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Speaker 1: This is the Prime Day hangover. Yes, did you make

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Speaker 1: know what happened with twenty three and me. I did

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Speaker 1: And here is the irony. My Prime Day order. Out

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Speaker 4: Good morning Ridge, Rich.

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Speaker 5: I just recently transferred my wireless service from Spectrum to

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Speaker 5: Okay, you know a little circle keeps going and then

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Speaker 5: Amazon Prime actually loads up the content. For example, I

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Speaker 5: No, it's just outages, constant outages in my area.

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Speaker 1: have a discount on the new Nest thermostat. I believe

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Speaker 1: week's newsletter. I think it's Google home at Google dot

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Speaker 2: Something like that.

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Speaker 1: But just look, just search Nest Learning Thermostat fourth gen

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Speaker 1: and it typically sells for about two hundred and forty dollars.

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Speaker 1: But if you have one of the old ones, I

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Speaker 1: think you got a deal to like upgrade, like for

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Speaker 1: like one fifty. Vicky is in San Diego. Vicky, are

444
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Speaker 1: you there? You're on with Rich Hi? Rich Hi.

445
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Speaker 7: I'm having problems setting up audio connecting my Samsung TV

446
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Speaker 7: to my Kenwood A MS SUM receiver.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's the problem.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm getting I'm not getting any sound I've got

449
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Speaker 7: I'm using a converter, an analog to digital converter, okay,

450
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Speaker 7: and I've got that all hooked up correctly with the cables.

451
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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's a setting that I'm not

452
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Speaker 7: setting right. I've spent hours on the phone with Samsung.

453
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Speaker 1: I've been back and wait, you've spent hours on the

454
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Speaker 1: phone with Samsung. You expect me to know the answer

455
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Speaker 1: to this. If they couldn't figure it out, what makes

456
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Speaker 1: you think I can? Okay, So let me get this straight.

457
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Speaker 1: You've got the TV and you've got this receiver. Where

458
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Speaker 1: does that con come in? What are you converting with?

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Speaker 7: It's an old, old ken Wood AMFM receiver okay, And

460
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Speaker 7: I'm using the RCA red and.

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Speaker 1: White jack okay, out out from the receiver, the red

462
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Speaker 1: and white jacks to what.

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Speaker 7: My son to the optical. That's what I need the

464
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Speaker 7: analog converter for. And then I have the optical cable

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Speaker 7: from the converter into the TV.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the optical so the little converter converts it

467
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Speaker 1: into an optical signal. Yeah, and it's an out. Your

468
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: shirt's an out yeah, okay? And do you have any

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Speaker 1: other options on the back of that thing.

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Speaker 7: No, just HDMI. But I can't use HDMI because the

471
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Speaker 7: receiver's so old, and that's what my speakers are hooked

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Speaker 7: up to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got the speakers hooked up, so you

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Speaker 1: want to do Okay, Well, here's the thing. So if

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Speaker 1: your speakers are hooked up to HG, you can't have both.

476
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Speaker 1: You can't have optical and HDMI at the same time.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem with your TV, oh have You can

478
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Speaker 1: only have one input at a time, or one output

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Speaker 1: rather well sorry, one input. So you're doing You're you're

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Speaker 1: going optical out of this little converter into the TV.

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Speaker 7: I'm going from the optical cable on the back of

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Speaker 7: the TV to the optical box, right, and then the

483
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Speaker 7: optical box has the red and white cables that go

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Speaker 7: from the optical box into the receiver.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so if you are going optical into the TV,

486
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Speaker 1: that would be the input. See that's interesting. Are you

487
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Speaker 1: sure this the TV? The optical is the input for

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Speaker 1: the TV. You've got that set up?

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Speaker 7: Yes, because I can see it. I've got two choices.

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Speaker 7: I can use the TV speaker, it can use optical,

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Speaker 7: So I keep changing the seting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, optical.

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Speaker 1: Optical typically means out because that's usually you're connecting that

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Speaker 1: to a sound bar. Are you sure it says optical in?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean on the convert itself. There's two choices.

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Speaker 1: I can use co X so optical or right they

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Speaker 1: can Okay, So here's what I think is happening. I

498
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Speaker 1: think that your TV is the optical is an out,

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Speaker 1: and that's where you would connect it to a third

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Speaker 1: party like receiver or soundbar using like my TV, I

501
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Speaker 1: haven't connected to my soundbar using the optical out. So

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Speaker 1: you would have to ensure that this TV has an

503
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Speaker 1: optical in, which means you're using that to connect to

504
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Speaker 1: your TV with that optical in sound input. I don't

505
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Speaker 1: know if that's the case, if your TV can handle that.

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Speaker 1: Your TV doesn't have on the back, doesn't have any

507
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Speaker 1: other way to connect. So you're trying to get the

508
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Speaker 1: sound from this receiver to the TV. Is that what's happening?

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Speaker 7: You're trying to get that I'm trying to get my

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Speaker 7: TV to play on my speakers.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, so I'm confused.

512
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Speaker 1: So the receiver, you're going from the TV to this

513
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Speaker 1: little box then to the receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, so it is. Okay, so it's the out.

515
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Speaker 1: I thought you were trying to get your your radio,

516
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Speaker 1: your AMFM tuner into the TV and then out. Okay,

517
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Speaker 1: So your speakers are connected to the HDMI on your TV.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, my speakers are connected to the receiver.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got it?

520
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Speaker 7: Three old old think all like thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So here here's what I think you

522
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Speaker 1: need to do. I think that you you got to

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Speaker 1: go from the TV to this little box and that

524
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Speaker 1: that little that that signal is coming out through the

525
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Speaker 1: optical into that box, and that box should take that

526
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Speaker 1: optical and then send it into your receiver. The thing

527
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Speaker 1: you need to make sure is that your TV says

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Speaker 1: optical out in the sound settings. You cannot use two

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Speaker 1: different settings for the for the audio out on this TV.

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Speaker 8: Yeah it does.

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Speaker 7: It says optical out okay. And I can even see

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Speaker 7: the bars, like the sound bars moving on the optical setting.

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Speaker 7: But there's just no found.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the sound is not making it. So the

535
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Speaker 1: sound is going out through the optical cable and it's

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Speaker 1: making it that little converter box.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure this converter box works?

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Speaker 8: I just bought it.

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Speaker 7: This is my second one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the thing I think might be the problem.

541
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Speaker 1: And then you're sure. You're going from the converter box

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Speaker 1: and it's sending a signal out through those cables into

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Speaker 1: the receiver.

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Speaker 2: Is that right the light screen?

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Speaker 7: So I mean, there's not much to the converter box.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I would say pretty sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, cool, Yeah, I'm looking at these little converter boxes.

548
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Speaker 1: It's got yeah av okay, so HDMI it's got okay,

549
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: a lot of different things, and you're.

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Speaker 2: Powered the Insignia it's the Insignia one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's I'm it's really tough to figure this out

552
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Speaker 1: without seeing what's happening here, without seeing the actual cables.

553
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Speaker 1: But I think the as long as you're going out

554
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Speaker 1: from the TV, like the audio output is set as

555
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Speaker 1: that optical and you're going into that box and that

556
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Speaker 1: box is sending the signal to your receiver, it should

557
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Speaker 1: work as long as that receiver can tune into those

558
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Speaker 1: RCAA you know, inputs that you're putting it on and

559
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: then it's going out to the speaker, so it should work.

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Speaker 2: In theory.

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Speaker 1: What I would recommend is trying a different connection. Maybe

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Speaker 1: ordering a box that does HDMI out to h like

563
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Speaker 1: HDMI to RCA, if you can do that, and then

564
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Speaker 1: you can use the HDMI connector on your TV. They

565
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: have something called Arc Hdmi RC and that would probably

566
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Speaker 1: be a more an easier way to one of the

567
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Speaker 1: look on your back of your TV.

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Speaker 2: If one of the HDMI.

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Speaker 1: Ports is labeled ARC, that means you can connect a

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Speaker 1: converter to that HDMI and do the sound of output

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Speaker 1: that way, and I think that that would probably work better. Okay,

572
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: so I know it's a little bit of a pain,

573
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Speaker 1: but you know, you're trying to troubleshoot here, and it's

574
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Speaker 1: really tricky without seeing it and without me testing it.

575
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Speaker 2: But you can just order.

576
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Speaker 1: You know, one of these things is fifteen bucks. It's

577
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: worth ordering it, trying that and seeing if it works.

578
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Speaker 1: And you got to make sure that you're this little

579
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: box you got the conversion is the right way, Like

580
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: make sure it's going from optical to the av port.

581
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at this one that I'm seeing right here,

582
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: and it looks like it's going from RCA. It looks

583
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: like it's converting the other way. The input is the RCA,

584
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: the output is the optical So I would just make

585
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: sure that your system is set up properly and that

586
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: this little box is actually is converting things the right way.

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Speaker 2: Did it ever work? Did this set up ever work?

588
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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 7: It See I moved. I moved, and I had it

590
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Speaker 7: set up before, and ever since I've moved, I can't

591
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Speaker 7: get it set up right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if you had it set up before, then

593
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Speaker 1: everything I'm saying about this not being the right box

594
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: is move because it's just a matter of the connections.

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Speaker 1: So what I would do is restart your TV, make

596
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: sure the optical out is selected, make sure everything is

597
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: connected to the proper inputs and outputs. Check to labels

598
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: again it should work, and make sure that your system

599
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: is running on that right, that right input when you

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Speaker 1: go to the RCA cables complicated question, Vicky, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: that's happening to you. I have faith in you, though

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Speaker 1: I don't have faith in myself because if Samsung couldn't

603
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Speaker 1: figure it.

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Speaker 2: Out, I mean yeah.

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Speaker 1: get to the gadget of the week. I love this thing.

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Speaker 1: It's super cool, the HP film scan five touch screen

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Speaker 1: film scanner. Now, if you listen to the show very closely,

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Speaker 1: you'll notice one of my guests last week mention this

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Speaker 1: and I happen to have it in my place, you know,

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Speaker 1: in my lab for testing, and so I pulled it out,

626
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Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, now's the time to

627
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Speaker 1: test because she said she likes it. Let me try

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Speaker 1: this thing out. And sure enough, I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: But I did find some negatives around my house. I

630
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Speaker 1: was gonna ask like my in laws to see if

631
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Speaker 1: they had some but I couldn't believe the first place

632
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Speaker 1: I looked, the first box I checked, I found negatives.

633
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Speaker 2: Old school, Remember, you.

634
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Speaker 1: Used to get your pictures back in an envelope and

635
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Speaker 1: it came with the pictures in the back and the

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Speaker 1: negatives in the front. And my mom always was like,

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Speaker 1: don't touch the negatives, you'll ruin them. And think about this,

638
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Speaker 1: When you took pictures back in the day, you had

639
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Speaker 1: to wait to see what was on that role at

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Speaker 1: the end. How wild is that now to think about

641
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Speaker 1: that now, I'm not kidding.

642
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: I was at dinner the other night.

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Speaker 1: I watched these teenagers take about seven hundred and fifty

644
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: selfies before they picked the right one they were gonna post. Now,

645
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: it's so different than it was back in the day.

