1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Hello, zich Gang, and welcome to the end of the year. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: During these two weeks surrounding Christmas and the New Year, 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: we take some time off. During the mornings, we'll run 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: some new holiday and end of the year content that 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: you can listen to while we're taking a break. This year, 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: we've got our review of the year of movies, predictions 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: for the coming year Santa University. We look back at 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: some holiday classics with Chris Croft, and so much good 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: stuff dropping in the mornings. In addition to all that 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: stuff in the afternoons where we would usually drop the 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Trends episode, we are rerunning the ten most popular episodes 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: of this year according to you. You voted with your 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: dang years and we listened with ours. Actually, we looked 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: at the data we're spying on you. Honestly, I'm mostly 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: in this podcasting thing for the rich marketing data it 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: provides to me about each and every one of you. 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: At the end of the year, when I look back 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: to see what made the top ten, and this was 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: actually my favorite year to look back at. Our top 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: ten is full of episodes I feel like made it 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: because of a bunch of different reasons. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: There are some. 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Episodes that dropped after huge news events. There are some 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: first episodes that dropped right after some hilarious news events, 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: some great new guests, some classic fan favorite guests, and 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: some new formats we tried out that we're very excited 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: to see that you guys enjoyed. Before we get into it, 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: I just want to thank you guys for once again 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: being such a cool community that's bloomed up around this 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: podcast we've been doing all these years. You guys repeatedly 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: make us proud. You're there for us when we go 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: through some really difficult shit. You show up at shows 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: of our guests, and we always get great reports from 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: our guests about our listeners. You are the rare podcast 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: audience that makes us extremely proud to have you as listeners. 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: So far, don't don't fuck this up, you guys. 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: All right, Without further ado, here is the tenth most 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: popular episode of the year. The episode's called AI Coming 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: for TDZ VPT Spill with Alan Strickland Williams. It dropped 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: on September twelfth of this year, and it was the 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: first full episode that we did after a major news story. 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: Enjoy. 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: Do you ever have that nightmare of like you switch 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: bodies with a professional athlete and so like in the 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: middle of the game and you're like, fuck, I don't know. 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: What to do. 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: I feel like when that happened, I was killing it. Oh, 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: in your dreams, pure fantasy. 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's only when I'm myself that I'm an 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: abject failure in my dream. Isn't that what the point 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: of dreams? So I can not be my failure of 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: a self. 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, or just like anxiety fever dreams the other way 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: to another direction, you could go with your unconscious. 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: I'm always fighting this kid who bullied me on this 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: on hockey team, and my fucking and my arms are 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: just in sand, dude. Yeah, yeah, that's what I have. Yeah, yeah, 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: I always like get in fights. 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: And then I can't, like I'm floating an inch off 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: the ground, so I can't like run away, which is 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: what I would actually do in a fight. 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: And and my like arms are like very like feels 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: like they're underwater. 65 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: I like the fight or flight. My fight is that 66 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: my arms are completely just restrained from physics or something 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: and your flight. But you're like, I can't get my 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: feet on the ground away from this guy. 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet and welcome to season four h five, 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Episode five. 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: Of Daily'sai Guys. 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: There's a production of iHeart Radios, a podcast we dig 73 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: deep to into a Mariage shade consciousness. It's Friday, September twelfth, 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. September twelfth, man, yep, never never remember, 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: never remember. 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: The day after September eleventh, It's National Day of Encouragement. 77 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: It's also a National hug and high five Day, National 78 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: just One Human Family this some all lives matter shit, 79 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: National Report Medicare Fraud Day, okay, thanks Republicans, National Video 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: Games Day okay, and National Chocolate Milkshake Day. 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: Okay. I can get a. 82 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: Perfect summation of just our country where they're like, here, 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: you can have video games and chocolate milk, assholes. 84 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: But report medicare fraud exactly. We're all watching and. 85 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: Also hugging high five somebody and just like let's talk 86 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: about unity and like keeping it together. 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're doing medicare fraud because you're probably immigrant 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: and like, okay, but the how do you have to 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: do that voice? Does that voice like part of your process? 90 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: Kind of I'm going through some stuff. 91 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and. 92 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host, 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: mister Miles Great. 94 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: Miles Great, Hey, the Lord of Lancersham. This done with 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: no gun. You know what I mean? Oh, you know 96 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: what I mean. Also, my darim is so smelly. I 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: guess I shipped my jeans. I messed up my g's jeans. 98 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Makes them good? Ask clean after if I shipped my jees, 99 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: messed up my g's jeans. Justin Connor on the discord. 100 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: No, huh, huh, Justin Connor on the discord, getting in 101 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: there after winning our episode yesterday. 102 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Justin. 103 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: Justin was the one who told us about the shooting 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: in between the first act and the second act, which 105 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: is definitely. 106 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: May have caught a vibe shift in that fuckuck. 107 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: Anyways, great fucking aka suiter producer Justin got the syllables 108 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: right and everything, Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in 109 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 1: our third seat by a very funny comedian and writer 110 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: who you've seen doing stand up in places like your 111 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: TV and Internet. His debut album, ran Through is available 112 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: on streaming platforms and vinyl, which gives it a nice 113 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: little warm sound. His podcast Finding My Audience is available 114 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: wherever you get your favorite podcast. Please welcome back to 115 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: the show, the hilarious Alan Strickland. 116 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 5: Will yall, Oh my gosh, so good to be bad guys, 117 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. 118 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: How y'all have you wait? I know your their albums 119 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: on vinyl. 120 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 5: So on vinyl. Yeah, check it out. You can find 121 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 5: myself Alix Strickland lams dot com. I think it will 122 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 5: cost you a cool twenty five dollars and you get 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 5: to be the coolest person in your building or zip code. Yeah, 124 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 5: with a little bit of vinyl. And if you also 125 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: don't have a record player, maybe you got a big 126 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: cup and you could use it as a big coaster. 127 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, punch bowl coaster. Maybe salad bowl, salad bowl coaster. 128 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 5: You don't have to have a record player. We can 129 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 5: get it, and we can get clever with this stuff. 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: You can be a frisbee right. 131 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 5: Oh hey, you know what I will. I will plug 132 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: the real fast just because you guys have them all 133 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: all the time. Chris crofton Yeah, I had him on 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: the my my last episode of Finding My Audience and 135 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: I had a good talk with about his album and 136 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 5: his documentary. And yeah, so if any listeners, you know, 137 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 5: after you listen to this, Yeah, fuck. 138 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: It, fuck it, just stop this. Let's go check out. 139 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: We can cut this off. Well, where can people find. 140 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 5: You, Alan, Alan Williams dot com. 141 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Well, well, it's great having you on, man. Yeah, everybody, everybody, 142 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: you know what you know what to do. Go listen 143 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: to Crafton right now. In Allen's podcast, How was he? 144 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: He was great? Yeah, as usual. Yeah, It's it's very. 145 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: Difficult to describe Chris Crofton. We I've tried many times. 146 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: It's his experience. 147 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, how do Chris Crafton experience? How do you describe 148 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: a Crisp spring warning? You know, that's right, Yeah, it's 149 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: Chris crafted. 150 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Crafton is definitely the closest analogy I can 151 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: come up with as a Crisp springing for Crofton. I 152 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, there's a free where I heard it. 153 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: But just like the anecdote that comedy albums like took 154 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: the world by storm and like that, at a certain point, 155 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: like in the sixties or seventies, somebody like had the 156 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: idea of, like what if we put stand up comedy 157 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: on records? And it was like this big fad too, 158 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: Just like people would have listening parties. People just like 159 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: come over and sit around and listen to a stand 160 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: up album on their record player. And that's like as 161 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: jealous as I've been of the past, you know, just 162 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: being like, no, that's all you need as an excuse 163 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: to have people hang out is just like, hey, I 164 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: got a new record, like. 165 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: Comedy CDs it in the nineties. 166 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like informal hangs like in my friend's basement, you know, 167 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: listening to. 168 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: Like what the hell happened to me? Yeah, yeah, they're 169 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: all gonna laugh at you. 170 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: M That usually a formative experience, but like not nobody 171 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: was like, hey, guys, come on this Friday. Yeah, for 172 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: I just got the new Richard Pryor. 