1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff. 5 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm prettyer whine girl. 7 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: I'm feeling loose, I'm feeling wild, I'm feeling out of control. 8 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: What is happening. 9 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: I've been playing a lot of a video game called Pocopia. 10 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: This is a video game where you've got to kind 11 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: of just take care of Pokemon. You've got to make 12 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: sure the pokemon are comfortable. I've been for the last 13 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: few days. I have been just making sure all of 14 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: my Pokemon are comfortable. I've barely had a minute for myself. 15 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: I had a confrontation with my neighbor's dog. If I hit, 16 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: attacked and killed me, we probably wouldn't be recording today. 17 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: So that's kind of my life, not getting attacked by 18 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: a dog, taking care of my Pokemon. My retainer is 19 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: being cleaned as we speak. It's at home in the 20 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: glass with the tablet. So I've got one thing to 21 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: look forward to and is do I have any business? 22 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: Let's see. No, I don't think so. I mean, I 23 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: am wondering if if anybody knows if the man who 24 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: does my taxes, if he exists, he's out of touch. Bruce, 25 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: reach out. The deadline's coming and I could use some assistance, 26 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: I think. And Jim has left town. Jim is out 27 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: of town. So you can see that my structure is 28 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: just completely lost. I've I need some I need somebody 29 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: with a strong hand in my life. Essentially, I think 30 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: that that's all we have to talk about. Uh oh, 31 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: somebody mentioned to me recently the gift or a curse 32 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: card game. They're running out of that, so if you 33 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: want one, go to exactly wright store dot com and 34 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: then find your way online. I don't know. Let's get 35 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: into the podcast. Today's guest is wonderful. It's Caitlin Riley. Caitlin, 36 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: welcome to I said no gifts. 37 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. How are you? 38 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm so good just watching you work, beautiful and fascinating. 39 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: What a what a profession. 40 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Our Dick Clark, I am, I'm 41 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: essentially our Dick Clark. Yeah, you really are get to 42 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: do the ball countdown. 43 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: I mean, who cares? 44 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: When's my rock and New Year's Eve? 45 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, but you need to get on there. 46 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: I need a rock in New Year's Eve. 47 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: You really do. 48 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: You were telling me right before we started recording that 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: you've had some alarm trouble. 50 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I have a house guest right now, and so 51 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: I had to go back and fix the alarm. So 52 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: I I was late. I was late. I was like, 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: disrespectfully late. I was like twenty minutes late. 54 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: It was, oh, twenty minutes, I don't think so fifteen. 55 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: But I actually I parked four blocks away accidentally, and 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: then I was walking around an apartment building and I 57 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: was like, I didn't know I was going to Bridger's apartment. 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: Is what is this? And then I realized that I 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: was not at my destination, so I had to go back. 60 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: It was really a series of unfortunate events. 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Did you move the car to our beautiful parking lot 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: or you still no? 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: I parked on the street because I couldn't find the 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: parking lot. I was an absolute tizzy. 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: This is what the alarm will do, though, I know. 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: Did the house guests call and say I set off 67 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: the alarm or did the alarm company call or the police? 68 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: You get a notification and so there's like a ten 69 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: second countdown and then they're like something's wrong. So then 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: you have to go back and fix it. 71 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: God, and what happens? Then then it alerts the police. 72 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: I feel like it alerts. I think it's simply safe. 73 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, sure, I have simply saved this way. Are 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: they a sponsor, we don't know what they are or 75 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: if they're collecting our information. We don't know what they 76 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: are as a company. 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: I think everything's collecting our inform I think you're collecting 78 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: my information. 79 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 3: Or collecting your voice. We're going to do a spinoff 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: of this podcast using the AI. 81 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: With your voice, but it's going to be just like 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: completely red pilled. It's just like my my voice but 83 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: saying the most insane, horrible tin hat. 84 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: Theories, awful things about women, awful. 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: Things about women, awful things about anyone that should have 86 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: rights or any kind of love or compassion of any kind. Yeah. 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: I just watched the Uh there's a new documentary about 88 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: the manosphere. Have you seen this? 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, I was waiting to watch it with 90 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: my husband lol, But then I watched it myself because 91 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: women's rights. 92 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: Right. You should have waited for your god. 93 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: I should have waited for my god, your God. But 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: it is fascinating that guy does a really good documentary. 95 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting the way he's able to get 96 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 3: into these people's world and basically like tell them they're idiots, 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: and they keep him around anyway he's doing it. 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, he creates this like safe space for 99 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: them to just let their freak flag fly in front 100 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: of a camera. 101 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: But he is saying things to them. But he tells 102 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: one guy he needs to work on his calves. 103 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, well, you don't say that to a 104 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: straight man. 105 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, and he doesn't. Yeah, So I wonder 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 3: if there's like it's like, is this sort of like 107 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: an uncle energy where you like bring them in and 108 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: they're like able to ras you a little bit, but 109 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: you keep them around. Like, how are they so open 110 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: with this guy? 111 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: Well? Is he is he British or Australian? I think 112 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: he's British? Okay, so I feel like any person that's 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: British kind of gets like a social free pass. Yeah, 114 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, like for some reason, I 115 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: trust you, right, I imagine you're really smarter than me. Yeah, 116 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: you sound really smart, and I feel like you're just 117 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: kind of here to observed and. 118 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: Think that one influencer's mom showing up at the end 119 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: was what's going on with her? Yeah, what's going on 120 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: with any of these horrible fears? 121 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: God, it's really really disturbing. It's really disturbing. 122 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I was obviously upset not to be invited on. 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: Of course, as key member, you're very much. 124 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: A part of the manosphere. 125 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: I would say, a cornerstone you. 126 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're a founding father for sure of 127 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: that of that ILK right. 128 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. It feels like just an entirely different universe, 129 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: and like these people are unbelievably famous and I've never 130 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: seen or heard of them. 131 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean my nephew is seventeen and I know, 132 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: and so he's sort of like, I'm not a Republican, 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: but I'm also not a Democrat, which is I think, Well, 134 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't are we talking politics. 135 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: On your foot, We're talking seventeen year old politics. 136 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: We're talking seventeen year old politics. Where he said that, 137 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: and I was like, for a seventeen year old, I 138 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: feel like that's a red flags. 139 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: Huge as a teenager. 140 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, so, but so what are you? 141 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: You know? And I think that he dabbles in this 142 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: world a little bit. And there's this new wave of 143 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: gen zers or I don't need is it Jen Alpha? 144 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: Now? Where are Jen Alpha is really coming up with? 145 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: I saw a headline that was like twenty five percent 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: of jen Alpha thinks that the woman should stay at. 147 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: Home or something. And so that's the thing. He wants 148 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: to get married super young. He wants to have like 149 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: six kids. What he wants his wife to be a 150 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: stay at home mot Like, I'm a little worried. You're 151 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: a little scared. I don't really know what's going on. 152 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like in this inside a teenager's mind, thinking that 153 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: in that way just doesn't It doesn't seem at all 154 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: familiar to me. 155 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're I think we're going a little 156 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: they're very the young the youngins are very conservative. 157 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: But something that realized that's going to get in the 158 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: way of their gaming. You got six kids, you're not 159 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: going to be able to get on Twitch. 160 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. They all to be 161 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: twitch streamers, right. 162 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: So I don't these things don't feel compatible to me. Yeah, 163 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: I mean maybe that's the wife having to clean the 164 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: house while you said on twitch. 165 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: Right, well, because man can play game, wife can clean kitchen, right, 166 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: you know, the natural order, the natural order of things. 167 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: Instead of hunting, we're gaming there, so they're hunting. But 168 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 2: in the game. 169 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: You know, gamers don't come for me. I'm playing Pokemon. 170 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned that I am. I'm a gamer myself. 171 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: We're all gamers. 172 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: We're all gamers at heart. Come on, wait, so is 173 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: this like a game on your phone or what. 174 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: Is a game on my switch? 175 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: It's called Pocopia. Okay, so I have a switch, but 176 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: I never charge it and I and I forget about 177 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: it will cause problems for you. 178 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: It's kind of like I never played did you ever 179 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: play Animal Crossing? 180 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: I got really bored. 181 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm bored by that as well. People were wild 182 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: about it. 183 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: But people tell me COVID Yeah, I know, Elijah Wood 184 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: was a big Animals player from what I remember. 185 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean almost everyone and I very alienated because 186 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: I found it boring. 187 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: It's boring. 188 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: This is kind of like that, but it's not boring 189 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: because you are concerned about everyone's comfort and if you 190 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: care about if you're if you're an mpath like. 191 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: Me, okay, you will be just like someone with trauma. 192 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: With trauma, you'll be like, what what does Bulbasor need? 193 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: Right now? What does Bulbasor need? Is there fighting? 194 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: There's no fighting yet? 195 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I need fighting. 196 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 3: Oh you need to pit them. You need the kind 197 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: of dog fighting aspect of it. 198 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: I need fighting, but it needs to be magical. Right. So, 199 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: I about two years ago got really unhealthily obsessed with 200 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: Hogwarts legacy. 201 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: Oh sure, and this is do you like, are you 202 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: Harry Potter in this or your another wizard? 203 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: So your it's like one hundred and twenty five years 204 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: before the story of Harry Potter started, right. So you're 205 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: a student at Hogwarts, right, and they sort you in 206 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: a house, right, and it's a full open world, right, 207 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: and there are main quests, there are side quests, but 208 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: you are a wizard. Uh huh. And it's really incredible. 