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Speaker 1: This is the Prime Day hangover. Yes, did you make
Speaker 1: it through Prime Day? Did you order everything that you wanted?
Speaker 1: Hopefully everything on your list was on sale. A lot
Speaker 1: of things that I wanted were on sale, so I
Speaker 1: thought it was a pretty good Prime Day, although it's
Speaker 1: a little interesting. Typically after Prime Day, Amazon comes out
Speaker 1: with a press release and they say how great Prime
Speaker 1: Day was, and they say about, you know, how many
Speaker 1: items were ordered per second? It's some crazy number. And
Speaker 1: then they talk about you know what people ordered. It's
Speaker 1: usually some nonsense thing like they'll be like the life
Speaker 1: straw was the top most ordered thing. It's like, wait,
Speaker 1: what okay, a lot of people are drinking water out
Speaker 1: of a river. I don't even understand that. Back in
Speaker 1: the day, it was the DNA test. They used to
Speaker 1: sell a ton of those until we all we all
Speaker 1: know what happened with twenty three and me. I did
Speaker 1: order a bunch of stuff, and my wife ordered a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. We basically ordered everything on our list.
Speaker 1: And here is the irony. My Prime Day order. Out
Speaker 1: of every single box that got delivered to my house,
Speaker 1: mine was not delivered. I got a text from Amazon
Speaker 1: that said, sorry, your order was undeliverable. There was no
Speaker 1: safe place to leave it. What Okay, they said they
Speaker 1: came to my house at a certain time and they
Speaker 1: said it was not safe. Now, okay, inside the house
Speaker 1: all the chaos with the kids and you know us, maybe,
Speaker 1: but outside, come on, you can leave a package on
Speaker 1: the porch. Now we have ring cameras. No one came
Speaker 1: to the house at the time they said we were
Speaker 1: also home. No one came to the house. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what was going on here with Amazon. I
Speaker 1: have seen in the past sometimes delivery drivers, I think
Speaker 1: if they're really slammed and they need like you know,
Speaker 1: there's these hard deadlines like Amazon now tells you like
Speaker 1: the window your stuff's getting delivered. If they know they
Speaker 1: can't make that window, sometimes they will just mark a
Speaker 1: package as like, oh sorry, I can't deliver this right now,
Speaker 1: and they'll just come back the next morning and leave
Speaker 1: it on your doorstep. No problem there. This was like
Speaker 1: a whole nother thing that I've never seen before. I
Speaker 1: don't know if someone stole the package and then said, oh,
Speaker 1: it was on deliverable, or if the driver just literally
Speaker 1: quit his job and was like, never mind, I'm out
Speaker 1: too many Prime Day deliveries. But no matter what happened,
Speaker 1: it was kind of annoying because guess what, all the
Speaker 1: stuff that I had ordered that was on Prime Day
Speaker 1: by the time I got this text, and it was
Speaker 1: too late to order again, and they never tried to
Speaker 1: redeliver it. So I ended up having to cancel the
Speaker 1: order and I had to reorder just a couple of
Speaker 1: things I needed. The other stuff, you know, all the
Speaker 1: prices went up, so I didn't get again. So I
Speaker 1: just tell you that story because I just thought, is
Speaker 1: the one time that I put this giant order into
Speaker 1: Amazon getting all the stuff that had been in my
Speaker 1: saved list for so long didn't work? And I don't
Speaker 1: even understand what the end game was here because now
Speaker 1: my package is in like never never Land. So I
Speaker 1: did send on an email. I usually typically send my
Speaker 1: newsletter once a week, and I'm very hesitant to send
Speaker 1: any more emails in next I want to spam people,
Speaker 1: but I did send a special newsletter with the the
Speaker 1: items that I would purchase on Prime DA. I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, people probably want to know, what would
Speaker 1: I buy out of all this stuff that's on sale.
Speaker 1: And so I got the results of what people clicked
Speaker 1: on the most in my newsletter and you're ready, here
Speaker 1: here's what you wanted now, mind you. I find it
Speaker 1: very interesting. Nothing on this list is over was over
Speaker 1: thirty dollars, So that goes to show you people like
Speaker 1: to buy things that are affordable, you know. Because I
Speaker 1: did have a bunch of things on there. The iPad
Speaker 1: was an outlier. It did a lot of people clicked
Speaker 1: on the iPad five, a JBL portable bluetooth speaker, that
Speaker 1: was the number five item that people really liked because
Speaker 1: it's so inexpensive. I mean it really not really is
Speaker 1: not an expensive thing. I'm trying to get my blog
Speaker 1: post up here, so it's not an expensive thing. I
Speaker 1: think it was on sale, and all these things have
Speaker 1: gone up in price, by the way, so if you
Speaker 1: did get one of these, it was great. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the speaker is forty bucks. I think it was Prime
Speaker 1: Day like twenty seven, so that was a great deal.
Speaker 1: This little JBL speaker. It's awesome. Number four micro fiber
Speaker 1: cleaning cloths. This is like the simplest thing ever. It's
Speaker 1: like an eight pack for ten bucks. I just keep
Speaker 1: them everywhere. I've got them in my car, I've got
Speaker 1: them in my bag, I've got them near my computer.
Speaker 2: My kids have them. I mean, they're just great.
Speaker 1: It's just a simple thing that you can use to
Speaker 1: clean your gadgets, and those are on sale.
Speaker 2: Number three.
Speaker 1: I love this gadget, the cord brick weighted cord holder.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times have you had a cord
Speaker 1: that's on your desk? You pull your phone out or
Speaker 1: whatever it's plugged into for charging, and the cord just
Speaker 1: immediately slides behind the you know, like someone pulled it
Speaker 1: from behind the desk. This little device is like ten bucks,
Speaker 1: and it just holds the cables in place, and it
Speaker 1: holds a bunch of them. I love this thing. I've
Speaker 1: got it on all my desks. That I think was
Speaker 1: twelve dollars now it's fifteen, but it was. I think
Speaker 1: the regular price is like twenty. Number two. Let's see here.
Speaker 1: The Balkan Portable Battery Pack is a ten thousand million
Speaker 1: amp charger USBC. It's got the cable built in. You
Speaker 1: have to have one of these if you don't have
Speaker 1: a portable power bank somehow on your person. When you travel,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a time when you are really
Speaker 1: looking for a place to plug in your phone, and
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to find it. So this little
Speaker 1: portable charger I keep. I always have one of these
Speaker 1: on me. This one is now up to forty dollars.
Speaker 1: It was twenty seven when I talked about it, and
Speaker 1: then finally the number one You're ready number one thing
Speaker 1: people clicked on in my email. This magnetic smartphone ring
Speaker 1: another thing that I always have with me because it
Speaker 1: is I don't like having anything on the back of
Speaker 1: my phone, and other people like the pop sockets and things.
Speaker 2: I don't like that permanently there.
Speaker 1: But when I'm traveling or I want to prop up
Speaker 1: my phone just to watch videos, either on a plane
Speaker 1: or anywhere, this is great. It's just a magnetic ring
Speaker 1: and so you attach it to the back of your
Speaker 1: phone with that magnetic circle that's already on the back
Speaker 1: of your phone mag say f on Android, or you
Speaker 1: have it built into your case and it just makes
Speaker 1: a nice little tripod for your phone so you can kickstand. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean, that thing is great, and I think it
Speaker 1: was on sale for like ten bucks.
Speaker 2: Now it's up to.
Speaker 1: Seventeen, so I would say the prime sale was great.
Speaker 1: I think people really did save money if you planned
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think that if you still
Speaker 1: want to see that list, I'll link it up on
Speaker 1: the show notes Rich on tech dot TV. But you know,
Speaker 1: the prices have gone up, so if you didn't act
Speaker 1: on it, you probably missed out. But you know, watch
Speaker 1: these things throughout the year. All right, So we're talking
Speaker 1: about Amazon and there is a prime settlement and I've
Speaker 1: mentioned this prime settlement two point five billion dollars from
Speaker 1: the FTC.
Speaker 2: They said that Amazon made it really tough to.
Speaker 1: Cancel Prime, which I don't know if I ever thought that,
Speaker 1: but I never really tried to cancel Prime, So maybe
Speaker 1: it was they had some dark patterns on the website
Speaker 1: that would trick you and it'd be really tough to cancel.
Speaker 1: But one point five billion of that money, I think
Speaker 1: a billion was a fine, and then one point five
Speaker 1: billion is a refund to consumers. So here's what you
Speaker 1: need to know. Number One, you have to be to qualify,
Speaker 1: you have to meet all three conditions US based Amazon
Speaker 1: Prime customer. If you're listening to this right now, you
Speaker 1: probably are. You signed up or tried to cancel between
Speaker 1: June twenty nineteen and June twenty twenty five. So I
Speaker 1: guess that disqualifies me because I've had Prime since day one,
Speaker 1: literally day one. I will never forget signing up for Prime.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to remember. I think it was eighty
Speaker 1: nine dollars when it first started, and I told my wife,
Speaker 1: I said, you're not going to believe this. Amazon is
Speaker 1: going to deliver us packages in two days unlimited for free,
Speaker 1: for an entire year for ninety bucks. And she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. You know, back in the day,
Speaker 1: you remember you paid shipping. Things cost to ship, and
Speaker 1: somehow Amazon figured out, like, hey, we can ship you
Speaker 1: this stuff for this one fee. And they did a
Speaker 1: great job. And by the way where I live, it
Speaker 1: is now by the hour, Like they're literally saying, okay,
Speaker 1: you're ordering this this morning at nine am, and they
Speaker 1: give you a window we'll have it to you between
Speaker 1: four and eight pm. I'm like, how do you do this?
Speaker 1: What are the logistics of this? Company, except for that
Speaker 1: one time I needed it. It didn't work. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you tried to cancel unsuccessfully between June twenty nineteen and
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and then you used fewer than three benefits,
Speaker 1: so you didn't watch any Prime videos, you didn't listen
Speaker 1: to Amazon Music, you didn't ship anything to your house like,
Speaker 1: you didn't really get anything out of your membership. So automatically,
Speaker 1: you are going to get up to fifty one dollars
Speaker 1: back automatically by Christmas Day, which is great. I love
Speaker 1: that they picked Christmas Day, so you don't have to
Speaker 1: do a thing. You're just gonna get that money back.
Speaker 1: It's going to be automatic. You don't have to fill
Speaker 1: out any forms. Now here's why I'm telling you about this. Scammers.
Speaker 1: They are going to exploit this, which means you're probably
Speaker 1: going to get an email in the next couple of
Speaker 1: weeks that says, hey, we're your friendly Amazon customer service
Speaker 1: and we'd love to give you this refund.
Speaker 2: Please fill out this information or click this link.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: If you click that link or you fill out that information,
Speaker 1: that's when the scam starts and they're going to try
Speaker 1: to get either your Amazon login from you and someone's
Speaker 1: going to buy a bunch of gift cards on your account,
Speaker 1: or they're going to try to capture your personal information.
Speaker 2: Do not fall for that.
Speaker 1: If you want more information, you can go to FTC,
Speaker 1: dot gov, slash Amazon. I tell you this because I
Speaker 1: tell you this about every single thing we talk about.
Speaker 1: Scammers take what we know and they twist it just
Speaker 1: a little bit so it's believable. It's something we're familiar with,
Speaker 1: but then they use it against us. So for instance,
Speaker 1: how many times have you been at a checkout at
Speaker 1: the store and you swipe your card or you tap
Speaker 1: to pay and it says sorry, that didn't work, And
Speaker 1: you immediately get a text on your phone that says, hey,
Speaker 1: was that you at Target that just tried to buy
Speaker 1: the thirty seven dollars and forty nine cents worth of stuff?
Speaker 1: And you go, you know, press y or N and
Speaker 1: so if you've seen that, you know that that happens
Speaker 1: from your bank. But the scam artist send you that
Speaker 1: same text. But of course it's like, hey, click this
Speaker 1: link to approver deny and that's you know what they do.
Speaker 1: They twist things to make it seem like it's something
Speaker 1: you're familiar with, but really it's evil, nefarious, it's not good,
Speaker 1: So don't fall for that stuff. All right, coming up
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Speaker 4: Good morning Ridge, Rich.
Speaker 5: I just recently transferred my wireless service from Spectrum to
Speaker 5: T Mobile Home, and once I connected everything to it,
Speaker 5: for some reason, my Netflix and my Amazon Prime path
Speaker 5: stole work. Everything else works YouTube works. Hulu doesn't work either.
Speaker 1: Well that's not good. What define defined doesn't work?
Speaker 6: Netflix doesn't load up at all?
Speaker 5: Okay, you know a little circle keeps going and then
Speaker 5: it says error. I googled that error code. It tells
Speaker 5: me to go and clear out some stuff on my
Speaker 5: settings on my Sony TV.
