1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:26,988 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. Good Morning Football. Hey everyone, and welcome 3 00:00:27,028 --> 00:00:29,308 Speaker 1: to Good Morning Football. Not Peter Schregar today as we 4 00:00:29,308 --> 00:00:31,468 Speaker 1: sit in New York City, May third names, Kay Adams, 5 00:00:31,508 --> 00:00:34,588 Speaker 1: Kyle Brand, Superbrow, chub In Sean. Oh h rah, good 6 00:00:34,628 --> 00:00:39,788 Speaker 1: morning k KB. The Three Amigos right now? Can we 7 00:00:39,828 --> 00:00:42,188 Speaker 1: do the dance? Do you know it? The Three Amigos 8 00:00:42,948 --> 00:00:47,388 Speaker 1: I teach teach story. Huh huh huh. That's right there 9 00:00:47,468 --> 00:00:51,468 Speaker 1: you go. It's funds to it. We got big news 10 00:00:51,508 --> 00:00:54,108 Speaker 1: out of the desert just yesterday. Oh, not great news 11 00:00:54,188 --> 00:00:57,748 Speaker 1: at all, three time all for wide receiver Undrapkins suspended. 12 00:00:57,988 --> 00:01:00,148 Speaker 1: To get all the details, we turned to our NFL 13 00:01:00,268 --> 00:01:05,468 Speaker 1: network insider Ian Rapper for what happened here. Wow, the 14 00:01:05,508 --> 00:01:08,108 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are going to be without their best receiver 15 00:01:08,268 --> 00:01:11,268 Speaker 1: for the first six games of the twenty twenty two season. 16 00:01:11,428 --> 00:01:15,468 Speaker 1: A significant development for Arizona late yesterday when the NFL 17 00:01:15,468 --> 00:01:19,428 Speaker 1: announced that star DeAndre Hopkins, one of the most dependable 18 00:01:19,508 --> 00:01:23,228 Speaker 1: receivers in the entire NFL for nearly a decade, has 19 00:01:23,268 --> 00:01:27,828 Speaker 1: been suspended six games for violating the NFL's PD policy. 20 00:01:27,988 --> 00:01:30,588 Speaker 1: My understanding is this has been looming for the Cardinals 21 00:01:30,708 --> 00:01:34,308 Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins for many, many months. On Monday, he 22 00:01:34,428 --> 00:01:38,388 Speaker 1: decided to drop his appeal and officially accept the suspension. 23 00:01:38,508 --> 00:01:41,828 Speaker 1: That is why he is now out six games, loses 24 00:01:41,868 --> 00:01:45,028 Speaker 1: more than four million dollars in salary from his seventeen 25 00:01:45,108 --> 00:01:47,468 Speaker 1: million dollars per year that he was due to make 26 00:01:47,588 --> 00:01:50,068 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Of course, of the Arizona Cardinals. 27 00:01:50,108 --> 00:01:52,748 Speaker 1: It also gives some context to the big trade for 28 00:01:52,908 --> 00:01:56,708 Speaker 1: Mrquise Hollywood Brown. They have several other weapons despite losing 29 00:01:56,828 --> 00:02:00,628 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk in free agency, but no doubt a significant 30 00:02:00,748 --> 00:02:05,588 Speaker 1: blow for the Cardinals and quarterback Kyler Murray. Right, Annie, 31 00:02:05,588 --> 00:02:08,228 Speaker 1: and appreciate you. Probably not a coincidence they've brought in 32 00:02:08,628 --> 00:02:12,308 Speaker 1: Marquis DeAndre Hopkins releasing this lengthy statement last night, reading, 33 00:02:12,668 --> 00:02:15,428 Speaker 1: in my ten year NFL career, I have never tested 34 00:02:15,508 --> 00:02:19,188 Speaker 1: positive for using performance enhancing drugs. To learn that my 35 00:02:19,308 --> 00:02:22,068 Speaker 1: November test came back with trace elements of the band substance, 36 00:02:22,108 --> 00:02:25,388 Speaker 1: I was confused and shocked. I'm very mindful of what 37 00:02:25,428 --> 00:02:27,068 Speaker 1: I put in my body, and I've always taken a 38 00:02:27,108 --> 00:02:30,348 Speaker 1: holistic approach, so I'm working with my team to investigate 39 00:02:30,388 --> 00:02:33,028 Speaker 1: how this could have happened. But even as careful as 40 00:02:33,068 --> 00:02:36,188 Speaker 1: I have been, clearly I wasn't careful enough for that. 41 00:02:36,468 --> 00:02:39,468 Speaker 1: I apologize to Cardinal fans, my teammates, and the entire 42 00:02:39,508 --> 00:02:42,628 Speaker 1: Cardinals organization. I never want to let my team down. 43 00:02:42,828 --> 00:02:44,628 Speaker 1: I fully intend to get to the bottom of this, 44 00:02:44,748 --> 00:02:47,588 Speaker 1: and as soon as I have more information, I will 45 00:02:47,908 --> 00:02:53,748 Speaker 1: share it. Lots to unpack here, loaded NFC West, loaded team, 46 00:02:53,868 --> 00:02:57,068 Speaker 1: lots of dramas, sort of a mess there in Arizona. 47 00:02:57,188 --> 00:03:00,268 Speaker 1: What do we make of the suspension and Deandre's response 48 00:03:00,348 --> 00:03:02,548 Speaker 1: to it. The whole story sucks. I hate this. It's 49 00:03:02,548 --> 00:03:04,908 Speaker 1: a huge buzz kill. It's a huge party file, especially 50 00:03:04,908 --> 00:03:06,068 Speaker 1: I think for Arizona. There was a lot of good 51 00:03:06,108 --> 00:03:08,148 Speaker 1: will going out with Arizona. They had kind of gotten 52 00:03:08,268 --> 00:03:10,788 Speaker 1: through the Kyler mess and the sky wasn't fallen anymore, 53 00:03:10,828 --> 00:03:12,948 Speaker 1: and the draft just happened as a time of optimism 54 00:03:12,988 --> 00:03:15,988 Speaker 1: and now this massive, massive record scratch. I'm not shocked 55 00:03:15,988 --> 00:03:17,828 Speaker 1: by the story. I will never be shocked by any 56 00:03:17,908 --> 00:03:20,548 Speaker 1: athlete who test positive for this stuff, especially when who's 57 00:03:20,548 --> 00:03:23,268 Speaker 1: pushing thirty and coming off an injury, and you know, 58 00:03:23,388 --> 00:03:25,788 Speaker 1: gives a kind of a paint by the numbers response 59 00:03:25,828 --> 00:03:27,588 Speaker 1: that we've seen for many times from many athletes in 60 00:03:27,628 --> 00:03:31,548 Speaker 1: many sports. But for me, it's DeAndre did or what 61 00:03:31,708 --> 00:03:34,068 Speaker 1: he did. This is a Kyler Murray story to me, 62 00:03:34,468 --> 00:03:37,028 Speaker 1: as as we go to the thirty thousand foot view 63 00:03:37,028 --> 00:03:40,268 Speaker 1: across the league, this happened. He's good. You're gonna be 64 00:03:40,268 --> 00:03:42,428 Speaker 1: without him again. There's a symmetry here. You were without 65 00:03:42,468 --> 00:03:44,468 Speaker 1: him last year and everyone talked about how the team 66 00:03:44,508 --> 00:03:47,228 Speaker 1: fell apart didn't have him. Look I tend to look 67 00:03:47,268 --> 00:03:48,828 Speaker 1: at this as a silver line. I think this is 68 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:51,708 Speaker 1: an opportunity for Kyler Murray, for Kyler Murray to say, 69 00:03:51,988 --> 00:03:54,468 Speaker 1: all right, let's go. I got this. I'm the leader 70 00:03:54,468 --> 00:03:56,468 Speaker 1: of this team. We lost DeAndre, We're going to get 71 00:03:56,548 --> 00:03:58,468 Speaker 1: him back. When in the meantime, everybody get on my back. 72 00:03:58,988 --> 00:04:01,548 Speaker 1: You know the Rams, they lost Robert Woods last year. 73 00:04:01,588 --> 00:04:04,268 Speaker 1: One of the most important players, Aaron Rodgers went into 74 00:04:04,388 --> 00:04:07,948 Speaker 1: Arizona last year in primetime without Davante Adams and he won, 75 00:04:08,148 --> 00:04:09,748 Speaker 1: and he won at the end of the game. The 76 00:04:09,868 --> 00:04:12,548 Speaker 1: good Ones don't need their star wide receiver to go 77 00:04:12,708 --> 00:04:14,348 Speaker 1: and to win and to do what they need to do. 78 00:04:15,028 --> 00:04:17,668 Speaker 1: Kyler I would look at this in another venue that 79 00:04:17,748 --> 00:04:20,788 Speaker 1: you like video games. Call of Duty, buddy, you lost 80 00:04:20,868 --> 00:04:23,228 Speaker 1: your sniper rifle. What are you gonna do? You can't 81 00:04:23,348 --> 00:04:25,668 Speaker 1: just camp. You gotta go in and be a marauder. 82 00:04:25,748 --> 00:04:28,068 Speaker 1: You gotta lead, You gotta say I got this. If 83 00:04:28,068 --> 00:04:30,228 Speaker 1: we're listening with losing for six games, we're gonna go 84 00:04:30,308 --> 00:04:31,708 Speaker 1: four and two, We're gonna go five and one, We're 85 00:04:31,708 --> 00:04:33,628 Speaker 1: gonna six and oz. Because I'm Kyle Murray and I'm 86 00:04:33,668 --> 00:04:35,588 Speaker 1: the star of this team, I would love to see 87 00:04:35,588 --> 00:04:36,788 Speaker 1: that from him, and I hope we do. It's a 88 00:04:36,908 --> 00:04:40,068 Speaker 1: terrible loss. DeAndre is great, but this is not the team. 89 00:04:40,148 --> 00:04:41,908 Speaker 1: There's not sink the entire team, but you lost a 90 00:04:41,908 --> 00:04:43,428 Speaker 1: wide up for six weeks. I want to see some 91 00:04:43,508 --> 00:04:45,708 Speaker 1: fire and some leadership. Fro Kyler. I think I'm not 92 00:04:45,748 --> 00:04:50,028 Speaker 1: like a Coo kills, right, That's how it goes eight 93 00:04:50,148 --> 00:04:52,148 Speaker 1: kills to start the season, eight and l then it 94 00:04:52,268 --> 00:04:54,308 Speaker 1: was one and four without DeAndre Hopkins. We saw what 95 00:04:54,388 --> 00:04:55,868 Speaker 1: it looked like. What makes you think he can do 96 00:04:55,948 --> 00:04:59,708 Speaker 1: it well? Hollywood helps, Hollywood helps, Another year of maturity helps. 97 00:04:59,868 --> 00:05:02,268 Speaker 1: I think sitting back and listening for an entire offseason 98 00:05:02,308 --> 00:05:05,148 Speaker 1: about how dude, you lost DeAndre? You guys were terrible. 