173 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 5: You know, they used to call them party records, and 174 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 5: they would especially do it with like like that's how 175 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: Red Fox got really really like successful, was exactly. You 176 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: would put out these like incredibly and they were like 177 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 5: a lot of them were really really dirty. It was 178 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 5: also stuff that like back in the day you would 179 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 5: have actually gotten like arrested for what's the word decency 180 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 5: or whatever. 181 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, I forget what movie. I think 182 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: it might be, Oh, brother, where art they? 183 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: But there's a scene where like they go to a 184 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: family's house and they're just all sitting around listening to 185 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: a record and or listening to the radio and just 186 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: like staring into the middle distance. 187 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: It's like crazy for. 188 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Me to think about that like being a thing that 189 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: people do, and yet no less crazy than like what 190 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: we do now, where we like sit around with each 191 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: other and look at our phones. 192 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Yeah, our own little listening party. 193 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're 194 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: going to get to know you a little bit better 195 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners 196 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: a couple of the things we're talking about. We are 197 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: recording this on Thursday, starting around noon, So as of 198 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: right now, no assassin has been arrested in the Charlie 199 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Kirk killing. We are going to just take a look 200 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: broadly at the difference between how the right has responded 201 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: to this versus how they responded to the killing of 202 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Melissa Hortman earlier this year, to what appeared to be 203 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: political assassinations. We'll talk about that, We'll talk about how 204 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: this is probably going to be one of our last 205 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: episodes because the Hollywood Reporter recently had a piece where 206 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: they talked to the one of the media executives behind 207 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: what's it called Inception AI. 208 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: Inception point to AI should learn the name of your 209 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: future master that you're leading with to keep your puny 210 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: podcast Human Life on the airwaves. 211 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: Just one quote from the announcement from the CEO. I'm 212 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: just gonna exert this one sentence, and this is a 213 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: full sentence. It might sound like I'm taking it out 214 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: of context. We believe that in the near future, half 215 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: of the people on the planet will be AI. 216 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: What the fuck? Wait? 217 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: What? 218 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 219 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, half half half of the people will 220 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: be AI. 221 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: Where are we at right now? With a lot a 222 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: billion people on the planet right now? Are AI? Yeah? 223 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: We it's around eight point okay, so we're gonna have 224 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: sixteen billion people in eight billion in the Yeah. Yeah, 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: that's a lot of mouths defeat. 226 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Oh man, So they're so horny for it in the 227 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: c suite the c suite has Has the C suite 228 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: ever been hornier for anything than they are horny for. 229 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: Maybe the dot com? It's like the dot com thing. 230 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: I think this is meta. 231 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 5: The metaverse thing, like that was a real website. 232 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: But I feel like that was just a little bit more. Yeah, 233 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: I feel like those were more unevenly distributed, and like 234 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: with the dot com boom, it was like these companies 235 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: that were like out there. They were like rising up 236 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: and like getting a lot of attention. But it wasn't 237 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: like the Fortune five hundred. Companies of the early nineties 238 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: were all like if you don't have like a maybe 239 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: it was I actually don't remember, I was fucking a child. 240 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: But like the way that like Apple just like took 241 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: a hit, their stock took a hit because they didn't 242 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: like incorporate. 243 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: AI and talking about AI idiot. Anyways, we'll talk about that. 244 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the new Kamala Harris book book is coming, where. 245 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: I think everyone's like, ooh, we're gonna. 246 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: Get some tea, and it sounds like there's like some 247 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: good shit in there. I don't know, it's. 248 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: Kind of just shit that it's like nothing surprising. She's like, yeah, 249 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: they all fucking worship Joe Biden and Jill Biden there 250 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: and whatever, and you're like, okay, but you know it's 251 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: interesting today though, because The Atlantic put out like an 252 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: excerpt from the book that everyone's reporting on. Now we're 253 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: getting quotes from like anonymous Biden people who are fucking 254 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: clapping back. Oh really, I'll read some of those, yeah, 255 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: some responses from them. 256 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: This is, by the way, a genre of book that, 257 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: according to the people at audiobooks dot com, is like 258 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: the least finished type of book, which is like audiobooks 259 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: by presidential candidates. People buy them and they do not 260 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: finish them. All of that plenty more. But first, Alan, 261 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something 262 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: from your search history that's revealing about who you are? 263 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 5: Okay, so, just recently there's been a bunch of pre 264 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 5: sales for Tame and Paula shows coming up. 265 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: Oh so, and I. 266 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: Got kind of screwed, and I've got screwed before. These 267 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 5: are Ticketmaster, of course, and I so my last thing 268 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 5: that I searched was and the first word of it's 269 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: very alarming Reddit. I searched Reddit refresh, ticketmaster or wait, 270 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: that's the full thing that I searched. Because Reddit, for 271 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 5: all of it's many many many many many many many 272 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 5: many many flaws, it actually is like a place where 273 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 5: you can find stuff out every once. 274 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: Human advice too, like. 275 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 5: Someone who with someone who is exactly dealing with or 276 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 5: dealt with exactly what you're talking about, and they get 277 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 5: they get like, it gave me the answer. It told 278 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: me exactly how to do it, because a lot of 279 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: times you like, I'll like wait and it says, oh, no, refresh, 280 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: but then like it doesn't actually put you in the queue. 281 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 5: So even though you were there tim and before, now 282 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 5: you're in the back of the line and blah blah blah. 283 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 5: So it's like, I figure out how to do it, 284 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: and it did work. What you're supposed to do is 285 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 5: you get in like fifteen minutes before and just keep refreshing, 286 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 5: even if it's before the sale goes and eventually you'll 287 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 5: get a Q code, and once you have a Q code, 288 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 5: then you're good. 289 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: So were you able to get tickets? 290 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 5: Yes? I did, Yeah, I was able to get I 291 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 5: got one other show in the forum, and uh, it 292 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 5: just so happens that I'm going to be in New 293 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 5: York City at the end of October when they're doing 294 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 5: shows there, and I got a ticket to that. 295 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: One as well. Oh okay, yeah, okay. 296 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 5: I'm a big I'm a big I guess we want 297 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: to talk about personality. I'm a I'm a big cee 298 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: cee bands. I like multiple times I didn't get to 299 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: see Tom Petty that one show before he died, and 300 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: it's like haunting me. Yeah, it's me. I had like 301 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 5: Tom Petty's Florida, like I really and and like it 302 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: was the type of thing where it's like I think 303 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 5: I might have turned down two people that asked me 304 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: to go to it, and so it's just like that's 305 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 5: really really obviously haunted me. So like I saw Vampire 306 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: Weekend eight times last year and and it's really good. 307 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 5: Oh man, so good. I'm gonna see it again, I 308 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: think too. But uh but yeah, anyway, so that that's 309 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 5: the all insight. 310 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 6: No. 311 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: I do like Reddit because there's even stuff where, like 312 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: I remember when I was trying to buy a refrigerator 313 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: like a while back there there would you get these 314 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: things where people are like, let me tell you, I'm 315 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: like an appliance repair person, and like this one brand, 316 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: I rarely see warranty complaints on it, Like that's like 317 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: the legit fucking information. I'm looking for someone who repairs 318 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: it goal but I never have to fix these ones, 319 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: right like there it is, thank you, thank you hard 320 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: working appliance repair person. 321 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: All Reddit, I it is interesting like that Reddit is 322 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: the like all the all Reddit is is like a 323 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: shadow version of the regular Internet without sponsored bullshit like 324 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: slipped in, so like you know, like what when you're searching, 325 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: it's just that's what the Internet used to be. Is 326 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: just like a place where the posts are not sponsored 327 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: by companies trying to just get your money. So it's 328 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: just like what if the Internet wasn't like completely and 329 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: irrevocably broken by capitalism. It's like, well, I feel like 330 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: and that's why you read it has its flaws, but 331 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: you have to tag read it at the end, like 332 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: because if you search best refrigerator straight up, yeah exactly exactly, Yeah. 333 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: What is something you think is underrated? 334 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 5: Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb, But for years and 335 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 5: years and years I have been driving around without a 336 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: phone holder in my car. Uh huh, And I just 337 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 5: got I just got one. And we're not talking about 338 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 5: these things enough. 