1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Give this. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio and we are off 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: and running on a Wednesday morning. It is Two Pros 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air. You can find 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: us as always on the iHeartRadio app. You can find 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. And 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: if you're listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: We are going to be taking live here all the 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: And we got a question right out of the gate 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: for you. 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I think it's very inspiring. 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: You know, some dude wipe. 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: It's a good reminder, though, a good reminder that your 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: pants should be down when you're cleaning yourself. 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: Yet, you know, okay, and you should be sitting down 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 4: most likely. 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, Flandino was not expecting I don't 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: think he was expecting that yesterday that we questionnaire. But 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: you know what it is, you know, seasons wrapping up. 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: You know, we're looking for all sorts of stuff, all 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: kinds of material. Hey, this is this is a fun one. Okay, 37 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: how about this? Bill Belichick did not receive enough votes 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: to become a first ballot Hall of Famer. He fell 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 3: short of the forty out of fifty needed for induction, 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: sources told ESPN. Belichick declined to comment, but reportedly was 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: puzzled and disappointed, but he did reportedly speak to an 42 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: associate and say, quote six super Bowls isn't enough? What 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: does the guy have to do? There are multiple sources 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: who told ESPN that Spygate into Flategate, the twin cheating 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: scandals during the Patriots championship run, came up in deliberations. 46 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: A voter who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: Bill Pollion, who was an ardent supporter of Robert Kraft, 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: former GM of the Bills and the Colts, he believed 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: according to he told some voters that he believed Belichick 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: should quote wait a year before induction. His penance for Spygate, 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 3: the two thousand and seven cheating scandal that cost the 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: team a first round draft pick, now should be noted. 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: Bill Pollion was reached out to by a couple of 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: different reporters. He told one he couldn't recall clearly whether 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: or not he voted for Belichick to get in or not, 56 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: but was pretty certain he did, and then told another 57 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: one that he was certain that he did so. This 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: whole thing is a clown show. 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: Is this the same Bill Polly that a first round 60 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: great on Tom Brady? 61 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: That's correct? 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: Is this the same Bill poyn that said Lamar Jackson 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: should be a receiver running back, same guy, same Bill Polly, 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: just make it sure. 65 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: I think he also voted Shador into the Pro Bowl 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: or thought he did. Yeah, he couldn't remember. I don't 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: know about you guys. 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: When I saw this, I thought to myself, we've gotten 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: to the point where maybe maybe I'm wrong, but we've 70 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: allowed people to have power or hold up you know, 71 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: these sorts of things over a coach or player. And 72 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: we've seen it before, right, I mean, terrall Owens, same thing, 73 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: like he's had to wait or he had to wait. 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: But there's a number of guys that, like, you have 75 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: people who vote on this that I don't know. 76 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: This is one of those times when. 77 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: It makes you question everything in regards to who is 78 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: in control of certain measures of our sport, of the NFL. 79 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, how could you possibly not look at Bill 80 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: Belichick as on the Mount Rushmore of coaches in NFL history, 81 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: despite some of the things that they've even mentioned, and 82 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: then allows someone with a vendetta that's over twenty years old. 83 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean, when's the last time Bill Pullian was a 84 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: part of an organization. 85 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 4: It's been wow. I mean I haven't heard his name 86 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 4: in quite some time, man. 87 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Yet he held on to this vendetta for over two decades. 88 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Like the last time I cant think it was like 89 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Like you have to go back 90 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: a long long time before there was actually a direct 91 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: impact on Bill Pullian. 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: Facing Bill Belichick. 93 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: And maybe he's just being an unbiased, you know, arbiter saying, hey, 94 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: make a case against Bill Belichick because everyone thinks they 95 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: should be a first ballot Hall of Famer. But my 96 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: thing is, this is a stain on the entire procedure 97 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. And this is supposed to 98 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: be I mean this, this should have been a shoe in. 99 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: This should have been an easy one. And I'll go 100 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: as far as saying this, if they're gonna hold this 101 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: against Bill Belichick, but have they not? Have they held 102 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: that against other like Patriot players and people who are 103 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: part of that. 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, But what I will say is it's prepostures. 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: The man will arguably go down as the greatest coach 106 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 4: of all time. Now, people may want a debate on 107 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: different different planes, different different categories of reasoning, but Bill 108 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: Belichick had the most dominant outside of maybe the early 109 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers, you know, he had he had the 110 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: most dominant run of time as a head coach's And 111 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: even if it even if it wasn't that, even if 112 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 4: you could debate that someone is a better coach than 113 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, you have to debate that that coach that's 114 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: the greatest of all time is better than Bill Belichick. 115 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: It's a debate. 116 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 4: So if that's a debate, then you tell me, you 117 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: tell me what is again, And I've always said this, 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: like for good or for bad, for deserving or not deserving, 119 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: what are the parameters? What's the criteria for becoming a 120 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer? Please, somebody help me understand it, because 121 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 4: if Bill Belichick is not a first ballot Hall of Famer, 122 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: just like people were up in arms. 123 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: I remember when what. 124 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: Warren Satt was up in arms about Michael Strahan being 125 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: a first batlet Hall of Famer. 126 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: I believe Mike was a first battlet Hall of Fame. 127 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: I believe they were like kind of a few people 128 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: were up in arms about him getting in. If you 129 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: want to debate, guys, Okay, he got the sack record, 130 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: he got a super Bowl. 131 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: But I don't think there's any debating whether. 132 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: You're a Hall of Famer or whether you're a voter 133 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: or whether you're a. 134 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 3: Fan, current player, current coach. 135 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: If Bill Belichick is not a first ballot Hall of Famer, 136 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: what is the first ballot Hall of Famer and stand 137 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 4: that up next to Bill Belichick. 138 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: And see if it's that, if it remains valid. It's 139 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: a joke. It's it's it's just like these people who 140 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: have agendas who get to control. As Brady said, you 141 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: know how you're looked at in your career because they 142 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: can't let go of the fact that they got their 143 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: ass whooped for a couple of decades. So now they're 144 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: going to get their get back, Like this is our 145 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: opportunity to get our get back. It's a joke. Tony Grossi, 146 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: who out of Cleveland, sent the following tweet out yesterday, said, 147 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: as a member of the coach subcommittee that advanced Belichick 148 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 3: as a Hall of Fame finalist, I am appalled at 149 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: the leak and the result of the vote. None of 150 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 3: the fifty voters knew the result. I'll take it a 151 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: step further. How about we release the identity of the 152 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: voters who voted not. 153 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 4: Then take them off and take them off and like, yes, 154 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: you should be able to be fired in and replaced 155 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: as well, and as they're responsible. 