WEBVTT - Drive Time: Patrick Paul Tape Study, Prospect Profiles with Nick Emmanwori, Derrick Harmon

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<v Speaker 1>What is up, Dolphans And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host Travis Wingfield, and on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>with Toran's retirement official, I wanted to spend some time

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<v Speaker 1>watching Patrick Paul and give you an assessment on his

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and thirty eight reps from his rookie season,

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<v Speaker 1>plus two more player prospect profiles as well look at

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<v Speaker 1>two more potential options at pick thirteen with South Carolina's

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<v Speaker 1>Nick e Man Worry and Organ's Derek Harmon to round

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<v Speaker 1>out our round one potential wish list from the Baptist

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<v Speaker 1>Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Draft Time Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Jie so currently working on the Friday and next Monday podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just kind of like realizing how quickly the

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<v Speaker 1>Draft is approaching and how ready I am for this

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<v Speaker 1>year's class. I am very excited about it because the

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<v Speaker 1>more I dive into Day two and Day three options, like,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of players that I think would

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<v Speaker 1>make this football team better across the ten picks that

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<v Speaker 1>you have, and I cannot wait to share all the

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<v Speaker 1>information that I've kind of gathered for you guys. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go heavy next week, the week of the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>will have Kyle Krabs on for his annual two part

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<v Speaker 1>episode and then we're there. We'll be talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>draft come Thursday night, breaking down that first round pick

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<v Speaker 1>wherever it might come from.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am fired up. As for today's show.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, Happy Masters Week to everybody who celebrates. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wish my body had shut down last week

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<v Speaker 1>and I was sick for five days compared to this week,

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<v Speaker 1>or I should say wish it was this week compared

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<v Speaker 1>to last week, because that Texas Valero open just does

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<v Speaker 1>not quite have the same juice of Augusta.

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<v Speaker 2>But I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>So the left tackle position pivot has some clarity following

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<v Speaker 1>the news that came down over the weekend, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we start here. I think Patrick Paul could become

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<v Speaker 1>the model of how things are run in Miami if

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<v Speaker 1>all goes according to plan this season. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by this is it's draft night. You're on the clock.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all these options, some maybe for immediate impact

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<v Speaker 1>and betterment of the team, but not for the best

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<v Speaker 1>long term interest of the team. And while you're staring

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<v Speaker 1>down that ball of clay that fits everything that you do,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe you don't have a starting spot for him

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<v Speaker 1>as a rookie, or perhaps there's some technique issues that

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<v Speaker 1>have to get ironed out, or NFL strength training. A

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<v Speaker 1>cornucopia of reasons why that player might not be the

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<v Speaker 1>best year one fit, but come year three, they're the

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<v Speaker 1>best potential player on the board for you. And we

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<v Speaker 1>can probably apply this to a decent portion of that

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four class, right, I mean, we just just

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<v Speaker 1>a random aside. One of the things I appreciate most

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<v Speaker 1>about coach McDaniel is we get this every offseason. He

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<v Speaker 1>and they as a staff will assess what went wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They come up with a plan for how to attack it.

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<v Speaker 1>They communicate that plan with us in the media and

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<v Speaker 1>as fans. Then the moves tend to track with those

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<v Speaker 1>comments and ideas and with coach. This year it's been

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<v Speaker 1>about the emphasis on draft picks, young players, free agents

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<v Speaker 1>off that first contract, all the things we highlighted about

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<v Speaker 1>potential ways to attack the offseason and roster building philosophies

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<v Speaker 1>that we had Kyle on four that I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>here for the Miami Dolphins heading into the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>for this year, it's basically been an emphasis on draft

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<v Speaker 1>picks and how that's the key in the current NFL

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<v Speaker 1>landscape for a multitude of reasons. It's always been that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more highlighted now than ever before because of

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened to free agency. You're getting adequate starters, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>third tier players getting Tier one contracts in many respects.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Wright was this way. Malik Washington kind of was

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<v Speaker 1>two to a lesser extent, but before December he had

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<v Speaker 1>ten catches. Chopp finishes a lot stronger, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>an impact player. So as a rookie, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>include him in that group, but you get the concept.

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted players who began to really take off after their

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<v Speaker 1>rookie season. We saw with Robert Hunt, who barely played

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<v Speaker 1>as a rookie, which I don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>saw the back and forth with Robin and Omar on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>but hilarious gaff once again there. We saw it with

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Jackson in his fourth season. It goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>something I said in the podcast at least one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>times this year, over a thousand or I should say

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<v Speaker 1>over one thousand episodes over five years. The best way

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<v Speaker 1>for teams to improve is for the incumbent players to

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<v Speaker 1>step forward. So to bring this back, a lot was

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<v Speaker 1>made over the selection of Patrick Paul because of the

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<v Speaker 1>perceived needs at the guard position last year. And now

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<v Speaker 1>look at where we are, a predictable place where our

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<v Speaker 1>generational tackle who willed himself onto the football field for

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<v Speaker 1>basically three straight years, doesn't finish a full seventeen games,