99 00:05:05,188 --> 00:05:06,788 Speaker 1: That's the worst play afum I'm ever saying. I would 100 00:05:06,828 --> 00:05:09,948 Speaker 1: hope that helps. Kyler Murray is a competitor. He's heard 101 00:05:10,028 --> 00:05:11,828 Speaker 1: that he is out. I'm taking a lot of crap 102 00:05:11,948 --> 00:05:14,308 Speaker 1: this offseason, and now it's like, oh my gosh, I 103 00:05:14,428 --> 00:05:15,628 Speaker 1: had to hear a whole off season and I can't 104 00:05:15,628 --> 00:05:17,828 Speaker 1: play about the Andre. Now I have to play without 105 00:05:17,908 --> 00:05:19,948 Speaker 1: Dandrey again, and I'm gonna make those people eat it. 106 00:05:20,108 --> 00:05:24,228 Speaker 1: He's not heaving an extension help or hurt help because now, dude, 107 00:05:24,268 --> 00:05:25,988 Speaker 1: you go out there and you get those kills without 108 00:05:26,068 --> 00:05:28,428 Speaker 1: your best weapon, pay him and maybe pay him in 109 00:05:28,428 --> 00:05:30,948 Speaker 1: the middle of the season. Yeah, for Kyler, this could 110 00:05:30,988 --> 00:05:32,508 Speaker 1: definitely work out. I love that we're going call of 111 00:05:32,588 --> 00:05:35,228 Speaker 1: duty right now. But I feel like I'm sure producers 112 00:05:35,268 --> 00:05:37,748 Speaker 1: doing Kyler Murray and Gang they were handing out dirt 113 00:05:37,868 --> 00:05:40,668 Speaker 1: naps for the attempt for the first and eleven wins 114 00:05:40,708 --> 00:05:42,668 Speaker 1: going on, And I think I think Steve con right 115 00:05:42,668 --> 00:05:44,388 Speaker 1: now feels like he's in Nuketown, all right. He's in 116 00:05:44,468 --> 00:05:46,308 Speaker 1: Nuketown right now, and he just called it an airstrike 117 00:05:46,348 --> 00:05:49,228 Speaker 1: in Hollywood Brows to help him out, but he just 118 00:05:49,348 --> 00:05:51,308 Speaker 1: lost his sniper. He lost, and he lost another guy. 119 00:05:51,308 --> 00:05:53,428 Speaker 1: I think for DeAndre Hopkins, this is a bit of 120 00:05:53,468 --> 00:05:56,028 Speaker 1: a shock to me just because of the type of 121 00:05:56,108 --> 00:05:58,068 Speaker 1: guy that he has been his entire career. He's always 122 00:05:58,108 --> 00:06:00,028 Speaker 1: been a guy that has a wide receiver, has been 123 00:06:00,028 --> 00:06:02,748 Speaker 1: a little bit quiet. He's not he's not complaining about 124 00:06:02,788 --> 00:06:04,868 Speaker 1: not getting the football. He's not going it's the team. 125 00:06:04,908 --> 00:06:08,228 Speaker 1: He's not rocking the boat, not making any waves. And 126 00:06:08,668 --> 00:06:11,468 Speaker 1: yet Kyle to your point, Yeah, like this, this happened 127 00:06:11,508 --> 00:06:14,748 Speaker 1: in November when he got hurt, so guys want to 128 00:06:14,748 --> 00:06:16,388 Speaker 1: get back in the field. Things kind of make you 129 00:06:16,788 --> 00:06:18,548 Speaker 1: kind of look at it like a little bit differently. 130 00:06:18,668 --> 00:06:21,468 Speaker 1: I would have never believed DeAndre Hopkins would have gotten 131 00:06:21,508 --> 00:06:24,348 Speaker 1: whacked for this because, number one, he's already so darn good. 132 00:06:24,388 --> 00:06:26,868 Speaker 1: He doesn't need any help. I mean, he's already rising 133 00:06:26,908 --> 00:06:30,628 Speaker 1: above everybody. But I think when I look at what 134 00:06:30,828 --> 00:06:34,108 Speaker 1: this means now for not just de Hoop, for Kyler 135 00:06:34,188 --> 00:06:36,628 Speaker 1: Murray to your point, this is big right now. And 136 00:06:36,828 --> 00:06:39,868 Speaker 1: I think everybody when you have a star player like that, 137 00:06:40,188 --> 00:06:42,308 Speaker 1: you kind of lean on him and that's your crutch, 138 00:06:42,908 --> 00:06:44,228 Speaker 1: and then when he's taken away, you don't know how 139 00:06:44,268 --> 00:06:46,028 Speaker 1: to respond. You don't know how to win games without it, 140 00:06:46,108 --> 00:06:48,588 Speaker 1: So you know, maybe in the long run Kyler will 141 00:06:48,628 --> 00:06:51,508 Speaker 1: be better because of this. But I know Ford hop this. 142 00:06:51,668 --> 00:06:53,068 Speaker 1: This is tough. I will say this. I thought the 143 00:06:53,108 --> 00:06:56,668 Speaker 1: wording was very interesting, like if this happens and I'm 144 00:06:56,668 --> 00:06:59,188 Speaker 1: a player, okay, and I've got to come out and 145 00:06:59,228 --> 00:07:01,188 Speaker 1: make a statement, and I'm trying to get everybody to 146 00:07:01,308 --> 00:07:04,588 Speaker 1: believe that this is erroneous. I didn't do this. I'm 147 00:07:04,588 --> 00:07:08,068 Speaker 1: not going to say I've never tested positive during my tenure. 148 00:07:08,148 --> 00:07:12,108 Speaker 1: I'm gonna no, no, I've never taken anything like not like, hey, 149 00:07:12,148 --> 00:07:14,508 Speaker 1: I've never been caught in the last So that kind 150 00:07:14,548 --> 00:07:17,428 Speaker 1: of like me for a little loop. They needed an 151 00:07:17,508 --> 00:07:20,348 Speaker 1: eight and o start to their season to get a 152 00:07:20,388 --> 00:07:23,388 Speaker 1: playoff spot. They needed that to happen. They wouldn't have one, 153 00:07:23,428 --> 00:07:26,228 Speaker 1: so that's going to have to happen again. So maybe 154 00:07:26,268 --> 00:07:28,868 Speaker 1: the silver lining is that it's just six games. It's 155 00:07:28,868 --> 00:07:31,308 Speaker 1: a longer season, Kyle and you can get back and 156 00:07:31,428 --> 00:07:33,068 Speaker 1: they can get it done. But this is a bit 157 00:07:33,108 --> 00:07:34,588 Speaker 1: of a mess. I don't know that they work through 158 00:07:34,628 --> 00:07:38,788 Speaker 1: the Kyler thing because extensions again better Maybe Steve Kim 159 00:07:38,948 --> 00:07:40,628 Speaker 1: had to address and he's going to have to address 160 00:07:40,668 --> 00:07:43,388 Speaker 1: it over and over again. He did so on Serious 161 00:07:43,548 --> 00:07:48,668 Speaker 1: XM's Mad Dog Radio yesterday. Yeah, and Adam, many time 162 00:07:48,748 --> 00:07:52,788 Speaker 1: you've seen UM quarterbacks after their third year UM through 163 00:07:52,828 --> 00:07:56,708 Speaker 1: their contract extensions, It's generally been anywhere from about July 164 00:07:56,988 --> 00:08:00,308 Speaker 1: to September. And you know, it's it's one of those 165 00:08:00,348 --> 00:08:02,868 Speaker 1: things that we get through free agency in the draft process. 166 00:08:02,948 --> 00:08:04,788 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a lot of work we into that. 167 00:08:04,988 --> 00:08:07,468 Speaker 1: So now we can take a step back, take a breath, 168 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:10,828 Speaker 1: refocus and trying to get something done. Like I said, 169 00:08:10,908 --> 00:08:13,628 Speaker 1: Kyler is our long term future and there's no doubt 170 00:08:13,668 --> 00:08:17,668 Speaker 1: we want to have him here in Arizona. I like 171 00:08:17,828 --> 00:08:20,868 Speaker 1: hearing that overall sounds very positive on the Kyler Murray front. 172 00:08:20,868 --> 00:08:22,548 Speaker 1: We've spent a lot of time talking about this year 173 00:08:22,548 --> 00:08:24,628 Speaker 1: at the breakfast table. So if you take a step 174 00:08:24,668 --> 00:08:27,188 Speaker 1: back on key sinks, take a step back, take a breath, 175 00:08:27,308 --> 00:08:29,668 Speaker 1: and make something happen. Those are the words of Steve 176 00:08:29,748 --> 00:08:32,908 Speaker 1: Kim there, General manager, Sean, how would you just describe 177 00:08:33,388 --> 00:08:36,108 Speaker 1: in that breath the state of the Cardinals right now. 178 00:08:36,828 --> 00:08:38,988 Speaker 1: I mean, Steve Kim is doing a great job trying 179 00:08:39,028 --> 00:08:41,788 Speaker 1: to manage all this stuff, and there's distractions, there's rumors. 180 00:08:42,548 --> 00:08:44,428 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that he knows better than 181 00:08:44,428 --> 00:08:48,228 Speaker 1: anybody is like, you don't do the contract discussion through 182 00:08:48,308 --> 00:08:51,588 Speaker 1: the media. So he's saying all the right things, we 183 00:08:51,668 --> 00:08:55,348 Speaker 1: want to sign Kyler. But I think for Kime as 184 00:08:55,388 --> 00:08:57,428 Speaker 1: he's trying to build this roster and trying to put 185 00:08:57,508 --> 00:09:00,508 Speaker 1: pieces of the puzzle together. For Cliff, you know, look, 186 00:09:00,628 --> 00:09:02,428 Speaker 1: I think at some point he's going to say, look, 187 00:09:02,588 --> 00:09:05,268 Speaker 1: I'm giving you guys the assets, giving you the tools. 188 00:09:05,268 --> 00:09:06,748 Speaker 1: I went and got J. J. Watt, I went and 189 00:09:06,828 --> 00:09:08,988 Speaker 1: got d Hop last year. You guys haven't produced and 190 00:09:09,068 --> 00:09:11,708 Speaker 1: you haven't finished. So to me, the finish is the 191 00:09:11,948 --> 00:09:15,188 Speaker 1: key for the Cardinals. Finish what you started. They didn't 192 00:09:15,188 --> 00:09:19,348 Speaker 1: finished last season. Kyler, he doesn't seem like he's finishing games. 193 00:09:19,468 --> 00:09:21,748 Speaker 1: He's banged up. I know I'm listening when you could 194 00:09:21,788 --> 00:09:24,268 Speaker 1: talk to talk about Kyler Murray in the fourth quarter 195 00:09:24,468 --> 00:09:28,428 Speaker 1: last season. He threw three touchdowns all season long. I 196 00:09:28,508 --> 00:09:30,068 Speaker 1: mean some of the games, Okay, I get if you're 197 00:09:30,068 --> 00:09:31,588 Speaker 1: in the league that maybe that has part of it 198 00:09:31,748 --> 00:09:33,508 Speaker 1: so to do, but at the end of the game, 199 00:09:33,668 --> 00:09:35,948 Speaker 1: you've got to play your best. I think the biggest 200 00:09:36,028 --> 00:09:38,828 Speaker 1: challenge with d Hop right now is everybody talks about 201 00:09:38,828 --> 00:09:41,388 Speaker 1: the production and how Kyler's numbers fell off, but I 202 00:09:41,468 --> 00:09:44,988 Speaker 1: think we can't overlook that aspect of it. And at 203 00:09:45,028 --> 00:09:48,068 Speaker 1: the end of the season, Cliff Kingsbury went on record 204 00:09:48,108 --> 00:09:51,028 Speaker 1: and talked about the impact of not having d Hopkins 205 00:09:51,348 --> 00:09:53,308 Speaker 1: and how he was hoping that they wouldn't have to 206 00:09:53,388 --> 00:09:54,748 Speaker 1: deal with it in the future. Here's what he had 207 00:09:54,788 --> 00:09:57,308 Speaker 1: to sit was impactful, There's no doubt. I mean, he's 208 00:09:57,348 --> 00:10:00,108 Speaker 1: one of the top players in the entire league at 209 00:10:00,108 --> 00:10:02,868 Speaker 1: any position, and particularly in the red zone. I think 210 00:10:02,908 --> 00:10:07,148 Speaker 1: you saw some struggles there, um sorts, a touchdown percentage, 211 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:10,348 Speaker 1: things of that nature. I mean, he's a guy you 212 00:10:10,388 --> 00:10:12,348 Speaker 1: got to know where he's at as a defense each 213 00:10:12,388 --> 00:10:14,348 Speaker 1: and every snap and got to do things to try 214 