646
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: You'd take a bunch of pictures, half of that role

647
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: what was it, twenty four pictures on a roll, maybe

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Speaker 1: some more. Half of them would just be garbage. They

649
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: were literally just throwaways, and you'd be like, oh, I

650
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: thought that was a better picture anyway. So this thing

651
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: is great because all you have to do is take

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Speaker 1: the slide. You don't even need a computer, and it

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Speaker 1: has a nice five inch screen on it. You put

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Speaker 1: the slide into a little tray and it takes slides

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Speaker 1: or negatives. You put it into the side, it shows

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Speaker 1: up on the screen and then you just press the

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Speaker 1: capture button. It works with thirty five millimeter film one

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Speaker 1: ten and one twenty six. You can view it, you

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Speaker 1: can crop it, you can fine tune things. But you

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Speaker 1: can do all that in your computer anyway later. But

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Speaker 1: the coolest thing about this is that it's a touchscreen,

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Speaker 1: so it's really easy to use compared to all the

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Speaker 1: other ones on Amazon that are much more you know,

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Speaker 1: button based, and you're sitting there tapping all these buttons.

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Speaker 1: So you pop a memory card into the back, you

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Speaker 1: press that capture button. It puts the file right onto

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Speaker 1: that memory card. Then you can put that memory card

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Speaker 1: on your computer, or you can put it on your phone.

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Speaker 1: If you have an Android or iPhone, you can just

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Speaker 1: plug that right into the bottom of your phone using

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Speaker 1: a memory card reader.

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Speaker 2: I did this.

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Speaker 1: You can see my video where I test this out

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at rich On Tech and it's just super cool.

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Speaker 1: And I found an old picture of me and my

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Speaker 1: wife in Cabo. Can you believe that we were at

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Speaker 1: the world's smallest bar anyway, So you put this stuff in,

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Speaker 1: you archive it and it's just a great way to

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Speaker 1: digitize your pictures. It's two hundred and thirty dollars on Amazon.

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Speaker 1: I will admit it was a little cheaper during Prime Day,

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Speaker 1: so if you got it during Prime Day, you did well.

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Speaker 1: But watch for this over the holidays. It's not something

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Speaker 1: you need to buy right now, but just watch for

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Speaker 1: a good price drop over the holidays because we know

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Speaker 1: it went cheaper, so you know it's going to drop

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Speaker 1: at some point again. Anyway, it's called the HP film

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Speaker 1: Scan five inch touchscreen at film Scanner. That is this

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Speaker 1: a limited time only. All right, If you are downloading Sora,

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Speaker 1: you've heard of Sora, right. This is the app that

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Speaker 1: lets you make videos AI generated videos. It is invite only.

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Speaker 1: Be care There are dozens of fake Sora and Sora

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Speaker 1: two apps on the app store, and I know that

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Speaker 1: asking me for my invite code. I give it to

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Speaker 1: you're probably using it in a bogus app. So be

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Speaker 1: careful when you download this app. Make sure you get

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Speaker 1: the actual app that is called Sora two. And you

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Speaker 1: should know that it's Sora, the actual app. Let me

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Speaker 1: get I'm going to the actual app store right now.

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Speaker 1: It should say underneath it Sora by open Ai, a

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Speaker 1: new video app by open Ai.

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Speaker 2: Open Ai.

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Speaker 1: It's the number one video right now in photo and video.

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Speaker 1: It might be the number one video on the app

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Speaker 1: Store at this point because it's it's been trending. They

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Speaker 1: So just be careful. Do not just download any Sora app.

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Speaker 1: Make sure the developer name is open AI eight to

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Speaker 1: a rich one oh one eight to eight seven four

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. We'll take your calls. Coming

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Speaker 1: up right after the break. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demurou here hanging out with you, talking technology Triple

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Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. Got a lot going

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Speaker 1: on this hour. We've got some great guests. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Ashton Bingham and Art Koulik, founders of Trilogy Media,

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Speaker 1: and they have a new show called Scam to Getting Even.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna talk about how to spot fraud, fight back,

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Speaker 1: and protect yourself from these scams that are happening every day.

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Speaker 1: You would not believe how many. Well actually you probably

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Speaker 1: would believe it because you see them every day. It's

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Speaker 1: just unbelievable, and people fall for him, they really do.

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Speaker 1: If you go there's the Better Business Bureau actually has

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Speaker 1: a great website. Called Scam Tracker. So if you just

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Speaker 1: want to browse through scams that are happening, you can.

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Speaker 1: You can just literally go there and just look up,

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Speaker 1: look up a scam, and you'll see all these scams

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Speaker 1: that these people online purchase bulk Jersey Supply website. I

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Speaker 1: ordered a shirt from this company, and after repeated attempts

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Speaker 1: to reach them, they after a month, they said it

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Speaker 1: would take longer and longer. Then they sent an email

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Speaker 1: to all customers with their personal information saying we know

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Speaker 1: you're waiting, YadA YadA, YadA, and anyway, they lost fifty

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Speaker 2: You can just go and they go on and on

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Speaker 2: and on.

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Speaker 1: We got lots of replies about Vicky's question with the

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Speaker 1: receiver and the TV Ron in California says if Vicki's

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Speaker 1: system was working before, she should double check every button

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Speaker 1: and setting on her receiver, especially the tape monitor switch.

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Speaker 1: If that's pressed in, she won't hear any sound. Randy

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Speaker 1: writes in make sure all the cables are correct from

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Speaker 1: the TV to the converter box and from the converter

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Speaker 1: to the receiver. Then confirm the receiver is set to

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Speaker 1: the right input source to hear the TV audio and

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Speaker 1: then JP says, ask Vicky what she plugged the RCA

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Speaker 1: JAX into on her receiver. On some older models, the

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Speaker 1: signal won't reach the amplifier. So there you go a

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Speaker 1: couple of suggestions there. Let's go to Lisa eighty eight

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Speaker 1: rich one oh one eighty eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four one zero one. Lisa is in Los Angeles. You're

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Speaker 1: on with Rich Hi Rich hiight.

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Speaker 9: Good to talk to you. Fabulous show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: I also get the newsletter.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that double bonus. Where's my bell? Double

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Speaker 1: double double bonus?

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Speaker 9: Okay. So I have an HP laptop that's like five

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Speaker 9: years old. Okay, it's Windows ten okay, and it would

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Speaker 9: not allow me to upgrade to Windows eleven. Okay, So

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Speaker 9: much to my Chagarin. I go out and I decide

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Speaker 9: I'm going to buy a Mac laptop.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good choice.

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Speaker 9: Two or three days later, Microsoft comes out and says, oh,

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Speaker 9: we're gonna support ten for the next year. You just

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Speaker 9: have to do ABCD, go down the list and do

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Speaker 9: all that stuff. So I thought, well, okay, I'm going

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Speaker 9: to do it. I did it. They said you're now supported.

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Speaker 9: Do you know how secure that is?

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Speaker 1: It's as secure as it can be. You got one

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Speaker 1: more year. But now here's the thing. Are you in

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Speaker 1: your return period for the laptop?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, then just return it, return it and just stay

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Speaker 1: with this for a year, if you know.

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Speaker 9: But the next year, yeah, I'm gonna want it. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I got to decide.

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Speaker 1: You got to decide. I mean, did you buy it

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Speaker 1: from the Apple Store or somewhere else? Okay, you only

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Speaker 1: have fourteen days and they do not charge a restocking

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Speaker 1: fee as far as I know on the laptops, So

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Speaker 1: I mean you're in a good place if are you

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Speaker 1: good with the Mac?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, don't get it. Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: I love the Mac too. Like I'm I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: I guess it really comes down to the money. Do

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Speaker 1: you care about spending the money on the laptop?

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Speaker 9: Und I had put the money aside for the Mac

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Speaker 9: because I knew this was coming.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at you, I love you. What what a

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Speaker 2: great planner.

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Speaker 8: I try.

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Speaker 9: I try till Microsoft pops up and says, oh, you'll

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Speaker 9: have one more year.

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Speaker 1: You just spend one thousand bucks and now you don't have.

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Speaker 9: To thank you, So I just kept to figure it out.

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Speaker 9: But I'm I'm loving the Mac and.

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Speaker 2: Demaca is great. What'd you get the small one?

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Speaker 9: The thirteenth I got the fifteen in fifteen inch MacBook

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Speaker 9: air Yees, yeah, I mean, great laptop.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's going to serve you for a

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Speaker 1: good probably eight to ten years, I think on that side.

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Speaker 9: Oh that's good to hear they tell me.

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Speaker 1: But well, I mean they they the software might be

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Speaker 1: supported for a certain amount of time, but Apple, you

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Speaker 1: know the thing will work for much longer. But you know,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. So what you're talking about with the

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Speaker 1: with the Windows end of life, that's going to end

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Speaker 1: on the fourteenth of October. So after that, if you're

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Speaker 1: not updated with this extended security updates, your computer could

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Speaker 1: be vulnerable. Now, once you do those updates, like you said,

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Speaker 1: you opted in, your computer will get security updates for

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Speaker 1: the next year until October twenty twenty six. So what

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00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 1: I've advised people to do is definitely hop on either

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Speaker 1: upgrade your computer Windows eleven if it lets you do

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Speaker 1: the extended security software updates. If you can't do that,

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Speaker 1: and then you have a year to plan for a

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Speaker 1: new computer. Now, in your case, you already went out

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Speaker 1: and bought the new computer. You've already got it. You

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Speaker 1: just have to decide do you want to wait until

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Speaker 1: next year to rebuy this computer or do you just

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Speaker 1: want to cut your losses now and just you know, recycle.

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Speaker 3: The Windows machine.

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Speaker 2: So, but you have an option.

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Speaker 1: You You've got your time to decide this, and there

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Speaker 1: is no right decision here. Obviously the Mac is going

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Speaker 1: to be nice and fast and smooth and up to date.

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Speaker 9: In mind, No I noticed the difference.

871
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: So maybe that's the answer you.

872
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: If you're already liking what you're using and you've already

873
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: spent the money, you know, maybe just stick with it.

874
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 9: My husband might get the HP for the next year.

875
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: There you go, now you're talking give him the old one? Ouch?

876
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 9: All right, Rich, thank you so much. I appreciate it,

877
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 9: all right.

878
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: Lisa, enjoy no matter what, no matter what. You can't

879
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: make a wrong decision there. I mean, if you're using

880
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: a brand new Mac, you're gonna love it. And if

881
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: you're using the HP for the next year, it's familiar.

882
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: It's gonna run a lot slower, but at least you're

883
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: protected from yea, all that stuff. So yeah, if you're

884
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: looking to uh, if you've got a Windows ten computer,

885
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: the way you know you have Windows ten. Okay, go

886
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: to your little computer. Go to your Windows computer. Press

887
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: the Windows key on your keyboard. If you press that

888
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: key and your menu pops up in the middle of

889
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: your computer, you're good. You're on Windows eleven. No need

890
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: to think about anything. If it shows up on the

891
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 1: left hand side, left corner of your screen, that menu

892
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: pops up there when you press the Windows key, that

893
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: means you're running Windows ten. Now, before you email me

894
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: and you say Rich, you can change where the menu

895
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: pops up on Windows eleven.

896
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: It can go to the left. I know.

897
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: But most people that I'm talking about right now that

898
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: are trying to figure out they're running Windows ten or eleven,

899
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't know how to do that, so

900
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: they're not moving the menu to the left. That's why

901
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: I can say that with confidence that if it pops

902
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: up on the left, you're probably running Windows ten. Pops

903
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: up in the middle, you're running Windows eleven. You don't

904
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: have to think about it. So what you need to

905
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: do if you're running Windows ten, you've only got a

906
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: couple of days here, You've got to enroll in these

907
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: extended security updates that'll give you one more year of

908
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: updates security only on your computer before you know you

909
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: have to buy a new computer next year.

910
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: So there you go.