209 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: I imagine it kind of takes over your life. 210 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: It does. I played. I think I logged one hundred 211 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: and twenty seven hours in a month. Oh my god. 212 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the end game in this thing? 213 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: You just you you finish it? So then After that, 214 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: I moved on to what am I playing right now? 215 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: Star Wars Outlaws or basically you're this female character named 216 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: Kves but she's essentially Han solo and you go on 217 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: a lot of crazy Well I realized that it has 218 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: to be like open world adventure based and it has 219 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: to be based off of a movie, like like my 220 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: husband was like, you should play Skyrim, and I was like, no, 221 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: that's stupid, But it's essentially the same thing. 222 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: That's also like a wizard a thing. 223 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: I think. I like wizards, right, I love Wizards. 224 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously there's the complication of jk Rowling 225 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: at this point of. 226 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: Course, so that that is the issue that I had 227 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: found where sort of my soul is like, I feel 228 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: like I shouldn't be doing this. 229 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: We're all kind of trapped. We should, I mean, but 230 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: we should always you know, just note jk Rowling each 231 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: shit sort of situation die. But the wonderful world of 232 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: wizarding it's very complicated. 233 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: What wizard I mean, it's not the right I don't 234 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: think she got a paycheck from this. 235 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, unfortunately, I think she makes a paycheck 236 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: from probably like every book sale at this point. This 237 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: woman is just pure evil and. 238 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's awful. 239 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: I just kind of I actually feel like evil is cool. 240 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: She's like a loser, loser, I mean imagine, like so 241 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: like if she died tomorrow, the only thing that we'll 242 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: be talking about is God, she fucking sucked. Like, imagine 243 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: accomplishing the most incredible thing, like creating this magical world 244 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: renowned series of Harry Potter and then failing so hard 245 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: as a human being that if you died tomorrow, everyone's like, yeah, wow, 246 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: that was the most loser person truly. Can you imagine? 247 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: She spends all her day online? 248 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: Yes, get a live honey, get a light. Well, she 249 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: has more money than gods, I know, but. 250 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: Like we got to do something. 251 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: In Costa Rica and get offline. What is wrong? 252 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: Find one hobby? 253 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: Find start needle stitching? 254 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: Is that what it's called needle stitching? That might be 255 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: a needle needle point stitching, cross stitching, needle points. These 256 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,119 Speaker 3: are separate disciplines and their third one crochet. 257 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: Crochet is really fun. 258 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: Okay, see, look at us. We're thinking of ideas for 259 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: this lady. 260 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: We're trying to help her. 261 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: It's also the sort of thing where it's like change 262 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: your mind and suddenly you're the coolest person alive. 263 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 264 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: People are like, wow, there's someone who who actually figured 265 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: it out. Yeah, and said she's online, she's on Twitter. 266 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: Twitter, Just lose it X. 267 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: Actually, thank you, thank you for showing it respect deserves. 268 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, give it the respect it deserves. It's X. Now. 269 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: I actually got bullied off of X because I made 270 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: a joke, and the joke was Emma Stone could do 271 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: the Joker, but Joaquin Phoenix could never do La La Land. 272 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Wow you were I mean, just throwing yourself 273 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: out there to be devoured. 274 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the Joker had come out. And respectfully, 275 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: I've never hated a movie more. It's so bad. I've 276 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: never hated a movie more. And then the second one 277 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: was like, oh wow, it's even worse. Caitlin, But I 278 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: feel like I can't say those things otherwise I'm not 279 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: going to get. 280 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to say something controversial. What I didn't mind 281 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: Joker two. Okay, Look, I'm willing to defend myself. Is 282 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: it because the water on my side, by. 283 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: The way, Okay, and I do remember John Water's coming 284 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: out validated my FEELIX Okay, and so I do remember 285 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: that happening, and I remember thinking, h John Waters sees 286 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: something here, so I think I think it was like 287 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: a boomerang where the Joker too was so like what 288 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: the fuck crazy, right, that it boomeranged back around and 289 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: then it was like expert camp. 290 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean it was like I mean, in so 291 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: many ways, it was like it made all of the 292 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: people who liked the original Bad One mad, yes, which 293 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: that alone is like this feels good. This feels good 294 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: that those people are mad, and it was just weird 295 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: and strangely. First one was just kind of a rip 296 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: off of Taxi Driver. The second one was like what 297 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: am I looking at? Right? It was really I mean, 298 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: there was a courtroom sequence that was like seven hours long. 299 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: Of course that was tough, but I went in with 300 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: such low expectations that my friend and I looked at 301 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: each other after and we were like, that wasn't that bad? 302 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: And then John Waters comes along and says it was 303 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: one of his favorite movies of the year, and I thought, Okay, 304 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: maybe they did something here. 305 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: You do have a very good point. I might have 306 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: to give it a rewatch in the background while I'm 307 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: doing laundry. 308 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: I hate to defend anything Joker men, the Joker, any 309 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: of these things. 310 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: But I mean, at the end of the day, everyone's 311 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: making art, right, and that's okay, and that's good and 312 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: art is good and art's important, right. 313 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: And it was a big reveal of Connor's story. Wait, 314 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: you know he's at the end of that movie. I 315 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: mean he's throughout the movie and he's like the big 316 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: shocking end of the movie. 317 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: I don't remember. I only watched bits and pieces. 318 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: People are gonna, look, there's gonna be a retrospect, but. 319 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: That's on me because I'm sitting here saying I hate 320 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: a movie that I didn't watch all of it. 321 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: Okay, interesting, So now this is your giving fuel to 322 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: the manisphere. Right, You're gonna be bullied off of this podcast, right. No, 323 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: he's at the end of the movie. Spoiler he kills 324 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: Woking Phoenix. 325 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: That was Connor's story. 326 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: Yes, he's great. 327 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: It's so funny. Before I watched Heated Rivalry, Tod just 328 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: come out. I was at an event. 329 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: You can kind of say that about literally anything in 330 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: your life. 331 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at an event. 332 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: You're constantly at the market, definite. 333 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: I was at a pop up event. I was buying groceries, 334 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: but I was at an event and Connor's story walks Connor. 335 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna call him Connor Stories because I think that's funnier. 336 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: I call I think I've done that by mistake. 337 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he walked past me and he was like, 338 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: I love you. You're the funniest person alive. And I 339 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: was like, oh, thank you. And I was like, Oh, 340 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: that's that's the Russian guy from he did Rivalry. The 341 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: next day I watched it. It took over my life 342 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: and my soul and I must, I must find him again. 343 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: You will, because now I love him. 344 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: And he seems like a genuinely nice person. Yeah, doesn't 345 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: great Russian, Great Russian. 346 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: And let's not forget Hudson Williams. Let's not forget Hutson Williams. Girl, 347 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: he does a great job. He was incredible, called them 348 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: the boys. 349 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: We don't want to laugh. 350 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: We love Hudson Williams. He's a Kutie Batiti. 351 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: He just doesn't do a Russian accent or Russian right. 352 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: And that's an impressive thing. I kept saying, trying to 353 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: be smart through the first two episodes to my boyfriend, Oh, 354 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: this is all just really high tech cig with the 355 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: Russian they've they've done some sort of dubbing. 356 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: That can't possibly really think that? Yeah? 357 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: I was like, k I was just like, this feels 358 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: so convincing. How could he possibly as a stupid person. 359 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 3: I was just like, there's no way, and as kind 360 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,239 Speaker 3: of an undisciplined person who would never possibly learn how 361 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: to do. 362 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: That, and I would neither. 363 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: I was like, well, there's just no way unless his 364 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: parents are Russian. But they're not. He I guess he's 365 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: just that good. 366 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: I thought he was Russian. Russian. But then I was like, 367 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: can Russians act? Oh? 368 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: Interesting? 369 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: You know that's the big question? Can they act? I 370 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think they can act like that. 371 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: If I don't know, if that one Russian has ever 372 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: been able to act? 373 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: Name a Russian. Give me a proof. Name a Russian 374 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: who can act. 375 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: I can't think of one. 376 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: I can't think of one. 377 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 3: If I can't think of one, it's obviously true. 378 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: Well, one of my best friends is like full blow Russian. 379 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: She has an incredible actress that's okay. 380 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: Interesting, Yet you're not willing to name her. 381 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: She will be unnamed. She will be unnamed. 382 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: You're not her publicist, you're her friends. 383 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to get paid if I'm 384 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: gonna if I'm gonna name her. 385 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, speaking of shocking things and people 386 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: being stupid, I was looking forward to having you here 387 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: on the podcast. 388 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: To thank you so much. I was looking forward to 389 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: being here. I'm such a fan of the pot thank you. 390 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: I mean, well, look, I guess that may or may 391 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: not be true because the podcast is called I said 392 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: no Gifts. 393 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: Which I love. I love that title and I love 394 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: the continess of it, and I love that you are 395 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: just sort of adorned like I feel very like I 396 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: should have done I should have done that. 397 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: Oh, are you a little jealous of all the things. 398 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous. I kind of feel like I 399 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: should have put a little more ooph in my gift 400 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: that I brontersting. 401 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: So you did bring a gift. 402 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: I did bring a gift. I did. 403 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: I did notice you. You know, you should have really late. 404 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: That was rude. And then I saw you holding a 405 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: gift that was rude because you strike right. Yeah, I 406 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: don't know what the third strike will be. 407 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 2: But I haven't said anything offensive. 408 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: No, nothing offensive okay yet not yet. 409 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 2: Thank God. We're not having wine. 410 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: It's wine o'clock. Well, we get into the gift here. 411 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: I think that we should. It's not wrapped. 412 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 3: I think maybe that's wrapped. Okay, Okay, I would say 413 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: it's beautifully wrapped. It's in kind of this gorgeous white sweater. 