156 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: I think that's a great point. And this happens a 157 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: lot in boxing in MMA, when there's a scorecard that's 158 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: just egregious, they will sit them down and be like, 159 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: how did you come to this? Like explain your decisioning 160 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: so that we know that you, like, there's not other 161 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: things going on here. I would love to see I 162 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: doubt it happens. I would love to see the ten 163 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: plus or eleven plus voters who said that guy right 164 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: there who's done something, No coaches even come close to 165 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: that guy right there is not a first bout Hall 166 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: of Famer. I would love to see it come out. 167 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous. 168 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I also think when you hear the stanments from Bill Pollian, 169 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's being serious and he's saying, you know, 170 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent certain whether or not I 171 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: maybe you're not mentally competent. 172 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: May actually do that though, yeah, maybe not like that 173 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: should actually call into question. 174 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: You just voted on this, and for such a prestigious award, 175 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: for someone who's thought of so highly in Bill Pollyan 176 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: to be voting on this, you can't one hundred percent 177 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: remember who you voted for for a moment. That is legacy, 178 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: like like for their legacy. I think the hard thing 179 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: too about this is even for those people who feel like, hey. 180 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 2: You know what he did cheat and you. 181 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: Know you should have you should have to be punished 182 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: for this or he already was, like he already served 183 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: that that. 184 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: Punishment for all of that. 185 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: And it's he's had multiple Hall of Fame careers as 186 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: a as a head coach. I mean, this is over 187 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: a two decade span of dominance in the AFC East 188 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: or in the AFC and going to Super Bowls like 189 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: one six, one eight in total, when two of the 190 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: Giants as an assistant. 191 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: It's just it's. 192 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: Crazy to me that there's certain people and then this 193 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: happens in baseball too. You know there, you know exactly, 194 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: and that's our reaction. It's hard because you have certain 195 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: people who you know, you used Vendetta. I used Vendetta. 196 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: It's almost like, though, this is the power of the pen. 197 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: This is what they hold over the head of every 198 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: player coach, and it bothers me in the sense of 199 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: we have the wrong people then determining who should get in. 200 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: And even more so the fact that like this is 201 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: part of his legacy. 202 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: And so at a moment when you know that portion 203 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: of his life is done, he's already been punished for 204 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: whatever mishaps he did have overcame it anyway, when multiple 205 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: supers after that anyway, and you're still punishing him for 206 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: it because how it impacted you, Like I just I 207 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: think we really need to rethink all of this, all 208 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: of how we go about determining who gets a chance, 209 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: to determine who gets in, it's ridiculous. 210 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: I also the thing that and it's not to take 211 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: it a step into the Morbide direction, but one of 212 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: the things that always bums me out is when people 213 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: are enshrined into a Hall of Fame after they've passed 214 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: and they're not there to get to enjoy that moment, 215 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: especially when there's an opportunity to induct them earlier. They 216 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: haven't played games since then to make their case stronger. 217 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: And and I'm not trying to, you know, speak doom 218 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: and gloom on the whole thing. Belichick's seventy three, Like 219 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: you know, like we don't know, like tomorrow's not guaranteed 220 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: for anybody, and so the idea that you would want 221 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: to just mess with and is you know, if this 222 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: report is true, and Don Van Natta was the guy 223 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: who reported on it, if it's true that you know 224 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: Poleon was influencing people in the room to say, well, 225 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: he should have to wait a year, so wait, what 226 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: like that that's your punishment? Like what if something happens 227 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 3: in a year from now? Like what if something happens 228 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 3: in the next year and he's not there to get 229 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: to experience it or get to enjoy it. And it 230 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: was all because you knew he was a Hall of famer. 231 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: You're admitting he's a Hall of Famer. But no, no, no, no, no, 232 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: we gotta we got to slap his hand. We got 233 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: to punish him a little bit here, make him wait 234 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: another year before we induct him into the Hall of Fame. 235 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 3: It just the this exposes And now I start to 236 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: wonder how many guys aren't in the Hall of Fame 237 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 3: because somebody does have an agenda against him. You mentioned 238 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: the Terrell oh and stuff. That's an easy one, like 239 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: there's there's there's a lot of there's probably a lot 240 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: of players who maybe aren't getting an opportunity to be 241 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: a Hall of Famer because maybe they were short with 242 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: a media member when they were doing a postgame interview 243 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: one time after a tough loss, Like now you have 244 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: to question everything like is this on the up and up? 245 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: Or did your feelings get hurt while you were covering 246 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: a player? And now you're going to have a red 247 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 3: ass about it and then hold it against him for 248 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: the rest of their lives. 249 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: It is a great question. Uh again, I don't think 250 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 4: there's any real way to justify it. But doesn't it 251 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: bring in the question now? I mean will it will 252 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: be brought into the conversation? I mean, and in some 253 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: type of way if you're looking at the silver lining 254 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 4: of this, doesn't this now create pressure to respect Bob Craft? 255 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 4: I mean, well, I'll say, Robert, I mean, my granddaddy's 256 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: a Robert How are you? 257 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: How are you? 258 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: How are you gonna put like Bill Belichick on ice 259 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: for a year before he gets in and not for 260 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: forced Robert Craft away? I mean, honestly, you can make 261 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: the same case for Tom Brady, like like where do 262 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: you draw the line of. 263 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: Who's gonna wait? Because of this? 264 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: And I actually think it probably has more to do 265 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: with how he's handled the media than anything else. Like 266 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: I think because of his short manner and style and dismissiveness. 267 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: I think that's more what this is about than anything else. 268 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: Is people viewed him as a jerk, but he won, 269 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: so he could be however he wanted to be. 270 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: That's what it was, and that's. 271 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: What it is. 272 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: Put up like that, that's what it is. 273 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: That's what this is because otherwise otherwise you gotta apply 274 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: this same logic that Bill Poyan and whatever else didn't 275 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: vote for Bill Belichick to play. 276 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: Every defensive player that was a part of the right, 277 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: every offensive player, everyone who was a part of it, 278 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: it should all be applied equally. Then if that's the 279 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: logic that you're using, because what you're saying Bill Belichick 280 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: was a mass run. 281 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: Everyone was completed, then you think the players of people 282 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: weren't going along with it. He was the whole thing. 283 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: But see, it was mean to me for all these years. 284 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: And now I'm going to get you back, Bill, And 285 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: you know what your get back. Your retribution is forever. 