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Speaker 1: Hello, becoming an icon and Nation Nation?

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Speaker 2: Is that what we're doing now?

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Speaker 3: Don't mess with my flow, and today we're switching things up.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Joseph, because we're discussing two icons, this time

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Speaker 4: for a roundup of their trail blazing careers.

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Speaker 3: Bruno Mars and Selena Gomez had an unapologetic choke hold

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Speaker 3: on the twenty.

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Speaker 4: Tens, so we've brought back our very special guest and girl,

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Speaker 4: Danny Sayan from Thetas Week of Podcasts to discuss both

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Speaker 4: of their impacts.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Lilianavoscaz.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an Icon.

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Speaker 4: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on

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Speaker 4: how today's most famous latinv stars have shaped pop culture.

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Speaker 1: And given the world some extra level.

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Speaker 2: Sit back and get comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Because we are going in the only way we know how,

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Speaker 3: with Buena's beras, Gonas, reesas and a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of opinions as we relive their greatest achievements on

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Speaker 4: our journey to find out what makes them so iconic.

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Speaker 4: I cannot believe that we have come to the end

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Speaker 4: of both Bruno and Selena.

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Speaker 2: This is going way too fast and I need to

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Speaker 2: slow down. This is not good. This is like my child.

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Speaker 2: He's growing up too fast. The podcast is going by

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Speaker 2: too fast.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, becoming an icon will never be the same. It's

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Speaker 3: like a year without rain. I feel like I've been

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Speaker 3: locked out of heaven, Like who.

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Speaker 2: Says okay, Okay, my sympathy's Joseph. Same here.

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Speaker 4: But I have a little surprise for you that's going

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Speaker 4: to maybe cheer you up. Do you remember the gorgeous Danny.

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Speaker 3: Saym Exki yows me, the fabulous voice behind the mic

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Speaker 3: ofs RICA podcast, the young Peruvian and bad psychologist.

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Speaker 1: How can I forget Well?

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Speaker 4: Lucky for you and for our listeners, she is back, Danny.

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Speaker 5: It's so good to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 3: Hi, guys, and you'll be absolutely gorgeous with your makeup

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Speaker 3: and your eyeliner stop.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me again. I love

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Speaker 6: your podcast, by the way.

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Speaker 4: You are so kind, and we loved having you on

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Speaker 4: because you bring such a different layer to the conversation,

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Speaker 4: and we thought who better than to lead us through

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Speaker 4: the lives of two massive stars who are still I

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Speaker 4: want to say, on the young end of their careers,

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Speaker 4: like it's not over yet. Like they are baby icons,

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Speaker 4: but they are true icons in their own right. And

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Speaker 4: both of them are interesting because while they're fiercely proud

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Speaker 4: of their heritage, neither Selena nor Bruno were born in

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Speaker 4: Mexico or Puerto Rico, respectively, but they're so proud of

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Speaker 4: it and they're so vocal about it. So, from your perspective, Danny,

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Speaker 4: how does their culture and heritage impact their music and

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Speaker 4: who they are as individuals and personalities in the pop

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Speaker 4: culture world today.

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Speaker 6: I feel that it has allowed them to be really

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Speaker 6: way throughout their career.

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Speaker 5: Because I love Selena Gomez.

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Speaker 1: Got me too. I love her so much. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: wait to talk about her.

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Speaker 4: You're in the right place, You're amongst friends. This is

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Speaker 4: the safe zone. This is a Selena safe zone.

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Speaker 5: Great, I love her.

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Speaker 4: Now We're gonna talk Bruno a little bit later, but

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Speaker 4: let's start with Selena, because I think when you hear

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Speaker 4: fame and you hear the word celebrity and paparazzi and

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Speaker 4: pop culture, I mean, she is the most followed woman

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Speaker 4: on Instagram, Selena has a really unique relationship with fame.

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Speaker 4: How would you characterize relationship with the Spotlight.

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Speaker 5: I think it has been really tough on her.

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Speaker 6: I love everything that she puts out there ever since

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Speaker 6: I was a kid and I watched her.

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Speaker 5: I watched her on Barney and.