00:10:14,388 --> 00:10:17,388 Speaker 1: and take him away, and that opens up other aspects 215 00:10:17,388 --> 00:10:20,828 Speaker 1: of your offense. And so, um, he's got a he's 216 00:10:20,828 --> 00:10:23,348 Speaker 1: got a big value when it comes to being on 217 00:10:23,428 --> 00:10:26,428 Speaker 1: the field, and unfortunately we didn't have him some and um, 218 00:10:26,788 --> 00:10:28,468 Speaker 1: you know, we got to learn from that and be 219 00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:31,428 Speaker 1: better the next time. You know, he happens to miss time, 220 00:10:31,428 --> 00:10:37,668 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not very often. Hopefully it's not very often. Yeah, Now, 221 00:10:38,908 --> 00:10:41,548 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that they knew that the Hopkins had 222 00:10:41,588 --> 00:10:44,508 Speaker 1: tested positive already when that all happened, because that happened 223 00:10:44,588 --> 00:10:47,028 Speaker 1: during the season and the teams all know about it. So, look, 224 00:10:47,108 --> 00:10:49,188 Speaker 1: this is something that that Cliff is You could hear 225 00:10:49,228 --> 00:10:51,188 Speaker 1: in his voice like this is tough. This is a 226 00:10:51,268 --> 00:10:54,148 Speaker 1: tough task. Um. I think for the Cardinals, this is 227 00:10:54,268 --> 00:10:56,268 Speaker 1: this is big right here, and Cliff is going to 228 00:10:56,348 --> 00:10:59,708 Speaker 1: be grinding the wheels, grinding the clock, grinding, grinding the 229 00:10:59,708 --> 00:11:01,268 Speaker 1: playbook to try to figure out how to how to 230 00:11:01,468 --> 00:11:03,908 Speaker 1: replace that production's probably be working on for a long time. 231 00:11:03,908 --> 00:11:05,668 Speaker 1: I feel like the Cardinals are on consoling right now. 232 00:11:05,948 --> 00:11:08,788 Speaker 1: You know, they're working through it. The rock Bottom it 233 00:11:08,908 --> 00:11:10,988 Speaker 1: was bad a couple months ago. If you don't remember 234 00:11:11,548 --> 00:11:13,508 Speaker 1: Kyler's doing the end of the social media wife like 235 00:11:13,788 --> 00:11:16,188 Speaker 1: there's Talkie's gonna go play baseball and video games. That 236 00:11:16,308 --> 00:11:19,108 Speaker 1: was rock bottom. That was we're filing papers, we're getting attorneys, 237 00:11:19,108 --> 00:11:22,068 Speaker 1: like this thing might be over. We were doing multiple 238 00:11:22,148 --> 00:11:24,788 Speaker 1: segments here saying who should trade for Kyler? Should they 239 00:11:24,868 --> 00:11:26,948 Speaker 1: deal Kyler? I think we're through that. I think that 240 00:11:27,028 --> 00:11:29,108 Speaker 1: they move back in together, and I think the time 241 00:11:29,188 --> 00:11:31,708 Speaker 1: going out there and saying no way will we trade him? 242 00:11:31,788 --> 00:11:33,388 Speaker 1: Zero chance. I think that helps, and I do think 243 00:11:33,428 --> 00:11:35,908 Speaker 1: Steve kind has been great through this. And also to 244 00:11:36,028 --> 00:11:39,588 Speaker 1: back to the prior question, I think actually the suspension 245 00:11:39,708 --> 00:11:42,388 Speaker 1: might help him get paid if it doesn't hurt. If 246 00:11:42,428 --> 00:11:44,868 Speaker 1: you're going into camp and we're like, oh my god, 247 00:11:44,908 --> 00:11:46,588 Speaker 1: it's Kyler maybe not going to show up and we 248 00:11:46,668 --> 00:11:48,628 Speaker 1: don't have DeAndre, Like what product are we putting on 249 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:51,668 Speaker 1: the field. Maybe we gotta give Kyler forty million bucks 250 00:11:51,748 --> 00:11:53,588 Speaker 1: a season, just get him in here, because like, we 251 00:11:53,668 --> 00:11:55,068 Speaker 1: want to go to the super Bowl this year. This 252 00:11:55,228 --> 00:11:57,548 Speaker 1: is not a building year. This is like, this is 253 00:11:57,628 --> 00:12:00,308 Speaker 1: the go time year. So in the chess match of 254 00:12:00,348 --> 00:12:02,108 Speaker 1: all of this, knowing for a fact that our star 255 00:12:02,188 --> 00:12:04,508 Speaker 1: wide receiver is out for six weeks, the idea we 256 00:12:04,628 --> 00:12:06,708 Speaker 1: might also not have our star quarterback if he holds out. 257 00:12:06,788 --> 00:12:08,348 Speaker 1: We can't handle this. I think we need to get 258 00:12:08,428 --> 00:12:10,748 Speaker 1: Kyler in here. It's like in the in the counseling 259 00:12:10,828 --> 00:12:13,548 Speaker 1: thing with Kyler and the team being the husband and wife, 260 00:12:13,628 --> 00:12:16,268 Speaker 1: like DeAndre is like the kid who like got arrested 261 00:12:16,388 --> 00:12:18,068 Speaker 1: or something, or like you know, they had issues. They 262 00:12:18,108 --> 00:12:19,668 Speaker 1: have to spend more time with them, and it can 263 00:12:19,748 --> 00:12:21,628 Speaker 1: bring you closer as a husband and wife. I think 264 00:12:21,668 --> 00:12:24,068 Speaker 1: that this actually might help Kyler in his contract. Wow. Interesting, 265 00:12:24,148 --> 00:12:26,028 Speaker 1: So going to counseling, you could end up getting a 266 00:12:26,068 --> 00:12:29,188 Speaker 1: sports car out of its race. YESO, any ideas, but 267 00:12:29,348 --> 00:12:32,268 Speaker 1: that's what ways, that's what hangs in the balance, right, Yeah, 268 00:12:32,468 --> 00:12:34,668 Speaker 1: used to continue your counseling. And now if I can 269 00:12:34,748 --> 00:12:37,348 Speaker 1: hop on please, you're in counseling. There's stuff going on. 270 00:12:37,468 --> 00:12:40,428 Speaker 1: You've got this kid, it's unruly. When you're significant other 271 00:12:40,508 --> 00:12:43,228 Speaker 1: a fighting, things are going well, you're founding some sort 272 00:12:43,268 --> 00:12:46,068 Speaker 1: of foundation, you're resolving some of these issues, and then 273 00:12:46,108 --> 00:12:48,228 Speaker 1: you find out there's a mistress that you didn't know about. 274 00:12:48,228 --> 00:12:50,068 Speaker 1: And that's what this is. I don't I can't speak 275 00:12:50,108 --> 00:12:51,668 Speaker 1: to when they found out about this. I did not 276 00:12:51,788 --> 00:12:53,788 Speaker 1: know about it until it came out with the rest 277 00:12:53,868 --> 00:12:56,628 Speaker 1: of the world yesterday, given that apology in the news 278 00:12:56,668 --> 00:12:59,428 Speaker 1: for me and Wrappaport about the suspension. But that's so 279 00:12:59,548 --> 00:13:01,588 Speaker 1: you either go two ways. You go, man, we can 280 00:13:01,628 --> 00:13:05,468 Speaker 1: get through even this, or it's unhint And what they 281 00:13:05,548 --> 00:13:09,308 Speaker 1: should see is the opportunity ahead of them in this NFC. 282 00:13:09,548 --> 00:13:12,188 Speaker 1: And I think at all. You bring up Cliff Kingsbury, 283 00:13:12,268 --> 00:13:14,268 Speaker 1: you play his sound bite, but you're not quite putting 284 00:13:14,308 --> 00:13:16,068 Speaker 1: it on his shoulders the way it needs to be 285 00:13:16,388 --> 00:13:18,668 Speaker 1: the same way you are with Kyler saying look at this, 286 00:13:18,868 --> 00:13:21,268 Speaker 1: tell everybody get on my back. When we have seen 287 00:13:21,948 --> 00:13:24,548 Speaker 1: Sean Payton take his team to the playoffs with different 288 00:13:24,628 --> 00:13:27,188 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and without Michael Thomas for the majority of the year, 289 00:13:27,228 --> 00:13:29,148 Speaker 1: when we've seen the DeVante Adams thaying, don't tell me 290 00:13:29,188 --> 00:13:31,388 Speaker 1: Mount Lafloor doesn't have a big part of that. It's 291 00:13:31,428 --> 00:13:34,668 Speaker 1: not just Aaron Rodgers. When I have Matt Castle sitting 292 00:13:34,708 --> 00:13:37,068 Speaker 1: next to me with an eleven and five season, that's 293 00:13:37,348 --> 00:13:40,708 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and that sort of scheming. And it has 294 00:13:40,748 --> 00:13:43,708 Speaker 1: to be on Cliff, who just got paid. That's somebody 295 00:13:43,748 --> 00:13:45,628 Speaker 1: that they do have the trust and it is so 296 00:13:45,948 --> 00:13:49,628 Speaker 1: on Cliff Kingsbury and his accountability to get something done. 297 00:13:49,948 --> 00:13:52,268 Speaker 1: We've seen it, those glimpses that eight and the start 298 00:13:52,308 --> 00:13:54,948 Speaker 1: that we're incredible to start this season. Somebody has to 299 00:13:55,028 --> 00:13:58,028 Speaker 1: be I'm always see like, who's like the Larry Fitzgerald, 300 00:13:58,068 --> 00:14:00,268 Speaker 1: like the raw Robert at the JJU. It has to 301 00:14:00,348 --> 00:14:02,468 Speaker 1: be Cliff at a certain point, and we can't just 302 00:14:02,788 --> 00:14:05,348 Speaker 1: neglect the responsibility on his shoulders to get it done. 303 00:14:05,468 --> 00:14:07,828 Speaker 1: And what an opportunity for him that already does. Yeah, 304 00:14:07,828 --> 00:14:09,508 Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals are gonna have two records next year. 305 00:14:09,508 --> 00:14:11,188 Speaker 1: They're gonna have their overall record and they're gonna have 306 00:14:11,268 --> 00:14:13,988 Speaker 1: that six game record without without DeAndre And what did 307 00:14:14,028 --> 00:14:17,268 Speaker 1: Cliff do? What did Kyler do? What did Hollywood dou 308 00:14:17,828 --> 00:14:20,708 Speaker 1: It is a huge amount more work for Cliff Kingsbury 309 00:14:20,748 --> 00:14:24,188 Speaker 1: and Kylin Murray. But I agree, terrible news item, big 310 00:14:24,268 --> 00:14:30,908 Speaker 1: opportunity for his owner, Jim if Be. Now you have 311 00:14:31,028 --> 00:14:33,788 Speaker 1: that information, enjoy your eggs, your coffee, your donuts, whatever, 312 00:14:33,868 --> 00:14:37,068 Speaker 1: and join us for Lee block block breakfast offences. Come on. 313 00:14:37,188 --> 00:14:40,188 Speaker 1: In the Eagles, they made a massive trade. It was 314 00:14:40,188 --> 00:14:42,308 Speaker 1: all really exciting. It was the first round of the draft. 315 00:14:42,388 --> 00:14:46,028 Speaker 1: They landed this guy, one thousand yards gentleman Pro Bowl 316 00:14:46,348 --> 00:14:49,108 Speaker 1: receiver aj Brown. Well, he spoke to the media yesterday 317 00:14:49,468 --> 00:14:56,388 Speaker 1: about landing in Philly. Now, I built relationships over the 318 00:14:56,468 --> 00:14:59,148 Speaker 1: past three years with a lot of good friends and 319 00:14:59,948 --> 00:15:03,148 Speaker 1: just to see a goal um just leaving and building. 