286 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: It's like you could get over. You could see Bill 287 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: Belichick got the super Bowl, see him out of u 288 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: NC game if he's still there, see him around town 289 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: with his chick and and you could meet a different 290 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick. 291 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: And you don't get you do not get to. 292 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: Take this back, like you could be like, oh my god, 293 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, You're like you're really cool now, like oh 294 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: my gosh, like were you always this guy? Like you're 295 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: a really good and then you're gonna walk away from 296 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: Bill and you're going to be like, dang, like I 297 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: was one of the votes that kept him off of 298 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Famer. That's an asterisk. That's an 299 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: and what's said about it is it's an asterisk for 300 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame because you gotta you gotta question 301 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: the credibility. 302 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: You have to. There's no way around questioning the. 303 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: Validity and the credibility of the process after this, there's 304 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: no way. 305 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: I mean, he gave short answers. You know, it's not 306 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: like he's spitting somebody's face or you know, like stormed 307 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: out of a press I don't remember Belichick ever storming 308 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: out of a press conference. He gave short answers. Okay, 309 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: so he wasn't the most cooperative, So that's gonna he was. 310 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: A hey, hold dog like they weren't just short answer 311 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: like they were like you're a dumb ass. 312 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Look, that doesn't take away from the fact 313 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: that guy won three hundred something games in six Super 314 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 3: Bowl I'm you on that. Oh my god, I'm not 315 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: going to beat you on that. But he was mean 316 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: to me. What are we talking about here? Like theho things? 317 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 3: This is like what's the is it Happy Gilmore? Where 318 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: the guys got a hit list of people he wants 319 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: to kill that were mean to him in school and 320 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: then he crosses off at Billy called that guy and 321 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: then he and then he puts lipstick on afterwards? Is 322 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: Bill pullying putting lipstick on afterwards? When Belichick finally gets it, 323 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 3: he's like, Okay, now everything's fair, now that we're we're 324 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: not even playing ground, It's I don't get it. 325 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: Man. 326 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: It goes to show you too how out of touch, 327 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: whether it's Bill poyn or anyone else is with today's 328 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: society that you thought you could get away with this, 329 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: You thought you could like do whatever you did behind 330 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: the scenes to not allow the greatest coach in NFL 331 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: history to be rewarded for his accomplishments. 332 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: And it wasn't going to get out. 333 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, as much as they're trying to make this 334 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: damaging about Bill Belichick. 335 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: That's an interesting Actually, this is more damaging about Bill Pollyan. 336 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 3: It's a comes to sting point. 337 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: It comes off as petty and pathetic. 338 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: And by the way, I know the Pollian family, like 339 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: I played, you know, his son coached me, and it 340 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: is incredibly disappointing to think that a family that I've 341 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: always held in such high regard that he would act. 342 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: Like this and he would do this sort of thing. 343 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: That is that's a that's an interesting point. 344 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I think that you have to have 345 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: the conversation of what you guys just stated, where do 346 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: you go from here? You know you can't everybody should 347 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: not like that's that's it should be the highest honor 348 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 4: to be able to decide who goes into the Hall 349 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: of Fame, the highest honor that you could have, and 350 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: and to take it in and use it like this 351 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 4: in this moment. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a 352 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: terrible look for football. It's a terrible look for the Hall. 353 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 4: And I don't know if there's a hole, I hope 354 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 4: they make it right type of deal. I mean, you 355 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 4: obviously probably have to ride with what it is that 356 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 4: you've you've done and decided, But man, if this would 357 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 4: be one time to be like, hey, pump the brakes, 358 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: we got this one wrong. You know, let's let's let's 359 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: walk this back. Bill Belichick is going into the Hall 360 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: of Fame on the first ballot, because that's correct. 361 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 3: I mean, it makes me respect the College Football Hall 362 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: of Fame more because they didn't hold any grudges against 363 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: LeVar and he's a tyrant off the air like I mean, 364 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: it's just like the things that he does, and he 365 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: still got in because that that took precedent of style. 366 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, guy walking, a guy walking around 367 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: the double lung transplant, and he's got a he's got 368 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: his breathing machine on a cart in a field, and 369 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: LaVar's got him in a dark. 370 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 4: I was already in the Hall of Fame when that happened, though, 371 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: I mean, hey, I'm just saying. 372 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, it felt like you had been there. Yes, 373 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 3: I believe, I don't think so. 374 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: No, maybe not, No, I don't think so. I went 375 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 4: in in twenty two. When did this happen? Have we 376 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 4: been around each other this long? 377 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, it was at least the year before and 378 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: all that twenty twenty one, just when we started doing 379 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 3: the show together. Did I do this in twenty twenty one? 380 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: It looked like you'd done it many times before, But 381 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: I think in that oh my gosh, I think but 382 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 3: you still got. 383 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: In that hope people realized we're completely joking about that, 384 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: they don't screw you. Yeah, all right, it was. Here's 385 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: the thing is, when you set the video, it was 386 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: almost like, I don't know why, like you didn't think 387 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: we believed you or like we were. We were obviously 388 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: we would have your back, but you felt the need 389 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: to set us the video. So because you said the video, 390 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: like we had to dig in, like there was that 391 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: sort of involvement like you and that sort of involved 392 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: in the entire thing. 393 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 3: It's all good. 394 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed picking on me And that's a time, 395 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: you know for those who listen to her. 396 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 3: She don't don't know you guys, you and it's if 397 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: you picked on yourself more, we wouldn't have to do it. 398 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: Like that's forll you A what, I'm never going to 399 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: pick on myself. No, no, that ain't gonna happen. 400 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: It's got those positive affirmations. 401 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 4: That's right, Damn, that's what I will say. I'm not 402 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 4: I wasn't a first ballot Hall of Famer. 403 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: I mean twenty two, it's. 404 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: Ten years after you're done playing college is when the 405 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: window opens. 406 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I wasn't the first ballot. That would have 407 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: been twenty ten. I mean some guys did not have 408 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 4: to wait at all, That's what I will say. And 409 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 4: some of them didn't even have nowhere near the careers 410 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: that some of us say, I'll give up the pros. 411 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with that, But you ain't 412 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: going to talk to me about college at all. 413 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 3: You'd keep my name out your mouth with kyline. Yeah. 414 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 6: Well, and here's what I'll say to you is you 415 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 6: probably hear that process, and it may not be the 416 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 6: same process exactly as the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 417 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 6: but you're privy to some of those conversations. 418 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: And I would say this in the same light as 419 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about the negative conversation for or about Bill Belichick. 420 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: Even at that level in the college Football Hall of Fame, 421 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: there's certain schools and that really sure have an agenda 422 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: and they like want to get their guy in. And 423 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: you're probably saying yourself, like this guy is you know, 424 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: not a guy that you know was playing at like 425 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: the division one is high of a level, like maybe 426 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: not as much of a Hall of Fame, but that's 427 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: not always the initiative or that's not always what it's about. 