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<v Speaker 1>but plays a lot of games. But we knew that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the body was just not going to last that

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<v Speaker 1>much longer, right, and the retirement comes down the pipe,

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<v Speaker 1>And imagine how much tougher this offseason becomes if you

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<v Speaker 1>had to fined to Ron's replacement. Because we've been over this,

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<v Speaker 1>the free agent tackle market does not exist. It's blockbuster,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone. I mean it does. But you're paying like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five million dollars for Dan Morgan who is a

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<v Speaker 1>fringe starter at best. It's quite crazy. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, tackles tend to go super fast, and you

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<v Speaker 1>might be able to get like a Kelvin Banks at thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think that's an inspire hiring draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>if he's there. And I'm not sure that thirteen is

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<v Speaker 1>the place where you get value for the tackle position,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it picked forty eight. Tackles don't usually usually

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<v Speaker 1>don't come off that late, which is I guess a

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<v Speaker 1>contradiction because Patrick Paul was in that range. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you drafted him and sat him and developed him,

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<v Speaker 1>because he wasn't ready to play as a rookie. So

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<v Speaker 1>there would have been really challenging questions to solve that issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But now we have Patrick Paul who's had a year

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<v Speaker 1>of coaching in the system, which is so valuable in

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<v Speaker 1>this offense in particular, had a really good training camp

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<v Speaker 1>and then showed substantial growth from his rookie tape compared

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<v Speaker 1>to what he was at Houston. And I would even

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<v Speaker 1>say what he was on tape against the Titans in

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<v Speaker 1>that first start in the horrible no good week four

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night beat down by a bad football team versus

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<v Speaker 1>what we got in the Jets and Texans games where

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't start the Jets game, but he played from

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth snap on. And I know PFF doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>like him, but we don't give a tamn about that,

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<v Speaker 1>right because I mean, they're grading process. Hees have really

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<v Speaker 1>gone by the wayside over the years. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>also challenge anybody watching Paul to do it on a curve,

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<v Speaker 1>because Paul's twenty twenty four reps on an Island shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be viewed in the same prism as Patrick Paul's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four reps compared to where that college tape was, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, he was mechanically a disaster in college.

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<v Speaker 2>He was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Chris Greeven had to take it to the

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<v Speaker 1>podium and say, like, even when he gets beat and

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanics are bad, there's still wins on tape. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he had to calm the backlash over that. But we

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<v Speaker 1>saw vast improvements really from training camp day one all

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<v Speaker 1>the way through December. I knew early on that Pat

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<v Speaker 1>had the right demeanor to execute. What he told me

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<v Speaker 1>was his biggest goal was to relearn his pass protection

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<v Speaker 1>technique because at Houston he was doing something called catching,

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<v Speaker 1>where you basically open your hands and throw them at

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<v Speaker 1>the defender rather than punching. It's more of a looping

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<v Speaker 1>mechanic than like a straight eight point eight to point

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<v Speaker 1>B punch, and he explained this in his media availabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also told me on Drivetime last summer that

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<v Speaker 1>his ambition to really work on his past sets and

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<v Speaker 1>when he told me his goal is to one day

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<v Speaker 1>be the president of Nigeria, where his grandfather was once president,

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<v Speaker 1>when his playing career is over, and just by getting

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<v Speaker 1>to know him, he is an extremely driven individual, so

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<v Speaker 1>you need not worry about him putting in the work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a certainty. Is that a guarantee that he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a good player. No, it's not, but it's a prerequisite

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<v Speaker 1>that you cannot skip over. So at least we have that,

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, why don't we provide an assessment. He

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<v Speaker 1>played one snap in Seattle. He played sixty in the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans game the entire game, by the way, nineteen in

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<v Speaker 1>the home win versus the Pats, seventeen in the game

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<v Speaker 1>in Green Bay. Then he got two basically full games

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<v Speaker 1>versus the Jets. Started the game against the Texans, came

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<v Speaker 1>off the bench in the Cleveland game for thirty three snaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he started at right tackle against the Jets in

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<v Speaker 1>the finale. And I don't I'm gonna shed those last

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<v Speaker 1>two games because he's not a right tackle. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>ready for that position, I don't think. And also coming

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<v Speaker 1>in cold against Miles Garrett. I don't think is a

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable measurement for a guy that we're trying to evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>and see where his growth can be in year one.

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<v Speaker 1>So now if he sees miles in a game this

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<v Speaker 1>year and we have the Browns on our schedule, then

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<v Speaker 1>for that's all, like you have to perform in those situations,

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<v Speaker 1>so that one's on the table. But for this purpose

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<v Speaker 1>is for the purpose of this assessment, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>remove those two games.

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<v Speaker 2>So I looked at the Titans game.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to look at the Packers and Patriots minimal

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<v Speaker 1>snap games as well as those Texans and Jets starts

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<v Speaker 1>or almost start against the Jets, So two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one snaps in total, and that Jets game, he

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<v Speaker 1>comes off the bench for Toronto Armstead four plays into

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<v Speaker 1>the first drive, we score a touchdown, Armstead comes back out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then pauls back in two plays later. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think Testead played like six snaps in the game. And

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<v Speaker 1>the play that play is his first outside zone play

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<v Speaker 1>called in the entire game, and he reaches a nine

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<v Speaker 1>technique knocks him off his spot. A nine technique is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's way outside of your tackle right he

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<v Speaker 1>is outside where a tight.