Speaker 3: Okay, I did.
Speaker 6: That doesn't work.
Speaker 5: Amazon Prime actually loads up the content. For example, I
Speaker 5: was trying to watch the game, and once you you know,
Speaker 5: you choose the game to watch, it just keeps going
Speaker 5: in circles, buffering, buffering, and then nothing.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Have you done a speed test on this T mobile
Speaker 1: five G home Internet? I'm assuming it's the wireless internet.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, have you done a speed test? Okay?
Speaker 1: It sounds to me that this speed you're getting in
Speaker 1: your home is not very good.
Speaker 2: How do you have this set up? And why? Why
Speaker 2: did you decide to switch the price.
Speaker 5: No, it's just outages, constant outages in my area.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well so now do you Okay, So
Speaker 1: here's what you need to do. You got it number
Speaker 1: one to troubleshoot this. You got to figure out if
Speaker 1: it is the speed you're getting. So if it's what
Speaker 1: I would do is just hook up your phone. Is
Speaker 1: there an Ethernet port on the back of this little
Speaker 1: router they gave you, Yes, okay, so if you can,
Speaker 1: I would connect my computer to that router with an
Speaker 1: Ethernet cable and I would do a speed test. You
Speaker 1: can go to fast dot com and uh that's that
Speaker 1: will give you the speed test. And once you do that,
Speaker 1: let it do the speed test. And then there's like
Speaker 1: an extra speed test you can do. So once it
Speaker 1: finishes the primary it says show more info. You tap
Speaker 1: that and that will give you the details about your connection,
Speaker 1: which is your latency and also your upload speed. So
Speaker 1: if your latency is bad or your upload, your upload's
Speaker 1: probably not gonna be that good anyway. But basically you
Speaker 1: want your latency to be good, so a low number there,
Speaker 1: and you also want your speed to be good. Now,
Speaker 1: all these services do not need a lot of speed,
Speaker 1: like the whole point of streaming. Like the thing that
Speaker 1: the magic that these companies invented really these content delivery
Speaker 1: services and Netflix in particular and YouTube is how to
Speaker 1: make streaming really good even on low speeds. That's the magic.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, if you wanted to download one movie.
Speaker 1: It would take you forever. Now we just stream it
Speaker 1: because they figured out how to get those little tiny
Speaker 1: packets separated and sent over the internet and then they
Speaker 1: reconfigure them somehow on the back end here on your device.
Speaker 2: So that's number one. You got to do a speed test.
Speaker 1: If you're not getting the speed that you need, you
Speaker 1: may have to consider moving this device to a window
Speaker 1: or closer to somewhere in your house where you get
Speaker 1: a better signal.
Speaker 2: Do you have T Mobile phone? Yes, okay, so you.
Speaker 1: Can shortcut some of this stuff. The signal that the
Speaker 1: box pulls in is going to be better than your
Speaker 1: phone because it has a stronger antenna. So but you
Speaker 1: can just go with your phone and kind of go
Speaker 1: around the exterior areas of your house, like sorry, the
Speaker 1: interior near the windows, and see where you get the
Speaker 1: strongest T Mobile connection. So, for instance, for me, in
Speaker 1: the center of my home is a complete dead spot
Speaker 1: for every provider. If I go towards the backyard, some
Speaker 1: of the are stronger. If I go towards the front yard,
Speaker 1: some of the other providers. And I test these things
Speaker 1: all the time at and T T Mobile Verizon. So
Speaker 1: go to the kind of the areas of your home,
Speaker 1: see which which area has the strongest signal, and that's
Speaker 1: probably where you want to place this little router that
Speaker 1: they gave you. And then once you place that there,
Speaker 1: do the speed test again. If you're getting anything over
Speaker 1: like ten megabits per second, you should be fine because
Speaker 1: these services do not need a lot of speed. Once again,
Speaker 1: but it could be just that the signal is not
Speaker 1: good at all, and it's not it's not powerful enough
Speaker 1: for these apps to load up and stream.
Speaker 2: That's number one.
Speaker 1: If your speed is good enough, you might consider plugging
Speaker 1: the cable directly from your TV into the router. I
Speaker 1: know that may be tough if your TV is mounted
Speaker 1: on the wall. Hopefully they ran an Ethernet cable behind
Speaker 1: the wall that you could use to do that. If
Speaker 1: none of that stuff is working and everything is fast
Speaker 1: and it seems like it should be working, I would
Speaker 1: see what's going on with the TV. Sounds like these
Speaker 1: apps are built into the T so I would delete
Speaker 1: the app, reinstall it, see if that helps. That'll clear
Speaker 1: the cast, That'll clear all the data, and then I'll
Speaker 1: kind of start you fresh on there. I'd also make
Speaker 1: sure that your software is up to date on your TV,
Speaker 1: the operating system and the firmware on that Sony TV.
Speaker 1: Uh great question as thanks for the call today, appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: people love texting. I hate texting. I'll tell you why.
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Speaker 3: I hate to use the word hate. I do.
Speaker 1: I really try in my life never to use the
Speaker 1: word hate because I don't like hate to use the
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Speaker 2: Quick question.
Speaker 1: If you don't have to do anything to get your
Speaker 1: prime settlement, how do they know where to send the money?
Speaker 1: I believe they would just use the email address that
Speaker 1: you signed up for Prime with. That's probably what they'll do,
Speaker 1: so that's probably where it will go. Andy writes in
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles. Because I set up the new Nest sermonsats,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you replaced your older models as I did,
Speaker 1: because the old app is going to no longer work.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I did. I went from the standard
Speaker 1: Nest that I had. I think it was a first
Speaker 1: or gen. I think it was like the first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: had to be the first twenty eleven. That's when I
Speaker 1: installed it and went to the new one. Because I'll
Speaker 1: explain the second. But I have a question about Google Home,
Speaker 1: which still shows four thermostats two as offline and I
Speaker 1: can't delete them. It's irritating because the off offline ones
Speaker 1: appear first, so I always have to scroll down to
Speaker 1: see the active ones.
Speaker 2: Do you know how to get rid of them? Yes?
Speaker 2: I actually had to reach.
Speaker 1: Out to Google to figure this out because I was
Speaker 1: having the same issue. I kept going into the Google
Speaker 1: Home app and I could not delete the thermostat. There
Speaker 1: was no option for it. So I'd see this like thermostat,
Speaker 1: I said offline, and I'd see the new one. Here
Speaker 1: is the answer. If you're trying to do this, you
Speaker 1: have to go into the Nest app. So download the
Speaker 1: next app, log in you can remove the old thermostat there.
Speaker 1: Google Home does not have the ability to remove it.
Speaker 1: I still think that it seems like Google Home. You know,
Speaker 1: they're still integrating all the Nest stuff. So just go
Speaker 1: to the next app, delete the thermostat from there and
Speaker 1: they will disappear from Google Home.
Speaker 2: It works perfectly.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you have one of these
Speaker 1: original Nest Learning thermostats, the first generation or the second generation,
Speaker 1: it's no longer going to connect in the Nest app
Speaker 1: or the Google Home app. It will still work. And
Speaker 1: this ends on October twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, so
Speaker 1: your time is running out. The thermostat will still function
Speaker 1: on the wall, it will not be remote controllable, and
Speaker 1: it's no longer going to be smart. So just remember
Speaker 1: that if you've got one of these old Nest thermostats,
Speaker 1: you installed it the first generation or the second generation
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, twenty twelve they came out, so it's been
Speaker 1: a long time. If you have one of these, you
Speaker 1: have to you should replace it probably, And by the way,
Speaker 1: you should have an email from Google saying that you
Speaker 1: have a discount on the new Nest thermostat. I believe
Speaker 1: it comes from Oh God, I put it in last
Speaker 1: week's newsletter. I think it's Google home at Google dot
Speaker 1: com or.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 1: But just look, just search Nest Learning Thermostat fourth gen
Speaker 1: and it typically sells for about two hundred and forty dollars.
Speaker 1: But if you have one of the old ones, I
Speaker 1: think you got a deal to like upgrade, like for
Speaker 1: like one fifty. Vicky is in San Diego. Vicky, are
Speaker 1: you there? You're on with Rich Hi? Rich Hi.
Speaker 7: I'm having problems setting up audio connecting my Samsung TV
Speaker 7: to my Kenwood A MS SUM receiver.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the problem.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm getting I'm not getting any sound I've got
Speaker 7: I'm using a converter, an analog to digital converter, okay,
Speaker 7: and I've got that all hooked up correctly with the cables.
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's a setting that I'm not
Speaker 7: setting right. I've spent hours on the phone with Samsung.
Speaker 1: I've been back and wait, you've spent hours on the
Speaker 1: phone with Samsung. You expect me to know the answer
Speaker 1: to this. If they couldn't figure it out, what makes
Speaker 1: you think I can? Okay, So let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: You've got the TV and you've got this receiver. Where
Speaker 1: does that con come in? What are you converting with?
Speaker 7: It's an old, old ken Wood AMFM receiver okay, And
Speaker 7: I'm using the RCA red and.
Speaker 1: White jack okay, out out from the receiver, the red
Speaker 1: and white jacks to what.
Speaker 7: My son to the optical. That's what I need the
Speaker 7: analog converter for. And then I have the optical cable
Speaker 7: from the converter into the TV.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the optical so the little converter converts it
Speaker 1: into an optical signal. Yeah, and it's an out. Your
Speaker 1: shirt's an out yeah, okay? And do you have any
Speaker 1: other options on the back of that thing.
Speaker 7: No, just HDMI. But I can't use HDMI because the
Speaker 7: receiver's so old, and that's what my speakers are hooked
Speaker 7: up to.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got the speakers hooked up, so you
Speaker 1: want to do Okay, Well, here's the thing. So if
Speaker 1: your speakers are hooked up to HG, you can't have both.
Speaker 1: You can't have optical and HDMI at the same time.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with your TV, oh have You can
Speaker 1: only have one input at a time, or one output
Speaker 1: rather well sorry, one input. So you're doing You're you're
Speaker 1: going optical out of this little converter into the TV.
Speaker 7: I'm going from the optical cable on the back of
Speaker 7: the TV to the optical box, right, and then the
Speaker 7: optical box has the red and white cables that go
Speaker 7: from the optical box into the receiver.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you are going optical into the TV,
Speaker 1: that would be the input. See that's interesting. Are you
Speaker 1: sure this the TV? The optical is the input for
Speaker 1: the TV. You've got that set up?
Speaker 7: Yes, because I can see it. I've got two choices.
Speaker 7: I can use the TV speaker, it can use optical,
Speaker 7: So I keep changing the seting.
Speaker 2: Okay, optical.
Speaker 1: Optical typically means out because that's usually you're connecting that
Speaker 1: to a sound bar. Are you sure it says optical in?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean on the convert itself. There's two choices.
Speaker 1: I can use co X so optical or right they
Speaker 1: can Okay, So here's what I think is happening. I
Speaker 1: think that your TV is the optical is an out,
Speaker 1: and that's where you would connect it to a third
Speaker 1: party like receiver or soundbar using like my TV, I
Speaker 1: haven't connected to my soundbar using the optical out. So
Speaker 1: you would have to ensure that this TV has an
Speaker 1: optical in, which means you're using that to connect to
Speaker 1: your TV with that optical in sound input. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's the case, if your TV can handle that.
Speaker 1: Your TV doesn't have on the back, doesn't have any
Speaker 1: other way to connect. So you're trying to get the
Speaker 1: sound from this receiver to the TV. Is that what's happening?
Speaker 7: You're trying to get that I'm trying to get my
Speaker 7: TV to play on my speakers.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, so I'm confused.
Speaker 1: So the receiver, you're going from the TV to this
Speaker 1: little box then to the receiver.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, so it is. Okay, so it's the out.
Speaker 1: I thought you were trying to get your your radio,
Speaker 1: your AMFM tuner into the TV and then out. Okay,
Speaker 1: So your speakers are connected to the HDMI on your TV.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, my speakers are connected to the receiver.
Speaker 2: Okay, got it?
Speaker 7: Three old old think all like thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So here here's what I think you
Speaker 1: need to do. I think that you you got to
Speaker 1: go from the TV to this little box and that
Speaker 1: that little that that signal is coming out through the
Speaker 1: optical into that box, and that box should take that
Speaker 1: optical and then send it into your receiver. The thing
Speaker 1: you need to make sure is that your TV says
Speaker 1: optical out in the sound settings. You cannot use two
Speaker 1: different settings for the for the audio out on this TV.
Speaker 8: Yeah it does.
Speaker 7: It says optical out okay. And I can even see
Speaker 7: the bars, like the sound bars moving on the optical setting.