428 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: So you know that guy gets in even though it 429 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: doesn't fall into a category with who you would say, Hey. 430 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm a Hall of Famer, and I don't know that 431 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: I viewed this guy as as a Hall of famer, 432 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 433 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 4: I will say it looks like they listen to my input. 434 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 4: I will say that, and I'll stay away from that. 435 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 4: But they listen. At least they listen when they ask 436 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 4: questions and ask for feedback on who and why they 437 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: They seem to listen. 438 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: It's like when you're talking about hot sauce, people should listen. 439 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 4: You know you think so, because well, when you talk 440 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: about hot sauce, which is interesting because we're gonna get 441 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 4: the pizza in two seconds as well. 442 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 7: I'm gonna put some Louisiana hot sauce on there because 443 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 7: it's the big game and I'll be in Santa Clara, 444 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 7: and you know what, it's in Santa Clara, and you 445 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 7: know it's three of us going to the game. 446 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 4: Why not take some hot sauce with three simple ingredients peppers, vinegar, 447 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: and salt. I wonder which one, Q Jonas and I am. 448 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: I'll probably be the pepper because you know, well, I'll 449 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 4: leave that be you figure that one out. But I 450 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: dang sure know somebody's salt and it ain't me. Instead 451 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 4: of a touchdown dance some original Louisiana hot sauce, make 452 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: sure you get you some my. 453 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 3: Some two Pros and a Cup of Joe here Fox 454 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: Sports Radio coming up next though, we're going to tell 455 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: you any decision that was finally made in the NFL 456 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: and it probably shouldn't have taken this long. 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So it's official, 490 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills have made their decision. Joe Brady has 491 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: been named head coach of the Bills. He agrees to 492 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: a five year deal for whatever that's worth. He's been 493 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: with the organization since twenty twenty two. He was promoted 494 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator part way through the twenty twenty three season 495 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: when they did they fire Kendors. Here he was he 496 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: demoted something along those lines, but nonetheless, Joe Brady has 497 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: been taking over the offense for a couple of years now, 498 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: and now he is the guy who gets the gig 499 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 3: full time to take over for Sean McDermott after nine 500 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: pretty successful years there in Buffalo. So congratulations, Josh Allen 501 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: got his guy. 502 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: So do you guys like let me let me just 503 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: get this straight. 504 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: So we moved on from a coach and I'll keep 505 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: saying this like he missed the playoffs once in nine years, 506 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: had the third highest active winning percentage of any coach 507 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL fifteenth all time. 508 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: To then hire the guy who is the OC. After 509 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 2: this whole interview process which it feels like there's. 510 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: A number of organizations where like I don't know that 511 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: this was your Plan A, or maybe even your Plan B. 512 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: Like I understand you wanted to pair Josh Allen with 513 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: an offensive mine, but. 514 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. 515 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I just thought this this process would happen maybe 516 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: faster for Joe Brady if he was indeed the guy 517 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: they wanted all along, And maybe maybe they had to. 518 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Play things out satisfy the Rooney rule. But I don't know. 519 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: It feels like maybe they missed on a few guys 520 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: and this is where they settled. 521 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: Because what are you really getting in this case? 522 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: You filed your head coach so you could promote your 523 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: general manager to a higher position and then hire OC Like. 524 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: What change did they really make? 525 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: There was seriousness, like that's what I'm saying, Like like 526 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: what like, so if you're a Bills fan, what makes 527 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: you excited about this? You now get a head coach 528 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: who's got no head coaching experience. And I'm not saying 529 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: Joe Brady's not gonna make a good head coach or 530 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: a great head coach. 531 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: It's just the decision that goes to annoint him. 532 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: Now it feels like one that kind of similar to 533 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys last year, you kind of settled on it, 534 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: like you couldn't find someone else who really maybe you 535 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: wanted or would make you more excited about it. And 536 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I said this earlier this week. Every single hiring not 537 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: everyone's happy about. 538 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: Mike mccarthury. 539 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: The guy's won a Super Bowl, he's got a track record, 540 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: he's got a great history of winning in the NFL. 541 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: And there's probably some Pittsburgh Steels fans who aren't excited. 542 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna make everyone happy. It just feels like, 543 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: initially I don't think this was Plan A, maybe not 544 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: even Plan B of who they were trying to target 545 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: to go after. 546 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys a question. Clearly, Josh Allen 547 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: had influence on the hiring because he's spoken highly of 548 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: Joe Brady. The reports are he's been in all these 549 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: interviews with coaches before. So if he's got clear influence 550 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: on the hiring of the new coach, did he have 551 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 3: clear influence on the firing of the previous It's a. 552 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: Great question because that's what I was thinking. That's that's 553 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: kind of the lane I was sitting there. I was 554 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: thinking on like you didn't hear You didn't hear Josh 555 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 4: Allen come out in any type of major defense against McDermott. 556 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: Like I just I wonder if if you need to 557 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: run it by him on who to hire? Didn't you 558 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: need to run it by him on who to fire? 559 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: Like that? That's the part I wonder because if Josh 560 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: Allen would have stepped up, and if they would have 561 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: gone to Josh Allen before and said, hey, we're thinking 562 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: about making a change and he would have said no, no, no, no, no, 563 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: that's not what we need. We came up short. I 564 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: didn't play my best, et cetera, et cetera. They wouldn't 565 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: have fired Sean McDermott and. 566 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: You wouldn't have elevated your GM. It just sounds like 567 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: a wholesale selling of the blame on one person. I mean, 568 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: because if you think about it again, this was the year. 569 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 4: You can tell me otherwise that this isn't. 570 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: The year. 571 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: For Josh Allen to win a Super Bowl. 572 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 4: The fact that you came up short, You didn't even 573 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: play in the AFC Championship game. 574 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: You didn't even make it to the championship game. 575 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 4: The fact that you came up so short, someone was 576 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 4: to blame somebody. As Chris Carter would say, somebody had 577 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: to be your fall guy. 578 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: Everybody gotta have one. 579 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: Y'all got a crew, okay, and this Bill's crew, the 580 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: Bill's Mafia used McDermott as their fall guy because there's 581 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: no other way to explain. Okay, now it makes a 582 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: little bit more sense. You got the owner sticking up 583 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: for the GM. You got the GM getting elevated to 584 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 4: another position. You got one guy that lost his job, 585 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: the head guy loses his job, and then you promote 586 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: from within, which that was their deal. You said they 587 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: wanted to satisfy the Brady, the Brady rule. 588 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: You wanted to satisfy the uh just make a Brady rule, 589 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: the Rudy rule, right Brady? Only only Irish people get it. 590 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 4: They were intending to elevate Brady the entire time. It's 591 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: just too many Bradys, how many Brady's like there are 592 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: like and the fact that we worked with Q there's 593 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: a lot of Brady's that be hit me. 594 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: So it's really not like blowing up. 595 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: I was the only one I had ever met or 596 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: really knew as far as first name. And then there 597 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: was Tom obviously, who everyone knew well, just huge Joe, 598 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: you know. 599 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but then there's Coyle Brady's like thirty, and then 600 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 4: there's the Brady's like then there's the Brady b u. 601 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Brady bunch. People knew them. 602 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a lot of Brady out but man, 603 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 4: that was their last name. 604 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: Though. 