911
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Great call eighty to eight rich one on one eighty

912
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Natalie

913
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: writes in listening to the podcast, I've never cracked a

914
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: phone screen before, but now it's happened to my Motorola

915
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: Edge twenty twenty four. The damage isn't terrible, just some

916
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: hairline cracks and a couple deeper ones on the side,

917
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: but the repair quotes shocked me. Diy kits run about

918
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars and repair shops one hundred and fifty

919
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: or more. Since the phone still works fine, I'm torn

920
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: between just fixing it or fixing it and just living

921
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: with it until I upgrade. Any advice on whether that

922
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: cost is worth it, Natalie, I think it's worth it

923
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: because number one, hairline cracks and deeper cracks turn into

924
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: larger cracks, and the reason is because the integrity of

925
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: that screen is now forever ruined. And this is what happens.

926
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: People drop their phone, they say, oh, my phone's fine,

927
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: Oh Whoo, I escape that one. You drop it again, Oh,

928
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: I escape that one. The third time you drop it, boom,

929
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: the whole thing shatters. The reason is because there were

930
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: tiny little cracks and the integrity of that screen was

931
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: probably implicat impacted by the other falls. So you can

932
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: drop your phone one hundred times and nothing happens. It

933
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: only takes one time where you drop it on a

934
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: certain angle, or you drop it and it just hits

935
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: things just right, and those stress fractures ruin it, so

936
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: it could turn into more. I personally don't like using

937
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: a crack screen at all. I think it's really annoying.

938
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: I actually don't think one hundred and fifty dollars is

939
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: that bad. The problem is, I think if you're getting

940
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty quote, i'd want to get it

941
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: done at a place that warranties the repair. So if

942
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: you have a place like a U break I fixed,

943
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: they will give you a free quote. I don't think

944
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars sounds that bad if you

945
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: can really get it fixed for that much, but make

946
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: sure it's not like sort of a fly by night

947
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: place that you're never going to see again. If it's

948
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: a place in the mall, make sure that they're there.

949
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: They've been there for a long time. If it's a

950
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: local place, make sure they've been there. But ask about

951
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: the warranty, like, hey, if this thing cracks again, what

952
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: are my well, you know, can you replace it again

953
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: for free? See what they say. I'm not sure what

954
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: the answer to that is. But also put a screen

955
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: protector on this thing too, if you can. I know

956
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: it's a Motoral Edge. Is that I think that's uh,

957
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: let's see what that looks like. Okay, so this is

958
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: just yeah, I would get a screen protector for this

959
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: phone as well, once you get the screen replaced, I

960
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: would do that now this Uh okay, now I see

961
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: why you're Okay, you can buy a brand new Motorol

962
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: Edge twenty twenty four for two hundred and ninety nine bucks.

963
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: In that case, I don't really think one hundred and

964
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: fifty dollars repair is worth it. I might just get

965
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: a new phone or deal with this until you need

966
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: to get a new phone, because that's that's fifty percent

967
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: of the price of the phone. Now I know why

968
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: you were So you were wondering about that. Okay, that

969
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: makes much more sense. Let's see here what we got

970
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: less than a minute debian, California. Here's an easy one.

971
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: I love your show on KFI and your segments on KTLA.

972
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: I still have an iPhone seven and want to upgrade.

973
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which model makes sense. I don't use

974
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: my phone for business or heavy camera work, mostly every

975
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: day things like web browsing and photos. What would you recommend?

976
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: iPhone sixteen E? For sure, iPhone sixteen E is the

977
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: standard basic iPhone. It's still great. It actually is really

978
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: really good for the price. One camera, basic specs, but

979
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 1: you're gonna get everything you need, so it's still gonna

980
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: have a nice screen. Doesn't have that always on display

981
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: as far as I know, does it No, So you're

982
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: not getting that. But I think you're gonna be just

983
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: fine with the sixteen E. And the price is pretty good.

984
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: The retail price is about six hundred bucks, but you

985
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: could probably get it for about one hundred dollars cheaper

986
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: at Carrier stores or maybe even on Amazon. So iPhone

987
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: sixteen E DEBI is probably the phone that you want.

988
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: It's got all the modern features, but not that expensive.

989
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: Eighty eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

990
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. If you want

991
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: to email, just go to the website. Rich on tech

992
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: dot TV. Got a burning question, just hit contact right there. Uh,

993
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: and you should get that right to your screen. Anything

994
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: else is burning. Uh, that's not something I can answer.

995
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: That's not my department, rich on tech dot TV.

996
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

997
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on tech. Let's go to Kevin

998
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: in San Clementy. Kevin, you're on with rich.

999
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 6: Good afternoon, rich. Let me get you off a speaker

1000
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 6: phone here. Anyway, I've got an issue. I came back

1001
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 6: after a trip for my computer and went to open up.

1002
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 6: I've got two Gmail accounts and both of them did

1003
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 6: the same thing. I go to log in and Gmail

1004
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 6: comes up and says, you know, uh, just please be

1005
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 6: advised that we collect this, this, this, and this. It

1006
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 6: was a bunch of personal things that they said they

1007
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 6: collect and I had to either accept or decline. I

1008
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 6: had hit decline and I could not get into my

1009
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 6: email account. So what I hit accept, went back and

1010
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 6: hit accept. They didn't let me into my email account.

1011
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 6: But the things that they wanted to collect, I don't

1012
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 6: agree with. What are my options?

1013
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: What are they ask?

1014
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: What are they saying what do they want to collect.

1015
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 6: They want to collect telephone numbers, get into my address book,

1016
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 6: account information. I mean it was a laundry I'm not

1017
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 6: in front of it right now, but it was a

1018
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 6: laundry list of personal things that I don't want out there.

1019
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay, well, okay, it depends is it was it a

1020
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: scam or was it legitimate from Google?

1021
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 6: It was legitimate from Google. Okay.

1022
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: So here's the deal.

1023
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: If if you're using a free product, they they do

1024
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: ask for things in exchange. So could it be that

1025
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: you set up this Google account a long time ago? Yes, okay,

1026
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: so probably when you set up this Google account, they

1027
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: did not require as many things to identify you as

1028
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: they do now. And without seeing what they're asking for,

1029
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, you're saying account info. I don't know what

1030
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: that means, Like that's you know, like what accounting for?

1031
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Are they asking for? The things that they would typically

1032
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: ask for would be things like your name, maybe your address,

1033
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: your phone number, your email. You know, those are the

1034
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: identifiers that they would typically want.

1035
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: I believe was even okay.

1036
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 2: Date of birth.

1037
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: That is that's legitimate because you know, here's the thing

1038
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: that's happened in the past couple of years since all

1039
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: these account creations happened. Is that back in the day,

1040
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: they they were in a growth phase, right, and so

1041
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: they wanted as many people to sign up as fast

1042
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: as humanly possible so that they can go back to

1043
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: their investors and say, hey, we've got one hundred million

1044
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: people using Gmail. We've got two hundred billion people, you know,

1045
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Now number one, people have gotten very

1046
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: savvy with privacy, and you know, there's also things that

1047
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: have happened. You know, we saw that Cambridge Analytica thing

1048
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: with Facebook, where you know, there's a lot of information

1049
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: out there, and these companies are now asking for more

1050
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: because they're also protecting themselves because of all these new

1051
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: privacy laws that are coming into effect, especially over in Europe.

1052
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: We don't really have too many in the US, but

1053
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: because these companies operate globally, they are now doing everything

1054
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: on a national scale, so are a worldwide scale. So

1055
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: I think that it's probably trying to fill in some

1056
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: of the information that it did not have on you

1057
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: so that it could then sell more things to you

1058
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: or monetize your account more.

1059
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 6: So, could I excu me, can I go into the

1060
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 6: personal settings, then on Google and decline individual things within

1061
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 6: the account.

1062
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: Once I'm in, I'm looking right now to see what

1063
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: I have so basic info. It's got my name, my birthday,

1064
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: my gender, contact info, phone number, addresses, IDs, profiles, and

1065
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: then password. So I think it really you can see

1066
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: what they'll let you get rid of. I'm not sure

1067
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: that you know they'll let you get rid of. I

1068
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: have twelve phone numbers in here. Oh my gosh, it's

1069
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 1: a lot of phone numbers verified. And Italian phone number

1070
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: is verified in my account. Okay, I don't That was

1071
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: probably when I went to Italy and they Yeah, so

1072
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: Google is trying, you know, they're trying to get as

1073
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: much information as they can. You can go in there

1074
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: and see what you can delete about you, but you

1075
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: know it does want personal information. It does want certain

1076
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: information data. Birth is going to be tricky because you

1077
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: know they want that for protection reasons. Like they had

1078
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: this whole thing where they're basically using AI to figure

1079
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: out teens birthdays because either parents sign up for their

1080
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: kids or the kids sign up themselves. They put a

1081
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: fake birthday in so that they can be eighteen and

1082
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: not have to deal with all these different parameters. And

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Speaker 1: security and privacy settings and protections, and then Google says, well,

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Speaker 1: hold on, you know, we need to make things that

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Speaker 1: work for teams, we need to make things that work

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Speaker 1: for adults, and so we do need to know your birthday.

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Speaker 1: So I would say it is a trade off. If

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Speaker 1: you want to pay for your own email account, right,

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00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: then you can go on and buy a service that

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Speaker 1: may require less information, that's more private, that doesn't sell

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Speaker 1: your data.

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Speaker 2: But you are using.

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Speaker 1: Google, and if you're using Google, if you're using Facebook,

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00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: if you're using Instagram, if you using TikTok, these are

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00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: all free services that you know, they monetize you as

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Speaker 1: a person, like your data is what they make money

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Speaker 1: off of. So if you're not comfortable with giving them

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Speaker 1: that data and you know, then you might have to

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Speaker 1: switch to a different service to get that same level

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Speaker 1: of whatever you're getting. Now, with all that said, whenever

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00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: you're signing up things for things, always give the least

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Speaker 1: amount of personal data, and that is always what I'd recommend. So,

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00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: and you can even sign up those websites like cloaked

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00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: dot com, which you can create entirely new not identities almost,

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00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: but kind of where you can make up a phone number,

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00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: you can put in a new phone number, new email address.

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00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: It's all one time use. So if you really want

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00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: to get private about this stuff, you can you can

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00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: do that. There's also another great website called privacy dot com,

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00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: and this thing is great because it basically connects. It

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00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: does connect to your bank account or maybe your debit

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00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: card one or the other, but you have to you

1113
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: can't use a credit card with it. But basically it

1114
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: generates one time debit cards that you can use to

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00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: sign up for products. So if you sign up for

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00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: a free trial, chances are you're going to forget to

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00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: cancel if you use this privacy card. It's like a

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00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: one time use. It'll just not work when they go

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00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 1: to charge you. Privacy dot com really really cool. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the question, Kevin, do appreciate it. Coming up, we're

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00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: going to talk about how to protect yourself from some

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Speaker 1: of the biggest scams out there. Welcome back to rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology.

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Speaker 1: Triple A rich one O one eight eight A seven

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Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one links to everything

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Speaker 1: I mentioned in today's show. Go to rich on Tech

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Speaker 1: dot tv. Hit episodes at the top. This is episode

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Speaker 1: number one four two oh one four three Episode one

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Speaker 1: four three.

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Speaker 2: All right, joining me.

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00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: Now, we've got some guests to talk about scams. I love, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I like talk. Okay, let's see what's happening here. I

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00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: am I hearing myself. Oh that's why. Okay, I'm there.

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Speaker 1: We go, Thank you, Bobo. Uh yeah, this is my

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Speaker 1: first day doing this. Why not make mistakes? Ashton Bingham

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00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: and Art Koulik, founders of Trilogy Media, stars of Fox

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Speaker 1: Nations Scammed getting even Welcome to the show, guys, Thank.

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00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 10: You for having Thank you so much for having us.

