1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Dabac podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: you listen. It's Friday, the first of March in London. 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hepkit. 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. Left wing disruptor 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: George Galloway becomes a British MP once again after a 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: by election dominated by Gaza. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: In China, slowing factory activity raises new questions over the 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: health of the world's second biggest economy. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: And taking it in their stride, FED officials worn against 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: over analyzing the latest sticky inflation data. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: Let's start with a round up of our top stories. 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: George Galloway has won a seat in Parliament in the 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 2: Rochdale by election with a campaign calling for the end 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: for an end to the conflict in Gaza. The left 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: wing disruptor says voters wanted to send the Labor Party 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: a message. 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: This Gaza. 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: Andrew Wilbe high Price. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: Galloway is a former Labor MP who was kicked out 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: of the party in two thousand and three for rebelling 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: over the Iraq War. He won the election by a 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: landslide James Walcock has more now on the results. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 5: It is a major headache for Kiss Starmer. George Galloway 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 5: won double the votes of Labour and the Conservative candidates 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 5: put together. The result will add to the sense of 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: disarray in British politics as tensions over the war in 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 5: Gaza spillover Rochdale, where the substantial Muslim population had been 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 5: held by Labour since twenty ten. But Starmer has owned 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 5: his own candidate in the race after they accused Israel 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 5: at being complicit in the October seventh attacks. The scale 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 5: of Galloway's win raises questions about how Labor lost a 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 5: safe seat to a one man rebuke of their party 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 5: in London. James Walcock Bloomberg Radio. 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: The United Nations Security Council has called an urgent meeting 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: after one hundred and twelve people were reportedly killed during 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: an aid delivery in girls Up. The hamas Ran Health 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Ministry says that Israeli troops opened fire at people trying 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: to lift food from trucks. Israel's chief military spokesperson, Daniel Hagari, 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: insists they did not target civilians. These reel defense forces 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: operate according to the rules of engagement and the international law. 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: No IDF strike was conducted towards the eight convoy. The 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: IDEF says most of the victims were trampled or hit 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: as the truck sought to escape the chaos, but the 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: facts remain in dispute. President Joe Biden warned that the 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: deadly incident threatens to further set back efforts to negotiate 47 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: a cease fire. 48 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: Factory activity in China has slowed for the fifth month 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: in a row, as weak demand stunt's growth. Official PMI 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: data for February dropped to forty nine point one, down 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: from January, but still slightly above the median forecast of 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: forty nine by from economists surveyed by Bloomberg. The news 53 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: comes after appliance maker Bosch's CEO Stefan Hartung told Bloomberg 54 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: that his sector is feeling the effects of the slowdown 55 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: in China. 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 6: In general, the economy, you know, is not growing as 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 6: fast as it was anticipated some years ago, so we're 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 6: talking about a lower growth number, and that's what we 59 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 6: feel specifically, also in the home appliance business, also in 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 6: the construction related business, because you all know the construction 61 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 6: business and the real estate business. In China is in 62 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 6: a trough. 63 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: That's BOSH CEO Stephan Hartung speaking to Bloomberg. Chinese non 64 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: manufacturing activity beat estimates, highlighting an uneven recovery in the 65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: world's second largest economy. Economists expect President Chiotingping's government to 66 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: announce a fairly ambitious twenty twenty four growth goal when 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: the legislature meet meets next week. 68 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: The Federal Reserves preferred inflation metric has risen at its 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: fastest pace in nearly a year. Recent data shows the 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: core Personal consumption Expenditures price index rose by zero point 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: four percent from December to two and a half percent, 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: so above the FEDS two percent target. Despite the jump, 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: the Bank of San Francisco President Mary Daily says that 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: policy makers are ready to lower US interest rates. 