320 00:15:03,588 --> 00:15:06,228 Speaker 1: You know, it's tough, you know, but I'm also excited 321 00:15:06,308 --> 00:15:09,548 Speaker 1: to be Eagle than it should be a part of 322 00:15:09,588 --> 00:15:12,148 Speaker 1: a great organization. Jane and say he's going to ask 323 00:15:12,188 --> 00:15:13,948 Speaker 1: him to trade for me. And we were just laughing 324 00:15:13,948 --> 00:15:16,468 Speaker 1: and joking and we had no idea that this would happen. So, 325 00:15:17,468 --> 00:15:20,108 Speaker 1: you know, I'm extremely excited to play with him. We 326 00:15:20,188 --> 00:15:23,548 Speaker 1: always joked about it, you know, but we never thought 327 00:15:23,588 --> 00:15:28,828 Speaker 1: it would be reality. As they say, thoughts turn into things. 328 00:15:28,908 --> 00:15:31,428 Speaker 1: It happened, Jalen and aj that connection is going to 329 00:15:31,428 --> 00:15:33,268 Speaker 1: be the one to watch in phillygo. We've had so 330 00:15:33,428 --> 00:15:36,188 Speaker 1: much action around the league all season, not to mention, 331 00:15:36,388 --> 00:15:38,308 Speaker 1: you know, just the talent added in the draft and 332 00:15:38,388 --> 00:15:40,708 Speaker 1: all of that. So who is the most intriguing new 333 00:15:40,868 --> 00:15:44,428 Speaker 1: duo in the NFL? Look. We talked of weeks about 334 00:15:44,468 --> 00:15:46,548 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill leaving Kansas City and what does that mean 335 00:15:46,588 --> 00:15:49,668 Speaker 1: for Patrick Mahomes Give me Mahomes to the sky as 336 00:15:49,748 --> 00:15:54,468 Speaker 1: in sky More, Patrick Mahomes sky More. Great name for 337 00:15:54,548 --> 00:15:57,828 Speaker 1: a receiver, Great name for a guy who, I mean 338 00:15:58,308 --> 00:16:00,268 Speaker 1: basically can hit the moon with John. What would you 339 00:16:00,308 --> 00:16:06,468 Speaker 1: say as the limit on sky on the question, I 340 00:16:06,548 --> 00:16:10,148 Speaker 1: would say that his ceiling is the floor. I think 341 00:16:10,188 --> 00:16:13,148 Speaker 1: when you think about the connection with this. Cynthia Freeland 342 00:16:13,428 --> 00:16:16,948 Speaker 1: actually interviewed Andy Reid after this pick and after this draft, 343 00:16:17,108 --> 00:16:19,628 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid was giddy talking about this guy about 344 00:16:19,628 --> 00:16:21,108 Speaker 1: how I was going to use him, and he said. 345 00:16:21,148 --> 00:16:23,708 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes actually called him and said thank you. So 346 00:16:24,188 --> 00:16:26,948 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is excited about this connection. And I think 347 00:16:26,988 --> 00:16:28,548 Speaker 1: if your sky more, you've got to be a lady like. 348 00:16:28,828 --> 00:16:31,028 Speaker 1: I mean, your game is all about the big ball 349 00:16:31,028 --> 00:16:32,868 Speaker 1: of the deep ball, and now you're paired up with 350 00:16:32,868 --> 00:16:35,308 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. So this is gonna be a fun duo. Well, 351 00:16:35,468 --> 00:16:38,108 Speaker 1: I would look at someone in their own division. I'm 352 00:16:38,228 --> 00:16:42,428 Speaker 1: letting car and Davante Derek Cardon Adams, there's best day. 353 00:16:42,428 --> 00:16:44,588 Speaker 1: It's a perfect reaction. I think there's so much good 354 00:16:44,628 --> 00:16:47,148 Speaker 1: will about these two. For a lot of reasons. Vegas 355 00:16:47,268 --> 00:16:49,428 Speaker 1: is fun, it's exciting, the Raiders seemed to be building something, 356 00:16:49,588 --> 00:16:51,508 Speaker 1: and also it's two of the most like, well liked 357 00:16:51,548 --> 00:16:53,948 Speaker 1: players in the league, like just great guys with the media, 358 00:16:54,028 --> 00:16:57,068 Speaker 1: with their teammates, and they're together. But I'm very excited 359 00:16:57,068 --> 00:16:58,828 Speaker 1: about this because we got into it in the research 360 00:16:58,948 --> 00:17:02,428 Speaker 1: last night. We found something about these two that we 361 00:17:02,508 --> 00:17:04,708 Speaker 1: had to go and double check with the league about 362 00:17:04,788 --> 00:17:07,868 Speaker 1: just to make sure it was right. So I'm thrilled 363 00:17:07,908 --> 00:17:10,708 Speaker 1: to tell you Derek Carr and DeVante Adams we can 364 00:17:10,868 --> 00:17:14,708 Speaker 1: confirm played in college together. And that is true. They 365 00:17:14,788 --> 00:17:18,708 Speaker 1: played together. No, no, no, they've played together before. This 366 00:17:18,868 --> 00:17:21,508 Speaker 1: has become the beaten to a pulp storyline that is 367 00:17:21,588 --> 00:17:24,908 Speaker 1: cute and fun and everything. I'm at this point where, Okay, 368 00:17:25,308 --> 00:17:27,548 Speaker 1: two well liked guys. We know they played in college. 369 00:17:27,548 --> 00:17:29,388 Speaker 1: We've seen the footage, we've seen the clips. It's everything. 370 00:17:29,388 --> 00:17:31,828 Speaker 1: It's all very smart. We gotta go now. We got 371 00:17:31,908 --> 00:17:34,468 Speaker 1: a big season now, and I'm talking about big wins. 372 00:17:34,788 --> 00:17:37,228 Speaker 1: I'm talking about big numbers. If the car DeVante thing 373 00:17:37,308 --> 00:17:40,228 Speaker 1: washes out and it's like, yeah, you know, thousands and 374 00:17:40,348 --> 00:17:42,828 Speaker 1: change yards and six touchdowns like for Allever, what's like 375 00:17:42,948 --> 00:17:44,508 Speaker 1: where we're told, we were promised, this is gonna be 376 00:17:44,508 --> 00:17:46,668 Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. I needs you to beat the Chiefs. 377 00:17:46,948 --> 00:17:48,308 Speaker 1: I need you to beat the Chargers. We want to 378 00:17:48,348 --> 00:17:50,828 Speaker 1: accomplish some things this year. That is a great way 379 00:17:50,948 --> 00:17:53,908 Speaker 1: to do. Photoshop the Instagram and say how it started, 380 00:17:53,988 --> 00:17:56,628 Speaker 1: how it's going, and they're in college. That's all fine 381 00:17:56,748 --> 00:17:58,868 Speaker 1: for the offseason. When the season starts, I want to 382 00:17:58,868 --> 00:18:01,588 Speaker 1: see how this thing goes, because you know, DeVante was 383 00:18:01,748 --> 00:18:05,468 Speaker 1: openly kind of just pontificating while with the Packers and 384 00:18:05,548 --> 00:18:08,268 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers about how much he liked Derek Carr and 385 00:18:08,348 --> 00:18:10,268 Speaker 1: imagine if we did, and that would be fun. Like 386 00:18:10,428 --> 00:18:12,988 Speaker 1: he was kind of into it. Um could have taken 387 00:18:13,108 --> 00:18:15,228 Speaker 1: less if you understand Green Bay. Don't blame him for leaving, 388 00:18:15,588 --> 00:18:17,788 Speaker 1: But you had the greatest quarterbacks ever lived, and you 389 00:18:17,868 --> 00:18:20,148 Speaker 1: were killing it every single year. You want it out. 390 00:18:20,228 --> 00:18:22,388 Speaker 1: You're back with your college friends. We all want to 391 00:18:22,388 --> 00:18:23,948 Speaker 1: hang out with our college friends. We all love it, 392 00:18:24,028 --> 00:18:26,028 Speaker 1: but like eventually become adults and like you go and 393 00:18:26,108 --> 00:18:28,988 Speaker 1: build lives of stuff. There's a danger in being seduced 394 00:18:28,988 --> 00:18:31,188 Speaker 1: by hanging out with the college friends. I hope this 395 00:18:31,268 --> 00:18:33,188 Speaker 1: works out. It's going a great story if they do. 396 00:18:33,468 --> 00:18:35,268 Speaker 1: I want the Raiders win in playoff games, but this 397 00:18:35,468 --> 00:18:38,788 Speaker 1: thing demands great production. Two guys in their prime. I 398 00:18:38,868 --> 00:18:41,468 Speaker 1: don't care where they played in college. I care how 399 00:18:41,548 --> 00:18:43,788 Speaker 1: they play in the NFL, and I want to put 400 00:18:43,828 --> 00:18:45,588 Speaker 1: up big numbers this year. But think that they will. 401 00:18:45,668 --> 00:18:47,508 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna crush it. I think they will. 402 00:18:47,668 --> 00:18:50,748 Speaker 1: I think DeVante was done in Green Bay and has 403 00:18:50,748 --> 00:18:53,628 Speaker 1: a lot in his hen't anything to prove to anybody. 404 00:18:53,668 --> 00:18:56,668 Speaker 1: He's an unquestioned top player at his position, top player 405 00:18:56,708 --> 00:18:58,468 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But I think he does want to 406 00:18:58,548 --> 00:19:02,188 Speaker 1: prove he can do it without Aaron, and he loves Derek, 407 00:19:02,468 --> 00:19:04,548 Speaker 1: and there's because of the kind of guy that they 408 00:19:05,068 --> 00:19:07,188 Speaker 1: both of them are. They're gonna put in the work, 409 00:19:07,268 --> 00:19:09,148 Speaker 1: bring out the best in each other. And they have 410 00:19:09,228 --> 00:19:12,588 Speaker 1: advisor gentleman that's pretty good at drawing a place chemistry 411 00:19:12,588 --> 00:19:15,348 Speaker 1: as everything does well. Listen, just talking up at the football, 412 00:19:15,828 --> 00:19:18,668 Speaker 1: when's Derek Carr had a wide receiver who just lit 413 00:19:18,748 --> 00:19:21,628 Speaker 1: up the world. I think Amari Cooper was the closest 414 00:19:21,668 --> 00:19:23,548 Speaker 1: he's gotten, and then when he left and went to 415 00:19:23,708 --> 00:19:26,028 Speaker 1: Dak his game kind of elevated. So I don't know 416 00:19:26,148 --> 00:19:28,468 Speaker 1: if Brek Carr is a starmaker as a quarterback for 417 00:19:28,548 --> 00:19:30,948 Speaker 1: White yet maybe he has another right guy and I'm 418 00:19:30,988 --> 00:19:33,148 Speaker 1: hoping for It's just we haven't seen it yet with 419 00:19:33,228 --> 00:19:34,868 Speaker 1: both those two guys together, and I hope we don't 420 00:19:35,388 --> 00:19:39,508 Speaker 1: really fun. You are gonna you're going Chiefs. You just 421 00:19:39,668 --> 00:19:41,828 Speaker 1: hit me with the Raiders and I'm gonna take you 422 00:19:42,028 --> 00:19:46,708 Speaker 1: the Broncos country. Let's ride Russell Wilson. We know there's 423 00:19:46,748 --> 00:19:49,268 Speaker 1: weirdly questions about him. I have no questions about Russell Wilson. 