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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Oh no, Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Into

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Speaker 1: It quick Books, the official sponsor of the NFL. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Ranzas, and I'm coming to you from

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Speaker 1: a city filled with heroes. In Bunker's Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rose Bal what's up boys? Hey? Dan? So Matt

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Speaker 1: money Smith, who's the man? In fact, I am currently

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Speaker 1: in the process of um rewatching the Great Nathan for

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Speaker 1: You Comedy Central series with Nathan Fielder. Of course, I

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Speaker 1: think one of the best TV shows period put out

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Speaker 1: last decade. And when Matt money Smith shows up in

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Speaker 1: the season one finale of Shame as the play by

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Speaker 1: play man, uh for the entire segment. Yes go. If

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Speaker 1: you have Hulu, go check it out because Money not

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Speaker 1: only is in it has a pretty big role, including

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Speaker 1: an interview at one point with Nathan. But anyway, as

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Speaker 1: I'm watching it with my wife, I'm like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: was just texting with Money today. We were going through

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Speaker 1: new Money Drop and it was great, and um, Money

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Speaker 1: is one of those guys that like, you know, you

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Speaker 1: want to have it on your text, you know you

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Speaker 1: wanna be in connection with money because he's just one

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Speaker 1: of those dudes. Yeah, you just want to have a

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Speaker 1: text connection with money and he um. He did some

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Speaker 1: new money drops for us, and when it came time

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Speaker 1: to record the one you just heard, that was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a sneeze and then uh, we both decided

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Speaker 1: sounds more like somebody came up from behind and hit

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Speaker 1: him over the head with like a bow leng pin. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like either that or like an angry um. You know,

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Speaker 1: COVID infested bird flew into his face with its sharp beak.

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Speaker 1: Something went wrong there. There's a pool of blood basically,

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Speaker 1: is the only thing that you can can kind of

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Speaker 1: get out of that. I like and um unmasked attraction

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Speaker 1: to a man with nine streams of income, Like it's

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Speaker 1: it's like Matt money Smith never has money coming from

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Speaker 1: less than nine or ten places at the same time. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's true. He's also called himself He's named

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Speaker 1: himself off a currency, so it would be ridiculous if

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Speaker 1: he were struggling financially, that would be absurd. I am

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Speaker 1: not too proud to say there are certain figures in

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Speaker 1: this industry that I I guess you could say look

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Speaker 1: up to or just have an enormous amount of respect

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Speaker 1: for to the point where I feel a little uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: around the money. Money passes that test, and when I

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Speaker 1: did the Power Ranking show with them this year, I

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Speaker 1: was legitimately intimidated. Uh got to know each other. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why, he's just Money is one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: For me, I think everybody has them, or maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: you don't, but I do. There's certain people. Check was

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Speaker 1: the same thing for me when when we first started

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Speaker 1: and when I started to get him knowing better, I

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Speaker 1: was legitimately kind of um intimidated because I thought he

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Speaker 1: was so smart and funny and cool. Money is the

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Speaker 1: same way. I'm with you. That's me and do Orlando

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Speaker 1: led Better, which I mentioned. I can't stop. I can't

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Speaker 1: help but mention him, because you know, you grow up

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Speaker 1: in this industry UM, and I came in late in life,

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Speaker 1: and it's just great to see someone still pumping out

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Speaker 1: the copy. And you know, I I think about it daily.

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Speaker 1: The thing with Money and Check like they're clearly talented,

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Speaker 1: think I'm just like, Oh, those are good friends I

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Speaker 1: in and start texting these people and braggingy Lakisha about it.

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Speaker 1: That's how you operate. I'm not sure that one really

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Speaker 1: impressed Lakisha. That was a common man answer by West, like,

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Speaker 1: that's why he's the top of the rankings. Frankly answers

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Speaker 1: case you're wondering what I'm doing, I'm over here texting

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Speaker 1: Matt money Smith. What are you doing on the other

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Speaker 1: She was on the other side of the couch. Um,

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Speaker 1: we are gonna do a deep dive. Yesterday we talked

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Speaker 1: about the gray beards, which you could check that out

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Speaker 1: at NFL dot com. And a quick correction, Yes, I

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Speaker 1: I messed up. I messed up by not bringing it up.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that none of you said, hey, Dan,

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Speaker 1: part that you're emphasizing right now, you're not emphasizing it

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Speaker 1: It starts with me. It starts with me. We don't know,

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Speaker 1: you're a little all the rules that you're right, I