414 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: It's in this gorgeous white sweater that I picked up 415 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: in London, and it is it is meant to wrap gifts. 416 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: Okay, of course this is a gift sweater. 417 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: Then you unwrap it. 418 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: Let me unwrap this, okay, okay, let's see if we 419 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 3: can get can we get sweater noise on the podcast? 420 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: Swetter noise, m soft? Okay, we're unwrapping. 421 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: Oh what could it be? It's erotic terror? Oh my god. 422 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 3: This is I've I've said this before. This is an 423 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: erotic podcast. 424 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: And that is how I felt coming here, is that this. 425 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: Is erotic ultimately erotic. Yeah, an erotic Manisphere podcast. 426 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: An erotic Manisphere podcast where there are no Russians in 427 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: sights because Russians cannot act right. 428 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: There are a few rules and that's kind of what 429 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: we build this on. Why did you bring me erotic Taro? 430 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: Because I know you really, really well, I've known you 431 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: for years, right, And I just kind of feel like 432 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: that that is so you. It's so you. And do 433 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: you want to know a rule? If you want to 434 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: have a tarot deck in your house, you should not 435 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: go out and buy yourself a tarot deck. You should 436 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: use a tarot deck that was gifted to you. 437 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: Is that true? 438 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: Yes, why it's I don't know, some witch made it up. 439 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like maybe some sort of bad someone 440 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: decided at some point that's bad life actually. 441 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: Or maybe just like a tarot store that was like 442 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: you should come in and just buy a bunch of decks, fhear, friends, 443 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: because that's the rule. So I feel like every house 444 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: should have a tarot deck and it should be gifted. 445 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: I think that's nice. 446 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: And I saw that and I thought it was really beautiful, 447 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, because I've known you. 448 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: Four years a decade at this, pat, Yeah. 449 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: Our parents are each other's parents, and our friends are 450 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: each other's friends. 451 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: And right, our parents are each other's parents. Everyone knows that. 452 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: Everyone knows that whatever that means. 453 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: We know exactly what that means. Of course, I don't 454 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 3: even need to think about. 455 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're you're my bridger and I'm your right. 456 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we've just been doing this for so long. 457 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: Very close, very close, and you've given me so many 458 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: things over the years. 459 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 2: I have side of what's your favorite thing I've given you? 460 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 3: Well, it was the bike. 461 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: The bike. 462 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: You remember the bike? 463 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: The bike, Yes, the baby blue bike. 464 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: It's in the parking lot right now. 465 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: Oh you're still using. 466 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: I wrote it to Burbank from where Highland Park. And 467 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: that is a ride, right And look, not a drop 468 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: of sweat on. 469 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: Me, not a drop because it's glides. 470 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: Because it glides, and I've been riding it for years. 471 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: So you know, I'm glad. 472 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm so glad. That makes me. I'm so glad. 473 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: I know you're a good gift giver. I have wondered 474 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: when will you bring erotic element into gifting? 475 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: Should you pull a card? Of course? Okay, let's see here. 476 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 3: Do are you familiar with what each card means? 477 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: Sort of? But also, my house guest did like an 478 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: hour long taro reading on me last night. 479 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: Wow. 480 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of just like something is energetically happening 481 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: within me right now. But I think in there is 482 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: probably a little booklet that'll help us along, that'll help 483 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: us along I want. 484 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: To read the back it says, be guided by your desire. Okay, 485 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: way ahead of you. Deepen your personal Tarot journey with 486 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: a focus on love and pleasure, pleasure. This fully illustrated 487 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: seventy eight card tarot deck comes with an extensive booklet 488 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: guiding you through ways of reading the cards to help 489 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: you explore intimate possibilities unlock your erotic potential. I'm finally 490 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: ready to unlock my erotic potential. 491 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think it's so you. It really is 492 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: so you. 493 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: You know, of course, of course, Okay, let's oh, I 494 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: like how that sounds. 495 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: It's nice. It's like an Apple box. 496 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a. 497 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: Box that you would get from the Apple store. 498 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: Not an apple designed in Coopertino. Ye. 499 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right, this could. 500 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: Be an Apple product. Okay, look at how sixy? Wow 501 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: that's a very sixy? What is this going to lead to? 502 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: This? H The podcast is getting steamy? Should I Should 503 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: I shuffle the cards? Yeah? 504 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: Shuffle? Let's see, Yeah, because I'm gonna pull it for you. 505 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: So you need to shuffle it. 506 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: You need You're going to be for you? 507 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you so I should shuffle right? So 508 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: I can imbue it with my energy. 509 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels right. 510 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm telling you. 511 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: That's no. I'm going to pull for you. You shuffle 512 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: and I'm going to pull for you. Those are the rules. 513 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: And I mean, I think what the trouble I'm having 514 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: right now is when the person pulls for so you 515 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: pull for me, that means the card will be about me. 516 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: Huh. 517 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so I need to touch the cards right now 518 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: and then when I pull for you. 519 00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: But i'm the interpreter. 520 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 3: Right when it's your turn to get your taro red, 521 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: you'll you will touch the car, sure, and then I 522 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: will pull for you. 523 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: Or we can also just do whatever the fun we want. 524 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: No, no, this is serious. This is erotic. 525 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: This is serious. This is erotic. 526 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 3: This is going to lead to me unlocking my potential. 527 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: And I'm not going to screw around. Okay, I did 528 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: a I can't shove a car. I'm no dealer. Okay, 529 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: so there we go. And okay, so. 530 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: Now so now you pull. Okay, so now energetically pick 531 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: a card. Okay, here we go. 532 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: So now I flipped you flip it. We're so mad 533 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: about this. 534 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: So this is the three of candles. Okay, that's erotic. Okay, 535 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: what is the three of candles? 536 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: Okay? Look at that? Let me see that car. 537 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: Look look at this card. Okay, three of candles. 538 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: I will say, it's a you know, it's like a 539 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: red candelabra with some pink melting candles of candles. I 540 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: don't think I've ever seen a three of candles in 541 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: another deck. So are they like? 542 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: These are kind of like each deck is sort of 543 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: like it's jelly beans beans and the four of gumdocs. 544 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: You know, they're kind of I think candles is maybe 545 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: swords swords, right, yeah, okay, three of candles Okay, so 546 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: the candles which is actually supposed to be wands in 547 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: a classic terrale. 548 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: Oh okay. 549 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: Spontaneity okay, fast action, fast action, that's erotic. 550 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: Passion, passion, okay, power power. 551 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: Oh, adrenaline, oh life force, creative fuel and urges inspired work, 552 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: stroke of genius. And this is the three of candles. 553 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: Stay determined to remain adventurous. Take your ideas for a walk. 554 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: Take your ideas for a walk, seek outside influences. A 555 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: third component may further ignite. 556 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: Oh in right, go on a walk and find a third. 557 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: And then there's a little a subcomment. Don't be nonchalant 558 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: about any collaborations proposed to you. Make sure all parties 559 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: are comfortable going forward. What am I. 560 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: Supposed to do with that information? And also what does 561 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 3: that leave for the rest of the cards? I feel 562 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 3: like it covered every corner of the erotic world. 563 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: Right, it's more erotic than that, right? 564 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's have you imbue the cards with your energy. 565 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 3: Pull for you or you pull for again. My apologies 566 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 3: to the new age community. Crystal shop owners are mad, 567 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: but you know. 568 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: This is really impossible to shuffle. 569 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: They're very difficult. Anytime I have to I'm in charge 570 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: of shuffling cards, I embarrass myself. 571 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: I feel again, this is awful math class. Yeah, I 572 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: was bad at math in school. I was diagnosed with ADHD. 573 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: Did they make you do cards? 574 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: No, they just gave me like extensive testing and then 575 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: started talking to me like I couldn't hear. So that 576 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 2: was my high school experience. Caitlin, are you doing okay? 577 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 2: This is the lesson making sense to you? Yep. I'm 578 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: sexually active and I smoke clothes cigarettes. I'm doing good anyway, 579 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: Just me trauma dumping on you. 580 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I had give it and then you 581 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: I think I'm supposed to be like bop bop bop. 582 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: But let's we have to, you know, eye for an eye, 583 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: so you just pull one. We've got to have kind 584 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 3: of a one for one situation. 585 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: Okay, mine is the chariot. 586 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 3: The chariot, and look at describe what's happening on that 587 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: chariot card. 588 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: This card, it looks like it looks like a gay 589 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: Pride parade. 590 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 3: It looks like gay Mad Max. 591 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: It looks like gay Mad Max is exactly what it 592 00:27:59,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: looks like. 593 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: They're like, there's a car. There's a biker gang. 594 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way to Long Beach. 595 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: They're obvious, they're headed south and there are four people 596 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: in a car, three who are standing. 597 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is really unsafe, right, And I'm not about 598 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: like non safety on the road. No, No, I don't 599 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: like that. Seat belts, seatbelts please. 600 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: We went through a large period of human history where 601 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 3: a seatbelt was optional, which is interesting. 602 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: Yes, like like, yeah, what was it that the seventies live? 603 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm so young? What was the seventies? 604 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: Like, you're afraid people are going to think you were 605 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: born in nineteen forty. 606 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm online a lot and people people think 607 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm like someone's grandmother. 608 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: Who is this lady? She eighty years old? 609 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: What are you still doing on TikTok? Let me read. 610 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think for you. 611 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: What is it the chariot? Let me try and find 612 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: it for you. I think it's I think it's at 613 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: the front. 614 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: Okay, the Empress, the emperor, Okay, let's see the fool. 615 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: I feel like you don't like my gift. 616 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: I love this, Actually, what do you like about it? 617 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I love how sexy it is. I love 618 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: how steamy it is. I love that it's just kind 619 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: of bringing a new heat. 620 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 2: To the park, front, to the front. I went all 621 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: the way to the. 622 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: Front the chariots chery. 