Speaker 7: But there's just no found.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the sound is not making it. So the
Speaker 1: sound is going out through the optical cable and it's
Speaker 1: making it that little converter box.
Speaker 2: Are you sure this converter box works?
Speaker 8: I just bought it.
Speaker 7: This is my second one.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the thing I think might be the problem.
Speaker 1: And then you're sure. You're going from the converter box
Speaker 1: and it's sending a signal out through those cables into
Speaker 1: the receiver.
Speaker 2: Is that right the light screen?
Speaker 7: So I mean, there's not much to the converter box.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I would say pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, cool, Yeah, I'm looking at these little converter boxes.
Speaker 1: It's got yeah av okay, so HDMI it's got okay,
Speaker 1: a lot of different things, and you're.
Speaker 2: Powered the Insignia it's the Insignia one.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's I'm it's really tough to figure this out
Speaker 1: without seeing what's happening here, without seeing the actual cables.
Speaker 1: But I think the as long as you're going out
Speaker 1: from the TV, like the audio output is set as
Speaker 1: that optical and you're going into that box and that
Speaker 1: box is sending the signal to your receiver, it should
Speaker 1: work as long as that receiver can tune into those
Speaker 1: RCAA you know, inputs that you're putting it on and
Speaker 1: then it's going out to the speaker, so it should work.
Speaker 2: In theory.
Speaker 1: What I would recommend is trying a different connection. Maybe
Speaker 1: ordering a box that does HDMI out to h like
Speaker 1: HDMI to RCA, if you can do that, and then
Speaker 1: you can use the HDMI connector on your TV. They
Speaker 1: have something called Arc Hdmi RC and that would probably
Speaker 1: be a more an easier way to one of the
Speaker 1: look on your back of your TV.
Speaker 2: If one of the HDMI.
Speaker 1: Ports is labeled ARC, that means you can connect a
Speaker 1: converter to that HDMI and do the sound of output
Speaker 1: that way, and I think that that would probably work better. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I know it's a little bit of a pain,
Speaker 1: but you know, you're trying to troubleshoot here, and it's
Speaker 1: really tricky without seeing it and without me testing it.
Speaker 2: But you can just order.
Speaker 1: You know, one of these things is fifteen bucks. It's
Speaker 1: worth ordering it, trying that and seeing if it works.
Speaker 1: And you got to make sure that you're this little
Speaker 1: box you got the conversion is the right way, Like
Speaker 1: make sure it's going from optical to the av port.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at this one that I'm seeing right here,
Speaker 1: and it looks like it's going from RCA. It looks
Speaker 1: like it's converting the other way. The input is the RCA,
Speaker 1: the output is the optical So I would just make
Speaker 1: sure that your system is set up properly and that
Speaker 1: this little box is actually is converting things the right way.
Speaker 2: Did it ever work? Did this set up ever work?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 7: It See I moved. I moved, and I had it
Speaker 7: set up before, and ever since I've moved, I can't
Speaker 7: get it set up right.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if you had it set up before, then
Speaker 1: everything I'm saying about this not being the right box
Speaker 1: is move because it's just a matter of the connections.
Speaker 1: So what I would do is restart your TV, make
Speaker 1: sure the optical out is selected, make sure everything is
Speaker 1: connected to the proper inputs and outputs. Check to labels
Speaker 1: again it should work, and make sure that your system
Speaker 1: is running on that right, that right input when you
Speaker 1: go to the RCA cables complicated question, Vicky, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that's happening to you. I have faith in you, though
Speaker 1: I don't have faith in myself because if Samsung couldn't
Speaker 1: figure it.
Speaker 2: Out, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1: Eight eight eight rich one o one eight eight eight
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
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Speaker 1: get to the gadget of the week. I love this thing.
Speaker 1: It's super cool, the HP film scan five touch screen
Speaker 1: film scanner. Now, if you listen to the show very closely,
Speaker 1: you'll notice one of my guests last week mention this
Speaker 1: and I happen to have it in my place, you know,
Speaker 1: in my lab for testing, and so I pulled it out,
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, now's the time to
Speaker 1: test because she said she likes it. Let me try
Speaker 1: this thing out. And sure enough, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: But I did find some negatives around my house. I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask like my in laws to see if
Speaker 1: they had some but I couldn't believe the first place
Speaker 1: I looked, the first box I checked, I found negatives.
Speaker 2: Old school, Remember, you.
Speaker 1: Used to get your pictures back in an envelope and
Speaker 1: it came with the pictures in the back and the
Speaker 1: negatives in the front. And my mom always was like,
Speaker 1: don't touch the negatives, you'll ruin them. And think about this,
Speaker 1: When you took pictures back in the day, you had
Speaker 1: to wait to see what was on that role at
Speaker 1: the end. How wild is that now to think about
Speaker 1: that now, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: I was at dinner the other night.
Speaker 1: I watched these teenagers take about seven hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: selfies before they picked the right one they were gonna post. Now,
Speaker 1: it's so different than it was back in the day.
Speaker 1: You'd take a bunch of pictures, half of that role
Speaker 1: what was it, twenty four pictures on a roll, maybe
Speaker 1: some more. Half of them would just be garbage. They
Speaker 1: were literally just throwaways, and you'd be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: thought that was a better picture anyway. So this thing
Speaker 1: is great because all you have to do is take
Speaker 1: the slide. You don't even need a computer, and it
Speaker 1: has a nice five inch screen on it. You put
Speaker 1: the slide into a little tray and it takes slides
Speaker 1: or negatives. You put it into the side, it shows
Speaker 1: up on the screen and then you just press the
Speaker 1: capture button. It works with thirty five millimeter film one
Speaker 1: ten and one twenty six. You can view it, you
Speaker 1: can crop it, you can fine tune things. But you
Speaker 1: can do all that in your computer anyway later. But
Speaker 1: the coolest thing about this is that it's a touchscreen,
Speaker 1: so it's really easy to use compared to all the
Speaker 1: other ones on Amazon that are much more you know,
Speaker 1: button based, and you're sitting there tapping all these buttons.
Speaker 1: So you pop a memory card into the back, you
Speaker 1: press that capture button. It puts the file right onto
Speaker 1: that memory card. Then you can put that memory card
Speaker 1: on your computer, or you can put it on your phone.
Speaker 1: If you have an Android or iPhone, you can just
Speaker 1: plug that right into the bottom of your phone using
Speaker 1: a memory card reader.
Speaker 2: I did this.
Speaker 1: You can see my video where I test this out
Speaker 1: on Instagram at rich On Tech and it's just super cool.
Speaker 1: And I found an old picture of me and my
Speaker 1: wife in Cabo. Can you believe that we were at
Speaker 1: the world's smallest bar anyway, So you put this stuff in,
Speaker 1: you archive it and it's just a great way to
Speaker 1: digitize your pictures. It's two hundred and thirty dollars on Amazon.
Speaker 1: I will admit it was a little cheaper during Prime Day,
Speaker 1: so if you got it during Prime Day, you did well.
Speaker 1: But watch for this over the holidays. It's not something
Speaker 1: you need to buy right now, but just watch for
Speaker 1: a good price drop over the holidays because we know
Speaker 1: it went cheaper, so you know it's going to drop
Speaker 1: at some point again. Anyway, it's called the HP film
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Speaker 1: Be care There are dozens of fake Sora and Sora
Speaker 1: two apps on the app store, and I know that
Speaker 1: people are downloading these because people have been emailing me
Speaker 1: asking me for my invite code. I give it to
Speaker 1: them and they say, oh, Rich, that didn't work. Nope,
Speaker 1: you're probably using it in a bogus app. So be
Speaker 1: careful when you download this app. Make sure you get
Speaker 1: the actual app that is called Sora two. And you
Speaker 1: should know that it's Sora, the actual app. Let me
Speaker 1: get I'm going to the actual app store right now.
Speaker 1: It should say underneath it Sora by open Ai, a
Speaker 1: new video app by open Ai.
Speaker 2: Open Ai.
Speaker 1: It's the number one video right now in photo and video.
Speaker 1: It might be the number one video on the app
Speaker 1: Store at this point because it's it's been trending. They
Speaker 1: had over a million downloads in just five days, which
Speaker 1: is more than Chatchy BT got when it came out.
Speaker 1: So just be careful. Do not just download any Sora app.
Speaker 1: Make sure the developer name is open AI eight to
Speaker 1: a rich one oh one eight to eight seven four
Speaker 1: two four one zero one. We'll take your calls. Coming
Speaker 1: up right after the break. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demurou here hanging out with you, talking technology Triple
Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four
Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. Got a lot going
Speaker 1: on this hour. We've got some great guests. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have Ashton Bingham and Art Koulik, founders of Trilogy Media,
Speaker 1: and they have a new show called Scam to Getting Even.
Speaker 1: They're gonna talk about how to spot fraud, fight back,
Speaker 1: and protect yourself from these scams that are happening every day.
Speaker 1: You would not believe how many. Well actually you probably
Speaker 1: would believe it because you see them every day. It's
Speaker 1: just unbelievable, and people fall for him, they really do.
Speaker 1: If you go there's the Better Business Bureau actually has
Speaker 1: a great website. Called Scam Tracker. So if you just
Speaker 1: want to browse through scams that are happening, you can.
Speaker 1: You can just literally go there and just look up,
Speaker 1: look up a scam, and you'll see all these scams
Speaker 1: that these people online purchase bulk Jersey Supply website. I
Speaker 1: ordered a shirt from this company, and after repeated attempts
Speaker 1: to reach them, they after a month, they said it
Speaker 1: would take longer and longer. Then they sent an email
Speaker 1: to all customers with their personal information saying we know
Speaker 1: you're waiting, YadA YadA, YadA, and anyway, they lost fifty
Speaker 1: eight dollars.
Speaker 2: You can just go and they go on and on
Speaker 2: and on.
Speaker 1: We got lots of replies about Vicky's question with the
Speaker 1: receiver and the TV Ron in California says if Vicki's
Speaker 1: system was working before, she should double check every button
Speaker 1: and setting on her receiver, especially the tape monitor switch.
Speaker 1: If that's pressed in, she won't hear any sound. Randy
Speaker 1: writes in make sure all the cables are correct from
Speaker 1: the TV to the converter box and from the converter
Speaker 1: to the receiver. Then confirm the receiver is set to
Speaker 1: the right input source to hear the TV audio and
Speaker 1: then JP says, ask Vicky what she plugged the RCA
Speaker 1: JAX into on her receiver. On some older models, the
Speaker 1: monitor function has to be turned on or the audio
Speaker 1: signal won't reach the amplifier. So there you go a
Speaker 1: couple of suggestions there. Let's go to Lisa eighty eight
Speaker 1: rich one oh one eighty eight seven four to two
Speaker 1: four one zero one. Lisa is in Los Angeles. You're
Speaker 1: on with Rich Hi Rich hiight.
Speaker 9: Good to talk to you. Fabulous show.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 9: I also get the newsletter.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that double bonus. Where's my bell? Double
Speaker 1: double double bonus?
Speaker 9: Okay. So I have an HP laptop that's like five
Speaker 9: years old. Okay, it's Windows ten okay, and it would
Speaker 9: not allow me to upgrade to Windows eleven. Okay, So
Speaker 9: much to my Chagarin. I go out and I decide
Speaker 9: I'm going to buy a Mac laptop.
Speaker 2: Okay, good choice.
Speaker 9: Two or three days later, Microsoft comes out and says, oh,
Speaker 9: we're gonna support ten for the next year. You just
Speaker 9: have to do ABCD, go down the list and do
Speaker 9: all that stuff. So I thought, well, okay, I'm going
Speaker 9: to do it. I did it. They said you're now supported.
Speaker 9: Do you know how secure that is?
Speaker 1: It's as secure as it can be. You got one
Speaker 1: more year. But now here's the thing. Are you in
Speaker 1: your return period for the laptop?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, then just return it, return it and just stay
Speaker 1: with this for a year, if you know.
Speaker 9: But the next year, yeah, I'm gonna want it. I mean,
Speaker 9: I got to decide.
Speaker 1: You got to decide. I mean, did you buy it
Speaker 1: from the Apple Store or somewhere else? Okay, you only
Speaker 1: have fourteen days and they do not charge a restocking
Speaker 1: fee as far as I know on the laptops, So
Speaker 1: I mean you're in a good place if are you
Speaker 1: good with the Mac?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, don't get it. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I love the Mac too. Like I'm I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I guess it really comes down to the money. Do
Speaker 1: you care about spending the money on the laptop?
Speaker 9: Und I had put the money aside for the Mac
Speaker 9: because I knew this was coming.
Speaker 2: Oh look at you, I love you. What what a
Speaker 2: great planner.
Speaker 8: I try.
Speaker 9: I try till Microsoft pops up and says, oh, you'll
Speaker 9: have one more year.
