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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. John Schmulk Lance medal with

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Speaker 1: do so at hashtag Giants Chat Giants. When their second

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Speaker 1: in a row. There streaking folks. They beat their Redskins

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Speaker 1: to three, and Lance even though at halftime it was,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was relatively close game, only a couple

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Speaker 1: of scores. He never really got the sense that the

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Speaker 1: Redskins are in this game. After the Giants got their

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Speaker 1: first two touchdowns, No, not at all. Redskins couldn't run

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Speaker 1: the football, John Adrian Peterson eleven carries twenty eight years,

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Speaker 1: it was non existed. Yeah, I was gonna get to

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Speaker 1: that next, but you took the words right out of

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Speaker 1: my mouth. Two of eleven on third down. I would

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Speaker 1: agree with you. I think as long as the Giants

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Speaker 1: had at least a touchdown lead in this game, you

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Speaker 1: felt as if there was really never going to be

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Speaker 1: an opportune moment for the Redskins to shake things up.

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Speaker 1: And make things interesting. Because even when the Giants turned

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Speaker 1: the ball over four times, you think that that would

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Speaker 1: be laying out the had carpet for the Redskins. John Nope,

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Speaker 1: Washington couldn't capitalized on it. And you can't capitalize on

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Speaker 1: when a team turns up all over four times, there's

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Speaker 1: no hope. Didn't help that the Redskins had turnovers of

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Speaker 1: their own, of course, canceled out the Giants mistakes. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins looked like a rookie in his debut. He

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Speaker 1: threw three interceptions, just not have seventeen a hundred and

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Speaker 1: seven yards. He had trouble getting them set at the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. He had a couple he had won

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Speaker 1: de lay a game. He had two timeouts to avoid

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Speaker 1: the lay of games. Well, they had twelve penalties as

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Speaker 1: a team, right, and I think at one point they

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Speaker 1: had more penalty yards in total yards in that first

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Speaker 1: more penalties than first downs in the game. Also not

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Speaker 1: what you're looking for. So I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are you know, obviously everyone's to talk about Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: But to me, Lands, that's not the story of the games.

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Speaker 1: For me, the story of this game is the Giants defense.

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Speaker 1: They kind of carry the work and quite frankly, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the plan that they had in the second

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Speaker 1: half of that Bucks game and applied it for the

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Speaker 1: entire game to the Redskins. Now, this might not work

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Speaker 1: moving forward, depending on the team you play, but for

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Speaker 1: these six quarters, it's been an effective strategy. According to

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, Lands they blit only five times yesterday,

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Speaker 1: not counting the Sun and Night game because I didn't

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Speaker 1: check the numbers again this morning. That was fewer blitzer

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Speaker 1: than any other team in the entire league yesterday. So

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Speaker 1: they just didn't put their guys in situations where they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of help. They ran man fewer

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Speaker 1: times than they have all year, They played more zone.

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Speaker 1: They still played some man, mind you, and they actually

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Speaker 1: they ran less man, they ran more zone. They had

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Speaker 1: a little bit more to safety deep rather than one

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Speaker 1: safety high. A big part of that, well, you can

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Speaker 1: play two safeties deep when you're not worried about the run, right,

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Speaker 1: and the Redskins have struggled run the ball all year long,

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Speaker 1: So I thought those type of adjustments were the some

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Speaker 1: of the things that helped them be effective in this game. Granted,

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Speaker 1: of course the Redskins were depleted, they changed quarterbacks, that

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Speaker 1: was in the mix too, but given it was the

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Speaker 1: same type of stuff they did in the second half

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Speaker 1: and I think part of probably why they went to

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Speaker 1: missed that. John's in fact that I think that second

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Speaker 1: of the game. Well, it absolutely was, That's what Jake

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Speaker 1: Bruden said after the game. Well, Keena was on the

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Speaker 1: injury report Wednesday with the foot injury. He was in

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Speaker 1: And then I think after the first few series, Jake

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Speaker 1: I still think that Jake Gruden probably would have went

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Speaker 1: That wasn't necessarily the case, and the depth chart called

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Speaker 1: want a piggyback off of what you just said, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: This is not to take anything away from the Giants victory,

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Speaker 1: but I think perspective is important to bring to the forefront. Perspective.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try to at least be a little bit

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Speaker 1: different compared to the rest of the internet that. Now

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Speaker 1: that I've prefaced my convents, I think I'll go on ahead.

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Speaker 1: The Giants took advantage as you did at at a

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Speaker 1: depleted team, a banged up team both mentally and physically.

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Speaker 1: John This was an OW and three Redskins team. They

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Speaker 1: had issues across the board. They have not stopped teams

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Speaker 1: They came off a five turnover game with their quarterback

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Speaker 1: Williams who's still holding out. No Terry McLaurin, their number

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Speaker 1: When that type of an opportunity you forgot Darius Guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yes, well, also their top running back. That's true.

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Speaker 1: fair you could add him to the list. They presented

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Speaker 1: a golden opportunity for the Giants. To me, this was

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Speaker 1: almost like a get right type of game, and how

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Speaker 1: many times have we talked about that the Giants are

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Speaker 1: usually opponent for somebody else to get right. This was

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Speaker 1: not in a very good shape. And to the Giants credit,

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Speaker 1: they took advantage. And you know what, that's what you

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Speaker 1: have to do in today's NFL, John, The good team

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Speaker 1: not one percent. That's what the Giants did. They capitalized

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Speaker 1: and that's why they're at five hundred right now, and

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Speaker 1: the defense created turnovers. Really for the first time this year,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen much of that. Three interceptions and rather

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Speaker 1: four interceptions, three by Haskins, won by Keenum Genorris Jenkins

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Speaker 1: wasn't it The cover Mike Evans one one win will

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Speaker 1: But given the coverage is better, the Pastors had more

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Speaker 1: You eventually gotta win one on one. You NFL, you

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Speaker 1: can't win by blitzing. You gotta win one on one

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Speaker 1: wide receivers. It's the same thing John, you gotta beat

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Speaker 1: to show you when the complimentary pieces are working together,

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Speaker 1: it's Daniel Jones mania. I get it, and look, guys,

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Speaker 1: lot of help in this game. The Giants ran them

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Speaker 1: more more than they threw. A thirty seven rushes comp

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Speaker 1: that's the product of the score too. They had two

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Speaker 1: You know they looked a hundred sixty four total yards.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Well, if you take away Jones is thirty

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Speaker 1: It was good, but it wasn't spectacular, and Wing Goldman

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Speaker 1: to catch up and undercut the right a little bitcause

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Speaker 1: he didn't put the ball out in front of Shephard enough.

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Speaker 1: And that's just simply a bad pass, which is exactly

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Speaker 1: what Jones said to me in the locker room. Mat

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Speaker 1: to the game. Well, they were fortunate because the Redskins

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Speaker 1: didn't capitalize, as I said, off the top off of

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Speaker 1: the takeaways, great goal line stopped by the way home

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Speaker 1: to a field goal off that off the second interception. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that was huge because you thought, with Haskins coming in,

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Speaker 1: maybe all of a sudden momentum would start to change.

