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Speaker 2: Ellie? How you I'm good? Brother?

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Speaker 1: We got somebody assist in that chair and knows how

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Speaker 1: You guys said, we think we think we had like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, he was more here popped in Fat Joe.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had him on a pod since what maybe,

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Speaker 2: At me that Joe went on his uh. Joe went

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Speaker 4: Like right that Joe's evolution is just beyond yeah, blessing.

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Speaker 4: Let's get into a man and man. Yeah, first time

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Speaker 4: I met Mayor really and really chopped it.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, man, you know, super cool Man sneaking collection

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Speaker 2: Nobody can mess with him. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He's trying to He's trying to battle beat out of

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Speaker 1: Man. Again, our guys came through it for us at

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, let's get into a man's fat Joe and

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Good man?

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Speaker 2: Yo? We got some family here. Man, sir.

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Speaker 3: They came through for us. The clutch went it down.

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Speaker 2: like yo, that boys come from just talking to him

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Speaker 3: Well, Hi, I'm fat Joe sneak in Sario.

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Speaker 1: Joe and May of course you're coming through dripped out

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Speaker 3: Per usual with us.

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Speaker 3: I see a sneaker that most people don't have.

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Speaker 2: And the Kicks, the Kicks gentleman.

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Speaker 3: New York release. Wow, strictly New York.

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Speaker 2: I really made that for Miami, but they were like, y'all,

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Speaker 2: let's let's just kill New York with it, because you

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Speaker 3: You know, it's my home base, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Martin Luther King to me was the

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Speaker 2: They killed them, and then years later they gave him

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Speaker 3: They killed him. Now he got schools.

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Speaker 2: So this terrorist Squad sneaker was actually illegal. The guy

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Speaker 2: this is designing Terry swand sneakers from me. He worked

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Speaker 2: Force one that he got fucking fired for general release.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Somebody said, Yo, you know the guy who designed that

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's amazing, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, Okay, Donald Trump. Now I'm the king of morals,

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Speaker 2: principles said my whole life. I wish no one death.

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Speaker 2: But I'm scared. These guys just got hit with the

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Speaker 2: really don't wish that on them. Seventy seven years old,

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Speaker 2: he's going to jail. And the crazy day.

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Speaker 3: Is Donald Trump is going to fucking jail.

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Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani, the creator of the Rico Lord, thirty years later, is.

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Speaker 2: The fucking Rico. He don't put a thousand, ten thousand

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Speaker 2: Earth scares me. I just want to die with no

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Speaker 2: this world is fucking crazy.

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Speaker 1: Well, you want somebody positives, beautiful news. You know you're

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Speaker 1: you're a man who's had a lot of legendary hip

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Speaker 4: Fat Joe you had a fifty.

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Speaker 1: Cent brought you out of Barclays, then Yankee Stadium.

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Speaker 2: He took the shirt off again.

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Speaker 1: They history, Yeah, you gotta paint the picture with us

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Speaker 1: those forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: It was like for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it was you were there too, man, Right,

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Speaker 3: It's more like a one.

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Speaker 2: I think it was more like a four day adrenaline

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Speaker 2: that in years, maybe since Big Pun went double platinum

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Speaker 2: and we was gonna do the Puerto Rican Parade. I

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Speaker 2: know you can't sleep. I'm thinking, Yo, we're gon, we're

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Speaker 2: it ain't been since that. Now it's hip hop's fiftieth birthday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the clip I put

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Speaker 2: up with grand Master Flash. Who's grand Master Flash? But

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Speaker 2: let me let me tell you why I'm explaining this right,

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Speaker 2: because lately I tell such incredible, incredible stories. They starting

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Speaker 2: to call me Joey Capp Like, I'm not Joey Krack.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're a young dude, or you're not

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Speaker 2: from New York, or you don't really know the whole

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Speaker 2: real fact joe history, you're from Memphis, Tennessee, not just

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Speaker 2: Willing wherever. It sounds like he's full of shit. This

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Speaker 2: guy's biggie and too far, oh fucking way, right, So.

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Speaker 3: I'm Joey Capp.

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Speaker 2: Now they all start a cap wow, right, and then

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Speaker 2: Home of Twitter they call me an appropriator, they call

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Speaker 2: me a white guy that I've jumped into. No, it's

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Speaker 2: fucking incredible. No, I'm from the birthplace of him. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And so the other day we at Yankee Stadium and

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Speaker 2: grandm Ha's the flash came in. You know, my brother

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Speaker 2: was this crep boy you don't know, carrying the records,

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Speaker 2: carrying the records while he DJ. You know, I knew

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Speaker 2: him since I was five years old, a little baby,

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Speaker 2: Mellie mel.

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Speaker 3: All these guys are from my block. Shot Rock is

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy, is the weirdest thing is that I

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Speaker 2: And then you know I used to tell people biz

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Speaker 2: Monkey used to work in my recipes.

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Speaker 3: Biz Monkey used to come to my store once a week.

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Speaker 2: And work the cast registers and watching the bis Monkey documentary,

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Speaker 2: they showed a video of him and the castis.

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Speaker 3: These stories are unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Flash was like, Yo, your babysitters, little Terry, your little

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Speaker 2: kiky they invented. Let me hear you say, O, he's

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Speaker 2: on my babysitters grim Master. Flash, there's footage of it, right,

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Speaker 2: And you know I'll say I got bone Thugs and

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Speaker 2: Biggie to do the bone and Biggie and everybody caught me.

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Speaker 2: Joey Capp and then crazy Boner come on and say no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: sure Joe did it.

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Speaker 3: He made it happen, And so did you say?

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Speaker 1: For a flash, he always cursed you out on text, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's what's the issue?

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Speaker 2: If you think he's an asshole? You know this guy,

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Speaker 2: he's a professional asshole. But no, no, if he loves you,

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Speaker 2: he'll die for you man to give you anything. He's

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Speaker 2: one of my few friends that give me anything in

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Speaker 2: the world. He's with me every day. He's an asshole professionally, right,

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Speaker 2: but we love him, right, Yes, Grandmaster Flash got that

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Speaker 2: he come up in here. You better act like the

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Speaker 2: guard came in here. Don't don't be settled with him.

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Speaker 2: He know he started this, he know he invented this ship.

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Speaker 2: So when he comes you got stopped like your Grandmaster

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Speaker 2: Flash and to humble yourself, you know, put your head

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Speaker 2: down and just be like, Okay, don't know what the

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Speaker 2: fuck he's gonna say, But he told me was my

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Speaker 2: DJ's fake that eating some typical man and ship because

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Speaker 2: we did, grand We did a good Morning America. And

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Speaker 2: to think I bigged him up on good ones. It's

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Speaker 2: the fiftieth fan of Versary. They pick us to perform,

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Speaker 2: y'all big up grand Master the Flash, the legend of all.

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Speaker 2: He still cursed me out. The DJ's a fake DJ.

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Speaker 2: These young guys with these computers. Man, get somebody with

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Speaker 2: some turns. You're embarrassing us. You're from the Bronx. Thank you, Flash,

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Happy birthday, grand Master Flash. What do you

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Speaker 2: want me to do it? Grand Master Flash, you can't

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Speaker 2: argue with these people.

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Speaker 3: You cannot argue with these people.

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Speaker 2: But you know hip hop's fiftyeth Yes, Now let me

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Speaker 2: describe it to you. What happened right four days you want?

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Speaker 2: You said, I'm gonna tell you what really happened.

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Speaker 3: I was supposed to come up with Buster.

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Speaker 2: Buster was calling me, but I was shooting some episode

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Speaker 2: like a panel, and I got there late and fifty

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Speaker 2: was already on and they was like, yo, fifth said

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Speaker 2: touch it. So it was like God's doing. We blew

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Speaker 2: that ship down, Legendary. It was pandemonium, And I want

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Speaker 2: to thank the g unit Loayu fans forgiving me respect

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Speaker 2: and love and that way, because you know, we warred

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Speaker 2: with each other and to come out in his fan

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Speaker 2: base and for them to go crazy was a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: We've been family and love forever. But it was an amazing,

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Speaker 2: amazing feeling I was that set them up. The next morning,

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Speaker 2: were on Good Morning America watching me and my sister

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Speaker 2: boss that were killing that shit Legendary be up and

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Speaker 2: that just set up Yankee Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Now Yankee Stadium. I prepared for that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm a warlord like people don't understand

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Speaker 2: that street hip hop. I'm a warlord like versus wasn't

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Speaker 2: war Versus was me and my brother, and I couldn't

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Speaker 2: disres it.

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Speaker 3: You know, if I ain't like Joau, I have brung

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Speaker 3: fifty cent hour on versus.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm a warlord, like I know what

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Speaker 2: to do, Like you know, I come up. I'm a descendant,

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Speaker 2: a disciple of terrorists. One, I'm a disciple. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm a warlord. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So we and Yankee Stadium fiftieth verse.

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Speaker 2: I know it's all love, but you can't come in

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Speaker 2: the Bronx and Fat Joe's little fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: You're not leaving saying all them Bronx boys was.

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Speaker 2: Here, but you drove there from the projects, from my apartment,

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Speaker 2: from my old apartment. I drove there from the projects.

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Speaker 2: Thank god they loved me so much. I might have

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Speaker 2: had three four million in jury on drop top going

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Speaker 2: through the Bronx stop by the KR in Vietnam, My

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Speaker 2: man Miami trap pistol P came out, dapt them pulled

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Speaker 2: up to the stadium.

