00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm prettyer whine girl. I'm feeling loose, I'm feeling wild, I'm feeling out of control. 00:01:00 Speaker 2: What is happening. 00:01:01 Speaker 3: I've been playing a lot of a video game called Pocopia. This is a video game where you've got to kind of just take care of Pokemon. You've got to make sure the pokemon are comfortable. I've been for the last few days. I have been just making sure all of my Pokemon are comfortable. I've barely had a minute for myself. I had a confrontation with my neighbor's dog. If I hit, attacked and killed me, we probably wouldn't be recording today. So that's kind of my life, not getting attacked by a dog, taking care of my Pokemon. My retainer is being cleaned as we speak. It's at home in the glass with the tablet. So I've got one thing to look forward to and is do I have any business? Let's see. No, I don't think so. I mean, I am wondering if if anybody knows if the man who does my taxes, if he exists, he's out of touch. Bruce, reach out. The deadline's coming and I could use some assistance, I think. And Jim has left town. Jim is out of town. So you can see that my structure is just completely lost. I've I need some I need somebody with a strong hand in my life. Essentially, I think that that's all we have to talk about. Uh oh, somebody mentioned to me recently the gift or a curse card game. They're running out of that, so if you want one, go to exactly wright store dot com and then find your way online. I don't know. Let's get into the podcast. Today's guest is wonderful. It's Caitlin Riley. Caitlin, welcome to I said no gifts. 00:02:33 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. How are you? I'm so good just watching you work, beautiful and fascinating. What a what a profession. 00:02:42 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Our Dick Clark, I am, I'm essentially our Dick Clark. Yeah, you really are get to do the ball countdown. 00:02:50 Speaker 2: I mean, who cares? 00:02:52 Speaker 3: When's my rock and New Year's Eve? 00:02:53 Speaker 2: I don't know, but you need to get on there. 00:02:55 Speaker 3: I need a rock in New Year's Eve. 00:02:56 Speaker 2: You really do. 00:02:57 Speaker 3: You were telling me right before we started recording that you've had some alarm trouble. 00:03:02 Speaker 2: Yes, I have a house guest right now, and so I had to go back and fix the alarm. So I I was late. I was late. I was like, disrespectfully late. I was like twenty minutes late. 00:03:14 Speaker 3: It was, oh, twenty minutes, I don't think so fifteen. 00:03:17 Speaker 2: But I actually I parked four blocks away accidentally, and then I was walking around an apartment building and I was like, I didn't know I was going to Bridger's apartment. Is what is this? And then I realized that I was not at my destination, so I had to go back. It was really a series of unfortunate events. 00:03:34 Speaker 3: Did you move the car to our beautiful parking lot or you still no? 00:03:38 Speaker 2: I parked on the street because I couldn't find the parking lot. I was an absolute tizzy. 00:03:43 Speaker 3: This is what the alarm will do, though, I know. Did the house guests call and say I set off the alarm or did the alarm company call or the police? 00:03:51 Speaker 2: You get a notification and so there's like a ten second countdown and then they're like something's wrong. So then you have to go back and fix it. 00:04:00 Speaker 3: God, and what happens? Then then it alerts the police. 00:04:04 Speaker 2: I feel like it alerts. I think it's simply safe. 00:04:07 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, sure, I have simply saved this way. Are they a sponsor, we don't know what they are or if they're collecting our information. We don't know what they are as a company. 00:04:15 Speaker 2: I think everything's collecting our inform I think you're collecting my information. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: Or collecting your voice. We're going to do a spinoff of this podcast using the AI. 00:04:23 Speaker 2: With your voice, but it's going to be just like completely red pilled. It's just like my my voice but saying the most insane, horrible tin hat. 00:04:31 Speaker 3: Theories, awful things about women, awful. 00:04:34 Speaker 2: Things about women, awful things about anyone that should have rights or any kind of love or compassion of any kind. Yeah. 00:04:42 Speaker 3: I just watched the Uh there's a new documentary about the manosphere. Have you seen this? 00:04:46 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, I was waiting to watch it with my husband lol, But then I watched it myself because women's rights. 00:04:52 Speaker 3: Right. You should have waited for your god. 00:04:53 Speaker 2: I should have waited for my god, your God. But it is fascinating that guy does a really good documentary. 00:04:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting the way he's able to get into these people's world and basically like tell them they're idiots, and they keep him around anyway he's doing it. 00:05:08 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, he creates this like safe space for them to just let their freak flag fly in front of a camera. 00:05:18 Speaker 3: But he is saying things to them. But he tells one guy he needs to work on his calves. 00:05:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, well, you don't say that to a straight man. 00:05:24 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, and he doesn't. Yeah, So I wonder if there's like it's like, is this sort of like an uncle energy where you like bring them in and they're like able to ras you a little bit, but you keep them around. Like, how are they so open with this guy? 00:05:36 Speaker 2: Well? Is he is he British or Australian? I think he's British? Okay, so I feel like any person that's British kind of gets like a social free pass. Yeah, because all of a sudden, like for some reason, I trust you, right, I imagine you're really smarter than me. Yeah, you sound really smart, and I feel like you're just kind of here to observed and. 00:06:01 Speaker 3: Think that one influencer's mom showing up at the end was what's going on with her? Yeah, what's going on with any of these horrible fears? 00:06:10 Speaker 2: God, it's really really disturbing. It's really disturbing. 00:06:13 Speaker 3: I mean, I was obviously upset not to be invited on. Of course, as key member, you're very much. 00:06:18 Speaker 2: A part of the manosphere. 00:06:22 Speaker 3: I would say, a cornerstone you. 00:06:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're a founding father for sure of that of that ILK right. 00:06:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. It feels like just an entirely different universe, and like these people are unbelievably famous and I've never seen or heard of them. 00:06:38 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean my nephew is seventeen and I know, and so he's sort of like, I'm not a Republican, but I'm also not a Democrat, which is I think, Well, I don't are we talking politics. 00:06:52 Speaker 3: On your foot, We're talking seventeen year old politics. 00:06:55 Speaker 2: We're talking seventeen year old politics. Where he said that, and I was like, for a seventeen year old, I feel like that's a red flags. 00:07:00 Speaker 3: Huge as a teenager. 00:07:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, so, but so what are you? You know? And I think that he dabbles in this world a little bit. And there's this new wave of gen zers or I don't need is it Jen Alpha? 00:07:16 Speaker 3: Now? Where are Jen Alpha is really coming up with? I saw a headline that was like twenty five percent of jen Alpha thinks that the woman should stay at. 00:07:24 Speaker 2: Home or something. And so that's the thing. He wants to get married super young. He wants to have like six kids. What he wants his wife to be a stay at home mot Like, I'm a little worried. You're a little scared. I don't really know what's going on. 00:07:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, like in this inside a teenager's mind, thinking that in that way just doesn't It doesn't seem at all familiar to me. 00:07:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're I think we're going a little they're very the young the youngins are very conservative. 00:07:51 Speaker 3: But something that realized that's going to get in the way of their gaming. You got six kids, you're not going to be able to get on Twitch. 00:07:58 Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. They all to be twitch streamers, right. 00:08:01 Speaker 3: So I don't these things don't feel compatible to me. Yeah, I mean maybe that's the wife having to clean the house while you said on twitch. 00:08:08 Speaker 2: Right, well, because man can play game, wife can clean kitchen, right, you know, the natural order, the natural order of things. Instead of hunting, we're gaming there, so they're hunting. But in the game. 00:08:19 Speaker 3: You know, gamers don't come for me. I'm playing Pokemon. 00:08:23 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned that I am. I'm a gamer myself. 00:08:28 Speaker 3: We're all gamers. 00:08:29 Speaker 2: We're all gamers at heart. Come on, wait, so is this like a game on your phone or what. 00:08:35 Speaker 3: Is a game on my switch? 00:08:37 Speaker 2: It's called Pocopia. Okay, so I have a switch, but I never charge it and I and I forget about it will cause problems for you. 00:08:44 Speaker 3: It's kind of like I never played did you ever play Animal Crossing? 00:08:48 Speaker 2: I got really bored. 00:08:49 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm bored by that as well. People were wild about it. 00:08:53 Speaker 2: But people tell me COVID Yeah, I know, Elijah Wood was a big Animals player from what I remember. 00:08:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean almost everyone and I very alienated because I found it boring. 00:09:02 Speaker 2: It's boring. 00:09:03 Speaker 3: This is kind of like that, but it's not boring because you are concerned about everyone's comfort and if you care about if you're if you're an mpath like. 00:09:11 Speaker 2: Me, okay, you will be just like someone with trauma. 00:09:14 Speaker 3: With trauma, you'll be like, what what does Bulbasor need? 00:09:17 Speaker 2: Right now? What does Bulbasor need? Is there fighting? 00:09:20 Speaker 3: There's no fighting yet? 00:09:21 Speaker 2: Okay, I need fighting. 00:09:22 Speaker 3: Oh you need to pit them. You need the kind of dog fighting aspect of it. 00:09:25 Speaker 2: I need fighting, but it needs to be magical. Right. So, I about two years ago got really unhealthily obsessed with Hogwarts legacy. 00:09:37 Speaker 3: Oh sure, and this is do you like, are you Harry Potter in this or your another wizard? 