623 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: Here we go. 624 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: This says your keywords are will to succeed. This is 625 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: a less success or less sexy thing already. Confidence. 626 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: Vehicles. I love the way you say vehicles vestibules. 627 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: How would you say vehicle vestible? 628 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: A moving entity? Vehicle, vehicle. 629 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: The hicless the hicless graduation, adolescent cockiness what okay? Landing 630 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: on one's feet upstarts and startups. That feels like a CBS. 631 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: I kind of feel like this was written by. 632 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: Ai Fame probably was Let's fame in the Yes, we 633 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: like this for you and championing which you didn't do 634 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: for your Russian French. 635 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Her career is falling apart. 636 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: Oh, right, image, it's somebody's first pride parade. Rainbows around ah, 637 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: my first pride parade. 638 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: Okay. 639 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: This is the feeling of triumph when you set yourself 640 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: a goal and achieved it for all to see. This 641 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: is a glorious moment of exhilaration onlookers acknowledge and admire you. 642 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: Bravery and determination have paid off. Though this is only 643 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: the first step in a longer journey, so now you 644 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: need some advice. This is often a card to first experiences. 645 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: Make up your mind to do something and then carry 646 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: it out, despite uncertainty and unsteadiness in the early stages. 647 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: Don't dwell on the details. Keep your courage up and 648 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: you will win. Take care. You won't get what you 649 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: want unless you make it decisive effort. Enjoy your victory 650 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: for a while, but then you'll need a fresh angle. 651 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: You can't stick to the same approach. This is all 652 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: over the place. Consider sharing a need to overcome internal conflicts. 653 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: The whiplash of what you're supposed to be doing. 654 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: What is happening? I don't even know what this means? 655 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: What does this mean? 656 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: I'm getting motion sickness. 657 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: I hate this card. 658 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: The only thing that works here is fame. 659 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: So all I heard was fame. 660 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: You got stars in your eyes. 661 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: Fame and that people admire me. And then also to what. 662 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: To do a bunch of it's going to require work 663 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 3: that doesn't happen, and I don't know that that's going 664 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: to be precise. No, you strike me as a very 665 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: lazy person. There's zero sex in this God, you're at 666 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: your first Pride parade. You're the dork. 667 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: Maybe it's telling me that I'm going to be in 668 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: La Pride Parade this year. 669 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 3: So interesting on a float? 670 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: I would love fame, fame. Interesting. Have you been to 671 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: a Pride parade before? Never? 672 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so this. 673 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: Is actually protest. No, I've been too many. You've driven 674 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: by home. I'm an ally Bridger, Bridger, Bridger, you're an ally. 675 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: You're an ally? Yeah, I you know the moment I 676 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: met you through my parents years and years ago, when 677 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: my parents introduced me to your parents, they said, our daughter, 678 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: you got to meet the scale she's an ally. She 679 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: wasn't before it was bad. 680 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: I was sort of an I was sort of like, 681 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: you know, playing pretend to my dollhouse, and like I 682 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: didn't want to be a doctor. I didn't want to 683 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: be a marine biologist. I didn't want to be an actress. 684 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to be an ally. Right, That's what I 685 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: That's what I was pretending to be. You were pretending, Yeah, 686 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: what do you want to be? When you grew up 687 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: an ally? Right? 688 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: So then you went mask off and you were not 689 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: an ally for that. You know, those five years or so. 690 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: That was a dark time. 691 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: That was a dark time. But we're glad to have 692 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: you back on our team. 693 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: Thank you. 694 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: And now you're meeting Connor story at events. I know 695 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: you're kind of and you're gonna be on a float. 696 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on a float, probably of your own design. 697 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, could you just show up? 698 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: You could probably just design a float and show up 699 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: at a parade. 700 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of feel like, hey, guys, I've been 701 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: working on this for a while. It's made of flowers, 702 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: and can I just roll through? 703 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: Right? 704 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: I feel like it is a really intricate process though, But. 705 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you do all the work for that, 706 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: and you show up and they don't let you get 707 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: in the parade. What are we doing? Yeah? 708 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: What are parade's for? I also kind of I have 709 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: a sneaking suspicion that float people are really. 710 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: Obnoxious, really normal. 711 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh, what does your cousin do? She builds floats, 712 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: she wants stop fucking talking about it. 713 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: How do you get into the float biz? 714 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: How do you get into the float bit? 715 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: How do you break in? 716 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 717 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: You probably get big on TikTok. 718 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, big on TikTok. You get like viral for like 719 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: your cat or something. Then all of a sudden you're 720 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: sort of like parlayed into the float to the float, 721 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you're like, you know, 722 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: at the red carpet at the vanity for Oscar party, 723 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: asking you know, people questions just because that question that 724 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: is the pipeline. 725 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: Smart questions, incisive questions. 726 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: I was a float influencer and now I'm at the. 727 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: Met Yeah, it's the natural paths the natural. That's journalism, 728 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 3: that's journalism, that's journalism, that's integrity. Yeah, what sort of 729 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 3: tarot cards do you have at home? 730 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 2: I have a couple. I have one that's like a 731 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: little pocket tarot book called The Wild Unknown. Oh, I 732 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: like that where it's like really cool pictures. And then 733 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: I was given another tarot deck that I think is Russian. 734 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you brought a Russian theme and. 735 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: That was Those were both gifted to me. 736 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 3: You've never purchased I purchased this one for yourself. 737 00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 738 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: No, you're a real natural teraro y person. 739 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: I just like I like witchy stuff sometimes. You know, 740 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: that's because because I don't have a good foundation, that's. 741 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: Why you're kind of out of control. 742 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little emotionally out of control, So I 743 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: like terot cards. 744 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: I would describe you first as lost. 745 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: I'm a little lost. I have my astrological sig tattooed 746 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: on my wrist that I'm currently in the process of 747 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: trying to get rid of. 748 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: Is that true? 749 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I see it? Yeah? So it's speckily because 750 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: I actually started the process of getting it removed at 751 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: Laser Away, but I had a very unfortunate experience there, 752 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: so I didn't I didn't finish the process. 753 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 3: Well, this is an unfortunate experience at Laser Way it's. 754 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: Just a laser away. 755 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 3: Is that what it's called. Yes, it sounds like a 756 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 3: spinoff of massage envy or something. 757 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, God I miss massage envy. But no. I 758 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: went in and there's kind of like they call you 759 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: like hey, babe or haym like came on, my things 760 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: are coming in, and I just like call me, ma'am. 761 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 3: This is a medical proceedure. 762 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: This is a medical procedure. Call me by my full 763 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: government name. 764 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: We're not on bean bags, right, And. 765 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: I went in one of the rooms and I'm sitting 766 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 2: there and the practitioner that walked in, uh, at one 767 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 2: point like dropped the machine, was like, oh sorry, I'm 768 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: just like all over the place today, and then dropped 769 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: the glasses on the ground that she was supposed to 770 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: put on my face. And then I think I was 771 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: trying to be like kind and charming. So I was like, 772 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: oh god, it's my first time a little I'm a 773 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: little nervous. You know, I've also told this story in 774 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: another podcast. 775 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll get those removed, okay. 776 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: But so she was about to take a laser to 777 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: my skin, right, it is a it is a procedure. 778 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: So she was about to take the laser to my skin, 779 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: but instead she grabs my arm, shakes it and goes 780 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 2: So then I also started screaming. I look at her, 781 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: I go, what what? She cocks her head back, starts 782 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: laughing hysterically and goes, I'm just fucking with you, girl. 783 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: And like I partly appreciated the gumption, like I was like, yes, yes, right, 784 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,479 Speaker 2: like you're my kind of girl. But then the other 785 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: half of me is like this is not good at all. 786 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: And then she did it and she was like, ah fuck, 787 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: I feel like it didn't do a lot. Like I 788 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: just felt it was just not. 789 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 3: Like in this moment, you're like, I'm sorry, this isn't 790 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 3: working for me. 791 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then so then I left and then I 792 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: had another I had another appointment like six weeks later. 793 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: So I went to that other appointment, same thing. It 794 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: was just like kind of chaos. The machine wasn't working, 795 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 2: and the girl that was doing me, she's like, I mean, 796 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: do you want to use this machine? And I was like, 797 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: you tell the other what's going on. So then I 798 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: got so it's really expensive, and I got mad and 799 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 2: then I complained. So then Laser Away Customer Service called 800 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 2: me to sort of talk about the incident, and I 801 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: was like, listen, I know that these girls are working 802 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 2: really here like I, but it was just it was 803 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: not good. I was like, also, the room was like 804 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: really dirty and wasn't prepped for a patient. The customer 805 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: service person I'm talking to you goes dirty? What do 806 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: you mean dirty? Do you have pictures giving me attitude 807 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: like I'm in a sorority? It was so weird. And 808 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 2: then I posted it on Instagram and then they finally 809 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: refunded me because I. 810 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 3: Posted on it. Right, you eventually kind of have to 811 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 3: blackmail them. 812 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: I blackmailed them on Instagram where I was like I 813 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: had such a bad experience there, and then they finally you. 814 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 3: Can't privately complain anymore. Private complaints do very little. 815 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: And I have to say I do love complaining when 816 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 2: it's warranted, of course, yeah, I really do love it. 817 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: Well, it improves whatever the problem is. Eventually somebody is 818 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 3: told yeah, and then you might get a free coupon. 819 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 3: And I love a free I love complaining in coupon. 820 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 3: So what a perfect combination. So what was the end 821 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 3: result that you got your money back? 822 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: I got my full money back, and they were like, 823 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 2: let's let's start over. And I was like, you're never 824 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: touching me again, like. 825 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 3: It's a marriage. 