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Speaker 1: And you're right. They held it to the Hopkins short

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Speaker 1: field goal firstst and goal at the one incomplete pass

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Speaker 1: because Peppers knocked it away from Sprinkle. That was great

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Speaker 1: three yard loss yards and then he overthrew I think

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Speaker 1: was left on the end zone and he it was

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Speaker 1: a wide throw. I mean, Vernon Davis actually had a

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Speaker 1: step John. He wasn't wide open, but he was, but

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Speaker 1: he was. If you put it in the right spot,

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Speaker 1: you would have given David perhaps an opportunity to make

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Speaker 1: a play. It just it was completely out of the

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Speaker 1: end zone. So yeah, great stop by the defense to

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Speaker 1: hold them to just three points. And then remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: here was another great benefit for the Giants. Wayne Goldman

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Speaker 1: had the fumble, but when Hillaman fumbled it in the

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Speaker 1: red zone, two or three plays later, Jabrill Peppers gets

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Speaker 1: to pick six. So if you're the Giants, it's a

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Speaker 1: sigh of relief because things could have really turned there.

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Speaker 1: You could have sealed the game right there with the

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Speaker 1: Hillaman touchdown or somebody else after that play, and then

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Speaker 1: Peppers gives you six points right there. In fact, when

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Speaker 1: you think about the offense, you allance Tho's be my

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Speaker 1: last point before we go to your calls. At two

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Speaker 1: oh one four five one three. The first touchdown was

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Speaker 1: the product of an interception and the Giants took over

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Speaker 1: I believe at the Redskins thirty yards off the deflection

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Speaker 1: from Jenkins into correct that was the first That was

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Speaker 1: the interception Jenkins created but was credited for, and they

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Speaker 1: scored a touchdown off of that. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Connolly just f y I was diagnose of the

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Speaker 1: torn a c L s Albi lost of the year. Stinks.

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Speaker 1: He was playing well too. He's a good kid, and

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Speaker 1: it's too bad. He's really good to be playing the

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Speaker 1: rest of the year. And they scored touchdown there and

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Speaker 1: then they have to pick six. So really, if you

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Speaker 1: look at like long drives, the Giants really only produced

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Speaker 1: ten points offensively in terms of sustained drives down the

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Speaker 1: field that weren't helped by the defense. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 1: scored fourteen points off of four of the takeaways, So

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Speaker 1: I mean that again, was a huge difference maker. This

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Speaker 1: was not a game, and this is not to take

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Speaker 1: anything away from Daniel Jones, but this was nothing like

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Speaker 1: the Tampa game where to create drives at the end

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Speaker 1: of the game. It was a completely different feel because

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Speaker 1: of the Redskins inability to put drives together, make the

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Speaker 1: necessary third down conversions, and it put the defense in

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Speaker 1: a comfort position. John and Matt complimented the comfort that

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Speaker 1: the offense had. I really don't know how to feel

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Speaker 1: about that Tampa game right now, because Tampa is a

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Speaker 1: weird team. The first two weeks of the year, their

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Speaker 1: defense is really good. They don't score well against the Giants.

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Speaker 1: They can't stop Daniel Jones, but they put up a

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Speaker 1: thirty burger in almost five yards of offense and then

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Speaker 1: sit against the Rams yesterday they give up like passing,

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Speaker 1: but they get takeaways and score fifty points. So I

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Speaker 1: really don't know how to analyze that Giants Bucks game yet,

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Speaker 1: because frankly, I don't know what the Buccaneers are. I

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Speaker 1: have a pretty good feel with the Redskins are right now,

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Speaker 1: and I know the Bill's defense is awesome, just like

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Speaker 1: we talked about what they did to New England yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, in that New England game, Bob

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Speaker 1: mentioned this in the post game last night, seven of

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Speaker 1: those sixteen New England points was on a punt return

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Speaker 1: for a pump block for a touchdown, so they gave

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Speaker 1: up nine. So their defense was phenomenal, which is why

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Speaker 1: it was no surprise. But Gihant's offense struggling AGA, damn right,

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Speaker 1: it did. You didn't have either your two receivers, and

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Speaker 1: they're a great defense. And look at the Cowboys defense

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Speaker 1: at the Saints last night. They score touchdown four field goals, right,

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Speaker 1: So when you take a look at the games this year,

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Speaker 1: I have a pretty good feel for what each one

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Speaker 1: of those games means the Buck game. That team still

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Speaker 1: confuses me. So I'm not exactly sure how to pinpoint

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Speaker 1: that yet in terms of what it means in terms

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Speaker 1: of the offense and defense to performance and how they

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Speaker 1: did in the quarterback and then the secondary. I'm not

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Speaker 1: quite sure what the bucks are you have for me

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Speaker 1: to have a good feel for what that game needs. Well,

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Speaker 1: except the fact that it was a good win to

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Speaker 1: come back, it just goes to show you it's a

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Speaker 1: week to week league. And I know it's a clich

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Speaker 1: shade line, but I think there's validity behind in case

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Speaker 1: and point. Look at the Browns. They beat up the

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Speaker 1: Ravens yesterday, John and it was a week ago. Everybody

521
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Speaker 1: was saying, chicken little, the sky is falling, and you

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Speaker 1: know Cleveland's going to end season right here. Some teams

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Speaker 1: they bounced back. Some teams do it consistently. Some teams

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Speaker 1: it's a doctor Jecko Mr. Hyde routine. But you know,

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Speaker 1: once again, I understand that this show is all about

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Speaker 1: the Giants. I think it's important for Giants fans to

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Speaker 1: look at what's happening around the league, and I think

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Speaker 1: the more and more you look around the league, you

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Speaker 1: realize the Giants are not on an island. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams that go through the ebbs

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Speaker 1: and flows of a season, and sometimes it's difficult to

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Speaker 1: get a read on a team until you get four

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Speaker 1: or five games into the year, and sometimes that's not

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Speaker 1: even enough. Yeah, and the more I studied this league

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Speaker 1: and go through it every year. Here, this is my

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Speaker 1: fourteen season with the Giants. The opponent matters. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the opponent just matters. It matters so much in terms

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Speaker 1: of what you're what the game looks like with the

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Speaker 1: teams look like you're gonna look very different based on

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Speaker 1: who your opponent is and what they do and who

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Speaker 1: they are. So just something to keep in mind as

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Speaker 1: you kind of judge what the Giants do moving forward.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to your calls at two one,

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Speaker 1: and lead off with Doug in Rochester. What's out, Doug, Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: and Las, how are you guys doing We're great, Doug,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Yeah, I'm doing good. Hey. The bottom

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Speaker 1: line and the Giants are two and two. He's a

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Speaker 1: tune to the Cowboys and three one. Restaurants are over four.

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Speaker 1: Giants are type of second place. Now, it's been a

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Speaker 1: while since we've been able to say that at the

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Speaker 1: four games, just two years for three years, two thousands.

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Speaker 1: So what they do know this about the Giants players?

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Speaker 1: Um starting from Downald Jones Um and his press conference. Um,

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Speaker 1: he knows he makes he knows he makes mistakes. It's

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Speaker 1: probably him growing on the second game. One thing he

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Speaker 1: says is he has worked on it. So that's a

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Speaker 1: good thing. He know, he realizes what he's doing wronging

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Speaker 1: he's working on so that's a that's a good thing

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Speaker 1: right there. And the defense looked pretty good. But Greg

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Speaker 1: hilly Um, he was getting he was getting toasted pretty

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Speaker 1: good yesterday. Yeah, you know what, it's funny and and

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Speaker 1: you always do the turning point of the game contest

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Speaker 1: after the game. Lance picks it all the time. If

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Speaker 1: I was picking it last yesterday, I would have been

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Speaker 1: funny and I literally would have picked Doug the first

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Speaker 1: play of the game for the Redskins offense because if

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Speaker 1: Keenom hits Trey Quinn on that deep seam route, case

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Speaker 1: Keenum never gets taken out of the game. They go

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Speaker 1: up seven nothing, you never have the Connely interception to

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Speaker 1: set up the shore field, and this entire game could

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Speaker 1: look completely different. And it just goes to show you

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Speaker 1: how one or two missed opportunities here there can completely

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Speaker 1: change the outlook of a game. Yeah, and then if

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Speaker 1: he would have hit the other one too on top

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Speaker 1: of that, because he missed Quinn twice. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: on the Jenkins interception is first one in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: who was open again, same play, deep deep right up

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Speaker 1: to see him. Yeah he was. He was getting toasted.