424 00:19:49,308 --> 00:19:51,188 Speaker 1: Get him there. He should fall out and a people 425 00:19:51,268 --> 00:19:53,868 Speaker 1: were trying to end his career at his agees like 426 00:19:54,028 --> 00:19:55,908 Speaker 1: never missed games. He's missed two games in his life. 427 00:19:56,228 --> 00:19:58,588 Speaker 1: Shut up to those people. How about Jerry Judy though, 428 00:19:58,748 --> 00:20:01,748 Speaker 1: here's this untapped resource gem that's about to burst out 429 00:20:01,748 --> 00:20:06,188 Speaker 1: onto the scene. Lest you forget, Judy fifteenth overall in 430 00:20:06,348 --> 00:20:09,268 Speaker 1: twenty twenty at the draft, ahead of Justin Jefferson and 431 00:20:09,548 --> 00:20:12,188 Speaker 1: Ceedee lamp Has he produced at that level? No, he 432 00:20:12,228 --> 00:20:14,708 Speaker 1: hasn't really had a chance to those zero consistency at 433 00:20:14,748 --> 00:20:20,628 Speaker 1: the quarterback spot. Five different starting quarterbacks in two seasons now. 434 00:20:21,068 --> 00:20:22,788 Speaker 1: He's a guy who's always out there on the field. 435 00:20:23,068 --> 00:20:26,628 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Judy was described less do you forget as 436 00:20:26,668 --> 00:20:29,028 Speaker 1: one of the purest route runners we've seen coming out 437 00:20:29,068 --> 00:20:31,668 Speaker 1: of college. He has a big play way into happen 438 00:20:31,908 --> 00:20:34,828 Speaker 1: and I hope, I hope this connection works out. This 439 00:20:34,908 --> 00:20:37,028 Speaker 1: one I have the most questions about. But I think 440 00:20:37,108 --> 00:20:39,868 Speaker 1: as we look at the AFC West, we just talk 441 00:20:39,908 --> 00:20:42,268 Speaker 1: ourselves into the best duos in the NFL, the most 442 00:20:42,348 --> 00:20:44,908 Speaker 1: intriguing and exciting. We didn't even talk about Herbert and 443 00:20:44,908 --> 00:20:46,468 Speaker 1: whoever he could be tossed in the rock to and 444 00:20:46,508 --> 00:20:48,948 Speaker 1: having chemistry with this year. But I think the one 445 00:20:48,988 --> 00:20:52,148 Speaker 1: you mentioned is the best duo in the Let's be honest, 446 00:20:52,188 --> 00:20:55,388 Speaker 1: if we're not going to mention Kelsey your wide receivers, Yeah, 447 00:20:55,468 --> 00:20:57,228 Speaker 1: I think you have to. But I think Denver is 448 00:20:57,228 --> 00:20:59,268 Speaker 1: the most interesting team in that in that division just 449 00:20:59,268 --> 00:21:01,948 Speaker 1: because the rest of them are kind of mostly known commodities. 450 00:21:01,948 --> 00:21:03,388 Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of change with the Raiders, 451 00:21:03,428 --> 00:21:06,508 Speaker 1: but like the new back obviously changes everything. I remember 452 00:21:06,668 --> 00:21:08,988 Speaker 1: last year for Jerry Judy, like everyone's hoping last year 453 00:21:08,988 --> 00:21:10,908 Speaker 1: would be the breakout year. He missed a lot of time, 454 00:21:10,988 --> 00:21:13,708 Speaker 1: he got hurt and again like what quarterbacks he'm playing with? 455 00:21:13,788 --> 00:21:15,828 Speaker 1: And now he's got a guy and like it's true 456 00:21:16,028 --> 00:21:18,068 Speaker 1: his potential coming out of the draft, I think it's 457 00:21:18,108 --> 00:21:19,988 Speaker 1: been forgotten because he's just been kind of treading water 458 00:21:20,068 --> 00:21:21,988 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Feels like, but he should 459 00:21:21,988 --> 00:21:26,228 Speaker 1: do big things this year. I tell you what. Corton 460 00:21:26,268 --> 00:21:29,068 Speaker 1: Sutton could surprise people too. I mean, I think for Russell, 461 00:21:29,228 --> 00:21:31,028 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. The duo might just be the 462 00:21:31,108 --> 00:21:33,228 Speaker 1: fact that he has two of them. Because Courton Sulton, 463 00:21:33,268 --> 00:21:34,828 Speaker 1: he's a deep throat. You have the most faith and 464 00:21:34,948 --> 00:21:37,988 Speaker 1: quarterback to wide receiver chemistry in the AFC. West. The 465 00:21:38,148 --> 00:21:42,228 Speaker 1: Tyreek thing messes everything up. Then you're doing juju or 466 00:21:42,308 --> 00:21:47,668 Speaker 1: Mark quez Um, I think is it yours? No, but no, 467 00:21:47,748 --> 00:21:50,908 Speaker 1: it might not be. I may go Kimmy Justin Herbert 468 00:21:50,908 --> 00:21:53,028 Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen like the most experienced a few years 469 00:21:53,068 --> 00:21:54,428 Speaker 1: in a row. Like I think I would go with 470 00:21:54,508 --> 00:21:56,628 Speaker 1: the Chargers actually, and they're been left out of this couple. 471 00:21:56,668 --> 00:21:59,148 Speaker 1: Think Keaton probably the most disrespected receiver in that division. 472 00:21:59,188 --> 00:22:01,428 Speaker 1: Doesn''s not spoken about it? Or Mike Williams like whoever? 473 00:22:01,468 --> 00:22:04,708 Speaker 1: I like the Chargers too interesting at GMFE with your thoughts. 474 00:22:05,188 --> 00:22:07,348 Speaker 1: That's pretty fun. I haven't thought about things that way 475 00:22:07,428 --> 00:22:09,668 Speaker 1: sky more. I mean, who who knows? If it's of 476 00:22:09,748 --> 00:22:13,188 Speaker 1: Holmes to McColl might be. It might be he's been there, 477 00:22:13,268 --> 00:22:16,628 Speaker 1: he's got the most tenure on that unbelievable No, DeMarcus Robinson, 478 00:22:16,708 --> 00:22:20,428 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. But the sky is the limit 479 00:22:20,548 --> 00:22:22,708 Speaker 1: is what you were supposed to say, Sean, you know, 480 00:22:23,068 --> 00:22:25,668 Speaker 1: get okay, all right? In that case, the sky was falling. 481 00:22:25,708 --> 00:22:35,668 Speaker 1: It was everything that's right. Not only is our show 482 00:22:35,908 --> 00:22:38,748 Speaker 1: young hip and vogue trendy cool with spring Fling, we 483 00:22:38,828 --> 00:22:42,748 Speaker 1: also celebrate Taco Tuesday here on the program, So let's 484 00:22:42,788 --> 00:22:44,468 Speaker 1: get to it. Kyle, is there anything you want to 485 00:22:44,588 --> 00:22:51,308 Speaker 1: taco out? In fact, there is. It is draft grades season. 486 00:22:51,428 --> 00:22:55,428 Speaker 1: Oh boy, I brow up, I click on him, I 487 00:22:55,588 --> 00:22:57,708 Speaker 1: read them, I enjoy them, I consume him, have for 488 00:22:57,868 --> 00:23:02,548 Speaker 1: years we all do. Draft grades are like mock drafts. 489 00:23:02,708 --> 00:23:07,028 Speaker 1: Drunk brother, Okay, they're crashing on mock drafts, Fluton and 490 00:23:07,188 --> 00:23:10,508 Speaker 1: they're huffing paint in mock drafts garage. They're just family. 491 00:23:10,628 --> 00:23:12,188 Speaker 1: They're part of the family, so we have to talk 492 00:23:12,268 --> 00:23:14,668 Speaker 1: about them. But I have terrible news because also part 493 00:23:14,708 --> 00:23:16,948 Speaker 1: of our family are all the teams. Jaguars, you had 494 00:23:16,948 --> 00:23:19,748 Speaker 1: a terrible draft. That says it right here, c plus Colts, 495 00:23:19,868 --> 00:23:23,228 Speaker 1: terrible drafts, Saints, Seahawks, Patriots. You guys are all screwed. 496 00:23:23,348 --> 00:23:25,988 Speaker 1: This draft set you back years, at least according to 497 00:23:26,108 --> 00:23:28,228 Speaker 1: the draft grades, because you, guys, those teams I just 498 00:23:28,308 --> 00:23:30,868 Speaker 1: named have the worst draft grades of anybody, just the 499 00:23:31,428 --> 00:23:35,348 Speaker 1: back of the class, throwing paper airplanes and spitballs. Or 500 00:23:35,468 --> 00:23:37,868 Speaker 1: do you really or do you do you think I 501 00:23:37,988 --> 00:23:40,668 Speaker 1: have the stones right now in this program to perhaps 502 00:23:40,708 --> 00:23:42,708 Speaker 1: some draft grades passed and maybe ones that have an 503 00:23:42,748 --> 00:23:46,148 Speaker 1: age that well, do you guys remember the twenty twelve Seahawks. 504 00:23:46,188 --> 00:23:48,188 Speaker 1: Does that team come to mind? Did they have any 505 00:23:48,228 --> 00:23:51,228 Speaker 1: good players? Let's see Rusty Wilson, fairly good player. Heaston 506 00:23:51,268 --> 00:23:53,828 Speaker 1: went to NC State, Wisconsin baseball player. They drafted him. 507 00:23:53,868 --> 00:23:58,028 Speaker 1: It's a nice late round pick two there. Serving won 508 00:23:58,108 --> 00:24:00,068 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Bobby Wagner, Is he any good? It's 509 00:24:00,108 --> 00:24:02,108 Speaker 1: gonna have a yellow jacket some day. Didn't even have 510 00:24:02,148 --> 00:24:03,668 Speaker 1: to spend a first round pick out him. Seems like 511 00:24:03,668 --> 00:24:06,988 Speaker 1: a pretty good draft at Bruce Servan all rookie team, 512 00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:09,388 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, fifty two career sex and yet, 513 00:24:10,148 --> 00:24:13,508 Speaker 1: and yet, let's bring up the draft grade from right 514 00:24:13,588 --> 00:24:16,188 Speaker 1: after the Seahawks made that draft. Bring it up, old 515 00:24:16,308 --> 00:24:19,108 Speaker 1: Bleacher Report. Not only was Bruce Servan a reach of fifteen, 516 00:24:19,148 --> 00:24:21,188 Speaker 1: the Seahawks prove they were oblivious to their madness by 517 00:24:21,308 --> 00:24:24,348 Speaker 1: celebrating their selections. They're madden for celebrating. As if the 518 00:24:24,468 --> 00:24:27,668 Speaker 1: day wasn't bad enough. Seattle selecting Russell Wilson, a quarterback 519 00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,148 Speaker 1: who doesn't fit their offense at allay was by far 520 00:24:29,148 --> 00:24:31,148 Speaker 1: the worst move in the draft. With the two first 521 00:24:31,228 --> 00:24:33,468 Speaker 1: moves of the draft, Seattle is the only team that 522 00:24:33,548 --> 00:24:37,588 Speaker 1: received on f on draft day. Imagine that matches seaks 523 00:24:37,628 --> 00:24:40,988 Speaker 1: Man's reaming that mcmah, we're screwed. They were so terrible 524 00:24:41,308 --> 00:24:43,948 Speaker 1: you want another one? Do you guys remember, by chance? 