00:09:42 Speaker 2: So your it's like one hundred and twenty five years before the story of Harry Potter started, right. So you're a student at Hogwarts, right, and they sort you in a house, right, and it's a full open world, right, and there are main quests, there are side quests, but you are a wizard. Uh huh. And it's really incredible. 00:10:04 Speaker 3: I imagine it kind of takes over your life. 00:10:06 Speaker 2: It does. I played. I think I logged one hundred and twenty seven hours in a month. Oh my god. 00:10:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the end game in this thing? 00:10:15 Speaker 2: You just you you finish it? So then After that, I moved on to what am I playing right now? Star Wars Outlaws or basically you're this female character named Kves but she's essentially Han solo and you go on a lot of crazy Well I realized that it has to be like open world adventure based and it has to be based off of a movie, like like my husband was like, you should play Skyrim, and I was like, no, that's stupid, But it's essentially the same thing. 00:10:50 Speaker 3: That's also like a wizard a thing. 00:10:52 Speaker 2: I think. I like wizards, right, I love Wizards. 00:10:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously there's the complication of jk Rowling at this point of. 00:10:59 Speaker 2: Course, so that that is the issue that I had found where sort of my soul is like, I feel like I shouldn't be doing this. 00:11:05 Speaker 3: We're all kind of trapped. We should, I mean, but we should always you know, just note jk Rowling each shit sort of situation die. But the wonderful world of wizarding it's very complicated. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: What wizard I mean, it's not the right I don't think she got a paycheck from this. 00:11:23 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, unfortunately, I think she makes a paycheck from probably like every book sale at this point. This woman is just pure evil and. 00:11:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's awful. 00:11:30 Speaker 3: I just kind of I actually feel like evil is cool. 00:11:33 Speaker 2: She's like a loser, loser, I mean imagine, like so like if she died tomorrow, the only thing that we'll be talking about is God, she fucking sucked. Like, imagine accomplishing the most incredible thing, like creating this magical world renowned series of Harry Potter and then failing so hard as a human being that if you died tomorrow, everyone's like, yeah, wow, that was the most loser person truly. Can you imagine? 00:12:01 Speaker 3: She spends all her day online? 00:12:03 Speaker 2: Yes, get a live honey, get a light. Well, she has more money than gods, I know, but. 00:12:07 Speaker 3: Like we got to do something. 00:12:09 Speaker 2: In Costa Rica and get offline. What is wrong? 00:12:12 Speaker 3: Find one hobby? 00:12:13 Speaker 2: Find start needle stitching? 00:12:16 Speaker 3: Is that what it's called needle stitching? That might be a needle needle point stitching, cross stitching, needle points. These are separate disciplines and their third one crochet. 00:12:30 Speaker 2: Crochet is really fun. 00:12:32 Speaker 3: Okay, see, look at us. We're thinking of ideas for this lady. 00:12:35 Speaker 2: We're trying to help her. 00:12:38 Speaker 3: It's also the sort of thing where it's like change your mind and suddenly you're the coolest person alive. 00:12:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:12:43 Speaker 3: People are like, wow, there's someone who who actually figured it out. Yeah, and said she's online, she's on Twitter. 00:12:49 Speaker 2: Twitter, Just lose it X. 00:12:51 Speaker 3: Actually, thank you, thank you for showing it respect deserves. 00:12:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, give it the respect it deserves. It's X. Now. I actually got bullied off of X because I made a joke, and the joke was Emma Stone could do the Joker, but Joaquin Phoenix could never do La La Land. 00:13:12 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Wow you were I mean, just throwing yourself out there to be devoured. 00:13:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the Joker had come out. And respectfully, I've never hated a movie more. It's so bad. I've never hated a movie more. And then the second one was like, oh wow, it's even worse. Caitlin, But I feel like I can't say those things otherwise I'm not going to get. 00:13:33 Speaker 3: I'm going to say something controversial. What I didn't mind Joker two. Okay, Look, I'm willing to defend myself. Is it because the water on my side, by. 00:13:43 Speaker 2: The way, Okay, and I do remember John Water's coming out validated my FEELIX Okay, and so I do remember that happening, and I remember thinking, h John Waters sees something here, so I think I think it was like a boomerang where the Joker too was so like what the fuck crazy, right, that it boomeranged back around and then it was like expert camp. 00:14:05 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean it was like I mean, in so many ways, it was like it made all of the people who liked the original Bad One mad, yes, which that alone is like this feels good. This feels good that those people are mad, and it was just weird and strangely. First one was just kind of a rip off of Taxi Driver. The second one was like what am I looking at? Right? It was really I mean, there was a courtroom sequence that was like seven hours long. Of course that was tough, but I went in with such low expectations that my friend and I looked at each other after and we were like, that wasn't that bad? And then John Waters comes along and says it was one of his favorite movies of the year, and I thought, Okay, maybe they did something here. 00:14:39 Speaker 2: You do have a very good point. I might have to give it a rewatch in the background while I'm doing laundry. 00:14:45 Speaker 3: I hate to defend anything Joker men, the Joker, any of these things. 00:14:51 Speaker 2: But I mean, at the end of the day, everyone's making art, right, and that's okay, and that's good and art is good and art's important, right. 00:14:58 Speaker 3: And it was a big reveal of Connor's story. Wait, you know he's at the end of that movie. I mean he's throughout the movie and he's like the big shocking end of the movie. 00:15:07 Speaker 2: I don't remember. I only watched bits and pieces. 00:15:10 Speaker 3: People are gonna, look, there's gonna be a retrospect, but. 00:15:12 Speaker 2: That's on me because I'm sitting here saying I hate a movie that I didn't watch all of it. 00:15:15 Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, So now this is your giving fuel to the manisphere. Right, You're gonna be bullied off of this podcast, right. No, he's at the end of the movie. Spoiler he kills Woking Phoenix. 00:15:30 Speaker 2: That was Connor's story. 00:15:32 Speaker 3: Yes, he's great. 00:15:35 Speaker 2: It's so funny. Before I watched Heated Rivalry, Tod just come out. I was at an event. 00:15:41 Speaker 3: You can kind of say that about literally anything in your life. 00:15:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at an event. 00:15:46 Speaker 3: You're constantly at the market, definite. 00:15:49 Speaker 2: I was at a pop up event. I was buying groceries, but I was at an event and Connor's story walks Connor. I'm gonna call him Connor Stories because I think that's funnier. 00:15:58 Speaker 3: I call I think I've done that by mistake. 00:15:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he walked past me and he was like, I love you. You're the funniest person alive. And I was like, oh, thank you. And I was like, Oh, that's that's the Russian guy from he did Rivalry. The next day I watched it. It took over my life and my soul and I must, I must find him again. You will, because now I love him. 00:16:20 Speaker 3: And he seems like a genuinely nice person. Yeah, doesn't great Russian, Great Russian. 00:16:26 Speaker 2: And let's not forget Hudson Williams. Let's not forget Hutson Williams. Girl, he does a great job. He was incredible, called them the boys. 00:16:37 Speaker 3: We don't want to laugh. 00:16:38 Speaker 2: We love Hudson Williams. He's a Kutie Batiti. 00:16:41 Speaker 3: He just doesn't do a Russian accent or Russian right. And that's an impressive thing. I kept saying, trying to be smart through the first two episodes to my boyfriend, Oh, this is all just really high tech cig with the Russian they've they've done some sort of dubbing. 00:16:55 Speaker 2: That can't possibly really think that? Yeah? 00:16:57 Speaker 3: I was like, k I was just like, this feels so convincing. How could he possibly as a stupid person. I was just like, there's no way, and as kind of an undisciplined person who would never possibly learn how to do. 00:17:08 Speaker 2: That, and I would neither. 00:17:09 Speaker 3: I was like, well, there's just no way unless his parents are Russian. But they're not. He I guess he's just that good. 00:17:16 Speaker 2: I thought he was Russian. Russian. But then I was like, can Russians act? Oh? 00:17:20 Speaker 3: Interesting? 00:17:20 Speaker 2: You know that's the big question? Can they act? I don't know. I don't think they can act like that. 00:17:27 Speaker 3: If I don't know, if that one Russian has ever been able to act? 00:17:32 Speaker 2: Name a Russian. Give me a proof. Name a Russian who can act. 00:17:36 Speaker 3: I can't think of one. 00:17:37 Speaker 2: I can't think of one. 00:17:38 Speaker 3: If I can't think of one, it's obviously true. 00:17:40 Speaker 2: Well, one of my best friends is like full blow Russian. She has an incredible actress that's okay. 00:17:44 Speaker 3: Interesting, Yet you're not willing to name her. 00:17:48 Speaker 2: She will be unnamed. She will be unnamed. 00:17:51 Speaker 3: You're not her publicist, you're her friends. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to get paid if I'm gonna if I'm gonna name her. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, speaking of shocking things and people being stupid, I was looking forward to having you here on the podcast. 00:18:06 Speaker 2: To thank you so much. I was looking forward to being here. I'm such a fan of the pot thank you. 00:18:11 Speaker 3: I mean, well, look, I guess that may or may not be true because the podcast is called I said no Gifts. 00:18:16 Speaker 2: Which I love. I love that title and I love the continess of it, and I love that you are just sort of adorned like I feel very like I should have done I should have done that. 00:18:26 Speaker 3: Oh, are you a little jealous of all the things. 00:18:28 Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous. I kind of feel like I should have put a little more ooph in my gift that I brontersting. 