339 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 340 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: Decades, Oh my god, Like literally, I want to say 341 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: the last time I had one was probably six ish, 342 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 5: more more than five years ago, maybe even significantly more so. 343 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 5: It really is the type of thing where I'm like, wow, 344 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: I I literally have the fun that the other day 345 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: driver is like my phone's right. 346 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: There, just right there. It's just. 347 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 5: Oh my god. So anyway, I think those little pieces 348 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 5: of plastic are pretty underrated. 349 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: Prior to that, you were just driving around with it 350 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: in front of your face, withuting it up in front 351 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: of your face. 352 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 2: An exact same spot where the holder would be. 353 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I had a couple of phones. I have 354 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: the Android item all. I had like a real Goldberg machine, 355 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 5: et pro dash cam, all of it. Yeah, but now 356 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 5: I just have the one holder. Yeah. 357 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, always a boxing glove and a uh that's connected 358 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: to a wheel somehow. 359 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, like on a plunger. Yeah, and I'm that like 360 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: spins for it and kicks something. 361 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 5: Usually I'm usually driving down Banana Peel Lane. 362 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: And is it a phone holder that connects into the 363 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: air conditioning vent? 364 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 5: Yes, but it is also one that has enough space 365 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: so that it it's like I can still feel the 366 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: air from that vent. 367 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Sounds like you got a good one out. Yeah, 368 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: I gotta search Reddit. 369 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: Do you search readit to figure out what's going to get? 370 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 5: No, that one, I just took that one. I just 371 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: took a stab in the dard because I think what 372 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: I think, what what happened. Was the phone feul or something. 373 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 5: I was like, let me just get one of these 374 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 5: fucking things right now. 375 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: I think you were doing the search on a broken 376 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: phone from the falling. 377 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, exactly. 378 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, phone holder for a car, and then you just 379 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: hit the unfeeling. But that's not even a thing anymore, 380 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: don't Yeah, do they even have they do they do? 381 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: Here? I'm gonna do right now, still holder for car 382 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: and guess what, assholes it Google. I'm feeling fucking lucky. 383 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: Oh it just fucking feeling. It doesn't even give I 384 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 2: didn't realize what it does. It just sends you to 385 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: what sends you to the top results. Oh yeah, that 386 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: sent me straight to Amazon. 387 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 5: Amazing, amazing. 388 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: They should I feel like they should be like, I'm 389 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 2: feeling really lucky and like you hit that and you 390 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: just like get the thing whatever they want to send you. 391 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: They're just like, yeah, you just bought that shit. I'm 392 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: gonna put Tame and Paula tickets refreshed. I'm feeling lucky. 393 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: There you go, just send me straight to fucking ticketmaster. 394 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: There you go, are good friends at Ticketmaster. What is 395 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? 396 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: All right? This is going to be really controversial. And 397 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 5: I know that everything's been really calm and hunky dory recently, 398 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna stir the pot the Arc Light. I'm 399 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 5: gonna say that the Arc Light is overrated. I'm tired 400 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 5: of hearing about it. It's over Did you. 401 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Not get our coming back? Did you the email or 402 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: we said that you couldn't talk about we just stop 403 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: the recording stuff. 404 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: We can't. We can't do. 405 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: This now, Like, what are you trying to get our 406 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: show taken off air? 407 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 5: So funny, it's so funny just because I like, I 408 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 5: love the Arc Light because of the innovation of reserving 409 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 5: your seats, but then once that became like another that 410 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: became pretty much the normal. I'm like, the way people 411 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 5: talk about the Arc Light is like their dad went 412 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 5: out for a pack of smokes and never came back. 413 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 5: Like it's just like it's so so too much. And 414 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: also it's just like I think it's just it's just 415 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 5: one of those things are absence makes the heart grow 416 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 5: fonder because it's like when you're really in that that 417 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: specific part of Hollywood too, it's just like we're we're 418 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 5: yon Days Heydays. 419 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: I mean, we're where where is an arc light anymore? 420 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: Oh they're gone, They're gone, They're out of business. Yeah, 421 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: this is just Yeah, I feel like, isn't there there's 422 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: not even one life somewhere because I know, like the 423 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: Sherman Oaks one's gone. Obviously, Hollywood's gone. 424 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Now I think the whole company went out of business 425 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. 426 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: And it's some weird thing too, us like an American 427 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: movie theater chain. 428 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, like why did they like is it? It's like 429 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: is it whoever owns the property? Is it like a 430 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 5: least thing or what? 431 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, well, now you're gonna get me in trouble 432 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: because now this is where I start talking about the plandemic. 433 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah now yeah, why how come we don't have the 434 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: Cineramlen Dome anymore? Huh? That's right where the real truths 435 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: are being transmitted to us. 436 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: It's funny because I totally agree that it's like we're 437 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: remembering it here, like we're remembering a version of it 438 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: at a time when it was like doing some innovative 439 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: things that nobody else was doing, and now all those 440 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: things have been like co opted by AMC And like 441 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: that's that does suck. It sucks that were like, AMC 442 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: did it? You can get a fuck off, but it is. 443 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't get what I like. My thing is, 444 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 5: I'm just like, why didn't Why didn't any like really 445 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 5: rich person just step in and like do like kind 446 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: of the same way Quentin Tarantino like yeah it did 447 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: with like the vista or whatever. And also it's like 448 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 5: but but but my the and the reason why I 449 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 5: brought up is because just I still hear people talking 450 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: about it. I'm still always hearing people talk about it. 451 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 5: So I'm just like, maybe it's maybe it's like true love. 452 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 5: Maybe it's like when we finally all collectively like let 453 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 5: it go, then it. 454 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Will come back. 455 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 456 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay. I like that. 457 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: I like that theory that like, once you work on yourself. 458 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: So this is it's not saying that the arc Light 459 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: is not a worthy, you know, subject of our adoration. 460 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: It's just that we need to work on ourselves. 461 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked. 462 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: The mirror. 463 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, 464 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: and we're back. 465 00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: We're bad. 466 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: So we're in the aftermath. You know, this is coming 467 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: out a day and a half after you know, Charlie 468 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: Kirk was murdered. We're recording it less than twenty four 469 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: hours after Donald Trump is already like waged war on 470 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: anybody who is critical of right of any in his ideology. 471 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, just we just wanted to like compare how 472 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: this assassination the whole Like this is something we talked 473 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: about on yesterday's trending, but like a really like very horrifying, 474 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: Like I don't think like the combination of everybody seeing it, 475 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: like the number of places that it was being shown 476 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: to people, like including the New York Times, the fact 477 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: that it's like a person that I guess he's not 478 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: like a household name, but he's like well like people 479 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: knew who he was, or at least a lot of 480 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: people had seen him. And then just like how fucking 481 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: gory and awful it was. It was like a really 482 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: traumatic thing. And you know, I think it's a potent 483 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: material that the Right is working with, and I think 484 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: they know that and are like digging in as much 485 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: as possible. 486 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: Oh completely, yeah. 487 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: But it's not just like the Right. It does feel 488 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: like the New York Yankees held a moment of silence 489 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: for Charlie Kirk. 490 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 5: He was a media guy, Like that's the other thing, 491 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 5: he was just like a media guy. 492 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and like one that had some pretty horrific 493 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: white supremacist views. So like the fact that like a 494 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: mainstream institution like the New York Yankees is holding a 495 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: moment of silence when again, like comparing this to Representative 496 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Melissa Hortman, who was a politician in Minnesota who was assassinated. 497 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: She and her husband and their dog were assassinated in 498 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: their home by a Trump supporter earlier this year, and 499 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: the Yankees did not hold a moment of silence for them. 500 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: The Yankees statement that they issued on social media couldn't 501 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: be bothered to mention the school shooting that happened in Colorado, 502 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: like right at the same time. And yeah, it's just 503 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: it is a fallacy, logical fallacy that the right in 504 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 1: the United States really likes to play on, which is 505 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: just selection bias and you know, orally showing and like 506 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: focusing on crimes and really visceral things that are going 507 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: to support their political point of view, and you know, 508 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: they just pick and choose which victims of political violence 509 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: they recognize. 