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Speaker 6: Wizards of Waverly Plays and all throughout her starts on

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Speaker 6: her star career on Disney Channel. But I remember when

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Speaker 6: she came out with this statement of it was too

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Speaker 6: much for her. At first I didn't understand, but then

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Speaker 6: a lot. I can understand why she had to take

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Speaker 3: Feel like the reason she is one of the most

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Speaker 3: you know, so. I think her vulnerability also was just

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Speaker 6: Also, I think me growing up in Peru and watching

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Speaker 5: Oh I could do it.

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Speaker 6: Oh she may be believe that I was capable of

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Speaker 4: I will say that I'm just going to play a

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Speaker 4: little bit of Devil's advocate because you know, as an

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Speaker 4: entertainment reporter, I see both sides of the coin, and

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Speaker 4: I think what happens, and you see this happening a lot. Now,

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Speaker 4: at least it's different because we have social media and

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Speaker 4: they can control the narrative a little bit more. But

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Speaker 4: back when Selena was coming up, and you know, the

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Speaker 4: first round with Justin, I think what happens is if

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Speaker 4: an entertainer lets you into their let's call a figurative house, right,

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Speaker 4: they open the doors, they invite you in, they share

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Speaker 4: a lot. It's very very hard to get the people

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Speaker 4: people that overstayed with Selena. And so I think it's

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Speaker 4: hard because you want to invite people in, you want

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Speaker 4: you want to feel real. She wants to feel like

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Speaker 4: the little girl that grew up in Dallas, right, But

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Speaker 4: you're not. You are a global icon followed by you know,

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Speaker 4: so it works in your favor when you're on the

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Speaker 4: and butterflies. But what starts to happen when real life

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Speaker 4: observing you in those vulnerable states. And so that for me,

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Speaker 4: has been hard for her because she was so accessible

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Speaker 4: And it's hard because we're an insatiable monster. That's what

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Speaker 4: happens with entertainment. We create this relationship that is a

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer here, but like,

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Speaker 4: let's be honest, none of this is real.

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Speaker 2: These people don't know you, they're not your friends.

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Speaker 4: Like I see this a lot when I see like

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Speaker 4: Like she's not actually inviting you to her townhouse in

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Speaker 4: with her. And like Kara Della Vine, it is all

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Speaker 4: built to create a false sense of closeness. And I

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Speaker 4: think what was unique about Selena is she made that

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Speaker 4: so we were very invested in everything that she did,

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Speaker 4: including obviously her relationship with Justin, obviously her music, her films,

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Speaker 2: We wanted in on.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, nobody can handle that level

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Speaker 1: That's so hard.

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Speaker 4: That's why when you see the show and you watch

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Speaker 4: the documentary, I, as an entertainment reporter, felt bad because

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Speaker 6: A lot of people in the past, or people that

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Speaker 6: many celebrities from that time opening up and being, oh,

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Speaker 6: this is my documentary.

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Speaker 5: I actually went through it.

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Speaker 6: But I think what was I guess harder for Selena

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Speaker 6: was that she was growing up. She grew up without

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Speaker 6: setting any type of boundary. I think now with social media,

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Speaker 6: it's easier for people to put themselves out there, but

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Speaker 6: to a certain degree of Okay, this is where I

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Speaker 6: draw the line of I'm not going to let people

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Speaker 6: into my privacy like that. But before fame was controlling

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Speaker 6: a completely different way where you needed to connect with

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Speaker 5: So you can draw the line.

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Speaker 3: So like bottom line right now with Selena's relationship with fame,

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Speaker 3: right now, where is she like after the documentary, now

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Speaker 3: that she has wear Beauty, now that she's like back

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Speaker 1: Like, where where do you guys think she actually is?

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go back to Facebook. I think that's

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Speaker 4: a great question, Joseph. I think that my answer to

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Speaker 4: that is that remember when Facebook used to have a

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Speaker 3: I think it's yes, it's my relationship status right now

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Speaker 2: Okay complicated for her.

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Speaker 4: For a lot of celebrities, being able to control the

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Speaker 4: that she can turn it on and turn it off

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Speaker 2: The way, she does.