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Speaker 1: I want the question in the next four games coming up,

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Speaker 1: because you guys always go by taking forward. Now we've

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Speaker 1: got the next set of four games and the opponents

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Speaker 1: coming up. The Minnesota Vikings um at a hard time

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Speaker 1: score yesterday against the Bears. Well, everybody's had a hard

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Speaker 1: game score against Doug. What Doug? I just said it though,

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Speaker 1: So matchups, matchups matter, your opponents matter. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: the Vikings are terrible offensively. It means that the Bears

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Speaker 1: are just awesome on defense. Green Bay could barely score

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Speaker 1: on Chicago. To really understand, Vikings got really two number

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Speaker 1: one receivers and got all pro till be a totally

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Speaker 1: different game for the Giant. Finger you don't you don't

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Speaker 1: know which Kirk Cousins is gonna show up. True too, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't know which one is going to show up.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants, I said, I'm sharing bet and the

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Speaker 1: play that defense like been doing, um switching up Kurt

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Speaker 1: because this right when shows up, they I have to

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Speaker 1: play really hard. So no, look, Doll, your hundred percent right,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for the call. And look, history doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: because the teams are different every year. But Giant reason

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Speaker 1: against the Vikings is not great. It's not great, and

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Speaker 1: this Vikings defense is gonna be Look, the Bucks had

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Speaker 1: good numbers setting into that game. Now we've seen what

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Speaker 1: happened to the last two. Like I said, I have

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Speaker 1: a feel for exactly what they are yet. And boy,

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Speaker 1: Shaq Barrett, he he's not a mirage by the way

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Speaker 1: he was. He was tearing up the Rams yesterday. They

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Speaker 1: have a good offensive line too, But this Vikings defense

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Speaker 1: will be something a little bit different. That Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: has never seen before in his football life. They're a

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Speaker 1: different group. Mike Zimmer is a great defensive minded coach.

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot of personnel up front. They've got

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Speaker 1: a good secondary, Harrison Smith's of Pro Bowl safety. They

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Speaker 1: did a good job when Oldell Beckham was here, and

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00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: he would go up against that Viking secont there. I

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Speaker 1: remember that game in Minnesota a few years ago. I

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Speaker 1: mean it was a real battle, royal, grinded out game

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Speaker 1: for Odell. They got very physical with him. If you

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Speaker 1: remember that was that incident on the sideline. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a different test, right the Xavier Rhodes. Yet,

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Speaker 1: don't read so much into oh, well, the Vikings couldn't

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Speaker 1: move the football against the Chicago Bears. That's the Bears defense.

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Speaker 1: So the Vikings though, have run the ball very effectively

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Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook. As you hinted at, John and Adam

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Speaker 1: Feeling had some very strong words after the game yesterday

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Speaker 1: about the need to open up the passing game. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not want to read into postgame press conferences, but

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Speaker 1: something tells me John, this is like go back to

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Speaker 1: the drawing board type of week for the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: So that's why it's very important for the Giants to

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Speaker 1: maintain that communication on the back end because I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna try to open things up with Stefon, Diggs

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Speaker 1: and Adam Feeling this coming week and try to get

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Speaker 1: more balanced in an offense that has leaned heavily on

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Speaker 1: that run game, wouldn't you That's exactly what I would

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Speaker 1: look to if I was the offensive corner, if I

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Speaker 1: was Mike Zimmer. Now you have to remember the Vikings

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00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: made a change an offensive coordinator last year. They got

642
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Speaker 1: rid of John d. Fhilippo. He's now with Jacksonville and

643
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: they replaced him with Kevin Stefanski because Mike Zimmer said,

644
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: run the football, stop putting the game in Kirk Cousins hands.

645
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: So what do they do, John? They go to the

646
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: complete opposite end of the spectrum to start this season.

647
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Now it's basically Kirk just hand the ball off, don't throw,

648
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: and now it's created a bit of imbalance. So I

649
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: think they're gonna try to get more balanced attack this week.

650
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: But I'm sure they're gonna be reviewing some of the

651
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: struggles for that Giant secondary see if they could test them. Early.

652
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: Vikings have run the ball ont of their plays this year,

653
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: second to only the forty niners. So they will run

654
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: the ball and run it to death on you, and

655
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: the Giants better stop it because if at some moments

656
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: this year and they haven't done a good job stop

657
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: of them run either. And then laid in the Tampa game,

658
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: took the words right of my mouth. And then you

659
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: had Devin Singletary at the end of the Bill's game.

660
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: Get out to him too. So the Giants have to

661
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: make sure they're sure from because the Vikings will pound

662
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: it and pound it and pounded again. Maurice and Montclair,

663
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: he's up next. What's up, Maurice? How you doing? Pals,

664
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you. Okay, what's going on? Jentlemen?

665
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: What's up Mauries? Hey man? Not much of them. So

666
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: I was at the game necessary and I just want

667
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: to get a few thoughts that I had. Um, I'm

668
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: not I'm not really you know, going crazy. I'm glad

669
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: that we gotta win. Don't get me wrong. I mean

670
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: that was Washington or whatever. But um, it's still always

671
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: things that you could be impressed with and impressed with

672
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: and all these things that you can see the team

673
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: improving on all I would like to see just continue

674
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: to see just that sort of all all hands on

675
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: deck mentality. Uh, Like when I heard you, um, I

676
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: think with John you uh talked about sort of the

677
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: point that we got off of like long sustained drive.

678
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: I definitely get it. But you know, as as long

679
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: as we're put in point on the scoreboard. Oh no, look, Maurice,

680
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: Maurice looks style. Points are nice, but in the end

681
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: they don't matter. You win, you win, you win, that's

682
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: all that camps. You don't get brownie points. Remember this

683
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: last year, people are like, oh, you know, but we

684
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: played them close. We just lost at the end. And

685
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: what would we say, guys, A loss is a loss.

686
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Well it's the same deal. A win is a win.

687
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: You can delve into it and analyze it, but as

688
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: long as you walk on with the winning. This was

689
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: a very convincing one. By the way. You are calm happy, Absolutely,

690
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: that's what. That's what I'm saying. And I you know,

691
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: like the whole thing. You know that I ain't even

692
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: gonna open up that cannon worms, but like I just

693
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: feel like the team overall because it wins, you know,

694
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: and you know, when you when you're losing that. It's

695
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: like a dark cloud though not a team got a

696
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: few wins on there, but it's gonna be a tall

697
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: task coming into MetLife Stadium next week. I think we

698
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: should be able to weather it. You know, I'm not

699
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna be easy. Um, definitely. I think with

700
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: Golden Take coming back, it's just more of an option,

701
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: another option for Daniel Jones, because sometimes I'm gonna be honest,

702
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I feel like he kind of sitted and keeps in

703
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: and homes in on certain guys like he's the wrong player,

704
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, Golden State

705
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: will be a good addition. I mean this upcoming week,

706
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: and I always like to leave you guys with something

707
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: fun to get you guys thinking, all right, I'm gonna

708
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: ask you this, will Evan Ingram lead this team in

709
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: yards and touchdown or just touched down alone? Now, Golden

710
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: State had some time off and even little behind the

711
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: eight ball Sheep had been playing well, but he missed

712
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: the game. So you know, guys, let me think which'll

713
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: you know what I think about that up there? Thank you?