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Speaker 3: The camera comes on, Fat Joe's there live.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile the intro's going crazy legs and my cousin, that's

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Speaker 2: actually my cousin and he's number two in the world.

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Speaker 2: He's going to the Olympics for b born gravity. But

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Speaker 2: actually my cousin Crazy, he's from Queen's Rich. Wow, here's

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Speaker 2: some his family, you know the DNA. His mother's from

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Speaker 2: queens Ridge Jakes. So they go in they do their thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, Crazy, how you said your set off Breakers

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Speaker 2: got fiftieth year of hip hop. Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: how I arrived. When I arrived, it was so much traffic, right,

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Speaker 2: it was like one hour. I'm looking at Yankee Stadium,

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Speaker 2: It's one hour, one block, one hour. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I had to get out and sneak in the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Now they have the normal exit, have four hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty guys talking about they were fat joke from the Bronx.

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Speaker 3: They're calling me. Now if I I had.

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Speaker 2: To convince a man to let me in Yankee Stadium,

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Speaker 2: not there. I said, bro, they're gonna bryot. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: bum rush one million percent if I go through the

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Speaker 2: normal way. All these bronze dudes are going to riot.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna force their way in, like fat joking. So

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Speaker 2: they let me sneak in. But no, what was so beautiful, right,

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Speaker 2: was all the rappers like nas jay Z. Everybody was

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Speaker 2: texting each other chuck d. They was texting me happy

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Speaker 2: fifty year of happy birth It was like New Year's Eve,

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Speaker 2: like two thousands, like when we thought why two K.

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Speaker 3: White two K didn't finish us?

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Speaker 2: Motherfuckers was texting motherfucker's like why two K? Like your

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Speaker 2: happy birthday?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 2: I can't rest like it was some shit. I never

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Speaker 2: I have never felt this since I was a little

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Speaker 2: kid around hip hop. I pull up to the stadium.

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Speaker 2: You had young brothers and sisters with their own little

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Speaker 2: speaker freestyling, Yo, I'm nice this. I'm like Aaron Judge,

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Speaker 2: I'm this. Ten steps later you have bands playing shook

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Speaker 2: ones like the Roots, Boom boom. You look in the street,

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Speaker 2: the cops are breakdancing. No, no, they was there break

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Speaker 2: dance unifour motherfuckers was on Yankee Stadium property.

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Speaker 3: Barbara Cwing on Yankee Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium property. You might as well be in the

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Speaker 2: White House, right, that's Yankee Stadium property. Motherfuckers with Barbie

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Speaker 2: Curing in the stadium, people walking by you looking like

438
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 2: run DMC with the rope chain. The shit it was unreal.

439
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 2: The vibe was too unreal. And I had to do

440
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: what I had to do, and so I came from

441
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 2: the projects and what fat Joe used to do. Anybody

442
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 2: who's from my projects, they know I was the fat

443
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican kid that was topless. I was always all summer,

444
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 2: I had chained on, no shirt on, never cared about

445
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 2: being fat. I was fat Joey. And so when I

446
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 2: went in that stadium, I first walked in with that.

447
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: I was Poppy Shampoo. So I walked in halfway topless.

448
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 3: I had the what's my man or?

449
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 2: Jeff Hammon made me a special custom made jacket for

450
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 2: me and tone Sunshine, so I was Poppy Shampoo. Originally.

451
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 2: Couple of chests heads out while I'm there, I said, man,

452
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 2: let me let my ass. Let me let me show

453
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: them all my ass. Joey Crack coming out the night,

454
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 2: So I take my jacket off. Last time I did

455
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: that was twenty years ago with Shatzi, and then we

456
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: was on stage again. I said, you know what a Shatia,

457
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm taking it off. She was like, this guy's going

458
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: but I just wanted them to know you're you're in

459
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: my house, like I love everybody here, I love everything.

460
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 2: Joe was going to the best set.

461
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: You're in my house. You're in my house.

462
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: There's no way that's like me going to LA fiftieth

463
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 2: anniversary Snoop Dogg not ripping me down, you know what

464
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean. So I so my whole show was My

465
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: whole show was structured around Warlord.

466
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't beef, wasn't nothing.

467
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 2: But it was like and they only gave me fifteen minutes,

468
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: so it had to be like a medley.

469
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 3: It had to be like like.

470
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: If you notice, we was like doing the the Jamaican

471
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: sound clashing, so all my songs was clashing into songs

472
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 2: like we was just clashing. We wasn't talking. We wasn't

473
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: because we had to get it off and and you

474
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: know I and so the whole thing is like it

475
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: was like a watch. It's like movable parts. So I

476
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 2: had to get cared. If I couldn't get in car rest,

477
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: couldn't get it, Peter Guns, couldn't get it in the shanty,

478
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: couldn't get in. The traffic was insane. I think it

479
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: was a little bit delayed because people couldn't get there.

480
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 2: It was too much traffic. I've never seen that. And

481
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: so everybody gets in us like I'm so stressed out

482
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 2: because I knew what had to be done. I stood

483
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: in the room, I wasn't even letting my brothers and

484
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: and and everybody was like, YO, tell them such and such.

485
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: At the door, We're like and I just kepttrating too

486
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 2: much because I knew I had to deliver. I knew

487
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: what I was capable of doing. I knew what I

488
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: was gonna do. And then once we bring out a

489
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: shanty looking beautiful ram, you know, once we go into that,

490
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: Peter guns does if it was the good see that coming.

491
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: So when that comes on, and then we go right

492
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: and if it wasn't for le Bron and then it

493
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: goes like I told my DJ, cut us off, like

494
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: violate us.

495
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for this South broth you we on

496
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: our ship.

497
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Now now it broke my heart.

498
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 3: Joe broke my heart. Man k r s that song.

499
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: Man.

500
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: We're queens, guys, So this day your queens guys.

501
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 2: He stops hanging out with empty sharing backstage, hung out.

502
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: I kissed rock Sane Chantey, not Craig g I said,

503
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: what's up to him? And I kissed Rocks and Chantey

504
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 2: before I walked on stage.

505
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: That's my word. I hung out with Shannon all day.

506
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: That's just hip hop.

507
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: No, it was no vibe.

508
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: But then you did when you did DJ red Alerts.

509
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: It's like, ah, it's funny.

510
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 5: We talk about this all the time. You queens guys

511
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 5: will never.

512
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: Get bronze guys. He told me.

513
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

514
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: He told me he said he was going for me

515
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: in versus and when I walked out to the bridges

516
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: over instrumentally he said fuck it. He said I better lose.

517
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: He was like, fuck you, you gotta lose. His nephew

518
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: got mad. I mean, nephew never goes against me for nothing. Really,

519
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: he said, man, fuck you the queens.

520
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 3: I know. He said, you lost queens.

521
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: He walked out to Jyru with the bridges over. He

522
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: was like, we got cueisers off. You got PSD from that.

523
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 2: Shan was nice.

524
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: But when the bridges Over came out, this is the

525
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: instant knockout.

526
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 5: It was just like instant damn one hit.

527
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: He kiss. I remember the first time hearing it. It

528
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: was just over. I think, yeah, yeah, it was freezing outside.

529
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: I had the Walking on the World about it in

530
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: my book, but Jose, I'm outside. There's no way I

531
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: thought that up. So you gotta understand the Juice Crew

532
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: was like Nas jay Z Snooped all.

533
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 3: They were like Nas jay Z Snooper. They were the

534
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: first man, not police, right.

535
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: They were like anybody you ever thought with somebody drake

536
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: on the same fucking team.

537
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: So there was no way you thought this little kid

538
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: from the Bronx care of Us One was gonna do

539
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 3: it to him.

540
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: So and I had to be honest with you.

541
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: I had never heard you making music in my life before.

542
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: That was right. So when that shit came on, he

543
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: was regularly was like brand new Care of Us One.

544
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: I was outside with a walkman on. It was below

545
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: zero or some shit. I was in my projects and

546
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: that she said, boom boom boom and doom boom boom

547
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: boom boom, And I'm like, and he got the bridges over,

548
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: the bridges over, put him up by the bridge is over, Hey, bro,

549
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: you're coming down there? That yo. I started running around

550
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: my whole project yard out a shout out to the

551
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: whole Juice crew. You know, I asked Big Daddy came

552
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: one day and I never knew he said, yo. Him

553
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: and Kareus was cool. We're friends. They were brothers, like

554
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: care Reuss helped to move out his apartment. He said,

555
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: I couldn't go against Chris. He was literally my brother.

556
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes, I was like, oh.

557
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: It's funny when they did that versus They were in

558
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 5: the same dressing room in the back, just chilling. They

559
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 5: were sitting there laughing and I.

560
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: Try to ice grilled Cane and all that. He was like, yo, bro,

561
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: I know who you're here with.

562
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: Calm down, Calm down. We brothers, like, we don't need

563
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: that energy.

564
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 5: Joe was such a moment to watch them chilling. It

565
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 5: was so funny. I looked at Chris. I'm like, Christian,

566
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 5: I love you, just don't look in my direction when

567
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: symphony comes on, because that's to me, that's like I'm

568
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 5: Kane's my fact. Like I love Kinge and whenever I

569
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 5: hear the symphony, I go nuts on.