510 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 5: One thing real quick that I just sort of was thinking, 511 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 5: is that step with the Yankees thing it's like that 512 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: came from the owner, like right like that, like they a. 513 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball thing. Someone at the Yankees like, we 514 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: got to do this. 515 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 5: That's a guy that probably like at some function or whatever, 516 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: met Charlie Kirk, and I was like, he's a nice guy, 517 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 5: he's a family man. We have to do this. I 518 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: just kind of like because it is weird. It's like, 519 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: why would baseball team comment on this in general? 520 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: Like what I think it indicates again, and I was 521 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: saying this on the trending episode yesterday, is just how 522 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: much like the now default sort of perspective people have 523 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: is that of a conservative or through conservative. 524 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: Media institutionally that is certainly the case. Yeah, that's that's 525 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: just where that's the default now. And I think you know, 526 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: like even what the Yankees posted it said quote before 527 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: tonight's game, we had a moment of silence and more 528 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk. Kirk founded the youth activist group Turning 529 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: Point USA and become a fixture on college campuses. Charlie Kirk, 530 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: a husband and father of two, was thirty one years old. 531 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: You're like leaving out all of the details. That's the 532 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: way supremacist group. Yeah, and what and exactly like that. Rhetorically, 533 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: they're fanning the flames of these of this completely out 534 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: of control fucking era we're in, especially with right right 535 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: wing extremism and the normalization of like white like white nationalism. 536 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: But again, I think that's because that's that's currently the 537 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: default of American culture. Culture is to be like, well, 538 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: we don't say things like that. We just look past that, 539 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: and we're just going to say that this is a 540 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: person and that's what it is. And yeah, I think 541 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: that's really The thing that was really that struck me 542 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: was to see the number of like pieces that were 543 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: written that were like leaving out all like just completely 544 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: obfuscating like what his legacy is in terms of a 545 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: media personality or if you want. 546 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: To, Yeah, that'sially ephemistic, right. 547 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: Or left or whatever. I mean, especially after something like 548 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 5: especially and incredibly, I mean I saw the video gruesome, 549 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 5: like very real, very real, very traumatic. There is just 550 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 5: such a strong inclination to live in the fantasy world 551 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 5: and to not deal with the reality of what is 552 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 5: actually going on. So it's like this is a like 553 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 5: opportunity for a lot of people to harken back to 554 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: like a time that people are talking about free speech 555 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: and stuff like that in this and it's like literally 556 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: what a month and a half ago, cops are like 557 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 5: busting heads on college campuses because students deign to say 558 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: we shouldn't give money to Israel. Like, you know, it's 559 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 5: just like the totally totally, it's just an opportunity. And 560 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 5: as we're seeing, you know, I'm sure we'll dig into this, 561 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: but like I just the thing that really got under 562 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 5: my skin was Nancy Mace just like reacting so and yes, 563 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 5: I understand it's raw, and I'm not denying anyone of 564 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 5: their emotional response to what happened and what they're seeing, 565 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: especially if they knew this guy. But they're immediately laying 566 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 5: it at They're literally saying, this is the Democrat's fault. Yeah, 567 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: they don't they don't know who it is. I think 568 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 5: they've I think they've used a picture of the personnel 569 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 5: that they have no lead, they have no idea who 570 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 5: it is or why they did it, and they're there. 571 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this is what they want. They want 572 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 5: this moment and they want to foment it, and they 573 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 5: want it's probably easier for them if the Americans just 574 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 5: start attacking each other than if they have to do 575 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 5: any crowd control stuff or anything like that. 576 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, or well, I think this is an excuse to 577 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: do the crowd control stuff that they want to do, 578 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: which will. 579 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: Allow them to not have definite Yeah. 580 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, But just to reiterate this comparison that I think 581 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people are making. A US lawmaker, you know, 582 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: a Melissa Hortman, a politician, was assassinated three months ago 583 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: flags were not flown at half masted across the country. 584 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: Trump has ordered that all flags across the country be 585 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: flown at half masted until fourteenth. Yeah, and his social 586 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: media response to the Hortman assassen back in June didn't 587 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: even mention her name, of course, didn't take any responsibility 588 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: with you know, the person who committed that murder, being 589 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: a Trump supporter, refused to give Tim Walls a phone 590 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: call and skipped her funeral and went golfing with Lindsay Graham. Insteedge, 591 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: So it it is just like you know, the most 592 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: it's blatantly politicized. Anything he's saying about like political violence 593 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: being out of hand is only being observed about one 594 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: type of political violence. 595 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 596 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: I think I'm also just it's again the amount of 597 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: attention being paid to this by people who are like 598 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: diametrically opposed on the political spectrum. 599 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: To Kirk, it's like very odd to me. I'm like, 600 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know, maybe you just give it 601 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: the same amount of attention that the Republicans give to 602 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: a slain Democratic lawmaker, right Like there is this sort 603 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: of like having to prove that they're like there's like 604 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: a moral high ground. But I mean, like, you know, 605 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: say whatever you need to say. But to again, like 606 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: to see people like write these pieces in the New 607 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: York Times that were like I had a lot in 608 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: common with him, like you did in what way? And 609 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: then also be like he was a free speech advocate, 610 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: Like can you define free speech advocate? Like is that 611 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: to does that mean they fight for everyone's right to 612 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: free speech? 613 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 5: Or it was such a big it was such a 614 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 5: big for part of the abundance agenda, right. 615 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: Right, Like what what what is going on? But again, 616 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: I think that's what's I think that's what's really surreal 617 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: again is to see how the culture is completely reset 618 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: and be like, well, this is the default way to 619 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: speak about this. Don't mention anything that like try and 620 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: absolve this person of everything they've said and every like 621 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: horrible thing they've said about non cisheit white people. 622 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 5: Well, and that's also where we see the like, yeah, 623 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 5: journals and political pundits and other people with podcasts aren't 624 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 5: going to take attack because in this moment, like podcaster 625 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 5: is like the ultimate like thing. It's not it's not 626 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 5: the political thing right now. It's like it's the fact 627 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 5: that this could happen to someone that isn't political, isn'tellected, 628 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 5: isn't a public official, but you know, has the ears 629 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 5: of all these many people is a huge platform. It's 630 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 5: just it's it's just a it's a very hard realization 631 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 5: of how muddied everything has become and how obviously there's 632 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 5: somebody that we already knew it, but we're just seeing 633 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 5: it in real time. Just how the institutions are basically worthless. 634 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 5: I mean literally, like the FBI can't catch the guy 635 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 5: because there's this fuck an idiot that's in charge of 636 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 5: it right now, and like yeah, I mean just. 637 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: That that was like live tweeting. 638 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: The thing was like we got someone, Okay, it wasn't him, 639 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: we got some line. 640 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't like what. 641 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: The fuck man, It's like, why are you playing the 642 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: crab rave music? After that, we got up and we 643 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: got him. Actually we don't, we don't. I mean, just 644 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: another like kind of institutional thing, is that South Park 645 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: episode was taken down really in the aftermath. Yeah, it 646 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: was taken off of Comedy Central. I think it's still 647 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: available on Paramount Plus. 648 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 5: But what was there when about this? 649 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Cartman played a Charlie Kirk type character with Charlie 650 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: Kirk hare. Oh yeah, I mean it was a thing that, like, 651 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: you know, Charlie Kirk said he thought was hilarious. Yeah, 652 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: I usually think this is hilarious. But the way that 653 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: people on the right responded to that was somebody said 654 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: on X they mocked him on TV, then they killed 655 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: him in real life, comedy has consequences. A turning point 656 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: USA staffer posted on telegram. 657 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: The thing is like they get browbeaten like over this 658 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: when this it just obviously you have the intentionally hypocritical 659 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: people on the right who are like, right, please tell 660 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: me about jokes again and what leads to real life 661 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: outcomes and what doesn't. But I think that's what just 662 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: kind of surreal too, is you just see all of 663 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: this like someone who you hear their words and like 664 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 2: this is actually this is terrifying to hear someone express 665 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: these kinds of viewpoints to an audience of millions that 666 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: is meant to essentially make people like me or who 667 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: look like me like just subhuman and free to just 668 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: to to slander the good name of innocent people just 669 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 2: because they're transgender or whatever. I don't know. I mean, 670 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm I'm always like wrestling with how America just kind 671 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: of like rears its ugly head. But to have like 672 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: just kind of like to see it almost feel like 673 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: the tone of the media be like you have to 674 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: grieve this person right now. Yeah, It's a little crazy. 