714
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, given Barkley's injury, I think the answer right

715
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: now is yes, Yeah, I would lean towards him leading

716
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 1: in receiving yards. I don't know if he's gonna end

717
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: up leading in touchdowns, but I think he should have

718
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: the edge that should be in the driver's seat for

719
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: receiving yards. He's got to one hundred yard games already.

720
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: Yesterday was a relatively quiet game for him. Uh, nobody

721
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: put up huge numbers. Sterling had seventy six yards. And

722
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean what I was gonna piggyback off of the

723
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: point about Golden Tape coming back and how Daniel Jones

724
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: tends to hone in on one target and he, by

725
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: the way, was in the building today and he's able

726
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: to not practice do everything with the team. This week,

727
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: the Giants get a roster exemptions. They don't have to

728
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: make a roster move until the end of the week. Yeah,

729
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see what they determined they

730
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: have to do because Connley is gonna go on I

731
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: R or so they theoretically don't have to drop anybody

732
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: if they don't want to. Because Golden tates the fifty

733
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: fourth guy Connolly counts against the fifty four. Now it

734
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: becomes the problem though, is that and the only way

735
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: they could do. That is, if Ogletree and Ta Davis

736
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: are both back, becomes a numbers game because you need

737
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: an extra linebacker right now. Yeah, they're hurting at that position. Now.

738
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: They just brought back Nate Stupar and David Mayo has

739
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: taken on a larger role. But you want some additional insurance.

740
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: It would stand to reason either call up somebody from

741
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: the practice squad or signed another linebacker if ogil Tree

742
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: or t Davis are not ready to go now. Pat

743
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Schermer's press conference today, John was asked about the status

744
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: of the two guys. He would not rule out that

745
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: they weren't going to be available closer than they but

746
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily give any specifics. Now correct, Davis is in

747
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: concussion protocol, so every player reacts differently depending on the

748
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: independent testing. And Ogletree had a hamstring injury, remember that

749
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: caused him to abruptly go down on a play that

750
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: didn't count against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Does he come

751
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: back towards the latter part of this week. How much

752
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: does he practice? I think that will be a better

753
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: indication to determine whether or not he's available. But with

754
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: respect to Golden take coming back. I mean, keep in mind,

755
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: I thought Daniel Jones did an ice drop spreading the wealth.

756
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: You look at the breakdown of targets here, four guys

757
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: had at least four targets. Darius Laden and Bennie Fowler

758
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: each had two. And he got the running backs involved

759
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: with Wayne Goldman. And I mean, Hillerman is not necessarily

760
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: a receiving threat, but he did a good job keeping

761
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: Goldman involved throughout the course of the game. I think

762
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: what he met is on some individual plays he'll lock

763
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: his eyes on a receiver and that's maybe allowed them

764
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: to anticipate some of those throws to get the interceptions.

765
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: I think that's where well, if that's what he was

766
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: going with, and I completely understand that. I just didn't

767
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: necessarily agree with maybe that he's not spreading the wealth enough.

768
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: I didn't interpret it that way. I agree with both

769
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: of you. Joe in Pennsylvania, he's up next, what's up? Joe? Yeah,

770
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say he's got you and Lance get

771
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: ready to play lineback. No, no, Joe, not Usdatino was

772
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: gonna do it. It's fine. Yeah, yeah, absolutely for about

773
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: half a play. And I was gonna say he'll last

774
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: about a play and then he'll maybe the end to

775
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: have no, he'll he'll get a penalty for running too

776
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: much in motion. You know, he'd be so excited he

777
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: it'll be a legal formation off. Alright, talking about penalties,

778
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: I'll start start with the rest again. When they reviewed this,

779
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: did that? Does that go to New York or is

780
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: it just them guys reviewing it? What are you talking about? Uh? Well,

781
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I can go back to from the beginning of the

782
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: season with the Cowboys that No, Joe, they decide at

783
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: the stadium whether the play is going to be reviewed.

784
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Once the play is being reviewed, then that goes back

785
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: to New York. Well, how how did they come back

786
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: with calls like you know what I mean with Laddimer?

787
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you definitely can within five yards it, you know,

788
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: and there was another one in the end zone they

789
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: called on him till that was very touchy. How did

790
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: how did you come up with them? I mean, what

791
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: do you want me to say, Joe Be That's what

792
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: I was wondering. How do you look at these reviews

793
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: and come up with him? It's it's mind boggles those plays.

794
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, no, there wasn't challenged to play your

795
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: referring Tom did say today in retrospect, he might wish

796
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: he would have challenged that Laddimer play, But I don't

797
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: know if it would have been overturned anyway, because you know,

798
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: it has to be so obvious that it didn't happen.

799
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Is it the fact that it's within five yards makes

800
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: it obvious? I don't know. That's the line of scrimmage.

801
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: I agree with you, That's what I was getting here.

802
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I agree with the announcers, everybody. Everybody agreed. Okay, going

803
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: on here as what the way you want to go

804
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: in here with next? Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah,

805
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: we did have four turnovers plus our punt returner again

806
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: was quotes the two more and plus like I said,

807
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 1: we better play zone on defense, you know what I mean,

808
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: because another quarterback would have hit them touchdowns and oh

809
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: my god, what what a difference the game could be,

810
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, I mean about execution. That's what it comes

811
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: down to, saying one thing. You know, we have to

812
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: be happy. They're all young guys that are making ease

813
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: and we're winning, and you know they got to get

814
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: go through him experiences and uh, now this game here

815
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: coming up, there's gonna be a Viking rushing with Daniel Jones.

816
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: There are a lot of them. They were very close

817
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: to getting him to you know that that one he

818
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: escaped and ran up the middle was something like Eli

819
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: there before he threw that touchdown there, uh in the

820
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl there. But I just wondering, I

821
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to change anything like that with

822
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: their pass rush coming, you know what I mean, if

823
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: he'd he'd want to get the ball off like Eli

824
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: in three seconds. But I don't think they're going to

825
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: change anything like that. The use, well, a lot of

826
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: that is also the decision making of Daniel Jones. It's

827
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: not as if you know, Pat Shermer doesn't tell the

828
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: quarterback has to be the urgency, appreciate the call to

829
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, get rid of the football. It's a matter

830
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: of some times, you know, Daniel Jones has to realize

831
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: throw the ball away and live to see another down,

832
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: as opposed to hold onto it too long to give

833
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: the pass Russian opportunity to get home. But then if

834
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: you you're also then taking maybe one of his weapons

835
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: of running out of his hands too, because if he's

836
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: not holding it and trying to, you know, find somebody

837
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: down the feet, create the alley. Yeah, and you're never

838
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball then either. So I think there's

839
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: a very fine line there where you know a guy

840
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: like DeShawn Watson, he plays a certain way, right like,

841
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: he makes a ton of big plays and he's an

842
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: excellent quarterback. I love de Shaun Watson. He's a good

843
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: player quarterback my team may day of the week. But

844
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: that dude holds the ball forever. It's one of the

845
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: reasons why he's one of the most sack quarterbacks every year,

846
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: last year specifically, and until this year, where I think

847
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: his numbers are actually down in this respect. Russell Wilson

848
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: is that way too. He would hold the ball, he'd

849
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: run around, he'd try to create time. He'd run around,

850
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: try to create time, but avoid this, try to get

851
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: guys down the field, and then he finally completes on me.