Speaker 1: You just spend one thousand bucks and now you don't have.
Speaker 9: To thank you, So I just kept to figure it out.
Speaker 9: But I'm I'm loving the Mac and.
Speaker 2: Demaca is great. What'd you get the small one?
Speaker 9: The thirteenth I got the fifteen in fifteen inch MacBook
Speaker 9: air Yees, yeah, I mean, great laptop.
Speaker 1: And you know it's going to serve you for a
Speaker 1: good probably eight to ten years, I think on that side.
Speaker 9: Oh that's good to hear they tell me.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean they they the software might be
Speaker 1: supported for a certain amount of time, but Apple, you
Speaker 1: know the thing will work for much longer. But you know,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. So what you're talking about with the
Speaker 1: with the Windows end of life, that's going to end
Speaker 1: on the fourteenth of October. So after that, if you're
Speaker 1: not updated with this extended security updates, your computer could
Speaker 1: be vulnerable. Now, once you do those updates, like you said,
Speaker 1: you opted in, your computer will get security updates for
Speaker 1: the next year until October twenty twenty six. So what
Speaker 1: I've advised people to do is definitely hop on either
Speaker 1: upgrade your computer Windows eleven if it lets you do
Speaker 1: the extended security software updates. If you can't do that,
Speaker 1: and then you have a year to plan for a
Speaker 1: new computer. Now, in your case, you already went out
Speaker 1: and bought the new computer. You've already got it. You
Speaker 1: just have to decide do you want to wait until
Speaker 1: next year to rebuy this computer or do you just
Speaker 1: want to cut your losses now and just you know, recycle.
Speaker 3: The Windows machine.
Speaker 2: So, but you have an option.
Speaker 1: You You've got your time to decide this, and there
Speaker 1: is no right decision here. Obviously the Mac is going
Speaker 1: to be nice and fast and smooth and up to date.
Speaker 9: In mind, No I noticed the difference.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's the answer you.
Speaker 1: If you're already liking what you're using and you've already
Speaker 1: spent the money, you know, maybe just stick with it.
Speaker 9: My husband might get the HP for the next year.
Speaker 2: There you go, now you're talking give him the old one? Ouch?
Speaker 9: All right, Rich, thank you so much. I appreciate it,
Speaker 9: all right.
Speaker 1: Lisa, enjoy no matter what, no matter what. You can't
Speaker 1: make a wrong decision there. I mean, if you're using
Speaker 1: a brand new Mac, you're gonna love it. And if
Speaker 1: you're using the HP for the next year, it's familiar.
Speaker 1: It's gonna run a lot slower, but at least you're
Speaker 1: protected from yea, all that stuff. So yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: looking to uh, if you've got a Windows ten computer,
Speaker 1: the way you know you have Windows ten. Okay, go
Speaker 1: to your little computer. Go to your Windows computer. Press
Speaker 1: the Windows key on your keyboard. If you press that
Speaker 1: key and your menu pops up in the middle of
Speaker 1: your computer, you're good. You're on Windows eleven. No need
Speaker 1: to think about anything. If it shows up on the
Speaker 1: left hand side, left corner of your screen, that menu
Speaker 1: pops up there when you press the Windows key, that
Speaker 1: means you're running Windows ten. Now, before you email me
Speaker 1: and you say Rich, you can change where the menu
Speaker 1: pops up on Windows eleven.
Speaker 2: It can go to the left. I know.
Speaker 1: But most people that I'm talking about right now that
Speaker 1: are trying to figure out they're running Windows ten or eleven,
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't know how to do that, so
Speaker 1: they're not moving the menu to the left. That's why
Speaker 1: I can say that with confidence that if it pops
Speaker 1: up on the left, you're probably running Windows ten. Pops
Speaker 1: up in the middle, you're running Windows eleven. You don't
Speaker 1: have to think about it. So what you need to
Speaker 1: do if you're running Windows ten, you've only got a
Speaker 1: couple of days here, You've got to enroll in these
Speaker 1: extended security updates that'll give you one more year of
Speaker 1: updates security only on your computer before you know you
Speaker 1: have to buy a new computer next year.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Great call eighty to eight rich one on one eighty
Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Natalie
Speaker 1: writes in listening to the podcast, I've never cracked a
Speaker 1: phone screen before, but now it's happened to my Motorola
Speaker 1: Edge twenty twenty four. The damage isn't terrible, just some
Speaker 1: hairline cracks and a couple deeper ones on the side,
Speaker 1: but the repair quotes shocked me. Diy kits run about
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars and repair shops one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: or more. Since the phone still works fine, I'm torn
Speaker 1: between just fixing it or fixing it and just living
Speaker 1: with it until I upgrade. Any advice on whether that
Speaker 1: cost is worth it, Natalie, I think it's worth it
Speaker 1: because number one, hairline cracks and deeper cracks turn into
Speaker 1: larger cracks, and the reason is because the integrity of
Speaker 1: that screen is now forever ruined. And this is what happens.
Speaker 1: People drop their phone, they say, oh, my phone's fine,
Speaker 1: Oh Whoo, I escape that one. You drop it again, Oh,
Speaker 1: I escape that one. The third time you drop it, boom,
Speaker 1: the whole thing shatters. The reason is because there were
Speaker 1: tiny little cracks and the integrity of that screen was
Speaker 1: probably implicat impacted by the other falls. So you can
Speaker 1: drop your phone one hundred times and nothing happens. It
Speaker 1: only takes one time where you drop it on a
Speaker 1: certain angle, or you drop it and it just hits
Speaker 1: things just right, and those stress fractures ruin it, so
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Speaker 1: in San Clementy. Kevin, you're on with rich.
Speaker 6: Good afternoon, rich. Let me get you off a speaker
Speaker 6: phone here. Anyway, I've got an issue. I came back
Speaker 6: after a trip for my computer and went to open up.
Speaker 6: I've got two Gmail accounts and both of them did
Speaker 6: the same thing. I go to log in and Gmail
Speaker 6: comes up and says, you know, uh, just please be
Speaker 6: advised that we collect this, this, this, and this. It
Speaker 6: was a bunch of personal things that they said they
Speaker 6: collect and I had to either accept or decline. I
Speaker 6: had hit decline and I could not get into my
Speaker 6: email account. So what I hit accept, went back and
Speaker 6: hit accept. They didn't let me into my email account.
Speaker 6: But the things that they wanted to collect, I don't
Speaker 6: agree with. What are my options?
Speaker 1: What are they ask?
Speaker 2: What are they saying what do they want to collect.
Speaker 6: They want to collect telephone numbers, get into my address book,
Speaker 6: account information. I mean it was a laundry I'm not
Speaker 6: in front of it right now, but it was a
Speaker 6: laundry list of personal things that I don't want out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, it depends is it was it a
Speaker 1: scam or was it legitimate from Google?
Speaker 6: It was legitimate from Google. Okay.
Speaker 2: So here's the deal.
Speaker 1: If if you're using a free product, they they do
Speaker 1: ask for things in exchange. So could it be that
Speaker 1: you set up this Google account a long time ago? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so probably when you set up this Google account, they
Speaker 1: did not require as many things to identify you as
Speaker 1: they do now. And without seeing what they're asking for,
Speaker 1: you know, you're saying account info. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that means, Like that's you know, like what accounting for?
Speaker 1: Are they asking for? The things that they would typically
Speaker 1: ask for would be things like your name, maybe your address,
Speaker 1: your phone number, your email. You know, those are the
Speaker 1: identifiers that they would typically want.
Speaker 3: I believe was even okay.
Speaker 2: Date of birth.
Speaker 1: That is that's legitimate because you know, here's the thing
Speaker 1: that's happened in the past couple of years since all
Speaker 1: these account creations happened. Is that back in the day,
Speaker 1: they they were in a growth phase, right, and so
Speaker 1: they wanted as many people to sign up as fast
Speaker 1: as humanly possible so that they can go back to
Speaker 1: their investors and say, hey, we've got one hundred million
Speaker 1: people using Gmail. We've got two hundred billion people, you know,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Now number one, people have gotten very
Speaker 1: savvy with privacy, and you know, there's also things that
Speaker 1: have happened. You know, we saw that Cambridge Analytica thing
Speaker 1: with Facebook, where you know, there's a lot of information
Speaker 1: out there, and these companies are now asking for more
Speaker 1: because they're also protecting themselves because of all these new
Speaker 1: privacy laws that are coming into effect, especially over in Europe.
Speaker 1: We don't really have too many in the US, but
Speaker 1: because these companies operate globally, they are now doing everything
Speaker 1: on a national scale, so are a worldwide scale. So
Speaker 1: I think that it's probably trying to fill in some
Speaker 1: of the information that it did not have on you
Speaker 1: so that it could then sell more things to you
Speaker 1: or monetize your account more.
Speaker 6: So, could I excu me, can I go into the
Speaker 6: personal settings, then on Google and decline individual things within
Speaker 6: the account.
Speaker 1: Once I'm in, I'm looking right now to see what
Speaker 1: I have so basic info. It's got my name, my birthday,
Speaker 1: my gender, contact info, phone number, addresses, IDs, profiles, and
Speaker 1: then password. So I think it really you can see
Speaker 1: what they'll let you get rid of. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that you know they'll let you get rid of. I
Speaker 1: have twelve phone numbers in here. Oh my gosh, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of phone numbers verified. And Italian phone number
Speaker 1: is verified in my account. Okay, I don't That was
Speaker 1: probably when I went to Italy and they Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Google is trying, you know, they're trying to get as
Speaker 1: much information as they can. You can go in there
Speaker 1: and see what you can delete about you, but you
Speaker 1: know it does want personal information. It does want certain
Speaker 1: information data. Birth is going to be tricky because you
Speaker 1: know they want that for protection reasons. Like they had
Speaker 1: this whole thing where they're basically using AI to figure
Speaker 1: out teens birthdays because either parents sign up for their
Speaker 1: kids or the kids sign up themselves. They put a
Speaker 1: fake birthday in so that they can be eighteen and
Speaker 1: not have to deal with all these different parameters. And
Speaker 1: security and privacy settings and protections, and then Google says, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, you know, we need to make things that
Speaker 1: work for teams, we need to make things that work
Speaker 1: for adults, and so we do need to know your birthday.
Speaker 1: So I would say it is a trade off. If
Speaker 1: you want to pay for your own email account, right,
Speaker 1: then you can go on and buy a service that
Speaker 1: may require less information, that's more private, that doesn't sell
Speaker 1: your data.
Speaker 2: But you are using.
Speaker 1: Google, and if you're using Google, if you're using Facebook,
Speaker 1: if you're using Instagram, if you using TikTok, these are
Speaker 1: all free services that you know, they monetize you as
Speaker 1: a person, like your data is what they make money
Speaker 1: off of. So if you're not comfortable with giving them
Speaker 1: that data and you know, then you might have to
Speaker 1: switch to a different service to get that same level
Speaker 1: of whatever you're getting. Now, with all that said, whenever
Speaker 1: you're signing up things for things, always give the least
Speaker 1: amount of personal data, and that is always what I'd recommend. So,
Speaker 1: and you can even sign up those websites like cloaked
Speaker 1: dot com, which you can create entirely new not identities almost,
Speaker 1: but kind of where you can make up a phone number,
Speaker 1: you can put in a new phone number, new email address.
Speaker 1: It's all one time use. So if you really want
Speaker 1: to get private about this stuff, you can you can
Speaker 1: do that. There's also another great website called privacy dot com,
Speaker 1: and this thing is great because it basically connects. It
Speaker 1: does connect to your bank account or maybe your debit
Speaker 1: card one or the other, but you have to you
Speaker 1: can't use a credit card with it. But basically it
Speaker 1: generates one time debit cards that you can use to
Speaker 1: sign up for products. So if you sign up for
Speaker 1: a free trial, chances are you're going to forget to
Speaker 1: cancel if you use this privacy card. It's like a
Speaker 1: one time use. It'll just not work when they go
Speaker 1: to charge you. Privacy dot com really really cool. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the question, Kevin, do appreciate it. Coming up, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about how to protect yourself from some
Speaker 1: of the biggest scams out there. Welcome back to rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology.
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Speaker 2: All right, joining me.
Speaker 1: Now, we've got some guests to talk about scams. I love, Uh,
Speaker 1: I like talk. Okay, let's see what's happening here. I
Speaker 1: am I hearing myself. Oh that's why. Okay, I'm there.
Speaker 1: We go, Thank you, Bobo. Uh yeah, this is my
Speaker 1: first day doing this. Why not make mistakes? Ashton Bingham
Speaker 1: and Art Koulik, founders of Trilogy Media, stars of Fox
Speaker 1: Nations Scammed getting even Welcome to the show, guys, Thank.