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<v Speaker 2>End would be.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like two or three steps away from the formation,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you have to get out there and get

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside shoulder and turn him back inside. And

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<v Speaker 1>Pat not only knocks him off of his spot, he

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<v Speaker 1>turns him in and steals him inside. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>most consistent thing I see on his tape to hit

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<v Speaker 1>blocks in space with control and overpowering control quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you know it, that's the basis of this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know, there's a lot of conformation about certain

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<v Speaker 1>picks and evaluations, but like they know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what they look for and who fits

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<v Speaker 1>those traits. And that's evident as you know, clear as

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<v Speaker 1>day with Patrick Paul. And you see how that factors

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<v Speaker 1>in with our play action game. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna have this on an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins HQ coming up. I'm gonna break down these two

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<v Speaker 1>plays in particular where you get an outside zone run

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<v Speaker 1>and then play action pass off of that, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just marry up so well together. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he especially executes these two factors, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of our offense because those guys have to brace

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. Defenders have to brace for a potential four

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<v Speaker 1>two eight running back coming around the edge with the football,

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<v Speaker 1>and then also contend with a three hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five pound monster who wants to ruin their life with

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<v Speaker 1>great athletic ability, trying to put them six feet below

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<v Speaker 1>the hard rock surface, hard rock stadium surface, out they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the playing field. So he's able to go jump

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<v Speaker 1>set these nine technique rushers and just lock them down

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<v Speaker 1>because they're on their back foot, like you're bringing the

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<v Speaker 1>heat to me, I have to adapt to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So where he utilizes.

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<v Speaker 1>His athleticism in the running game, in the play action game,

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<v Speaker 1>that allows him to neutralize his rush counterpart to a

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<v Speaker 1>phone booth. And if you look at his pass rush

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<v Speaker 1>stats like or at pass rush stats across the league,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason that tackles give up the most pressures

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<v Speaker 1>then guards than centers. It's the further out you are,

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<v Speaker 1>the more space you have the tougherness to block those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll watch Tron Armstead and how often he would

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<v Speaker 1>jump set. It's basically, when you have that nine technique,

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<v Speaker 1>you go meet them where they are. You don't get

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<v Speaker 1>vertical and allow them a three or four step runway

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<v Speaker 1>to build speed, to set up a counter move, to

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<v Speaker 1>set up a bull rush. You go get them where

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<v Speaker 1>they are, cut that runway down to two steps, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, they have to win in a

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<v Speaker 1>phone booth. And to me, Paul has a natural transition

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<v Speaker 1>to this from the run game because of his traits

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<v Speaker 1>in play style. So one play he erases a defender

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<v Speaker 1>at the point of attack. Then on a similar play

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<v Speaker 1>but with play action on the play the next snap,

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<v Speaker 1>he creates a situation where this two hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>pound edge has to try to beat him in a

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<v Speaker 1>phone booth. And there's not anybody in football doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like from a physiology standpoint, it's not possible because Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Paul's three hundred and thirty five pounds with an eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five inch wingspan. You like it's trying to like, he's

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<v Speaker 1>his back is to the phone in the phone booth,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to get to the phone around him.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do it because he's blocking it. He's too big.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not enough space in the phone booth.

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<v Speaker 1>The balance, the poise, the lack of heels clicking, which

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<v Speaker 1>for a guy that size, I'll never forget Phil Loadholt.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a tackle out of Oklahoma who played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings, and we had the Vikings in Week two

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine after a win on the road

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<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo, and the Vikings were coming off the first

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Favre. Maybe it's twenty ten, yeah, twenty ten, the

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Favier. They lost an MFTY championship game to the Saints,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were supposed to lose that game. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>watch out for Cam wake on Phil Loadholt because he

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<v Speaker 1>clicks his heels. He's a three hundred and forty pound

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<v Speaker 1>tackle who can't move, and Cam wake eats those guys

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<v Speaker 1>for breakfast. And sure enough, I think Cam had two

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<v Speaker 1>sacks like a safety or a fourth fumble in that

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<v Speaker 1>game and basically won us that game. Like Patrick Paul

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<v Speaker 1>is the same size as Phil load Holt, but he

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<v Speaker 1>moves like Tron Armstead does. He's a smooth glider who

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<v Speaker 1>can really react to the attempts to create distance, to disengage,

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<v Speaker 1>to cross face or get up field. In fact, his

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<v Speaker 1>poison balance in general I think should be praised. He's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good about having his butt parallel to the ground

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<v Speaker 1>as he covers ground on the kickslide.

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<v Speaker 2>He constantly is.

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<v Speaker 1>In great shape against those wide nine rushers, but not

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<v Speaker 1>having a vertical set, or by not having a vertical

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<v Speaker 1>set rather but getting out there and shortening up their

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<v Speaker 1>runway and not getting over anxious on that first move.