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Speaker 1: did not think of them. Don't do that. See now

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Speaker 1: you're passing the buck because you know the rules they

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Speaker 1: to not really the league day by day to take

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Speaker 1: of accountability, But it starts with me. Apparently it ends

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Speaker 1: Check it out NFL dot com slash slash hands us Greg,

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Speaker 1: you have a piece coming up this week where you're

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Speaker 1: going to essentially assign ultimate value to various quarterbacks. And

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Speaker 1: just so everyone knows, for this segment, if Gregg makes

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Speaker 1: any mistake, do not let him know because ultimately it

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Speaker 1: is only on Greg. Now, I'm sure I will take

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Speaker 1: a rough draft and it won't be too deep a dive, Dan,

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Speaker 1: all right, UM, I'll start the list, like I said,

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Speaker 1: on that someone with his numbers in terms of yards

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Speaker 1: pertempt and some of these other numbers, having the two

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Speaker 1: first years that he have, has almost never become a

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Speaker 1: top shelf quarterback. I think that's why I think that

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Speaker 1: I will not argue that he should be higher. I

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Speaker 1: I could see the other side that he should be lower.

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Speaker 1: But I think, and you guys talk about this all

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Speaker 1: the time, UM, that you shouldn't face things just off stats,

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Speaker 1: and you should you should trust you eyes, West says,

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Speaker 1: And I know that's what I think. It's a good

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Speaker 1: spot for him. I think with Donald that if you

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Speaker 1: are watching these Jets games and you're watching the organization

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Speaker 1: that he's essentially trapped with. UM. He has been hurt

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Speaker 1: a lot by the surroundings, by the skill to level

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Speaker 1: which is bad, the coaching which has been shaky, bad

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Speaker 1: luck with the mono, and I think if you watch

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Speaker 1: the games, there are moments where he is flashed where

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Speaker 1: you wonder if he was drafted into a better situation,

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Speaker 1: let's say he went to Kansas City, whether he is

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Speaker 1: a guy that's seen as like a young star. I

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Speaker 1: really I mean, and I'm saying that you could say, oh, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you're being a homer. Of what I'm saying is is

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Speaker 1: that I don't know if Donald's ever gonna be any

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Speaker 1: good with the Jets, But I do believe that if

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Speaker 1: he was in a better situation, that he could be

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Speaker 1: a real pro Bowl level guy. UM. But because of

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Speaker 1: the way the first two years have gone. He's very murky.

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Speaker 1: It makes total sense to me that he would kind

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Speaker 1: of be uh in this type of realm for you

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Speaker 1: on this list. I think people are a little too

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Speaker 1: down on Baker's season, Like, for instance, Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 1: had him eighteen. He had him right behind Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: right ahead of Philip Rivers last year. That doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: that crazy to me. On a game to make game basis,

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Speaker 1: I think like people are so bad, so wrapped up

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Speaker 1: in the expectations and in the attention that he was

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Speaker 1: so he was like not great, but I think he was.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me that they had him ten fifteen

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Speaker 1: spots ahead of Josh Allen, that they had him ten

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Speaker 1: spots ahead of I don't think he was better than

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen last year. I think he was worse than

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and PFF can take a hike well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but from another angle, in terms of building a team,

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Speaker 1: why would you not take Josh Allen, corn Old Baker,

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Speaker 1: any of the younger guys over um. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how long you're projecting this team to exist.

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Speaker 1: But although although I could sell tickets with Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: and Drew Brees. You know, it's it's it's of Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers cult situation. It's a band aid to get you

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Speaker 1: to the next draft or maybe the draft after that.

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Speaker 1: I would go younger guy with potential, which would be Donald.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Dan is a good point that

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Speaker 1: you're stuck watching these young guys on these these dis organized,

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Speaker 1: you know, troubled franchises that yes, they should separate and

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Speaker 1: show the skill set no matter what the surrounding is.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, like, if we're gonna kill Baker for

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Speaker 1: last year and look at completely different from his rookie season,

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Speaker 1: then we're not looking at the entire picture. And the

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Speaker 1: same goes for Donald. I mean, young quarterbacks are not

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Speaker 1: mavericks to do it all on their own, and Baker

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Speaker 1: that proved that last year. And you're if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're in a total chaos, chaotic soup for sixteen games,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna show. Hey, Greg, you got about four minutes, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I know I checked that. That's fine. We've gotten through

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Speaker 1: the big stuff. The rest of the list, just for

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Speaker 1: the listeners. Daniel Jones at twenty one Philip Rivers, who

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Speaker 1: I do think I should move down I I agree

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Speaker 1: with you, guys Um at twenty two, Gardner Minshew at three,

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Speaker 1: Josh Alan Teddy's at twenty five, Andy Dalton who is

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Speaker 1: under contract, Haskins, Falls, Fitzpatrick, Brissette, Tyrod. Then it gets ugly.