852
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: But he holds the ball forever because his athleticism and

853
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: skill set allows him to do that. So I think

854
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: there's just the there's a balance you have to find

855
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: on certain plays when sposed get rid of quick, rid

856
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: of a quick other plays, if the protection is there,

857
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: you can hold a little bit and your mobility helps you,

858
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: But that's you're gonna have to take the good in

859
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: the bead with that. When you have quarterbacks that have

860
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: run around and they do all this other stuff, you're

861
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: gonna take some sacks. It's just the way it goes

862
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: in the league. It just is. Yeah, We've had this

863
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: conversation multiple times when Eli Manning was the quarterback, and

864
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, we were going around the league. I remember

865
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: we did that show John and we were looking through

866
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: all the sack numbers, and the teams with actually mobile

867
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are higher up on the ranking list in terms

868
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: of sacks allowed, then the Tom Brady's, the Philip Rivers

869
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: and so forth, because those quarterbacks just get rid of

870
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: the football or they throw it away as opposed to

871
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: roaming around to buy the defense time to sack the quarterback.

872
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: So it's somewhat of a catch twenty two. You know,

873
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: you damned if you do, You're damned if you don't.

874
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: If you're Daniel Jones, you like the fact that he's

875
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: got the mobility factor, But then coming with that territory

876
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: comes perhaps the vulnerability to be taken down. It sat

877
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: you got a good pocket presence, No feel your pressure

878
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: when it's coming. I think you did a better job

879
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: with that this week. I think the Giants did a

880
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: pretty good job protecting he you know, wasn't sacked. I

881
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: hit a few times, but it wasn't overwhelming against a

882
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: pretty good front. So all and all, that's kind of

883
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: how it goes well. And we brought this up on

884
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: the post game show yesterday and the Giants radio network.

885
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: Coming into this game, you think about you know, Jonathan Allen,

886
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan, Deron Payne, Matt I and it is you

887
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: never felt as if any of those guys disrupted or

888
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: ruined the game, and that I think is because of

889
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones's mobility and also the offensive line at least

890
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: continuing to battle Lance. The line is better. We talked

891
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: about this all offseason. No one likes to talk about

892
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: the offense only it's good because no one notices them

893
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: when the offense on is bad. That's all we hear

894
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: about when they're good. And I was like, oh, yeah,

895
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: that's what they're supposed to do. It's fine, Well, they're

896
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: doing a nice job. Big We Can Go Live is

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900
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: four from more details. Back to the phones, Scott, New

901
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: Mexico is up next, they Scott today is up? How

902
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: are you uh? I thought your analysis of the game

903
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: was exactly the way I was looking at it, But

904
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: I did have a question, just a clarification point. I

905
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: looked at the stats and the Giants had sixty eight

906
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: total players compared to Washington's forty, and also a time

907
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: of possession was thirty six to four. So generally, when

908
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: I put those two together, it shows a certain dominance

909
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: of controlling the ball, and obviously that tends to lend

910
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: itself to flee victories. But in regard to Daniel Jones,

911
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: you had made a comment that he hadn't thrown the ball,

912
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, more than ten yards I think on a

913
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: couple of plays. But doesn't that really reflect on what

914
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: the defense is willing to give him rather than being

915
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: a negative in other which he's looking at seeing where

916
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: the plays are pent. And I made that point when

917
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: I said it. I said that right, that that lack

918
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: of aggressive this a is a product of you having

919
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: a lead in the score, and it's a product of

920
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: you taking what the defense gives you, which is exactly

921
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do, and that's fine. Okay, So

922
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: let's not really negative in regards to Daniel Jones calling

923
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: the game or no, it was the What's the reason

924
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: I said it the way I did is because people

925
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: are making it out like he played as big of

926
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: a role in this victor as he did versus Tampa

927
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: and he was the reason they won, which I don't

928
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: think is the case this particularly, And I think another

929
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: part of why that stat is extremely important is because Scott.

930
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: If you remember when Eli Manning was the quarterback, there

931
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: was constant critique about him not taking chances down the field,

932
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: and more often than not when some of it was

933
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: what the defense was presenting and him reacting to it.

934
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: Notice when Daniel Jones is maybe not taking chances down

935
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: the field, it's, to your point, a reflection of what

936
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: the defense is giving him. So that has to be

937
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: taken into consideration as opposed to just the quarterback being

938
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: out on an island. That to me is important. Why

939
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: that's relevant as well, Okay, I have two questions. I'll

940
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: take them rapidly and take them both off the air.

941
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: I'm still concerned about the fact that Trey Quinn being

942
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: opened twice with no coverage from the secondary and everyone

943
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: you were at the game, So I was just curious

944
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: what created that play. And then secondarily I watched the

945
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: Minnesota game and uh, Kirk Cousins was sacked six times.

946
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: Chicago didn't have two of their starting personnel the sense

947
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: of linemen and even in the game. Now, pet Turmer

948
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: familiar with Minnesota. Obviously, do the Giants employ the same

949
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: kind of or will they look at the film and

950
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: see I'll try to employ the same methodology or will

951
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: it be completely different because of the Giants personnel. Again,

952
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: I'll take both your answers off the Your guys, good questions,

953
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: very very good questions. Um, I don't know what their

954
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: scheme is gonna be against the Vikings. I haven't watched

955
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: them yet, so I don't have a real good feel

956
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: for exactly what they do. I think you are generally

957
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: going to alter your scheme from team to team. But

958
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: the one thing I would think that will continue is

959
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: I do not believe the Giants will return to being

960
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: a super blitz heavy team against the Vikings. I just

961
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: don't think. Give. I mean, look, you saw the two

962
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: players with the guy got open behind the defense. That's

963
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: when you're playing cover one man to man and the

964
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: guy gets deep, that's not what you're looking for. And

965
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: I think when you bring extra guys, you put your

966
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: corners on more of an island, and that's what the

967
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: Giants will struggle a little bit this year. So I

968
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: don't think you'll see them return to a blitz heavy scheme.

969
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: How they handle man zone and you know, single high

970
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: too high I think is um gonna be depending on

971
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: a lot of what the Vikings are doing. I think

972
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: you really have to be as Land spoke about, with

973
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: their tendency to run the football, you know, mission the morning,

974
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: this game has gotta be stopp Dalvin Cook, and I

975
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: think despite what Adam Field said after the game, I

976
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: still think that's the way the Giants will approach it.

977
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: So I think you'll see a lot more single high.

978
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: How whether the Giants play man out of that or

979
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: disguise or do some other things, I don't know. But

980
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: the one thing I would think would continue is not

981
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: blitzing as much. But other than that, I would have

982
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: to see what the Vikings do before rendering that judgment. Yeah,

983
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't think looking at what Chicago did is a

984
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: great game plan to try to model, because once again,

985
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: the Bears are in a league of their own when

986
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: it comes to their defensive person They got really good

987
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: cover guys on the back end of their defense. Could everything.

988
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: Honest well, but my point is, John, when you know

989
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Scott brought up the fact that the Bears were missing

990
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: some of the personnel. First of all, they still had

991
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, who single handedly can wreck a game. So

992
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: what Eddie Golman didn't play. I don't see him on

993
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: their player participation. Roy Robertson Harris, who's really come alive

994
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: this season. He was very active in that game yesterday.