Speaker 10: You for having Thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 1: Uh so, tell me, well, first off, how did you
Speaker 1: guys meet up? And how did you start this Trilogy Media?
Speaker 1: And what is that? Exactly?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 11: Art, I mean I was literally like kinpointing on Ashton. Well,
Speaker 11: trulygy media. We opened Trilogy Media as production company.
Speaker 3: Me and Ashton.
Speaker 11: We came to Los Angeles, California to do specifically creating content,
Speaker 11: being in filmmaking business, and then you know, everything was amazing.
Speaker 11: We created company twenty sixteen and my brother Ashton, we
Speaker 11: used to be a roommates. He he answered robo call
Speaker 11: and that scam robo call change the curse of the
Speaker 11: direction of what we've been doing in the past ten years.
Speaker 2: What was the robo call?
Speaker 10: It was one of those you know, and they call
Speaker 10: you and say that your taxes are overdue and you're
Speaker 10: going to be arrested. And I mean, I knew it
Speaker 10: was a scam, but you know, we opened this company,
Speaker 10: we had no intention of going into scam dating. We
Speaker 10: kind of fell into it because that video that I
Speaker 10: posted of that call when insanely viral, and we just, like,
Speaker 10: you know what, we have the drive in the in
Speaker 10: the dreams, we just didn't have the vehicle, and scambating
Speaker 10: was the perfect vehicle of being able to do something
Speaker 10: where we could be who we are on our terms
Speaker 10: with our personalities, but also do something that like really
Speaker 10: was important and raise awareness and use a platform to
Speaker 10: actually like help people and you know, make these scams
Speaker 10: more in the public eye about how deep and dark
Speaker 10: they are and how much more complicated than most people realize.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what okay, So first off, defines scam bating, What
Speaker 1: does that mean exactly?
Speaker 10: Well, scam bating is basically the art of I don't
Speaker 10: know why my picture is delaying here, Sorry, maybe'll turn
Speaker 10: the camera the art of wasting a scammer's time in
Speaker 10: the sense that they will think they have what will
Speaker 10: be a profitable victim for them. But what we're really
Speaker 10: doing is social engineering them to stay on the phone,
Speaker 10: waste their time so they can't scam other people, and
Speaker 10: most importantly, learn what it is they're trying to get
Speaker 10: out of people, so that we can expose those methods
Speaker 10: and warn people on what to look out for, and
Speaker 10: hopefully at the end gather you know, identifying information about
Speaker 10: the perpetrators. And in classic trilogy style, we love to
Speaker 10: actually get outside, get boots on the ground, and actually
Speaker 10: go find these people and confront them and hold them accountable.
Speaker 1: So are these people in the US most of the
Speaker 1: time or where are you going to find these people?
Speaker 10: It's funny a lot of people kind of assume that
Speaker 10: scams are only in like, you know, one corner of
Speaker 10: the earth, or you know, you get a call with
Speaker 10: someone with an Indian accent and the whole scam is
Speaker 10: in India. There are yes, certain pockets of the world
Speaker 10: where certain types of scams are more prolific just based
Speaker 10: on their skill sets and everything, but there are scammers everywhere,
Speaker 10: and especially one thing that we didn't even realize until
Speaker 10: we really got into doing this, is that these scams,
Speaker 10: although yes, there might be a call center in India,
Speaker 10: they're using people all over the planet to facilitate this.
Speaker 10: They have deals with Chinese mafia to launder the money.
Speaker 10: They have cash mules here in the United States that
Speaker 10: will go and collect the money from elderly victims. They
Speaker 10: have people planted in the bank systems and in the
Speaker 10: in the you know whatever. It might be working for
Speaker 10: different companies that you know, can can give them an
Speaker 10: inside look or an inside you know whatever into databases
Speaker 10: of people's information or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's interesting you said that because I remember when this
Speaker 1: there was like a hack, a SIM card hack or
Speaker 1: SIM swapping attack, like you know, I think it was
Speaker 1: a T mobile or one of these, But it came
Speaker 1: out that like there was people on the inside, like you,
Speaker 1: you're not really safe from this when there's people at
Speaker 1: the company working there that are going to do the
Speaker 1: scam or help the scammers.
Speaker 10: And you know a lot of people think that, you know, oh,
Speaker 10: I'm too smart to get scammed or I would never
Speaker 10: fall forward.
Speaker 3: It's so stupid.
Speaker 11: Well it's not.
Speaker 10: You look at it.
Speaker 3: On one sentence on a piece of paper.
Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe it sounds stupid, but when you really dive
Speaker 10: in and you're actually spending your time talking to these
Speaker 10: scammers and then more painfully talking to these victims, you're
Speaker 10: learning about the real long term emotional manipulation that they
Speaker 10: go through, and how complicated it is, and how many
Speaker 10: degrees of separation there are between the victim and the scammer,
Speaker 10: that it's really done by design that way, and you
Speaker 10: really start to learn why these things are so successful. Unfortunately,
Speaker 10: so we have to you know, we have to expose it.
Speaker 10: We have to keep our you know, we have to
Speaker 10: keep our elderly especially aware because that's the big target.
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, is it fun art?
Speaker 1: Is it fun to to you know, catch these people,
Speaker 1: expose them and you know, kind of shed some light
Speaker 1: on this stuff.
Speaker 11: Well, it's well, the majority of the time, yes, it
Speaker 11: is fun. But also, you know, when we're doing this
Speaker 11: kind of line of work, I don't even call this work.
Speaker 3: We love what we do for a living.
Speaker 11: It's it's literally dream. When we just got back from Nigeria,
Speaker 11: we had treaped to India as well. When you go
Speaker 11: to somebody else house and you go to the country
Speaker 11: and you know, if it's a tech support, it's going
Speaker 11: to be out of India. We've went to India when
Speaker 11: somebody been scamming people and then been doing these successfully
Speaker 11: for twenty five thirty years, and you come to their
Speaker 11: house and you stop this procedure, right, they want to
Speaker 11: kill you. So to answer your question, it's fun until
Speaker 11: it's become danger Until it's becoming dangerous, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 11: you have to just like you have to balance it out.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's scary.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I get it because I'm sure some
Speaker 1: of this involves organized crime and things like that. So
Speaker 1: what are the things that people need to watch out
Speaker 1: for these days? Like what are you seeing kind of
Speaker 1: bubbling up? And are these little things that we see like,
Speaker 1: you know, we get these text messages, we get these
Speaker 1: posts on Instagram, we get these emails. Is that really
Speaker 1: where the scams are? Is it really the phone calls
Speaker 1: that people get? Like, just give me some high level
Speaker 1: of like what we need to watch out for right now?
Speaker 10: Literally everything you can't trust anyone or anything. Yeah, whether
Speaker 10: it's text messages, DMS, email, email, phone calls, it's it's
Speaker 10: literally they're going to keep getting you from every way
Speaker 10: that they can. And with the with AI growing the
Speaker 10: way that it is, it's only going to get harder
Speaker 10: to spot. But yeah, you know, a general rule, just
Speaker 10: don't anyone that's unsolicited reaching out to you for anything.
Speaker 10: You need to be skeptical. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Definitely,
Speaker 10: don't click any links that you're sinn, especially if it's
Speaker 10: a number you don't recognize, if it's a phone call,
Speaker 10: like I don't even I mean, I answer my phone
Speaker 10: for spam calls because that's what we do, but in general,
Speaker 10: in my day to day life, I don't even answer
Speaker 10: numbers I don't recognize.
Speaker 3: They can leave me a message.
Speaker 10: I'll call them back if it's important, you know, they'll
Speaker 10: they'll have my number. So, you know, you just got
Speaker 10: to be very careful about what people want, what they're
Speaker 10: asking you to do, and don't just take their word
Speaker 10: for it. If they say they're with the DMV, if
Speaker 10: they say they're with the I R S, you can't
Speaker 10: just take at face value. You know, it's you can
Speaker 10: never be afraid to ask questions and never be afraid
Speaker 10: to take your time and ask a loved one like
Speaker 10: don't ever especially elderly people remind them. Do not ever
Speaker 10: let anyone pressure you into anything. Scammers will play on
Speaker 10: your fears or your dreams, and a really good scam
Speaker 10: will do both. So being pressured, being rushed, being threatened
Speaker 10: always massive red flags and links. Be careful with links,
Speaker 10: don't ever click them.
Speaker 11: If you receive an email in duties and number to
Speaker 11: call again, don't call the number. And no matter who
Speaker 11: is calling, exactly like Ashan said, if.
Speaker 5: It's j M V.
Speaker 11: Sheriff who is coming to arrest you because you didn't
Speaker 11: pay taxes, no matter what's happening, We're living in a
Speaker 11: life that if you booking tickets, you're putting booking cruises,
Speaker 11: you shopping on Amazon, no matter what's happening to you.
Speaker 3: Do your own research.
Speaker 11: If you got a message about from Amazon or from Netflix,
Speaker 11: on from anything, don't don't take the word for it.
Speaker 11: Don't trust anybody. Do your research. Go and put Netflix
Speaker 11: dot com or whatever the website is, and call yourself.
Speaker 11: Don't let Bank of America, chase bank whoever is claiming
Speaker 11: to be or government officials. Find independent number online and
Speaker 11: call that number. And this is it. And that's how
Speaker 11: you know. If you're calling people and you're asking for help.
Speaker 11: It means everything, okay, but if somebody is calling you
Speaker 11: and urging you to do things, don't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gotten to the point where like if I
Speaker 1: you know, any one that calls, like if it's you know,
Speaker 1: one of these companies that you do business with, whether
Speaker 1: it's your bank or credit card or an insurance company,
Speaker 1: and they say, you know, we'd like to confirm some information,
Speaker 1: I'm always like, hold on, wait a second, Like I
Speaker 1: make sure that they're the ones. Well, most of the time,
Speaker 1: I just kind of try to ignore the call, like
Speaker 1: I'll just call back or something. But if they're if
Speaker 1: they're trying to confirm information, like let's say a simple
Speaker 1: scam could be like I call, you'd be like, okay,
Speaker 1: let me just confirm some information, right, let me your
Speaker 1: date of birth is what?
Speaker 2: And then you tell me that and your social is what?
Speaker 2: And then you tell me that.
Speaker 1: Now I've got pretty much everything I need in like
Speaker 1: less than five minutes, and before you even realize like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, hold on, who is this person I'm talking
Speaker 1: to again?
Speaker 10: Well, that's the thing is when they're calling you is
Speaker 10: when you need to be really careful. Even even if
Speaker 10: your caller ID says that it is your bank, Like
Speaker 10: if you recognize the number, that doesn't mean it's your bank.
Speaker 10: Call spoofing is very easy to do, and you can
Speaker 10: make your call, like if I got your mom's phone number,
Speaker 10: I could spoof her number and call you right now
Speaker 10: and make your phone would say your mom's calling you.
Speaker 10: So the best thing to fight against that is hang
Speaker 10: up and call them back, because when they're call spoofing,
Speaker 10: they can only outbound the call, they can't receive it.
Speaker 10: So you call the number on the back of your
Speaker 10: credit card and you ask them do I have a
Speaker 10: problem or was that fake?
Speaker 3: And they will obviously let you know.
Speaker 1: This is this AI voice stuff. We've only got a minute,
Speaker 1: so I want to hear about the show real quick.
Speaker 1: But is the AI voice stuff something to be worried
Speaker 1: about too?
Speaker 6: Yep?
Speaker 10: People calling impersonating your I mean it used to be
Speaker 10: where someone would call your grandma and say, you know, hey,
Speaker 10: we have your son here. He's been arrested. They tried
Speaker 10: this on my Gramdma that he's been arrested for DUI
Speaker 10: he needs money. Of course that wasn't true. But now
Speaker 10: it's to the point where they can listen to your voice,
Speaker 10: especially someone like me who's online. You can find hours
Speaker 10: and hours of my voice. They can clone it, they
Speaker 10: can create it to say literally anything that they want to,
Speaker 10: and you'll never know.
Speaker 3: You'll never know who the hell you're talking to.
Speaker 10: That's why it's important between families to have like a
Speaker 10: pass code that only your family knows. You know, if
Speaker 10: you're ever unsure who's calling or who's talking, if there's
Speaker 10: an emergency, make sure you guys verify that between yourselves.
Speaker 3: All Right.
Speaker 1: The show is called Scammed Getting Even As on Fox Nation.
Speaker 1: How do folks watch this?
Speaker 10: Foxnation dot Com? At premiere is October twenty second. We
Speaker 10: are so so freaking excited to be able to bring
Speaker 10: scam bating and scam awareness to a mainstream level. It's
Speaker 10: a six part, six episode season one, one episode every
Speaker 10: Wednesday starting on the twenty second, and it's every episode
Speaker 10: is very different, very exciting.