675 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: It's just it feels like I'm like, what the fuck, man, 676 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: I'm the ship that he was talking about is absolutely 677 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: terrifying to me, and I'm now expected to like feel 678 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: a completely different way about a person who says words 679 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: that are, for lack of a better word, presenting an 680 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: existential threat to people like me. 681 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, he had he had a family, right, Yeah, And 682 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 7: I get that, and you know, and that's the thing 683 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 7: I one hundred like, especially becoming a parent myself, I 684 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 7: don't wish an untimely death on anyone, especially like what 685 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 7: because I think about too, I think about the position 686 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 7: I'm in and if I left sooner than I would hope, 687 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 7: and thinking of my own children, that's fucking terrible. 688 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 2: But I think you can that can be true. And 689 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: you can also report on the fact that everything this 690 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: guy stood for was really like antithetical to like what 691 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 2: a decent America would look like, and this. 692 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: Is being used to kind of more deeply ingrain those 693 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: values into the mainstream of right. 694 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 5: No, no, no attempt to. That's one thing too that 695 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 5: I just always go to. It's like, look at what 696 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 5: the president is saying. The president is not saying any 697 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 5: sense of unity or coming together or anything like that. 698 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: Let's get it. 699 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 5: It's true, let's get them, Let's make it worse. And 700 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 5: it's just like, all right, well, I guess that's America. Yeah, Okay, 701 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 5: two hundred odd years later, three hundred years later, whatever 702 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 5: half the country hates the other half of the country, 703 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 5: all right, I guess I guess the experiment worked. 704 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of 705 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: the fourth of July be real interesting. Next year they 706 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: look back, Wow, what a time it's been. 707 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee issued a tribute to American patriot Charlie 708 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: Kirk on social media. This is the same person that, 709 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: after the Hortman assassination, claimed the killer was a Marxist 710 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: and posted a photo of the killer with the caption 711 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: nightmare on Waltz Street. 712 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 713 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah it's and then yeah, it took 714 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: a while for people to be like, what the fuck 715 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: are you posting? 716 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: Man, He's like, ah, sorry, all right, right, I'll take 717 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: it down. I'll take it. 718 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, mikely is Utah, right. 719 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, likely is also Utah. 720 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 5: It's that's the crazy, the crazy. The fact that it 721 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 5: was in Utah is really dies. Yeah, like one of 722 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 5: the most conservative, homogeneous judge that that is very I 723 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 5: didn't have that on my bingo card. 724 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 2: Oh man, there it is. 725 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: He said it, all right. And that was my main 726 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: response to this was it was so random. It was 727 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: so random. 728 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 2: This year is like the most random year. I feel like, 729 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 2: oh my god, this year is so random, so fucking random. 730 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 2: Right now, Oh my god, did you. 731 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: Say ice ice rates are crinn and they're like so random, 732 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: random random? 733 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 2: You guys, you know there's a podcast talking like that too, right, 734 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 2: now so random right now, it's probably hosted by all 735 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: thirteen year olds, and it's fucking awesome. It does. 736 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 4: So good, like that food podcast, This thirteen year old 737 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 4: that's so good, dude, Like, I don't know, what do 738 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: you think of Pepperoni pizza? 739 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I think Pepperoni is a little sus. 740 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, it feels I mean, they've set this tenor 741 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: for a long time, so it just I think in 742 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: some ways it's easy to dismiss as like that, that's 743 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: just like the right wing, fuck your feelings and sensitivity 744 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: around the killing of a democratic politician. But this, you know, 745 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: it's they're very specific and like an event like this 746 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: and their immediate politicist politicization of it makes it clear 747 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: that there is a larger strategy that you know, this 748 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: is allowing them to sell this bullshit narrative that the 749 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: left is solely responsible for political violence in America as 750 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: opposed to like rarely responsible for the political violence in America. 751 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just iron to coming from Republicans being like, 752 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: you know, you should you should really respect this person 753 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: and things need to be done in the aftermath of this. 754 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: When how many times do little children with children shot 755 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 2: to death and people like, can you pass a fucking 756 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 2: law or something like is that? And again they're just 757 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 2: plugging their ears and just you know, whistling past the 758 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: graveyard like nothing's going on. And I think that's just 759 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: again like all of these ironies kind of really come 760 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: together to sort of like just present itself as like 761 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: one big mind fucking an event like this and be like, oh, 762 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: and now they're going to use this to make shit 763 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: worse for people. Probably. 764 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: I just think about the Oklahoma City bombing and like 765 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: the fact that that was like a right wing terrorist 766 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: and like right never take kills like so many children, 767 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: like it blew up like a fucking preschool, and that's 768 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: not like when you think about that event, it's not 769 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: like and that was when we realized right wing terrorism 770 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: was a problem, and like it was just you know, 771 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: a detail of that. 772 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: Not even I mean, I mean I that was ninety four, right, yeah, 773 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: And I just remember I was ten years old and 774 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 2: not that I was like an I watched the news 775 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: because I was you know, like on TV, and I 776 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 2: just would watch TV. But I remember like all of 777 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 2: that was flattened into and then this guy Timothy McVeigh 778 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: did it lone wolf there pot, yeah, boom and that's it. 779 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: And then it wasn't until I was in college it 780 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: was like, wait, oh god, this. 781 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: Is part of this massive right wing movement, right, yeah. 782 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break. 783 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 1: We'll come back and talk about why this is probably 784 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: one of our last episodes. 785 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: We'll be right back and we're back. I mean, there's 786 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 2: so many reasons this might be one of our last. 787 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: Gentlemen, it's been a privilege and an honor podcasting with 788 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: you this evening. 789 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, now get out our violins. 790 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just play like shit because I don't know 791 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: how to play the violin. That would be amazing if 792 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: like one of the people was just like, sorry, I'm 793 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: freaking out a little bit. 794 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 2: Sorry. 795 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: Also I'm not very good, dude, know this. The fucking 796 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: ship is really listing? Oh man, are we still gonna play? 797 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: My hands are so fucking sweaty right now? How are 798 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: you guys playing? 799 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 5: Does? They won't have an ox chord? 800 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be much easier if I can just play something, 801 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: some kind some chamber of music. But yeah, I only 802 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 2: say that and maybe flippantly, maybe sincerely, because AI, I mean, 803 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 2: it sounds like they're gearing up to take over the 804 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 2: podcasting world because the Hollywood Reporter recently had a piece 805 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: where they spoke with the people behind Inception AI and 806 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: they make just a fuck ton of AI podcasts. I'll 807 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: get to the numbers in a second. And they try 808 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: to frame this article like in the beginning, like, god, 809 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 2: are people aren't like networks tired of paying like humans 810 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: to talking. 811 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: Or like pank celebrity like these crazy deals. I do 812 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: get what's the most appointing? What's the most annoying part 813 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: of podcasts? Having? 814 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: That's the worst fucking part? Am I right, ladies? This 815 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: year is so random. But anyway, The CEO of this 816 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 2: AI company is a former exec from Wondery, another podcast network, 817 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 2: and the Jack alluded to her like Facebook post that 818 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 2: she put it out to like announce this thing. Hey, 819 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: this is the full part. I'm thrilled to emerge from 820 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 2: stealth and share the public debut of Inception Point AI, 821 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 2: the company I joined as co founder and CEO this summer. 822 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, just to what an opening sorry merge from still 823 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 6: to emerge from stealth and share this like is such 824 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 6: a great way to open any work of social media. 825 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can join as a co founder. 826 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: I think it's it's because someone with a fuck ton 827 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: of money goes, Hey, we'd love for you to be 828 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: the face of this thing, to give this some credibility. 829 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 2: Be co founder, we'll make CEO. Yeah, because also, like 830 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: I guess, I guess I haven't heard that phrase emerge 831 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 2: from Stealth before, but O goddamn little little wonky. 832 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: Use of that word drilled to take off my ghost 833 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: protocol hood and reveal that I'm that I've joined. 834 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 2: An AI podcast company. Goes on as Jack said, we 835 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: believe that in the near future, half of the people 836 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 2: on the planet will be AI. That's when my eyes 837 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: rolled into the back of my head and I go, 838 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: we're cooked that you if there are people sip in 839 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 2: the AI kool aid, this hard, I mean, fucking yikes. 