00:18:34 Speaker 3: So you did bring a gift. 00:18:35 Speaker 2: I did bring a gift. I did. 00:18:38 Speaker 3: I did notice you. You know, you should have really late. That was rude. And then I saw you holding a gift that was rude because you strike right. Yeah, I don't know what the third strike will be. 00:18:48 Speaker 2: But I haven't said anything offensive. 00:18:51 Speaker 3: No, nothing offensive okay yet not yet. 00:18:54 Speaker 2: Thank God. We're not having wine. 00:18:58 Speaker 3: It's wine o'clock. Well, we get into the gift here. 00:19:01 Speaker 2: I think that we should. It's not wrapped. 00:19:06 Speaker 3: I think maybe that's wrapped. Okay, Okay, I would say it's beautifully wrapped. It's in kind of this gorgeous white sweater. 00:19:15 Speaker 2: It's in this gorgeous white sweater that I picked up in London, and it is it is meant to wrap gifts. 00:19:24 Speaker 3: Okay, of course this is a gift sweater. 00:19:27 Speaker 2: Then you unwrap it. 00:19:28 Speaker 3: Let me unwrap this, okay, okay, let's see if we can get can we get sweater noise on the podcast? Swetter noise, m soft? Okay, we're unwrapping. 00:19:42 Speaker 2: Oh what could it be? It's erotic terror? Oh my god. 00:19:50 Speaker 3: This is I've I've said this before. This is an erotic podcast. 00:19:54 Speaker 2: And that is how I felt coming here, is that this. 00:19:57 Speaker 3: Is erotic ultimately erotic. Yeah, an erotic Manisphere podcast. 00:20:02 Speaker 2: An erotic Manisphere podcast where there are no Russians in sights because Russians cannot act right. 00:20:08 Speaker 3: There are a few rules and that's kind of what we build this on. Why did you bring me erotic Taro? 00:20:14 Speaker 2: Because I know you really, really well, I've known you for years, right, And I just kind of feel like that that is so you. It's so you. And do you want to know a rule? If you want to have a tarot deck in your house, you should not go out and buy yourself a tarot deck. You should use a tarot deck that was gifted to you. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: Is that true? 00:20:35 Speaker 2: Yes, why it's I don't know, some witch made it up. 00:20:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like maybe some sort of bad someone decided at some point that's bad life actually. 00:20:43 Speaker 2: Or maybe just like a tarot store that was like you should come in and just buy a bunch of decks, fhear, friends, because that's the rule. So I feel like every house should have a tarot deck and it should be gifted. 00:20:56 Speaker 3: I think that's nice. 00:20:57 Speaker 2: And I saw that and I thought it was really beautiful, and I was like, because I've known you. 00:21:02 Speaker 3: Four years a decade at this, pat, Yeah. 00:21:04 Speaker 2: Our parents are each other's parents, and our friends are each other's friends. 00:21:08 Speaker 3: And right, our parents are each other's parents. Everyone knows that. 00:21:11 Speaker 2: Everyone knows that whatever that means. 00:21:13 Speaker 3: We know exactly what that means. Of course, I don't even need to think about. 00:21:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're you're my bridger and I'm your right. I mean, we've just been doing this for so long. 00:21:22 Speaker 3: Very close, very close, and you've given me so many things over the years. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: I have side of what's your favorite thing I've given you? 00:21:29 Speaker 3: Well, it was the bike. 00:21:31 Speaker 2: The bike. 00:21:32 Speaker 3: You remember the bike? 00:21:33 Speaker 2: The bike, Yes, the baby blue bike. 00:21:36 Speaker 3: It's in the parking lot right now. 00:21:38 Speaker 2: Oh you're still using. 00:21:39 Speaker 3: I wrote it to Burbank from where Highland Park. And that is a ride, right And look, not a drop of sweat on. 00:21:46 Speaker 2: Me, not a drop because it's glides. 00:21:48 Speaker 3: Because it glides, and I've been riding it for years. So you know, I'm glad. 00:21:52 Speaker 2: I'm so glad. That makes me. I'm so glad. 00:21:55 Speaker 3: I know you're a good gift giver. I have wondered when will you bring erotic element into gifting? 00:22:02 Speaker 2: Should you pull a card? Of course? Okay, let's see here. 00:22:06 Speaker 3: Do are you familiar with what each card means? 00:22:12 Speaker 2: Sort of? But also, my house guest did like an hour long taro reading on me last night. 00:22:18 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:22:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of just like something is energetically happening within me right now. But I think in there is probably a little booklet that'll help us along, that'll help us along I want. 00:22:29 Speaker 3: To read the back it says, be guided by your desire. Okay, way ahead of you. Deepen your personal Tarot journey with a focus on love and pleasure, pleasure. This fully illustrated seventy eight card tarot deck comes with an extensive booklet guiding you through ways of reading the cards to help you explore intimate possibilities unlock your erotic potential. I'm finally ready to unlock my erotic potential. 00:22:53 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think it's so you. It really is so you. 00:22:58 Speaker 3: You know, of course, of course, Okay, let's oh, I like how that sounds. 00:23:03 Speaker 2: It's nice. It's like an Apple box. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a. 00:23:06 Speaker 2: Box that you would get from the Apple store. 00:23:09 Speaker 3: Not an apple designed in Coopertino. Ye. 00:23:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right, this could. 00:23:13 Speaker 3: Be an Apple product. Okay, look at how sixy? Wow that's a very sixy? What is this going to lead to? 00:23:20 Speaker 2: This? H The podcast is getting steamy? Should I Should I shuffle the cards? Yeah? 00:23:25 Speaker 3: Shuffle? Let's see, Yeah, because I'm gonna pull it for you. So you need to shuffle it. 00:23:30 Speaker 2: You need You're going to be for you? 00:23:32 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you so I should shuffle right? So I can imbue it with my energy. 00:23:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels right. 00:23:39 Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm telling you. 00:23:40 Speaker 2: That's no. I'm going to pull for you. You shuffle and I'm going to pull for you. Those are the rules. 00:23:45 Speaker 3: And I mean, I think what the trouble I'm having right now is when the person pulls for so you pull for me, that means the card will be about me. 00:23:55 Speaker 2: Huh. 00:23:55 Speaker 3: Okay, so I need to touch the cards right now and then when I pull for you. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: But i'm the interpreter. 00:24:00 Speaker 3: Right when it's your turn to get your taro red, you'll you will touch the car, sure, and then I will pull for you. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: Or we can also just do whatever the fun we want. 00:24:08 Speaker 3: No, no, this is serious. This is erotic. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: This is serious. This is erotic. 00:24:15 Speaker 3: This is going to lead to me unlocking my potential. And I'm not going to screw around. Okay, I did a I can't shove a car. I'm no dealer. Okay, so there we go. And okay, so. 00:24:31 Speaker 2: Now so now you pull. Okay, so now energetically pick a card. Okay, here we go. 00:24:37 Speaker 3: So now I flipped you flip it. We're so mad about this. 00:24:41 Speaker 2: So this is the three of candles. Okay, that's erotic. Okay, what is the three of candles? 00:24:49 Speaker 3: Okay? Look at that? Let me see that car. 00:24:51 Speaker 2: Look look at this card. Okay, three of candles. 00:24:54 Speaker 3: I will say, it's a you know, it's like a red candelabra with some pink melting candles of candles. I don't think I've ever seen a three of candles in another deck. So are they like? 00:25:04 Speaker 2: These are kind of like each deck is sort of like it's jelly beans beans and the four of gumdocs. You know, they're kind of I think candles is maybe swords swords, right, yeah, okay, three of candles Okay, so the candles which is actually supposed to be wands in a classic terrale. 00:25:24 Speaker 3: Oh okay. 00:25:25 Speaker 2: Spontaneity okay, fast action, fast action, that's erotic. 00:25:29 Speaker 3: Passion, passion, okay, power power. 00:25:33 Speaker 2: Oh, adrenaline, oh life force, creative fuel and urges inspired work, stroke of genius. And this is the three of candles. Stay determined to remain adventurous. Take your ideas for a walk. Take your ideas for a walk, seek outside influences. A third component may further ignite. 00:26:05 Speaker 3: Oh in right, go on a walk and find a third. 00:26:10 Speaker 2: And then there's a little a subcomment. Don't be nonchalant about any collaborations proposed to you. Make sure all parties are comfortable going forward. What am I. 00:26:27 Speaker 3: Supposed to do with that information? And also what does that leave for the rest of the cards? I feel like it covered every corner of the erotic world. 00:26:34 Speaker 2: Right, it's more erotic than that, right? 00:26:37 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's have you imbue the cards with your energy. Pull for you or you pull for again. My apologies to the new age community. Crystal shop owners are mad, but you know. 00:26:51 Speaker 2: This is really impossible to shuffle. 00:26:52 Speaker 3: They're very difficult. Anytime I have to I'm in charge of shuffling cards, I embarrass myself. 00:26:58 Speaker 2: I feel again, this is awful math class. Yeah, I was bad at math in school. I was diagnosed with ADHD. 00:27:05 Speaker 3: Did they make you do cards? 00:27:07 Speaker 2: No, they just gave me like extensive testing and then started talking to me like I couldn't hear. So that was my high school experience. Caitlin, are you doing okay? This is the lesson making sense to you? Yep. I'm sexually active and I smoke clothes cigarettes. I'm doing good anyway, Just me trauma dumping on you. 00:27:28 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I had give it and then you I think I'm supposed to be like bop bop bop. But let's we have to, you know, eye for an eye, so you just pull one. We've got to have kind of a one for one situation. 00:27:43 Speaker 2: Okay, mine is the chariot. 00:27:45 Speaker 3: The chariot, and look at describe what's happening on that chariot card. 00:27:49 Speaker 2: This card, it looks like it looks like a gay Pride parade. 00:27:55 Speaker 3: It looks like gay Mad Max. 00:27:56 Speaker 2: It looks like gay Mad Max is exactly what it looks like. 00:28:00 Speaker 3: They're like, there's a car. There's a biker gang. 00:28:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way to Long Beach. 00:28:05 Speaker 3: They're obvious, they're headed south and there are four people in a car, three who are standing. 