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Speaker 4: She goes dark on TikTok or on Instagram when she

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Speaker 4: needs a break, and what has happened is she doesn't

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Speaker 4: need mass media to speak to her fans anymore.

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Speaker 2: I always say this, like, you know, entertainment.

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Speaker 4: News shows like the shows I worked on for a

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Speaker 4: They want to hear it from the source, and the

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Speaker 2: So I think it's complicated.

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Speaker 4: I think she turns up the mic when she needs

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Speaker 4: support for her projects, when she wants to get out

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Speaker 2: And then she turns it down when she needs a break.

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Speaker 2: And good for her.

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Speaker 4: I actually think this is an amazing thing, especially for

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Speaker 4: actresses or musicians. I think it's important for them to

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Speaker 4: hold those reins because for so long they didn't and

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Speaker 6: I feel like she especially recently with the whole TikTok

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Speaker 6: the live and she said, well, I need a break,

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Speaker 6: and then she took the break. She was like, I

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Speaker 6: I really respect that.

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Speaker 4: And I think that also shows her growth and maturity

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Speaker 1: In terms of like scandal, fame, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 4: He's no drama, He's Mary J. Blige, no drama in

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Speaker 4: How did they get on the list for you personally, Danny,

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Speaker 5: I feel with him it's just been more with music.

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Speaker 6: That just the way you are, oh, this beautiful masterpiece.

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Speaker 6: When I was your man, when I was your way?

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Speaker 5: I was just not the thing, Nothing really happened.

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Speaker 4: He is so lyrically and musically ahead of his contemporaries

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Speaker 4: Nobody composes like Bruno, Nobody dances like Bruno, Nobody plays

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Speaker 3: I agree with you one million percent where I have

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Speaker 3: Separate category of music that you know, he's considered what

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Speaker 4: You're right because he has also not released new music

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Speaker 4: Do you know anything about something forthcoming with him?

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Speaker 2: Have you heard any intel at least recently?

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Speaker 5: None?

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Speaker 3: But wait, hold on, I do know who else has

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Speaker 3: new music out right now? Ooh, Selena, Selena Gomez. I mean,

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Speaker 3: have you heard the song?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: What were the very first thoughts that you had as

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Speaker 1: Like it played and you were like.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the name by the way, in case you

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Speaker 4: very good. I actually really like it. I think it's

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Speaker 2: Her relationship history.

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Speaker 6: Heard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people heard this song and immediately thought it was

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Speaker 4: and listen. It's relatable. The song is super relatable. I

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Speaker 6: No, I have not heard it, but I just want

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Speaker 6: She just wanted to make a song. Why is everybody

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Speaker 5: Maybe she's just amazing at.

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Speaker 6: Whatever she does, like she doesn't need to be related

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, you know what, Nanny, I'm going to give

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Speaker 3: Before you listen to the song and all of the

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Speaker 3: watch the video. I think when you watch the music video,

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Speaker 3: It gives you the visuals. So when you watch it,

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 4: I'm into that. I like the idea of watching and

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Speaker 4: like it takes me back. I mean, Danny, you're way

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Speaker 3: Young hold on, but we used to be young, Daniel, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Young, well, one time we were young and hot.

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Speaker 1: I yes, wait, TRL, stop it. You're not going to

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Speaker 4: I am I'm going to do it. I'm the grandmother yo,

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Speaker 4: excited to watch TRL Total Request Live with Carson Daily

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Speaker 4: and all the stars would go to Times Square and

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Speaker 4: That's how we didn't have VVO and YouTube. We watched

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Speaker 1: Yes, one thousand percent. It takes you there, It takes

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Speaker 6: I feel the visuals are so important to a song.

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Speaker 6: Every time I hear a song, I if it has

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Speaker 6: it's there for a reason. They put effort into directing

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Speaker 5: Everything is for a reason. I always say that.

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Speaker 2: No, it's true. It's like your eye has to be trained.

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Speaker 4: You watch it multiple times cause you're like looking for

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Speaker 4: you know, not to like again give a Taylor Swift reference,

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Speaker 4: and it's so fun to uncover that. Now we're talking

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Speaker 2: What are each of your favorite Selena songs?