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00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: Uh so, tell me, well, first off, how did you

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00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: guys meet up? And how did you start this Trilogy Media?

1141
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: And what is that? Exactly?

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00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 3: Go ahead?

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00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 11: Art, I mean I was literally like kinpointing on Ashton. Well,

1144
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 11: trulygy media. We opened Trilogy Media as production company.

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Speaker 3: Me and Ashton.

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Speaker 11: We came to Los Angeles, California to do specifically creating content,

1147
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 11: being in filmmaking business, and then you know, everything was amazing.

1148
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Speaker 11: We created company twenty sixteen and my brother Ashton, we

1149
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,479
Speaker 11: used to be a roommates. He he answered robo call

1150
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 11: and that scam robo call change the curse of the

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Speaker 11: direction of what we've been doing in the past ten years.

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Speaker 2: What was the robo call?

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Speaker 10: It was one of those you know, and they call

1154
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 10: you and say that your taxes are overdue and you're

1155
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 10: going to be arrested. And I mean, I knew it

1156
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 10: was a scam, but you know, we opened this company,

1157
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 10: we had no intention of going into scam dating. We

1158
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 10: kind of fell into it because that video that I

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00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 10: posted of that call when insanely viral, and we just, like,

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Speaker 10: you know what, we have the drive in the in

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Speaker 10: the dreams, we just didn't have the vehicle, and scambating

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00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 10: was the perfect vehicle of being able to do something

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Speaker 10: where we could be who we are on our terms

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Speaker 10: with our personalities, but also do something that like really

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00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 10: was important and raise awareness and use a platform to

1166
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 10: actually like help people and you know, make these scams

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Speaker 10: more in the public eye about how deep and dark

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00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 10: they are and how much more complicated than most people realize.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So what okay, So first off, defines scam bating, What

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00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: does that mean exactly?

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Speaker 10: Well, scam bating is basically the art of I don't

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 10: know why my picture is delaying here, Sorry, maybe'll turn

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00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 10: the camera the art of wasting a scammer's time in

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 10: the sense that they will think they have what will

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Speaker 10: be a profitable victim for them. But what we're really

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Speaker 10: doing is social engineering them to stay on the phone,

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Speaker 10: waste their time so they can't scam other people, and

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Speaker 10: most importantly, learn what it is they're trying to get

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Speaker 10: out of people, so that we can expose those methods

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Speaker 10: and warn people on what to look out for, and

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Speaker 10: hopefully at the end gather you know, identifying information about

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Speaker 10: the perpetrators. And in classic trilogy style, we love to

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00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 10: actually get outside, get boots on the ground, and actually

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00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 10: go find these people and confront them and hold them accountable.

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Speaker 1: So are these people in the US most of the

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Speaker 1: time or where are you going to find these people?

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Speaker 10: It's funny a lot of people kind of assume that

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00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 10: scams are only in like, you know, one corner of

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Speaker 10: the earth, or you know, you get a call with

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Speaker 10: someone with an Indian accent and the whole scam is

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Speaker 10: in India. There are yes, certain pockets of the world

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Speaker 10: where certain types of scams are more prolific just based

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Speaker 10: on their skill sets and everything, but there are scammers everywhere,

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Speaker 10: and especially one thing that we didn't even realize until

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Speaker 10: we really got into doing this, is that these scams,

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Speaker 10: although yes, there might be a call center in India,

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Speaker 10: they're using people all over the planet to facilitate this.

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Speaker 10: They have deals with Chinese mafia to launder the money.

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Speaker 10: They have cash mules here in the United States that

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Speaker 10: will go and collect the money from elderly victims. They

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Speaker 10: have people planted in the bank systems and in the

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Speaker 10: in the you know whatever. It might be working for

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00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 10: different companies that you know, can can give them an

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Speaker 10: inside look or an inside you know whatever into databases

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Speaker 10: of people's information or whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting you said that because I remember when this

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Speaker 1: there was like a hack, a SIM card hack or

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Speaker 1: SIM swapping attack, like you know, I think it was

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Speaker 1: a T mobile or one of these, But it came

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Speaker 1: out that like there was people on the inside, like you,

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00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: you're not really safe from this when there's people at

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00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: the company working there that are going to do the

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Speaker 1: scam or help the scammers.

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Speaker 10: And you know a lot of people think that, you know, oh,

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Speaker 10: I'm too smart to get scammed or I would never

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Speaker 10: fall forward.

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Speaker 3: It's so stupid.

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Speaker 11: Well it's not.

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Speaker 10: You look at it.

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Speaker 3: On one sentence on a piece of paper.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe it sounds stupid, but when you really dive

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00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 10: in and you're actually spending your time talking to these

1224
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 10: scammers and then more painfully talking to these victims, you're

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00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 10: learning about the real long term emotional manipulation that they

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Speaker 10: go through, and how complicated it is, and how many

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Speaker 10: degrees of separation there are between the victim and the scammer,

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Speaker 10: that it's really done by design that way, and you

1229
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 10: really start to learn why these things are so successful. Unfortunately,

1230
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 10: so we have to you know, we have to expose it.

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Speaker 10: We have to keep our you know, we have to

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Speaker 10: keep our elderly especially aware because that's the big target.

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Speaker 2: Is Yeah, is it fun art?

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Speaker 1: Is it fun to to you know, catch these people,

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Speaker 1: expose them and you know, kind of shed some light

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Speaker 1: on this stuff.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's well, the majority of the time, yes, it

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00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 11: is fun. But also, you know, when we're doing this

1239
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 11: kind of line of work, I don't even call this work.

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Speaker 3: We love what we do for a living.

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Speaker 11: It's it's literally dream. When we just got back from Nigeria,

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Speaker 11: we had treaped to India as well. When you go

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Speaker 11: to somebody else house and you go to the country

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Speaker 11: and you know, if it's a tech support, it's going

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 11: to be out of India. We've went to India when

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Speaker 11: somebody been scamming people and then been doing these successfully

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Speaker 11: for twenty five thirty years, and you come to their

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Speaker 11: house and you stop this procedure, right, they want to

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Speaker 11: kill you. So to answer your question, it's fun until

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01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 11: it's become danger Until it's becoming dangerous, you know. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: you have to just like you have to balance it out.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's scary.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I get it because I'm sure some

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Speaker 1: of this involves organized crime and things like that. So

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Speaker 1: what are the things that people need to watch out

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Speaker 1: for these days? Like what are you seeing kind of

1257
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: bubbling up? And are these little things that we see like,

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01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, we get these text messages, we get these

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01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: posts on Instagram, we get these emails. Is that really

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Speaker 1: where the scams are? Is it really the phone calls

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: that people get? Like, just give me some high level

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: of like what we need to watch out for right now?

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Speaker 10: Literally everything you can't trust anyone or anything. Yeah, whether

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01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 10: it's text messages, DMS, email, email, phone calls, it's it's

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01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 10: literally they're going to keep getting you from every way

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01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 10: that they can. And with the with AI growing the

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 10: way that it is, it's only going to get harder

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01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 10: to spot. But yeah, you know, a general rule, just

1269
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 10: don't anyone that's unsolicited reaching out to you for anything.

1270
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 10: You need to be skeptical. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Definitely,

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01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 10: don't click any links that you're sinn, especially if it's

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 10: a number you don't recognize, if it's a phone call,

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Speaker 10: like I don't even I mean, I answer my phone

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01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 10: for spam calls because that's what we do, but in general,

1275
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Speaker 10: in my day to day life, I don't even answer

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Speaker 10: numbers I don't recognize.

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Speaker 3: They can leave me a message.

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Speaker 10: I'll call them back if it's important, you know, they'll

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01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 10: they'll have my number. So, you know, you just got

1280
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 10: to be very careful about what people want, what they're

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 10: asking you to do, and don't just take their word

1282
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 10: for it. If they say they're with the DMV, if

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01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 10: they say they're with the I R S, you can't

1284
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 10: just take at face value. You know, it's you can

1285
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 10: never be afraid to ask questions and never be afraid

1286
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 10: to take your time and ask a loved one like

1287
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 10: don't ever especially elderly people remind them. Do not ever

1288
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 10: let anyone pressure you into anything. Scammers will play on

1289
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 10: your fears or your dreams, and a really good scam

1290
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 10: will do both. So being pressured, being rushed, being threatened

1291
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 10: always massive red flags and links. Be careful with links,

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01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 10: don't ever click them.

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Speaker 11: If you receive an email in duties and number to

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Speaker 11: call again, don't call the number. And no matter who

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Speaker 11: is calling, exactly like Ashan said, if.

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Speaker 5: It's j M V.

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Speaker 11: Sheriff who is coming to arrest you because you didn't

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Speaker 11: pay taxes, no matter what's happening, We're living in a

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Speaker 11: life that if you booking tickets, you're putting booking cruises,

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Speaker 11: you shopping on Amazon, no matter what's happening to you.

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Speaker 3: Do your own research.

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Speaker 11: If you got a message about from Amazon or from Netflix,

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Speaker 11: on from anything, don't don't take the word for it.

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Speaker 11: Don't trust anybody. Do your research. Go and put Netflix

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Speaker 11: dot com or whatever the website is, and call yourself.

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Speaker 11: Don't let Bank of America, chase bank whoever is claiming

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Speaker 11: to be or government officials. Find independent number online and

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Speaker 11: call that number. And this is it. And that's how

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Speaker 11: you know. If you're calling people and you're asking for help.

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Speaker 11: It means everything, okay, but if somebody is calling you

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Speaker 11: and urging you to do things, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gotten to the point where like if I

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Speaker 1: you know, any one that calls, like if it's you know,

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Speaker 1: one of these companies that you do business with, whether

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Speaker 1: it's your bank or credit card or an insurance company,

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Speaker 1: and they say, you know, we'd like to confirm some information,

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Speaker 1: I'm always like, hold on, wait a second, Like I

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Speaker 1: make sure that they're the ones. Well, most of the time,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of try to ignore the call, like

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Speaker 1: I'll just call back or something. But if they're if

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Speaker 1: they're trying to confirm information, like let's say a simple

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Speaker 1: scam could be like I call, you'd be like, okay,

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Speaker 1: let me just confirm some information, right, let me your

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Speaker 1: date of birth is what?

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Speaker 2: And then you tell me that and your social is what?

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Speaker 2: And then you tell me that.

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Speaker 1: Now I've got pretty much everything I need in like

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Speaker 1: less than five minutes, and before you even realize like,

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Speaker 1: oh wait, hold on, who is this person I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to again?

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Speaker 10: Well, that's the thing is when they're calling you is

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Speaker 10: when you need to be really careful. Even even if

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Speaker 10: your caller ID says that it is your bank, Like

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Speaker 10: if you recognize the number, that doesn't mean it's your bank.

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Speaker 10: Call spoofing is very easy to do, and you can

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Speaker 10: make your call, like if I got your mom's phone number,

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Speaker 10: I could spoof her number and call you right now

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Speaker 10: and make your phone would say your mom's calling you.

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Speaker 10: So the best thing to fight against that is hang

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Speaker 10: up and call them back, because when they're call spoofing,

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Speaker 10: they can only outbound the call, they can't receive it.

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Speaker 10: So you call the number on the back of your

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Speaker 10: credit card and you ask them do I have a

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Speaker 10: problem or was that fake?

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Speaker 3: And they will obviously let you know.

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Speaker 1: This is this AI voice stuff. We've only got a minute,

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Speaker 1: so I want to hear about the show real quick.