00:28:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is really unsafe, right, And I'm not about like non safety on the road. No, No, I don't like that. Seat belts, seatbelts please. 00:28:19 Speaker 3: We went through a large period of human history where a seatbelt was optional, which is interesting. 00:28:23 Speaker 2: Yes, like like, yeah, what was it that the seventies live? I'm so young? What was the seventies? 00:28:30 Speaker 3: Like, you're afraid people are going to think you were born in nineteen forty. 00:28:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm online a lot and people people think I'm like someone's grandmother. 00:28:42 Speaker 3: Who is this lady? She eighty years old? 00:28:44 Speaker 2: What are you still doing on TikTok? Let me read. 00:28:49 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think for you. 00:28:50 Speaker 2: What is it the chariot? Let me try and find it for you. I think it's I think it's at the front. 00:28:56 Speaker 3: Okay, the Empress, the emperor, Okay, let's see the fool. 00:29:02 Speaker 2: I feel like you don't like my gift. 00:29:03 Speaker 3: I love this, Actually, what do you like about it? I mean, I love how sexy it is. I love how steamy it is. I love that it's just kind of bringing a new heat. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: To the park, front, to the front. I went all the way to the. 00:29:17 Speaker 3: Front the chariots chery. 00:29:19 Speaker 2: Here we go. 00:29:21 Speaker 3: This says your keywords are will to succeed. This is a less success or less sexy thing already. Confidence. 00:29:28 Speaker 2: Vehicles. I love the way you say vehicles vestibules. 00:29:36 Speaker 3: How would you say vehicle vestible? 00:29:41 Speaker 2: A moving entity? Vehicle, vehicle. 00:29:47 Speaker 3: The hicless the hicless graduation, adolescent cockiness what okay? Landing on one's feet upstarts and startups. That feels like a CBS. 00:30:00 Speaker 2: I kind of feel like this was written by. 00:30:02 Speaker 3: Ai Fame probably was Let's fame in the Yes, we like this for you and championing which you didn't do for your Russian French. 00:30:14 Speaker 2: Her career is falling apart. 00:30:17 Speaker 3: Oh, right, image, it's somebody's first pride parade. Rainbows around ah, my first pride parade. 00:30:25 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:30:25 Speaker 3: This is the feeling of triumph when you set yourself a goal and achieved it for all to see. This is a glorious moment of exhilaration onlookers acknowledge and admire you. Bravery and determination have paid off. Though this is only the first step in a longer journey, so now you need some advice. This is often a card to first experiences. Make up your mind to do something and then carry it out, despite uncertainty and unsteadiness in the early stages. Don't dwell on the details. Keep your courage up and you will win. Take care. You won't get what you want unless you make it decisive effort. Enjoy your victory for a while, but then you'll need a fresh angle. You can't stick to the same approach. This is all over the place. Consider sharing a need to overcome internal conflicts. The whiplash of what you're supposed to be doing. 00:31:15 Speaker 2: What is happening? I don't even know what this means? What does this mean? 00:31:20 Speaker 3: I'm getting motion sickness. 00:31:22 Speaker 2: I hate this card. 00:31:24 Speaker 3: The only thing that works here is fame. 00:31:26 Speaker 2: So all I heard was fame. 00:31:28 Speaker 3: You got stars in your eyes. 00:31:31 Speaker 2: Fame and that people admire me. And then also to what. 00:31:36 Speaker 3: To do a bunch of it's going to require work that doesn't happen, and I don't know that that's going to be precise. No, you strike me as a very lazy person. There's zero sex in this God, you're at your first Pride parade. You're the dork. 00:31:51 Speaker 2: Maybe it's telling me that I'm going to be in La Pride Parade this year. 00:31:55 Speaker 3: So interesting on a float? 00:31:57 Speaker 2: I would love fame, fame. Interesting. Have you been to a Pride parade before? Never? 00:32:02 Speaker 3: Okay, so this. 00:32:03 Speaker 2: Is actually protest. No, I've been too many. You've driven by home. I'm an ally Bridger, Bridger, Bridger, you're an ally. 00:32:17 Speaker 3: You're an ally? Yeah, I you know the moment I met you through my parents years and years ago, when my parents introduced me to your parents, they said, our daughter, you got to meet the scale she's an ally. She wasn't before it was bad. 00:32:33 Speaker 2: I was sort of an I was sort of like, you know, playing pretend to my dollhouse, and like I didn't want to be a doctor. I didn't want to be a marine biologist. I didn't want to be an actress. I wanted to be an ally. Right, That's what I That's what I was pretending to be. You were pretending, Yeah, what do you want to be? When you grew up an ally? Right? 00:32:49 Speaker 3: So then you went mask off and you were not an ally for that. You know, those five years or so. 00:32:54 Speaker 2: That was a dark time. 00:32:55 Speaker 3: That was a dark time. But we're glad to have you back on our team. 00:32:58 Speaker 2: Thank you. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: And now you're meeting Connor story at events. I know you're kind of and you're gonna be on a float. I'm gonna be on a float, probably of your own design. 00:33:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, could you just show up? 00:33:09 Speaker 3: You could probably just design a float and show up at a parade. 00:33:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of feel like, hey, guys, I've been working on this for a while. It's made of flowers, and can I just roll through? 00:33:22 Speaker 3: Right? 00:33:23 Speaker 2: I feel like it is a really intricate process though, But. 00:33:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you do all the work for that, and you show up and they don't let you get in the parade. What are we doing? Yeah? 00:33:30 Speaker 2: What are parade's for? I also kind of I have a sneaking suspicion that float people are really. 00:33:37 Speaker 3: Obnoxious, really normal. 00:33:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh, what does your cousin do? She builds floats, she wants stop fucking talking about it. 00:33:43 Speaker 3: How do you get into the float biz? 00:33:46 Speaker 2: How do you get into the float bit? 00:33:47 Speaker 3: How do you break in? 00:33:48 Speaker 2: I don't know. 00:33:50 Speaker 3: You probably get big on TikTok. 00:33:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, big on TikTok. You get like viral for like your cat or something. Then all of a sudden you're sort of like parlayed into the float to the float, and then all of a sudden you're like, you know, at the red carpet at the vanity for Oscar party, asking you know, people questions just because that question that is the pipeline. 00:34:09 Speaker 3: Smart questions, incisive questions. 00:34:12 Speaker 2: I was a float influencer and now I'm at the. 00:34:15 Speaker 3: Met Yeah, it's the natural paths the natural. That's journalism, that's journalism, that's journalism, that's integrity. Yeah, what sort of tarot cards do you have at home? 00:34:30 Speaker 2: I have a couple. I have one that's like a little pocket tarot book called The Wild Unknown. Oh, I like that where it's like really cool pictures. And then I was given another tarot deck that I think is Russian. 00:34:46 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you brought a Russian theme and. 00:34:49 Speaker 2: That was Those were both gifted to me. 00:34:53 Speaker 3: You've never purchased I purchased this one for yourself. 00:34:58 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 00:35:00 Speaker 3: No, you're a real natural teraro y person. 00:35:03 Speaker 2: I just like I like witchy stuff sometimes. You know, that's because because I don't have a good foundation, that's. 00:35:11 Speaker 3: Why you're kind of out of control. 00:35:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little emotionally out of control, So I like terot cards. 00:35:15 Speaker 3: I would describe you first as lost. 00:35:18 Speaker 2: I'm a little lost. I have my astrological sig tattooed on my wrist that I'm currently in the process of trying to get rid of. 00:35:23 Speaker 3: Is that true? 00:35:23 Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I see it? Yeah? So it's speckily because I actually started the process of getting it removed at Laser Away, but I had a very unfortunate experience there, so I didn't I didn't finish the process. 00:35:39 Speaker 3: Well, this is an unfortunate experience at Laser Way it's. 00:35:42 Speaker 2: Just a laser away. 00:35:45 Speaker 3: Is that what it's called. Yes, it sounds like a spinoff of massage envy or something. 00:35:50 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, God I miss massage envy. But no. I went in and there's kind of like they call you like hey, babe or haym like came on, my things are coming in, and I just like call me, ma'am. 00:36:03 Speaker 3: This is a medical proceedure. 00:36:04 Speaker 2: This is a medical procedure. Call me by my full government name. 00:36:09 Speaker 3: We're not on bean bags, right, And. 00:36:12 Speaker 2: I went in one of the rooms and I'm sitting there and the practitioner that walked in, uh, at one point like dropped the machine, was like, oh sorry, I'm just like all over the place today, and then dropped the glasses on the ground that she was supposed to put on my face. And then I think I was trying to be like kind and charming. So I was like, oh god, it's my first time a little I'm a little nervous. You know, I've also told this story in another podcast. 00:36:40 Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll get those removed, okay. 00:36:43 Speaker 2: But so she was about to take a laser to my skin, right, it is a it is a procedure. So she was about to take the laser to my skin, but instead she grabs my arm, shakes it and goes So then I also started screaming. I look at her, I go, what what? She cocks her head back, starts laughing hysterically and goes, I'm just fucking with you, girl. And like I partly appreciated the gumption, like I was like, yes, yes, right, like you're my kind of girl. But then the other half of me is like this is not good at all. And then she did it and she was like, ah fuck, I feel like it didn't do a lot. Like I just felt it was just not. 00:37:38 Speaker 3: Like in this moment, you're like, I'm sorry, this isn't working for me. 00:37:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then so then I left and then I had another I had another appointment like six weeks later. So I went to that other appointment, same thing. It was just like kind of chaos. The machine wasn't working, and the girl that was doing me, she's like, I mean, do you want to use this machine? And I was like, you tell the other what's going on. So then I got so it's really expensive, and I got mad and then I complained. So then Laser Away Customer Service called me to sort of talk about the incident, and I was like, listen, I know that these girls are working really here like I, but it was just it was not good. I was like, also, the room was like really dirty and wasn't prepped for a patient. The customer service person I'm talking to you goes dirty? What do you mean dirty? Do you have pictures giving me attitude like I'm in a sorority? It was so weird. And then I posted it on Instagram and then they finally refunded me because I. 00:38:33 Speaker 3: Posted on it. Right, you eventually kind of have to blackmail them. 00:38:36 Speaker 2: I blackmailed them on Instagram where I was like I had such a bad experience there, and then they finally you. 00:38:42 Speaker 3: Can't privately complain anymore. Private complaints do very little. 