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Speaker 5: All of them?

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Speaker 2: Danny, I love you?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to go calm down. I just I

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Speaker 3: love it. I love it. I love that song so much,

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Speaker 3: Lose you to love Me because that was my like

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Speaker 3: it still is my relationship thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I have to hear it all.

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Speaker 2: The time, you know, some shit beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It's so good.

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Speaker 3: And my number one favorite song that she's ever came

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Speaker 3: out with is called who Says.

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Speaker 5: Oh My God, ever ever.

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Speaker 3: Ever ever on on planet Earth a kit like ever.

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Speaker 3: It's my favorite song on a planet. Who says? That's it?

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Speaker 1: That's me, Danny, Who's you?

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Speaker 5: Okay? I have to say love your like a love song. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's just the classic I love song. Baby.

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Speaker 2: It's like such an easy beat.

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Speaker 5: I just I grew up to that, So I love

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Speaker 6: I still have it on my favorite playlist. I also

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Speaker 5: I just love her so much.

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Speaker 6: And also I mean, of course, the heart wants what

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Speaker 2: Ooh, you guys picked such good ones.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, what are you gonna say? What are yours? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no no.

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Speaker 4: I mean going last is obviously the worst position because

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Speaker 4: you've already actually named two of my three.

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Speaker 2: So Joseph, lose you to love me? I agree.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of videos, I love that video. I cry when

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Speaker 4: I watch that. I think it's such a beautiful song.

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Speaker 4: It's raw, it's Selena. I also love her voice on

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Speaker 4: that on that particular track, love You Like a Love Song,

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Speaker 4: It's just there. It does not get more classic Selena

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Speaker 4: which you guys did not name, is Same Old Love.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you why. I got to listen to

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Speaker 4: her soundcheck on that song on Jimmy Fallen. Oh my god, Yes, Joseph,

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Speaker 4: when we worked at E News, she sang that song.

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Speaker 4: She did Same Old Love, and I got to sneak

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Speaker 3: She would sneak in everywhere, Danny, she was always going

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Speaker 3: off limits. She snuck into Bad Bunny's room, and stole

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Speaker 3: his grapes. I'm serious, we have video. Anyways, Wait, she's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wait so you were in there? Oh yes.

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Speaker 4: In my defense, Danny, the reason that I was able

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Speaker 4: to access these places, including Bad Bunnies dressing room and

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Speaker 4: News across the hall from Jimmy Fallon, So all of

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Speaker 4: Joseph made me sound like a criminal. I had an

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Speaker 1: Literally you could we could see them. You open the door,

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Speaker 1: You open the door and they're there.

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Speaker 5: You sound like a great badic Yah Bunny's.

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Speaker 4: So for me, I was like, Wow, I'd never seen

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Speaker 4: her concerts, I'd never seen her perform live, and she

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Speaker 4: was so good and so sweet, and like, I just

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Speaker 4: connected to that song because it's really cool to see

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Speaker 4: someone soundcheck a song like that and watch her. It's

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Speaker 4: not that I don't want to say perfectionism, because I

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Speaker 4: think that has a bad tone, but to see how

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Speaker 4: professional she was and how every single thing she wanted

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Speaker 4: to check off the list. She took it so seriously

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Speaker 4: and I was like, Wow, she is a fucking pro.

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Speaker 4: I love this girl like I love her and the

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Speaker 4: song killed it that night, and I remember watching the

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Speaker 4: show being like she performed it better than in soundcheck,

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Speaker 4: like she's she's amazing. So that's those are my three

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Speaker 4: top favorite Selena songs, which we have a lot of

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Speaker 4: crossover on.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I do want to get to Bruno songs.

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Speaker 4: Because he has a vast catalog, not a new catalog,

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Speaker 4: but a vast catalog. So I'm gonna go to Danny first,

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Speaker 4: top three Bruno Mars songs just the way you are.

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Speaker 5: Of course, I have a lot I don't.

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Speaker 6: I have treasure, of course, and I'm between the Lacy song,

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Speaker 6: m H and Uptown Funk. I'm between those, but I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna say the lazy song.