Speaker 1: Exilit right, they're playing us off, Ashton Bingham and Art Koolik.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me today. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, you guys, guys.
Speaker 1: All Right, more rich on Tech coming up right after this.
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Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 1: Chat gibt got a big new feature this week. They've
Speaker 1: got apps now built into chat gebt, so Booking, dot Com, Canva, Corsera, Expedia, Figma, Spotify, Zilo.
Speaker 1: These are all things that you can now access inside
Speaker 1: of chatchept, so it's kind of like a mini app
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Speaker 1: I think is the biggest takeaway from this is that
Speaker 1: Spotify make me a workout playlist, which you can already
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Speaker 1: what we have been waiting for when it comes to
Speaker 1: interacting with our computers. And I think this is part
Speaker 1: of the reason why chat gbt has become so popular
Speaker 1: and so incredibly useful for so many people very quickly.
Speaker 1: It's because you don't need to read an instruction manual
Speaker 1: to learn how to use it. You just talk to
Speaker 1: it and you can do a lot of stuff just
Speaker 1: by talking. You could do a lot of stuff just
Speaker 1: by pasting in some data and it figures out what
Speaker 1: you're trying to do. Peloton, Target, Uber, and open Table
Speaker 1: are also coming later this year.
Speaker 2: So what does this mean.
Speaker 1: This means that you can now use all of these
Speaker 1: apps without actually opening the app. So we're getting to
Speaker 1: a point where you're gonna be able to do say
Speaker 1: to chat GBT, hey can you reserve me a table
Speaker 1: at Peter Steakhouse Thursday night at eight pm? And it
Speaker 1: will go out and it will do that for you.
Speaker 1: Can you find me this product at Target and order
Speaker 1: it for me? And because your account is linked up,
Speaker 1: it'll be able to do all that stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is really really powerful. I just I find this
Speaker 1: to be really really incredible. So anyway, check it out
Speaker 1: Chat GBT. If you're using it, all you have to
Speaker 1: do to activate this. It's not on my app just yet,
Speaker 1: so if you have the desktop app, it's not I
Speaker 1: don't see it there just yet. But if you go
Speaker 1: to chat chat GBT dot com and you just do
Speaker 1: the at symbol, you'll see Booking dot Com comes up,
Speaker 1: Canva comes up, Corsera, Expedia, Figma, Spotify, Zilo, and a
Speaker 1: couple other things, so you can just interact with those
Speaker 1: things by talking. I think this is really the next level,
Speaker 1: and it really puts chat GBT in a very powerful
Speaker 1: position of Imagine when we get to the point where
Speaker 1: we're using these little devices to interact with AI, like
Speaker 1: a little tiny like you know, iPod shuffle type looking device,
Speaker 1: you'll be able to do all this stuff. Hey, can
Speaker 1: you check my target to see if that video game
Speaker 1: I want is in stock? It'll go, it'll look at it,
Speaker 1: it'll pull it, it'll figure it out, and it will
Speaker 1: come back to you with the answer, Hey, can you
Speaker 1: order this for me from door Dash? It'll just do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, really really wild stuff. So check it out
Speaker 1: if you haven't. The Canva one I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: trying out. The ones that are interesting to me is
Speaker 1: zillow booking dot Com because you can ask for hotels. Hey,
Speaker 1: find me a lodge style hotel in the middle of
Speaker 1: Wyoming that's got a nine rating for customer reviews and
Speaker 1: a four star rating for stars. I mean, that's stuff
Speaker 1: that you can do already, but to be able to
Speaker 1: just ask in natural language is pretty cool. Now we'll
Speaker 1: see if it actually works as well as I want
Speaker 1: it to. But I think that this is great also
Speaker 1: for accessibility, you know, like that anyone can use this
Speaker 1: if they can speak or they can type that you know,
Speaker 1: you get lots of options for this stuff. Now, pretty
Speaker 1: pretty cool? All right, let's see here. Tony is an
Speaker 1: Orange County just has a quick comment. It sounds about
Speaker 1: the scam stuff. Tony, what's up?
Speaker 4: Hey, good only rich? How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing well? What you got? Almost got scammed?
Speaker 4: I did, And it has to do with what the
Speaker 4: gentlemen said. Although all the advice was great, when you're
Speaker 4: looking up. In my case, it was a brokerage account.
Speaker 4: I couldn't find a call in phone number. Yes, kind
Speaker 4: of a complex question, m hm. So I looked up
Speaker 4: the website and I found one that appeared to be
Speaker 4: who I was looking for. I called the number and
Speaker 4: at first the accent kind of gave me a bit
Speaker 4: of a hesitation, But then the questions came, you know,
Speaker 4: what's the uh, what's your name? What's the email associated
Speaker 4: to this account? And it started going down and they
Speaker 4: put me on hold, and I'm thinking, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: after what I've already given them, they shouldn't really know
Speaker 4: who I am, just from my phone number, because my
Speaker 4: phone numbers associated with my account and so I disconnected.
Speaker 4: So I just want everybody to be careful, even if
Speaker 4: you do look up a secondary source to reach somebody,
Speaker 4: to really make sure. Because what happened after I hung up,
Speaker 4: they called me back and were texting me, called me back, and.
Speaker 2: That was That's that's the giveaway.
Speaker 4: It was not who I was, because as soon as
Speaker 4: they heard the amount of money I was trying to
Speaker 4: figure out how to move. He probably would have got
Speaker 4: promoted that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. He perked up.
Speaker 1: He's like, hold on, we got a good I always
Speaker 1: think of it as like they're in like a boiler
Speaker 1: room kind of situation where there's a bunch of people
Speaker 1: in like a room with all these computers, like we
Speaker 1: got we got a good one. We got a good one.
Speaker 1: But Tony, I'm glad you didn't fall for that. But
Speaker 1: your spidey sense was was right. This happens a lot
Speaker 1: when people look up they will dial or they'll go
Speaker 1: on Google and they will just type in the name
Speaker 1: of a company like Delta phone number, right Spectrum phone number,
Speaker 1: or AT and T phone number, and these people actually
Speaker 1: buy sponsored results up at the top that display a
Speaker 1: phone number, and I'm looking right now to see if
Speaker 1: there's any you know, they maybe Google has gotten a
Speaker 1: little hip to this. But you really have to be
Speaker 1: careful because so many people got dinged on this over
Speaker 1: the past couple of years because their Spidey sense did
Speaker 1: not go up. And if you think about it, Tony,
Speaker 1: like you said, immediately, they're asking you for information to
Speaker 1: confirm your account, stuff that they should have. But again,
Speaker 1: our accounts are real accounts. Do this like when you
Speaker 1: call your bank Sometimes I'm like, you have this information?
Speaker 1: Why are you asking me for all this stuff? But
Speaker 1: it's like because they're trying to make sure you know
Speaker 1: you are who you say you are. But now I'm
Speaker 1: giving you my account number, I'm giving you my data birth,
Speaker 1: I'm giving you the last four of my social and
Speaker 1: all that information. If you just start spouting that out
Speaker 1: to some scam artists, they're going to run with that.
Speaker 2: So good advice, do not Google.
Speaker 1: You can Google for phone numbers, but do not take
Speaker 1: the number off the Google search results. Go into the
Speaker 1: actual website of the company you're trying it. So for Spectrum, Okay,
Speaker 1: so I typed in Spectrum. Go to Spectrum's website and
Speaker 1: then make sure you're at the official website.
Speaker 9: Go down.
Speaker 1: Usually it's at the bottom of the page and it'll
Speaker 1: say customer support call that number eight eight eight rich
Speaker 1: one on one eight eight eight seven four to two
Speaker 1: four one zero one. Coming up, we'll talk Google Pixel
Speaker 1: Fold reviews.
Speaker 2: Coming up right here in rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at Triple eight rich one
Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four
Speaker 1: one zero one. The website for the show richon Tech
Speaker 1: dot TV can go there, get the show notes, uh
Speaker 1: and follow me on social media. I am on Instagram
Speaker 1: at rich on Tech. You can find me there. You
Speaker 1: will find me posting, not two you often I do post,
Speaker 1: but only when it's something that's uh, you know, interesting
Speaker 1: or useful or helpful. So yeah, it's all there. Let's
Speaker 1: see who has been holding the longest. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Let's go to Don in provo.
Speaker 2: Let's see what line is that that's.
Speaker 12: Don You're on with rich that you're amazing, You're handsome.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I mean I'm on the radio. You
Speaker 2: can tell.
Speaker 12: I called you a long time ago about Zelta dot com,
Speaker 12: d E L d t A dot com and you,
Speaker 12: and then the last couple weeks ago you said you
Speaker 12: like original ideas, right.
Speaker 2: I love original ideas.
Speaker 12: That sparked me. I have like four thousand pages of text,
Speaker 12: you know, okay, prolific, prolific in problem and yeah, every
Speaker 12: day there's a new something, new original idea pretty much
Speaker 12: every single day, maybe even more.
Speaker 2: What's what can I help you with?
Speaker 12: Oh, I'm just gonna ask a question. I'm trying to
Speaker 12: find the best free AI for my one and a
Speaker 12: half hours of video musical that I was in Once
Speaker 12: Fun of Mattress, to clean up the scenery, to set
Speaker 12: the costumes, the music, the scene etcenta from the musical
Speaker 12: Once Fund of Mattress nineteen eighty five. With an old
Speaker 12: has an old video camera videotape file is the file
Speaker 12: is vo b.
Speaker 2: Oh vo b. That's a. That's a. That's a tricky one.
Speaker 1: Well, so you're trying, okay, you want to you want
Speaker 1: to run this through and get this cleaned up. So
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I am sure there are ways of
Speaker 1: doing this. At this point, I don't think there is
Speaker 1: a popular way to do it, nor do. I think
Speaker 1: there's a consumer version of this. So we are just
Speaker 1: at the point right now where where AI is doing
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff with photos. Obviously Google's Nano Banana
Speaker 1: and Gemini is like probably the best at that. So
Speaker 1: I think we're getting there. But I think when it
Speaker 1: comes to just taking this VOB file, which by the way,
Speaker 1: are very tricky. Those are typically from DVDs, so you'd
Speaker 1: have to convert that into a file that's you know,
Speaker 1: a regular you know, and like an MP four or something.
Speaker 2: You could do that with.
Speaker 1: What's that program, handbreak, So you can take handbreak. That's
Speaker 1: an easy conversion program, open source, put it in there,
Speaker 1: get it into a better format. But I don't think
Speaker 1: at this point, as far as I know, there's not
Speaker 1: a website I can just recommend and say, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: take this video and throw it in there and it
Speaker 1: will clean up everything on that video. Like, there's just
Speaker 1: not a place that I know that will do that.
Speaker 1: Photos no problem. We can restore photos very easily on Gemini.
Speaker 1: If you take an old picture and you pop it
Speaker 1: into Gemini and say restore this photo, it will do it.
Speaker 1: It's just incredible the results. So I think we're getting
Speaker 1: there don with the other stuff, but I don't think
Speaker 1: we're there just yet. Yes, it is someone listening and
Speaker 1: they're saying, Rich, there's a will do this, like there
Speaker 1: probably is. I don't think there's a consumer version right
Speaker 1: now that's that's very good at doing an entire video
Speaker 1: and ai ing it. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz, they did that at the sphere. It
Speaker 1: cost him one hundred million bucks to do that. So
Speaker 1: it's not like you can just take that video and
Speaker 1: just throw it into some program some website that you're
Speaker 1: gonna find and it's gonna do it for free and
Speaker 1: clean up every frame.
Speaker 2: It's just not possible right now.
Speaker 1: So I would I would think in the next I
Speaker 1: would say a couple of years, and I'd say a
Speaker 1: couple of years probably gonna be quicker than that. But
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see some of these apps
Speaker 1: that can probably do that. Thanks for the call, don
Speaker 1: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Richard in Costa Mesa.
Speaker 8: You're on with rich Back in the day, I upgraded
Speaker 8: my Windows seven laptop to Windows ten. Have been putting
Speaker 8: all the updates all the way up till today. My
Speaker 8: question is is there an advantage to downloading and installing
Speaker 8: a current Windows ten file to my laptop. Verse over
Speaker 8: you know what I have right now, which is an
Speaker 8: old Window ten file.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what's happening.
Speaker 1: So basically, if you use the one that's already on
Speaker 1: your computer, it's probably like are you talking, it's like
Speaker 1: stored on your computer like a partition or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it's just already there versus downloading it. So basically,
Speaker 1: the version that's on your computer is as old as
Speaker 1: that computer. So it's it's you're talking, it's, uh, you
Speaker 1: know how old is this computer?