00:38:46 Speaker 2: And I have to say I do love complaining when it's warranted, of course, yeah, I really do love it. 00:38:52 Speaker 3: Well, it improves whatever the problem is. Eventually somebody is told yeah, and then you might get a free coupon. And I love a free I love complaining in coupon. So what a perfect combination. So what was the end result that you got your money back? 00:39:06 Speaker 2: I got my full money back, and they were like, let's let's start over. And I was like, you're never touching me again, like. 00:39:12 Speaker 3: It's a marriage. 00:39:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, like someone else. It was just so weird because it was like, no, I think that this is just like a poorly run business and you're hiring a bunch of people that you're you're not training, so it's like kind of not their fault, it's like management's fault whatever. I don't know anything about anything. 00:39:28 Speaker 3: Is there another laser place you can turn to? 00:39:30 Speaker 2: I don't know. And so I have this specky, stupid tattoo. 00:39:36 Speaker 3: When did you get it? 00:39:37 Speaker 2: I got it when I was twenty three after a really bad breakup. Oh sure, I had cut my hair. I started I started bleaching it like white. Okay. I I was wearing a cutoff. 00:39:48 Speaker 3: T shirts very run, Lola Run. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: Yes, I was wearing cutoff T shirts like all my T shirts didn't have sleeves because that was sort of like the indie luck. In twenty thirteen, I was going to Harvard and Stone every night. Okay, I was doing improv. That's when I started doing improv. And I was like, I'm going to spend time in your life. Yeah, And I was like I'm going to drive out to duarte and I'm going to get a tattoo, and that's exactly what I did. 00:40:14 Speaker 3: I think it's so inoffensive. I feel like, what just keep it well. 00:40:18 Speaker 2: Some people think that it's the word me. Oh interesting, and then some people think that it's like a Christian emblem the right yeah, and then some people think it's another astrological sign that it isn't. So like, no one really knows what the fuck this is. 00:40:33 Speaker 3: Which sign is it? It's Virgo. 00:40:36 Speaker 2: It looks exactly like Scorpio, except a little different. 00:40:39 Speaker 3: I wonder if you I wouldn't have known that was an astrological sign. I wonder what my guests would have been. I think I would have been like, it's MP. Yeah. 00:40:47 Speaker 2: I've been like, what are the who is MP? To you? Also, this was supposed to be a matching best friend tattoo with my best friend, and so I got the tattoo first and it was three times bigger than i'd ask And so she's watching it happened. She's like, wow, that's really big, and then she got it done in a different place right here. Oh it looks like a mole. So I got kind of dupped. 00:41:10 Speaker 3: I would rather have a tattoo than a weird mole on my finger. 00:41:14 Speaker 2: I'd rather have a weird mole on my fing You'd. 00:41:16 Speaker 3: Rather have a that's what you think. But then you're prepping food and people are like, uh, you should have gloves. 00:41:21 Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of mole are we talking about? 00:41:23 Speaker 3: I mean it seems like if I can spot a mole on a finger, that's a big mole. 00:41:27 Speaker 2: I have moles on my fingers. No, you don't. People rarely have If I do, you know, it's weird I have. I had a mole on my finger that actually disappeared. 00:41:39 Speaker 3: Did you ever have warts on your hands? Oh? 00:41:41 Speaker 2: My god, I was a wart kid. 00:41:43 Speaker 3: You were, I, thank god? And knock on wood. I wasn't, but that seemed like a tough thing to have. 00:41:48 Speaker 2: I got warts on my thumbs all the time, and I got warts on my toes all the time. 00:41:55 Speaker 3: Wo how does that happen? 00:41:57 Speaker 2: Just you know? I would I was a barefoot kid. I would like be in the backyard a lot. I loved feeling like I was a fairy, so like movies like The Secret Garden or like The Little Princess, Like I'm just sort of like in the wild, And I would have to go to my mom's dermatologist and they would have to freeze the warts off, and I used to get the same wart on my thumb and ah god, it was so painful. It was like a huge part of my childhood. That and the fact that I had to wear a patch for my lazy eye. 00:42:27 Speaker 3: Oh interesting. Yeah, so that the patch is cool. 00:42:35 Speaker 2: It wasn't cool. It wasn't cool. 00:42:37 Speaker 3: I'm trying to support you. 00:42:39 Speaker 2: It wasn't cool. It was They're like, wow, her eyes are fucked up. So I wear a patch. 00:42:45 Speaker 3: I think a patch when it's like the kind of beige color not a good book. 00:42:50 Speaker 2: It was flesh color. 00:42:52 Speaker 3: It gotta go with a black one. The black eye patch is cool and dangerous. All the other ones are I'm embarrassed of my eye patch. No, embrace it. 00:43:01 Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. 00:43:03 Speaker 3: It's got a long history with pirates, et cetera. It looks like kind of spooky and edgy. 00:43:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:43:09 Speaker 3: The other thing is, don't look at me, right, and then we're all looking at you. 00:43:12 Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think it's a lot sexier now, right. I think that we've sexified the I finally, finally, which is good and good for us, right, thanks, I mean for you and I personally, I think next it'll be the peg leg. 00:43:26 Speaker 3: Oh that could be sexy. Yeah, but I mean I feel like all of those things. Are you embrace rather than run? 00:43:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, embrace ale things. 00:43:34 Speaker 3: So you have wars, So you have a long history with things being burned off your body. 00:43:38 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, interesting. I recently got something burned off my nose. Not a wart, it was a popule. 00:43:45 Speaker 3: Oh mm hmm. What's the difference between that and a zi. 00:43:48 Speaker 2: Well, so a popule is like a really hard nodule on your skin that looks exactly like basil cell carcinoma. Oh, and so so it could be dangerous. It could be dangerous. I was on TikTok at two o'clock in the morning and I saw I was like, oh, that's that thing on my nose. And this person was like, I had extensive, messed up skin cancer on my face. And so I started crying and I woke up my husband and I was like, I have skin cancer. He was like what. So I went to my dermatologist that burned off my words when I was a kid. You're still going to the same person, same one. 00:44:20 Speaker 3: Wow. I like a lifelong doctor. 00:44:23 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I went in there and it's tizzy. I was like, I have skin cancer, right? She told me it was a papule. She burns it off. 00:44:31 Speaker 3: Are you not going in for a yearly checkup? No? 00:44:34 Speaker 2: Because I'm not good at that. But now I'm an adult, and now I am. 00:44:38 Speaker 3: You gotta do it. 00:44:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, So now I have a dentist. 00:44:40 Speaker 3: Now, okay, you've got a dentist. That's a hart. I just got two all caps texts for my dentist. I'm quite sure what's going on. 00:44:47 Speaker 2: What did they say? 00:44:48 Speaker 3: The first was the office is sick. We have to cancel your appointment. 00:44:52 Speaker 2: The office is in all all. The office is sick. We have to cancel your appointment. Where is this dentist? 00:44:59 Speaker 3: I don't want to to name the person, but why do you have so much? Oh my god, I'm not sure it's something I heard a witch dentist in the past. 00:45:11 Speaker 2: Well wait, who is that? 00:45:13 Speaker 3: That's Alice Ellis is upset that I have a lot of dentists from. And I will say, in my defense, I love this dentist. They're in Glendale. 00:45:21 Speaker 2: Ellis. I'm so sorry. I got so scared by your voice that was really scary. That was on me. You guys are trying to breeze. You're trying to breeze past that. 00:45:29 Speaker 3: I've never protect my dentist. 00:45:31 Speaker 2: No, no, no, Ellis, that was really scary. 00:45:33 Speaker 3: I pushed my protect the dentist button and that tells Ellis. 00:45:36 Speaker 2: But in Ellis times in Okay. 00:45:39 Speaker 3: No, they're in Glendale, and I love I love this group of people. 00:45:43 Speaker 2: Something well. 00:45:45 Speaker 3: I think Glendale is wonderful. 00:45:47 Speaker 2: I lived in Glendale for three years. It was three years of what. 00:45:49 Speaker 3: Was so rough about it? 00:45:50 Speaker 2: Everything? 00:45:53 Speaker 3: I like Glendale. I like the Americana. I love the Galleria. 00:45:57 Speaker 2: Oh, for fuck's sake, I prefer the Gallery. I prefer anything outside of Glendale, the Americana. 00:46:05 Speaker 3: Really, that AMC is the only movie theater I'll go to at this point. 00:46:10 Speaker 2: The only AMC I'll go to is the one at the God, the Lamely the what's it called. Oh it's off of Sunset. Oh oh no, no, no, it's not even it's not an AMC. It's a Landmark. Yeah, it's off of Sunset. It's worth it's where Crunch used to be. 00:46:30 Speaker 3: It's like the Bermuda Triangles. 00:46:31 Speaker 2: I know, but they have a Landmark Theater there that is top drawer. 00:46:35 Speaker 3: It's very nice. But it's like the park. Oh my god, I wouldn't. 00:46:38 Speaker 2: Even dare there's a CB two right there? 00:46:41 Speaker 3: Is it free parking? 00:46:42 Speaker 2: I mean, is anywhere free parking? 00:46:44 Speaker 3: The galleria and then you walk to the America, Yeah. 00:46:47 Speaker 2: They need people. There is there a Brookstone still in the galleria? That's a good question. 00:46:54 Speaker 3: Probably them all is large and mysterious. They've got three floors, they've got a they've got a kinds of nooks and cran probably. 