826 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, like someone else. It was just so weird because 827 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 2: it was like, no, I think that this is just 828 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: like a poorly run business and you're hiring a bunch 829 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 2: of people that you're you're not training, so it's like 830 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: kind of not their fault, it's like management's fault whatever. 831 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about anything. 832 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: Is there another laser place you can turn to? 833 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. And so I have this specky, stupid tattoo. 834 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 3: When did you get it? 835 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: I got it when I was twenty three after a 836 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 2: really bad breakup. Oh sure, I had cut my hair. 837 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 2: I started I started bleaching it like white. Okay. I 838 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: I was wearing a cutoff. 839 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 3: T shirts very run, Lola Run. 840 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I was wearing cutoff T shirts like all my 841 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: T shirts didn't have sleeves because that was sort of 842 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 2: like the indie luck. In twenty thirteen, I was going 843 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: to Harvard and Stone every night. Okay, I was doing improv. 844 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: That's when I started doing improv. And I was like, 845 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 2: I'm going to spend time in your life. Yeah, And 846 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 2: I was like I'm going to drive out to duarte 847 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 2: and I'm going to get a tattoo, and that's exactly 848 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: what I did. 849 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: I think it's so inoffensive. I feel like, what just 850 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 3: keep it well. 851 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: Some people think that it's the word me. Oh interesting, 852 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 2: and then some people think that it's like a Christian 853 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: emblem the right yeah, and then some people think it's 854 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: another astrological sign that it isn't. So like, no one 855 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 2: really knows what the fuck this is. 856 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 3: Which sign is it? It's Virgo. 857 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: It looks exactly like Scorpio, except a little different. 858 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 3: I wonder if you I wouldn't have known that was 859 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: an astrological sign. I wonder what my guests would have been. 860 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 3: I think I would have been like, it's MP. Yeah. 861 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 2: I've been like, what are the who is MP? To you? Also, 862 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: this was supposed to be a matching best friend tattoo 863 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: with my best friend, and so I got the tattoo 864 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 2: first and it was three times bigger than i'd ask 865 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 2: And so she's watching it happened. She's like, wow, that's 866 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: really big, and then she got it done in a 867 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 2: different place right here. Oh it looks like a mole. 868 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 2: So I got kind of dupped. 869 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 3: I would rather have a tattoo than a weird mole 870 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 3: on my finger. 871 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: I'd rather have a weird mole on my fing You'd. 872 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 3: Rather have a that's what you think. But then you're 873 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 3: prepping food and people are like, uh, you should have gloves. 874 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of mole are we talking about? 875 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 3: I mean it seems like if I can spot a 876 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: mole on a finger, that's a big mole. 877 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: I have moles on my fingers. No, you don't. People 878 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 2: rarely have If I do, you know, it's weird I have. 879 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: I had a mole on my finger that actually disappeared. 880 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,479 Speaker 3: Did you ever have warts on your hands? Oh? 881 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 2: My god, I was a wart kid. 882 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 3: You were, I, thank god? And knock on wood. I wasn't, 883 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 3: but that seemed like a tough thing to have. 884 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: I got warts on my thumbs all the time, and 885 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 2: I got warts on my toes all the time. 886 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 3: Wo how does that happen? 887 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: Just you know? I would I was a barefoot kid. 888 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: I would like be in the backyard a lot. I 889 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: loved feeling like I was a fairy, so like movies 890 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: like The Secret Garden or like The Little Princess, Like 891 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 2: I'm just sort of like in the wild, And I 892 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: would have to go to my mom's dermatologist and they 893 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 2: would have to freeze the warts off, and I used 894 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 2: to get the same wart on my thumb and ah god, 895 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: it was so painful. It was like a huge part 896 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 2: of my childhood. That and the fact that I had 897 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: to wear a patch for my lazy eye. 898 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: Oh interesting. Yeah, so that the patch is cool. 899 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 2: It wasn't cool. It wasn't cool. 900 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to support you. 901 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 2: It wasn't cool. It was They're like, wow, her eyes 902 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 2: are fucked up. So I wear a patch. 903 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 3: I think a patch when it's like the kind of 904 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 3: beige color not a good book. 905 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: It was flesh color. 906 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: It gotta go with a black one. The black eye 907 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 3: patch is cool and dangerous. All the other ones are 908 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed of my eye patch. No, embrace it. 909 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. 910 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 3: It's got a long history with pirates, et cetera. It 911 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: looks like kind of spooky and edgy. 912 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 913 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 3: The other thing is, don't look at me, right, and 914 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 3: then we're all looking at you. 915 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think it's a lot sexier now, right. 916 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: I think that we've sexified the I finally, finally, which 917 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: is good and good for us, right, thanks, I mean 918 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 2: for you and I personally, I think next it'll be 919 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: the peg leg. 920 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 3: Oh that could be sexy. Yeah, but I mean I 921 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 3: feel like all of those things. Are you embrace rather 922 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 3: than run? 923 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, embrace ale things. 924 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 3: So you have wars, So you have a long history 925 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 3: with things being burned off your body. 926 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, interesting. I recently got something burned off my nose. 927 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 2: Not a wart, it was a popule. 928 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 3: Oh mm hmm. What's the difference between that and a zi. 929 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: Well, so a popule is like a really hard nodule 930 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 2: on your skin that looks exactly like basil cell carcinoma. Oh, 931 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: and so so it could be dangerous. It could be dangerous. 932 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 2: I was on TikTok at two o'clock in the morning 933 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 2: and I saw I was like, oh, that's that thing 934 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 2: on my nose. And this person was like, I had extensive, 935 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 2: messed up skin cancer on my face. And so I 936 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 2: started crying and I woke up my husband and I 937 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 2: was like, I have skin cancer. He was like what. 938 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: So I went to my dermatologist that burned off my 939 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 2: words when I was a kid. You're still going to 940 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: the same person, same one. 941 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 3: Wow. I like a lifelong doctor. 942 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I went in there and it's tizzy. 943 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 2: I was like, I have skin cancer, right? She told 944 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 2: me it was a papule. She burns it off. 945 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 3: Are you not going in for a yearly checkup? No? 946 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: Because I'm not good at that. But now I'm an adult, 947 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 2: and now I am. 948 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 3: You gotta do it. 949 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So now I have a dentist. 950 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 3: Now, okay, you've got a dentist. That's a hart. I 951 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 3: just got two all caps texts for my dentist. I'm 952 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 3: quite sure what's going on. 953 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 2: What did they say? 954 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 3: The first was the office is sick. We have to 955 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 3: cancel your appointment. 956 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: The office is in all all. The office is sick. 957 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 2: We have to cancel your appointment. Where is this dentist? 958 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,919 Speaker 3: I don't want to to name the person, but why 959 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 3: do you have so much? Oh my god, I'm not 960 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 3: sure it's something I heard a witch dentist in the past. 961 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: Well wait, who is that? 962 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 3: That's Alice Ellis is upset that I have a lot 963 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: of dentists from. And I will say, in my defense, 964 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: I love this dentist. They're in Glendale. 965 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: Ellis. I'm so sorry. I got so scared by your 966 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 2: voice that was really scary. That was on me. You 967 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: guys are trying to breeze. You're trying to breeze past that. 968 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 3: I've never protect my dentist. 969 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, Ellis, that was really scary. 970 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 3: I pushed my protect the dentist button and that tells Ellis. 971 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 2: But in Ellis times in Okay. 972 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 3: No, they're in Glendale, and I love I love this 973 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 3: group of people. 974 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: Something well. 975 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 3: I think Glendale is wonderful. 976 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: I lived in Glendale for three years. It was three 977 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 2: years of what. 978 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 3: Was so rough about it? 979 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: Everything? 980 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 3: I like Glendale. I like the Americana. I love the Galleria. 981 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: Oh, for fuck's sake, I prefer the Gallery. I prefer 982 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 2: anything outside of Glendale, the Americana. 983 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 3: Really, that AMC is the only movie theater I'll go 984 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 3: to at this point. 985 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: The only AMC I'll go to is the one at 986 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 2: the God, the Lamely the what's it called. Oh it's 987 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 2: off of Sunset. Oh oh no, no, no, it's not even 988 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 2: it's not an AMC. It's a Landmark. Yeah, it's off 989 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: of Sunset. It's worth it's where Crunch used to be. 990 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 3: It's like the Bermuda Triangles. 991 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: I know, but they have a Landmark Theater there that 992 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 2: is top drawer. 993 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 3: It's very nice. But it's like the park. Oh my god, 994 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. 995 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 2: Even dare there's a CB two right there? 996 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 3: Is it free parking? 997 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 2: I mean, is anywhere free parking? 998 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 3: The galleria and then you walk to the America, Yeah. 999 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 2: They need people. There is there a Brookstone still in 1000 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 2: the galleria? That's a good question. 1001 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: Probably them all is large and mysterious. They've got three floors, 1002 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 3: they've got a they've got a kinds of nooks and 1003 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 3: cran probably. 1004 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 2: I bet they have like a brick and mortar dippin' dots. 1005 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 3: They have a lot of rotating dessert shops. Yeah, your 1006 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 3: dessert shops and malls. I'm always like, okay, just close 1007 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 3: it down, just get ahead of yourself. 1008 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 2: No one's dessert person. 1009 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 3: I love desserts, but in the mall, when it's like 1010 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 3: waffles with chocolate syrup on them, I'm like, this isn'to 1011 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 3: mall food. No one's eating this on one of those 1012 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 3: weird mall couches. 1013 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 2: Right, I love a mall couch. 1014 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 3: Oh do you ever eat on them? 1015 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure I have. I always think, like I always 1016 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 2: think when I look at a mall couch and I 1017 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: look at like the furniture within an enclosed mall. Where 1018 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 2: is that store? Right? Like, are they like do malls 1019 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 2: talk to each other and they just have a warehouse 1020 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 2: the mall furniture or are they buying it from Is 1021 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 2: there a mall furniture store or is it like here's 1022 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: the mall now we have all the furniture for the mall, 1023 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 2: which comes from the same guys that built the mall. 1024 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 3: Like, what's this from the guys brought you mall? 1025 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: Here's mall sofa? 1026 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 3: Do you know what a twisted mind of. 1027 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: Yes, from the twisted mind of Beverly Center. We have 1028 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 2: sort of couch. 