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Speaker 1: But is the AI voice stuff something to be worried

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Speaker 1: about too?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 10: People calling impersonating your I mean it used to be

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Speaker 10: where someone would call your grandma and say, you know, hey,

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Speaker 10: we have your son here. He's been arrested. They tried

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Speaker 10: this on my Gramdma that he's been arrested for DUI

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Speaker 10: he needs money. Of course that wasn't true. But now

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Speaker 10: it's to the point where they can listen to your voice,

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Speaker 10: especially someone like me who's online. You can find hours

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Speaker 10: and hours of my voice. They can clone it, they

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Speaker 10: can create it to say literally anything that they want to,

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Speaker 10: and you'll never know.

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Speaker 3: You'll never know who the hell you're talking to.

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Speaker 10: That's why it's important between families to have like a

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Speaker 10: pass code that only your family knows. You know, if

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Speaker 10: you're ever unsure who's calling or who's talking, if there's

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Speaker 10: an emergency, make sure you guys verify that between yourselves.

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Speaker 3: All Right.

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Speaker 1: The show is called Scammed Getting Even As on Fox Nation.

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Speaker 1: How do folks watch this?

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Speaker 10: Foxnation dot Com? At premiere is October twenty second. We

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Speaker 10: are so so freaking excited to be able to bring

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Speaker 10: scam bating and scam awareness to a mainstream level. It's

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Speaker 10: a six part, six episode season one, one episode every

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Speaker 10: Wednesday starting on the twenty second, and it's every episode

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Speaker 10: is very different, very exciting.

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Speaker 1: Exilit right, they're playing us off, Ashton Bingham and Art Koolik.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me today. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, you guys, guys.

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Speaker 1: All Right, more rich on Tech coming up right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you Talking Technology, triple A, rich one oh one.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Chat gibt got a big new feature this week. They've

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Speaker 1: got apps now built into chat gebt, so Booking, dot Com, Canva, Corsera, Expedia, Figma, Spotify, Zilo.

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Speaker 1: These are all things that you can now access inside

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Speaker 1: of chatchept, so it's kind of like a mini app

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Speaker 1: store that you can talk to in natural language. That

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Speaker 1: I think is the biggest takeaway from this is that

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Speaker 1: Spotify make me a workout playlist, which you can already

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Speaker 1: do on Spotify anyway, but I think the Zillo example

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Speaker 1: is the best one. So Zillo show me homes in

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Speaker 1: a city under a certain price with this many bedrooms

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Speaker 1: and walking distance to whatever a school, you know, a university.

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Speaker 1: So again it's natural language. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: what we have been waiting for when it comes to

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Speaker 1: interacting with our computers. And I think this is part

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Speaker 1: of the reason why chat gbt has become so popular

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Speaker 1: and so incredibly useful for so many people very quickly.

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Speaker 1: It's because you don't need to read an instruction manual

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Speaker 1: to learn how to use it. You just talk to

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Speaker 1: it and you can do a lot of stuff just

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Speaker 1: by talking. You could do a lot of stuff just

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Speaker 1: by pasting in some data and it figures out what

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Speaker 1: you're trying to do. Peloton, Target, Uber, and open Table

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Speaker 1: are also coming later this year.

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Speaker 2: So what does this mean.

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Speaker 1: This means that you can now use all of these

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Speaker 1: apps without actually opening the app. So we're getting to

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Speaker 1: a point where you're gonna be able to do say

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Speaker 1: to chat GBT, hey can you reserve me a table

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Speaker 1: at Peter Steakhouse Thursday night at eight pm? And it

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Speaker 1: will go out and it will do that for you.

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Speaker 1: Can you find me this product at Target and order

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Speaker 1: it for me? And because your account is linked up,

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Speaker 1: it'll be able to do all that stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is really really powerful. I just I find this

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Speaker 1: to be really really incredible. So anyway, check it out

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Speaker 1: Chat GBT. If you're using it, all you have to

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Speaker 1: do to activate this. It's not on my app just yet,

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Speaker 1: so if you have the desktop app, it's not I

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Speaker 1: don't see it there just yet. But if you go

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Speaker 1: to chat chat GBT dot com and you just do

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Speaker 1: the at symbol, you'll see Booking dot Com comes up,

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Speaker 1: Canva comes up, Corsera, Expedia, Figma, Spotify, Zilo, and a

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Speaker 1: couple other things, so you can just interact with those

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Speaker 1: things by talking. I think this is really the next level,

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Speaker 1: and it really puts chat GBT in a very powerful

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Speaker 1: position of Imagine when we get to the point where

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Speaker 1: we're using these little devices to interact with AI, like

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Speaker 1: a little tiny like you know, iPod shuffle type looking device,

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Speaker 1: you'll be able to do all this stuff. Hey, can

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Speaker 1: you check my target to see if that video game

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Speaker 1: I want is in stock? It'll go, it'll look at it,

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Speaker 1: it'll pull it, it'll figure it out, and it will

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Speaker 1: come back to you with the answer, Hey, can you

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Speaker 1: order this for me from door Dash? It'll just do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really really wild stuff. So check it out

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Speaker 1: if you haven't. The Canva one I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: trying out. The ones that are interesting to me is

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Speaker 1: zillow booking dot Com because you can ask for hotels. Hey,

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Speaker 1: find me a lodge style hotel in the middle of

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Speaker 1: Wyoming that's got a nine rating for customer reviews and

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Speaker 1: a four star rating for stars. I mean, that's stuff

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Speaker 1: that you can do already, but to be able to

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Speaker 1: just ask in natural language is pretty cool. Now we'll

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Speaker 1: see if it actually works as well as I want

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Speaker 1: it to. But I think that this is great also

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Speaker 1: for accessibility, you know, like that anyone can use this

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Speaker 1: if they can speak or they can type that you know,

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Speaker 1: you get lots of options for this stuff. Now, pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty cool? All right, let's see here. Tony is an

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Speaker 1: Orange County just has a quick comment. It sounds about

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Speaker 1: the scam stuff. Tony, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey, good only rich? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well? What you got? Almost got scammed?

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Speaker 4: I did, And it has to do with what the

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Speaker 4: gentlemen said. Although all the advice was great, when you're

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Speaker 4: looking up. In my case, it was a brokerage account.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't find a call in phone number. Yes, kind

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Speaker 4: of a complex question, m hm. So I looked up

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Speaker 4: the website and I found one that appeared to be

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Speaker 4: who I was looking for. I called the number and

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Speaker 4: at first the accent kind of gave me a bit

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Speaker 4: of a hesitation, But then the questions came, you know,

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Speaker 4: what's the uh, what's your name? What's the email associated

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Speaker 4: to this account? And it started going down and they

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Speaker 4: put me on hold, and I'm thinking, wait a minute,

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Speaker 4: after what I've already given them, they shouldn't really know

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Speaker 4: who I am, just from my phone number, because my

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Speaker 4: phone numbers associated with my account and so I disconnected.

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Speaker 4: So I just want everybody to be careful, even if

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Speaker 4: you do look up a secondary source to reach somebody,

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Speaker 4: to really make sure. Because what happened after I hung up,

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Speaker 4: they called me back and were texting me, called me back, and.

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Speaker 2: That was That's that's the giveaway.

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Speaker 4: It was not who I was, because as soon as

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Speaker 4: they heard the amount of money I was trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out how to move. He probably would have got

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Speaker 4: promoted that day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. He perked up.

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Speaker 1: He's like, hold on, we got a good I always

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Speaker 1: think of it as like they're in like a boiler

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Speaker 1: room kind of situation where there's a bunch of people

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Speaker 1: in like a room with all these computers, like we

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Speaker 1: got we got a good one. We got a good one.

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Speaker 1: But Tony, I'm glad you didn't fall for that. But

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Speaker 1: your spidey sense was was right. This happens a lot

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Speaker 1: when people look up they will dial or they'll go

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Speaker 1: on Google and they will just type in the name

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Speaker 1: of a company like Delta phone number, right Spectrum phone number,

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Speaker 1: or AT and T phone number, and these people actually

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: buy sponsored results up at the top that display a

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Speaker 1: phone number, and I'm looking right now to see if

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Speaker 1: there's any you know, they maybe Google has gotten a

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: little hip to this. But you really have to be

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01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: careful because so many people got dinged on this over

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01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: the past couple of years because their Spidey sense did

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Speaker 1: not go up. And if you think about it, Tony,

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Speaker 1: like you said, immediately, they're asking you for information to

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Speaker 1: confirm your account, stuff that they should have. But again,

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Speaker 1: our accounts are real accounts. Do this like when you

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Speaker 1: call your bank Sometimes I'm like, you have this information?

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: Why are you asking me for all this stuff? But

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01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: it's like because they're trying to make sure you know

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Speaker 1: you are who you say you are. But now I'm

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Speaker 1: giving you my account number, I'm giving you my data birth,

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01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm giving you the last four of my social and

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Speaker 1: all that information. If you just start spouting that out

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01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: to some scam artists, they're going to run with that.

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Speaker 2: So good advice, do not Google.

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Speaker 1: You can Google for phone numbers, but do not take

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Speaker 1: the number off the Google search results. Go into the

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01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: actual website of the company you're trying it. So for Spectrum, Okay,

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01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: so I typed in Spectrum. Go to Spectrum's website and

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Speaker 1: then make sure you're at the official website.

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Speaker 9: Go down.

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01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: Usually it's at the bottom of the page and it'll

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Speaker 1: say customer support call that number eight eight eight rich

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Speaker 1: one on one eight eight eight seven four to two

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Speaker 1: four one zero one. Coming up, we'll talk Google Pixel

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Speaker 1: Fold reviews.

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Speaker 2: Coming up right here in rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at Triple eight rich one

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Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one. The website for the show richon Tech

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Speaker 1: dot TV can go there, get the show notes, uh

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01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: and follow me on social media. I am on Instagram

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: at rich on Tech. You can find me there. You

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01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: will find me posting, not two you often I do post,

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: but only when it's something that's uh, you know, interesting

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: or useful or helpful. So yeah, it's all there. Let's

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01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: see who has been holding the longest. Let's go to

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01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to Don in provo.

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01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: Let's see what line is that that's.

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01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 12: Don You're on with rich that you're amazing, You're handsome.

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, I mean I'm on the radio. You

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:29,839
Speaker 2: can tell.

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,839
Speaker 12: I called you a long time ago about Zelta dot com,

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01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 12: d E L d t A dot com and you,

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 12: and then the last couple weeks ago you said you

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01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 12: like original ideas, right.

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01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 2: I love original ideas.

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01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 12: That sparked me. I have like four thousand pages of text,

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 12: you know, okay, prolific, prolific in problem and yeah, every

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01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 12: day there's a new something, new original idea pretty much

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01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 12: every single day, maybe even more.

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01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: What's what can I help you with?

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01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 12: Oh, I'm just gonna ask a question. I'm trying to

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01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 12: find the best free AI for my one and a

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 12: half hours of video musical that I was in Once

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 12: Fun of Mattress, to clean up the scenery, to set

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01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 12: the costumes, the music, the scene etcenta from the musical

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Speaker 12: Once Fund of Mattress nineteen eighty five. With an old

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01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 12: has an old video camera videotape file is the file

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01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 12: is vo b.

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: Oh vo b. That's a. That's a. That's a tricky one.

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01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: Well, so you're trying, okay, you want to you want

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: to run this through and get this cleaned up. So

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01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I am sure there are ways of

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: doing this. At this point, I don't think there is

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: a popular way to do it, nor do. I think

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: there's a consumer version of this. So we are just

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01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: at the point right now where where AI is doing

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff with photos. Obviously Google's Nano Banana

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: and Gemini is like probably the best at that. So

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01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: I think we're getting there. But I think when it

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01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: comes to just taking this VOB file, which by the way,

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: are very tricky. Those are typically from DVDs, so you'd

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: have to convert that into a file that's you know,

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01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: a regular you know, and like an MP four or something.