00:47:01 Speaker 2: I bet they have like a brick and mortar dippin' dots. 00:47:06 Speaker 3: They have a lot of rotating dessert shops. Yeah, your dessert shops and malls. I'm always like, okay, just close it down, just get ahead of yourself. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: No one's dessert person. 00:47:15 Speaker 3: I love desserts, but in the mall, when it's like waffles with chocolate syrup on them, I'm like, this isn'to mall food. No one's eating this on one of those weird mall couches. 00:47:24 Speaker 2: Right, I love a mall couch. 00:47:26 Speaker 3: Oh do you ever eat on them? 00:47:28 Speaker 2: I'm sure I have. I always think, like I always think when I look at a mall couch and I look at like the furniture within an enclosed mall. Where is that store? Right? Like, are they like do malls talk to each other and they just have a warehouse the mall furniture or are they buying it from Is there a mall furniture store or is it like here's the mall now we have all the furniture for the mall, which comes from the same guys that built the mall. 00:47:58 Speaker 3: Like, what's this from the guys brought you mall? 00:48:01 Speaker 2: Here's mall sofa? 00:48:03 Speaker 3: Do you know what a twisted mind of. 00:48:05 Speaker 2: Yes, from the twisted mind of Beverly Center. We have sort of couch. 00:48:11 Speaker 3: I think they have well, I'm kind of picturing right now playing the SIMS and you just click buttons and then you're kind of rotating the couch around in the mall. Mall tycoon. 00:48:20 Speaker 2: I love this, of course, Wait, they should do mal tycoon. 00:48:23 Speaker 3: I think there was a malt tycoon and I think it sucked. 00:48:25 Speaker 2: Oh okay, did you ever do roller coaster tycoon? Who do you think you're talking? Of course? Did you did SIMS? 00:48:31 Speaker 3: You were like I did SIMS and roller roller coaster tycoon? 00:48:34 Speaker 2: And you hid your sims have sex a lot, of course, okay, of course called was it called woohoo? 00:48:41 Speaker 3: Wo Yeah, they're getting under the covers and kind of then they're just kind of two things, kind of maneuvering around underneath. 00:48:51 Speaker 2: The sheep that you're here. Wos not big not big golda and it's woohoo. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: And then we're how does the baby arrive? Does a stork bring it? 00:49:00 Speaker 2: I think that. 00:49:02 Speaker 3: You open the toilet. 00:49:03 Speaker 2: I don't think the sim was pregnant for him. I think the sim is pregnant now. Now it's like very intricate. 00:49:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really getting into the realistic aspect. Yeah, and I've kind of had to distance myself. 00:49:13 Speaker 2: I know it's a little stressful. I'm trying to build my house exactly, but it's like really like you need to be an architect, like you need to do math, and I don't know what's going on. 00:49:22 Speaker 3: And they don't have your wallpaper, right, so forget it. 00:49:26 Speaker 2: I don't have any wallpaper. You don't have that wallpaper. I need to renovate parts in my house. 00:49:30 Speaker 3: Okay, it's wallpaper on its way out. 00:49:33 Speaker 2: No, I think that a powder room slash guest math should be wallpapered. 00:49:38 Speaker 3: I think we're probably at peak wallpaper though, right. Don't you feel like we're like headed back towards no wallpaper? 00:49:45 Speaker 2: No, because I hate what millennials have done to interior design. I think I think it's the worst thing we've done to society. 00:49:52 Speaker 3: Well, hate it or not. Trends come and go. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: But I do think wallpaper stays. You think I do, But. 00:49:59 Speaker 3: There was don't you remember the period when people thought, get rid of all paper, get rid of carpet, And we're kind of still away from carpet. 00:50:06 Speaker 2: I okay, so I ripped up the carpet in my house because it was I mean, you can't do carpet, but I will say I do kind of love a carpeted bedroom. 00:50:15 Speaker 3: Oh it feels amazing on your feet. Yeah, but it's just how do you get one that looks good? 00:50:19 Speaker 2: You get you need to go flashy, You need to get like a dark fun like. You need to make it a vibe. Right. 00:50:25 Speaker 3: You can't like an eye patch situation. You want it to shine run. 00:50:31 Speaker 2: Away the dazzled eye patch, not flesh colored. 00:50:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. A beige carpet is like, you can't do. 00:50:36 Speaker 2: A beige carpet, right, yeah, but. 00:50:38 Speaker 3: Then I'm I can't. I cannot picture a good looking carpet. 00:50:43 Speaker 2: Yeah you can, Yeah, you can go on Nordic Knots dot com Nordic No, yeah they have really. I just well, I just bought a rug from Nordic Knots because I was freaking out about the rug I was going to buy. I ended up buying another rug. So now I have a Nordic Knots rug coming. But it's bright royal blue. 00:51:02 Speaker 3: Oh that sounds nice. Now, a rug, that's nice. A rug I can do with. But a full carpet. What about a fully carpeted mall? 00:51:11 Speaker 2: I hate that this is this could save. It feels like a backroom. Do you know like backrooms? 00:51:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, a mall where every floor is carpeted. Imagine the sound in there would be so damp. 00:51:23 Speaker 2: Oh god, that's how I feel about like huge hotels of the big conference floors. Oh yeah, I don't like that. 00:51:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can't really hear your feet hit the floor. 00:51:33 Speaker 2: Can you hear anything? 00:51:34 Speaker 3: You vanish? 00:51:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, you vanished? That's where you go to vanish. Wow. 00:51:38 Speaker 3: No, I'm sure no one's been brave enough to try that yet with a fully fully carpeted mall. 00:51:43 Speaker 2: I think that it wouldn't go well because I think that I think that people are disgusting shoes off shoes a shoe off mall. 00:51:52 Speaker 3: Yikes, Look you say that. 00:51:54 Speaker 2: Now, I don't want to see anyone's feet. Ever, how do you feel about your own feet? I my feet are really cute, but I don't like I want everyone's feet away from me. 00:52:07 Speaker 3: Okay, so the shoes off mall is probably not for you. 00:52:11 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you wear flip flops? 00:52:13 Speaker 3: I don't, Okay, good. I guess if I were like on a vacation that was going to be almost exclusively beach, I would probably have crocs, okay. Or I guess I would put on flip flops, but then I just don't have any other use for them in my life. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: It's like your daily shoe. 00:52:30 Speaker 3: It's this. 00:52:31 Speaker 2: It's a kind of oh god, it's a it's a van. Is that a van? 00:52:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a van in kind of a marshmallow beige color. 00:52:40 Speaker 2: I like that. 00:52:41 Speaker 3: I've bought several pairs that are now I have a new pair in the closet, just waiting until these ones die, and then I have worse pairs than this for other occasions, and they're all the same color, only it's the only one that I'm like, I like how this looks. 00:52:53 Speaker 2: And what's the original color white? 00:52:56 Speaker 3: No, it's this color. So it's kind of an off white, so it's not immediately dirty like it. You can build up the level of dirt on this. This is probably a month old. 00:53:06 Speaker 2: Shoe at this point. That is, that's like a cool guy shoe. 00:53:09 Speaker 3: This is a cool guy shoe. And you are talking to a cool You are cool, Thank you, thank. 00:53:13 Speaker 2: You are like cool guy. 00:53:14 Speaker 3: I'm cool guy. Yeah, I'm the cool guy. And this is a podcast for guys. Yeah, cool guys in the manisphere. Yeah, so this is essentially the only shoe I'll wear at this point. Okay, what would you wear? I mean if you were at the beach? 00:53:29 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so like a flip. 00:53:30 Speaker 3: Flop flip flop, but not in any other. 00:53:33 Speaker 2: My feet are the only feet that are okay with me. I'm wearing brocken Stocks right now. So my toes are. 00:53:37 Speaker 3: Out there, they're out and parking. So would you wear a flip flop anywhere else in life? No? 00:53:45 Speaker 2: What about to like peticure, No, I'd wear Brickenstocks Okay, be reasonable. 00:53:51 Speaker 3: This is my problem. I need to think this through. When I go to get a pedicure, I always wear socks and shoes and then. 00:53:57 Speaker 2: After why I don't know, But do you forget? 00:54:00 Speaker 3: I just I don't do it often enough. I'm not part of that world enough to like know what I would which, like should I wear a crock or something? Wear a crock because afterwards your foot is dried, but it's still damp enough that you're like pulling on the sock in a weird way. 00:54:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think sometimes your feet need to breathe, so you wear like an enclosed sandal. 00:54:22 Speaker 3: An enclosed sandal or a slide. 00:54:27 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like how a slide. 00:54:29 Speaker 3: It looks like backtball, right, I don't know where I should turn, and I don't want to drive around in a flip flop or be seen wearing jeans and flip flops. 00:54:39 Speaker 2: But I'm sure that's going to come back. Jeans and flip flops are really really gross to me. I really don't like that. It's I'm sure it's on its way back. Just brace yourself. Yeah, I don't like it at all. 00:54:49 Speaker 3: Six years from now, you're going to be tooling around them all in a pair of you know, cut jeans and flip flops. 00:54:54 Speaker 2: I think that men wearing jeans and flip flops is like it. I don't want any man wearing a flip I'm so sorry. I'm so so sorry. I really it's really it's mostly straight men, right. I don't know if you've ever looked at a straight man's foot. 00:55:09 Speaker 3: I've looked at my feet, and as a gay man, I don't agree with my feet. 00:55:14 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure your feet are more beautiful than you think. You're really beautiful, I don't. I don't want to comment on anything being ugly, but I do think I'm allowed to say this about straight men, and I think that they need to put their feet away, keep them away. Yeah, like you're not allowed. How about you're not allowed to do that, right, That's not something you should ever do. 00:55:34 Speaker 3: But I don't want you giving gay men permission to wear flip flops either. 00:55:37 Speaker 2: Well, I think gay men can do whatever they want. 00:55:40 Speaker 3: See now, this is where I disagree. 