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: We want to avoid holding on all the way to 76 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: two percent. They're putting policy very tight and then cause 77 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: an unnecessary downturn. We are agile, and we're sitting in 78 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: what I call the ready position. We are ready to 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 4: make moves and adjust as the data demand us to do, 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: and I think right now the economy and policy you 81 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: are in a good place to do that. 82 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: The Fed's Mary Daily, speaking to Bloomberg. Then the inflation 83 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: news comes as US consumer spending dropped for the first 84 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: time in five months. According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Shows in New York Community Bank Orp have plunged by 86 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: twenty two percent in extended trading. The massive drop comes 87 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: after the American lender took a two point four billion 88 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: dollar hit to earning as it identified weakness with its 89 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: loan review process. The story from Gloomberg's Charlie Palace. 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 7: The bank also said it needs more time to file 91 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 7: its annual report to regulators as it shores up its 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 7: internal controls. In a separate filing, NYCB said Quote management 93 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 7: identified material weaknesses in the company's internal controls related to 94 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 7: internal loan review resulting from ineffective oversight, risk management, and 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 7: monitoring activities. The announcement reignites a drama that erupted at 96 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 7: the end of January when the bank slashed its dividend 97 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 7: and stockpiled cash to cover troubled loans in New York. 98 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 7: Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Radio. 99 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: UK consumers are tightening their belts as the country navigates 100 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: a technical recession. Bloomberg's teama Ada Bayer has the details. 101 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 8: One of the wettest februaries on record, seems to have 102 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 8: also dampened the spirits of the country shoppers. According to 103 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 8: new data from the British Retail Consortium, the number of 104 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 8: Uky's store visitors dropped six point two percent from last year, 105 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 8: with London among the worst performing regents. Even the usual 106 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 8: profit driving holidays such as Valentine's Day failed to woo customers, 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 8: casting doubt on hopes of an economic revival bolstered after 108 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 8: retail sales rebounded in January. The latest figures put the 109 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 8: UK behind its European peers and underscore the challenge facing 110 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 8: Richie Sunak, who hopes to turn the economy around before 111 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 8: this year's general election in London. Tiwa Adabayo Bloomberg Radio. 112 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: Now in a moment, we'll bring you more on the 113 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Rochdale election result for a new MP and also look 114 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: at what the latest US economic data means for the 115 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve. But then this also caught Onia. We've been 116 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: thinking about this because next week in China got the 117 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: National People's Congress taking place. This is one of the 118 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: most sort of significant gatherings. Reading the latest piece from 119 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: our opinion Colomist Karishma Vesuani on this about really the 120 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: direction of China. The Chinese parliament has given this unprecedented 121 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: amount of control to she that he's sort of exerted 122 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: over the political system over people in China. Kishima Veswani 123 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: is saying, you know, this is quite a significant event, 124 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: talking about you know, strong men often squeezing countries, but 125 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: squeezing them too far, and she's putting Sijinping in that camp. 126 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's kind of saying, this is a moment 127 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: also for Hijinping to perhaps demonstrate a shift in his 128 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: leadership if he wants to try and inspire the confidence 129 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 2: not only in his management of the economy, but also 130 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: more importantly in consumers, which would help the economic situation too. 131 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Yes, so political legitimacy resting on economic accomplishments, you know, 132 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: and trying to raise the living standards nearly one point 133 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: four billion people, But how do you do that? In fact, 134 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: the meeting next week has been delayed for quite some time, 135 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: so that's also been underline perhaps is problematic. 136 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: That's one of the events we're watching out for in 137 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: the coming days. But let's get more now on the 138 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: overnight BI election results here in the UK. They left 139 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: wing candidate, former Labor MP, George Galloway was elected after 140 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: a campaign that focused on calling for an end to 141 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: the conflict in Gaza. Our UK correspondent Lizzie Burden is 142 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: with us from More this morning. Lizzie, good morning to you. 143 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: Take us through the results then, and what led to 144 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: George Galloway being elected. 