in there because it's interesting. I

686
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Speaker 4: didn't put it in there because I think there's.

687
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Speaker 2: A real rhy mari right right, and it is. It's

688
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: not nothing. It's not a massive sample size.

689
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not ten and zer against them, correct, correct?

690
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: But I did I did find that one interesting.

691
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Speaker 4: Soir, Yeah, yeah, I did think it was interesting.

692
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Speaker 2: We'll get into some more Matt stats in hour number two.

693
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Speaker 2: But on the other side, to close down this first

694
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Speaker 2: hour of the Drive, we'll catch up with our buddy

695
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: Bob Labriola, get his thoughts on the win over the

696
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: Colts and of course what he thinks is going to

697
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: transpire out in Southern California against the Chargers on Sunday

698
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Speaker 2: Night football. We'll talk to Bob Labriola on the other side,

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Speaker 2: West Shouoler, Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

702
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

703
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: Back on the Drive, and I'm afraid I've got some

704
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: bad news.

705
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

706
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: The Lord of living in his fears is not answering

707
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Speaker 2: his phone. Yeah, the Dean of Doom is leaving us

708
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: on leaving us on red here.

709
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: You give him an airpool when you see him.

710
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: We'll have to give Labs some grief when we when

711
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: we see him this weekend, because listen, I tried calling

712
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Speaker 2: him three times, Matt, but no answer for her.

713
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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll get in touch on a second hour.

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Speaker 2: Our from our good friend Bob Labriola. Yeah, I'll see

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Speaker 2: if he shoots me a text back. Hopefully everything's all

716
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: right with him and he just had a little scheduling

717
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: conflict or something going on.

718
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Speaker 3: But very unlabs like he is. He's rock steady dude,

719
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Speaker 3: He's mister reliable.

720
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Speaker 2: But you know, hey, such is life in the National

721
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: Football League, and Matt, we can find something else to

722
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: talk about. Yeah, and with that, maybe you want to

723
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: do some of this around the league, like mid season awards.

724
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were talking about maybe you next week. Let's

725
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Speaker 4: do it now.

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00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: Might as well since we have, you know, fifteen minutes

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Speaker 2: to kill here in absence of the Dean of Doom,

728
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Speaker 2: Let's get right into it. Rookies of the Year, Defensive

729
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, uh Carson Abdul Carter.

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00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think we need to look at this

731
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Speaker 4: either we have set a little bit of parameters. If

732
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Speaker 4: if it's year to date, I don't want to do predictions,

733
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Speaker 4: you know, like who's gonna end up winning it correct,

734
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Speaker 4: who deserves it most till now? But the thing is

735
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Speaker 4: Schwesterners out for the rest of the year, you know

736
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Speaker 4: what I mean? Like, I know, he has no chance

737
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Speaker 4: to win it, but I think he would be the year.

738
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Speaker 4: I think so he's Alfred. He's out too long to

739
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 4: win the award at least that that's sure. Another question

740
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Speaker 4: about that.

741
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Speaker 3: That's a bummer for him.

742
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Speaker 4: It stinks because he's a really promising young linebacker and

743
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 4: he probably would got my vote as best defensive rookie

744
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Speaker 4: to date, but he has no chance of winning it.

745
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: Abdol Carter has been really good too, And that's the

746
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 4: boring one. That's the one that's the uh lowest odds

747
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 4: in Vegas since the draft. He doesn't have a ton

748
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: of sacks and I don't insight pressures, but he's near

749
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 4: the top of the league in pressures, so he's impacting

750
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: games a lot. Yeah, I that there's not it's not

751
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Speaker 4: a good class.

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00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say there's not someone who's really

753
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 2: standing out in that regard. But I think that's about

754
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: where we are now currently. Offensive Rookie of the Year

755
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: is it Tyler Warren's award to lose?

756
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: I presume Buka was off last week and was a

757
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 4: little banged up before that, but I think they're having

758
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: very similar years. I don't know who i'd vote on

759
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 4: to go forward. I think i'd give it the war

760
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 4: in right now. Now, it's unfortunate o' lineman have no

761
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 4: chance at this, but probably the rookie who's played the

762
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Speaker 4: best is Able the Seattle Guard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

764
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Speaker 4: I mean he's been fantastic on one of the best offens.

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Speaker 3: Win that award as an offensive line.

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Speaker 4: But the guard, he ain't winning the guys, yeah, right, a.

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Speaker 3: Mecca Buka could make.

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Speaker 4: He's very much in the yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, there's some there's some more.

770
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Speaker 4: There's definitely more competition.

771
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: There's more fits on the offensive side of the ball there.

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Speaker 4: Like Genty was the leader in the clubhouse before we've

773
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Speaker 4: played a snap. But I don't know if any of

774
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Speaker 4: these running backs have a shot. I don't think Dart

775
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: really has a shot right now. Ward doesn't really have

776
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Speaker 4: a shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Coach of the Year, Matt, This one's very interesting. There's

779
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Speaker 2: a lot of viable candidates here. Shane Stichen of course.

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Speaker 2: I think Mike Rabel is in this conversation, Yeah, Sean McVay, shanahan.