995
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: Eddie Goldman did play yesterday because he's got recorded there

996
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: he is, I say him. Hicks didn't play a right a.

997
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Keen Hicks was banged up from the Monday night. He didn't. Yeah,

998
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: you guys, honestly, Like I said, I'm just looking at

999
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: the ploy time percentages. I didn't see his name on

1000
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: the list. But Eddie Jackson played, Kamara played Fuller, played

1001
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: well the end, Leonard Floyd played, Chalio Mac played Buster screenplay.

1002
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: Get it They're okay, Danny Trevathan, if you mentioned him

1003
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: did not hit there's another guy. You can't go by

1004
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: what the Bears did, And the Giants gonna say, all right,

1005
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna duplicate that, because I think Chicago's got plenty

1006
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: of individuals that win their man on man battles, in

1007
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: veteran guys on the back end that could cover for

1008
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: strong periods of time. So when you take that into consideration,

1009
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: I think the Giants will review the film, they'll break

1010
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: it down, but they gotta do what fits the strengths

1011
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: of James Petro's personnel much more so than what fits

1012
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: the strengths of Chuck Pagano Chicago defense and those two

1013
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: players of trade Quinn, they were a man on those

1014
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: two players. I just checked my notes, and the second

1015
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: one I don't remember the first one exactly know it

1016
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: was both. The second one I remember. I think Quinn

1017
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: may have given a little double move or whatever, because

1018
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: he started off hesitating and then just blew right past them. Yeah,

1019
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: and one play I think Bethet played uh deep in

1020
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: cut underneath. The other play, I think he was over

1021
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: the wide receiver on the other side of the field.

1022
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: But look, that's something that we've seen the Giants get

1023
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: caught in a little bit this year in terms of

1024
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: having that single high safety and not having help over

1025
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: the top. I don't know if that's scheme or but

1026
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: they freely. I doubt it's but they freelancing. The guy's

1027
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: been the league for fourteen years. I can't imagine I'm

1028
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: doing that, but who knows. I don't know, so I'm

1029
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: not going to comment on it. But bottom line, you're

1030
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: playing that single high safety, you can't let guys get

1031
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: over top on you because that's how you get big play.

1032
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: So the man covering the guy one on one and

1033
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: also the single high deep safety, you just gotta make

1034
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: sure that you're in the right spot. They to prevent

1035
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: those guys running free. Absolutely. I think what's also interesting,

1036
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: just as a side note to monitor what the Giants

1037
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: defense does, is let's see what also happens with this

1038
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: linebacking position John as we move forward, because you know

1039
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: with Kyle Rudolph the middle of the field feeling and

1040
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: digs on cross routes which they like to run. Connolly,

1041
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: as young and as inexperienced as a player he was,

1042
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: he was very active, very instinct and he more than

1043
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: often than not, he was in the right place at

1044
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: the right time to make a stop or get a deflection.

1045
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: So you're losing that now and if Ogul Tree is

1046
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: not ready to go, Yeah, that's something to keep close

1047
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: tabs on here moving forward. I think that's gonna be

1048
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: a big part of the storyline and how they attack

1049
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: the Vikings this week two five, one three, Rich and

1050
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: Florida has been holding the longest day, Rich, Hey, first

1051
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: and foremost, I want to start out just giving the

1052
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: both of you Kudo's John and Lance Um. I've called

1053
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: in Uh it was a few years back since the

1054
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: last time I called, But listen to you guys regularly.

1055
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: Thank you, you gotta do a great job. Appreciate and

1056
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: yeah we got we got a pretty large contingent of

1057
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: Giants fans down here obviously, and you know from the

1058
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: Bucks game, Oh my god, Rich Rich, you guys did

1059
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: such a good job coming out to that game. And

1060
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: this is what I always tell people when the way

1061
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: we're angled for the game winning field goal, right, we're

1062
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: kind of straight on with the field, so we can't

1063
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: tell if the thing goes in by just looking because

1064
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: the angle, you can't really tell all the ball is,

1065
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: so depending on what's stating, you're in. You wait for

1066
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: the crowd reaction, and generally if the home crowd goes nuts,

1067
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: you know I went in. If it the Cohen crowd

1068
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything, you know, the guy missed it. The

1069
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: prom was the guy misses the kick. There's so many

1070
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: giant fans you can't tell. Because the giant fans are

1071
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: so loud, you have no idea if the field goal

1072
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: went in. You guys down there did an excellent job

1073
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: going to that game and be allowed. Man, you really did.

1074
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: Were you there? That's awesome. I I wish I could

1075
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: say I was. The irony is that I was actually

1076
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: up in Queen's last weekend. They go down there and

1077
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: you come up here exactly. I got to listen to

1078
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: the last two minutes of the game from a parking

1079
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: lot in Queen with a budget with a buddy of

1080
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: mine who happens to be a Bucks fans. Wow, that

1081
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: sounds like fun. Yeah it was. It was odd, but yeah, guys,

1082
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: that's one he's like I said, I want to give

1083
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: you guys kudos. Um. And also it's kind of funny.

1084
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: One of my good friends that I watched the games

1085
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: with pretty regularly. We we always we laugh about when

1086
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: we see other broadcasts. When we see other things from

1087
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: other teams, how it's almost like watching kind of like

1088
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 1: the the high school version where you would see kids

1089
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: reporting on TV about their local stuff in comparison of

1090
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: the job that you guys do. So really really, I'm

1091
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: not trying to toot your horn, but you guys just

1092
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: you do a great job. We thank you for tuning in.

1093
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: We'll take it. Thank you well, John, actually take it yes,

1094
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: onto Uh as far, it's just overall with the Giants

1095
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: in general. UM, I just wanted to share, you know,

1096
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: it's awesome to feel excited again. Uh. I'm the hugest

1097
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: Eli Manning supporter of Warm Warm Eli color Rush Jersey

1098
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: yesterday while watching the game, but you can tell things

1099
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: are different. And I'm not saying it's solely because of

1100
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: the change, but I'm just saying in general, it feels

1101
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: good to wake up after two wins in a row.

1102
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Feels great. Um, So that's awesome. UM. I wanted to

1103
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: ask you guys a question though it's kind of funny

1104
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: and and it's sort of it's nuanced, UM and John,

1105
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: you're probably able to answer this one the best. And

1106
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Pat Hanlon or yourself or anybody. And

1107
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: it's not a nitpick, but it's just uh, maybe it is.

1108
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: Has anybody spoken to Daniel Jones about the ums and uhs? Rich? No,

1109
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: I can tell you they probably haven't. And I and look, Rich,

1110
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Daniel is such a pleasure to deal with. He's so

1111
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: down to earth. And if he listened to the postgame

1112
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: show after the game, just like with Eli Manning, and

1113
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: I can ask him about bad plays and will give

1114
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: you a good straight answer. He doesn't get mad when

1115
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: when he asked those plays and that kid can um

1116
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: and haun. However many times he wants if he's gonna

1117
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: be as polite and as good of a kid and

1118
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: answer the questions the way he does, he can do

1119
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: it anyway he wants. It's all good. If I had

1120
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: a nickel for every time I vote rich and thanks

1121
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 1: for tuning. If I had a nickel, and you probably

1122
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 1: could have a few more nickels of how many out

1123
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: of an e Line Manning sound bite? Guys, I kid

1124
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: you not like you could have like a twenty eight

1125
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: second Elie Manning sound bite. And I have to edit

1126
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: these for the opening the pregame show. So does Lance

1127
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: both of us kind of team up and do it

1128
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: depending on what we're working on. And you could take

1129
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: a twenty eight second Eli Manning sound bite and without

1130
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: taking out any actual content, and you're just taking out

1131
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: the pauses and the ms and I don't know, you know,

1132
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: just like little verbal ticksie as you can almost get

1133
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: it down to like fifteen seconds, Like you can almost

1134
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: get rid of like of it just by cutting some

1135
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: of those out. And guys, look, they speak clearly, they

1136
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: speak slowly, they enunciate, and they give great information. There's

1137
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: a couple of verbal ticks in there with us and

1138
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: ums and you know, stuff like that. Whatever, it's all good.