605 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, I know a thousand Levars. I've had so many exactly, 606 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 10: you know, was crazy. There were at least two other 607 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 10: Levars in the league when I was in the league. Kidding, Yeah, 608 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 10: one from I want to say North Carolina State and 609 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 10: it was in North Carolina State or. 610 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: What's the wolf Pack? What's What's what's the North North 611 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: Carolina State? Okay? 612 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 4: And then there was another one from Iowa. I think 613 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 4: one was LeVar Woods and one was LeVar Fisher, I 614 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 4: want to say, anyways. 615 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: Which would be more than more than Brady's. You know 616 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: how many Bradys were in the league. On Pro Football Reference, 617 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: I just typed in LeVar and I've got LeVar Arrington, 618 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: LeVar Edwards, LeVar Glover, LeVar Glover. Yeah, no relation to Danny. 619 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 4: I thought it was Leroy but okay, die Hard baby 620 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: play two games? 621 00:32:51,400 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: Was he lethal weapon? Lethal weapon? That was the other 622 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: one was day Well. 623 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 4: You got them roll for a reason. That was Apredator too. 624 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: That was right, It's stupid. Anyway, back to the original point, Jonas, 625 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 4: I think your spot on did Josh Allen. 626 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: Get Sean McDermott fired. 627 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 4: I think there's collusion going on here, and so what 628 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 4: they're the bills? Gula was going to make the decision? 629 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 4: Your your who's the GM what's his name again? 630 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: Brendon Bean? Bean? 631 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: Bean? 632 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bean was right, Bean was keeping. Let me tell 633 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: you something. This probably stems all the way back to preseason. 634 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 4: It probably goes into training can like, this is our year. 635 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: This is our year. You built it up to be that. 636 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 4: You gotta be explaining during the course of the season 637 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 4: how things are going to own. Bean probably did an 638 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: amazing job, excellent job of showing what this team's trajectory was, 639 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 4: where they were going, what their performance should be when 640 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: they did not deliver. It was already mapped out. It 641 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: was already set up. If it goes this way, great, 642 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 4: we keep going. If it doesn't go this way, here's 643 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 4: plan B. It plan B doesn't work, here's plan See. 644 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 4: They probably had all of this ready to go. 645 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 3: Anyway, do you guys think they fired McDermott before talking 646 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: to Josh Allen. I mean, I find it hard to believe. 647 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: They would make a move and it, well, hold on 648 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: for a second, we're kind of getting out here on this, 649 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: like there is let's go. 650 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: There is an element of let's go, let's go out. 651 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 2: There is an element of we don't have a ton 652 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: of time. Yeah, well there's an element of that, Terry Pegoula. 653 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 2: If he opens the Pandora's. 654 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: Box of you know again, and you can make the 655 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: correlation to if you're gonna let Josh Allen be a 656 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: part of the hiring process, then yeah, I'll be asking 657 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: his opinion of certain people getting fired too. However, I 658 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: think it's a bad president to set as an owner. 659 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: And on top of that, you know, how does that go? 660 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: After the last game he calls Josh or pulls him 661 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: aside and has a private meeting with him, And the 662 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: next thing, you know, mcgermocyt and clipped like, I don't 663 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: know that i'd want that weight as a player too, Like, 664 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: as much as you want to be involved in some 665 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: of the decisions because it ultimately impacts your legacy, I 666 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: also don't know that you want to be involved with that. 667 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 4: So but you know, casual conversations with their players though, 668 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 4: especially the ones that they like. 669 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 2: Probably, But I think if you're. 670 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: A player and you're like, hey man, I don't want 671 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: to be responsible for getting that guy. 672 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 3: Can no owner? 673 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 4: What if you were talking ownership and you're not you're 674 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 4: this type of guy too, They're going to be like, hey, Brady, 675 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 4: how you doing. 676 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: You're gonna be like, hey, how you doing? But everything good? Yeah, 677 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 3: you're good, Yeah, everything's good. How you liking your coach? 678 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 4: Oh, he's a amazing and you're going to give information 679 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: as to why he's an amazing coach, and that's going 680 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: to be a part of y'all's exchange. They might have 681 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 4: been information gathering off off of him. It could have 682 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 4: been as simple as that, how do you like Joe Brady? 683 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 4: Or how do you like your guy? Like, like, are 684 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 4: you enjoying working with him? 685 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 3: This? That, and the other. 686 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 4: They could have asked the same thing about McDermott. There's 687 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 4: a strong possibility that Jodge Allen could have been the 688 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 4: reason why they kept McDermott as well. 689 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: Kid, when when we go back, when we come back, 690 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: can I give you an alternative to what I think 691 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: actually happened. 692 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 4: Come on, let's keep it going. Man fleaks and case 693 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 4: miss is going to have to go into another another round. 694 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: All right, So here's a game day tip. Order pizza 695 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: before the QB shouts the first hunt, and if you're hungry, 696 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 3: the big New Yorker's got those giant foldable slices. And 697 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 3: right now it's just ten bucks, the biggest pizza for 698 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: the biggest games, only at Pizza Hut. All right, it's 699 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: coming up next here. We're gonna do a deeper dive 700 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 3: into this hole. What the f going on in Orchard Park? 701 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: And that's your right here on FSR. 702 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 703 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 8: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 704 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 8: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 705 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 8: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 706 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 3: I don't do it that way is good? Oh there 707 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: we go, Come on, Mark, there we go. Mark, Come on, 708 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: get ahead on this, Mark, Come on, Mark, Mark, get 709 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 3: it drum. 710 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, A lot of humping, isn't it. 711 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: We don't want to see it, baby, than trust me. 712 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: The only reason I'm keeping this song is to see 713 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 2: it at Super Bowl. Oh God. 714 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 3: It is a two pros and a cup of Joe. 715 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with 716 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 3: you here. 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He is the co 732 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 3: host of the Petros and Money Show, which you can 733 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: hear on the Blowtorch AM five seven e LA Sports 734 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 3: Fox college football analysts and can get him on X 735 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: at the old p Petros. 736 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning guys, Hello, good. 737 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 3: Morning you good Hello. How are you Petros? 738 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm doing okay, I'm here. 739 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 3: Have you been to Sultan Pearl yet? 740 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 2: Yes, I've been there. 741 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 3: Well you meet me there for a drink? 742 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 2: Uh, sure I will. 743 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 3: I gotta get your contact. Man, we got we got 744 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 3: to hang out. 745 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 11: Man. 746 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 3: Like, I go. 747 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 4: Downtown and I'm like, I wonder if I'm a bump 748 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 4: into Petros. You know, I've been there. I like their 749 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 4: uh the fish with the risotto, it's really good. 750 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: Oh yes, the Salt and Pearl. 