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Speaker 4: If they do, I think I'd go with Stiching. Then

782
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Speaker 4: I don't want to overreact to one week, you know,

783
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Speaker 4: I mean because a week ago when we previewed the Colts,

784
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: I said, I think he should be coach of the year. Okay,

785
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: you lose one game to the Steelers, who are a

786
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: good team. I don't think he just throw everything else

787
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: away that you've done to this point. He would still

788
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: get my vote. But Rabel's coming on really strong. They

789
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Speaker 4: even lost in a long time.

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00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: They haven't and we've talked about their schedule, how favorable

791
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Speaker 2: it is going forward.

792
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna go the playoffs.

793
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Speaker 2: They could win eleven games. Yeah, yeah, they're definitely going

794
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: to the playoffs.

795
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: But much side rail. I'm not trying to take this

796
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 4: off the tracks, but we did a Wednesday show with

797
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: Tom and Tim last night, and going into that show,

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Speaker 4: I've been kind of under the assumption that the North

799
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Speaker 4: AFC North would only put one team in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure anymore. Yeah, I mean, because I

801
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 4: could see the Chargers falling away. I could see Jacksonville

802
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: falling away. Houston is starting Mills this week. I think.

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00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: You know, when you look at the playoff picture, I

804
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: think the Bills and Patriots are going. I gotta think

805
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 4: the Broncos and probably the Chiefs are going the Colts,

806
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: whoever wins the North, and then there's one more spot.

807
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 4: Could it be Baltimore and Pittsburgh. I didn't think that

808
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: was impossible, but now I'm leaning that way. If the

809
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 4: Chargers OH line situation just the Rails their season.

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00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: It's a fair point. Yeah, it certainly is.

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Speaker 2: Will continue to continue to monitor those Baltimore Ravens and

812
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: what they do in a tough one in Minnesota this

813
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: weekend Defensive Player of the Year Matt nick Bonito, Will Anderson,

814
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Speaker 2: Like I think Will Anderson and Miles Garrett are certainly

815
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: in this conversation, but their teams have losing records. Now

816
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: you've got to at least be viable in some regard.

817
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: I would give it to Garrett. I know people hate

818
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: when I talk anything good about this guy, and their

819
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: defense has been good, their team is terrible. I just

820
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: think he's clearly the best defensive player in the league

821
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Speaker 4: right now, and I think he's clearly having his best season.

822
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Speaker 4: What I hate about this and I love about this

823
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 4: is anytime I talk about Miles Garrett, he seems to

824
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: do his worst work against the Steelers, which again that's

825
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: what I love about it. But it makes my cause

826
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: so much worse, you know, like, well I just watched

827
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 4: them with the Steelers, he already did anything like but

828
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 4: then the next gave me five sacks. He's playing the

829
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Speaker 4: run better than ever. I mean, he's a monster.

830
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Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for the angry tweets a society.

831
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 4: I know they're coming now.

832
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: And what might be.

833
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: The along with Coach of the Year, most intriguing one

834
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Speaker 2: of these races Offensive Player of the Year.

835
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Taylor, his case.

836
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: Got worse though, Jackson Smith and jig Smith and Jacob

837
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: I mean, there's some real candidates here.

838
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Speaker 4: I know it's just one week and I kind of

839
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 4: talking on both sides of my mouth where I'm not

840
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: gonna hurt stiking for it. But I think Smith, the

841
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: JIGBA gets the nod over Taylor because he just Taylor

842
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: just had a bad game, you know.

843
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: As we stand here on Thursday, November.

844
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Speaker 4: Six, right exactly. Yes, but that's that's still a pretty

845
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: good race.

846
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: Yes it is. And then Matt MVP, Sam Donald, Matthew Stafford,

847
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes.

848
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Speaker 4: I don't think people look at Donald Stafford strong enough.

849
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Speaker 4: Donald and Stafford like Stafford's going to the Hall of Fame.

850
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 4: You know he's he's got a lot of accolades. First

851
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: overall pick blah, bah blah, but Donald tsaving as good

852
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: a season as any quarterback in the league. There's some

853
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 4: recency here too, because the Bills just beat the Chiefs

854
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: and Mahomes would have been my vote before that game.

855
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: But it's only one game. Yeah, you know, so Mahomes

856
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: is kind of losing some steam. Allan's gaining some steam

857
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: with that win. I'd give it to Stafford, though, I

858
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: mean his touchdown interception ratios unbelievably good. There's been like

859
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: no bad games for the Rams. I know they're not perfect,

860
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: but I would give it to Stafford.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got a really good shot. Yeah, there's

862
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: this is this one's still wide open. It can go

863
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways down.

864
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 3: The stretch here.

865
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Speaker 4: You know, like Lamar is gonna be out of it.

866
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: He said play enough, But I mean some of the usual.

867
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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield's faded a little bit.

868
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Speaker 4: But yeah, he could rebound.

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Speaker 2: If he has a couple of huge weeks, he could rebound.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you know what, Stafford.

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Speaker 4: Getting some buzz in the first month, or getting some buzz,

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Speaker 4: But he's gonna have a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: So there's some thoughts on some individual awards, kind of

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Speaker 2: at the mid season point here. I just got a

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Speaker 2: text from Bob Labriola. Oh good, he's good to go.

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's take a little bit shorter here. We'll

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Speaker 2: come back start hour number two with a beefier segment

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Speaker 2: with Labs on the other side. We'll do all that

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Speaker 2: and more in our number two West Yeuler Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: Halfway Home on the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on

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