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: You could do that with.

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01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: What's that program, handbreak, So you can take handbreak. That's

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01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: an easy conversion program, open source, put it in there,

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Speaker 1: get it into a better format. But I don't think

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: at this point, as far as I know, there's not

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01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: a website I can just recommend and say, oh yeah,

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: take this video and throw it in there and it

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01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: will clean up everything on that video. Like, there's just

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Speaker 1: not a place that I know that will do that.

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01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 1: Photos no problem. We can restore photos very easily on Gemini.

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01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: If you take an old picture and you pop it

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: into Gemini and say restore this photo, it will do it.

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01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: It's just incredible the results. So I think we're getting

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01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: there don with the other stuff, but I don't think

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: we're there just yet. Yes, it is someone listening and

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: they're saying, Rich, there's a will do this, like there

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01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: probably is. I don't think there's a consumer version right

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01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: now that's that's very good at doing an entire video

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Speaker 1: and ai ing it. I mean, if you look at

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01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz, they did that at the sphere. It

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01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: cost him one hundred million bucks to do that. So

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Speaker 1: it's not like you can just take that video and

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Speaker 1: just throw it into some program some website that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna find and it's gonna do it for free and

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Speaker 1: clean up every frame.

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Speaker 2: It's just not possible right now.

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Speaker 1: So I would I would think in the next I

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Speaker 1: would say a couple of years, and I'd say a

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Speaker 1: couple of years probably gonna be quicker than that. But

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to see some of these apps

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Speaker 1: that can probably do that. Thanks for the call, don

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01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Richard in Costa Mesa.

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Speaker 8: You're on with rich Back in the day, I upgraded

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01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 8: my Windows seven laptop to Windows ten. Have been putting

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Speaker 8: all the updates all the way up till today. My

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Speaker 8: question is is there an advantage to downloading and installing

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01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 8: a current Windows ten file to my laptop. Verse over

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01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 8: you know what I have right now, which is an

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Speaker 8: old Window ten file.

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01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what's happening.

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01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: So basically, if you use the one that's already on

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: your computer, it's probably like are you talking, it's like

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Speaker 1: stored on your computer like a partition or something. Yeah,

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: Like it's just already there versus downloading it. So basically,

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01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: the version that's on your computer is as old as

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01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: that computer. So it's it's you're talking, it's, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know how old is this computer?

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Speaker 8: But I heard that it's eight years ago that Windows

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 8: ten was available to upgrade from Windows seven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's you're talking eight years old.

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01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: The bottom line is that, yes, you can install it

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01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: from there, you're going to be spending the next you know,

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01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: a couple hours doing the updates on that program. So

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01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: either way, we'll get you to the same ending place,

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01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: which is you know, you'll have you'll finally be updated

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Speaker 1: after a while.

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Speaker 2: If you no advantage, I don't think there's an advantage.

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01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: I think it's easier because you don't have to you

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01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about downloading it, and how are

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01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: you downloading it and installing it?

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01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: Like you know how to do that?

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01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you go to the Microsoft website, download the

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Speaker 8: i ISO file to your laptop, and then install it

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Speaker 8: from there.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: Usually it's not that easy.

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01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: Usually you need to put that uh that file onto

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01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: like a flash drive and then make it bootable.

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01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 2: There's a player. Yeah, yeah, Okay, it sounds like you

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01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: know what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: So I would just do that personally, because that way

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01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 1: you're getting a fresh, nice, clean install and you're getting

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01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: something that is uh, you know, up to date, so

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01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna have you still have to probably do some

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: updates on it, but I think it's going to be

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: less than you'd have to do if you were to

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01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: install this from your uh whatever's residing on your laptop.

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01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: But Richard, it sounds like you know your way around.

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01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: If you if you're talking rufus and i ISO files,

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01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing. I would say do it

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01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: that way, and I think that's a much cleaner method

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01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: than using the old program, which is fine, but it's

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01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, dated, and you have

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01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: to update it immediately. It's gonna take a while to

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01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: do that. So thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Eighty

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01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: to eight Rich one on one. The reviews are in

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01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 1: for Google's Pixel ten Pro fold. I did not test

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01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: this phone. I saw, I went hands on with it,

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01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: but I did not test it. So I will rely

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01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: on the folks that did from all these other websites

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01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: that I rounded up some of their reviews. But you know,

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01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I didn't really want to review it

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01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: because it's not something that people are really demanding. They're

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01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: just not like a lot of people are not asking

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01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: me about foldables. This thing is eighteen hundred dollars. And

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01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: also I think that the you know, and I'll tell

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01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: you what the end result is of all this, but

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01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: let me just go through the reviews here. So here's

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Speaker 1: the improvements. You've got a new hinge, you've got new

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01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: dust and water resistance. You've got G two built in

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01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: on it, which is nice, the magnetic charging. It's got

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01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: a bigger battery, so there are some improvements. The reviewers

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01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: say that it is the most durable foldable yet from Google,

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01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: so that's nice. The Verge buried it in sand and

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01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: it did survive. Google did not make this thing any slimmer,

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01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: it's still heavy, bulky, And when you compare it to

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01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: something like Samsung's Galaxy Z Fold seven, which is just

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01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: a marvel of engineering, it's like, hold on, there's two,

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01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: Like what's at Google? You just took two phones and

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01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: you literally slapped them together, whereas Samsung went back to

1682
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: the drawing board and engineered that Fold seven to be

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01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: such an amazing device and super thin you won't even

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01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: believe it. The cameras are not necessarily pro level.

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01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: They're good.

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01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: It's a pixel camera, so it's going to be good.

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01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: But the reviewers say it's the same sensors as the

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 1: base Pixel ten, not the higher end Pixel ten Pro series.

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01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: Gizmoto even called them regressed compared to last year. Battery

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01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: life and build quality was good, but some of the

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01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: AI features I disagree with that. Some of the AI

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: folks as folks said that the AI features like magic

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01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 1: q are gimmicky.

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01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true.

1695
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: Magic Q is this thing where let's say someone texts

1696
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: you and says, he, what's that restaurant reading out on

1697
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: Friday night? Google using AI will look through all of

1698
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: your emails and your texts and your whatever stored on

1699
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: your phone and it will figure out that information and

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01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: present it to you, and then in one click, you

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01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: can just send it to your friend. So I think

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01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: that's great. I've liked that on the Pixel ten series.

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01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 1: But the ad me feature, which is the ability to

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01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: take a picture and then add yourself to that picture,

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01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: is very gimmicky.

1706
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 2: And it's actually very tough to use.

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01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't even understand why that's still on these phones,

1708
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 1: because it's just I don't think anyone's using that.

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01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,799
Speaker 2: Zd net says.

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01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 1: The Pixel is better for dusty environments, but Samsung wins

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01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: on basically every other thing performance than this multitasking.

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01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 2: So the verdict across the board.

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01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: It's great for durability and battery life, but the z

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01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: Fold seven is still the foldable to beat. And I

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01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: could have told you that without reviewing this phone, because

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01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: I played with it a bit at the Google event,

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01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: and while it's nice, it's not really an upgrade in

1718
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: a big way from the last Fold from Google. And

1719
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: this is the third generation. They didn't really change too much.

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, they made the dust resistance, they've added

1721
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: the Chi charging, the wireless charging, and the battery, but

1722
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: in the hinge is better, but it's really the z

1723
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: fold seven. They just improved every aspect of that device.

1724
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: But my biggest downside is that it does not have

1725
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,719
Speaker 1: the magnetic ring on the back, which is really annoying

1726
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: in this day and age because you're paying so much

1727
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: for that phone. To not get that feature as kind

1728
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: of a bummer. So anyway, Pixel foll ten, you know,

1729
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: probably want to skip. I think unless you love the

1730
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 1: pixel lineup and you love a foldable, it's probably not

1731
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: the best foldable out there. But I do love the

1732
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: Pixel ten. I will tell you that I do love

1733
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: that phone. I think there's still some issues with it.

1734
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: There's still it's not as the performance is not as

1735
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: great as the iPhone, and the software is incredible. It's

1736
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: really a smartphone, but it's still just like not as polished.

1737
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy to me that like this phone is

1738
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: still just not as polished as the iPhone, even though

1739
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: I think the software on the Pixel is better. But

1740
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 1: you can do more on the on the iPhone because

1741
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: so many more developers have tapped into what Apple is built.

1742
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 1: And that's really to me, the defining the differentiating factor

1743
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: between these two devices is that on the Google Phone,

1744
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: it does a lot of things. It's super smart, it's

1745
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: got all the googlely stuff, but that's sort of where

1746
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: it ends, Whereas on the iPhone it's like, okay, so

1747
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: Apple doesn't have everything you need necessarily built in, but

1748
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: there's anything you can think of that you want to do,

1749
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: a developer has thought of it and has worked it

1750
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: into Apple's ecosystem.

1751
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: So still both great phones.

1752
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: This year, no matter what you go with, whether it's

1753
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: the standard Pixel ten series or the iPhone seventeen series,

1754
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: really really the best phones there. Eighty eight rich one

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01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: one zero one. Coming up this hour, we are going

1757
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: to talk.

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01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 2: E sports and let's see what else do I have?

1759
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: Oh, I promise we'll talk about the Tesla cheaper model.

1760
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: Tesla's coming up as well. This is rich on Tech.

1761
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

1762
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Eighty to eight rich one

1763
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four to two one

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01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 1: zero one. Let's go to Steven, Orange County.

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01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: Steve, you're on.

1766
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 3: With Rich.

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01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 13: Oh hright, Rich, thanks for taking my call.

1768
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, what's up?

1769
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 13: I have a two part question here, my I have

1770
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 13: a Windows uh laptop and it automatically installed co Pilot

1771
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 13: onto it. You don't want that, yeah, And my understanding

1772
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 13: is that it's uh stream shots periodically like quite often.

1773
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 13: Whatever you're yes, that's that's a feature called recall. Recall. Yeah, no,

1774
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 13: you don't want so I was running first of all,

1775
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 13: why they just put it on there without my knowledge?

1776
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 13: And then second law, how I get rid of it? Okay,

1777
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,959
Speaker 13: so with relling on everything, I am yeah, yeah, exactly,

1778
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 13: an email and everything, and I like.

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01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:16,919
Speaker 2: Well, so recall.

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01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: When it first came out was it was promoted heavily

1781
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 1: by by Microsoft, and they thought it was going to

1782
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 1: be great because what it does is it takes a

1783
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: screenshot of your system every couple of seconds to remember

1784
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: everything that you've done on your computer. Now, doesn't take

1785
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: a genius to figure out why that may not be

1786
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: the best idea in the world for a lot of reasons, right,

1787
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: even if you're not necessarily doing anything bad on your computer. Right,

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01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: Let's just say you're checking your email. Well, think about

1789
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 1: the emails you check, Hey Rich confirming this is your

1790
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: social Hey Rich, here's your bank account number, Hey Rich,

1791
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: here's this. Now that's all fine. What if now all

1792
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: that data stored on my computer, all those screenshots with

1793
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: all that private information. What happens if a hacker gets

1794
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 1: access to that repository of all that stuff, you know,

1795
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: now they can go through it and see everything.

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01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: That's just one scenario.

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01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: Other scenarios what if someone gets access to your computer

1798
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: and they search They just go and search through your

1799
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: recall and find all kinds of stuff that you were

1800
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: looking at and find the you know, either private information,

1801
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: embarrassing information, whatever.

1802
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: So that's number two.