1139
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: Do your thing, guys, part of doing business. Yeah, well

1140
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: I have that than somebody that talked a million miles

1141
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: an hour and doesn't give a good answers. Well, it's

1142
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: funny that Rich called up and asked that question, because

1143
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: when Daniel Jones started to have his first few press conferences,

1144
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, all right, well, you know, we just went

1145
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: through fifteen years with my madding and I'm saying myself, no, dude,

1146
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: like verbally, the way they talk the same things, it's amazing.

1147
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: It's actually I took a classic college about speech, and

1148
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: they have a term for that. It's called vocal garbage.

1149
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: That's actually what they call it. No, I'm serious. You

1150
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: never know what you learned on Big Blue Capel. By

1151
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, it's called vocal garbage, meaning it's it's

1152
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: unnecessary language that you're throwing in or unnecessary pauses or

1153
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. So there you go. Daniel Jones

1154
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: and Eli Manning. He's certainly a mirror image of one

1155
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: of the these guys. These guys are football players, are

1156
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: not public speakers. They don't have to be, but they

1157
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: know how to play the game good with respect to

1158
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: public speaking, because they could say a lot and not

1159
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: give you much of anything. That's a talent. Daniel Jones

1160
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: has has given us a decent amount of in the

1161
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: postgame interviews after the games. I thought, though, I think

1162
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: he's been okay, so far, so good, small sample size,

1163
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: just like you're just give me to breakdown and analyze

1164
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: and have a big takeaway, but I don't have much

1165
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: to analyze at this point. Come on, I love how

1166
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: Rich picked up on that. By the way, it's really

1167
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: funny because there's people that actually edit the audio. He's right,

1168
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: guys could not care less. They're go awesome. We love

1169
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: the guys. Four or five one three. Let's go to

1170
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: John Dan and Alabama. He's up next day, John, Hey,

1171
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: we're doing great. Hey listen quick. I just um, you

1172
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: guys kind of tromped me on my lineback and question

1173
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: that's what we're going through Connelly and people being hurt

1174
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So like your take on how

1175
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: they're going to try to address that this week for

1176
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: the Vikings. And then, um, one thing I think with

1177
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: the last caller, because I'm a big ELI fan too

1178
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 1: and actually done in Alabama. We got a huge continue

1179
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: to Giant fans. We all make the trek over to

1180
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: Atlanta for the big game. But one thing that I

1181
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: think is going a little bit quiet with regards to

1182
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: Eli as well as what's going on with the Giants

1183
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: is there's no drama. I mean, this team is really wronging.

1184
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the last couple of years, all

1185
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 1: the drama we had, Eli, Apple O, b J. All

1186
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: that stuff is gone out of this team. So why

1187
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: did you guys comments on that? Yes and then the

1188
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: least yes yes times no yes times of thousand, no argument.

1189
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: It's all about football. And that's what it should be.

1190
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: And that's really good. And I think that has a

1191
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: lot to do with some of the moves that did

1192
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: given me the last coup for years. I'll leave it

1193
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: at that. Yeah, good, good, good selection there. And then

1194
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: the other thing. The last thing is with the turnover differential.

1195
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: How are we doing with that compared to the rest

1196
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: of the league. You know what it's not now? Yeah,

1197
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: it isn't great. Um, I can look it up for

1198
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: you right now. Actually, um, coming into the game, and

1199
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: we appreciate the call. John, thanks a lot well. Coming in.

1200
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: They were thirty first, they were minus five, and they

1201
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: stayed at minus five because they were even with even

1202
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: where they are and I don't have an opportunity to

1203
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: update my charts, but I know for a fact there's

1204
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: still minus five. I can bring it up right here

1205
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: on standby. I would say, I don't think they made

1206
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: that much of a move because I mean, clearly there

1207
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: were a number of teams that had issues with takeaways

1208
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: that Lions Chiefs game. By the way, they're they're tied

1209
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: for thirty one. They are minus five along with Atlanta

1210
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: and Denver. No shock. The Miami Dolphins are minus seven.

1211
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: The Bengals are minus four and they played tonight, so

1212
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: they theoretically could slide past. The Bengals are also in three.

1213
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: So if you look at the teams at your trend,

1214
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: if you look at the teams at the bottom of

1215
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: that list, it's not great in terms of records, and

1216
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: Washington's in the mix there Cincinnati Carolina turnover differential synonymous

1217
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: with record. Unfortunately, it's something that it's something that it's

1218
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: hard to you know, you can't. It's hard to scheme

1219
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. A lot of it's as much

1220
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: as bounce of the ball on luck. Then like for example,

1221
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: like the John's had four interceptions right two A look,

1222
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, Jenkis makes a nice place knocking down the slant.

1223
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: But what's the difference between him knocking the ball down

1224
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: to hit in the ground or him knocking it up

1225
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: and they're going right to Ryan Connolly. It's just the

1226
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: way it goes. I mean again, it's not a criticism,

1227
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: not saying that doesn't count. But from year to year,

1228
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 1: sometimes you get bounces, sometimes you don't. Sometimes the sixty

1229
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: yard field all against he goes in. Sometimes the thirty

1230
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: four yard field goal doesn't, And it doesn't make any sense. No,

1231
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: but that's football. That's why it's such a crazy game.

1232
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Oh you're one present on target there. I agree with you, John,

1233
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: because I think that it's a flukey statistic. I've said

1234
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: that multiple times. It doesn't mean except for the Patriots,

1235
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: they always seem to be plus because himself as you

1236
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: Although that's the wrong team to bring up in this conversation,

1237
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: but I do think there is a philosophy connected to

1238
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: some defenses that they're aggressive enough that they do a

1239
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: good job creating for example, cargo the Bears. The Bears

1240
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: are very good at creating turnovers because I think it's

1241
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: built in and it's an identity within their defense. And

1242
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: certain schemes like you get more takeaways in zone than

1243
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: you do a man for example, exactly right, Greg Williams

1244
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: with Cleveland last year, his team was extremely opportunistic. They

1245
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: were up there and take they blitz a lot, so

1246
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: they made to force the quarterback into mistakes. So those

1247
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: things play a role. But there's also a number of

1248
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: factors where it's right place, right time, ball bounces your way,

1249
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, and just because you were this good

1250
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: and turnover differential one year doesn't mean anything. I remember

1251
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: there was one year where I think the Cowboys went

1252
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: from literally bottom to top. So that just goes to

1253
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: show you with the same defensive coordinator and and that's important.

1254
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: Note it's not as if they revamped everything. They brought

1255
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: a new personnel, had a new coach, and then it flipped.

1256
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: It was the same, exactly final call the show. We

1257
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: go back down to Florida and say, what's up to

1258
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: Julie and Julian? How are you, hey, John? How are

1259
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: you guys? Plants? How are you? I'm just gonna piggyback

1260
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: off my uh Floritians over there that was just talking.