145 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 9: Well, the run of Labor by election victories is over. 146 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 9: George Galloway won thirty nine percent of the vote for 147 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 9: the Workers Party, second place as an independent candidate, third 148 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 9: place the Conservatives and in sixth place the Reform Party, 149 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 9: which of course has been something of a threat to 150 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 9: the Conservatives recently. But you'll remember the Labor candidate had 151 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 9: to be dropped over his comments over the Israel Hamas war. 152 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 9: He came in fourth and it adds to the sense 153 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 9: of chaos over the situation in the Middle East and 154 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 9: the sense of chaos about Islamophobia and anti Semitism here 155 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 9: in Britain. Rochdale is a former mill town. It's near Manchester, 156 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 9: It's got a big Muslim population, had been Labors. But 157 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 9: this sort of chaos is exactly the environment that a 158 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 9: character like George Galloway thrives in. He was expelled as 159 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 9: a Labor MP in two thousand and three over comments 160 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 9: over the Iraq War. He's made a career out of 161 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 9: whipping up anger in Muslim communities. And his argument was 162 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 9: that Starmer hadn't taken a strong enough line on Israel. 163 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 9: You heard him in the headlines there. This is for 164 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 9: Gaza was what he said when he won. 165 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so the question how relevant is this then 166 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: at a national level, because it perhaps seems to have 167 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: been driven so much by one foreign policy issue. 168 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, We're always trying to see whether by election results 169 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 9: can be used as some sort of barometer for the 170 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 9: general election. The idea is this isn't likely to affect that, 171 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 9: and actually Labour's going to fancy its chances taking the 172 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 9: seat back when it comes to the general election. But 173 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 9: it gives George Galloway a few months in Parliament to 174 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 9: pour salt in the gaping wounds in Starmer's party over 175 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 9: and in this particular case, Starmer was accused of acting 176 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 9: too late to withdraw support for Azar Ali, the candidate 177 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 9: for Labor there, for implementing double standards since he took 178 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 9: over as leader from Jeremy Corbyn by being harsh on 179 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 9: the left wingers associated with anti Semitism, but more lenient 180 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,359 Speaker 9: with the Centrists in the same boat. So the difficulties 181 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 9: on this continued for Kirsedtarmer. 182 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Conservatives came in third Lizzie in this by election. 183 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: This as Rishi Sinak is facing a very different problem, 184 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: and this is accusations of Islamophobia. 185 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, the former Deputy party chairman of the Conservative Party 186 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 9: said that Islamists have got control of London and that 187 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 9: the Muslim labor mayor Sadik Khan had given control of 188 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 9: the capital to his mates. And after that you had 189 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 9: ministers falling over themselves on the airwaves, simply unable to 190 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 9: say that this was Islamophobic rather than wrong. And it 191 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 9: plays into a bigger battle for the leadership of the 192 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 9: Conservative Party. A threat to Rishie Sunak is Suella Bradham 193 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 9: and the former Home Secretary. She says that Islam is 194 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 9: a threat to the British way of life. And indeed 195 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 9: you heard Liz Trust, the former Prime Minister, stateside last 196 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 9: week speaking to Steve Bannon, saying that her premiership was 197 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 9: sabotaged by the deep state, and she says a radical 198 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 9: Islamic Party could win in Rochdale, by which she supposedly 199 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 9: meant George Galloway. 200 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that aside, then we still have to think 201 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: about the budget next Wednesday. The latest that we're hearing 202 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: on Jeremy Hunt's plan. 203 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 9: I'll start with the obvious. He's thought to be planning 204 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 9: an extension to the fuel duty cut. That was kind 205 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 9: of a given given it's perennially framed as a temporary 206 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 9: measure so that the long term sums add up, and 207 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 9: yet it keeps coming back. So perhaps more interestingly, we 208 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 9: are hearing that Jeremy Hunt's considering extending the windfall the 209 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 9: energy profits levy on oil and gas companies that was 210 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 9: due to expire in March twenty twenty eight. He's also 211 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 9: thought to be looking to scrap the Non Doms policy, 212 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 9: so basically measures that raise money, so he's got space 213 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 9: to cut personal taxes pre election, but also steal Labour's 214 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 9: clothes so that they can't spend the money on whatever 215 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 9: they want because the government's already allocated, so it'd leave 216 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 9: labor hamstrung for cash to spend. Because they've also said 217 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 9: they won't raise the three main rates of income tax, 218 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 9: National insurance and value added tax. 219 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Lizzie Burden, thank you very much, are UK correspondent. 