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01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: So as soon as Microsoft launched this, there was no fanfare.

1804
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: It was like it was like a screech of a record.

1805
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: It was like, this is not a good thing, and

1806
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: so they went back to the drawing board. They ended

1807
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: up delaying the installation of Recall. They went back to

1808
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: the drawing board, figured out some more privacy situations, figured

1809
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: out some more privacy protections, and now it's back, and

1810
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: now it is I just checked it is. You're right

1811
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: it is pre installed because I just found it on

1812
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: my machine and I'm assuming when you first set it up,

1813
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 1: they ask you if you want it or not. But

1814
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: you can turn this feature off. So if you go

1815
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: into your settings on Windows Privacy and Security it's under

1816
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 1: recall and snapshots, and the main feature you want to

1817
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: look for is take snapshots that has turned on. I

1818
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: honestly did not even realize this was turned on on

1819
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: my computer. So I'm actually now I'm not going to

1820
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: turn it off because I want to go through some

1821
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,759
Speaker 1: of these screenshots. I just want to see what's in here.

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01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 1: That's pretty wild. So okay, I've got one hundred and

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01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: fifty gigs dedicated to my screen shots and ninety days

1824
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: worth of stuff that is this is wild to me.

1825
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: So you can go through and you can turn off

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01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: safe snapshots, and you can delete snapshots. You can delete

1827
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: all the snapshots, so you can delete all, or you

1828
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: can delete from They give you some nice options past hour,

1829
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: past twenty four hours, past seven days, past thirty days,

1830
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: so if you just need to delete some. And then

1831
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: they've got filter sensitive information snapshots were potentially sensitive infos,

1832
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: detected words, credit cards and more will not be saved.

1833
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: You can filter apps, you can filter websites, and so

1834
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: they have thought about a lot of these things, but

1835
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: the reality is for the average person, I you know,

1836
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: the idea is that you were surfing a website, you

1837
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: were looking at genes, or whatever, and you can't remember

1838
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 1: what that website was, and so you type in genes,

1839
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: or you type in a color, or you type in

1840
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: whatever description and it would be able to find that

1841
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: it's cool in theory, and I actually think it's kind

1842
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: of fun, but I get it. There's a lot of

1843
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: privacy aspects of this. So that's how you turn it

1844
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: off again. Go into your settings Privacy and Security and

1845
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: it's under save snapshots. You can turn that off. Why

1846
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: did they install it on your computer? You know, a

1847
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: tech company just like to do that. There is another

1848
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 1: app if you are this is for my advanced listeners.

1849
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: If you are advanced advanced advanced okay, there's an app

1850
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: called win Arrow Tweaker WI n A E r O.

1851
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 1: And this is an app that if you really want

1852
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 1: to decide how your computer works, you can do this

1853
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: with this app. So it is let's see, is it freeware?

1854
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: Looks like it's yeah, free app. So you can just

1855
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 1: tweak all the hidden secret settings that Microsoft doesn't necessarily

1856
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 1: let you adjust easily. So if you want to disable things,

1857
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: you want to disable copilot completely, you want to you know,

1858
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, this will let you do it.

1859
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: It really has like, I mean, every feature you can imagine.

1860
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of like you're in control of your system again.

1861
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: So but again you have to be an advanced user

1862
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: for this. But I mean you could do so many things.

1863
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: Look at this.

1864
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's just if you look at the list

1865
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: of things that this lets you do, it's just a

1866
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: laundry list. I'll link this up on my website rich

1867
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: on Tech dot tv. Again the name of the app

1868
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 1: is win Arrow Tweaker, and also put the instructions on

1869
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 1: how to disable recall if you so choose. A great question, Steve.

1870
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're going to talk e sports right

1871
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

1872
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology. So

1873
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: many things to talk about. I never get to everything

1874
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: I want to talk about in the show, ever, it

1875
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: never happens. I literally have a laundry list of things

1876
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: I want to get to and I just can't get

1877
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: to the mall. So maybe I need to plan less

1878
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: for the show, Like I just maybe I need to

1879
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: come in unprepared one day. But I don't think the

1880
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: show would be as good if I did that. But

1881
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: that's all debatable. So let's bring on Steve Arnssett. He

1882
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: is the co CEO of Team Liquid, this and esports organization,

1883
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: and we met at this UCLA. They opened up this

1884
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: gaming lounge at UCLA. That's where we met, and I

1885
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,879
Speaker 1: just was fascinated by this world of like e sports

1886
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: and e athletes and they call them e athletes.

1887
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: Maybe Steve, welcome to the show.

1888
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 3: It's great to be here, Rich.

1889
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: So what is Team Liquid? Explain what that's all about.

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01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 14: So, Team Liquid we're an eesport team, just like any

1891
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 14: other kind of sports team, think forty nine Ers or

1892
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 14: Golden State Warriors, but instead of throwing around a football

1893
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 14: or dribbling a basketball, we're playing video games. So we

1894
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 14: have a bunch of gamers that compete underneath the team

1895
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:20,520
Speaker 14: Team Liquid, and they play in games like League of Legends, Valorant, StarCraft,

1896
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 14: and then tons of people watch them compete and play

1897
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:24,799
Speaker 14: against other gamers.

1898
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 3: And that's esports. Wow.

1899
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 1: Interesting, And how many like your Team Liquid? How many

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01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: other organizations are there out there in the world? And

1901
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 1: are they part of like a league like are you

1902
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 1: part of like one conference like versus another?

1903
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, so there's probably about three hundred esports teams globally

1904
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 14: around the world, and each team competes in a number

1905
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 14: of different titles or games. So instead of us just

1906
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 14: playing football or just playing soccer, we're actually competing in

1907
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 14: a lot of different types of games, and we're each

1908
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 14: of those games has their own respective league, like the

1909
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 14: NFL or NBA, and then our business is run by

1910
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 14: our commercialization within each of those respective leagues, and that's

1911
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 14: why we have one hundred and sixty or so players

1912
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 14: that compete underneath Team Liquid all around the world.

1913
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Now you compare yourself to sort of like these big

1914
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: teams out there, you've got athletes. What makes e sports

1915
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: similar or different from like, you know, the NFL or

1916
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 1: the NBA, yep.

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01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 14: I mean, one thing that is similar is that we

1918
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 14: are all about the fans.

1919
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 3: We have a global fan base.

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01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 14: This is something that is a little bit different than

1921
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 14: other traditional sports is that there are a lot of

1922
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 14: gamers out there and they're all around the world, and

1923
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 14: so that is pretty much the same.

1924
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 3: Some things that are different is.

1925
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 14: That we are more digitally native, which means that our

1926
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 14: demographics skew younger. Someone once told me, for every baseball

1927
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 14: fan that die is basically two esports fans are born.

1928
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 14: So there's a lot of gamers and there's only more

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Speaker 14: gamers going into the future. As you know, computers and

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Speaker 14: tablets and stuff are more ubiquitous with day to day

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Speaker 14: kind of activities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to talk about that in a moment,

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Speaker 1: But first, I mean this whole esports industry, Like I remember,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would get pitched on it pretty hard

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Speaker 1: to like cover these stories and these tournaments and all

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Speaker 1: this stuff, and it was like it was big, and

1937
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Speaker 1: I still think it's big, but it's definitely gone through

1938
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Speaker 1: some changes. So was there a bubble that burst or

1939
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Speaker 1: something like? What happened?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 1: Why do people some people have the perception that esports

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Speaker 1: isn't as big as it might have been five years

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Speaker 1: ago or something.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 14: So esports, just to put it in context, is the

1947
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Speaker 14: third most watched sport in the world after cricket and soccer,

1948
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Speaker 14: so a lot of people watch it.

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Speaker 3: So what happened in two Yeah, it's just wild, it's

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Speaker 3: mind blowing.

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Speaker 14: But in two thousand and four team there was pretty

1952
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Speaker 14: much like this gold rush into esports, and that was

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Speaker 14: when a lot of professional sports team owners and investors

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01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 14: all came in and put money into teams and agencies

1955
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Speaker 14: and players and developers and the whole ecosystem, just like

1956
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Speaker 14: what would happen in like the crypto bubble or what

1957
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Speaker 14: may happen in the AI bubble, Right, a lot of

1958
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 14: capital gets deployed, and those expectations were set pretty high,

1959
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Speaker 14: and if you're familiar with the Gartner hype cycle, inflated

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Speaker 14: expectations not able to deliver in the timeframe that was

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Speaker 14: needed by a lot of these investors, and the bubble burst,

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Speaker 14: And so that happened about two years ago, and I

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Speaker 14: think that caused a little bit of this kind of.

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Speaker 3: What's happening in esports? Is it real?

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Speaker 14: But the thing is is that there's still more people

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Speaker 14: watching esports events every year prior.

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Speaker 3: So we just beat last year's records.

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Speaker 14: And that just shows that the demographics are still on

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Speaker 14: our side. That you know, they're just the aging of

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Speaker 14: the population, more people on the internet, more people gaming.

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Speaker 14: And so what has happened over the last two years

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Speaker 14: is it just a lot of consolidation. There's been a

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Speaker 14: number of teams that have went bankrupt or ceased to exist,

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Speaker 14: you know, either their investors didn't have the right horizon

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Speaker 14: on the investment or poor management. But then there's the

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Speaker 14: haves and the have nots, And so a lot of

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Speaker 14: the organizations that are the top of the field, are

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Speaker 14: in pole position, have used this time to consolidate and

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Speaker 14: buy other esports.

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Speaker 3: Teams and basically become bigger.

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Speaker 14: And so you saw that three hundred number that I'm

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Speaker 14: talking I spoke about that's been consolidated down to probably

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Speaker 14: one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we're talking about all these esports and like,

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Speaker 1: it's great if these these athletes are you know, they're

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Speaker 1: they're good at these games. What games are they playing?

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Speaker 1: By the like, what's the most popular esports games?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, the two most played esports games. Number one, League

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Speaker 14: of Legends. It's made by Riot Games. They actually have

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Speaker 14: their headquarters in Santa Monica in Los Angeles, California. And

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Speaker 14: the second, which surprises a lot of people, is Mobile

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Speaker 14: Legends Bang Bang, which is a mobile game that's predominantly

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Speaker 14: played out of the Philippines and Indonesia.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So now parents listening, parents sitting there going hold on,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're talking about all these things that these

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Speaker 1: kids can do, and I assume these you know, these

1999
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Speaker 1: esports personalities make a decent living doing this as well,

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Speaker 1: because at the top of their game. But like, parents

2001
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: are already struggling with screen time, right, They're sitting there,

2002
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Speaker 1: they're trying to get their kids off Roadblocks or off

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Speaker 1: Fortnite or off Minecraft, and so it's like they're like,

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Speaker 1: hold on, if every parent got their kid off these screens,

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01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: no would ever make it to this level. So what

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Speaker 1: how do you kind of ride that line? Like, how

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01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: do you know when like your kid is healthy doing

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Speaker 1: stuff on you know, esports or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, here's my take.

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Speaker 14: You know, I think gaming is one of the best

2011
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 14: vessels for education and retaining information. Like, for example, you know,

2012
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Speaker 14: my geography is actually really good, and I in part

2013
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 14: say because I played a lot of where in the

2014
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 14: world is Carmen.

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Speaker 3: San Diego by US history?

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Speaker 2: You know that's putting it way back Steve, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Put the way back right. And the same thing with

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Speaker 3: like Orgo Trail.