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<v Speaker 1>So his tape honestly comes down to one thing between

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<v Speaker 1>his flat out, dominant reps and the ones where he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look as sharp. And to me, it's the hands

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<v Speaker 1>when he gets his punch right and inside. The comparison

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<v Speaker 1>is Billy Madison against the fourth grade class playing dodgeball.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all in big, big trip. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>They just don't make movies like that anymore, do they.

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<v Speaker 1>But for Pat, like, when the punch is accurate and good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it looks like like. He's, you know, playing

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<v Speaker 1>basketball against a bunch of people that are three foot

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<v Speaker 1>six tall. When his hands get outside the rushers, they

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of take control of the rep. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here telling you how great he is. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and talk about some of the things that jumped

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<v Speaker 1>out in a negative way on the tape. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the flaws I saw those hands are still outside the framework.

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<v Speaker 1>Too often we have to clean that up and we

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the more Billy Madison reps. A post

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<v Speaker 1>to getting beat. It doesn't allow him to lock down

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<v Speaker 1>or keep a defender where he wants. They can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of control the rep from there. A couple of goal

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<v Speaker 1>line runs against the Jets where he washed an edge

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<v Speaker 1>inside but was able was not able to finish the

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<v Speaker 1>block because they could work back across his face because

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<v Speaker 1>of Patrick's inferior hand position.

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<v Speaker 2>On the rep.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some waste bending, which is where you'll see the

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<v Speaker 1>player's body basically folding half into blocks, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst place to be for an offense. Am You

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<v Speaker 1>can't see what you're hitting, Your balance is terrible. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be able to pivot or drop step

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<v Speaker 1>or do anything. It's an awful place to be. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some of that in his tape still, it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be from alignments. When he gets that look where he

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<v Speaker 1>is on the line of scrimmage with a tight end

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<v Speaker 1>attached and he can't get that depth. The tackle kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sets further off the line of scrimmage. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he feels his corner is shorter and feels

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<v Speaker 1>more urgency because of that tight end alignment next to him.

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<v Speaker 1>But from those reps you can see him kind of

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<v Speaker 1>race to get to a spot. Then the feet stop,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's also a non sequard or you cannot have that.

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<v Speaker 1>And this usually comes with an inside move that he

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<v Speaker 1>has a tough time reacting to. He does drop his

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<v Speaker 1>head into blocks. You can see some reps where everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>head is up and face masks are on their blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll see the face mask of Pat's helmet looking

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<v Speaker 1>straight down to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot do that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's reps where he's just straight down and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>block what you can't see. I think back to Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Greer's comments about him on draftnight once again that he

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<v Speaker 1>can be mechanically bad and still win because of the

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<v Speaker 1>physical skills. And that's still the case for him as

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<v Speaker 1>a pro, which is kind of crazy, because he is

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<v Speaker 1>the best athletes in the NFL or in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, Like on the opening drive against the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets where he made that key block for the HM

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown run, you see him drop his head, but the

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<v Speaker 1>way he drives his man off the football and totally

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<v Speaker 1>uproots him. It's the key block for a touchdown run.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see pat celebrate accordingly. So I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a mechanically deficient, mechanical deficiency and you still get

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<v Speaker 1>that type of win if he can harness it, if

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<v Speaker 1>he can take strides in that area. My expectations for

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<v Speaker 1>all offensive linemen that come in the league these days,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've talked about the lack of development at the

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<v Speaker 1>college level, right then if he can do all that,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have something special because he'll have the wow

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<v Speaker 1>reps and then the bad reps will not be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Liam getting split in half and falling down and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has a meme about it on social media. The bad

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<v Speaker 1>rep is like, oh, he barely lost the edge there

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<v Speaker 1>and it sped two up by a tenth of a second.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, it's going to be a player with flashes,

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<v Speaker 1>but also plenty of bad losses stick out in your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, like the ceiling is already like attainable

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<v Speaker 1>and there for him, but we got to get that

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<v Speaker 1>floor up and we can do that through better technique.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the best part.

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<v Speaker 1>Of his game is if you don't really see him

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<v Speaker 1>give ground upon contact to condense that down. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>hard to move, which is a good trait for an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman right, whether it's ceiling an alley or absorbing

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<v Speaker 1>a bull rush, guys aren't displacing him the way he

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<v Speaker 1>impacts guys with one arm, Like you can see guys

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<v Speaker 1>being moved when he reaches out and just pushes them

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<v Speaker 1>with one hand, which is a sign of heavy hands,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a great trait to have for an old lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, so you have the reach blocks, play side,

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<v Speaker 1>running left, and those are great, but man, when he

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<v Speaker 1>has to run to the right and reach a three

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<v Speaker 1>technique and cut him off to seal the backside. The

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<v Speaker 1>way he can extend that left arm, engage the defender

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<v Speaker 1>and then run down the line before working to reattach.