751 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but salt and Pearl, that's my jam. 752 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 11: I go a small restaurant, yeah, very well decorated. Yes, 753 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 11: owned by the Mickey's people. Okay, oh really they like 754 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 11: Owing Whotally and Hermosa. 755 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting, the him and the Hennessy guy. They they 756 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 4: just they they're everywhere. 757 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: Huh. 758 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 11: Paul Hennessey, Yeah, he owns a few restaurants. There's three 759 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 11: of them as well in. 760 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 3: The Rivy areas. 761 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 762 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: We're going to have to do Saint Patty's Day or 763 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 4: something like that. That's around my anniversary. Saint Patrick's Day, Yeah, 764 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: Patty's ye. 765 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 766 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 4: Hey, we were having a long conversation about your school 767 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: this morning. 768 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 11: Which school, Peninsula High. 769 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: We're talking very regionally here are regionally, let's be specific. 770 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: It was not a long conversation. We were talking about 771 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: the Big ten scheduling. 772 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we found I've got a they got a 773 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: week zero in there. 774 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 4: Like a week as in week as in like w 775 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 4: E a K or w E e K. 776 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: I think both of them. 777 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, that's why. 778 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 11: Well, yeah, we can look at the USC schedule, right, 779 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 11: they just put it out last yesterday, so they have 780 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 11: a week zero opening. So I mean, I don't know 781 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 11: who they're gonna play. I mean they they could, they could, 782 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 11: They could really pop the cork off a crime and 783 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 11: play like Central Michigan or something like that. 784 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 2: They might lose that game though. 785 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 11: They open it up against Presno State Fresno State with 786 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 11: Matt Antz, a physical team that could knock. 787 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: The blockoff, but they probably won't. And then nine to 788 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 2: twelve they play. 789 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 11: Now this is deceiving because it's September twelfth, and you 790 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 11: just see the word Louisiana and you think, oh my god, 791 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 11: they're gonna play Lane Kiffen and Sam Levitt and Lsu 792 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 11: But no, that's the Rage in Cajun's Louisiana who just 793 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 11: recently dropped the La Fayette. 794 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 2: So they have that mascot that's a pepper. His name 795 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: is Cayenne. 796 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 11: And then they go on the nineteenth for their opening 797 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 11: game to the billion dollars in debt Rutgers. Then they 798 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 11: play Oregon at home, they'll lose. Then they play Washington 799 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 11: at home, they might lose. Then they go to Penn 800 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 11: State to play the Fighting Matt Campbell's and who knows 801 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 11: what that'll be like, but likely a loss. Then they 802 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 11: will lick their wounds. Then they'll go play the long 803 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 11: faced Luke Fickle in camp Randall. It looks like freaking Beaker. 804 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 11: Then black Beard the Pirate sails West Ohio State on Halloween. 805 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: His beard will be very black that way on Halloween. 806 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 4: Like Pitch Black, Midnight Black, like how black, purple black, 807 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 4: blacker than Black Samson, which is a great movie. 808 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he keeps a lion in. 809 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 11: His bark and then uh, then they have another bye 810 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 11: after black Beard beats him. Then they have to go 811 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 11: to Flavor Country and play Signetti the big cigarette at 812 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 11: Indiana and they'll lose that. Then Mike Loxley and Maryland 813 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 11: come to town. 814 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 2: You probably too, probably when Oh no, I don't know. 815 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, well they lost to Maryland a couple of years ago, 816 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 11: and then on the twenty eighth Thanksgiving weekend they play UCLA. 817 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 11: Now there's no Notre Dame in there, so it doesn't 818 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 11: it's not like a real usc schedule unless you're looking 819 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,479 Speaker 11: at the pandemic. So there it is. It's uh, they're 820 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 11: not going to win. 821 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: We enough game, we we We asked the question because 822 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: it's not an easy schedule from the conference standpoint. Obviously, 823 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: the non conference schedule is easy, and I would suspect 824 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: they'll play like Santase State or someone probably Week zero 825 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: or you know, Hawaii or someone. 826 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 2: But yes, that's who. Well, Hawaii's got a good quarterback. 827 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 3: They don't want to do that. 828 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's a little Asian guy. 829 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: The question came up that if not this year because 830 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: basically my point was like, and there's kind of just 831 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: been a lot of excuses, you know, as far as 832 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: why they can't get back to where they need to, 833 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, with Lincoln and now they've got a college 834 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame coach as their defensive coordinator, Gary Patterson, 835 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: and they have the number one recruiting class and all 836 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: this stuff. It's like, what point then do you get 837 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: to the conference championship game? And what point do you 838 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: do you get to the College Football Playoff as an 839 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: at large bid? Because even though the schedule's tough from 840 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: a conference standpoint, they've got buys before two of their 841 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: bigger games on that schedule. And yes there's a fair 842 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: amount of travel, but you know, Oregon hasn't had that 843 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: issue and they seem to adjusted just fine. 844 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 2: The question just kind of came up. If not this year, 845 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: then then at what point? 846 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 11: Well, I mean, I don't know if after you saw 847 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 11: USC miss I think five tackles on an outlet pass 848 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 11: where the running back had no idea what he was 849 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 11: doing but just ended up in the end zone against TCU. 850 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 11: After US he lost the Alimo Bowl, Lincoln Riley said, 851 00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 11: a window is open now, A window is open. I 852 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 11: don't know where the window was before that. I don't 853 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 11: know if it was closed. I happen to know that 854 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 11: they have plenty of nil money, So I don't know 855 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 11: why the window is open now. 856 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 2: And I don't know what changed. 857 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 11: He also said when they hired Gary Patterson that he's 858 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 11: they're adding, He's adding to the culture we've built. I 859 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 11: would ask, if you miss a bunch of tackles in 860 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 11: overtime to let an outlet pass beat you, what culture 861 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 11: do you have already? What? What culture are you building on? 862 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 11: What is the what is the culture at us HE? 863 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 11: Is it really a winning culture? Is it a culture 864 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 11: of mediocrity? I mean, you look at the schedule and 865 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 11: you wonder, Okay, when's. 866 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 2: He get fired? Right? If they lose to Oregon Ane Washington, 867 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 2: does he. 868 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 11: Make it to Penn State on the on the tenth 869 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 11: or they he gets to Penn State and they fire 870 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 11: him during. 871 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 2: The bye week. 872 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 3: I mean, so this is a fire year. 873 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 2: I think so. I mean I don't know who knows. 874 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 11: I mean, what can you say about the leadership at 875 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 11: USSE and the decision making. They ruined the biggest rivalry, 876 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 11: the best rivalry, the identity of the university's players when 877 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 11: they canceled the Notre Dame rivalry. 878 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 2: So I don't know what the hell they'll do. I mean, they. 879 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 11: Would have fired Lincoln Riley two years ago if they 880 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 11: could have, but that buyout is shrinking. 