1029 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 3: I think they have well, I'm kind of picturing right 1030 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 3: now playing the SIMS and you just click buttons and 1031 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 3: then you're kind of rotating the couch around in the mall. 1032 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 3: Mall tycoon. 1033 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 2: I love this, of course, Wait, they should do mal tycoon. 1034 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 3: I think there was a malt tycoon and I think 1035 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 3: it sucked. 1036 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: Oh okay, did you ever do roller coaster tycoon? Who 1037 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 2: do you think you're talking? Of course? Did you did SIMS? 1038 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 3: You were like I did SIMS and roller roller coaster tycoon? 1039 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: And you hid your sims have sex a lot, of course, okay, 1040 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 2: of course called was it called woohoo? 1041 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 3: Wo Yeah, they're getting under the covers and kind of 1042 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 3: then they're just kind of two things, kind of maneuvering 1043 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 3: around underneath. 1044 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: The sheep that you're here. Wos not big not big 1045 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 2: golda and it's woohoo. 1046 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: And then we're how does the baby arrive? Does a 1047 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 3: stork bring it? 1048 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: I think that. 1049 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 3: You open the toilet. 1050 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: I don't think the sim was pregnant for him. I 1051 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: think the sim is pregnant now. Now it's like very intricate. 1052 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're really getting into the realistic aspect. Yeah, and 1053 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 3: I've kind of had to distance myself. 1054 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 2: I know it's a little stressful. I'm trying to build 1055 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 2: my house exactly, but it's like really like you need 1056 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 2: to be an architect, like you need to do math, 1057 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: and I don't know what's going on. 1058 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 3: And they don't have your wallpaper, right, so forget it. 1059 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 2: I don't have any wallpaper. You don't have that wallpaper. 1060 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: I need to renovate parts in my house. 1061 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,439 Speaker 3: Okay, it's wallpaper on its way out. 1062 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 2: No, I think that a powder room slash guest math 1063 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 2: should be wallpapered. 1064 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 3: I think we're probably at peak wallpaper though, right. Don't 1065 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 3: you feel like we're like headed back towards no wallpaper? 1066 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 2: No, because I hate what millennials have done to interior design. 1067 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 2: I think I think it's the worst thing we've done 1068 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: to society. 1069 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: Well, hate it or not. Trends come and go. 1070 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 2: But I do think wallpaper stays. You think I do, But. 1071 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 3: There was don't you remember the period when people thought, 1072 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 3: get rid of all paper, get rid of carpet, And 1073 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 3: we're kind of still away from carpet. 1074 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: I okay, so I ripped up the carpet in my 1075 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 2: house because it was I mean, you can't do carpet, 1076 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 2: but I will say I do kind of love a 1077 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 2: carpeted bedroom. 1078 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 3: Oh it feels amazing on your feet. Yeah, but it's 1079 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,280 Speaker 3: just how do you get one that looks good? 1080 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 2: You get you need to go flashy, You need to 1081 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 2: get like a dark fun like. You need to make 1082 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 2: it a vibe. Right. 1083 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 3: You can't like an eye patch situation. You want it 1084 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,479 Speaker 3: to shine run. 1085 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: Away the dazzled eye patch, not flesh colored. 1086 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. A beige carpet is like, you can't do. 1087 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 2: A beige carpet, right, yeah, but. 1088 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 3: Then I'm I can't. I cannot picture a good looking carpet. 1089 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah you can, Yeah, you can go on Nordic Knots 1090 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: dot com Nordic No, yeah they have really. I just well, 1091 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 2: I just bought a rug from Nordic Knots because I 1092 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 2: was freaking out about the rug I was going to buy. 1093 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 2: I ended up buying another rug. So now I have 1094 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,720 Speaker 2: a Nordic Knots rug coming. But it's bright royal blue. 1095 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 3: Oh that sounds nice. Now, a rug, that's nice. A 1096 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 3: rug I can do with. But a full carpet. What 1097 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 3: about a fully carpeted mall? 1098 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 2: I hate that this is this could save. It feels 1099 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 2: like a backroom. Do you know like backrooms? 1100 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, a mall where every floor is carpeted. 1101 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 3: Imagine the sound in there would be so damp. 1102 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: Oh god, that's how I feel about like huge hotels 1103 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 2: of the big conference floors. Oh yeah, I don't like that. 1104 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you can't really hear your feet hit the floor. 1105 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 2: Can you hear anything? 1106 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 3: You vanish? 1107 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you vanished? That's where you go to vanish. Wow. 1108 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 3: No, I'm sure no one's been brave enough to try 1109 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 3: that yet with a fully fully carpeted mall. 1110 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 2: I think that it wouldn't go well because I think 1111 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 2: that I think that people are disgusting shoes off shoes 1112 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:50,959 Speaker 2: a shoe off mall. 1113 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 3: Yikes, Look you say that. 1114 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 2: Now, I don't want to see anyone's feet. Ever, how 1115 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 2: do you feel about your own feet? I my feet 1116 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 2: are really cute, but I don't like I want everyone's 1117 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 2: feet away from me. 1118 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 3: Okay, so the shoes off mall is probably not for you. 1119 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you wear flip flops? 1120 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 3: I don't, Okay, good. I guess if I were like 1121 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,320 Speaker 3: on a vacation that was going to be almost exclusively beach, 1122 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 3: I would probably have crocs, okay. Or I guess I 1123 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 3: would put on flip flops, but then I just don't 1124 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 3: have any other use for them in my life. 1125 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,240 Speaker 2: It's like your daily shoe. 1126 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 3: It's this. 1127 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: It's a kind of oh god, it's a it's a van. 1128 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 2: Is that a van? 1129 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a van in kind of a marshmallow beige color. 1130 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,319 Speaker 2: I like that. 1131 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 3: I've bought several pairs that are now I have a 1132 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,439 Speaker 3: new pair in the closet, just waiting until these ones die, 1133 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 3: and then I have worse pairs than this for other occasions, 1134 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 3: and they're all the same color, only it's the only 1135 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 3: one that I'm like, I like how this looks. 1136 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 2: And what's the original color white? 1137 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 3: No, it's this color. So it's kind of an off white, 1138 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 3: so it's not immediately dirty like it. You can build 1139 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 3: up the level of dirt on this. This is probably 1140 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,240 Speaker 3: a month old. 1141 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: Shoe at this point. That is, that's like a cool 1142 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 2: guy shoe. 1143 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 3: This is a cool guy shoe. And you are talking 1144 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 3: to a cool You are cool, Thank you, thank. 1145 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 2: You are like cool guy. 1146 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 3: I'm cool guy. Yeah, I'm the cool guy. And this 1147 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 3: is a podcast for guys. Yeah, cool guys in the manisphere. Yeah, 1148 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 3: so this is essentially the only shoe I'll wear at 1149 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 3: this point. Okay, what would you wear? I mean if 1150 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 3: you were at the beach? 1151 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so like a flip. 1152 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 3: Flop flip flop, but not in any other. 1153 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 2: My feet are the only feet that are okay with me. 1154 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm wearing brocken Stocks right now. So my toes are. 1155 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 3: Out there, they're out and parking. So would you wear 1156 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 3: a flip flop anywhere else in life? No? 1157 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 2: What about to like peticure, No, I'd wear Brickenstocks Okay, 1158 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 2: be reasonable. 1159 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 3: This is my problem. I need to think this through. 1160 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 3: When I go to get a pedicure, I always wear 1161 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 3: socks and shoes and then. 1162 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: After why I don't know, But do you forget? 1163 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 3: I just I don't do it often enough. I'm not 1164 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 3: part of that world enough to like know what I 1165 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 3: would which, like should I wear a crock or something? 1166 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 3: Wear a crock because afterwards your foot is dried, but 1167 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 3: it's still damp enough that you're like pulling on the 1168 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 3: sock in a weird way. 1169 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think sometimes your feet need to breathe, so 1170 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 2: you wear like an enclosed sandal. 1171 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 3: An enclosed sandal or a slide. 1172 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like how a slide. 1173 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 3: It looks like backtball, right, I don't know where I 1174 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 3: should turn, and I don't want to drive around in 1175 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 3: a flip flop or be seen wearing jeans and flip flops. 1176 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 2: But I'm sure that's going to come back. Jeans and 1177 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 2: flip flops are really really gross to me. I really 1178 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 2: don't like that. It's I'm sure it's on its way back. 1179 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 2: Just brace yourself. Yeah, I don't like it at all. 1180 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 3: Six years from now, you're going to be tooling around 1181 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 3: them all in a pair of you know, cut jeans 1182 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 3: and flip flops. 1183 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 2: I think that men wearing jeans and flip flops is 1184 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 2: like it. I don't want any man wearing a flip 1185 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm so so sorry. I really it's 1186 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 2: really it's mostly straight men, right. I don't know if 1187 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,240 Speaker 2: you've ever looked at a straight man's foot. 1188 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 3: I've looked at my feet, and as a gay man, 1189 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 3: I don't agree with my feet. 1190 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure your feet are more beautiful than 1191 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 2: you think. You're really beautiful, I don't. I don't want 1192 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 2: to comment on anything being ugly, but I do think 1193 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm allowed to say this about straight men, and I 1194 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 2: think that they need to put their feet away, keep 1195 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: them away. Yeah, like you're not allowed. How about you're 1196 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 2: not allowed to do that, right, That's not something you 1197 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 2: should ever do. 1198 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 3: But I don't want you giving gay men permission to 1199 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 3: wear flip flops either. 1200 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think gay men can do whatever they want. 1201 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 3: See now, this is where I disagree. 1202 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 2: I'm an ally. It's my job. Boys, listen to me, 1203 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck you want. Mama's here. That's what 1204 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 2: I say. 1205 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm the first gay person you've ever talked? Okay, well, 1206 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 3: I think we should probably play a game. Do we 1207 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 3: have anything left to say about Taro? 1208 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 2: Now? 1209 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull one more card okay, and you're gonna 1210 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 3: pull one more card. 1211 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 2: I feel like we should see. 1212 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 3: And these are just for us? 1213 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 2: Okay, what's yours? 1214 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 3: Mine is the eight of Roses? 1215 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 2: Okay, and mine is the seven of roses. 1216 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 3: What does that mean other than we're bad at shuffling. 1217 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 2: Other than we're bad at shuffling? 1218 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 3: Wait? 1219 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 2: What's this one? The King of shells? 1220 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 3: Okay, the King of shells? And it's two people in 1221 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 3: a gross embrace. That's probably one of the grossest embraces 1222 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 3: you could do. 1223 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 2: Oh really, I would you agree? I actually really love 1224 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 2: this kind of embrace. You don't like this one? 1225 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 3: Well, how would you describe that as an embrace? That 1226 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 3: is so gross to me? 1227 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 2: It's it's you know, you're you're you're twisty tewing to 1228 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 2: each other, You're looking apple your crisscross apple sauce to 1229 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 2: each other. 1230 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 3: Your legs are wrapped around each other like that, and 1231 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 3: you're so close. 