1261
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: Um uh. I cannot believe that someone noticed us because

1262
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I was listening to this guy and I was like,

1263
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: am I the only one that's noticing how much this

1264
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: guy's thing? Uh? And I actually counted it. I started

1265
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: counting my fingers and he reminds I know that Eli says,

1266
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: oh what, I can't believe no one mentioned how he

1267
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: says hey in every pause, like Eli always says that.

1268
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes ye he does, he goes well, he goes hey,

1269
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: you know what it is? Speech analysis on. So three

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Speaker 1: or three hours and forty five minutes aways Tampa me

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Speaker 1: and my buddy looked at each other and said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, man, we gotta go to this game. It's

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be eight hours on the road, but it's

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Speaker 1: worth it. It's DJ's first started. It could either we

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00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: could either look back and tell our kids, hey, we

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00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: were there when Daniel Jones was first game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this guy is awesome now, or we can look back

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Speaker 1: and tell our kids and say, hey, remember that guy

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones that played for one year. Yeah, well we

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Speaker 1: went to this first one. You guys are one field

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00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: goal away from having a long four hour drive home

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00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: from that game. I tell you what, man, we haven't

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00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: felt that exciting. I'm totally picking by backing off my

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00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: Floridian and guy over there. Um I we have not

1285
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: felt like this about Giants wins and and what since

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00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. You know, and that game in Tampa

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00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: literally felt like a Giants game. There were so many

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00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: fans like I couldn't believe it. Um. The last game

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Speaker 1: that me and my buddy went to was a two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen Dallas home game, Week fifteen. That was

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Speaker 1: from you guys, remember that one? Right? Does does? Briant

1292
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: got shut down by the Norris. I mean, what, that

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00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: was an amazing experience, but this Tampa Bay one felt different.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just as Giants fans down here in Florida

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Speaker 1: man like, it was awesome that that that drive back home,

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Speaker 1: and even yesterday's when felt great too. And uh, I

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Speaker 1: guess here I'll go with the question, Um, so did

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00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: Iscaneers defense that legitimate? Now that we've seen them against

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00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: the Rams? Does that make us feel good about her all? Now, Julian,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I said earlier. I don't know what

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00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: to think about the Buccaneers. The first two games, they

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00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: couldn't score, but they had a really good defense. In

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00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: the last two games, they can't stop anybody. So I'm

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00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: not sure what they are. To be honest with you,

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00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, they gave up one touchdown in

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00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: the first two games, and then all of a sudden,

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00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: now everybody's lighting up the scoreboard against them in the

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00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: second to I think Shaq Barrett's legit. I think he's

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00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: done it against pretty much various offensive lines, so I

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00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: don't think that's flukey. Vernon Hargraves is getting used to

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00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: the new scheme that Todd Bowles has brought back which

1312
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: suits his strengths because he's a press coverage type of guy,

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: which he was early in his career. Then they got

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Speaker 1: away from that. And I think that Vida Veyan and

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00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: Dominican Sue are tremendous forces inside. And I mean they

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00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: were reaking having against the Rams yesterday even though the

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00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: Rams had success on the offensive side, and dominant Sue

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00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: I believe, returned of football loose one for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of solid playmakers Julian

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Speaker 1: on the Bucks team. I just think that some of

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01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: their secondary players are prone to giving up some big

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: plays and even the Giants proved that. And it really

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Speaker 1: depends on what type of a challenge you present in

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Speaker 1: your receiving corps. Remember when they shut down Carolina, no

1325
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: disrespect to Carolina, they took Christian McCaffrey away from Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Cam was banged up, Okay, he was playing through the

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Speaker 1: foot injury, which he admitted. And you know you have

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Speaker 1: d J. Moore and you have Curtis Samuel. Young guys

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Speaker 1: that need to get out in space once they get

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Speaker 1: the football, not necessarily a huge vertical threat. So you

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: also need to take the consideration some of the personnel groupings.

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Speaker 1: I think that they went up against in those first

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Speaker 1: two weeks. I think the giants in the Rams have

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Speaker 1: posed a little bit of a bigger challenge because of

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Speaker 1: some of the vertical threats and big playmakers they have. Awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense, and uh, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious if maybe we really are ready for the

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01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: Vikings defense, you know, I mean, are really looking that good?

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Speaker 1: And I mean I would imagine Golden Tastes coming back,

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Speaker 1: then Xavier Roads is going to take him on the

1341
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: outside unless they put Sheep on the outside. But it

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Speaker 1: just leaves Daniel Jones a lot more weapons to throw too.

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Speaker 1: If if Golden Taptees getting covered by Roads, Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: really happy that. I'm really curious to see how gold

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Speaker 1: Tape performs. Uh well, but hey, there you go, guys.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the goal. I mean, I think even if

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Speaker 1: you factor in Xavier Roads and who he covers, Harrison Smith,

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Speaker 1: you know how they utilize him. Who they choose to

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Speaker 1: put on Evan Ingram, I think is a big part

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Speaker 1: of their game plan to the Vikings have more than

1351
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: just one weapon out there that they could utilize in

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Speaker 1: the secondary end. They have a number of guys that

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Speaker 1: can get after the quarterback. And don't just look at

1354
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: the Bears game. But keep in mind Mitchell Trubisky was

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Speaker 1: hurt in the game yesterday. I mean he suffered a

1356
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Speaker 1: left shoulder injury and that was because the Vikings got

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: to him. So, you know, don't dismiss the Vikings simply

1358
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: because they haven't necessarily been putting a bunch of points

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Speaker 1: up consistently each in every game. Look, fans should be excited, oaks.

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Speaker 1: You know, heading into this last couple of drafts, you

1361
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Speaker 1: know we were talking about when they draft the sake

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Speaker 1: Kwon Barglership they draft a quarterback or not. You guys

1363
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: know where we stood on that. I love Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: and now Jones is past year. The time was gonna

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Speaker 1: come to make the change. Just a matter of when

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Speaker 1: you know, ely Man, who wasnt gonna play forever. It

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01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,479
Speaker 1: was just kind of the way it wasn't the team

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01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: decided this was the time to make the change. It's

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Speaker 1: looked really good so far, and A Lance and I

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Speaker 1: were surprised that happening after only two games based on

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Speaker 1: what was said in the off season, But so far,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is stepped up and done a real nice

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Speaker 1: job in his first two games. So looking up, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's encouraging that he's getting all of these reps and

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01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: exposure to all of these defenses. I think this is

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Speaker 1: only gonna bode well for him in the long run.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think what he's shown in the

1378
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: first two games, he's got a pretty high floor. I

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01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: just don't think we know what the ceiling is. I

1380
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: think that's kind of where we are. Yeah, it's a

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01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: matter of you want to see consistency out of any

1382
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: young quarterback, but you understand that they have to go

1383
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: through the growing pains. So you look at what he

1384
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: did against Tampa Bay. Okay, there were two turnovers. Now

1385
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: there's two turnovers. Again, you want to see that be

1386
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: cleaned up. But once again, the way he deals with

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01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: adversity I think is extremely impressive. John. He bounces back.

1388
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: He he doesn't get rattled by one bad play here

1389
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: or there. That's certainly a big positive. And the mobility

1390
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: factor that he's brought to the table, you know, gives

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01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: the Giants the ability to extend plays and continue drive.

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01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: So there's certainly a lot to build upon moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Even though it's been just two starts. Lands good stuff.

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