881 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 2: As the years go on. So who's to say. 882 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 11: But I mean, as Kenny Dillingham says, all you need 883 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 11: to do is get one of these millionaires in town 884 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 11: to stroke a check for twenty million bucks. You know, 885 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 11: why wouldn't they do it. I'll make you famous like 886 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 11: Billy the Kid. It's pretty ridiculous. But we'll see who 887 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 11: they schedule week one. I mean it could be anybody. 888 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 11: You know, they could play Pomona, Pitzer, Petros. 889 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 3: I know that you guys had a chance to sit 890 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 3: down with the great Mike McDaniel yesterday. 891 00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 2: We did. 892 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 11: Yeah, he was dressed. I went to the Pro Football facility. 893 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 11: They called me and they said, you have to come 894 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 11: to the Bolt. And I've been to the Bolt, but 895 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 11: I've never actually been like inside where all the cool 896 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 11: people hang out, you know, like a real NFL facility, 897 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 11: you know, where you guys live your lives. 898 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 2: And I went over there yesterday. 899 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 11: And I didn't try to overdress, you know, like outdress McDaniel, 900 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 11: because that would have been hard. 901 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,760 Speaker 3: His jacket was crazy, huh. 902 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 11: He wore it was like a Louis Vuitton jacket with 903 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 11: a popped collar. And then he had a corner zip 904 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 11: under that with a double pop collar lined up perfectly. 905 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 11: And then he had very tight black or gray jeans 906 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 11: on and silvery shoes of a brand that I could 907 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 11: not recognize, and then gigantic Andy Warhol style glasses. 908 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 4: Go like brown and black like uh like wood almost 909 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 4: type glass. 910 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Stunner shades but glasses. 911 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,240 Speaker 3: Very South beach. But but now like well. 912 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 11: I asked him, I said, you're there's going to be 913 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 11: a lot of shopping, yeah, here in Los Angeles. 914 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 2: And what he said. 915 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 11: Was that he is very familiar with southern California because 916 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 11: him and his wife have vacationed here almost every year, uh, 917 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 11: while he's been in the NFL. 918 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 2: So it's he goes. 919 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 3: Down probably all Rodeo Huh. 920 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 11: Laguna Beach is where he likes to hang out, which is, 921 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 11: you know, you get a lot of out of towners 922 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 11: and weirdo Euros and stuff in those nicer towns in 923 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 11: Orange County and the resort resorts. So I understand. So 924 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 11: he said that, and uh, he gave thoughtful answers. A 925 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 11: really interesting guy. Uh, looks to be a pretty smart 926 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 11: offensive coordinator. I looked up his offenses and they're always 927 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 11: pretty balanced and and very good, and he seems to 928 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 11: know how to scheme things up. And he's definitely I 929 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 11: don't know what you would say, what the word would be, 930 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 11: He's got an eclectic personality. Maybe I'm not sure he 931 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 11: dresses like he's at the club, but he wakes up 932 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 11: every day at like four in the morning. 933 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, because I mean, I wonder, now 934 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 3: does this leave Rob Polinka's jackets in the dust? I mean, 935 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 3: did he just basically show Rob Plinka's ass and say, 936 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 3: step up your game a little bit here? Because it's 937 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 3: very satifact me, you know, I mean. 938 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 11: I'm sure what Rob Polinka opens up in his closet 939 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 11: right now and looks at it and says, I'm not 940 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 11: sure which of these homo erotic outfits are going to 941 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 11: keep me from getting fired by the new Laker ownership. 942 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 3: That's fair. 943 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 11: Speaking of there wasn't one Charger reporter, Brady, I'm sorry 944 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 11: there was one Charger reporter. 945 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: It looked like tried to. 946 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 11: Like out like because I wondered if my radio partner, 947 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 11: you know, was going to try to like dress up 948 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 11: like McDaniel, you know, just or not like him, but 949 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 11: were something like take a fashion risk to make a 950 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 11: conversation starter with the guy, you know, and that was 951 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 11: that was not the case. But there was another Charger 952 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 11: reporter who wore like a tope on tope on tope 953 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 11: on tape outfit a whole lot of tope. Yeah, and 954 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 11: I felt like my mom loved tope more tope than 955 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 11: the pope. 956 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 2: I wonder if she still loves tope for McDaniel. 957 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 958 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, Brady, No, No, you're good. You're good. 959 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: I was actually gonna ask you on that note on 960 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers, I heard one of the Lakers say recently, 961 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: playing in today's league eighty two games is not the 962 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: same as back in the nineties, like today is it's 963 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: harder playing in today's league for eighty two games. 964 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 3: Is that a player who played in the in the 965 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 3: nineties or is that no, it's a current player Rambus 966 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 3: that said that, Yeah, he could say. 967 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 2: I'm I believe it. 968 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: Lebron James talking about that the league now is harder 969 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 1: to play in for eighty two. 970 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 11: Games that it was back in the nineties. Lebron just 971 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 11: talks out of his ass. I mean, I can't believe 972 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 11: the stuff that comes out of this guy's mouth. He's 973 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 11: a great athlete and all of those things and very 974 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 11: polarizing to many. I have been anti Lebron twitter indoctrinated 975 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 11: for years now, and I you know, I've been My 976 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 11: blood is poisoned against him. But I mean, we talk 977 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 11: to James Worthy every week, in fact we will today. 978 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 11: We do it on Wednesdays, and this is a long conversation. 979 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 11: And James Worthy, of course works for the Lakers and 980 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 11: is as a Hall of Famer, and his jersey's up 981 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 11: in the rafters, and he doesn't say bad things about Lebron, 982 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 11: but he talks about how they would have a beer 983 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 11: and a hot dog and fly Eastern Airlines commercial overnight 984 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 11: and get an our rest at a crappy hotel and 985 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 11: you know, take the floor against the Milwaukee Bucks, you know, 986 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 11: and play the crazy you know, Hall of Fame level 987 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,879 Speaker 11: magic Johnson, James Worthy, Byron Scott, Kareem Abdul Jabbar basketball. 988 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 11: And it doesn't I think that the private jets, the coddling, 989 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 11: the saunas, the leg where the leg sleeves, the hyper 990 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 11: barrack chambers and all the stupid things that I mean, 991 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 11: not stupid, but all the things that I just think 992 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 11: it's softened the way everybody sees themselves as an athlete, 993 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 11: and I just I'm so tired of listening to Lebron 994 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 11: talk about how awesome he is and these reporters eating 995 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 11: it up every night. 996 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 2: It's it's hard. Hey, Bob. My question is, well, go ahead, 997 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 2: go home. 998 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: My question is do you guys This is a question 999 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: everyone like, do you remember Jordan talking about himself in 1000 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: the same way? Like? That's what's odd to me, is ever, 1001 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't remember Jordan any of the other guys like 1002 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: that are considered to be the all time great like 1003 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: talking about themselves and having to defend their case for 1004 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: themselves in past years. 1005 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 11: But okay, No, Colby was very difficult to cover and 1006 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 11: then at the end of his career tried to be 1007 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 11: super nice because he was going to go into the 1008 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 11: media world in some shape or. 1009 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 2: Form, and that was different. 1010 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 11: He was just a very tough personality and didn't get 1011 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 11: along with everybody and was kind of a very hard teammate. 