1232 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 2: I think that's cozy, it's wet, it's what what do 1233 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 2: you think they're doing? 1234 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 3: I look at that, and I'm like, there's a dampness. 1235 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 3: There's a strange element to the way people were sitting. 1236 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 3: That's not for me. 1237 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 2: Okay, what what do you like? What do you like? 1238 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 3: Bottom of foot to bottom of foot, legs completely stretched. 1239 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 2: You No, I don't like that. I do like this. 1240 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 2: This is cozy. 1241 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 3: Do you like that? 1242 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 2: I do? 1243 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 3: Okay, listener, I like. 1244 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: To talk to people like this. I call this the 1245 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 2: drew Berry Moore. 1246 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 3: That is a total drew Berry drew. 1247 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 2: Berrymore for sure. So this is our clarification card. But wait, 1248 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 2: so you picked this six roses roses. Okay, give me 1249 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 2: the buck. Okay, let me try and find it. Okay, 1250 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 2: Jesus christ Erre, it's the drew Berry Moore. Wait where 1251 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 2: are Why is this so hard to I think it's. 1252 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 3: Kind of part of the the you know, spiritual element 1253 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:00,919 Speaker 3: of this. 1254 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1255 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 3: Different cards move from page to page, say of. 1256 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 2: The same you got the eight of roses, you said. 1257 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 3: I got the eight of roses. 1258 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 2: Okay, eight of roses. A regular and reliable arrangement or resource. 1259 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes we just want someone who can comfortably deliver. 1260 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 3: That's such a low bar. 1261 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically you're like you just want someone to 1262 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 2: take care of you, right, you would be taking care 1263 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 2: of right, which I love that for you. And then 1264 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 2: mine is I got the seven of Roses. Mine is 1265 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 2: slow down, don't overthink a situation that simply needs to 1266 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 2: run its course. Your patience and dedication will win out. 1267 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 2: So basically, I don't really know. 1268 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 3: It's that kind of a critical mom card. Yeah you know, 1269 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 3: she's just kind of badgering you. 1270 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, And what about the Drew Barrymore, 1271 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 2: the King of Shells? The Drew Barrymore got out. 1272 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 3: The shells, King of Shells? 1273 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 2: Where are the things? 1274 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 3: It's impossible to find a card in that? Oh? 1275 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a terrible and this is for both 1276 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 2: of us, by the way, Yeah, this is for both 1277 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 2: of us. This is for like us as a unit. 1278 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 2: This is us, This is us, and that's podcasting. Okay. 1279 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 2: King of Shells us gentle and experienced in love making. 1280 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, The King of Shells tends to prioritize pleasuring 1281 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 2: his partner like a sexual poseidon. 1282 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 3: Oh. 1283 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 2: He displays a powerful oceanic masculinity that's so cuteic masculinity, 1284 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 2: an oceanic masculinity that summons the deeps. The King tends 1285 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 2: to have a deep understanding and a magnetic gaze. Expect 1286 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 2: eye contact, a slow build, and possibly a sensuous massage 1287 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 2: at beginning and end. 1288 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 3: And then here's beginning bookends, yeah, bookend massage okay, pre 1289 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 3: and post okay. 1290 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 2: Interesting And then the take care note is when on balanced, 1291 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 2: this king can pursue his emotional whims to damaging extremes that. 1292 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 3: Are so damaging all the time. Yeah, go off, King, 1293 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 3: go off, King of the Ocean. Wow, my heart is 1294 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 3: pound damn sweating. This is the most erotic this podcast. 1295 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 3: I mean it will get more erotic after this episode, 1296 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 3: but this is really a start. 1297 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 2: I wanted to and I wanted to end here. 1298 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to play a game called Gift you 1299 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 3: a Curse. I need to number between one and ten 1300 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,479 Speaker 3: from you four. 1301 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Okay. 1302 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating to get our 1303 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 3: game pieces right now. You can promote, recommend. I don't 1304 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 3: care what you do. 1305 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 2: I am me. My name is Caitlin. I am a 1306 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 2: Virgo son, I am a Sagittarius rising, and I am 1307 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 2: an Aquarius moon. And so what's interesting about that is 1308 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Sagittarius risings are adventurers and comedians, so that's why. And 1309 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 2: then my Aquarius moon means that I'm like a little 1310 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 2: bit of an alien, you know, I'm kind of a 1311 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,439 Speaker 2: bit of a world thinker. And then my Vigo son 1312 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,439 Speaker 2: means that I have anxiety. So that's that's me. That's 1313 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 2: what I have going on. And I yeah, I am 1314 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 2: busy and I'm doing one thing, but I legitimately cannot 1315 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 2: talk about it yet, so I'm just gonna I just 1316 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 2: gave you my Big three instead, So there we go. 1317 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 3: Everyone find Caitlin somewhere. 1318 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 2: Oh, you can find me on the socials on Instagram. 1319 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 2: It's at high Caitlin Riley. Okay, are people on TikTok anymore? 1320 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 1321 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Well I'm there on TikTok. Just it's Caitlin. Hello, 1322 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Caitlyn Hello. And then I don't I don't have Twitter 1323 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 2: x because the in cells found me and I deleted it. 1324 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 3: Don't be sure I share your email? 1325 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm okay. 1326 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 3: I want one, guess at some point to just give 1327 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 3: away their email. 1328 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 2: I do have Gmail, though, and I hate it. You 1329 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 2: hate Gmail? 1330 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 3: What's the other option? 1331 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 2: Yahoo? 1332 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1333 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:56,919 Speaker 2: Is that? 1334 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 3: Can you still get a Yahoo? Account or are they 1335 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 3: all legacy account. 1336 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Or what is the other option aside from Gmail? 1337 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 3: It's probably some paid thing. It's probably like Apple has 1338 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 3: a thing that Apple at me dot com. 1339 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 2: I don't do that. I'm not paying for my email. 1340 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Okay, this is how we play gift or 1341 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 3: a curse. I'm going to name three things. You'll tell 1342 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,439 Speaker 3: me if there are a gift or a curse and why. 1343 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 3: Then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, because 1344 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 3: there are correct answers, they can lose great. 1345 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 2: Okay. 1346 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,479 Speaker 3: This first one is from a listener named Cameron. Gift 1347 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 3: or a curse When two pieces of a package snack 1348 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 3: are morphed into one, like goldfish or pretzels, et cetera. 1349 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 2: That's a curse. Why because there's a coagulation going on. 1350 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 2: But I didn't that I didn't pay for. Okay, So 1351 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 2: say I'm at a restaurant and I ordered the bag 1352 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 2: of cheese its and let's say there's a huge just 1353 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 2: like cheese curd clump where it's just like the dusting 1354 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 2: of the cheese it. That's a coagulation I did not 1355 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 2: pay for, and so that is a curse. I feel 1356 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 2: like you have I would throw that chip away. That's 1357 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 2: a curse. 1358 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,439 Speaker 3: Correct, It shows a lack of care. 1359 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 2: There's a lack of care. What happened at the factory. 1360 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 2: What happened at the factory? 1361 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 3: What happened to good old hard work, right, good old. 1362 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 2: Fashion, hardy assurance. 1363 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 3: Right? If I see those two, I'm taking it back 1364 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 3: to the store. Well, first I'm calling and I'm yelling 1365 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 3: at somewhere, and then I'm taking it back to the store. 1366 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 3: I'm spitting it out of my mouth. God forbid, I 1367 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 3: chew it. You get it in time out, you. 1368 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 2: Go to the store, you have it in your mouth, 1369 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 2: you're talking to someone, you spit it out of your mouth. 1370 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 2: Look at this and look at this. 1371 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 3: No, I don't have my receipt, right, Yeah, but an 1372 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 3: absolute curse. Anyone that disagrees is wrong. 1373 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 1374 01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 3: The second one is from unfortunately former producer Stephen Ray Morris. 1375 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 3: He somehow found his way into my inbox. Give her 1376 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,919 Speaker 3: a curse. An unprompted wall of a text message. 1377 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh I love gossip waits. So it's a wall of 1378 01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 2: text that you are receiving from somebody. Is it good 1379 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 2: or bad? I guess that's what we're finding out. I 1380 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 2: think it's a gift. Why because I the other day 1381 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 2: I sent my group chat a fifteen minute voice note 1382 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 2: and I'm not kidding. 1383 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 3: You have to send like a quiz after to see 1384 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 3: if they actually listen to and they do, and they 1385 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 3: did fifteen minutes. Yeah, desperate for a podcast? Right, that 1386 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 3: was a backdoor pilot. Yeah, one of them says, this 1387 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 3: is enough, let's let's start a podcast. 1388 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 2: No, I think I do think that it's a gift. 1389 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 2: I love I love it when someone needs to tell 1390 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 2: me something. I like being involved. 1391 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 3: Correct, Yay, this is a gift. 1392 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 2: You know. 1393 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,479 Speaker 3: It's either going to be a ton of gossip, yeah, 1394 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 3: or it's going to be the start of some sort 1395 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 3: of situation in your life with a lot of drama 1396 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 3: because somebody's mad, someone has something to. 1397 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 2: Say, someone cares to communicate with you. Right, it's actually 1398 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 2: really romantic, just. 1399 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 3: Scrolling and scrolling through one block of text. I love it. 1400 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 3: I love it anytime your heart, regardless of what it says, 1401 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 3: your heart will be racing for a minute because you'll 1402 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 3: be thinking, oh my god, what why didn't they do this? 1403 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 3: In four different texts? 1404 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's reminding you, like, baby, I'm alive. 1405 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 3: Right, and you picture them at their typewriter, typing away, 1406 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 3: sending that thing off to you. Oh yeah, there's that's 1407 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 3: dedication to care. That's the opposite of the goldfish situe. 1408 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 3: The new love letter, right. 1409 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 2: It's the new love letter. Yeah, all right. 1410 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 3: Finally, this is from a listener named Brian Gifter. A 1411 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 3: curse those little free library boxes that people put up 1412 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 3: in front of their houses. 1413 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,439 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's really performative to me, and I don't 1414 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 2: like it gift or a curse. It's a curse because 1415 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 2: if I walk past it, all of a sudden, I 1416 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 2: have to interact. And if I don't interact, then apparently 1417 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 2: I don't like people are reading. It's this perform it's 1418 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 2: a performative thing. It's a performative community thing. It's really cute. 1419 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 2: I just like part of me is like, oh great, 1420 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure you have like homemade granola in your Ketchum. 1421 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 2: I just I think it's a curse. I think it's like, 1422 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 2: just get it. Get the book from Amazon. Please. No 1423 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 2: one is the time. 1424 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 3: God wrong, wrong, this is a gift. 1425 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 2: Amazon's terrible. Don't do that. Go to bookstores. 1426 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 3: No. I spoke to Caitlin before she has a kind 1427 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 3: of a partnership. She's teamed up with Amazon. 