570
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 3: We love Kinge too, How can you not right? We

571
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: love king We love empty shann Bro I hung out

572
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: with It.

573
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 2: Was nice man people. Oh Man.

574
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: Shan was that Dawn by Law Dawn in my book.

575
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: I described that battle. But I picked up Shan legend like,

576
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, he's you know, living legend, hit maker.

577
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: You know he set that bitch off.

578
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: How proud are you of the book and the impact

579
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: it hadn't out?

580
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: You know what's so important is I just wanted to

581
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: be transparent. You know, I feel like we got an obligation.

582
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm happy that I was able to tell my story,

583
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, as transparent as possible, and

584
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, you know I can't lie to the people.

585
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 2: I got to tell them where I really came from,

586
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: what I really went through, so they could learn from

587
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: my mistakes or maybe inspire somebody who's going through a

588
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: tough time, maybe with depression, maybe with you know, so

589
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: it was so important I got it off. Shout out

590
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: shah Heim read Will helped me write that. Without him

591
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be possible. But you know, we got a

592
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: series based on the book. But Kenya Barras and the

593
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: Terarero brothers, you know, the book, the book gonna teach

594
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people. They got that shit in public libraries.

595
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: They teaching kids in school off the book, and you know,

596
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: is is deep.

597
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jez. I just came back from Detroit

598
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: doing the Q and A.

599
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: You know for him now rating he got a book

600
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: called Adversity for sale, which is so crazy. It's so

601
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: similar to my book. You know, he smoked WE one

602
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: time they rushed him to the hospital. I smoke WE

603
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: one time they rushed me.

604
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: And I'm listening to them and I said, damn, well

605
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: we had the same life. That shit was crazy.

606
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: You know. I smoked WE one time and ran out

607
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: the crib butt naked. The girl gasked me to smoke

608
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: weed and know, like te we did the hospital please

609
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: like you know, and similar things. But it's you know,

610
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: hip hop is fifty yes, what does that mean? People

611
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: are grown hip hop fans. The white boys that loved

612
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: hip hop music growing up run d them see everybody

613
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: else Now they're executives and ceo And then you wonder

614
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: why you said, damn hip hop is on ESPN. Hip

615
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: hop was there. When you finally meet the CEO, they're like, bro,

616
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm fucking hip hop Like I grew up hip hop.

617
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: You'd be like, yo, what is Fat Joe doing on CNN?

618
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: By the way, the producer is hip hop? Like yo?

619
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: You know, so we're grown now. You know what I'm saying,

620
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: this is why Obama got elected because you know, hip

621
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: hop brought everybody together. You know what I'm saying it

622
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: wasn't like before that civil rights and everything was so separated,

623
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: but hip hop is just a magical tool that brings

624
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: everyone together.

625
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I was so happy and saving to see people wearing

626
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: run DMC t shirts waiting till one in the morning

627
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: when we wanted to see Running Sea and they stayed

628
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: for Run DMC. Nobody really left. It was like people

629
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: stayed in Like, first of all, I had so much stress.

630
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: Then I had to pull it off.

631
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: Nobody understands the fat Joe's fifty two fat motherfucker diving

632
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: up and down the stairs. Stayed trying to work out.

633
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: Then I gotta walk up to my family in the suite.

634
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: I was done, Like they should have They should have

635
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: gave me the wheelchair out of it.

636
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: I was gone done, and but I had to stay

637
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: for n DMC.

638
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: I have to stay for as I wanted to ask

639
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: you that story. You had total enough.

640
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: And I always tell people that, like how Sucker MCS

641
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: and me and be I talk about it, even be

642
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: not being younger, How Sucker MC has changed the game

643
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: of hip hop, like instantly.

644
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: One play meant the game was over.

645
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: One play. We had that in our lives.

646
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: We heard Eminem the first time we heard you know,

647
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: we had a moments nothing, but it changed the game.

648
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: Like the minute you hear this, you know, okay, we're

649
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 2: moving this way or you know we're out casting them,

650
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: Oh shit is moving this way? Like and hip hop,

651
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: they's the moments very much, so much more fewer now

652
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: than when we was growing up. But like we're saying,

653
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: hip hop was growing I'm in junior high school. Everybody

654
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: kept playing the Treacher Street coming, come On, come On,

655
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: come on, dax Shun, Like everybody had their routine of

656
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: that three girls that I wish I could pay now

657
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: because I didn't know who it was. They came on

658
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: now and they played sec seasons started they didn't, and

659
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: I watched everybody in the in the whole auditorium looking like,

660
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: oh it's over because the Bronx was running that ship

661
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: for like ten years. Ron and then Queen's just came

662
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: when DMC came with that sound, and it was like

663
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: it was almost like AI. The difference, the difference between that,

664
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: the difference between hip hop son first.

665
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: And not that ship was like a Martian came. It

666
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: was like, oh no, it's over.

667
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: What's crazy? Is right? At the concert at Yankee Stadium

668
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: Boom boom. It just turned me into a little kid

669
00:31:51,560 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: where I remember how all mythical, how it felt like

670
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: I was at a play Hamilton. It felt like, Yo,

671
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: this is run damn C. And they were yeah, but no.

672
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: When you heard it, you remember when you was a

673
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: kid and this ship was just too incredible. When you

674
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: was just like yo, and they're like, yeah, jam message

675
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: j Jam Jam Jam messy Jake run d Jam Message

676
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: and it was like, oh, ship, the gods are here,

677
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: and they looked incredible. See.

678
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: I seen the Run DMC show where d m C.

679
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I know he got somewhere his voice he didn't

680
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: sound so good and Run was crazy out of shape right,

681
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: not not in y shady.

682
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: He came with that motherfucking a game. They were well prepared.

683
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: Lauren Hill, I've been in shows with Lauren.

684
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: Was like, you know, look, no disrespect, no, no, no disrespect.

685
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, she's my favorite female rapper of all time.

686
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: I said, you can google that a million times. She

687
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: gotta know she's the best that ever did it right.

688
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: But I've been to some shows hers Anita Baker. You

689
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: know when you go to the show, you want to

690
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: sing the song but you know, they switch it up

691
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: to where you can't even fucking sing with it, but

692
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: the la lah like You're like, yo, where's that at

693
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 2: the song? I'm trying to fucking sing along?

694
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Not this night. She fucking was like, bang bang, she

695
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: ain't come to play.

696
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: You know what it was?

697
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: It was fifty a year, he thought, I thought it was.

698
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 5: She kept going, no, no, she kept going.

699
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody who did not participate in that

700
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: one event.

701
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: You know, guys like The Game who had legendary albums

702
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: for real.

703
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: It's so many artists that weren't there that I wish

704
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: they would have been there because their contributions to hip

705
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: hop was was too important, you know, And so I'm

706
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: just sorry that anybody who had another show, another obligation

707
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: wasn't invited, because so many people deserve to be on

708
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: that stage.

709
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: Right, looking back on it now, I mean with fifty

710
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: years in hip hop, but you also thirty years in

711
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: your career. Represent turned thirty earlier this year, and then

712
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: also we have Don Carter Gina turned twenty five five.

713
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: You know, I always wanted to know because Big Pun's

714
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Capital Punishment came out that year as well. Did you

715
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: feel the pressure coming off of a big Punt's success

716
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: going into your own album.

717
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: I can't say that to you because I never felt pressure.

718
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: So my thing, I legitly played number two for Pun

719
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: to grow right. So when I signed, when I met Punt,

720
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: I knew he was the best Latino. I knew that

721
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: Latinos needed him no matter what. I knew he was

722
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: better than everybody lyrically, because I'm a hip hop historian.

723
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: So I went from Cougi Rap and went to Nas

724
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: you know, went to j and when you know, this

725
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: guy was like did in the middle. I knew what

726
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: we had right, and so I said, let me focus

727
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: my energy on making him the biggest. He'll be the

728
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: anchor of Terror Squad. And then whatever falls from the

729
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: tree falls from the tree for me. And so you know,

730
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, I had to follow up with Don Carteragina

731
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: things that people don't get me. First of all, I'm

732
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: one of the most underrated rappers ever. I know. They

733
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: say that the fact I'm famous because I do everything else.

734
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: I do podcasts, I do I talk shit, I do movies,

735
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm I collect sneakers. I I'm famous because Fat Joe

736
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: ain't missing ship. You know, the other day, I went

737
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: to the rucker. You know, the sneaker is called the

738
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: blackout right, and for twenty years yesterday they threw up

739
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: the fucking numbers that lineup. You know, my wife didn't

740
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: even know shit about that basketball at that time. She

741
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: knows now and she's like, Jesus, Craig, you really you

742
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: had y'all Maine, y'all, Like boy, I didn't know you

743
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: might have took it like she was like.

744
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

745
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: She finally told me, yo, you might have fucking took it,

746
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: like I was like, yo, ma, And that we have

747
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: like Bibby in the in the cut, we had Startlemine

748
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: on the cut, zat Landolph in the cut, Our Harrington

749
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: in the cut, you know, Ai Straberry, Carmelo like we

750
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: it was dumb, but.

751
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: It didn't happen this twentieth Anniversarion.