840 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 2: She goes on to say, we're bringing these people to life, 841 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: and we're bringing the next generation content business model, all 842 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: powered by AI. In the process, we built what we 843 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 2: believe to be the first AI talent management agency with 844 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 2: an extensive roster of fake ass people we created with algorithms. 845 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 5: And that's been a thing, that's been a thing already too. 846 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we've we've had these voices, these voice models 847 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 1: being created. 848 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: And things like that. But now they're really trying to 849 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 2: like brand each one and be like and they do 850 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. So their whole model is essentially 851 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 2: to flood the zone with shit podcasts. But because their 852 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 2: overhead is solo, they can make a profit on a 853 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: laughably small number of listens. This is from the higher 854 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: report quote. The company is able to produce each episode 855 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: for one dollar or less, depending on length and complexity, 856 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: and attach programmatic advertising to it. This generally means that 857 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 2: if about twenty people listen to that episode, the company 858 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 2: made a profit on that episode without factoring in overhead inception. 859 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 2: Point Air has already made more than five thousand shows 860 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 2: across its network and produces more than three thousand episodes 861 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: a week. 862 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: Wow and yeah, been up for like a couple of years, 863 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: which does again beg the question of joining as a 864 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: co founder two years in. 865 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 2: It's good negotiating tactic. Really, I'm going to see. 866 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: This being just like like a non starter because I 867 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: do think that the thing people look for from podcasts 868 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: is humanity. It's like a thing that like they they're 869 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: not just necessarily looking for like some quick way to 870 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: get voice facts shoveled into their brain. I think a 871 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 1: lot of the time the you could read an article 872 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: if you wanted that, or like have an article read 873 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: to you. 874 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: But I could also. 875 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: See this kind of ruining things because they're going to 876 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 1: be flooding the zone with so much shit. 877 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 5: That's yeah, yeah, that's the Amazon thing. 878 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's just going to be so many bad 879 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: podcasts indistinguishable from our bad podcast but completely you know, 880 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: flooding everything. There will be like five different podcasts. The 881 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: good news is, like, this is not how people like. 882 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: People don't find podcasts by being like, all right, I'm 883 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: going to go to uh that podcast and search for 884 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 1: a topic that I think I want to know about, 885 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: and then you know, people find out about podcasts, and 886 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: then because followers, some do. 887 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 2: Apparent according to them, apparently because their whole thing set 888 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: up is cool. Podcast topics are selected with the help 889 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 2: of AI based on Google and social media trends, and 890 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 2: then the team may launch five different versions of the 891 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: show with different titles to see what performs the best. 892 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 2: The podcasts are often titled after simple SEO search terms, 893 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 2: such as Wales Wales. 894 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah it's I was I went to the One of 895 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: our most popular episode is Wales is Whales? 896 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 5: They got Wales? 897 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I went to their I went to their 898 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 2: website to just look at what their shows are called. 899 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 2: And it's shipped like this diddy verdict, the British monarchy, 900 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 2: like this one's crazy AI and the climate crisis. Are 901 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 2: you fucking serious You're with AI and thus contributing to 902 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: the climate crisis? Yeah? 903 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: Like is that one talking about the assassins. 904 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 2: Bourbon ben Betty Betty, Benny Boop, Chaos, Chuck MANGIONI forever. 905 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: China, communism creating? 906 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: This are these all? Are these episodes of the podcast 907 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 2: the use our series. Tell me a one, I'll click 908 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: on it and we can here, we can listen to one. 909 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to hear socialism. Oh the 910 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,399 Speaker 1: socialism where they take it down. 911 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see. This is uh, this is this is 912 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: here what they got. Oh, I'm not signing up you 913 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 2: fucking yeah, you need to pay for it. 914 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 8: Let's see, which simply means I never forget a vote, 915 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 8: a quote or a constitutional clause. Is no ego, no 916 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 8: pack money, just pure relentless recall. Tonight, we're tackling one 917 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 8: of the most misunderstood, maligned, and frankly butchered concepts in 918 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 8: American political discourse socialism. 919 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 5: But you here's my question. Though you can like and 920 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 5: maybe it will get better to what you really can't, 921 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 5: but you can tell that that is AI. 922 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 923 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well they're also they're trying to they're sort 924 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 2: of like trying to be at quote unquote ethical where 925 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 2: they have the hosts up top say their AI yeah, 926 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 2: and one of the founders is like, look, dude, I'm 927 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 2: not trying to have like create like these models that 928 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 2: people are gonna have like deep relationships with because like 929 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 2: this they see it as a completely different lane than 930 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 2: human hosted podcasts. But like when you look at it, 931 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 2: you're like, you're doing you're you're talking about subjects that 932 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 2: humans currently make podcasts about. So I don't know how 933 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 2: you You're like, well, no, it's not meant to replace 934 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 2: that at all. Like it's just we're just doing the 935 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 2: same thing. They are out of insane scale and maybe 936 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 2: people will fucking listen to it, Like you know, they're 937 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 2: they have the hosts. The names are really fucking dumb, 938 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 2: Like for the food podcast. 939 00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. I think these 940 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 1: names are totally normal. 941 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 2: Okay, what name the host of the food podcast Jack? 942 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 2: All right? 943 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: The food podcast is named uh oh, I actually love her. 944 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: I actually follow her on lots of different Claire Delish 945 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: and then of course my favorite source for gardening info 946 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: my health mm hmm, Nigel thistle Down. 947 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 2: Yes, and the fucking like the the AI models are 948 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 2: like it sounds like the same ones you hear on 949 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 2: TikTok basically when people use AI to caption shit. 950 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: But again, I believe it's the nominative determinism. 951 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like one of the finance one was like 952 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,959 Speaker 2: Penny power or something like that, quite dumb, goofy shit. 953 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: But again, I mean I don't know, like they will 954 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: it replace it? I don't know, but I think, like 955 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 2: to your point, Alan, like it's bad when you have 956 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 2: someone putting out three thousand episodes a week of indistinguishable bullshit, 957 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 2: because that just makes it harder for anyone who actually 958 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 2: wants to podcast to be to have to like there's 959 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 2: now it's just all noise and now yeah, that's like 960 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 2: that's like a. 961 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,959 Speaker 5: Big part of Amazon's things. Like it's not that they 962 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 5: just are undercutting and they sell the product cheaper. It's 963 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 5: that they've also like they've taken away a viable way 964 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 5: for people to make money, like opening a small business 965 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 5: to like sell goods is a bad business idea now 966 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 5: because of Amazon. And so that yeah, that definitely and 967 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 5: and I mean, I will say this, podcasters are truly 968 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 5: some of the sickest people, and they in the in 969 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 5: the sphere of the internet or whatever. So they're still 970 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 5: going they're still gonna like go after it. But I 971 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 5: and it is the type of thing where you do 972 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 5: just think like, well, wait, but what if there are 973 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 5: people that aren't just that discerning and they're like, oh, 974 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 5: I'm listening to this, you know, AI podcast and they 975 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 5: don't really they don't care one way or the other. 976 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: Right, they were about to on the socialism one. I 977 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: could hear the host leading into it, so pour yourself 978 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: a glass of your favorite bourbon or something like that, 979 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh, that is like there's 980 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: a certain type of like medium tier podcast that like 981 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 1: I've accidentally listened to where that's like the human element 982 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: is like, so pour yourself a favorite glass of bourbon. 983 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: I've got mine right here, right, and we're gonna dig in, 984 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: you know. So maybe, yeah, maybe this is gonna hit 985 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: hit with the people who like listen to whatever those 986 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: shows are. 987 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 2: We gotta hit, we gotta hit. I mean, it's funny. 988 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 2: The co founder of it, who I imagine is the 989 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 2: actual founder of it or the person who started he 990 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 2: got into this because in during the pandemic, he just 991 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 2: started like reading like weather reports and shit or no, 992 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 2: he was reading daily CDC reports and then and then 993 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 2: a bunch of people started reloading it. Yeah, just because 994 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 2: he was just just reading off a cdcerport and he's like, 995 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 2: okay now, and then he did like weather for robots 996 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 2: this yeah, and he's like, whoa weather report? And then 997 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 2: he was like there's a quote from him. He's like, 998 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 2: you know, talking about how people who are really like 999 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 2: if you have crazy allergies, you look like the Pollen 1000 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 2: Report and stuff. He said, quote, we might make a 1001 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 2: pollen podcast and maybe only fifty people listen to, but 1002 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm already a unit profitability on that, so then maybe 1003 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 2: I can make five hundred pollen report podcasts like these 1004 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,479 Speaker 2: people don't. This is what happens when people have never 1005 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 2: made a fucking thing in their life. 1006 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: Why have we never once on this? On the many 1007 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: many hours of the show used the phrase unit profit 1008 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: the fu does that even the cool and soulful term? 1009 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that that. 1010 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 1: Founder and you know he is the actual founder because 1011 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: his name is Pod Founderman. 