525 00:24:44,148 --> 00:24:46,348 Speaker 1: Were there any good players in the ninety six Ravens 526 00:24:46,428 --> 00:24:48,668 Speaker 1: Draft by Jonathan Odden Sean, you made your living as 527 00:24:48,708 --> 00:24:51,028 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. Yeah, one of the best linemen ever lived. 528 00:24:51,148 --> 00:24:52,828 Speaker 1: Or Ray Lewis. I think he could play some ball. 529 00:24:53,268 --> 00:24:57,908 Speaker 1: They took him decent and yet bring it up draft 530 00:24:57,988 --> 00:25:02,268 Speaker 1: grade season, Eat it up, old Lenny Pascarelli from the 531 00:25:02,308 --> 00:25:05,668 Speaker 1: AJC Baltimore. I give them a Johnathan Ogden if was 532 00:25:05,668 --> 00:25:08,868 Speaker 1: some tackle, ray Lewis linebacker passed on the draft's best player, 533 00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:11,548 Speaker 1: and where does Ogton even play? By the way, the 534 00:25:11,628 --> 00:25:13,668 Speaker 1: draft past player that they're referred to was Lawrence Phillips. 535 00:25:13,708 --> 00:25:15,348 Speaker 1: And that's a whole different thing. But they didn't draft 536 00:25:15,588 --> 00:25:17,708 Speaker 1: the two of the greatest players to ever live. They 537 00:25:17,828 --> 00:25:19,348 Speaker 1: drafted and they got to see. Let me just give 538 00:25:19,348 --> 00:25:23,388 Speaker 1: you one, lady, more world. We have a New York 539 00:25:23,388 --> 00:25:25,188 Speaker 1: Giant at the table. Super Bowl champion Zach Guy a 540 00:25:25,228 --> 00:25:29,908 Speaker 1: pretty good player. Michael Strahan had about thirty sacks in 541 00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:33,068 Speaker 1: one season. I brought a Super Bowl champion against an 542 00:25:33,068 --> 00:25:36,188 Speaker 1: eighteen and oh team is now a national treasure, and 543 00:25:36,348 --> 00:25:38,428 Speaker 1: yet the Giants decide to spend not a first round pick. 544 00:25:38,468 --> 00:25:40,108 Speaker 1: And I'm even look at look out Jake Plumber and 545 00:25:40,308 --> 00:25:43,908 Speaker 1: what was the draft grade in draft grade season back 546 00:25:43,948 --> 00:25:47,788 Speaker 1: in ninety three? C minus? Their second rounder has the 547 00:25:47,828 --> 00:25:51,948 Speaker 1: look of a developmental prospect who eventually may become a 548 00:25:51,988 --> 00:25:54,308 Speaker 1: past wrest from Kirk Sealvester. I don't know why the 549 00:25:54,348 --> 00:25:56,428 Speaker 1: Detroit Free Press is waiting in on the Giants draft. 550 00:25:56,508 --> 00:26:00,188 Speaker 1: Here's my point. Here's my point. We love draft grades. 551 00:26:00,268 --> 00:26:02,188 Speaker 1: They come over for Thanksgiving and they're kind of that 552 00:26:02,308 --> 00:26:04,628 Speaker 1: like dumb cousin that we get in hearing him a 553 00:26:04,668 --> 00:26:08,028 Speaker 1: little nuggie. Don't worry about it. Jaguars, Patriots, everybody else. 554 00:26:08,068 --> 00:26:09,388 Speaker 1: I don't care if you got an F minus or 555 00:26:09,388 --> 00:26:12,028 Speaker 1: an A plus. Robert Salo was asked about their jets 556 00:26:12,068 --> 00:26:15,108 Speaker 1: amazing draft grade. Salo, You guys killed at eight plus 557 00:26:15,188 --> 00:26:17,668 Speaker 1: eight plus. He was on that twenty twelve Seahawks staff. 558 00:26:17,668 --> 00:26:19,668 Speaker 1: He understands. He's like, we were killed for that one. 559 00:26:19,868 --> 00:26:22,228 Speaker 1: They're fun, they're candy, eat him and enjoyed, right, so 560 00:26:22,308 --> 00:26:24,268 Speaker 1: we should. If they're the Owen Wilson on the couch, 561 00:26:24,428 --> 00:26:27,908 Speaker 1: they're me one, and we should just accept them because 562 00:26:27,948 --> 00:26:30,788 Speaker 1: there's lovable things about them. It is good information, it's great, 563 00:26:30,828 --> 00:26:33,028 Speaker 1: good act they're good at romantic comedies. I like that 564 00:26:33,108 --> 00:26:35,948 Speaker 1: movie Midnight in Paris. I love it, But like, let's 565 00:26:35,948 --> 00:26:38,708 Speaker 1: not pretend that they're in Marlin Brando here. Okay, right, Yeah. 566 00:26:39,108 --> 00:26:40,548 Speaker 1: I love that we're going with draft grades right now 567 00:26:40,548 --> 00:26:42,948 Speaker 1: because basically the noogies are a lot of the GM's 568 00:26:42,948 --> 00:26:45,108 Speaker 1: are getting in here. It's like, oh, what were you doing? 569 00:26:45,188 --> 00:26:47,308 Speaker 1: Like fans think that they know more than gms, and 570 00:26:47,748 --> 00:26:50,668 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. GM's. Look, they get 571 00:26:50,788 --> 00:26:53,828 Speaker 1: worn out. General managers. I don't think get enough credit 572 00:26:53,908 --> 00:26:55,908 Speaker 1: for the amount of time that they put in to 573 00:26:56,068 --> 00:26:58,268 Speaker 1: their job. They're kind of like the offensive linemen of 574 00:26:58,428 --> 00:27:00,748 Speaker 1: the front office, and like nobody ever talks about them 575 00:27:00,988 --> 00:27:03,748 Speaker 1: until something bad happened or there's a mistake or you 576 00:27:03,908 --> 00:27:05,708 Speaker 1: missed on this guy. I can't believe you didn't take 577 00:27:05,748 --> 00:27:10,628 Speaker 1: this guy. And yet there's Kevin Colbert in Pittsburgh, and 578 00:27:10,908 --> 00:27:13,348 Speaker 1: when you look at what he did throughout his career, 579 00:27:13,748 --> 00:27:15,868 Speaker 1: he just went through his final draft. He's been in 580 00:27:15,948 --> 00:27:18,308 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for twenty two years. So I want to give 581 00:27:18,388 --> 00:27:22,068 Speaker 1: some love to Kevin Colbert on a fantastic career. He 582 00:27:22,228 --> 00:27:25,348 Speaker 1: did it the right way and all class this guy. 583 00:27:25,508 --> 00:27:28,068 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at Kevin Colburg. Some of his 584 00:27:28,428 --> 00:27:31,788 Speaker 1: stats from guy, his career resume in Pittsburgh twenty two years. 585 00:27:31,828 --> 00:27:34,748 Speaker 1: I mentioned, I want to just take a look at 586 00:27:35,108 --> 00:27:40,828 Speaker 1: twenty two seasons. He yielded fourteen playoff teams. That's insane. 587 00:27:41,668 --> 00:27:44,468 Speaker 1: Literally every year. Don't book anything in January, all right, guys, 588 00:27:44,508 --> 00:27:47,748 Speaker 1: we got work to do. Divisional championships ten all right. 589 00:27:47,788 --> 00:27:50,108 Speaker 1: Look at some of the players that he drafted, Lev Bell, 590 00:27:50,188 --> 00:27:52,228 Speaker 1: all right, we'll skip over a b although he was 591 00:27:52,268 --> 00:27:54,228 Speaker 1: a phenomenal player and things have been a little nicely 592 00:27:54,308 --> 00:27:56,988 Speaker 1: with him. DeCastro and Aji Harris cameer at Santonio Holmes, 593 00:27:57,108 --> 00:27:59,348 Speaker 1: how about Troy Palamalo Hall of Famer right there at 594 00:27:59,388 --> 00:28:03,508 Speaker 1: Marquis Pouncy, big Ben. Of course, to Watt, he's just 595 00:28:03,588 --> 00:28:07,428 Speaker 1: some unbelievable, unbelievable people. And I think when you look 596 00:28:07,428 --> 00:28:09,908 Speaker 1: at Kevin Colburn, what he meant to the organization and 597 00:28:09,988 --> 00:28:12,988 Speaker 1: what the organization meant to him. He showed some true 598 00:28:13,028 --> 00:28:15,988 Speaker 1: emotion at the press conference with Mike Tomlin. I think 599 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:27,548 Speaker 1: you'll appreciate this. Think about DMR and being able to 600 00:28:27,628 --> 00:28:32,868 Speaker 1: add to that room means a ton. It doesn't mean 601 00:28:32,948 --> 00:28:36,028 Speaker 1: it's over the next step. I mean we gotta we 602 00:28:36,148 --> 00:28:40,588 Speaker 1: gotta get more than and we'll never lose that. But 603 00:28:40,708 --> 00:28:48,388 Speaker 1: it means a lot. You could tell tell it means 604 00:28:48,388 --> 00:28:51,028 Speaker 1: a lot for him. You know. The whole thing is 605 00:28:51,028 --> 00:28:53,828 Speaker 1: about the trophies that he put in that case right there, 606 00:28:53,948 --> 00:28:56,828 Speaker 1: And I just want to say, you know, congratulations Kevin. 607 00:28:57,268 --> 00:29:01,068 Speaker 1: Great career as as general managers. You know, when you 608 00:29:01,148 --> 00:29:04,508 Speaker 1: talk about him, he never made it about him, right like, 609 00:29:04,668 --> 00:29:06,468 Speaker 1: he was never the guy that was making all of 610 00:29:06,508 --> 00:29:08,788 Speaker 1: his noise and making it about himself. It was always 611 00:29:08,788 --> 00:29:10,868 Speaker 1: about the team. It was always about Tom, It was 612 00:29:10,868 --> 00:29:13,148 Speaker 1: always about the players. It was always about the championships. 613 00:29:14,108 --> 00:29:17,588 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean actually had a great story about Kevin Kilbert. 614 00:29:17,868 --> 00:29:20,388 Speaker 1: They were on the road, they were scouting college players, 615 00:29:20,428 --> 00:29:23,068 Speaker 1: they were in these college games, and Brandon Bean was 616 00:29:23,108 --> 00:29:24,908 Speaker 1: at the rental car company. You know, these guys are 617 00:29:24,948 --> 00:29:27,548 Speaker 1: shuttling back and forth from airports and Kevin gets his 618 00:29:27,668 --> 00:29:30,108 Speaker 1: car and he's he's heading out to get it and 619 00:29:30,188 --> 00:29:31,948 Speaker 1: he hears them say to Brandon being, hey, look at 620 00:29:31,988 --> 00:29:34,108 Speaker 1: maybe an hour or so before your car gets here. 621 00:29:34,548 --> 00:29:37,908 Speaker 1: So Kevin Tursum says, hey, you know you need a ride? 622 00:29:37,948 --> 00:29:40,388 Speaker 1: What's you know? Brandons like no, no, Kevin, go go. 623 00:29:40,468 --> 00:29:42,908 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Thirty minutes later, 624 00:29:43,108 --> 00:29:45,188 Speaker 1: Kevin Kolbert calls Brandon being and says, hey, I'm just 625 00:29:45,268 --> 00:29:47,468 Speaker 1: checking to make sure you got your card. I need 626 00:29:47,508 --> 00:29:49,948 Speaker 1: to come back and pick you up. So it's just 627 00:29:50,548 --> 00:29:54,028 Speaker 1: Kevin pure class. Congratulations on a wonderful career. And I'm 628 00:29:54,068 --> 00:29:56,308 Speaker 1: glad that he showed the emotion because it means a lot. 629 00:29:56,388 --> 00:29:59,028 Speaker 1: I know people are grading these gems buses the draft 630 00:29:59,068 --> 00:30:00,748 Speaker 1: and they get beat up a lot, but don't think 631 00:30:00,788 --> 00:30:02,268 Speaker 1: that they're not putting their heart and soul into all this. 632 00:30:02,628 --> 00:30:06,108 Speaker 1: It's great, wonderful time. It is pick apart season. You're 633 00:30:06,148 --> 00:30:09,388 Speaker 1: so right, and so were you, Kyle. So I don't 634 00:30:09,468 --> 00:30:13,068 Speaker 1: love the head scratching. Let's talk about it that is 635 00:30:13,108 --> 00:30:17,468 Speaker 1: going around surrounding a certain first round pick from Thursday night. 