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Speaker 1: And why is Drew Lock at thirty two? I don't

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Speaker 1: Drew Lock at thirty two? Why is Drew Lock at

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Speaker 1: thirty two and you've got demonstrated backups ahead of him

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Speaker 1: he is? I don't know because if here here's part

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Speaker 1: of the reason why, Like when you ask how far

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Speaker 1: am I going into the future, Like if I'm in

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Speaker 1: this team, if I'm putting Drew Lock out there and

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Speaker 1: he stinks and you're four and twelve, it's like with

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Speaker 1: this team, I think like you could be fired in

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Speaker 1: that situation, Like I don't know if he's ever gonna

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Speaker 1: be as good as football astrated mediocrity over an unknown

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Speaker 1: Like to me, I'm philosophically opposed that in every way

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Speaker 1: the clock over Tyrod Taylor in a second for me,

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Speaker 1: just based on why not you know sure if the if,

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Speaker 1: but if the if, the unknown is something you've kind

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Speaker 1: of you haven't seen anything from, and you have no

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Speaker 1: reason to think because at least there's a percentage chance

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Speaker 1: he's gonna lead me to the playoffs, Whereas I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tyrod Taylor above. That's fair.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Lock should be like a little bit higher uh

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Speaker 1: than those guys, but real precises like who you would

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Speaker 1: pick if any anywhere like Locked. This is why I

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Speaker 1: wanted to do the show with you guys, so you

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Speaker 1: would go crazy on it. I'm not trying to like

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Speaker 1: provoke react. It really is what I would do. Like

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is making five million dollars this year, I

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Speaker 1: guess I look at it in the case too much.

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Speaker 1: If Drew locks, If Drew Lock has Tyrod Taylor's career,

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Speaker 1: that will be beating the odds. The odds are that

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have at Yeah, who cares about that? Like,

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Speaker 1: all I want is does does he have any chance

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Speaker 1: of being the answer? And Tyrod Taylor has none? I

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Speaker 1: guess for now, my my thought of Drew Lock is

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Speaker 1: he has no better chance than an average second round pick,

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Speaker 1: maybe a worse than average chance. And to me, he's

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Speaker 1: more pretty tallenged than than a typical second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Like you can see, the traits are there, he has

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Speaker 1: the talent. He didn't embarrass himself in his first few

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Speaker 1: games as a starter, Like, I just don't get that

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Speaker 1: if you have any chance whatsoever of being the answer,

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Speaker 1: because all that matters is being the answer. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you want to keep the only thing that matters at

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Speaker 1: quarterback Nick Foles. That list, he was the answer to

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl and like the greatest game of

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Speaker 1: his life. So I'm say there are other values round talent.

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Speaker 1: He had the month of his life that's gone. I

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Speaker 1: should you should combine on a list and then crab

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Speaker 1: off the list that Dan and I have concocted. Um

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Speaker 1: currently during the show together, Um Greg, circling back to

545
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Speaker 1: the beginning of the conversation. I know the time level

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Speaker 1: time wise, but just looking according to spot Rack, Um,

547
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady never was more than twenty million on the

548
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Speaker 1: books for the Patriots. In fact, until this year, I

549
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Speaker 1: should say he was twenty three million UH in total cash.

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Speaker 1: He was always under twenty and to find it since

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Speaker 1: the Collectic Bargaining Agreement UH went into effect in the Chace,

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Speaker 1: at one point he had the highest cap figure in

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Speaker 1: the league two thousand ten. But that was a long

554
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Speaker 1: time ago. Um, since two thousand twelve and the c

555
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Speaker 1: b A went into effect, only one quarterback is won

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Speaker 1: and on a second contract Eli Manning against your Pats

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Speaker 1: now West, you you could say that doesn't matter. At

558
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Speaker 1: what point does that become a number that does matter

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Speaker 1: to you? Because if it's if it's happened, hasn't happened

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Speaker 1: since the c b A and it's been eight years,

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Speaker 1: how long before that becomes a trend? And to that point,

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Speaker 1: if this continues to be a situation where teams pay

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks a massive amount of money when they become stars

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Speaker 1: and they never win. Could have become a situation the

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Speaker 1: way like the Steelers handle wide receivers, where they just

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Speaker 1: they hold on to a quarterback and then they let

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Speaker 1: him go because they see that the model doesn't work

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Speaker 1: to give that guy a huge percentage of the cap.