220 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: Now from the UK to the US, stocks hit record 221 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: highs after the Federal reserves preferred measure of inflation came 222 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: in as estimated for the fourth month of January. The 223 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: core pceedflate of rose by four tenths of one percent 224 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: in January, the fastest pace since early twenty twenty three. 225 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: Jobless claims data showed a slight softening in the labor 226 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: market from the previous month. Our senior editor Bill Ferries 227 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: joins us out for more so Marcus Chid these data releases. 228 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: Why though, if inflation is still there, does it make 229 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: the Fed's path ahead clearer? 230 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: Markets are happy that there's no bad surprises. That's really 231 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: That's really kind of the bar we're looking at at 232 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: this point. You're right, the you know, some of these 233 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: numbers came in a little bit higher than expected, but 234 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: the job market was a little softer. Uh it does 235 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: you know, it's been a it's been a rock a 236 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: few months when it comes to people's expectations about when 237 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: rate cuts would happen. At one point it was almost 238 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: one hundred percent at a March cut that is appears 239 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: to be clearly off the table. But the numbers we 240 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: saw make June a possibility, and that's what I think 241 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: markets were rallying around. That's what they wanted to hear. 242 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 2: At this point, we've been hearing from a few FAT 243 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: officials as well, underlining again the importance of data for 244 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: their decision making. So so what are the next key 245 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: data points we need to be watching for? 246 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 3: Well, you're right, I think that's you know, that's been 247 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: their message throughout. You know, we'll get more data even 248 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: later today if you if if depending on you know, 249 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: how to let you stay up for it. We've got 250 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: University of Michigan inflation expectations, consumer sentiment that will be 251 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: something markets are looking at. H. We've got ism manufacturing 252 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: coming in uh, and there's there's more similar data coming 253 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: next week. So UH, the FED is going to be 254 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: looking at all of that. I think, you know, we're 255 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: already in March at this point. And the big question, 256 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: and you hear this from the the from a lot 257 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: of the FED speakers who have been speaking out recently, Uh, 258 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: there does seem to be a consensus that, uh, there's 259 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: going to be a rate cut or rate cuts this year, 260 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: and it's just a matter of you know, will that 261 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: happen on June or will you know, we will we 262 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: see data in the coming weeks that makes uh, that 263 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: makes policy makers and the markets think that it gets 264 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: pushed back a little bit further again. 265 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Meanwhile, we've also had this warning from PIMCO over 266 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: the US budget deficit and the risk of bond vigilantes. 267 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: What are they worried about. 268 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a back to the nineteen eighties, 269 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: I think with PEMCO and some of their concerns, and frankly, 270 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: they've been flagging their doubts about the US fiscal policy 271 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: for quite a long time now. Their concern is that 272 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: holders of longer term treasuries are going to start to 273 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: demand a higher premium to not switch into shorter term 274 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: notes given how sticky inflation could be, and frankly, the 275 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: US government's inability to really have a process for creating 276 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: a budget. We just saw the US Congress now passing 277 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: an additional one week extension to try to keep to 278 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: try to prevent a shutdown, but it's literally it's a 279 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: one week extension. At this point, it's highly likely we'll 280 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: get another one. The whole process for putting together the 281 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: US budget has become very much broken and dysfunctional, and 282 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: there's with elections later this year, there's no sign that 283 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: that's going to be changing anytime soon. 284 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 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