1012 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 11: Jordan was similar, I guess, but used to take his 1013 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 11: guys out once a week at least for lunch and 1014 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 11: to golf, and you know, he had that part of 1015 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 11: it figured out, even though he socked Steve Kerr famously, 1016 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 11: But I I, uh yeah, I just I think, and 1017 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 11: it's hard to imagine somebody being more accomplished in the 1018 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 11: sport of basketball. So like basketball players will say, well, 1019 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 11: Ron can say whatever he wants, look at all the 1020 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 11: stuff he's accomplished. But at the same time, yeah, you 1021 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 11: compare him. Well, no other all time great has sat 1022 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,439 Speaker 11: there and told everybody that they're the all time great 1023 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 11: like Lebron has, right, no one, no one's done that. 1024 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 11: No one's had a bunch of weird media proxies running 1025 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 11: around pleading his case, which Lebron has, and then turns 1026 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 11: around and tells you who doesn't care what people say? 1027 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 11: He cares what people say more than anybody cares what 1028 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 11: people say. I mean, that's evidenced by trying to run 1029 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 11: up on pinhead Stephen A. Smith and a baseball game 1030 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 11: for God's basketball game. So I mean that part of it. 1031 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 11: I mean I never saw Kobe or Jordan or I 1032 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 11: mean Jordan had friends like a Madrashad was his friend 1033 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 11: boy who used to say how great he was. But 1034 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 11: it wasn't like it wasn't it didn't feel nefarious. 1035 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 3: Whole inside stuff was great. 1036 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 11: I mean, it was a lot of poll smoking, but 1037 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 11: it wasn't feel like it didn't feel like they were 1038 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 11: trying to change history. 1039 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 2: Like Lebron's people, I mean, Lebron's. 1040 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 11: Agent, this guy who every time he opens his mouth, 1041 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 11: you go, I can't believe this guy's this Rich he 1042 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 11: sounds like a complete idiot. 1043 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 2: Rich Paul. 1044 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 11: They created a podcast that's caused all kinds of problems. 1045 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 11: They created a podcast just because they hate Stephen A. 1046 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 2: Smith. 1047 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 11: They got Max Kellerman and Rich Paul to give alternate 1048 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 11: opinions about Lebron and about the world just because they 1049 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 11: want more Lebron help out in society. So no, I 1050 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 11: do not remember Jordan or Kobe or anybody for that 1051 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 11: matter doing anything like this public relations wise, to change 1052 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 11: basketball history and make everybody think that this guy is 1053 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,280 Speaker 11: the best. And overall, I think the fact that every 1054 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 11: single year around this time, we start squawking about how 1055 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 11: Lebron needs help and Lebron needs Lebron. 1056 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 2: Can't do it all alone, you know. 1057 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 11: I mean this has happened for like ten years, and 1058 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 11: I know I don't remember that with Jordan or Kobe either, 1059 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 11: So yeah, I think that I don't think he's a fraud, 1060 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 11: but I think that he's I think there's been so 1061 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 11: much there that to me, he's not even He's not 1062 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 11: even a top five great NBA player. 1063 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 4: You mentioned that it was Worthy. You know, people don't 1064 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 4: talk about James Worthy but super quick. I know we're 1065 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 4: up on it, But I mean, why isn't he ever 1066 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 4: taught like I would think it's debatable that Lebron James 1067 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 4: is a more accomplished or better Laker than or or 1068 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 4: I won't say pro obviously, but laker then look then 1069 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 4: than James Worthy. 1070 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 2: Oh, Lebron James. 1071 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 11: Well, James Worthy won a won a college championship at 1072 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 11: North Carolina. I'm played with with Michael Jordan there and 1073 00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 11: Gastonia North Carolina. He was an NBA Finals MV and uh, 1074 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 11: I don't know. I don't remember how many championships they won. 1075 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 2: Five he was. 1076 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 3: There for all of them. Yeah, with the Lakes Show. 1077 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 11: And his jerseys up in the rafters, and he's one 1078 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 11: of the top you know, and they did seventy five 1079 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 11: the top seventy five NBA players. He's one of the 1080 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 11: top seventy five NBA players. 1081 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 4: I thought he was more important than him than than 1082 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 4: Magic doing that right. 1083 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, during that run, I thought it was more important. 1084 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 11: He was the recipient of a lot of Magic's assists, 1085 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 11: you know, on the basic. 1086 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 4: See, I felt like they were the recipient of people 1087 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 4: having to worry about James Worthy. 1088 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 3: He was there McHale basically to bird. 1089 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, and it was interesting to hear them talk about 1090 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 11: their dynamic. 1091 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 4: He was waring at dynamic than Kevin McHale. Kevin mchat 1092 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 4: don know man. 1093 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,919 Speaker 11: Kevin McHale had some of the great greatest post most 1094 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 11: of all time. 1095 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 4: In one when has Steve Hartman shoulders him and and 1096 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 4: the Chief, the big Chief, but I love the Chief. 1097 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 3: Robert Parrish. Robert Parrish was. 1098 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 4: More like, you know, like a C. Green or you 1099 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 4: know Rambis, you know, to Kareem Abduen Parish. 1100 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 11: But Parish was up against Kareem right anyway, those were great. Yeah, 1101 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 11: that that was you know, I don't know if the 1102 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 11: NBA is ever going to be able to recreate never 1103 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 11: that kind of stuff. 1104 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 2: Never. 1105 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 11: But the the media blitz about Lebron and and Lebron 1106 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 11: telling everybody how important he is over the years and 1107 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 11: and force feeding us his goat case is uh is 1108 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 11: tiresome at best. 1109 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 3: Well, you're not Petros. We love Avenue. 1110 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 11: You guys want to go through the UCLA schedule see 1111 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 11: if mob Chesney could be the next Kurt Signetti? 1112 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think you can be? I 1113 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: did see some people trying to write that and talk 1114 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: about that. I was like, well, I don't think this 1115 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: happens twice, you know. 1116 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 11: But to say, I mean u c l A is 1117 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 11: to compare UCLA's history to Indiana's football history isn't fair 1118 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 11: because UCLA does have a pretty good football history. I 1119 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 11: mean guys like Troy Aikman and so on. And Mark 1120 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 11: Harmon from NCIS was an option quarterback at UCLA McNown. 1121 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it goes on and on. They 1122 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 2: want to. 1123 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 11: You know, UCLA won a national championship in the fifties 1124 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 11: and the coach Red Saunders died in a hotel in Hollywood. 1125 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 2: With a hooker. 1126 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 11: Really uh huh, like Wally was the head coach at UCLA. 1127 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 3: A way to go out right? 1128 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 2: How they sweep that one under the rug. 1129 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 11: Well, it's an unbelievable article written in Sports Illustrated the 1130 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 11: way they kind of wrote around it, like this was 1131 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 11: not a hotel where you would imagine the head coach 1132 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 11: would be he was shirtless. They said he needed a 1133 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,919 Speaker 11: cold drink because he wasn't breathing well. 1134 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 3: Love a good coach of the hooker story. 1135 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1136 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 11: And then I remember another coach that I used to 1137 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 11: know who ended up on a plane next to a 1138 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 11: lady who was, you know, a woman. 1139 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Of easy virtue, and they were talking. 1140 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 11: They were talking about their their mutual acquaintances because she 1141 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 11: was aware of the football world. 1142 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: This is many, many, many years ago. This coach is dad. 1143 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 2: He coached my dad and uh and the. 1144 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 11: Guy said, do you know Red Sanders And she said yes, 1145 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 11: I fed him to Dad. 1146 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 3: Literally literally, What a game of clue that was. 1147 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 2: I like Bob Chesley the kitchen with the candelabra. 1148 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 3: Petros, let's do it again next week? Always how big 1149 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 3: as calves or damn? There he is, the great Petros 1150 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 3: Papavegus co host of the Petros and Money Show. 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