752
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: You know, if that fly ain't come out and I

753
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: did this with you, they would have been calling me

754
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: Joey Cap when all the clips come. The motherfuckers think

755
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm Joey Ka. You know what I'm saying. It's just

756
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I was doing this type of thing. So

757
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: I go in the rucker and when I go in

758
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: there to see the young kids. It was the championship game,

759
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: and then we bringing the sneaker, the guy on the

760
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: MC go this is your park. This you own the park.

761
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: This is your championships. Nobody like fat like they but

762
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: I'm doing that. And in my head, I'm thinking, I said,

763
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: this is why niggas be hating on me. I said,

764
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: you can't even go to a game now without them

765
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: saying that Joey Cap won six championships that had this

766
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: and this and this, And I'm saying, this is why

767
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: we was doing too much out here.

768
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: We was really outside outside. I can't complain.

769
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: Look, I want to live till one hundred and five,

770
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: but God forbid y'alls outside outside. God was good to me,

771
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: you know. I was able to like really really uh

772
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: and and look we're still gone. We don't miss a beat.

773
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: We're still out here working. We're still out here doing

774
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: what we gotta do. Actually, were bigger than ever.

775
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: Were you happy with the success of Don Carter Gina

776
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: come up with Capital Punishment?

777
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: Though, yeah, I didn't care, Like my thing was h

778
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: see and Don Carter Gina, I was still like underground.

779
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: So you have the record with Puff that was a

780
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: big one that was a street record with Puff.

781
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: If Big Pun, if Biggie never comes out the fact

782
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: Joe never makes a hit because I was there when

783
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: Puff did all those hits with Biggie, and so when

784
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: I met Pun, we would have just kept the D

785
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: I T C with Pun Underground boom.

786
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: Back, you know what I'm saying.

787
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: But I.

788
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: All day and that's what Pun wanted to do. But

789
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh no, you're gonna be the Spanish

790
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: Biggie bro. We're gonna get to the bag and we're

791
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: actually gonna see a female fan in the crowd, because

792
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: before that we had motherfuckers spitting raises and army fatigue

793
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: and they ship. And so when Pun did it, but

794
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: I still thought I was gonna be mop. I still

795
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: don't call the Gina. If you really listen to it,

796
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: it's a it's a digging in the Crates Underground album.

797
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: It wasn't until Jose that Pun passed that I was like,

798
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: oh no, I like this money.

799
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 3: We gotta keep these hits and when come on, we

800
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: dugging and what's love?

801
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: Because you feel like that you really went for it,

802
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: I know whatever, I really went for Don Carter Gina,

803
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: I was just spitting.

804
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: Blow your back out this with that was shoddy talking.

805
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: Album.

806
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: I think, yes, stay on that album and so don

807
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: Carter Gina to me was still.

808
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: A borderline underground album is where I went for it,

809
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: you know, where I said, all right, I'm gonna be

810
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: a superman.

811
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so go back to the first album represent I

812
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: always wondered like coming off the street knowing you could.

813
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: Wrap, but like learning how to really make songs like

814
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: what I couldn't even wrap. I always knew how to

815
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: pick beats, always knew how to pick beats. There's a

816
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: lot of artists I won't say their name that they

817
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: that the you know when we say, oh, they could

818
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: have been much better, I truth truthfully know it's simply

819
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: because they didn't know how to pick beats. So they're

820
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: so dope to the beats. We like this, and so

821
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: I always tell everybody what well we're representing. I was

822
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: just wrapping my block. Two things was going on.

823
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: I was gonna let you know, I really I was

824
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: on that album, and I never seen the Spanish dude

825
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: do that.

826
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: So I knew Spanish kids all over America we're gonna

827
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: be like, holy shit, we finally got one as your

828
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: thorough with a half moon. Fifty dudes behind them guns

829
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: in the video gold Medallion's rolex. They ain't seeing motherfucker

830
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: like me a trapper on the screen her motherfucker. You

831
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: gotta float y'all. He wasn't playing.

832
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: Well. It just rapped.

833
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 5: You know.

834
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: People were mad at me a long time at the

835
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: Rucker because I said.

836
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: Never liked balls. So the hell it was just a bar.

837
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: It was like even Roy Jones was forced to lean back.

838
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: I love Roy Jones.

839
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: It was just a bar. It was just rap.

840
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 5: You know.

841
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: I just rapped, So it was a bar. It was

842
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: a low hanging fruit. I think since then, I've been

843
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: more careful about the bars. Roy Jones almost came and

844
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: fucked me up, you know what I'm saying. So I

845
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: had to calm down. You know what I'm saying. I

846
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: ain't want that year though, crrackt. You know, you know

847
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: we showed you Yankee Stadium. You know we got we

848
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: got it. You know what I'm saying. We got hits,

849
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: we got underground. You know, I forget all my shit.

850
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Like my favorite song I ever did was called a

851
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: Definition of a Dawn, you know, and then also bring

852
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: it on from the terror squad out like I got

853
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: like street classic Lan do a s obs right now

854
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: and fuck him up. You know what I'm saying. But

855
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: you know, so very important, like so fat joke. So

856
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: we all know the historical story of when LL COOLJ

857
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: got so big. Fiftieth anniversary. First time we saw l

858
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: LL he said box my radio like he was the

859
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: hardest pause, the hardest motherfucker we ever seen. Right then

860
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: he gets so big it's almost like Calit's album suffering

861
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: for success. Then you know, the infamous story came out

862
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: the one twenty fifth and they boot him now because

863
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: he's whack, just because he was so successful, he was

864
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: winning so much. So I've been in places with that

865
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: Joe showed up. So I'm technically you know, I'm from

866
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: the bottom, bottom bottom, bottom bottom. I went back to

867
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: my projects last week. I can't. I licked my floor

868
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: in my house when I went. I cannot believe I

869
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: grew up here. God bless him. I'm telling you the truth.

870
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: That's square foot this like this, I could touch that.

871
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe now that I'm it's incredible, But God

872
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: bless everybody in false projects. But he's try to get

873
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: about right, and so I'm from the bottom bottom bottom,

874
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: bottom right, and so success it brings a little bit

875
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: of hey, you know, some people wish they could have

876
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: did that, or they hallucinate they should have have it,

877
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: they did and this and that. So I've been in

878
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: shows where I go and it's the whole underground audience

879
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: and they're looking at me like they want to do

880
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: that LLL with me, like they want to boot and

881
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: I come on there with.

882
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: Who know who the fuck do you think you're talking to?

883
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: Then I go into MOTHERFUCKINGO Joe.

884
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: Then I go into John Blaze, I go on to

885
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: my lifestyle, go by that, and they're like, you can

886
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: in front on me, bro can't. I got a whole

887
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: fucking I got a hold, and they feel stupid. Somebody

888
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: really hates me. This underground, this mad that I'm commercially successful.

889
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: There in they're like, and then the endemy comes on.

890
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: Enough's enough fed around shot and they're like and they

891
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: man's just banging on them like, Yo, it's crack, grad,

892
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: it's crack Peop.

893
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: Don't realize that like a lot of the that jay

894
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Z was underground, NAS was underground, Fat Joe was underground,

895
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: Like we saw he was underground.

896
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: He was underground, you know, like you were.

897
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: Underground them seeds and you guys became superstars.

898
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: That was for the natural transition.

899
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: You know, we ain't just go. It's almost like we

900
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: forced Like you said, Don Cartageing, I forced myself to

901
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: still be underground. After the Big Punch success, I could

902
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: have easily started making Botequa Moana, and I was just like, nah,

903
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm still going.

904
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: Mop you know what I'm saying. We're still gonna kill

905
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: your moms.

906
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: You know what we're gonna do.

907
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: You know, fuck that, how about some hardcourt you know

908
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

909
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: But we still are, you know.

910
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: And then once Pun died, you know, I knew the

911
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: difference between the money. You know, flow Joe.

912
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: I was getting five hundred dollars a show I was

913
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: doing every Saturday. That was doing three shows New York, Connecticut,

914
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: the Bronx, then DC Vegia the same. You know, that

915
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: was how I was making the dollar. You know what

916
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying, We wasn't making no real money. And so

917
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: you know, once Pun died it and we started seeing

918
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: fifty thousand this show wold shit like that, I was like, oh,

919
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: I gotta make it hit. Right.

920
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: But even in addition to having pun in your corn,

921
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: you always had mail on your side. You guys grew

922
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: up together, right high.

923
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 5: School, went to high school. I met Joe in ninth grade.

924
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: Ninth grade we was.

925
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 5: In music class together and homeroom.

926
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: We had an interesting home room.

927
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, we definitely we had a wild home mom.

928
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: Well, what's so interesting about it was just.

929
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 5: Probably eighty every gangster and lunatic in the world just

930
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 5: happened to be in the same future drug.

931
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: Lord home everybody, everybody holding court in jail as we

932
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: speak as people just coming home now with ninth grade.

933
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: Literally people coming home now. Mayor hip hop times Run

934
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: Deep two used to own the club out here in

935
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: New York.

936
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 5: City, right, I was. I had a piece of Club

937
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 5: Essos in nineteen ninety six. Ye club Essos. Yeah, I

938
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 5: had Maria Davis man one days when when she did

939
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 5: the stop the membory, they was Who's smoking weed? And

940
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 5: hear the biggie line? I mean now the jay Z

941
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 5: thing from fourth was the fourth fourth What song is that?

942
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 5: Twenty two two? Yeah, twenty two twos and Maria Davis thing.

943
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: I had it with twenty twenty two twos do add

944
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 3: up to four four fourth.