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Speaker 14: There's a lot of parents that probably played that in

2020
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 14: their computer labs at school, right, And that's how you

2021
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 14: learn a lot about US history. There's something about gaming

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Speaker 14: that just makes it where you can retain the information

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Speaker 14: and learn the information really well. Here's the other side

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Speaker 14: is that it's highly addictive. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 14: different types of games out there, and most of them

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Speaker 14: are not good and they aren't providing the kind of

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Speaker 14: development and skill that is possible. So, for example, in

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Speaker 14: a lot of these games that are like strategy games,

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Speaker 14: you're thinking about critical placement. In team based games, you're

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Speaker 14: communicating with other gamers, usually with a headphone, so you're

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Speaker 14: learning communication, resolving, conflict, leadership ability, and team based games.

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Speaker 14: And in a lot of these games, you're also piecing

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Speaker 14: things together and they're very complex. And so it's just

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Speaker 14: about finding the right kinds of games, which is really hard,

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Speaker 14: and it's making sure that you do it in moderation.

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Speaker 14: And I think those two kind of key factors come

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Speaker 14: into play.

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Speaker 3: And the last thing that.

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Speaker 14: I'd say is that like, if you've got a kid,

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Speaker 14: Let's say your kid was really interested in you know,

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Speaker 14: football or baseball, you probably go in the backyard, grab

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Speaker 14: a glove, throw the ball around. Right, Why aren't you

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Speaker 14: doing that with your kid If they're playing Fortnite, like

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Speaker 14: grab a controller, sit down with them and be interested

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Speaker 14: and curious like how do I play this?

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Speaker 3: And I know you're thinking, oh my god, I won't

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01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 3: know what I'm doing and I'm gonna mess it up.

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Speaker 3: That's okay.

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Speaker 14: That's actually better because your kid is going to teach

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Speaker 14: you this game and there's a whole learning and bonding

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Speaker 14: process that happens with that.

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Speaker 3: So I always encourage parents to just sit down and play.

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Speaker 1: What is it realistic for your kid to become an esports?

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Speaker 2: Do you call them? You said athletes?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 3: Call?

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01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So do you Is it realistic for a kid to

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Speaker 1: become that? Is that becoming like a pro athlete, you

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Speaker 1: know in the NBA or whatever, like is it that

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Speaker 1: or is it more realistic? And also there are other

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Speaker 1: kind of like opportunities in this world. If your kid

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Speaker 1: is into video games, right.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I think the probability of an average kid

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Speaker 14: making it to a pro team is miniscule.

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Speaker 3: It's very very small. There's just a lot of gamers

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Speaker 3: out there and think it's it's the same thing in

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Speaker 3: like football or baseball. Right, You do these.

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Speaker 14: Things because you're learning what it's like to be in

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Speaker 14: a team sport, you are being coached, you are taking

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Speaker 14: those skills, but you don't really have the goal of

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Speaker 14: going pro. Now, maybe if your kid is playing a

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Speaker 14: particular game and reaches like the top twenty of the

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Speaker 14: respective in game leader board of that respective game.

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Speaker 3: Your kid may actually.

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Speaker 14: Be a pro gamer, but for most they're not going

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Speaker 14: to make it that far, which means that you just

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Speaker 14: use this like any other kind of tramural sport that

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Speaker 14: you can learn life skills and collaborating with other players.

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Speaker 14: And so what we're finding more and more, just like

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Speaker 14: you mentioned at the UCLA campus, is at universities, colleges,

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Speaker 14: high schools, even elementary schools are now investing into like

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Speaker 14: building out these labs, these gaming centers where kids can

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Speaker 14: learn play the right games, develop those skills. And I

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Speaker 14: mean I compare that to when I was a kid,

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Speaker 14: Like we didn't have access to those things. So I

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Speaker 14: think it's just so cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really, I mean it's it's a different world

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01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: for sure. I Mean, I you know, I played video games.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, you know my age

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01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,719
Speaker 1: have played video games. But this this is like next

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01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: level stuff. Like when I've seen some of these pro gamers,

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01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: especially like the way that they're doing things, I'm just like,

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01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: how how are you doing that so fast? So what's

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01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: next for you guys? What's next for Team liquod We

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Speaker 1: got about a minute left.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, Team Liquid. We are the largest esports

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Speaker 14: team in the world. Old We've won more prize money

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Speaker 14: than another team. We have the most championships of any team.

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Speaker 14: We feel the most teams and players. I want Team

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Speaker 14: Liquid to be a household name around the world and

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Speaker 14: it's our ball to drop or our misclick to happen.

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Speaker 14: So I want to continue expanding our brand into important

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Speaker 14: regions of the world where we don't have a base

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Speaker 14: yet and continue to just field the best players and

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Speaker 14: teams across the globe.

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Speaker 3: That's the goal for TL.

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Speaker 1: All right, Team Liquid, It's Team liquid dot com. Steve Arensett,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me rich, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Coming up, we are going to open up

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Speaker 1: the feedbag. It is overflowing this week. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: what you had to say in my email this week.

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Speaker 1: Coming up right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to rich On Tech. A couple of stories to get

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Speaker 1: through before we get to the feedbag. First off, Apple

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Speaker 1: Vision Pro users are getting something special this basketball season,

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Speaker 1: Lakers games in Apple Immersive. I guess Apple's working with

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Speaker 1: Spectrum to stream these live games to Spectrum Sportsnet customers,

2121
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: but so cool. Maybe I'm assuming you can get them

2122
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,839
Speaker 1: otherwise even if you're not a Spectrum customer. But anyway,

2123
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: the cool thing is this is something that Apple promoted

2124
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 1: back in the day when they came out the Vision Pro.

2125
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: They showed us like a little clip reel and it

2126
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna be sitting courtside at your favorite games,

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Speaker 1: and now that's going to be a reality.

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Speaker 2: It's really cool.

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01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 1: The problem is nobody has one of these Apple Vision

2130
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 1: pros to be able to use this to try it out.

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01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be able to try it out, but

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01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 1: I mean it never became like a big time thing.

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01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,920
Speaker 1: So maybe this is the killer application. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you can sit at home and watch a game like courtside,

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01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool, so watch for that. This season, Tesla

2136
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Speaker 1: launched Cheaper Model Y and cheap Cheaper Model threes, but

2137
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: they kind of cut out a lot of stuff. So

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01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: the pricing is under forty thousand for both of these,

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01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 1: and they've got pretty solid range, but a lot less

2140
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 1: of the features, so like no autopilot, no AMFM radio,

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Speaker 1: no leather seats. I don't think they had leather seats

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01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 1: to begin with, no rear screen, no panoramic roof. It's

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Speaker 1: just a lot of like they cut, like a lot

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01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 1: of the things that make a Tesla nice. You're not

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01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: getting those. But if you just want an electric car,

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01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 1: then these new cheaper models might fit the bill. And

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Speaker 1: this EV next year, reviving the Chevy Bolt because I

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Speaker 2: They canceled it back in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Now it's going to be under thirty two hundred and

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Speaker 1: use Tesla superchargers. It's got Google built in, but no CarPlay.

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Speaker 1: That's a bummer. I will tell you as I drive

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Speaker 1: they're just so great. And then the CrOx I'm wearing

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Speaker 1: Windows XP themed crocs. You got to go to my

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Speaker 1: and you want Microsoft, go ahead. All right, Now for

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Speaker 1: the feedback. Karen from California. My husband and I enjoy

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Speaker 1: Your podcast keeps me company on my commute. Sorry to

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Speaker 1: hear about your accident. Hope your recovery is doing well.

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Speaker 1: In a recent episode, you said you preferred Google Docs.

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Speaker 1: I yelled at my car radio. Microsoft Office even the

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Speaker 1: read aloud and translation and dictation that even autopunctuates. All right, Karen,

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Speaker 1: I'll give it another try, but I'm kind of in on

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Speaker 1: the Google stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I like it.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have options. Office dot Com sign in

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Speaker 1: pry them for my cold dead hands. I still use

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Speaker 1: one every day to record over the AIRTV Sean, I

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Speaker 1: now because it's been many, many years.

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Speaker 2: Twenty years. Probably.

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Speaker 1: I stayed home from work to wait for my first

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Speaker 2: I set it up.

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Speaker 1: It took forever because it was over phone lines back then,

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Speaker 1: and I'll never forget invited all my friends over for

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Speaker 1: of Survivor, I just paused the TV, paused live television.

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Speaker 1: Everyone went nut's like wait what? And I thought it

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Speaker 1: TVO for so many years. Kim writes in from Tennessee

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Speaker 1: she recently ran into a messaging mystery with her Samsung

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Speaker 1: S twenty five vulture. Using Google Messages, one of her

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Speaker 1: friends wasn't getting photos. She switched to MMS SMS and

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Speaker 1: then couldn't get RCS back for that contact. Well, it

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Speaker 1: turns out the issue was not her phone. After some

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Speaker 1: detective work, she discovered her friends was using Samsung messages,

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Speaker 1: which does not support RCS.

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Speaker 2: Ah good to figure that out.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, if your friend's not getting your RCS, you're

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Speaker 1: doing that stuff. Check to see if they're using Google messages.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, John, I should have listened to you, Rich.

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Speaker 1: I bought an iPad eleven for three nineteen. Just days

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Speaker 1: later it dropped a two seventy nine. I called Amazon.

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Speaker 1: They said the only way to get the lower price

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Speaker 1: was to return it and reorder. After hours sitting up

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Speaker 1: and charging it, and decided it was not worth the hassle.

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Speaker 1: Still cheaper than the Apple Store. But next time I'll

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Speaker 1: follow your advice and wait for those Prime Day deals

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Speaker 1: to kick in. Joey says, you made my week with

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Speaker 1: the shortcut to auto reply to texts. I've needed this

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Speaker 1: for two years. Thanks Rich. Credit goes to Steven Roblez.

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Speaker 1: He was my guest Beer dot FM. I set up

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of shortcuts after last week's show because

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Speaker 1: I was so excited about him. Let's see here, we've

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Speaker 1: got Victor in California. Hey, Rich, your newsletter has golden info.

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Speaker 1: I was looking through it for Windows ten fixed options,

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Speaker 1: and behold found the answer. I went to admin settings

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Speaker 1: check for updates A few minutes laters, a few minutes

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Speaker 1: later it appeared. Now I've got another year to save

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Speaker 1: up for a new computer. I'm a happy listener and subscriber,

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Speaker 1: Neil and Anaheim, Rich I love all your tech shows.

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Speaker 1: You're an amazing guy helping us navigate the challenging world

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Speaker 1: of home technology. I could say more, but that's really

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Speaker 1: seriously just grateful you're out there helping the masses, or

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Speaker 1: maybe the messes of people. Thanks rich Day in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: Love your work.

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Speaker 1: Thank you rich And Janine writes in thank you for

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Speaker 1: all your great info and another terrific show. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know how you keep up the energy. Well, thank you, Janine,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. All right, if you can believe it,

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Speaker 1: that's going to do it. For this episode of the show.

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Speaker 1: You can find links to everything I mentioned on my website.

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Speaker 1: Go to richontech dot tv. Find me on social media.

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Speaker 1: I am at rich on Tech. Next week we've got

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Speaker 1: a former FBI operative. He's going to tell you how

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Speaker 1: to stay safe from the biggest online threats. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. There are so many ways you

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Speaker 1: can spend your time. I really do appreciate you spending

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Speaker 1: it right here with me. One reminder before I go,

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Speaker 1: do not drive distracted. If you're texting driving, all that

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Speaker 1: stuff it can wait. Please for the safety of everyone,

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Speaker 1: including you. Thanks everyone who makes this show possible. Bobo

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Speaker 1: on the boards this week, Kim on the phones, me

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Speaker 1: on the mic.

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Speaker 2: My name is rich Demiro. I will talk to you

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Speaker 2: real soon.