00:55:43 Speaker 2: I'm an ally. It's my job. Boys, listen to me, do whatever the fuck you want. Mama's here. That's what I say. 00:55:58 Speaker 3: I'm the first gay person you've ever talked? Okay, well, I think we should probably play a game. Do we have anything left to say about Taro? 00:56:11 Speaker 2: Now? 00:56:12 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull one more card okay, and you're gonna pull one more card. 00:56:15 Speaker 2: I feel like we should see. 00:56:18 Speaker 3: And these are just for us? 00:56:19 Speaker 2: Okay, what's yours? 00:56:21 Speaker 3: Mine is the eight of Roses? 00:56:24 Speaker 2: Okay, and mine is the seven of roses. 00:56:27 Speaker 3: What does that mean other than we're bad at shuffling. 00:56:29 Speaker 2: Other than we're bad at shuffling? 00:56:31 Speaker 3: Wait? 00:56:31 Speaker 2: What's this one? The King of shells? 00:56:34 Speaker 3: Okay, the King of shells? And it's two people in a gross embrace. That's probably one of the grossest embraces you could do. 00:56:40 Speaker 2: Oh really, I would you agree? I actually really love this kind of embrace. You don't like this one? 00:56:45 Speaker 3: Well, how would you describe that as an embrace? That is so gross to me? 00:56:49 Speaker 2: It's it's you know, you're you're you're twisty tewing to each other, You're looking apple your crisscross apple sauce to each other. 00:56:57 Speaker 3: Your legs are wrapped around each other like that, and you're so close. 00:57:01 Speaker 2: I think that's cozy, it's wet, it's what what do you think they're doing? 00:57:05 Speaker 3: I look at that, and I'm like, there's a dampness. There's a strange element to the way people were sitting. That's not for me. 00:57:14 Speaker 2: Okay, what what do you like? What do you like? 00:57:20 Speaker 3: Bottom of foot to bottom of foot, legs completely stretched. 00:57:23 Speaker 2: You No, I don't like that. I do like this. This is cozy. 00:57:28 Speaker 3: Do you like that? 00:57:29 Speaker 2: I do? 00:57:29 Speaker 3: Okay, listener, I like. 00:57:31 Speaker 2: To talk to people like this. I call this the drew Berry Moore. 00:57:35 Speaker 3: That is a total drew Berry drew. 00:57:37 Speaker 2: Berrymore for sure. So this is our clarification card. But wait, so you picked this six roses roses. Okay, give me the buck. Okay, let me try and find it. Okay, Jesus christ Erre, it's the drew Berry Moore. Wait where are Why is this so hard to I think it's. 00:57:56 Speaker 3: Kind of part of the the you know, spiritual element of this. 00:58:01 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 00:58:02 Speaker 3: Different cards move from page to page, say of. 00:58:04 Speaker 2: The same you got the eight of roses, you said. 00:58:06 Speaker 3: I got the eight of roses. 00:58:07 Speaker 2: Okay, eight of roses. A regular and reliable arrangement or resource. Sometimes we just want someone who can comfortably deliver. 00:58:16 Speaker 3: That's such a low bar. 00:58:18 Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically you're like you just want someone to take care of you, right, you would be taking care of right, which I love that for you. And then mine is I got the seven of Roses. Mine is slow down, don't overthink a situation that simply needs to run its course. Your patience and dedication will win out. So basically, I don't really know. 00:58:39 Speaker 3: It's that kind of a critical mom card. Yeah you know, she's just kind of badgering you. 00:58:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, And what about the Drew Barrymore, the King of Shells? The Drew Barrymore got out. 00:58:50 Speaker 3: The shells, King of Shells? 00:58:54 Speaker 2: Where are the things? 00:58:56 Speaker 3: It's impossible to find a card in that? Oh? 00:58:58 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a terrible and this is for both of us, by the way, Yeah, this is for both of us. This is for like us as a unit. This is us, This is us, and that's podcasting. Okay. King of Shells us gentle and experienced in love making. Oh interesting, The King of Shells tends to prioritize pleasuring his partner like a sexual poseidon. 00:59:22 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:59:22 Speaker 2: He displays a powerful oceanic masculinity that's so cuteic masculinity, an oceanic masculinity that summons the deeps. The King tends to have a deep understanding and a magnetic gaze. Expect eye contact, a slow build, and possibly a sensuous massage at beginning and end. 00:59:50 Speaker 3: And then here's beginning bookends, yeah, bookend massage okay, pre and post okay. 00:59:56 Speaker 2: Interesting And then the take care note is when on balanced, this king can pursue his emotional whims to damaging extremes that. 01:00:05 Speaker 3: Are so damaging all the time. Yeah, go off, King, go off, King of the Ocean. Wow, my heart is pound damn sweating. This is the most erotic this podcast. I mean it will get more erotic after this episode, but this is really a start. 01:00:22 Speaker 2: I wanted to and I wanted to end here. 01:00:27 Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to play a game called Gift you a Curse. I need to number between one and ten from you four. 01:00:32 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:00:33 Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces right now. You can promote, recommend. I don't care what you do. 01:00:39 Speaker 2: I am me. My name is Caitlin. I am a Virgo son, I am a Sagittarius rising, and I am an Aquarius moon. And so what's interesting about that is Sagittarius risings are adventurers and comedians, so that's why. And then my Aquarius moon means that I'm like a little bit of an alien, you know, I'm kind of a bit of a world thinker. And then my Vigo son means that I have anxiety. So that's that's me. That's what I have going on. And I yeah, I am busy and I'm doing one thing, but I legitimately cannot talk about it yet, so I'm just gonna I just gave you my Big three instead, So there we go. 01:01:22 Speaker 3: Everyone find Caitlin somewhere. 01:01:24 Speaker 2: Oh, you can find me on the socials on Instagram. It's at high Caitlin Riley. Okay, are people on TikTok anymore? 01:01:32 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 01:01:33 Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm there on TikTok. Just it's Caitlin. Hello, Caitlyn Hello. And then I don't I don't have Twitter x because the in cells found me and I deleted it. 01:01:43 Speaker 3: Don't be sure I share your email? 01:01:45 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm okay. 01:01:47 Speaker 3: I want one, guess at some point to just give away their email. 01:01:50 Speaker 2: I do have Gmail, though, and I hate it. You hate Gmail? 01:01:53 Speaker 3: What's the other option? 01:01:55 Speaker 2: Yahoo? 01:01:56 Speaker 3: Yeah? 01:01:56 Speaker 2: Is that? 01:01:57 Speaker 3: Can you still get a Yahoo? Account or are they all legacy account. 01:02:00 Speaker 2: Or what is the other option aside from Gmail? 01:02:03 Speaker 3: It's probably some paid thing. It's probably like Apple has a thing that Apple at me dot com. 01:02:08 Speaker 2: I don't do that. I'm not paying for my email. 01:02:10 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Okay, this is how we play gift or a curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why. Then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers, they can lose great. 01:02:23 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:02:23 Speaker 3: This first one is from a listener named Cameron. Gift or a curse When two pieces of a package snack are morphed into one, like goldfish or pretzels, et cetera. 01:02:32 Speaker 2: That's a curse. Why because there's a coagulation going on. But I didn't that I didn't pay for. Okay, So say I'm at a restaurant and I ordered the bag of cheese its and let's say there's a huge just like cheese curd clump where it's just like the dusting of the cheese it. That's a coagulation I did not pay for, and so that is a curse. I feel like you have I would throw that chip away. That's a curse. 01:03:02 Speaker 3: Correct, It shows a lack of care. 01:03:05 Speaker 2: There's a lack of care. What happened at the factory. What happened at the factory? 01:03:10 Speaker 3: What happened to good old hard work, right, good old. 01:03:13 Speaker 2: Fashion, hardy assurance. 01:03:15 Speaker 3: Right? If I see those two, I'm taking it back to the store. Well, first I'm calling and I'm yelling at somewhere, and then I'm taking it back to the store. I'm spitting it out of my mouth. God forbid, I chew it. You get it in time out, you. 01:03:27 Speaker 2: Go to the store, you have it in your mouth, you're talking to someone, you spit it out of your mouth. Look at this and look at this. 01:03:33 Speaker 3: No, I don't have my receipt, right, Yeah, but an absolute curse. Anyone that disagrees is wrong. 01:03:40 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:03:41 Speaker 3: The second one is from unfortunately former producer Stephen Ray Morris. He somehow found his way into my inbox. Give her a curse. An unprompted wall of a text message. 01:03:52 Speaker 2: Oh I love gossip waits. So it's a wall of text that you are receiving from somebody. Is it good or bad? I guess that's what we're finding out. I think it's a gift. Why because I the other day I sent my group chat a fifteen minute voice note and I'm not kidding. 01:04:14 Speaker 3: You have to send like a quiz after to see if they actually listen to and they do, and they did fifteen minutes. Yeah, desperate for a podcast? Right, that was a backdoor pilot. Yeah, one of them says, this is enough, let's let's start a podcast. 01:04:30 Speaker 2: No, I think I do think that it's a gift. I love I love it when someone needs to tell me something. I like being involved. 01:04:39 Speaker 3: Correct, Yay, this is a gift. 01:04:42 Speaker 2: You know. 01:04:43 Speaker 3: It's either going to be a ton of gossip, yeah, or it's going to be the start of some sort of situation in your life with a lot of drama because somebody's mad, someone has something to. 01:04:53 Speaker 2: Say, someone cares to communicate with you. Right, it's actually really romantic, just. 01:05:00 Speaker 3: Scrolling and scrolling through one block of text. I love it. I love it anytime your heart, regardless of what it says, your heart will be racing for a minute because you'll be thinking, oh my god, what why didn't they do this? In four different texts? 01:05:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's reminding you, like, baby, I'm alive. 01:05:16 Speaker 3: Right, and you picture them at their typewriter, typing away, sending that thing off to you. Oh yeah, there's that's dedication to care. That's the opposite of the goldfish situe. The new love letter, right. 01:05:25 Speaker 2: It's the new love letter. Yeah, all right. 01:05:28 Speaker 3: Finally, this is from a listener named Brian Gifter. A curse those little free library boxes that people put up in front of their houses. 