Speaker 8: But I heard that it's eight years ago that Windows
Speaker 8: ten was available to upgrade from Windows seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's you're talking eight years old.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is that, yes, you can install it
Speaker 1: from there, you're going to be spending the next you know,
Speaker 1: a couple hours doing the updates on that program. So
Speaker 1: either way, we'll get you to the same ending place,
Speaker 1: which is you know, you'll have you'll finally be updated
Speaker 1: after a while.
Speaker 2: If you no advantage, I don't think there's an advantage.
Speaker 1: I think it's easier because you don't have to you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about downloading it, and how are
Speaker 1: you downloading it and installing it?
Speaker 2: Like you know how to do that?
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you go to the Microsoft website, download the
Speaker 8: i ISO file to your laptop, and then install it
Speaker 8: from there.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Usually it's not that easy.
Speaker 1: Usually you need to put that uh that file onto
Speaker 1: like a flash drive and then make it bootable.
Speaker 2: There's a player. Yeah, yeah, Okay, it sounds like you
Speaker 2: know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: So I would just do that personally, because that way
Speaker 1: you're getting a fresh, nice, clean install and you're getting
Speaker 1: something that is uh, you know, up to date, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna have you still have to probably do some
Speaker 1: updates on it, but I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: less than you'd have to do if you were to
Speaker 1: install this from your uh whatever's residing on your laptop.
Speaker 1: But Richard, it sounds like you know your way around.
Speaker 1: If you if you're talking rufus and i ISO files,
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing. I would say do it
Speaker 1: that way, and I think that's a much cleaner method
Speaker 1: than using the old program, which is fine, but it's
Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, dated, and you have
Speaker 1: to update it immediately. It's gonna take a while to
Speaker 1: do that. So thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Eighty
Speaker 1: to eight Rich one on one. The reviews are in
Speaker 1: for Google's Pixel ten Pro fold. I did not test
Speaker 1: this phone. I saw, I went hands on with it,
Speaker 1: but I did not test it. So I will rely
Speaker 1: on the folks that did from all these other websites
Speaker 1: that I rounded up some of their reviews. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I didn't really want to review it
Speaker 1: because it's not something that people are really demanding. They're
Speaker 1: just not like a lot of people are not asking
Speaker 1: me about foldables. This thing is eighteen hundred dollars. And
Speaker 1: also I think that the you know, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what the end result is of all this, but
Speaker 1: let me just go through the reviews here. So here's
Speaker 1: the improvements. You've got a new hinge, you've got new
Speaker 1: dust and water resistance. You've got G two built in
Speaker 1: on it, which is nice, the magnetic charging. It's got
Speaker 1: a bigger battery, so there are some improvements. The reviewers
Speaker 1: say that it is the most durable foldable yet from Google,
Speaker 1: so that's nice. The Verge buried it in sand and
Speaker 1: it did survive. Google did not make this thing any slimmer,
Speaker 1: it's still heavy, bulky, And when you compare it to
Speaker 1: something like Samsung's Galaxy Z Fold seven, which is just
Speaker 1: a marvel of engineering, it's like, hold on, there's two,
Speaker 1: Like what's at Google? You just took two phones and
Speaker 1: you literally slapped them together, whereas Samsung went back to
Speaker 1: the drawing board and engineered that Fold seven to be
Speaker 1: such an amazing device and super thin you won't even
Speaker 1: believe it. The cameras are not necessarily pro level.
Speaker 2: They're good.
Speaker 1: It's a pixel camera, so it's going to be good.
Speaker 1: But the reviewers say it's the same sensors as the
Speaker 1: base Pixel ten, not the higher end Pixel ten Pro series.
Speaker 1: Gizmoto even called them regressed compared to last year. Battery
Speaker 1: life and build quality was good, but some of the
Speaker 1: AI features I disagree with that. Some of the AI
Speaker 1: folks as folks said that the AI features like magic
Speaker 1: q are gimmicky.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1: Magic Q is this thing where let's say someone texts
Speaker 1: you and says, he, what's that restaurant reading out on
Speaker 1: Friday night? Google using AI will look through all of
Speaker 1: your emails and your texts and your whatever stored on
Speaker 1: your phone and it will figure out that information and
Speaker 1: present it to you, and then in one click, you
Speaker 1: can just send it to your friend. So I think
Speaker 1: that's great. I've liked that on the Pixel ten series.
Speaker 1: But the ad me feature, which is the ability to
Speaker 1: take a picture and then add yourself to that picture,
Speaker 1: is very gimmicky.
Speaker 2: And it's actually very tough to use.
Speaker 1: I don't even understand why that's still on these phones,
Speaker 1: because it's just I don't think anyone's using that.
Speaker 2: Zd net says.
Speaker 1: The Pixel is better for dusty environments, but Samsung wins
Speaker 1: on basically every other thing performance than this multitasking.
Speaker 2: So the verdict across the board.
Speaker 1: It's great for durability and battery life, but the z
Speaker 1: Fold seven is still the foldable to beat. And I
Speaker 1: could have told you that without reviewing this phone, because
Speaker 1: I played with it a bit at the Google event,
Speaker 1: and while it's nice, it's not really an upgrade in
Speaker 1: a big way from the last Fold from Google. And
Speaker 1: this is the third generation. They didn't really change too much.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, they made the dust resistance, they've added
Speaker 1: the Chi charging, the wireless charging, and the battery, but
Speaker 1: in the hinge is better, but it's really the z
Speaker 1: fold seven. They just improved every aspect of that device.
Speaker 1: But my biggest downside is that it does not have
Speaker 1: the magnetic ring on the back, which is really annoying
Speaker 1: in this day and age because you're paying so much
Speaker 1: for that phone. To not get that feature as kind
Speaker 1: of a bummer. So anyway, Pixel foll ten, you know,
Speaker 1: probably want to skip. I think unless you love the
Speaker 1: pixel lineup and you love a foldable, it's probably not
Speaker 1: the best foldable out there. But I do love the
Speaker 1: Pixel ten. I will tell you that I do love
Speaker 1: that phone. I think there's still some issues with it.
Speaker 1: There's still it's not as the performance is not as
Speaker 1: great as the iPhone, and the software is incredible. It's
Speaker 1: really a smartphone, but it's still just like not as polished.
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy to me that like this phone is
Speaker 1: still just not as polished as the iPhone, even though
Speaker 1: I think the software on the Pixel is better. But
Speaker 1: you can do more on the on the iPhone because
Speaker 1: so many more developers have tapped into what Apple is built.
Speaker 1: And that's really to me, the defining the differentiating factor
Speaker 1: between these two devices is that on the Google Phone,
Speaker 1: it does a lot of things. It's super smart, it's
Speaker 1: got all the googlely stuff, but that's sort of where
Speaker 1: it ends, Whereas on the iPhone it's like, okay, so
Speaker 1: Apple doesn't have everything you need necessarily built in, but
Speaker 1: there's anything you can think of that you want to do,
Speaker 1: a developer has thought of it and has worked it
Speaker 1: into Apple's ecosystem.
Speaker 2: So still both great phones.
Speaker 1: This year, no matter what you go with, whether it's
Speaker 1: the standard Pixel ten series or the iPhone seventeen series,
Speaker 1: really really the best phones there. Eighty eight rich one
Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four
Speaker 1: one zero one. Coming up this hour, we are going
Speaker 1: to talk.
Speaker 2: E sports and let's see what else do I have?
Speaker 1: Oh, I promise we'll talk about the Tesla cheaper model.
Speaker 1: Tesla's coming up as well. This is rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Eighty to eight rich one
Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two one
Speaker 1: zero one. Let's go to Steven, Orange County.
Speaker 2: Steve, you're on.
Speaker 3: With Rich.
Speaker 13: Oh hright, Rich, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, what's up?
Speaker 13: I have a two part question here, my I have
Speaker 13: a Windows uh laptop and it automatically installed co Pilot
Speaker 13: onto it. You don't want that, yeah, And my understanding
Speaker 13: is that it's uh stream shots periodically like quite often.
Speaker 13: Whatever you're yes, that's that's a feature called recall. Recall. Yeah, no,
Speaker 13: you don't want so I was running first of all,
Speaker 13: why they just put it on there without my knowledge?
Speaker 13: And then second law, how I get rid of it? Okay,
Speaker 13: so with relling on everything, I am yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 13: an email and everything, and I like.
Speaker 2: Well, so recall.
Speaker 1: When it first came out was it was promoted heavily
Speaker 1: by by Microsoft, and they thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be great because what it does is it takes a
Speaker 1: screenshot of your system every couple of seconds to remember
Speaker 1: everything that you've done on your computer. Now, doesn't take
Speaker 1: a genius to figure out why that may not be
Speaker 1: the best idea in the world for a lot of reasons, right,
Speaker 1: even if you're not necessarily doing anything bad on your computer. Right,
Speaker 1: Let's just say you're checking your email. Well, think about
Speaker 1: the emails you check, Hey Rich confirming this is your
Speaker 1: social Hey Rich, here's your bank account number, Hey Rich,
Speaker 1: here's this. Now that's all fine. What if now all
Speaker 1: that data stored on my computer, all those screenshots with
Speaker 1: all that private information. What happens if a hacker gets
Speaker 1: access to that repository of all that stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: now they can go through it and see everything.
Speaker 2: That's just one scenario.
Speaker 1: Other scenarios what if someone gets access to your computer
Speaker 1: and they search They just go and search through your
Speaker 1: recall and find all kinds of stuff that you were
Speaker 1: looking at and find the you know, either private information,
Speaker 1: embarrassing information, whatever.
Speaker 2: So that's number two.
Speaker 1: So as soon as Microsoft launched this, there was no fanfare.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a screech of a record.
Speaker 1: It was like, this is not a good thing, and
Speaker 1: so they went back to the drawing board. They ended
Speaker 1: up delaying the installation of Recall. They went back to
Speaker 1: the drawing board, figured out some more privacy situations, figured
Speaker 1: out some more privacy protections, and now it's back, and
Speaker 1: now it is I just checked it is. You're right
Speaker 1: it is pre installed because I just found it on
Speaker 1: my machine and I'm assuming when you first set it up,
Speaker 1: they ask you if you want it or not. But
Speaker 1: you can turn this feature off. So if you go
Speaker 1: into your settings on Windows Privacy and Security it's under
Speaker 1: recall and snapshots, and the main feature you want to
Speaker 1: look for is take snapshots that has turned on. I
Speaker 1: honestly did not even realize this was turned on on
Speaker 1: my computer. So I'm actually now I'm not going to
Speaker 1: turn it off because I want to go through some
Speaker 1: of these screenshots. I just want to see what's in here.
Speaker 1: That's pretty wild. So okay, I've got one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty gigs dedicated to my screen shots and ninety days
Speaker 1: worth of stuff that is this is wild to me.
Speaker 1: So you can go through and you can turn off
Speaker 1: safe snapshots, and you can delete snapshots. You can delete
Speaker 1: all the snapshots, so you can delete all, or you
Speaker 1: can delete from They give you some nice options past hour,
Speaker 1: past twenty four hours, past seven days, past thirty days,
Speaker 1: so if you just need to delete some. And then
Speaker 1: they've got filter sensitive information snapshots were potentially sensitive infos,
Speaker 1: detected words, credit cards and more will not be saved.
Speaker 1: You can filter apps, you can filter websites, and so
Speaker 1: they have thought about a lot of these things, but
Speaker 1: the reality is for the average person, I you know,
Speaker 1: the idea is that you were surfing a website, you
Speaker 1: were looking at genes, or whatever, and you can't remember
Speaker 1: what that website was, and so you type in genes,
Speaker 1: or you type in a color, or you type in
Speaker 1: whatever description and it would be able to find that
Speaker 1: it's cool in theory, and I actually think it's kind
Speaker 1: of fun, but I get it. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: privacy aspects of this. So that's how you turn it
Speaker 1: off again. Go into your settings Privacy and Security and
Speaker 1: it's under save snapshots. You can turn that off. Why
Speaker 1: did they install it on your computer? You know, a
Speaker 1: tech company just like to do that. There is another
Speaker 1: app if you are this is for my advanced listeners.
Speaker 1: If you are advanced advanced advanced okay, there's an app
Speaker 1: called win Arrow Tweaker WI n A E r O.
Speaker 1: And this is an app that if you really want
Speaker 1: to decide how your computer works, you can do this
Speaker 1: with this app. So it is let's see, is it freeware?
Speaker 1: Looks like it's yeah, free app. So you can just
Speaker 1: tweak all the hidden secret settings that Microsoft doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: let you adjust easily. So if you want to disable things,
Speaker 1: you want to disable copilot completely, you want to you know,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, this will let you do it.
Speaker 1: It really has like, I mean, every feature you can imagine.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you're in control of your system again.