945
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 5: I got that, you know, we had we had, we

946
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 5: had Maria Davis Man Wednesdays, I seen one twelve performer

947
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 5: s OS first. I was probably one of the last

948
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: ones that have Kim and Foxy Brown on stage together,

949
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: you know, with Queen Latifa. You know what I'm saying,

950
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 5: Like you know, it was amazing. It was amazing, amazing, amazing,

951
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: amazing place I've seen it all. Like every every artist

952
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: broke through is.

953
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: Like the most interesting man in the hire shop. He

954
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: owned like there's nothing he can't do. Just today he

955
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: did an interview for some sneakers and I'd be forgetting

956
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: my brother's ship.

957
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 3: He was busting out joints to that.

958
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: I said, Damn, this motherfucker got it.

959
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 5: I did an interview today with NBC for sneakers, call

960
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 5: it into the fifty years of hip Hop. So I

961
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 5: brought out like Wu Tang Dunks and Drakes Drake's Eleven's.

962
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 5: I brought out the Terror Squad air Force, you know,

963
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 5: jay Z justin Timberlake, legends of summer, like shoes that

964
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 5: haven't been seen in one hundred years and shoes obtainable.

965
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 5: Brought him out the day and made a little movie

966
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 5: for NBC today.

967
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: It was dope.

968
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: So did you did you book the talent that comes

969
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 3: to your club?

970
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 5: At No, No, it was all promot. It was all promoted.

971
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 5: I even had Salabatello from the Fever used to do

972
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 5: my Saturday nights like I had. I had a hip

973
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 5: hop Wednesday, I had a house music Sunday Saturday I had.

974
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 5: I had everything left over from the tunnel on Sundays,

975
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 5: like whatever was left over there couldn't get into the

976
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 5: tunnel with ways and essoles on a Sunday. I mean

977
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 5: it was. It was a great, great run, right.

978
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: I beat up every I beat up every promoter, every bouncer, bouncer, bouncers.

979
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 2: We was giving them though business. I got a funny

980
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: story when I met my wife, right when we met

981
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: my wife, I met in Miami, right and she came back.

982
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: She's really from Queens. So we went out the first

983
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: time ever. Well for I had no money. You know,

984
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: I was just struggling about to come out right a

985
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: little bit before a flow joke. And it's so, you know,

986
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: friends already looked at her, like this beautiful girl, what

987
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: she's doing with this fat motherfucker? She ain't got no

988
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: money either.

989
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: He's popped, like right, so they had a problem with me.

990
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: Right, Well, you know they only wrapped to all the

991
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: big drug dealers in Queens. You know, they had little

992
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: diamonds and shit. So the one day they meet me,

993
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: we go to a club in Manhattan, right, so they like,

994
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: we going to club. So I'm with all girlfriends, is

995
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: just be. We pull up to the club and they tell,

996
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: they tell me, and they tell they said, oh, he can't.

997
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: Come in here.

998
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: Right with the first date I ever had. Well friends,

999
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: and they was like, these guys tore down the whole

1000
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: fucking club. Like these guys broke every musical equipment this

1001
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 2: in the here, like just last week, you're not coming

1002
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: in here.

1003
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: She kept the real with me and left with me.

1004
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: Her friends was so pissed at but uh, yeah, you

1005
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: know we you know, I have a zero tolerance, a zero.

1006
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: I will not let a human being disrespect me without.

1007
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: Handling it. That's just been my own entire life. So

1008
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, somebody in human form that

1009
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: has disrespected me, they caught it every single time, and

1010
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 2: they know it. And so somebody's hallucinating line telling you stories.

1011
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: They're liars. Because we give it. Yeah, we gave it

1012
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: to everybody in the planet Earth. You know what I'm saying.

1013
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, we have I have zero

1014
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: zero zero is like a dictative ship, like a tyrant,

1015
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: Like I'm going to handle it right on. You're not

1016
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: getting away with it, right you know?

1017
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 3: So, man, how did you even get the name?

1018
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: Man?

1019
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 3: Is it did Joe to get that to you?

1020
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 6: No?

1021
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: No, that was just from that was just from he's

1022
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: the mayor, the mayor.

1023
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: I was over.

1024
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 5: So I grew up in Michaelangelo Houses. My grandmother lived

1025
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 5: in Patterson Projects, my aunt lived in Melrose. All these

1026
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 5: places hated each other. Then I'll go to Hallam and

1027
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: hang out on und forty of on hun thirty nine.

1028
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 5: Shoot my man Reggie White, and everybody was like, yo,

1029
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 5: we can't stand each other with mayors on this block,

1030
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 5: mayor's on that block, man's with this one, man's with

1031
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 5: that one, still like that and right, And my man

1032
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 5: Reggie White was like from hallm was like, yo, you're

1033
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 5: like the mayor. And that was like at like sixteen

1034
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 5: years old, and that stuck with me, all right. It

1035
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: just my grandmother called me I got that. She called

1036
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 5: the mayor in Spanish, come here, like you know before

1037
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 5: she passed it just stuck with everybody, Who are you?

1038
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: Who's the mayor or the president when it comes to

1039
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: these sneakers, because again, you know.

1040
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: You for that. We got it.

1041
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying it now. Joey got it. I said that.

1042
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: Don't say that.

1043
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: He's on the Mount Rushmore. Clark Can't is definitely on

1044
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: the Mount Rushmore. I'm squeezing in there in the side

1045
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: on the right corner.

1046
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 5: This guy, he's he's Joey cap right now, who's the

1047
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: guy there?

1048
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: Is you?

1049
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 3: Clark Can't. I'm in the corner. Who's this guy?

1050
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: And we know who it is?

1051
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 5: I was give it to Greg Street, Greg Street, I

1052
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: was give it to you. It's the most diverse collection

1053
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: I've ever seen in my life.

1054
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: Perfect pretty good. No, that's a real good, pretty good.

1055
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm with that.

1056
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 5: You know, you know how you open up your pantry

1057
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 5: and this he got a big house and Mary Otta Georgia,

1058
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 5: and you open up your pantry, you expect to see

1059
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 5: a lot of cupcakes and candies and sugar. Greg Street

1060
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 5: got sneakers and sneakers. I'm not lying. I swear you

1061
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 5: got a wife, right yeah, you got Yeah, he's he's

1062
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 5: with you. He just it just doesn't exist. The guy

1063
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 5: Greg is weird. Greg has a pull in his backyard

1064
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: for thirty years. It's never no water in it, Like

1065
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 5: in the summertime he's no water. He doesn't know, he

1066
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 5: doesn't turn the pull. He's crazy. You go into his pantry.

1067
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 5: I went into it. We was gonna do an interview

1068
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 5: one time, we was gonna do a show together. Never

1069
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 5: panned out. I went to greg Streets house and he

1070
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 5: has a bedroom with every single promo T shirt ever made.

1071
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 5: I'm talking represent I'm talking he's got millions in it.

1072
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 5: I'm talking U GK riding dirty t shirts. I'm talking

1073
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 5: exhibit first album that I gave out at club s

1074
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 5: os he had those T shirts. Now, Greg's I've never seen.

1075
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: Documentary on Biz Marquee the other night, how was it?

1076
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: And it's really great. He is really sad, you know Biz.

1077
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: You know, I really love Biz Marky.

1078
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: It was. It hurt me a lot, you know, to

1079
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: see what he went through his final year. You know

1080
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: how much I never knew that he grew up with Kim.

1081
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: I never knew, uh, you know, they was in there

1082
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: that I bugged me out, and I was like, yo,

1083
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: because Rock Kim's talking like the mayor, like you know.

1084
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: He's all in the documentary.

1085
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: Like you know, I remember when this first bang on

1086
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: the table, when Junior high and I started freestyling. I'm like, Yo,

1087
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: these guys go up crazy. I never knew that Ferris

1088
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: would be that he came. So I cornered bizmarcky in

1089
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 2: real life, it's not in the documentary. And I asked

1090
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 2: him why, you know, I asked him why he embraced me,

1091
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: because before I ever was on Ever had a deal,

1092
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: he used to pull up in my projects, hang out

1093
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: with me and this he said, I knew it. I said,

1094
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: what you mean? He said, Joe, I knew you was

1095
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: going to be the next blow. I knew you was

1096
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: going to be a star. He's he said, that's why

1097
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: I used to pull up on you. I knew it,

1098
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: Like I would have bet anything that you was gonna,

1099
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, be a star. And I was like, Wow,

1100
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: he knew that. I ain't know it.

1101
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: Wow, you know recipes bizmarcking man.

1102
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: Wow, And so you know, you know they you know,

1103
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: it's beautiful to see that hip hop was so celebrated

1104
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: for the fiftieth birthday. We got to keep it going.

1105
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: Fifty first birthday. A lot of people ate that haven't

1106
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: been eating in the loan had these opportunities this year

1107
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: that they had, Thank god, you know what I mean.

1108
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: And so it's so important that we continue to make

1109
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: sure they get checked. It's so important that they keep

1110
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: eating and getting their roses because they created an art

1111
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: form that has created millions of jobs and trillions of dollars.

1112
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: Think about that. It's a fucking natural resource. You know,

1113
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: it's it's a natural resource. And bro, they created some ship.

1114
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 2: Bro that that's like, you know, imagine the world without

1115
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: hip hop. You know, we wouldn't have a job, right right,

1116
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: dad Broke.