636 00:30:17,548 --> 00:30:20,708 Speaker 1: It all started the moment US Draft were the twenty 637 00:30:20,828 --> 00:30:25,428 Speaker 1: ninth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. The 638 00:30:25,548 --> 00:30:34,108 Speaker 1: New England Patriots like Cole Strange guard Chattanooga. Wow, Wow, 639 00:30:34,308 --> 00:30:36,148 Speaker 1: I thought Cole Strange, he was one of my favorite 640 00:30:36,228 --> 00:30:37,748 Speaker 1: mid round guys. I thought you might get him in 641 00:30:37,788 --> 00:30:40,308 Speaker 1: the third round. The Patriots they take the guys they 642 00:30:40,428 --> 00:30:42,428 Speaker 1: like going all the way up there in the first round. 643 00:30:42,428 --> 00:30:47,428 Speaker 1: I had him in the early seventies. Wow, wow, Yeah, 644 00:30:47,548 --> 00:30:50,428 Speaker 1: I love the face mask and I get it all right. 645 00:30:50,508 --> 00:30:52,788 Speaker 1: And it continued. There's a lot of different opinions, a 646 00:30:52,788 --> 00:30:54,708 Speaker 1: lot of just head scratching going on. There was a 647 00:30:54,788 --> 00:30:57,468 Speaker 1: viral clip, of course, of a shock Sean McVeagh and 648 00:30:57,588 --> 00:31:01,308 Speaker 1: list need you take a look at this? Really really 649 00:31:01,428 --> 00:31:05,308 Speaker 1: just win? Oh my ut chat had a neuga to 650 00:31:05,468 --> 00:31:10,548 Speaker 1: the first round. Hey where how about that? And we 651 00:31:10,748 --> 00:31:13,028 Speaker 1: wasted our time watching him thinking he'd be at one 652 00:31:13,068 --> 00:31:20,908 Speaker 1: oh four maybe shot now. Of course there's lots of 653 00:31:20,948 --> 00:31:22,548 Speaker 1: twitter on that, and you know those guys are just 654 00:31:22,628 --> 00:31:24,068 Speaker 1: kicking back because they want a Super Bowl and they 655 00:31:24,068 --> 00:31:26,268 Speaker 1: don't have a pick, so they're hanging out. But all 656 00:31:26,388 --> 00:31:29,828 Speaker 1: of sports media, everybody's like, what he Bill Belichick? What 657 00:31:29,868 --> 00:31:31,588 Speaker 1: are you doing? There was all this reaction going on. 658 00:31:32,068 --> 00:31:35,828 Speaker 1: People were saying it was a naive move. Okay, I 659 00:31:36,188 --> 00:31:37,908 Speaker 1: think we're I don't think we should do this. I 660 00:31:38,028 --> 00:31:40,068 Speaker 1: just don't think we should go here. Let me tell 661 00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:44,148 Speaker 1: you about this kid Cole Strange, absolute beast on the field. Yes, 662 00:31:44,268 --> 00:31:46,748 Speaker 1: you teach out a new glad one set his whole 663 00:31:46,828 --> 00:31:50,108 Speaker 1: college career though, that's just even. That's a great fact, right, 664 00:31:50,188 --> 00:31:54,188 Speaker 1: two time Jacob's Award winner given to the Southern Conference's 665 00:31:54,228 --> 00:31:56,268 Speaker 1: best oh line. They're right. PFF graded him with the 666 00:31:56,308 --> 00:31:58,428 Speaker 1: top guarden all of college football. I was up in 667 00:31:58,468 --> 00:32:01,188 Speaker 1: New England. What did they need a guard? They attacked 668 00:32:01,308 --> 00:32:04,148 Speaker 1: that position and he could play everywhere. He's versatile. That matters. 669 00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:08,828 Speaker 1: PATRIOTSY pick right, while to me that everyone else just knows. 670 00:32:08,908 --> 00:32:10,948 Speaker 1: Everyone knows exactly what kind of career coaster Range is 671 00:32:10,988 --> 00:32:12,628 Speaker 1: going to have before he even plays it down. And 672 00:32:12,668 --> 00:32:14,268 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about the people that I just showed, 673 00:32:14,308 --> 00:32:17,708 Speaker 1: just everybody had. This sort of thing makes me want 674 00:32:17,828 --> 00:32:20,468 Speaker 1: his jersey, makes me want to root for him. I 675 00:32:20,588 --> 00:32:23,348 Speaker 1: am his biggest supporter in National Football League this year, 676 00:32:23,588 --> 00:32:26,228 Speaker 1: and I just think we've been proven so many times 677 00:32:26,268 --> 00:32:29,148 Speaker 1: before not to do this, that we probably shouldn't do this, right. 678 00:32:29,268 --> 00:32:31,908 Speaker 1: We have many examples of this, the Texans taking Marie 679 00:32:31,988 --> 00:32:35,268 Speaker 1: Williams over Vince Young and Reggie Bush unthinkable at the time. 680 00:32:35,348 --> 00:32:37,108 Speaker 1: Kyl Leave taught me this year in year out for 681 00:32:37,268 --> 00:32:40,348 Speaker 1: all pro selections. Undoubtedly the best career of the bunch. 682 00:32:40,548 --> 00:32:43,148 Speaker 1: Or how about Hall of Famer Ed read Ed Reid 683 00:32:43,388 --> 00:32:46,948 Speaker 1: Actually a Baltimore soun headline that read this, Let's face 684 00:32:47,028 --> 00:32:51,628 Speaker 1: it read as a pick without piore Son. It happened 685 00:32:51,668 --> 00:32:54,428 Speaker 1: to Donovan McNabb when he was booed at the draft, 686 00:32:54,508 --> 00:32:58,188 Speaker 1: the Darius Leonard pick. Remember Darius Wonard pick online picked apart, 687 00:32:58,308 --> 00:33:01,668 Speaker 1: JJ Watt scoffed at. And there are a countless others. 688 00:33:01,988 --> 00:33:05,228 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about scoffing. That's something nobody's off strange, 689 00:33:05,228 --> 00:33:07,068 Speaker 1: but there's a lot. There's a lot of huh what 690 00:33:07,748 --> 00:33:11,148 Speaker 1: going on. We can ignore the outside noise and and 691 00:33:11,348 --> 00:33:14,108 Speaker 1: it just fall I'm falling deep for this cold strange guy. 692 00:33:14,188 --> 00:33:16,508 Speaker 1: So that's what I wanted to talk about. It. It 693 00:33:16,668 --> 00:33:19,908 Speaker 1: might work out. We'll be back. We're the cold strange 694 00:33:19,908 --> 00:33:29,628 Speaker 1: show of back right now. Well them back to morning 695 00:33:29,668 --> 00:33:32,108 Speaker 1: football in studio guests. We love it, especially when it's 696 00:33:32,108 --> 00:33:34,428 Speaker 1: an old, old, old, dear friend. He is a ten 697 00:33:34,508 --> 00:33:37,068 Speaker 1: year former NFL defensive lineman. He has been an analyst 698 00:33:37,108 --> 00:33:39,428 Speaker 1: and CBS and S and why please welcome back to 699 00:33:39,628 --> 00:33:44,468 Speaker 1: the back of the table. Everyboddy Lejays. Feels so good 700 00:33:44,468 --> 00:33:46,068 Speaker 1: to be back in studio under the last time I 701 00:33:46,148 --> 00:33:48,308 Speaker 1: talk to you, guys, it was virtual. I was at home, 702 00:33:48,348 --> 00:33:50,068 Speaker 1: So it feels good to be back in the studio 703 00:33:50,188 --> 00:33:52,748 Speaker 1: with my family. You're here, Oh, of course, it feels 704 00:33:52,788 --> 00:33:54,028 Speaker 1: good to have you, and you know what, it feels 705 00:33:54,068 --> 00:33:56,468 Speaker 1: good to talk positively about the New York Jets. You've 706 00:33:56,468 --> 00:33:58,108 Speaker 1: been through some stuff. Man, this is a good time 707 00:33:58,188 --> 00:34:01,308 Speaker 1: right now. Says yeah. I mean, what a draft, right? 708 00:34:01,428 --> 00:34:02,668 Speaker 1: I mean what you mean it was? It was a 709 00:34:02,748 --> 00:34:05,668 Speaker 1: franchise defining draft by the New York Jets. Literally, I mean, 710 00:34:06,028 --> 00:34:08,708 Speaker 1: change the narrative draft. You talk about getting four impact 711 00:34:08,788 --> 00:34:11,668 Speaker 1: players in the first two rounds, a guy at that 712 00:34:12,148 --> 00:34:13,708 Speaker 1: was probably the best at their position. If you talk 713 00:34:13,748 --> 00:34:16,228 Speaker 1: about Breeze Hall, Jermaine Johnson to me has the most 714 00:34:16,348 --> 00:34:19,348 Speaker 1: upside of the edge position. And then also Garrett Wilson, 715 00:34:19,388 --> 00:34:21,508 Speaker 1: the number one receiver, and then Sauce Garner. I mean, 716 00:34:21,548 --> 00:34:24,348 Speaker 1: the nickname says it all. Sauce he has that confidence. 717 00:34:24,348 --> 00:34:27,068 Speaker 1: So again, the finding draft for the New York Jets, 718 00:34:27,148 --> 00:34:28,868 Speaker 1: for sure. It's so fun to hear that. Man. It 719 00:34:28,908 --> 00:34:30,948 Speaker 1: feels good to say, doesn't it. One hundred percent? Like 720 00:34:30,988 --> 00:34:33,348 Speaker 1: you said, we've been through some times the last couple 721 00:34:33,348 --> 00:34:35,388 Speaker 1: of years. We've been reflecting on the playoffs in a 722 00:34:35,428 --> 00:34:39,348 Speaker 1: long time. No no, no, go snowmano, none of that stuff. 723 00:34:39,348 --> 00:34:41,268 Speaker 1: This is all very positive. But also tell us about 724 00:34:41,268 --> 00:34:43,388 Speaker 1: another team, another team just coming off the draft you 725 00:34:43,468 --> 00:34:46,308 Speaker 1: think did really well, the Baltimore Ravens. Right, there's there's 726 00:34:46,348 --> 00:34:49,508 Speaker 1: three things in life that are certain, right, death taxes, 727 00:34:49,548 --> 00:34:52,068 Speaker 1: and the Baltimore Ravens are gonna have a great draft. 728 00:34:52,108 --> 00:34:53,868 Speaker 1: If you look at their draft and what they do. 729 00:34:54,028 --> 00:34:56,468 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton to me the number one safety. They got 730 00:34:56,548 --> 00:34:59,948 Speaker 1: him at fourteen, and then also getting David Ojabo in 731 00:35:00,028 --> 00:35:02,068 Speaker 1: the second round, Like, this guy was a first round 732 00:35:02,108 --> 00:35:04,228 Speaker 1: talent at the edge. You pay him with oh y 733 00:35:04,668 --> 00:35:06,988 Speaker 1: Adolphe Oya on the outside, and also he's back with 734 00:35:07,108 --> 00:35:11,148 Speaker 1: his defensive Cornator mc McDonald coming back, Travis Jones in 735 00:35:11,228 --> 00:35:13,588 Speaker 1: the second round. I had this guy in the first round. 