Speaker 1: So but again you have to be an advanced user
Speaker 1: for this. But I mean you could do so many things.
Speaker 2: Look at this.
Speaker 1: I mean it's just if you look at the list
Speaker 1: of things that this lets you do, it's just a
Speaker 1: laundry list. I'll link this up on my website rich
Speaker 1: on Tech dot tv. Again the name of the app
Speaker 1: is win Arrow Tweaker, and also put the instructions on
Speaker 1: how to disable recall if you so choose. A great question, Steve.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're going to talk e sports right
Speaker 1: here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. So
Speaker 1: many things to talk about. I never get to everything
Speaker 1: I want to talk about in the show, ever, it
Speaker 1: never happens. I literally have a laundry list of things
Speaker 1: I want to get to and I just can't get
Speaker 1: to the mall. So maybe I need to plan less
Speaker 1: for the show, Like I just maybe I need to
Speaker 1: come in unprepared one day. But I don't think the
Speaker 1: show would be as good if I did that. But
Speaker 1: that's all debatable. So let's bring on Steve Arnssett. He
Speaker 1: is the co CEO of Team Liquid, this and esports organization,
Speaker 1: and we met at this UCLA. They opened up this
Speaker 1: gaming lounge at UCLA. That's where we met, and I
Speaker 1: just was fascinated by this world of like e sports
Speaker 1: and e athletes and they call them e athletes.
Speaker 2: Maybe Steve, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: It's great to be here, Rich.
Speaker 2: So what is Team Liquid? Explain what that's all about.
Speaker 14: So, Team Liquid we're an eesport team, just like any
Speaker 14: other kind of sports team, think forty nine Ers or
Speaker 14: Golden State Warriors, but instead of throwing around a football
Speaker 14: or dribbling a basketball, we're playing video games. So we
Speaker 14: have a bunch of gamers that compete underneath the team
Speaker 14: Team Liquid, and they play in games like League of Legends, Valorant, StarCraft,
Speaker 14: and then tons of people watch them compete and play
Speaker 14: against other gamers.
Speaker 3: And that's esports. Wow.
Speaker 1: Interesting, And how many like your Team Liquid? How many
Speaker 1: other organizations are there out there in the world? And
Speaker 1: are they part of like a league like are you
Speaker 1: part of like one conference like versus another?
Speaker 14: Yeah, so there's probably about three hundred esports teams globally
Speaker 14: around the world, and each team competes in a number
Speaker 14: of different titles or games. So instead of us just
Speaker 14: playing football or just playing soccer, we're actually competing in
Speaker 14: a lot of different types of games, and we're each
Speaker 14: of those games has their own respective league, like the
Speaker 14: NFL or NBA, and then our business is run by
Speaker 14: our commercialization within each of those respective leagues, and that's
Speaker 14: why we have one hundred and sixty or so players
Speaker 14: that compete underneath Team Liquid all around the world.
Speaker 1: Now you compare yourself to sort of like these big
Speaker 1: teams out there, you've got athletes. What makes e sports
Speaker 1: similar or different from like, you know, the NFL or
Speaker 1: the NBA, yep.
Speaker 14: I mean, one thing that is similar is that we
Speaker 14: are all about the fans.
Speaker 3: We have a global fan base.
Speaker 14: This is something that is a little bit different than
Speaker 14: other traditional sports is that there are a lot of
Speaker 14: gamers out there and they're all around the world, and
Speaker 14: so that is pretty much the same.
Speaker 3: Some things that are different is.
Speaker 14: That we are more digitally native, which means that our
Speaker 14: demographics skew younger. Someone once told me, for every baseball
Speaker 14: fan that die is basically two esports fans are born.
Speaker 14: So there's a lot of gamers and there's only more
Speaker 14: gamers going into the future. As you know, computers and
Speaker 14: tablets and stuff are more ubiquitous with day to day
Speaker 14: kind of activities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to talk about that in a moment,
Speaker 1: But first, I mean this whole esports industry, Like I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, I would get pitched on it pretty hard
Speaker 1: to like cover these stories and these tournaments and all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and it was like it was big, and
Speaker 1: I still think it's big, but it's definitely gone through
Speaker 1: some changes. So was there a bubble that burst or
Speaker 1: something like? What happened?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: Why do people some people have the perception that esports
Speaker 1: isn't as big as it might have been five years
Speaker 1: ago or something.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 14: So esports, just to put it in context, is the
Speaker 14: third most watched sport in the world after cricket and soccer,
Speaker 14: so a lot of people watch it.
Speaker 3: So what happened in two Yeah, it's just wild, it's
Speaker 3: mind blowing.
Speaker 14: But in two thousand and four team there was pretty
Speaker 14: much like this gold rush into esports, and that was
Speaker 14: when a lot of professional sports team owners and investors
Speaker 14: all came in and put money into teams and agencies
Speaker 14: and players and developers and the whole ecosystem, just like
Speaker 14: what would happen in like the crypto bubble or what
Speaker 14: may happen in the AI bubble, Right, a lot of
Speaker 14: capital gets deployed, and those expectations were set pretty high,
Speaker 14: and if you're familiar with the Gartner hype cycle, inflated
Speaker 14: expectations not able to deliver in the timeframe that was
Speaker 14: needed by a lot of these investors, and the bubble burst,
Speaker 14: And so that happened about two years ago, and I
Speaker 14: think that caused a little bit of this kind of.
Speaker 3: What's happening in esports? Is it real?
Speaker 14: But the thing is is that there's still more people
Speaker 14: watching esports events every year prior.
Speaker 3: So we just beat last year's records.
Speaker 14: And that just shows that the demographics are still on
Speaker 14: our side. That you know, they're just the aging of
Speaker 14: the population, more people on the internet, more people gaming.
Speaker 14: And so what has happened over the last two years
Speaker 14: is it just a lot of consolidation. There's been a
Speaker 14: number of teams that have went bankrupt or ceased to exist,
Speaker 14: you know, either their investors didn't have the right horizon
Speaker 14: on the investment or poor management. But then there's the
Speaker 14: haves and the have nots, And so a lot of
Speaker 14: the organizations that are the top of the field, are
Speaker 14: in pole position, have used this time to consolidate and
Speaker 14: buy other esports.
Speaker 3: Teams and basically become bigger.
Speaker 14: And so you saw that three hundred number that I'm
Speaker 14: talking I spoke about that's been consolidated down to probably
Speaker 14: one hundred.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're talking about all these esports and like,
Speaker 1: it's great if these these athletes are you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're good at these games. What games are they playing?
Speaker 1: By the like, what's the most popular esports games?
Speaker 14: Yeah, the two most played esports games. Number one, League
Speaker 14: of Legends. It's made by Riot Games. They actually have
Speaker 14: their headquarters in Santa Monica in Los Angeles, California. And
Speaker 14: the second, which surprises a lot of people, is Mobile
Speaker 14: Legends Bang Bang, which is a mobile game that's predominantly
Speaker 14: played out of the Philippines and Indonesia.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, So now parents listening, parents sitting there going hold on,
Speaker 1: you know, you're talking about all these things that these
Speaker 1: kids can do, and I assume these you know, these
Speaker 1: esports personalities make a decent living doing this as well,
Speaker 1: because at the top of their game. But like, parents
Speaker 1: are already struggling with screen time, right, They're sitting there,
Speaker 1: they're trying to get their kids off Roadblocks or off
Speaker 1: Fortnite or off Minecraft, and so it's like they're like,
Speaker 1: hold on, if every parent got their kid off these screens,
Speaker 1: no would ever make it to this level. So what
Speaker 1: how do you kind of ride that line? Like, how
Speaker 1: do you know when like your kid is healthy doing
Speaker 1: stuff on you know, esports or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, here's my take.
Speaker 14: You know, I think gaming is one of the best
Speaker 14: vessels for education and retaining information. Like, for example, you know,
Speaker 14: my geography is actually really good, and I in part
Speaker 14: say because I played a lot of where in the
Speaker 14: world is Carmen.
Speaker 3: San Diego by US history?
Speaker 2: You know that's putting it way back Steve, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Put the way back right. And the same thing with
Speaker 3: like Orgo Trail.
Speaker 14: There's a lot of parents that probably played that in
Speaker 14: their computer labs at school, right, And that's how you
Speaker 14: learn a lot about US history. There's something about gaming
Speaker 14: that just makes it where you can retain the information
Speaker 14: and learn the information really well. Here's the other side
Speaker 14: is that it's highly addictive. And there's a lot of
Speaker 14: different types of games out there, and most of them
Speaker 14: are not good and they aren't providing the kind of
Speaker 14: development and skill that is possible. So, for example, in
Speaker 14: a lot of these games that are like strategy games,
Speaker 14: you're thinking about critical placement. In team based games, you're
Speaker 14: communicating with other gamers, usually with a headphone, so you're
Speaker 14: learning communication, resolving, conflict, leadership ability, and team based games.
Speaker 14: And in a lot of these games, you're also piecing
Speaker 14: things together and they're very complex. And so it's just
Speaker 14: about finding the right kinds of games, which is really hard,
Speaker 14: and it's making sure that you do it in moderation.
Speaker 14: And I think those two kind of key factors come
Speaker 14: into play.
Speaker 3: And the last thing that.
Speaker 14: I'd say is that like, if you've got a kid,
Speaker 14: Let's say your kid was really interested in you know,
Speaker 14: football or baseball, you probably go in the backyard, grab
Speaker 14: a glove, throw the ball around. Right, Why aren't you
Speaker 14: doing that with your kid If they're playing Fortnite, like
Speaker 14: grab a controller, sit down with them and be interested
Speaker 14: and curious like how do I play this?
Speaker 3: And I know you're thinking, oh my god, I won't
Speaker 3: know what I'm doing and I'm gonna mess it up.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 14: That's actually better because your kid is going to teach
Speaker 14: you this game and there's a whole learning and bonding
Speaker 14: process that happens with that.
Speaker 3: So I always encourage parents to just sit down and play.
Speaker 1: What is it realistic for your kid to become an esports?
Speaker 2: Do you call them? You said athletes?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 3: Call?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So do you Is it realistic for a kid to
Speaker 1: become that? Is that becoming like a pro athlete, you
Speaker 1: know in the NBA or whatever, like is it that
Speaker 1: or is it more realistic? And also there are other
Speaker 1: kind of like opportunities in this world. If your kid
Speaker 1: is into video games, right.
Speaker 14: I mean, I think the probability of an average kid
Speaker 14: making it to a pro team is miniscule.
Speaker 3: It's very very small. There's just a lot of gamers
Speaker 3: out there and think it's it's the same thing in
Speaker 3: like football or baseball. Right, You do these.
Speaker 14: Things because you're learning what it's like to be in
Speaker 14: a team sport, you are being coached, you are taking
Speaker 14: those skills, but you don't really have the goal of
Speaker 14: going pro. Now, maybe if your kid is playing a
Speaker 14: particular game and reaches like the top twenty of the
Speaker 14: respective in game leader board of that respective game.
Speaker 3: Your kid may actually.
Speaker 14: Be a pro gamer, but for most they're not going
Speaker 14: to make it that far, which means that you just
Speaker 14: use this like any other kind of tramural sport that
Speaker 14: you can learn life skills and collaborating with other players.
Speaker 14: And so what we're finding more and more, just like
Speaker 14: you mentioned at the UCLA campus, is at universities, colleges,
Speaker 14: high schools, even elementary schools are now investing into like
Speaker 14: building out these labs, these gaming centers where kids can
Speaker 14: learn play the right games, develop those skills. And I
Speaker 14: mean I compare that to when I was a kid,
Speaker 14: Like we didn't have access to those things. So I
Speaker 14: think it's just so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really, I mean it's it's a different world
Speaker 1: for sure. I Mean, I you know, I played video games.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, you know my age
Speaker 1: have played video games. But this this is like next
Speaker 1: level stuff. Like when I've seen some of these pro gamers,
Speaker 1: especially like the way that they're doing things, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: how how are you doing that so fast? So what's
Speaker 1: next for you guys? What's next for Team liquod We
Speaker 1: got about a minute left.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, Team Liquid. We are the largest esports
Speaker 14: team in the world. Old We've won more prize money
Speaker 14: than another team. We have the most championships of any team.
Speaker 14: We feel the most teams and players. I want Team
Speaker 14: Liquid to be a household name around the world and
Speaker 14: it's our ball to drop or our misclick to happen.
Speaker 14: So I want to continue expanding our brand into important
Speaker 14: regions of the world where we don't have a base
Speaker 14: yet and continue to just field the best players and
Speaker 14: teams across the globe.
Speaker 3: That's the goal for TL.
Speaker 1: All right, Team Liquid, It's Team liquid dot com. Steve Arensett,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me rich, I appreciate it.
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