1117
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 3: You wouldn't be at the White House. Now I'm going

1118
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: next week, get back to the white hose.

1119
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: I'm my luck.

1120
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: Call on me up Man's fifty if hip hop? But

1121
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 3: she didn't call me.

1122
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: A right hand woman called me and said, Joe, we're

1123
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 2: having an event for hip hop fifty would you like

1124
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: to come? And very rare, does my wife and my

1125
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: daughter ever like to hang out with me? And they

1126
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: said we're going, So they're in.

1127
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: Wasn't like going there the first time, as you know

1128
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 3: a guy from the Bronx.

1129
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: Do you know Joey Krack? Y'all y'all still don't know

1130
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: Joey cra y'all think you'll read the book Joey Krack,

1131
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: the type of ship he had to do.

1132
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: You ever seen this movie? What's that movie they did

1133
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 3: in India?

1134
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: The movie they didn't no man tractable?

1135
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 5: What extraction extraction?

1136
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: You ever seen extraction extraction one and extraction one? Extraction one? Right,

1137
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: it's about to me. The whole movie is about. Yeah,

1138
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: he's a he's going to get a a kid that

1139
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: was kidding at but you know who Joe Krack was

1140
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: in that movie, the Lily Wendyan kid that wanted to

1141
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: be down with the fucking with the drug lord so

1142
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: bad he wanted them to cut his finger.

1143
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: He kept coming at this killer like he just I

1144
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: gotta impress him. I gotta let him know hone. You

1145
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: know I'm not gonna be broke my whole life?

1146
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: That was me.

1147
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: You know, Joe krat was like, bro I don't know

1148
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: what the fuck I wouldn't have done to get on now.

1149
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: You know, when I'm fourteen years old, every drug kingpin

1150
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: in Bronx and Harlem. They knew who Joey krat was

1151
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: is fourteen. Imagine now I wouldn't know who's fourteen. They

1152
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: knew this nigga was coming.

1153
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: Boy George, they knew it.

1154
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: They knew he was coming. They was like, Yo, he

1155
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 2: is coming. This kid is coming, like he's not gonna

1156
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 2: stop to you know. Thank God for hip hop, you know.

1157
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: And then then with all that, I'm in the White

1158
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 2: House to be kidding, but I'm representing patients. So power

1159
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: to the patients. We passed the lord here in New

1160
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 2: York City for the first time ever in New York

1161
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: City history, where the hospital's gotta be transparent and tell

1162
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: you what you gotta pay. So it's all a gim me.

1163
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: You two know what you're getting paid per episode? Right,

1164
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: I know what I'm paying for that big Mac downstairs.

1165
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: We all know what the hell we pay. Right, you

1166
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 2: go to the hospital, they don't tell you what you're paying.

1167
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: So they go it's not even black or white. It's

1168
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: like it's a mr.

1169
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 3: Today.

1170
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: We got ten schedule one is paying one patient. He

1171
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: may be white. He's paying one thousand dollars. Come the

1172
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: next patients paying three thousand. The next patient is paying

1173
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: five hundred, The next patient is paying ten thousand. They

1174
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: charge you whatever the fuck they want. And so people

1175
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: are over one hundred million Americans of bankrupt you to

1176
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: health health that house can't pay them bills. And when

1177
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 2: you broke, what happened you damn sure ain't keeping keeping

1178
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: the family. You ain't keeping the woman when they break you,

1179
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: you can't afford your family. You ever been in a

1180
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: relationship where you ain't had the money? Currently been in

1181
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: a relationship, yo, I used to have a girl back

1182
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: in my projestys like, you better go stick up that

1183
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: fucking supermarket. You better go get that fucking money, tough love.

1184
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: I need to rebop thirty four ninety nine. I need

1185
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: them fifty four levens. They came out of purple boy.

1186
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: You better get that fucking shotgun. And I was so

1187
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: broke I used to have to borrow the shotgun from

1188
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: my man black An rest the peace. I had to

1189
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: borrow a landway on the fucking gun.

1190
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: Yo, give me the gun, let me hold it.

1191
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 2: I'll give it back.

1192
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 3: I have to pay they So you change laws here, correct?

1193
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1194
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 3: We did, and we going to continue last year.

1195
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: You know our Muslim African brothers and sisters in the Bronx.

1196
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: They had the fire that killed the seventeen people. We

1197
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: raised over two million. Yep. You know that's what we're

1198
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: here for. You know what I'm saying. These people in

1199
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: the Bronx, man, they let me live. They could have

1200
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 2: killed me easily, you know what I mean.

1201
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: They let me live.

1202
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: So I have a silent contract with them that whenever

1203
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: something goes wrong, Joe Krat's gonna be there.

1204
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 5: You know.

1205
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: And so that's that's how we live our life, you

1206
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

1207
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: And we're proud of it. Absolutely. When we get you

1208
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: back in that studio and what's what's this voodoo thing

1209
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: you are?

1210
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: Voodoo record that shave, that shave, you know a little.

1211
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: Voice and you know, you know, God there I let

1212
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: my voice to people sometimes, you know, you know, I

1213
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: gotta work, you know, hell, I gotta work. It's a

1214
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 2: fly song, voodoo You into that type of you know,

1215
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: it's nice, you know what I'm saying. She's a good person.

1216
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: Uh And so right now, in order for me to

1217
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: make music with anybody is pretty much I gotta love you,

1218
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like five mics, I got

1219
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: a song with five mics.

1220
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: I did a song with a die Pesto thrilling Ems.

1221
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, I got sanctioned, chanking, I got sanction sanctioned

1222
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: because I don't really work like that no more with music,

1223
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So you know, I knew

1224
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: Nems wanted me to get on his album. You know,

1225
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: I went on BT and called him the new fat Joke,

1226
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: So he want me on his album. But then I

1227
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: was playing, and then I start getting these texas. You know,

1228
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: he signed a Roseenberg the Eminem You know, I owe

1229
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: him too many favorites. When that text comes come through,

1230
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: I'm like say no more, no.

1231
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: More, you know, you know, fiftieth anniversary.

1232
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: Oh, Melly Mail says some ship about Eminem, right, and

1233
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something here, which I do hope

1234
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: nobody takes the wrong way. But I see him in

1235
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: the nick game like a day later, and Melly Mill's

1236
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: my o G like he's the guy who I look

1237
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: up to our worship, and I.

1238
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 6: Said, down your white go after the white boy man.

1239
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 6: I said, fiftieth fan aniversary, this is the time to

1240
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 6: run it up when you're trying to block your blessings,

1241
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 6: like you know, because because I learned the hallway.

1242
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: You know, I never complained and I never even said

1243
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: it publicly. Well, you know, I have beef for fifty

1244
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: cent and jay Z, the two most two most fucking

1245
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: powerful dudes in the world, And so Reebok was gonna

1246
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: give me a sneaker there, and they, oh, you have

1247
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: to beef with jay Z and fifty Jordan's too, right,

1248
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: Jordan too. We can't give you the deal all that.

1249
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: You know, you know how much money I was ship

1250
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: was like an embargo. I'm not saying they purposely was

1251
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: doing it God like you know, mayor not doing what

1252
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: it deal with you if you got to be for

1253
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: fat Joe. So that's the whole point. I try to

1254
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: teach him for my mistake. I said, Yo, bro, you

1255
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: don't want to dish him, I know, but what I'm

1256
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: saying is, don't block it.

1257
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: Bless you smart.

1258
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: You literally said something to me, Yeah, because you know.

1259
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 3: Pull hit me up and say, Yo, we really need

1260
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: you on that Namu, I said, he signed, He said, yeah,

1261
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 3: I said, no problem, I'll be in the studio tonight.

1262
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: How do you want it hardcore?

1263
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: Dan?

1264
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: What do you want to party? Tell him? I came

1265
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: through you know, I owe Eminem so many favors, like

1266
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 2: I have used my relationship with this guy to oblivion.

1267
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: You hear me, No, I swear to God. One of

1268
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: that Lean Back remix he was on the Lord above

1269
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: the man. He gave me the sneakers before everybody in

1270
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: the world. That man do anything. You know, he's a beauty.

1271
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 2: You know.

1272
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: He trying to talk me out of retirement. I know

1273
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna say, Joey capped.

1274
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:07,479
Speaker 2: It was in my mother's house, shirt off, topless, my phone,

1275
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: rings and number I one note.

1276
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 3: Thank god I picked it up, Zeminem.

1277
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: He starts trying to convince me for a whole hour,

1278
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: don't leave us. He almost was depressed that I was

1279
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,439
Speaker 2: leaving our era.

1280
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 3: Leave us.

1281
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: You still got he said. I purposely start listening to

1282
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: all your music.

1283
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 3: To see if maybe you should retire.

1284
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: No way, got it? Stay in there.

1285
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, you know he's a god.

1286
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: Eminem's a god. I don't give a fuck who what

1287
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: you think?

1288
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 3: He's a god? You know what I'm saying.

1289
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: Somebody shifted the whole algorithms when he came next. I

1290
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: remember me and Big Pun. Big Pun was the first

1291
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 2: LATO to sell two million records. Solo we nominated for

1292
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: a Grammy, and the night before we go to the Grammys,

1293
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: we are waiting online in l A and Tower Records

1294
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: for the Fucking Eminem album Online Online nominated for the

1295
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: nominated for Grammy. Me and Big pun online to get

1296
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: that motherfucking Eminem album.