736 00:35:13,668 --> 00:35:16,508 Speaker 1: Defensive tackle Brandon Williams is gone. Now he's gonna help 737 00:35:16,508 --> 00:35:20,428 Speaker 1: with Clais Campbell on the inside. And then Daniel Right, 738 00:35:20,828 --> 00:35:23,028 Speaker 1: this guy kind of reminds me of Orlando Brown a 739 00:35:23,068 --> 00:35:24,908 Speaker 1: few years ago. They took in the third round Right, 740 00:35:25,108 --> 00:35:28,188 Speaker 1: six foot eight, three hundred and seventy plus pounds. Maler 741 00:35:28,228 --> 00:35:30,108 Speaker 1: can put his hands on you. I think he could 742 00:35:30,108 --> 00:35:32,348 Speaker 1: be their right tackle of the future. So the Baltimore 743 00:35:32,428 --> 00:35:35,268 Speaker 1: Ravens always do a really good job of drafting good talent. 744 00:35:35,308 --> 00:35:38,388 Speaker 1: And then Keth forgetting about my guy, shoun O'Hare. The center, 745 00:35:38,668 --> 00:35:41,308 Speaker 1: Tyler Lindon Ball, It's like the best center in the draft. 746 00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:43,908 Speaker 1: To me, he just looks like a Baltimore Raven right 747 00:35:44,028 --> 00:35:46,588 Speaker 1: tough guy, plays through the echo of the whistle and 748 00:35:46,628 --> 00:35:48,348 Speaker 1: at the end of the whistle, the echo through the 749 00:35:48,708 --> 00:35:50,868 Speaker 1: echo of the whistle. I think the Baltimore Ravens did 750 00:35:50,908 --> 00:35:53,228 Speaker 1: a really good job in this draft. Watson and Burg 751 00:35:53,268 --> 00:35:55,308 Speaker 1: are gonna have a tough time throwing on that secondary 752 00:35:55,388 --> 00:35:57,548 Speaker 1: this year. It was easy pickings last year. Not the case, 753 00:35:57,628 --> 00:36:00,228 Speaker 1: especially with those guys being healthy and then having Kyle Hamilton. 754 00:36:00,268 --> 00:36:02,188 Speaker 1: All Right, you played for the Jets. You also spend 755 00:36:02,228 --> 00:36:04,988 Speaker 1: time with the Niners. Your final season actually was in 756 00:36:05,068 --> 00:36:07,828 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. Okay, so let's talk debo. What do 757 00:36:07,908 --> 00:36:10,028 Speaker 1: you make in the situation. I think it's super weird. 758 00:36:10,108 --> 00:36:12,348 Speaker 1: The draft is passed. What's his trade value and what 759 00:36:12,428 --> 00:36:14,788 Speaker 1: do you think happens? I mean, I think his trade 760 00:36:14,868 --> 00:36:17,788 Speaker 1: value his lesson, but ultimately, I don't think it matters 761 00:36:17,868 --> 00:36:19,788 Speaker 1: what his trade value is. I don't see them moving 762 00:36:19,868 --> 00:36:22,028 Speaker 1: from him. I mean GM John Lynch has already come 763 00:36:22,068 --> 00:36:25,188 Speaker 1: out and say, like, I can't see a scenario where 764 00:36:25,188 --> 00:36:27,948 Speaker 1: I move on from Debo. Let's put this into perspective, guy. 765 00:36:28,588 --> 00:36:31,308 Speaker 1: They traded a lot of draft capital for Trey Lance 766 00:36:31,388 --> 00:36:32,948 Speaker 1: last year. He's going to get into his second year, 767 00:36:33,148 --> 00:36:35,388 Speaker 1: So you're telling me they're gonna trade the best offensive 768 00:36:35,428 --> 00:36:38,388 Speaker 1: weapon away. There was rumors supposedly the Jets offered the 769 00:36:38,468 --> 00:36:40,788 Speaker 1: number ten spot. I think if the Jets truly offered 770 00:36:40,788 --> 00:36:42,708 Speaker 1: the number ten spot, Deebo Samuel would have been a 771 00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:45,348 Speaker 1: New York Jet bote. I don't believe that that happened, right, 772 00:36:45,668 --> 00:36:48,068 Speaker 1: And if you're Kyle Shandahan at John Lynch, I mean 773 00:36:48,108 --> 00:36:51,028 Speaker 1: Deepo Samuel is one of the top five offensive players 774 00:36:51,108 --> 00:36:53,628 Speaker 1: in this league. So you got a young quarterback that's 775 00:36:53,668 --> 00:36:56,708 Speaker 1: gonna take over your franchise. Right, Supposedly, Jimmy Garoppolo is 776 00:36:56,748 --> 00:36:58,628 Speaker 1: going to be traded, That's what we thought. Had the 777 00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:00,788 Speaker 1: soldier surgery. May he may be on the team, but 778 00:37:00,868 --> 00:37:02,548 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna move forward with Trey Lance, and 779 00:37:02,588 --> 00:37:05,308 Speaker 1: there's no way that they're trading their number one offensive 780 00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:08,668 Speaker 1: piece and having Trey Lance come into that without having 781 00:37:08,708 --> 00:37:12,508 Speaker 1: a solidified weapon on the outside. Dude, you are a 782 00:37:12,588 --> 00:37:15,268 Speaker 1: couple of different jerseys your career. Right now, you're you're 783 00:37:15,348 --> 00:37:18,948 Speaker 1: rocking your spiffy jersey. Yeah, looking Cleveland and played together 784 00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:20,828 Speaker 1: with the Giants. You were with the Jets though for 785 00:37:20,868 --> 00:37:22,468 Speaker 1: a couple of years. We're going to test your allegiance 786 00:37:22,588 --> 00:37:25,108 Speaker 1: later on the show. I can't wait, but I want 787 00:37:25,148 --> 00:37:27,708 Speaker 1: to talk about Todd Bowles. I know Todd Bolzy for 788 00:37:27,788 --> 00:37:30,468 Speaker 1: my time in Cleveland. Everybody loved them as a defensive 789 00:37:30,468 --> 00:37:33,108 Speaker 1: back coach. You played under him as a head coach. 790 00:37:33,668 --> 00:37:36,468 Speaker 1: What is he like? What can Bucks players expect to 791 00:37:36,628 --> 00:37:38,668 Speaker 1: see from Bulls as a head coach? And what are 792 00:37:38,708 --> 00:37:41,868 Speaker 1: Buccaneers fans gonna get with Bolz at the helm? Yeah, 793 00:37:42,068 --> 00:37:44,308 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is a soft spoken guy. Doesn't do a 794 00:37:44,348 --> 00:37:46,308 Speaker 1: lot of yelling, doesn't do a lot of streatment. But 795 00:37:46,388 --> 00:37:49,068 Speaker 1: if he does, that means he's passionate about something. This 796 00:37:49,228 --> 00:37:51,028 Speaker 1: is a guy that's gonna expect to get Your best 797 00:37:51,348 --> 00:37:54,748 Speaker 1: effort is not negotiable, right, You're not understanding and doing 798 00:37:54,788 --> 00:37:57,508 Speaker 1: your assignment is not negostable. And he stands by that, 799 00:37:57,788 --> 00:37:59,268 Speaker 1: like he kind of got a bad rap with the 800 00:37:59,348 --> 00:38:01,268 Speaker 1: New York Jets. I remember my last year with him 801 00:38:01,468 --> 00:38:03,668 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen was his first year. Right. We brought 802 00:38:03,668 --> 00:38:05,828 Speaker 1: a lot of veterans in on that team. Brandon Marshall 803 00:38:06,148 --> 00:38:10,268 Speaker 1: brought back the rail reevers, Antonio Cromarti, Marcus Gilchris at 804 00:38:10,268 --> 00:38:12,908 Speaker 1: the safe the position, and Ryan Fitzpatrick end up starting 805 00:38:12,948 --> 00:38:14,548 Speaker 1: that year and he had a career year. Right. We 806 00:38:14,628 --> 00:38:16,508 Speaker 1: went ten to six, but at the end of that 807 00:38:16,828 --> 00:38:19,188 Speaker 1: season in Week seventeen, we lost to the Buffalo Bills. 808 00:38:19,508 --> 00:38:21,868 Speaker 1: Didn't get into the playoffs. Well, within the next two years, 809 00:38:21,908 --> 00:38:23,828 Speaker 1: they got rid of almost every veteran on that team 810 00:38:23,828 --> 00:38:26,148 Speaker 1: and then they drafted Sam Donald and we know how 811 00:38:26,228 --> 00:38:28,628 Speaker 1: that turned out, right, So he didn't have to live 812 00:38:28,708 --> 00:38:31,748 Speaker 1: stability at the quarterback position. Now with the Tampa Bay Bucks, 813 00:38:31,788 --> 00:38:34,708 Speaker 1: he has stability at the quarterback position. The number one 814 00:38:34,788 --> 00:38:37,268 Speaker 1: quarterback of all time, the Goat, Tom Brady, and he's 815 00:38:37,268 --> 00:38:39,148 Speaker 1: really put his hand print on that defense. We saw 816 00:38:39,468 --> 00:38:41,468 Speaker 1: when they won that Super Bowl two years ago, it 817 00:38:41,588 --> 00:38:43,308 Speaker 1: was really because of the defense, right, So he's got 818 00:38:43,348 --> 00:38:45,028 Speaker 1: his DPrint on that. So I think it's a good 819 00:38:45,108 --> 00:38:48,068 Speaker 1: thing that the team is already comfortable with Tod bows Right, 820 00:38:48,068 --> 00:38:49,908 Speaker 1: they kind of know what even about. So I think 821 00:38:49,908 --> 00:38:51,308 Speaker 1: he's gonna do a great job. I'm just glad he 822 00:38:51,348 --> 00:38:53,468 Speaker 1: got a second chance of Tampa real quick on Bowsy 823 00:38:53,588 --> 00:38:55,948 Speaker 1: on third down, Yeah, what's he doing. He's blitzing the house. 824 00:38:56,028 --> 00:38:58,148 Speaker 1: You know, he's blitzing the house man man on the 825 00:38:58,268 --> 00:39:01,308 Speaker 1: outside cover zero sometimes. We saw it in the playoffs 826 00:39:01,388 --> 00:39:05,348 Speaker 1: versus the La Rams. Right, he's gonna bank on blitzing 827 00:39:05,388 --> 00:39:07,228 Speaker 1: the house, making the quarterback and make a quick decision, 828 00:39:07,308 --> 00:39:09,108 Speaker 1: and he's gonna trust his corners on the other side. 829 00:39:09,268 --> 00:39:10,748 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I mean because you know, 830 00:39:10,788 --> 00:39:12,388 Speaker 1: I played for rich Wine as well, right, and he 831 00:39:12,468 --> 00:39:14,588 Speaker 1: was similar to that. Right, we had the roll Rivers 832 00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:16,788 Speaker 1: and Antonio Krimarti, So he liked to blitz the house 833 00:39:16,828 --> 00:39:18,748 Speaker 1: as well too, especially on third down, to make the 834 00:39:18,828 --> 00:39:20,028 Speaker 1: quarterback and make quick decisions.