1428 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever, whatever. Mama's got a payabell. You needed that 1429 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 2: fifty bucks? Yeah? 1430 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 3: No, these are a gift. Look, have I ever found 1431 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 3: a book in one that I wanted to read or 1432 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 3: had any interest ever in taking home with me? No? Okay, 1433 01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 3: but it's a nice little moment where you get to 1434 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 3: stop and kind of just linger in front of a 1435 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,720 Speaker 3: stranger's home for too long, kind of looking through their things. 1436 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 3: How often do you get invited to look through strangers things? 1437 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 2: That's a really good point. I don't get invited enough, 1438 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 2: and I do love looking through strangers things. 1439 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 3: And I'm now thinking this is a new show Stranger's Things. 1440 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 3: Stranger Maybe it could be like an antique road show 1441 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 3: style show. Yeah, where they're appraising strangers things, and then 1442 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 3: we bring in a supernatural element that doesn't pay it. 1443 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 2: Praisers are dressed up as Demi Gorgan's. 1444 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 3: There we go, Yeah, there we go. This is coming 1445 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 3: together strangers things. 1446 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Strangers things. I like that this is our thing together. 1447 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 2: This is that we found it Siranda's reach out. This 1448 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 2: is us pitching strangers things to Ted. Saranda's on his desk. 1449 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 3: We're sitting through Bary Moore style on his Yeah yeah, 1450 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 3: He's like, when are they going to kiss? 1451 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? We never kiss. That. That's the hook of the show, 1452 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 2: the tension. Yeah, well you got. 1453 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 3: Two out of three? 1454 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 2: Are we done? You've I mean you've I wouldn't say 1455 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 2: failed the game. I don't fail. 1456 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 3: No, you've never. 1457 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Failed, not according to my seven roses in my chariot. 1458 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 3: Please, I think we should answer a listener question. Fantastic 1459 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 3: people are writing into I said no gifts at gmail 1460 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 3: dot com. I'm not afraid to give my email away. 1461 01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 3: That's my personal email. I just said no gives it 1462 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 3: email dot com and they're begging for answers. Will help 1463 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 3: me answer one of these? 1464 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 2: Of course. 1465 01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 3: This is Dear Bridger and guests. I have been invited 1466 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 3: to the housewarming of two newly married friends. The invite 1467 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 3: states and I quote your presence is gift enough, which 1468 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 3: is quickly followed by if you insist on bringing something, 1469 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,519 Speaker 3: please consider a no Skips vinyl album that would remind 1470 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 3: us of you. First, I mean, don't go, God, don't go. 1471 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 2: Wait wait, So what's the question. 1472 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I just had to kind of I'm 1473 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,600 Speaker 3: collecting myself, you know that kind of shattered me. It 1474 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 3: seems conflicting to say no gifts but then be asked 1475 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 3: to bring something. Maybe your guests can relate. Okay, my 1476 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 3: question is what no skips album should I bring? Do 1477 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 3: I bring an album that I consider no skips but 1478 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 3: no they will not enjoy, for example Blink one eighty 1479 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 3: two's Enema of the State. Or do I select an 1480 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 3: album that is more in their wheelhouse and likely to 1481 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,799 Speaker 3: be listened to by them down the line, for example, 1482 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,639 Speaker 3: Lady gagaz Born this way, any advice will have you 1483 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 3: have be appreciated. That's from Colin in Portland. 1484 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 2: Okay, so I hate this couple. 1485 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 3: This couple is such a dread that is. 1486 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 2: So obnoxious because do you know what work one needs 1487 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 2: to go through to like get in their car find 1488 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 2: the record store because there's record stores on every block 1489 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,679 Speaker 2: in every city. 1490 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 3: I smell another Amazon promo. 1491 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 2: Coming from yeah yeah, So then you have to then 1492 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 2: you have to sift through and find, like like by us, 1493 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 2: a record, but not just any record. 1494 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 3: A perfect to help them, which, by the way, is subjective. 1495 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 3: So it's a little like now we're putting in this 1496 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 3: weird critical element where you bring something and we might 1497 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 3: just think you're stupid or you have bad taste. People 1498 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 3: have all sorts of different types of no skip out. 1499 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm getting them. Fred Durst solo, Help, Yeah, what is it? 1500 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 2: Start but kiss, start, star butt? 1501 01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 3: What is. 1502 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,679 Speaker 2: Let's not ellis? What's that album called star? 1503 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 3: It's hot dog flavored Water's. 1504 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,640 Speaker 2: On flavored water and this star But so what is it? 1505 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 2: There's a second part to it. 1506 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 3: This is the Limp Biscuit album, not. 1507 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 2: Chocolate Starfish and the hot dog flavored water. And maybe 1508 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,360 Speaker 2: who's Fred Durst? 1509 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 3: Fred Durst is the He is the vocalist. See, let's 1510 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 3: call him a singer. He's a singer, singer, singer. 1511 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:29,759 Speaker 2: He's a musician. 1512 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:30,560 Speaker 3: He's a vocalist. 1513 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,840 Speaker 2: Wait, so I just said the vocalist of Limp Biscuit, 1514 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 2: not just Limp Powerhouse vocalist, Powerhouse vocalist, Limp Biscuit, Starfish, 1515 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,360 Speaker 2: Water and the hot Dog star Kiss. 1516 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 3: Ultimately, what you're trying to say is that's a no. 1517 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 2: Skips, a no skips album. So that's the album that 1518 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 2: I would bring as a fuck you to this couple, 1519 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 2: or bring an organic orange wine with like a lot 1520 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,400 Speaker 2: of sediment in which I did the other day. I 1521 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 2: did the other day and the househost was like, oh wow, 1522 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff in it. Huh. I was like, yeah, yeah, 1523 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 2: there is hot dog flavored water, hot dog flavored water, 1524 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:10,759 Speaker 2: and the star Butt Kiss. 1525 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 3: That feels like a wine spin off or Limp Biscuit. 1526 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,600 Speaker 3: They should start a wine business. They should kind of 1527 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 3: spin off of that album. Yeah, that would revive sales, 1528 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 3: I think so. I bet they're looking for that. 1529 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:21,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that's resurgence. 1530 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 3: I feel like Collin take the Olympiscuit album, Yeah, take 1531 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 3: a Long, which I'm sure was on vinyl. That feels 1532 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,480 Speaker 3: very Vinyl. 1533 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 2: Ready for me, very Vinyl ready album. 1534 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 3: There's a warmth to that album there is. 1535 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to I want to, really, I want 1536 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,759 Speaker 2: to feel like I'm in the studio kind of surrounded 1537 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 2: by the sound of it all. I want to be 1538 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 2: inside the Biscuit. 1539 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 3: Yes, or take nothing, because they did say don't bring anything. 1540 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 3: When somebody says don't bring anything, and then the second 1541 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 3: thing is extremely annoying if I even show up, right. 1542 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 2: But also like so, then so then if you say 1543 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 2: it's such a specific gift, So if you say don't 1544 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,240 Speaker 2: bring anything, but if you're going to bring someone something, 1545 01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,680 Speaker 2: Please bring a vinyl album that perfectly reflects you as 1546 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 2: a human being. So then they're going to so so 1547 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 2: here's the thing they're leading the witness, Right, So this 1548 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 2: couple is like, that's going to make everyone want to 1549 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 2: bring an album because what a fun little game. So 1550 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 2: every single person is going to come in the house 1551 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 2: and be like, okay, so this is the vinyl album 1552 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 2: I brought, and then the couple is going to be like, 1553 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,680 Speaker 2: oh my god, of course yes. It's going to be 1554 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 2: this really cute back and forth, and then there's going 1555 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 2: to be that one person that doesn't bring in a 1556 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 2: vinyl album, and it's going to be a disappointment. Right, 1557 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 2: So I would say my answer is don't go. 1558 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,680 Speaker 3: I think absolutely don't go. 1559 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 2: Cut them out, Yeah, look at them out of your 1560 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 2: life because they sound very toxic. 1561 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 3: Can you imagine going to that and being the only 1562 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 3: person that brings vinyl and I. 1563 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 2: Would do it? Oh, I thought you meant the only 1564 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:47,759 Speaker 2: person that doesn't bring vinyl. 1565 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 3: Either way, it's horrible, But imagine showing up and you're 1566 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 3: the only person who did that. The horror, the spine chill. 1567 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 2: And how obnoxious I would have to leave. 1568 01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 3: I would put it on a table and just walk out, 1569 01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 3: and the. 1570 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,800 Speaker 2: Couple would make it would be a whole It would 1571 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 2: be the sort of centerpiece of the evening. 1572 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 3: Right of course, of them making fun of. 1573 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 2: You, no, of them being like, uh, oh, Bridger, I 1574 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 2: can't believe you actually bought an out. Oh my, oh 1575 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 2: my good uh Fridger, wait okay, hold on, wait butriger 1576 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,559 Speaker 2: come here, wait hold on Bridger, Okay, why this richer? 1577 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 2: Why this album? 1578 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 3: Then they put it on. 1579 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Yes, so they're gonna make a whole spectacle of it, 1580 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 2: because that is inherently what they want, right, So they're 1581 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 2: gonna just hook into you the whole night. Personal hell yeah, 1582 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 2: personal health. Well, we answered the question perfectly. I think 1583 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:40,680 Speaker 2: we did. 1584 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 3: You didn't win the game, That's fine. 1585 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 2: I didn't win the game. I was kind of an 1586 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 2: annoying guest. I was late. I think I talked over 1587 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 2: you a little bit. You're kind of loud and repetitive. 1588 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 3: You've been a real d plus I've been a real Yeah, 1589 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm unfortunately. 1590 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 2: But that's okay. 1591 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,360 Speaker 3: That's why we're able to delete audio. 1592 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:00,599 Speaker 2: Thank god. 1593 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 3: All right, I mean this will we'll save this as 1594 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 3: like once the podcast is fully over. We'll be like 1595 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,519 Speaker 3: and one special tree. This one. Don't get your hopes 1596 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 3: up at the episode sucks. Yeah, but you can listen 1597 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 3: to it because you need more. Yeah, that'll be in 1598 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 3: a few years and that's fine, fantastic, and you'll be 1599 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 3: famous by then. Fame, fame. 1600 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 2: It's in my car. 1601 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll be on floats galore. 1602 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 2: I'll be on floats galore. I've had such a lovely 1603 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 2: time with you. I've had such a lovely time with you. 1604 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. 1605 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. 1606 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over. It's just over. I'm I'm 1607 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,560 Speaker 3: asking everyone to stop listening. Stop, get over it, move on. 1608 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 3: I love you, goodbye. I said No Gifts is an 1609 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 3: exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and 1610 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 3: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme 1611 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,799 Speaker 3: song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't 1612 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 3: do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow 1613 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 3: the show on Instagram. At I said No Gifts, that's 1614 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 3: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful 1615 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,839 Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? 1616 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 3: I invit? 1617 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 1: Did you hear Gonta made myself perfectly clear. 1618 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 3: But you're a guest to my home. 1619 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, and I said, no guests. 1620 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 1: You're our presences, presents enough, and I already had too 1621 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 1: much stuff. So how do you dare to survey me