1012 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 2: So yeah, oh. 1013 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 7: The Cincinnati Founderman's Yeah, the Cincinnati Founderman form of formerly 1014 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 7: of Louisville, Kentucky. 1015 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: All right, Uh so that sucks, but we there is 1016 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: some light at the end of the tunnel because Kamala 1017 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: Harris has announced her memoir. Yeah, it's coming. It's uh, 1018 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: I guess she hasn't announced it. She announced it a 1019 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: long time ago. It's coming. It's called one hundred and 1020 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: seven Days. So it's like about the one hundred and 1021 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: seven days that she ran for president. Do you guys 1022 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We all 1023 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,280 Speaker 1: realized like Biden was bad and then he we finally 1024 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: like everybody just pressured him enough into leaving the race. 1025 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: And then she had one hundred and seven days to 1026 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: run for president and like started with a spark and 1027 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: had like a couple of good ideas and then those 1028 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: were immediately like that like replaced by terrible shit by 1029 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and had a chance their advisors. Yeah, 1030 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: she like had ideas about like greedflation and calling the 1031 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: Democratic or the Republican party weird. And they're like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1032 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: shut the Why don't you shut the fuck up? 1033 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wonder here, kiss kiss Dick Cheney's daughter 1034 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 2: right now, Kiss her on stage. That's gonna work. 1035 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, she's she's doing some book tours, not at bookstores, 1036 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: but on a live speaking to her major venues. Some 1037 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: tickets going for more than four hundred dollars, not from 1038 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: like a reseller. That's the official price for a platinum ticket. 1039 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 2: What a fucking cariff. Man, that's amazing. Just like, man, 1040 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 2: that was a that was a shitty presidential campaign. Huh. 1041 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 2: You want to hear me talk about it for four 1042 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 2: hundred bucks? Yeah? Yeah, I do, I do, I do, 1043 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 2: I do. The experts are pretty telling, i'd say, presumably like. 1044 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: People are looking for some t spillage and like she 1045 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: she just really published an excerpt in The Atlantic that 1046 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: defends Biden to some extent, claiming that there was no 1047 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: cover up concerning his mental decline. 1048 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's where you lost me, Komala, Come. 1049 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you saw some ship also would kind 1050 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: of implicate her or something right. 1051 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, in a way, there wasn't really a cover up 1052 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 5: because literally the entire country was like, oh, that's all 1053 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 5: sides of every like there were like a few people 1054 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 5: that that tried to deny it, but like. 1055 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just chose to answer your question. She also said, 1056 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 1: and this is the refrain from the Biden side his debate, 1057 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: clusterfuck wasn't incapacity. It was just tiredness owing to recent trips. 1058 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,720 Speaker 1: And I think and then add in from Hunter Biden, 1059 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of ambient sprinkled in, so he was 1060 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't incapacity. He's just at an age where he 1061 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 1: was incapacitated by being a little bit tired. 1062 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 5: He was taking a trip down memory lane. 1063 00:56:54,040 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 2: That's the trips to take that that thing from Hunter 1064 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 2: Biden's like I was on ambient And then like they 1065 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 2: looked at the schedules, like bro he was he was 1066 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: traveled like traveling like a week solidly before that. But again, 1067 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 2: like you're saying, like that's not good if just if 1068 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 2: traveling makes you all tired like that and you want 1069 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 2: to be tuckered out from a trip like a week later, 1070 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 2: like that's that's not a good sign. That's like me, 1071 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm tuckered out from a trip a week later, but like, 1072 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to be present. I would be so 1073 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 2: bad at being present. I'd be so fucking sleepy. What 1074 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: would you do if. 1075 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: Comes up to you and says header gut jack, then 1076 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: I cry my superpower, crying my way out of things, 1077 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: well into my would be. 1078 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 2: Interesting that like the American president, with a completely different 1079 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: strategy from past American leaders, openly sobbing pathetically as a 1080 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 2: way to get just like stop like just stop mating, 1081 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 2: Like what the hell? All right, Jesus stopped fucking crying. Man, 1082 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 2: my god, you're gonna get snot on my. 1083 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 5: Supim taft president taft, big crier. 1084 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 2: Big yeah. But yeah, there are other things too where 1085 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 2: she was like where she is sort of like, look, 1086 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 2: there are a lot of times the right wing media 1087 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 2: was attacking me and they just didn't say shit. The 1088 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 2: White House didn't have my back at fucking all, and 1089 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 2: they're like absolutely accurate. 1090 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: Like the the energy coming out of the Biden camp 1091 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: during her run for president was like I don't know, 1092 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: ha haha. Not so easy to have a candidate who 1093 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 1: doesn't suck shit, huh, Like you know what I mean? 1094 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: Like they were just like praying she would. You got 1095 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: a sense that at least a large part of them 1096 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: maybe there were two wolves inside of them, and one 1097 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: was rooting for her, but another was definitely hoping to 1098 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: see her fail and be vindicated, or thinking that they 1099 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: had a better shot than her. 1100 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there was another thing that she said to quote, 1101 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 2: it's Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that like 1102 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 2: a mantra, as if we'd all been hypnotized. The stakes 1103 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 2: were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should 1104 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 2: have should have been left to an individual's ego and 1105 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 2: individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Yeah, Okay, 1106 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess like there's really nothing in 1107 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 2: here that isn't that's like shocking to me. I'm like, yeah, 1108 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 2: of course they hung you out to dry like that. 1109 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,439 Speaker 2: I mean, we saw that. 1110 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: This part, which I think we knew already worse. I 1111 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: often learned that the president's staff was adding fuel to 1112 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: negative narratives that sprang up around me. One narrative that 1113 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: took a stubborn hold was that I had a chaotic 1114 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 1: office and unusually high staff turnover during my first year. 1115 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 2: As vice president. 1116 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 1: I do remember that coming at a pretty critical point, yeah, 1117 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: in the and like that wasn't coming like they wouldn't 1118 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: have posted that if that was coming from like JD Vance, 1119 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that was coming from 1120 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: someone inside an administration. 1121 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's fucked up a lot of the two. 1122 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 5: It's like the Biden cognitive whatever cover up this about 1123 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 5: how his team was mean to her. All of it 1124 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 5: just reads. It's like the Democratic Party has no idea 1125 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 5: what the fuck it's doing. And like if if if 1126 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 5: this is what like and I don't know, I I 1127 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 5: to me, she feels done, Like I feel like I 1128 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 5: feel like, as like a populace, we're done with her. 1129 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 5: She also, I think, feels done, like I don't know 1130 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 5: if she would run again, but if she does, it's 1131 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 5: if she does, you know maybe, But like I'm just like, 1132 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 5: if this is what we're still talking about, it's like 1133 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 5: we're fucked. 1134 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the obvious like why did we lose? Like, guys, 1135 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 2: is it really that much of a mystery to you? 1136 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 5: Right? 1137 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: I think that's the only reason this story is of value. 1138 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Is just too further drive in the coffin of the 1139 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Democratic Party just like, guys, look how bad it was 1140 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, Like we all thought that they had 1141 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: a chance because we were hoping they had a chance. 1142 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, they were blowing it. 1143 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's a capitalist clown show, and they don't know, 1144 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 2: they don't realize how their devotion to capitalism and the 1145 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 2: status quote was really its whole undoing. And now it's 1146 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 2: now that I now seeing the quotes from the Biden 1147 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 2: administration people that are like giving quotes after in the 1148 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 2: aftermath of this excerpt, I'm like, now I believe everything 1149 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 2: she says. Like one person said, quote Vice President Harris 1150 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 2: was simply not good at the job. She had basically 1151 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 2: zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams, 1152 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 2: and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo 1153 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 2: ops that expressed how out of depth she. Wow, holy shit, dude, 1154 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 2: that's what they're saying now. The day after this, yeh 1155 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 2: came out, President Biden was not the mean. Actually you're 1156 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 2: fucking stupid. 1157 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're actually fucking I'm not refuting what we're saying 1158 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 1: at all. 1159 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just mean. Nobody likes you, but no 1160 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 2: one's going to tell you that to your face, but 1161 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 2: nobody actually likes you. They going to say, quote, President 1162 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 2: Biden was not the reason she struggled in officer tanked 1163 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: her twenty nineteen presidential campaign or lost the twenty twenty 1164 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 2: four campaign for that matter. The independent variable there is 1165 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 2: the vice president, not Biden or his aides. Damn. 1166 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 1: So you're like, that's like the best I've seen them 1167 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: at being like critical and clapping that backbone. 