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Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy, but we need to see

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Speaker 1: some evidence that this works under the current um salary

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Speaker 1: cap in this league. You're asking me the question, My

572
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Speaker 1: answer is it's never going to matter to me because

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Speaker 1: the status flawed. It's just terribly flawed. So Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: is leading for three quarters last year, he can have

575
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Speaker 1: a bad game and if his defense holds against Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: the stat is all of a sudden out the window.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make it doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the stat. It doesn't matter to me

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Speaker 1: at all, and it never will matter to me. I

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Speaker 1: look more at like but then like, to that point,

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Speaker 1: just one thing was to that point what people say,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people would be like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana never lost the Super Bowl and that's why

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Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback. And it's like, oh yeah, but

585
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Speaker 1: if this player didn't drop an interception, that's what sports is.

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Speaker 1: That stuff happens all the time and right, but you

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Speaker 1: don't want general managers making decisions off of what fans

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Speaker 1: are talking about. It's not what fans are talking about.

589
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: It's just the reality that it's not happening. And I

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Speaker 1: would happen. I would base it more on the wreck

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Speaker 1: like which teams are making the playoffs, which teams are

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Speaker 1: getting buys, which teams are getting twelve wins? And I

593
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Speaker 1: would have to go do a deep dive. But to me,

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Speaker 1: tons and tons of the high percentage of those teams

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Speaker 1: are led by quarterbacks on their second third contracts. And

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Speaker 1: the fact that they haven't like gotten over the finish

597
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Speaker 1: line is to me just kind of like a fluke.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but Dan, let's throw it to the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Let's say Donald has a great thirty years. Well just know,

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Speaker 1: but like, are you, like, are you going to cling

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Speaker 1: to this? We went so far over nugget because you

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Speaker 1: don't want Sam Donald suddenly paid a second contract because

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Speaker 1: like history tells us in theory that they those quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: aren't winning super Bowl so far. History tells us no,

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Speaker 1: of course I want Donald on my team. History tells

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Speaker 1: us that it's really difficult to win a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: when you have to give that much of out of

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Speaker 1: your cap to a star quarterback. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Why is it so much harder to I don't know.

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Speaker 1: To me, if you've made it to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: that's as impressive as winning a super Bowl. Like you've

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Speaker 1: made it with an expensive quarterback, that means you're good

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Speaker 1: the well okay, but but listen. The only reason I

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Speaker 1: bring it up is because for this purpose is of

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Speaker 1: this exercise and defining a value to a quarterback, I

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Speaker 1: believe that the quarterback on the rookie contract is insanely

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Speaker 1: valuable in this league based on what we've seen since

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Speaker 1: the CBA came in. And that's it. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying I would not have to. It's a short term

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Speaker 1: luxury that you want that you kind of walk into

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Speaker 1: beyond your control if that rookie hits. But then you're

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Speaker 1: going to have to deal with the same pressures that

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Speaker 1: everyone else with a successful quarterback deals with. And then

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Speaker 1: and then the teams with a younger quarterback have the

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Speaker 1: advantage in the league, which I I maybe there's some

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Speaker 1: type of fix in the future if this does become

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Speaker 1: a long term thing where you get a little capitally

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Speaker 1: for keeping your in house guy. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: it's been something that I've seen as a potential issue

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Speaker 1: in the league because you always want the quarterback to

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Speaker 1: stay with the team almost always. But if it's leading

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Speaker 1: to a competitive disadvantage ultimately, then there's something wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's overrated also because your

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Speaker 1: next two guys usually take up more space on the

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Speaker 1: cap than your quarterback anyways, so it's like it's your

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Speaker 1: your top defensive end, let's say, in your top offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: like those guys add up to more than a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's about like how you build a team.

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Speaker 1: lot of emphasis on the right. Put lots number one

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Speaker 1: and watch this article. Well, go off into the skies.

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Speaker 1: That's how you do it, all right? When is it

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Speaker 1: going up? Greg? I think it got pushed back. It

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be. It's now Friday, so you know,

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Speaker 1: we really tease this out come the end of the week.

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Speaker 1: Check it out NFL dot com slash Rosenthal and see

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Speaker 1: if any of this conversation has led to changes and

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