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<v Speaker 2>It is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. We're going to point back to that on some

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<v Speaker 1>big runs this year. I almost guarantee it. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like the way you look. I guarantee it. And on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, the ability to pop a hip open

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<v Speaker 1>and move at that size is so impressive. What I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by that is you get a twist off the

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<v Speaker 1>edge right where then edge slants inside and squeezes that

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<v Speaker 1>guard and makes the tackle kind of squeeze in tight

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<v Speaker 1>to the guard as well. And then here comes the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle looping around the edge. You have to then

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<v Speaker 1>get with and depth and you know, drop step back

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<v Speaker 1>with your left foot, open up that hip and move

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<v Speaker 1>that direction quickly to match that move. And when he

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<v Speaker 1>does that, it's not labored at all, and most guys

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<v Speaker 1>his size Phil Loadholt are very labored in that movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Here comes Cameron Wake around the outside, he gets around Shanko,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets around Loadholt and he knocks that football loose

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<v Speaker 2>before Britt started to throwing loosen. It kind of comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to this for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, these guys have the tape right, Butch has

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<v Speaker 1>been through these reps a million times. Smith, McDaniel, all

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<v Speaker 1>these guys have seen this and made determinations based off

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<v Speaker 1>what they saw on those reps. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>two things that led to the most losses for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Every player has losses right to me, are extremely correctable.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the technique refining something he and the staff

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge is in an area of growth for him as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>and he definitely had that in year one and then

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<v Speaker 1>just sometimes not having the correct landmark or man to block.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a tough offense man.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of sign adjustments, different landmarks that change on

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<v Speaker 1>the fly, and as a first year player is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be seeing some of these concepts for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>The time and seasoning go a long way to shoring

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<v Speaker 1>that up for a player. So if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>developing a player, I'd much rather have those to overcome

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<v Speaker 1>than is he strong enough, is he quick enough? Does

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<v Speaker 1>he have an NFL traits? The answers to those questions

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<v Speaker 1>with Pat are resounding yes. I cannot wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>how this plays out for him. I'm fascinated by this

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<v Speaker 1>entire experiment. I'm pretty confident he'll become a dude in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. It might be in year three or four,

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<v Speaker 1>and this might be like what you get from what

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<v Speaker 1>you got from Austin and his like breakout year, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it gets better and better from there. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get there eventually. I just don't know if it

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<v Speaker 1>happens right away. Game one might be a tall ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe by the playoffs he's rocking and rolling at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Paul is going to be a very good offensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle when that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite sure. Last thing on him.

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<v Speaker 1>If Daniels is the left guard, I think that move

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<v Speaker 1>The move that gave him the most problems is the

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<v Speaker 1>upfield rush cross face move. That's where the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>having a strong post can help any tackles. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>is Patrick Paul, James Daniels, and Aaron Brewer for one

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<v Speaker 1>of the better left sides, hopefully in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go ahead and.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a break, come back and do two more player

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<v Speaker 1>prospects or prospect profiles. Nick e Man Worry and Derek Harmon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all next Draft Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by Autn'tation. Now I believe I said

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<v Speaker 1>these were the final two prospect profiles we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do in this level of depth. I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a my guy's list later on probably

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<v Speaker 1>next week, and run down, like my favorite players across

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<v Speaker 1>the entire draft rounds one through seven.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do a mock draft as well. It's drafts.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a man like, We're gonna be doing all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for a couple of weeks here, and I should

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<v Speaker 1>say we need to do one more deep dive on

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<v Speaker 1>Will Johnson because I think cornerback is very much in

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<v Speaker 1>play in that first round and he could be on

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<v Speaker 1>the board there, so we should take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Michigan cornerback. But I have two more guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I think are spoiler targets in a trade situation, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am very much intrigued by the idea of a

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<v Speaker 1>trade down. We'll cover what that might look like as

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<v Speaker 1>well on a future podcast. You get the mock draft,

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<v Speaker 1>the my Guys segment, trade down options and partners and

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<v Speaker 1>what that might look like, the two Kyle Krabs episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty of fun stuff coming away here on the Draft

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<v Speaker 1>Time podcast before April twenty fourth, when the Dolphins pick

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth as of now schedule to pick that spot come

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five night one of the draft. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about two more players. We'll do a player

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<v Speaker 1>than a break than our last player, and we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Nick e Man Worry here, the South Carolina safety

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<v Speaker 1>number seven for the game Cocks. And the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that jumps off watching his tape is how he plays

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<v Speaker 1>the run from depth. And if you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty four team, we talked about all the

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<v Speaker 1>issues of Dolphins had blocking off the edge, the run game,

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<v Speaker 1>the negative runs on offense. I would say one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest downfalls of the defense was the ability of

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<v Speaker 1>the safeties to play the run from depth or just

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<v Speaker 1>tackle in the middle of the field in general. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get that part of your football team,

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<v Speaker 1>better you draft this guy. I learned a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>this rewatch of Eman Worry and this deep dive, because

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that stands out is the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I watch from safeties, how do they approach piles

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<v Speaker 1>that are forming but haven't yet been ruled down. They're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stood up in a standstill. You get the