1297
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: Wow, you tell me he ain't a rap God, you

1298
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying.

1299
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, you know, I respect everybody

1300
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 2: who put their contributions to this game. Milk is chilling.

1301
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: You can't go milk chilling is chilling? What more can

1302
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: I say? All Right, let's do Let's play this game.

1303
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: Because say a song that you will always forgether, you

1304
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: will always remember a song lyrics to something that you

1305
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: will always.

1306
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 3: Busters used this last game, you wasn't.

1307
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 2: There the same thing. That wasn't.

1308
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 3: A line that kind of like you remember where you were,

1309
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: Like if it came on right now, you would have

1310
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: to say, oh, you said the other one for me to.

1311
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: He said, I'm like skin, I live in Queens, not

1312
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: because you're here, but lyricly, it's funny that you're here though,

1313
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: because my daughter, she's ten years old, she loves tongue twisters.

1314
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: So I let her play twins, you know, and she

1315
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: loves that part, and she's she gets she's getting the

1316
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: hang of it, but she loves that part.

1317
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: So that shout out.

1318
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: Busy Signal Bigsie Signal is a Jamaican artist, king of

1319
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: tongue twisters, fucking phenomenon. When you see him rap, you

1320
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: Like one day I heard him freestyle, I was like

1321
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: dumbed doubt. Shout out the common shout out. They had

1322
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: a guy out there named Juice. They used to free

1323
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: style for Chicago. Chicago has some mean artists. Shout out

1324
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: the whole movement over there in l a far side.

1325
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: I got five on almost beat him up. One of

1326
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: the guys.

1327
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 3: Your mouth, one of them, the light skinned one.

1328
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: He kept staring at my wife man, and I had

1329
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: to tell him, like, yo, bro, you want to get

1330
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: beat up or something? What's going on here? Man? Fuck

1331
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: wrong with you? Man? You had to do with other

1332
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: fucking this other West Coast. It's a tough time for

1333
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: you with the West Coast. You know, I'm the only

1334
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: trap but that physically got it on with the West Coast,

1335
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 2: the only East Coast rapper who we don't talk about

1336
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: it because you know it ain't cool, but I got

1337
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: it on. That's what we had.

1338
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: Fact when we had a Snoop Dogg on a couple

1339
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: of years ago, when they had a summer with Farrakahns,

1340
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: I was this. He said that it was quiet and

1341
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: the fact Joe raised up and said, we fucking loved you.

1342
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: How can you do this?

1343
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: Done the fact and he was like, everyone was like,

1344
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, because we hip hop.

1345
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1346
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck where are you from.

1347
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: I fuck with the goodie mob, I fuck with out casts,

1348
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: fuck with Luke, I fuck. Hip hop is a fucking religion.

1349
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: It's a culture, and so people play divide and conquer,

1350
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: people play we don't really love each other. We fucking

1351
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: love each other. I was crying that Prodigy's funeral, like,

1352
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: I was all embarrassed that I was crying in front

1353
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 2: of the whole hip hop game. You know, when I

1354
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: walked in proudly these funeral, they had a band plane

1355
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: shook ones and so if hip hop is a pyramid, right,

1356
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: we lost the fucking brick with him. And I realized

1357
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: that at the funeral, I was like and that Dune,

1358
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 2: I said, wow, we ain't lose nothing like this in

1359
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 2: a while and shout out to Nate Dogg, shout out

1360
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: the Coolio, shout out to Heavy D.

1361
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 3: There's no Fat Joe. There's no Heavy Davy D credit

1362
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 3: Heavy D.

1363
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: There's no Fat Joe. If there's no Heavy D. To

1364
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: this day, when I think I'm flying, I see pictures

1365
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: of Heavy D thirty years ago.

1366
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: In the water.

1367
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: Same shit. No man had that. The overweight lovers in

1368
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: the house, the house, Oh you know what I mean,

1369
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: Fat people feel like dancing? What was flying? Yet I

1370
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: never I never forget the time I seen him in

1371
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: the picture with me a long hold in her hand.

1372
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: Fat dudes came up. Fat boys.

1373
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: Every single block party, every jam that I ever want

1374
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: you in the Bronx started with fat fat fat boy

1375
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: boy boy boys. That's how they started. It was always

1376
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 2: the first record, and you heard the ricochet off the walls.

1377
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 3: Fat fat, fat boy boy boy boys.

1378
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: Now I don't care what you was doing, playing baseball,

1379
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: tag football, whatever, you just go over there. And so, uh,

1380
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, just everybody who paved the way. But really

1381
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: that movement over there too, because I really started with

1382
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: she keeps on and started with us. The man. I

1383
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: wish I was a little bit tall, wish I was

1384
01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: a ball, wish I was any girl. Yo, I was

1385
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: with them Classic ninety two, ninety three. You know, we

1386
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: was all trying to come up absolutely you know, so

1387
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: hip hop fifty. If anybody who didn't get they just do,

1388
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: just know we love you and we understand that we

1389
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 2: respect your contributions to the game, and we just gonna

1390
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 2: keep hip hop alive. You know, it makes me think

1391
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: of because I think so long he's been on the podcast.

1392
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, last time he was on the podcast, were remmy

1393
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: right before All the Way Up really came out. Remember

1394
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: beat I had saw you do it a snippet of

1395
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: it a show, and beat I was like, you fat,

1396
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: you'll got this record that's not that you could be

1397
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: smashed a smash and you took it off if you

1398
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: took it, juke it offline.

1399
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:38,879
Speaker 2: He took it off YouTube.

1400
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: And then you put the record out and we said,

1401
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: I think the day Flex was gonna play it, that's

1402
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: when you were sitting with it.

1403
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 2: The only fear took off that we hadn't had a

1404
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: hit in a wild And it's true they stalled. All

1405
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 2: the Way Up should have automatically being number one, But

1406
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: some DJs you know, this ship is a real uh.

1407
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 3: Monkey see monkey do game.

1408
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: Political not just political.

1409
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: It's like, are you gonna go in in the on

1410
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: this trip?

1411
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: It sounds like a hit, but we're playing frickety Dickey Dickey,

1412
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1413
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 3: And they're a little old.

1414
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 2: Well fact, Joe is REMI was only like thirty four whatever,

1415
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: thirty th Still it was.

1416
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 3: It was a smash. It was no different than a

1417
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 3: lean Back.

1418
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: But you had some people that were waiting for the

1419
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 2: cold sign to let it go, go go, you know,

1420
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: lean Back came out. They told me a story. Jeezy

1421
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: just told me a story, he said, Yo, I was,

1422
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: I knew the story, but he said. I was in

1423
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: can Coon when lean Back came out.

1424
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 3: The whole B M F.

1425
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: And DJ S and S played lean Back for four

1426
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 2: hours straight. No other song, he said, no other song,

1427
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: he said, it was just lean Back, lean Back, lean Back.

1428
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: He said.

1429
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: People kept paying them to play it. It was that day. Now.

1430
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 3: The mutual experience to that was I was in Miami

1431
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 3: and they wouldn't stop playing it back to back to

1432
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: back to back. It was a Memorial weekend.

1433
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: They just kept playing and we used to drop all

1434
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 2: our records Memorial Weekend because all the DJs is out,

1435
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: they can pay off the barbecues whatever. So so all

1436
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 2: the way Up should have been the same thing. Well, Frip,

1437
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 2: it was that, you know what I'm saying, But because

1438
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: I was a little older, I ain't have a hit

1439
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: in like five years. It was like, let me see

1440
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 2: what you do.

1441
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: Let me see what you do, Let me see what

1442
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 3: you do. And then eventually you know, to charge man,

1443
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 3: We're still all the way.

1444
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: Up, man, but after real you fearly have two anthems

1445
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: that are part of the history that it's undeniable.

1446
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: Drake facetimed me three times trying to get on all

1447
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 2: the Way Up three times middle of the night. Send

1448
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,480
Speaker 2: me the instrumental, Send me the instrumental, Send me the instrumental.

1449
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 3: I wish I would have got Drake on it.

1450
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: But the fact of all the history of me and

1451
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: jay Z, I was like, you gotta be just me

1452
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 2: and jay Z, I said, because anybody who really knows

1453
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: you know, I've been doing this for hip hop and

1454
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: my whole life. I gave my life to hip hop

1455
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 2: for real, for me. So I was like, anybody who

1456
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: truly understands this is the moment. It ain't just gonna

1457
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: be a posse cut and it ain't gonna be you know.

1458
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: And this is the last time Drake ever asked me

1459
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: to do it all. But nah, man, no gotta forgive me.

1460
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn man, please do me a friendsbee. But yeah,

1461
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: it's true. All the way up was that big that

1462
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: we had the best, the biggest, you know, fifty cent

1463
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: was everybody you could fucking name who's a monster was

1464
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: hitting us up, like yo, send the pro tools. We

1465
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 2: were just like like, I was like, yo, this history,

1466
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because I personally, my whole life,

1467
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: never thought I would make a song with jay Z,

1468
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1469
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 3: So the fact we had that, it was right time.

1470
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: I said, fuck that, let's get the game something they

1471
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 3: never thought they would get.

1472
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: What was y'all laughing at at the Beyonce show Man

1473
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: some beautiful photos right there?