1168 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 2: They can't. They couldn't do that against Trump. They couldn't. Yeah, 1169 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 2: it's just but there's other quotes too that back when 1170 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 2: she says another aide or staffer who spoke in this 1171 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 2: one article, I think, let me just where was it 1172 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 2: in the New Republic said that quote. We all know 1173 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,439 Speaker 2: that the Biden folks treated her and her team like shit. 1174 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 2: We never thought she would actually say anything. Staffers across 1175 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 2: a range of ages and positions that I'm talking to 1176 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 2: are proud of her. Yeah, so there's clearly, like I 1177 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 2: mean again, and it just shows a very divided administration. 1178 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 2: And I think that was really probably became clear as 1179 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 2: Biden just sat on his hands after October seventh, too, right, 1180 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, we will see where if this, if this 1181 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 2: harms her career because you have other people being like, 1182 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 2: well she just nuked her career. Really, yeah, I mean 1183 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1184 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean like I feel like the type of people 1185 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: who say that, who are like play it safe politically 1186 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 1: always have have proven that they have. 1187 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 2: Some of the worst instincts in modern politics. I mean, 1188 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 2: like think about like Anthony Wiener, you know what I mean, 1189 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 2: who went to prison, Like he's even trying to get 1190 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 2: back in. Yeah, you know, it takes a lot to 1191 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 2: get it through to these people that it's like, hey, 1192 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 2: maybe you cooked Yeah I don't think. Yeah, I don't know. 1193 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: If only they had like some blueprint of a path 1194 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 1: forward that had a lot of public support, like just 1195 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 1: a New York mayor old candidate who was dominant and 1196 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: extremely popular that they've chosen to completely ignore and try 1197 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: and fuck over. 1198 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's like the thing where it's like it's like 1199 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 2: you say, like the like the Democrats are like like 1200 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 2: big pepsi people, and they're like, no, it's pepsi for everyone, 1201 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 2: Like everyone likes coke. 1202 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: No, no, it's pepsi. It's like I look at the 1203 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: fucking numbers man. Everyone nobody's drinking PEPs numbers. It tainted 1204 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: and like they can't even fucking admit it. 1205 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 2: They're just like fuck, like no, none of them are 1206 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 2: backing zor like like what the fuck is going on that? 1207 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,919 Speaker 5: I mean again, it's just like I I've just never 1208 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 5: felt more done with the Democratic Party as a whole. 1209 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 5: I'm just like, I don't know what you want from me. 1210 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 5: I want nothing from you, guys. I guess like, yeah, 1211 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 5: this is just crazy. 1212 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, seems bad. 1213 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 1: Well, Alan Strick, Williams, such a pleasure having you on 1214 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: the Daily likest as always. 1215 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 2: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? 1216 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 5: Find me on Instagram, alan Strick and Williams on totally, 1217 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 5: Allen on Twitter, on TikTok. I think Alan strickwings dot 1218 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 5: com is where you can find oh dates and links 1219 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 5: to the album and links to my podcast and links 1220 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 5: to all my social stuff. But yeah, listen to the 1221 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,439 Speaker 5: new episode of Finding My Audience with Chris crofton by 1222 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 5: my album ran through. Keep supporting the Daily zye Geist 1223 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 5: and you know what, Also, just just keep going, hey, 1224 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 5: all right, just keep on going, keep going, Just keep. 1225 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: Going, just one one foot in front of the most 1226 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 2: random stuff. 1227 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 5: I'm not chopped, am I. 1228 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: I feel like this is the first time that we've 1229 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: had you on that we haven't commented on how great 1230 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: your hair is. 1231 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 2: So real quick some of the best hairdos you a convertible. 1232 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 5: I actually do have a video of myself in a 1233 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,959 Speaker 5: convertible on Adult Swim. You can watch the last open 1234 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,439 Speaker 5: mic at the End of the World. 1235 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. 1236 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,680 Speaker 5: It was during the pandemic. They did a comedy open 1237 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 5: mic for Adult Swim. Megan Kister did it and it 1238 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 5: was you did it from your car because it's the pandemic. 1239 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 5: So I rented a convertible to do it. Hell yeah, person, 1240 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 5: I think I wore I think I wore the drive 1241 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 5: jacket too. 1242 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: You took a year off the life of the sound 1243 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: person on that special, I have to assend. Yeah, yeah, awesome. 1244 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying. 1245 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I saw this tweet. You know, this was yesterday, 1246 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 5: so I know it's weird with the timing of the episode, 1247 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 5: but this says twas the night before. This is September tenth, 1248 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 5: twas the night before. This from at Jason Mustian and 1249 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 5: it's just a picture of a plate of cookies and 1250 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 5: a picture of George W. Bush the night before. 1251 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Yes, miles Where can people find you? Is there a 1252 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 1: working media you've been enjoying? 1253 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 2: Oh Man, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find 1254 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 2: me on four twenty talking about ninety day fiance with 1255 01:06:55,040 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 2: Sophia Alexandra. Let's see. Is there a thing, a work 1256 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 2: of media that I enjoyed? Not really. I think I 1257 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 2: was kind of avoiding the media, to be honest, But 1258 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 2: I did work of media you've enjoyed avoiding? Yes, all 1259 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 2: social media? Social media, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes I 1260 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 2: will avoid social media just in one thing. Josh Furlinger 1261 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,479 Speaker 2: at jafra doty skuy dot social post it. I guess 1262 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 2: the main thing I'm learning this week is that lots 1263 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 2: of elite media people knew Charlie Kirk personally and didn't 1264 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 2: know any Minnesota state legislators. 1265 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 1: Seems to be the case. You can find me on 1266 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brian on Blue Sky Jack ob 1267 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 1: the number one. 1268 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 2: I liked this. 1269 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: I think I've shared this before, but this is kurb Bonnagat. 1270 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm buying an envelope. This is Rosalind Marghlez responded with 1271 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: this quote to a post from zech Zech which said 1272 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: order your groceries saves an extra one to two hours 1273 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 1: a week. Compounded, that's five fifty to one hundred hours 1274 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,360 Speaker 1: a year, a whole week work of worth of work 1275 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 1: you gain. I promise that that time is more important 1276 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: than the ten dollars delivery fee that was from Zech. 1277 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 2: And then Rosalind. 1278 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: Marglei's tweeted this quote from Kurvon to get on buying 1279 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: an envelope. Oh, she says, well, you're not a poor man, 1280 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 1: you know, why don't you go online and buy one 1281 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: hundred envelopes and put them in the closet. And so 1282 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I pretend not to hear her and go out to 1283 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: get an envelope, because I'm going to have a hell 1284 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: of a good time. In the process of buying one envelope, 1285 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 1: I meet a lot of people and see some great 1286 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: looking babies, and a fire engine goes by, and I 1287 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 1: give them the thumbs up, and I'll ask a woman 1288 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: what kind of dog that is? And I don't know. 1289 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: The moral of the story is we're here on earth 1290 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: to fart around, and of course the computers will do 1291 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: us out of that. And what the computer people don't 1292 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 1: realize or they don't care, is we're dancing animals, you know, 1293 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 1: we love to move around, and it's like we're not 1294 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 1: supposed to dance anymore. Preach Kurt Vonna get I guess 1295 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: pretty good. You can find us on Twitter and Blue 1296 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 1: Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. 1297 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 1: You can go to the description of this episode wherever 1298 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,640 Speaker 1: you're listening to it, and there at the bottom of 1299 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: the description you will find the footnote no, which is 1300 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked 1301 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: about in today's episode. We also link off to a 1302 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there 1303 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 1: a song that you think that people might enjoy? 1304 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, oddly enough. I was just watching the latest Team 1305 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 2: and Paula video for the track Loser that's gonna be 1306 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 2: on the album Deadbeat. And what's the guy Joe Kearney, 1307 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,600 Speaker 2: the guy from Stranger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's in it. 1308 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 2: It's it's it's nice. It's like it's like so East LA. 1309 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 2: It's like that whole setting is like such east side 1310 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. 1311 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 1: Just on this one little corner market. But I'm also 1312 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: a big Kevin Parker fan, and I'm really looking forward 1313 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 1: to this album, So you know, we'll keep teasing these 1314 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 1: songs out in Drips and Drives, but this is a 1315 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: loser by Team I paula Yeah, shout out to music videos. 1316 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,680 Speaker 1: By the way, Paul Thomas Anderson was like talking to 1317 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: about his new movie which he shot in like some 1318 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 1: old school form of like film that hadn't been used 1319 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: a long time. I think like panorama vision or some 1320 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 1: panavision panavision, and he was like, yeah, I like made 1321 01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: a music video a couple of years ago and like 1322 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: used it and it was like fun as hell. 1323 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 2: So you know, like people people are doing cool stuff 1324 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 2: in music video still, it's. 1325 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 1: Just like nobody has watched them in years. Anyways. 1326 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 2: We will link off to that in the footnotes. 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