01:05:35 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's really performative to me, and I don't like it gift or a curse. It's a curse because if I walk past it, all of a sudden, I have to interact. And if I don't interact, then apparently I don't like people are reading. It's this perform it's a performative thing. It's a performative community thing. It's really cute. I just like part of me is like, oh great, I'm sure you have like homemade granola in your Ketchum. I just I think it's a curse. I think it's like, just get it. Get the book from Amazon. Please. No one is the time. 01:06:10 Speaker 3: God wrong, wrong, this is a gift. 01:06:16 Speaker 2: Amazon's terrible. Don't do that. Go to bookstores. 01:06:19 Speaker 3: No. I spoke to Caitlin before she has a kind of a partnership. She's teamed up with Amazon. 01:06:23 Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever, whatever. Mama's got a payabell. You needed that fifty bucks? Yeah? 01:06:30 Speaker 3: No, these are a gift. Look, have I ever found a book in one that I wanted to read or had any interest ever in taking home with me? No? Okay, but it's a nice little moment where you get to stop and kind of just linger in front of a stranger's home for too long, kind of looking through their things. How often do you get invited to look through strangers things? 01:06:50 Speaker 2: That's a really good point. I don't get invited enough, and I do love looking through strangers things. 01:06:55 Speaker 3: And I'm now thinking this is a new show Stranger's Things. Stranger Maybe it could be like an antique road show style show. Yeah, where they're appraising strangers things, and then we bring in a supernatural element that doesn't pay it. 01:07:08 Speaker 2: Praisers are dressed up as Demi Gorgan's. 01:07:11 Speaker 3: There we go, Yeah, there we go. This is coming together strangers things. 01:07:14 Speaker 2: Strangers things. I like that this is our thing together. This is that we found it Siranda's reach out. This is us pitching strangers things to Ted. Saranda's on his desk. 01:07:26 Speaker 3: We're sitting through Bary Moore style on his Yeah yeah, He's like, when are they going to kiss? 01:07:32 Speaker 2: Yeah? We never kiss. That. That's the hook of the show, the tension. Yeah, well you got. 01:07:38 Speaker 3: Two out of three? 01:07:40 Speaker 2: Are we done? You've I mean you've I wouldn't say failed the game. I don't fail. 01:07:44 Speaker 3: No, you've never. 01:07:45 Speaker 2: Failed, not according to my seven roses in my chariot. 01:07:49 Speaker 3: Please, I think we should answer a listener question. Fantastic people are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. I'm not afraid to give my email away. That's my personal email. I just said no gives it email dot com and they're begging for answers. Will help me answer one of these? 01:08:04 Speaker 2: Of course. 01:08:04 Speaker 3: This is Dear Bridger and guests. I have been invited to the housewarming of two newly married friends. The invite states and I quote your presence is gift enough, which is quickly followed by if you insist on bringing something, please consider a no Skips vinyl album that would remind us of you. First, I mean, don't go, God, don't go. 01:08:24 Speaker 2: Wait wait, So what's the question. 01:08:26 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I just had to kind of I'm collecting myself, you know that kind of shattered me. It seems conflicting to say no gifts but then be asked to bring something. Maybe your guests can relate. Okay, my question is what no skips album should I bring? Do I bring an album that I consider no skips but no they will not enjoy, for example Blink one eighty two's Enema of the State. Or do I select an album that is more in their wheelhouse and likely to be listened to by them down the line, for example, Lady gagaz Born this way, any advice will have you have be appreciated. That's from Colin in Portland. 01:09:02 Speaker 2: Okay, so I hate this couple. 01:09:04 Speaker 3: This couple is such a dread that is. 01:09:07 Speaker 2: So obnoxious because do you know what work one needs to go through to like get in their car find the record store because there's record stores on every block in every city. 01:09:19 Speaker 3: I smell another Amazon promo. 01:09:21 Speaker 2: Coming from yeah yeah, So then you have to then you have to sift through and find, like like by us, a record, but not just any record. 01:09:34 Speaker 3: A perfect to help them, which, by the way, is subjective. So it's a little like now we're putting in this weird critical element where you bring something and we might just think you're stupid or you have bad taste. People have all sorts of different types of no skip out. 01:09:51 Speaker 2: I'm getting them. Fred Durst solo, Help, Yeah, what is it? Start but kiss, start, star butt? 01:09:58 Speaker 3: What is. 01:10:00 Speaker 2: Let's not ellis? What's that album called star? 01:10:04 Speaker 3: It's hot dog flavored Water's. 01:10:07 Speaker 2: On flavored water and this star But so what is it? There's a second part to it. 01:10:12 Speaker 3: This is the Limp Biscuit album, not. 01:10:14 Speaker 2: Chocolate Starfish and the hot dog flavored water. And maybe who's Fred Durst? 01:10:22 Speaker 3: Fred Durst is the He is the vocalist. See, let's call him a singer. He's a singer, singer, singer. 01:10:29 Speaker 2: He's a musician. 01:10:29 Speaker 3: He's a vocalist. 01:10:31 Speaker 2: Wait, so I just said the vocalist of Limp Biscuit, not just Limp Powerhouse vocalist, Powerhouse vocalist, Limp Biscuit, Starfish, Water and the hot Dog star Kiss. 01:10:45 Speaker 3: Ultimately, what you're trying to say is that's a no. 01:10:47 Speaker 2: Skips, a no skips album. So that's the album that I would bring as a fuck you to this couple, or bring an organic orange wine with like a lot of sediment in which I did the other day. I did the other day and the househost was like, oh wow, there's a lot of stuff in it. Huh. I was like, yeah, yeah, there is hot dog flavored water, hot dog flavored water, and the star Butt Kiss. 01:11:11 Speaker 3: That feels like a wine spin off or Limp Biscuit. They should start a wine business. They should kind of spin off of that album. Yeah, that would revive sales, I think so. I bet they're looking for that. 01:11:20 Speaker 2: I mean, that's resurgence. 01:11:22 Speaker 3: I feel like Collin take the Olympiscuit album, Yeah, take a Long, which I'm sure was on vinyl. That feels very Vinyl. 01:11:28 Speaker 2: Ready for me, very Vinyl ready album. 01:11:30 Speaker 3: There's a warmth to that album there is. 01:11:32 Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to I want to, really, I want to feel like I'm in the studio kind of surrounded by the sound of it all. I want to be inside the Biscuit. 01:11:38 Speaker 3: Yes, or take nothing, because they did say don't bring anything. When somebody says don't bring anything, and then the second thing is extremely annoying if I even show up, right. 01:11:50 Speaker 2: But also like so, then so then if you say it's such a specific gift, So if you say don't bring anything, but if you're going to bring someone something, Please bring a vinyl album that perfectly reflects you as a human being. So then they're going to so so here's the thing they're leading the witness, Right, So this couple is like, that's going to make everyone want to bring an album because what a fun little game. So every single person is going to come in the house and be like, okay, so this is the vinyl album I brought, and then the couple is going to be like, oh my god, of course yes. It's going to be this really cute back and forth, and then there's going to be that one person that doesn't bring in a vinyl album, and it's going to be a disappointment. Right, So I would say my answer is don't go. 01:12:35 Speaker 3: I think absolutely don't go. 01:12:36 Speaker 2: Cut them out, Yeah, look at them out of your life because they sound very toxic. 01:12:41 Speaker 3: Can you imagine going to that and being the only person that brings vinyl and I. 01:12:44 Speaker 2: Would do it? Oh, I thought you meant the only person that doesn't bring vinyl. 01:12:48 Speaker 3: Either way, it's horrible, But imagine showing up and you're the only person who did that. The horror, the spine chill. 01:12:54 Speaker 2: And how obnoxious I would have to leave. 01:12:56 Speaker 3: I would put it on a table and just walk out, and the. 01:12:58 Speaker 2: Couple would make it would be a whole It would be the sort of centerpiece of the evening. 01:13:02 Speaker 3: Right of course, of them making fun of. 01:13:04 Speaker 2: You, no, of them being like, uh, oh, Bridger, I can't believe you actually bought an out. Oh my, oh my good uh Fridger, wait okay, hold on, wait butriger come here, wait hold on Bridger, Okay, why this richer? Why this album? 01:13:25 Speaker 3: Then they put it on. 01:13:27 Speaker 2: Yes, so they're gonna make a whole spectacle of it, because that is inherently what they want, right, So they're gonna just hook into you the whole night. Personal hell yeah, personal health. Well, we answered the question perfectly. I think we did. 01:13:41 Speaker 3: You didn't win the game, That's fine. 01:13:43 Speaker 2: I didn't win the game. I was kind of an annoying guest. I was late. I think I talked over you a little bit. You're kind of loud and repetitive. 01:13:53 Speaker 3: You've been a real d plus I've been a real Yeah, I'm unfortunately. 01:13:57 Speaker 2: But that's okay. 01:13:57 Speaker 3: That's why we're able to delete audio. 01:14:00 Speaker 2: Thank god. 01:14:00 Speaker 3: All right, I mean this will we'll save this as like once the podcast is fully over. We'll be like and one special tree. This one. Don't get your hopes up at the episode sucks. Yeah, but you can listen to it because you need more. Yeah, that'll be in a few years and that's fine, fantastic, and you'll be famous by then. Fame, fame. 01:14:18 Speaker 2: It's in my car. 01:14:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll be on floats galore. 01:14:21 Speaker 2: I'll be on floats galore. I've had such a lovely time with you. I've had such a lovely time with you. 01:14:26 Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. 01:14:27 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. 01:14:29 Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over. It's just over. I'm I'm asking everyone to stop listening. Stop, get over it, move on. I love you, goodbye. I said No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said No Gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? I invit? 01:15:11 Speaker 1: Did you hear Gonta made myself perfectly clear. 01:15:18 Speaker 3: But you're a guest to my home. 01:15:22 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no guests. You're our presences, presents enough, and I already had too much stuff. So how do you dare to survey me