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the original version of the toush push where

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<v Speaker 1>guys try to push from the backside the defense tries

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<v Speaker 1>to pull it down from the front side. But how

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<v Speaker 1>does the defender approach a pile like that? Do they

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<v Speaker 1>come in and patty cake it and just touch the

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<v Speaker 1>back of it and say, okay, we're good here, or

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<v Speaker 1>do they run through it trying to be a Miley

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<v Speaker 1>Cyrus And Eman Worry is the latter. In fact, his

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<v Speaker 1>dad might be Billy Ray Cyrus. In fact, everything about

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<v Speaker 1>how he plays the run or just comes downhill from

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<v Speaker 1>depth in general is fantastic. So the way a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of modern defense is played is those two high pre

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<v Speaker 1>snap presentations where you have two players, you know, ten

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen, sometimes twenty yards off the football, and then

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<v Speaker 1>one of those safeties has converted check. Sometimes it's defined,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's making a read like if he has a

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<v Speaker 1>tight end or running back to his side of the formation,

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<v Speaker 1>to his responsibility and they stay in to block, he

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<v Speaker 1>can then convert to a robber who can crash on

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<v Speaker 1>drag routes, over routes and just kind of hang out

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<v Speaker 1>in zones and kind of pluck the football the quarterback's

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<v Speaker 1>eyes from those positions and in those different zone packages.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching I Man Worry, you see tons of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>we ran a lot of that in the first year

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<v Speaker 1>under Anthony Weaver. He almost always aligns to the short

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<v Speaker 1>side of the field, the boundary, right boundary, field boundaries,

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<v Speaker 1>the short hash mark the field is the wide side

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<v Speaker 1>of the field, and would fly up on run plays.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the kicker.

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<v Speaker 1>He has the length and the change of direction and

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<v Speaker 1>the straight line speed to then get back into the

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<v Speaker 1>hook zone and impact your passing lanes. In coverage, his

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<v Speaker 1>depth of range is just better than most guys because

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<v Speaker 1>he's built like a linebacker but runs like a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 1>So that, paired with how he hits and how he

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<v Speaker 1>makes you feel his presence, are very, very intriguing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a great option to have ten yards down the field

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<v Speaker 1>when the offense blocks one up perfectly and springs their

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<v Speaker 1>back for a one on one chance against your safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he does not lose many of those reps, and

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<v Speaker 1>again we lost tons of those reps last year, both

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<v Speaker 1>against receivers and running backs alike. There are reps all

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<v Speaker 1>over his tape where he looks like a scrape linebacker

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.440
<v Speaker 1>where he comes down behind a block, reads it, shoots

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<v Speaker 1>the gap, and makes the play in tight quarters through

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<v Speaker 1>the trash. He honestly, again is a linebacker in some

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<v Speaker 1>respects with just freaky, freaky athletic traits a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>what he does inside the ten yard box, but then

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<v Speaker 1>can outrun your best athlete one hundred yards down the

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<v Speaker 1>field like if if it all clicks for him, He's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you want in an NFL player in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, his coverage and middle slash intermediate field impact.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't walk up into the press into press or

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<v Speaker 1>even have a lot of man opportunities, but when he

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<v Speaker 1>did that, the player was pretty much an afterthought in

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<v Speaker 1>the passing progression because like, well, it's usually a lumbering

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<v Speaker 1>tight end and I'm not throwing at that matchup either

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<v Speaker 1>from the quarterback, Like I'm not going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>five to one tight end against a four to four

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>safety who's bigger than him. So it's just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing, right, But I wanted to see him tested

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<v Speaker 1>more than he was in those spots. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>rep in the game versus Clemson where they jam two

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>wideouts into the boundary and the college boundary is such

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<v Speaker 1>a small plot of real estate, right because the hash

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<v Speaker 1>marks are wider, But they wind up peeling a cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>back and both players have a deep quarter of the

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<v Speaker 1>field in the short area of the field, and the

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>receiver fakes a crosser and Eman Worry is able to

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<v Speaker 1>drive on it and take it away. But it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a double move, so he takes away the first potential throw,

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>which wasn't going to be a throw, but for him,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know that because he's a defensive player. And

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>then he can flip the hips and run back vertical

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 1>down the field and matches this this double move takeoff route.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's rare athletic traits you saw him measure with

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<v Speaker 1>his testing this season as well, fluid hips, great straight

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 1>line speed. I mean the ras the relative Athletic scorecard.

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<v Speaker 1>His lowest percent tile finish was ninety fifth percent tile

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and that he was in weight. So he moves at

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<v Speaker 1>ninety ninth percentile in vert and broad and forty time

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and ninety fifth in weight, ninety eighth in height. That is,

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>he's a different player. But they'd align him to the

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>short side of the field and let him rob crossing routes,

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>step downhill on quarterback runs as a quasi spy in

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<v Speaker 1>that second level. I think if you drafted him, he

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<v Speaker 1>and Ifi can do a lot of the same things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there would be an ability to have

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<v Speaker 1>both them on the field and make them interchangeable the

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<v Speaker 1>way that Poyer and Hyde were in Buffalo for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>because both guys could play in the post. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he can play as a twenty yards off the ball,

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, center field safety. I think when you have

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<v Speaker 1>one of these players, you don't play them in the

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<v Speaker 1>post because you want their skill sets closer to the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. But if you have two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can get really creative. Remember if he was

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<v Speaker 1>the same in terms of his athletic ability coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of college. So I think it would be short sided

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<v Speaker 1>to say that neither could play in the post.