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Speaker 2: The lazy song.

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Speaker 1: Is simple.

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Speaker 3: I'm only gonna do one Bruno Mars song. It's Lucked

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Speaker 3: out of Heaven. That's it, just one. That's what I give.

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Speaker 1: That's all I have for the.

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Speaker 3: Your list is going to go on, just like Danny

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Speaker 3: was trying to flip fit in four, so give us too.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'll give you a stree Okay. Versace on

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Speaker 2: the floor.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh yes, like take off all my clothes. That

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Speaker 4: is like I hate again another word, panty dropper. I

478
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Speaker 4: hate that word. I hate that love that word. How

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Speaker 4: am I not surprised that Joseph Garriol loves the term

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Speaker 4: panty dropper. Versace on the floor. It's sensual, it's sexy,

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Speaker 4: it's giving like a.

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Speaker 5: Whole amazing, it's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Another song that I think people overlook all the time

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Speaker 4: and again to me like a masterful song is Runaway Baby.

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Speaker 2: He sang it at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: It's a full orchestra, the band is dancing, he's dancing.

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Speaker 2: He slows it down, he builds it up.

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Speaker 4: He shows you, like how important is cadence in a

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Speaker 4: song timing like it's to me.

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Speaker 2: That's like so good.

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Speaker 4: And then I love Treasure because my son sings it

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Speaker 4: and like forever for the rest of my life. Anytime

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Speaker 4: I hear it, I'm just going to think of like

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Speaker 4: Santi's little voice in his car seat singing Treasure in

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Speaker 4: the backseat.

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Speaker 2: He goes, that is what you are, Golden Star. Record

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Speaker 2: it well, Danny, before we let you go, I want

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Speaker 2: you to like, put your thinking cap on your fan

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Speaker 2: hat on. What do you think the future holds for

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Speaker 2: Bruno and Selena?

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Speaker 6: Hopefully I want to hear more songs from Bruno Mars.

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Speaker 6: I miss his songs even though I listen to them

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Speaker 6: probably on the daily, but I miss I want more songs,

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Speaker 6: So hopefully that and for Selena, I really hope.

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Speaker 5: I just I prayed to the gods that.

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Speaker 6: She maybe puts on some type of concert for I

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Speaker 6: know it's just like a long shot, okay.

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Speaker 5: But hear me out.

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Speaker 6: I really wish she would just put on a concert

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Speaker 6: with her new single, but also sing in her old songs.

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Speaker 6: Now that I think about it, that is a lot

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Speaker 6: of pressure. I just need her to sing live. I

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Speaker 6: just I just need her to sing live. I didn't

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Speaker 6: need to go see her because when I was a kid,

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Speaker 6: I would I wouldn't beg my parents be like, please,

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Speaker 6: can I go to a concert? My parents were like,

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Speaker 6: concerts are dangerous for little kids.

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Speaker 4: I was like, okay, well, I'm about to put something

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Speaker 4: out there that I think would be so major.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's just speak it into existence.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: We know that Shakira is being honored at the VMA's.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be amazing to hear Selina sing a Shakira song,

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Speaker 4: introducing Shakira, them duet together.

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Speaker 2: And then have Shakira take it from her.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, how in the world did you even

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Speaker 3: just think of that right now? Or have you been

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Speaker 3: marinating on that? Because that is fucking wild and genius

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Speaker 3: at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Uh No, that just came to me and Danny's right.

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Speaker 4: We haven't heard Selena sing live in a long time,

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Speaker 4: and what better way to honor another fellow Latina icon

533
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Speaker 4: like Shakier than at the VMA's.

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Speaker 2: I'm just setting the state.

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Speaker 4: I don't have any insight, I don't have intel, but listen,

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Speaker 4: when you speak things into existence magic.

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Speaker 6: Please and yes magic manifest it, manifest it.

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Speaker 4: So Danny, thank you so much for being here. We

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Speaker 4: love chatting with you guys, and if you want more

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Speaker 4: from Danny, make sure you check out her.

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Speaker 2: Esthas Rika podcast.

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Speaker 4: you guys for listening.

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