1474
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: You know, Fat Joe talk so much shit.

1475
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't know where I was at with that.

1476
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: But you also joke about how much you how much

1477
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:25,799
Speaker 1: you could have done back then.

1478
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: And I lost maybe one hundred million, not fucking with

1479
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: jay Z because you know, you know, just being stubborn.

1480
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: How about I'll tell you what we was laughing about.

1481
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: The man was telling me.

1482
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: That he wished we would have been brothers since day

1483
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: one and we would have been cool with each other

1484
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: since day one.

1485
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 3: And then he told me about a mutual friend.

1486
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: They used to always try to tell him, Yo, Joe's

1487
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,560
Speaker 2: the coolest guy in the world, this and that, and

1488
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, meanwhile, I'm thinking the friend he's telling

1489
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 2: it's an asshole. And then we started laughing about it.

1490
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: I said, the whole time, I thought it was a

1491
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: fuck man, you know, And then we started laughing, like, meanwhile,

1492
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,560
Speaker 2: he was a good dude, telling them, Yo, Joe's a

1493
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: good dude man like you would.

1494
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 3: Love that Joe. They used to tell me the same

1495
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 3: thing about fifty cent. They used to tell me.

1496
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: The same thing, very very in between us and there,

1497
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: we had a couple of people in there that was like, YO,

1498
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: telling me to say, you will love them.

1499
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, I love it. They tell fifty you

1500
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 3: will love them, Joe, crap, you will love them?

1501
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: Na. Fuck.

1502
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 3: You know, we stubborn, you know, New York's real stubborn man.

1503
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: But life's been good with Rock Nation on. Life is

1504
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 2: amazing for me. Shut out desiret Perez. You know, I

1505
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: don't know where I would be without her, you know

1506
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, uh, you know family, I love them,

1507
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I'm honored to be

1508
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: uh family with them. You know what I'm saying to me.

1509
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: It ain't even about man, I'll never get off rock Nation. Wow.

1510
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: Like it's like, you know, we family. You know what

1511
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's what it is. And so it's just honor.

1512
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: You know what I mean to be around. Smart people,

1513
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 2: good people, people not trying to fuck you. People want

1514
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 2: to see you do great, people want to see you grow.

1515
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: You know, you know how this business is. You know,

1516
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: I just met him a.

1517
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 3: Little bit too late. You know what I'm saying, not

1518
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: saying I'm not up. I'm up all the way. I'm

1519
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 3: all the way.

1520
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm up. Don't get it fucked up. I'm up, boy

1521
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: in every state. Trust me, I'm good at every state.

1522
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 3: Ship.

1523
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we ain't playing we blessed man. God is great, man.

1524
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: I want to give all the glory to God. God

1525
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: is great. I want to get a glory for beat

1526
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: out for bringing you here.

1527
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: Man, last minute, man, everybody else you can't get fat

1528
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: Joe on this short notice like this just be dot care.

1529
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: He's a trouble maker on Instagram, keep him off fit. No, no,

1530
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: it's a terrible man. What No, No, he's evil, borderline

1531
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: evil on Instagram. But I go on my lives, I'm

1532
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: talking about somebody. He be like, he's I'm saying it

1533
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: for you.

1534
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, you.

1535
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:11,560
Speaker 2: Know, I'm easily I'm easily manipulated. I catch myself like

1536
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: starting the disc. I'm like, no, no, no, do stay au.

1537
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 3: Be that. I'm not fucking with you right now.

1538
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: No trash got him out of here, just saying this.

1539
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: The girl say read or something.

1540
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: I was like, we're not gonna say, we're not gonna

1541
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: say any names, but you know, I'm just gonna say

1542
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: for you, crack, that's.

1543
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: All sexy wrap my girl ski you.

1544
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: You go.

1545
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 3: We got to encourage it. We gotta encourage the youth.

1546
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 3: That's what it is. She said, my pussy pain, my

1547
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 3: movie hold around. You know, my daughter, I've said what.

1548
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: Swearing God I said, I said what I don't know said,

1549
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't play that ship like you could get away

1550
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: with it. I've never told my my daughter no, I've

1551
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: never not given h like she's first Prince of bel Air,

1552
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: like she came with that ship minny ping, my dear.

1553
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: I said, whoa, well, we are not having that shite.

1554
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: No, no, oh, that's hip hop. No, not for you,

1555
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: not for you. And I made it a conscious effort

1556
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: growing up to not censor my kids. I let him

1557
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 2: hear the curses since they was six years old, eight

1558
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 2: years old. My son's my daughter, like I couldn't be

1559
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: a hypocrite, you know, he had to be able to

1560
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: listen to whether they could, she could listen to Sexy Red.

1561
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: Just don't tell your father my this is this and

1562
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 3: my booty host.

1563
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no that we're not doing that. No, we're

1564
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: not going theory for nothing. You know what I'm saying.

1565
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: I will fucking wrap you and aluminum for you right now.

1566
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1567
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 1: What would you like to what would you like to

1568
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: see in the future hip hop?

1569
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 2: Yo? Man? I want.

1570
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 3: I want less violence.

1571
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 2: I want everybody to think equity, think ownership, make more

1572
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: money than us, make us happy, make us proud, make

1573
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: moves new moves.

1574
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 3: Unity in hip hop.

1575
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 2: It's very important to us because when I look at

1576
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 2: a young brother or young sister that's successful, really successful

1577
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: with hip hop. I see one hundred jobs. I see

1578
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: one hundred families eating Thanksgiving because of the kid, and

1579
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 2: so that's what I want for them. More bosses, you know,

1580
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 2: more bosses, more takeover Hollywood. There's nothing you can't do.

1581
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: You know, anything's possible. And that's what hip hop has

1582
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 2: taught me. That hip hop is possible. You know, anything

1583
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 2: is possible, any dream if you fight for it, you know,

1584
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: and the stars aligned, you could do whatever you want.

1585
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: How about you man?

1586
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 5: Definitely less violence. I want artists that are considered older

1587
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 5: to keep making music because older fans, older fans grow.

1588
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 5: If you didn't see the demographic and Yankee Stadium, which

1589
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 5: was fifteen to sixty, because that's what was in there,

1590
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 5: that's what was in there. I want artists to keep

1591
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 5: making music even though they're labeled this because you still

1592
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 5: have fans. We still enjoy the music, and along with

1593
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 5: enjoying everything young, we still enjoy everything the next level up.

1594
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 2: Also, be very careful out there, all the artists out there,

1595
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: be very careful out there, because you in the light,

1596
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 2: you are a target. There is no way around it.

1597
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: Stay focused, Stay away from that rico, stay away from that.

1598
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 3: We go only Puerto Rico. The only Rico you need

1599
01:18:58,880 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: to know is Porto Rico.

1600
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: Don't have a vacation.

1601
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: Nah that ship Nah, that shit real out there.

1602
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:12,520
Speaker 5: That's a bar you might hear next. It's poco.

1603
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 2: Stay away. You are talking.

1604
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 3: If you ever was paranoid, if you ever thought people

1605
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 3: were watching you, they are. You can't.

1606
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 2: I can't do shit, okay, fat Joe, And I'm an

1607
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 2: old school right. I walk out of a hotel. True story,

1608
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: pick of time. Six in the morning, six in the morning.

1609
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 2: I looked to the right.

1610
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 3: Bam, somebody through the window got the camera. I walked

1611
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 3: to get in the car.

1612
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: Bam.

1613
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 3: Somebody at the bus stop got the camera. I walk

1614
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: in the thing.

1615
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 2: Bam, they got the drivers. Like this, yo, I got.

1616
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 3: Fetch You're done. You're done.

1617
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: If you don't see these cameras all over, like, you

1618
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: gotta be crazy. You're not getting away with a crime.

1619
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 2: You're just not getting away with a crime. Your phone towers,

1620
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: they know where you're at. Like, don't be dumb out here.

1621
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 2: If your dream was I grew up poor, I have

1622
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: a dream of being successful, buying my mother a house.

1623
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 2: When you do become successful, why play that game. There's

1624
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: something very interesting. Jeez told me when the other day.

1625
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 2: He said, t I saw him counting mad money in

1626
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: the studio one day and t I said, Yo, let

1627
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: me holler at you. It's the first time they met,

1628
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 2: and he said yeah. He said, well, you know you

1629
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: can't do both. He said, you're very, very talented. I

1630
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,839
Speaker 2: believe you could be a superstar. You can't sell drugs

1631
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 2: and rap is just not gonna work. And so that's

1632
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: very important for everybody to know. You can't be out

1633
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 2: here doing these crimes, you know, because you're gonna get

1634
01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 2: caught up sooner or later. But shit, we did it

1635
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: to our special record up Joe. I thought we had

1636
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: a Tony Yayo drink champ. So that motherfucker went five

1637
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: and a half hours. God damn, I have to wait

1638
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: for the fourth hour and thirty ninth minute to hear

1639
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: about that. Joe and Terror squad up Dizzy and that motherfucker.

1640
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: We'll save you something for later, Thank you, save a

1641
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: little piece for late, a little bit, pea crack man,

1642
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 2: appreciate you. Appreciate you man, Thank you, guys. Raparate on podcasts, Yeah.

1643
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,559
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1644
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,840
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01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:43,880
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1646
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:48,320
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1647
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:53,000
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1648
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1649
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,920
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