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<v Speaker 2>I think both of them can do it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm getting into some of the coverage reps,

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<v Speaker 1>and his length and press ability is there on the tape,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if we're talking about backs, tight ends and slot specialists.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're not gonna line up Brax and Barrios against

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<v Speaker 1>him and win.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just not gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not also not gonna ask him to do

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<v Speaker 1>what Jialen Ramsey does and go cover Garrett Wilson on

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<v Speaker 1>one side of the field. But if you've got nicky

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<v Speaker 1>man worry, you can go say, hey, Cole Beasley, you're

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<v Speaker 1>Donezo xavier 'streppo. You're Dounzo in the spot, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can match up on those guys with this player because

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>he is faster and stronger than them. Like this rap

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<v Speaker 1>against Texas A and M where he comes down into

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<v Speaker 1>the slot with the motion so they motioned the player

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<v Speaker 1>over and he follows him to go cover from a

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<v Speaker 1>rotation standpoint, he beats the whip route to the perimeter

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>and like cuts down the potential like throat to the flat,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when that receiver puts a foot in the

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<v Speaker 1>ground and changes direction back inside on the little whip route,

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>jerk route, whatever you call it, he turns back underside

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the underside of it and undercuts it and gets a

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<v Speaker 1>pass breakup. So I think the coverage skills are there

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but the zone aspect of his game to me,

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<v Speaker 1>is the best part of his game. Like the game

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 1>changing play against Clemson to win the game last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They run this deep over route from the strength of

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<v Speaker 1>the formation and he picks it up and runs into

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the end zone. To me, it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like the primary throw for the quarterback, but he takes

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<v Speaker 1>it away. They wind up with a pick and a

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<v Speaker 1>big win over their N State rivals. I think a

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>trade down for nick Eman worry is one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite potential outcomes from this year's class. We'll cover what

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<v Speaker 1>some of those might look like on an episode later

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<v Speaker 1>this week or next week, but in the meantime, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and take our last break come back and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about another big player in the trenches. Derek Harmon,

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<v Speaker 1>the Organ defensive tackle, will break down his game next

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Time Podcast brought to you by Auto Nation. Our

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>penultimate prospect profile takes us to the Pacific Northwest Eugene,

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<v Speaker 1>organ to watch Derek Harmon, number fifty five, the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle for the Ducks. Off the top, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most productive players at any position in all of college

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>football last year. Five sacks, eleven TFLs. He batted down

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 1>four passes, he forced and recovered two fumbles. He had

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five quarterback pressures eighteen total QB hits. Oregon list

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<v Speaker 1>him at six five three point thirty, but his combine

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>measurement was six four and a half three point thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to see what he weighs in for football,

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<v Speaker 1>because we often know that a lot of these guys

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>like to drop weight for the track testing. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think he can be a three hundred and twenty five

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>pound like nose tackle who can play it all the

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>way out to the five technique. He ran a blazing

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<v Speaker 1>four nine to five, good for eighty eighth percent tile

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<v Speaker 1>among defensive tackles, and at those sizes, that's ninetieth and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty second percent tile in height and weight. If you

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<v Speaker 1>bump him back up to three hundred and thirty pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about ninety eight percent tile and weight. So

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<v Speaker 1>a really good athlete mover. He's a first round pick

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<v Speaker 1>all day long. As far as the tape and the

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>alignment and usage. I'm three reps into his tape and

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<v Speaker 1>it went like this two technique thwart a double team

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and be part of the tackle. In the running game

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>against Ashton. Gent by the way, gent five technique, throw

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the tight end over to Corvallis on the opposite side

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>of the state, make the play at the line of scrimmage.

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Then a three technique beat the guard upfield on a

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>one gap slant rush and string the running back out

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>for a loss. Once again, it was gent.

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>He could.

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>He continued to rotate across the formation. You play the

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>nose tackle, play the four head up over an offensive tackle.

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>He can play every position from the zero right over

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the center, all the way out to the five technique

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>outside the right tackle left tackle combination. There his length,

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>power and get off combination, all those stuff, the first

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>step quickness, the way he impacts guys with his length

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and power. Maybe I'm not paying close enough attention, but

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>this guy is the one who belongs in the confident conversation.

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>To me, with Grant, with Kenneth Grant and Mason Graham,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like I'm not seeing a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>that out there in the draft landscape. This might be

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<v Speaker 1>the best block deconstruction defensive tackle in the entire draft. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks similar to how Zach Steeler plays in the

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>sense that from a four point stance, fire out of

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<v Speaker 1>your stands, shock the man and really translay all that

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>weight from your feet all the way up through your

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders and push him back that way, control him with

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<v Speaker 1>a two arm stab stack peak the flow of the play,

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>push pull, disengage that blocker, and then run the ball

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>carrier down. Very easy to see why he led all

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>college defensive linemen and TFLs at three hundred and thirty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>This makes you think that you can utilize him as

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<v Speaker 1>a nose tackle when needed. He didn't do much of

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it at Oregon, but he has the makeup and technique

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Man, there are so many reps where

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>he's doing the Darth Vader choke where like obviously not telepathic,

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>like he actually connects with the guy, but where he

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>locks him out with one arm, holds off the frame

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and then tosses him aside pure power from this guy,

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and he can move while he's doing that, kind of

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about with how Patrick Paul does on

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the offensive side. What's crazy is he actually has a

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>ton of missed tackles. Now, when a defensive tackle blows

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<v Speaker 1>through the line of scrimmage and has a running back

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<v Speaker 1>in space three yards behind the line of scrimmage and

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<v Speaker 1>he misses, and then his teammates rally and make the TfL.

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<v Speaker 1>I still think it's a tremendous play that you give

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<v Speaker 1>the most credit to the guy that broke through originally,

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<v Speaker 1>and that happens a few times for this guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just speaks to how gaudy his numbers could have been.

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<v Speaker 1>This dude is reaching the par five greens on two

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<v Speaker 1>shots every single time he plays a par five, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's just not always converting the birdy putt. He misses

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<v Speaker 1>his putts, his tackles in the backfield, his pass rush.

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<v Speaker 1>While he can't play the five technique, there's not enough

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<v Speaker 1>juice there to be an eye actual impact edge rusher,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'd rather have him slant across face and try

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<v Speaker 1>to go after a guard inside or be part of

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<v Speaker 1>games and stunts off the edge. He's just not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>beat guys with bend and arc around the corner. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's three hundred and thirty pounds he shouldn't be expected

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. So when he can rush the guard

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<v Speaker 1>and use his length more so than a pass rush

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<v Speaker 1>like Arsenal with bend off the edge, that suits his

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<v Speaker 1>skill sets. But damn it if the value of having

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<v Speaker 1>him play base edge and then kicking inside is a

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<v Speaker 1>rusher on top of all the base down stuff he

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<v Speaker 1>can do inside two, I think you can load up

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<v Speaker 1>his plate with snaps and responsibilities from year one. The

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<v Speaker 1>best of all, he's a monster when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>setting picks and running games, which is what this defense

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<v Speaker 1>does so well, and you have to always evaluate that

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<v Speaker 1>when watching players for this defense.

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<v Speaker 2>We run as much games as anybody in the NFL.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>And that first step quickness, with that power and size,

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what makes Zach Sealer so great. It's a lot

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>like him in terms of how it impacts your interior pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's before we get to the communication aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>how that pairs with Brooks and Gay and Iffy and

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<v Speaker 1>on and on and on. Gosh, his pad level and

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<v Speaker 1>his leg drive are so damn good. He's powerful, powerful, powerful,

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>technically sound and everything he does the hands too. He

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<v Speaker 1>can really use the hands to rip through tight seams,

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<v Speaker 1>to reset the offensive line, to shed, to do all

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<v Speaker 1>of it. The conversation to me between he and Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>Grant is an interesting one. I just think the mistackle

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<v Speaker 1>thing that keeps showing up is probably what knocks him

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<v Speaker 1>down a peg from those top two guys. He just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't always finish for whatever reason, and that and not

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<v Speaker 1>a true pass rush skill are kind of my knocks

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<v Speaker 1>on him. But I don't think you're drafting him for

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<v Speaker 1>that second part. We do have to finish tackles better

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<v Speaker 1>than he does, and so with one player left to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Johnson, I'll see where I stack him after this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to watch him more in depth before

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<v Speaker 1>I give an evaluation. My board as of today for

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<v Speaker 1>pick thirteen would be Tyler, and this is among guys

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<v Speaker 1>that have a chance to get there. I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Abdull Carter, Travis Hunter would be Tyler, Warren Jaday Baron,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a change from my last update. I had

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<v Speaker 1>Grant over him, then Kenneth Grant. Then I have a

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<v Speaker 1>line and this is my trade back potential options. Nicky

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<v Speaker 1>man worry is first, then Malachi Starks think Eman Warrior's

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>upside is higher, which makes more sense for the first

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>round to me, and then Derek Harmon brings up the rear.

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<v Speaker 1>But I like all these players, and I think Will

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson probably finds himself either on the plus side of

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<v Speaker 1>that trade back idea or just on the first part

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<v Speaker 1>of the underside. We shall see when I watch that tape.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's gonna do it for my time here on

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of the Draft Time Podcast Friday. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure exactly what the show is going to look like.

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<v Speaker 1>I have like twelve segments planned for you guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to organize them. But mock draft coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>My guys will break down some film on the thirty visits.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do a deep dive in the safety position, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some trade down scenarios. All of that coming away

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