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Speaker 2: My brother's girlfriend demands that we treat her kids like

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Speaker 2: our own. I refuse. Those aren't my kids.

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Speaker 3: I thirty two female, have two sons with my husband,

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Speaker 2: I obviously love my kids, but I don't really like

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Speaker 3: I am just not the maternal type that we'll want

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Speaker 3: to interact with other kids or find them.

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Speaker 3: my brother has been dating his girlfriend, Natalie thirty one female,

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Speaker 3: and she has two kids as well, seven male and

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Speaker 3: five females. When we first met Natalie, she seemed excited

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Speaker 3: that I have kids and started planning how our kids

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Speaker 3: will bond and play together. This did not happen, and

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Speaker 3: the main reason is the age difference. Again, my kids

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Speaker 3: are three years old and ten months I don't know

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Speaker 3: how she imagined that her seven year old will bond

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Speaker 3: so well with the baby or someone four years younger

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Speaker 3: than him. Her five year old daughter is a different situation.

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Speaker 3: She is very rowdy, so my oldest avoids her at

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Speaker 3: all costs whenever we meet during family functions or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Despite our kids clearly not blending well. I would say

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Speaker 3: that we were nice towards Natalie and her kids. Last Christmas,

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Speaker 3: for example, the first Christmas since they got together, we

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Speaker 3: gave gifts to her kids when we met at my parents'

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Speaker 3: place for dinner, and I thought that was enough. However,

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Speaker 3: Natalie decided to confront me on things I apparently did

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Speaker 3: wrong and hurt her feelings. She mentioned I did not

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Speaker 3: become my niece and nephew in the future. I refuse

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Speaker 3: to have her kids over at my place for play

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Speaker 3: dates without her being present. To be clear, I am

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Speaker 3: okay with hosting her, my brother and her kids for

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Speaker 3: a dinner or something. I refuse to make my son

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Speaker 3: like her daughter. I am cold towards her kids. I

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Speaker 3: explained to her that I can't and will not force

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Speaker 3: also said that I am not comfortable having her kids

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Speaker 3: all attended, and I don't want to be responsible for

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Speaker 3: I explained to her that I am not cold on purpose,

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Speaker 3: but this is how I am as a person. I'm

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Speaker 3: not a kids fan, I am not overly maternal, and

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Speaker 3: I simply don't feel like being overly excited over kids.

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Speaker 3: She said that this is not true because she saw

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Speaker 3: that I am everything I claim not to be with

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Speaker 3: my kids. Well, yes, because they're my own children. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, why don't you kept my children like

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Speaker 2: you care for your children? Yeah? Well maybe because them

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Speaker 2: literally my children. Yeah. She also claims that everyone has

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Speaker 2: been excluding her children. When I asked her how, she

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Speaker 2: gave me the same examples from above and claimed that

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, because they are their grandchildren. This

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Speaker 3: is their first Christmas together. They have not been together

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Speaker 3: for very long year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah year man, Yeah, I think like once it is

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Speaker 2: fully welcome, you're like married or something like that, then yeah,

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Speaker 2: they'd probably have it changed in mind. Sure, but sure

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Speaker 2: right now you are still getting to know each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so mmmmmm. In the end, we were not getting anywhere.

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Speaker 3: So I told her, Look, Natalie, you started dating my

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Speaker 3: a couple of meetings with you and your kids, and

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Speaker 3: everyone was nice to all of you. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what your problem is, but you need to speak to

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Speaker 3: This is never going to happen. My kids are my kids.

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Speaker 3: They don't owe anything to yours, and you are not

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Speaker 2: Please solve this issue with my brother. My brother apologized

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Speaker 2: for her and mentioned to me that she sounds like

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Speaker 2: I am polite to her, but she seems manipulative and

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Speaker 2: if she doesn't want to hear the truth, she should

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Speaker 2: not start this kind of discussion with me. My brother

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Speaker 2: is lost. He does not know how to manage this madness.

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Speaker 2: And I am honestly confused if I did anything wrong

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Speaker 2: when speaking to her. And we do have an update.

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Speaker 2: But do you think that she did anything wrong?

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Speaker 2: I think that this woman is like expecting so much

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Speaker 2: in a very short time. Yeah. For example, if like

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Speaker 2: you within two weeks, Yeah, it's like whoa, whoa, that's

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Speaker 2: that would be weird for the kids too.

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Speaker 3: I feel to be like, eh, like I love you

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Speaker 2: They're very young kids. We shouldn't be forcing these functions

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Speaker 2: I have received a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of feedback on my original post, and for that I

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Speaker 3: am very grateful. I tried replying to as many of

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Speaker 3: DM's are full. But I have read your comments and

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate you spending some of your time to

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Speaker 3: Many of you pointed out that Natalie is looking for

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Speaker 3: an instant family. I was not used to this term,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, after reading your comments and looking for more information,

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Speaker 3: I agree that this seems to be the case. Many

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Speaker 3: of you asked about her family and her kid's father

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Speaker 3: and grandparents. I don't know much about them. My brother

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of confusion on why the children

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Speaker 3: part of this post for me was receiving a lot

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Speaker 3: of messages from people who told me how they were

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Speaker 3: forced to play with kids that they didn't like and.

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Speaker 2: How this affected them.

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Speaker 3: I'm really sorry for all of your experiences, but I

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Speaker 2: I would rather have people calling me names than force

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Speaker 2: a nice person. In case it was not clear, I

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Speaker 2: be an ally to my kids, not be a saint

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Speaker 2: or seen as the most amazing woman alive. Many of

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Speaker 2: you accused me of not making time to bond with

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Speaker 2: for a year. To be clear, up until this point,

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Speaker 2: I've only met her kids four times. I think people

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Speaker 2: missed some details in regard to timing. Natalie started daging

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Speaker 2: my brother last year. Around February last year, I was pregnant,

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Speaker 2: I gave birth, and after that I had to raise

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Speaker 3: I'm a very nasty person for raising my kids. Some

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Speaker 3: able to form bonds with new people in a matter

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Speaker 2: I am not like this.

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Speaker 3: For me, it takes time to grow a relationship, get

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Speaker 3: in my books, the people who I've seen only four

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Speaker 3: willing to be Natalie's village. I'm sorry if she's in

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Speaker 2: Not quite, that's not a village, that's just a family

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Speaker 5: To be that for your family English major, Well, just.

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Speaker 2: Don't get it. I think she's just using I know

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Speaker 2: what she's saying, like like, oh, it's because the thing

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Speaker 2: is all about you know, takes a village. My family's myage.

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Speaker 2: That's just your family. She want a village.

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Speaker 3: That's I think there's accurate, very wrong way, and I

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Speaker 3: think we've ignored she's saying she is her family's village.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which that's you can't be your family using different words, Oh,

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Speaker 2: can't be your family's village. Okay, that's okay, Sophia, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to be your family's village anyway.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, my oldest, although a calm and cute kid, is

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Speaker 3: all the time. If I don't supervise him all the time,

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Speaker 3: he will sneak and eat the cat's food or insert

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Speaker 3: his fingers into wire sockets. By the way, a genuine

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Speaker 3: question for all the parents who have three year old kids.

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Speaker 3: Are all the kids so kamakazi? Or is only mine

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Speaker 3: this level of menace?

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Speaker 2: I think it's generally all kids.

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Speaker 5: They all do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I don't need two additional stranger kids

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Speaker 3: in my home unsupervised by their parents, sue me.

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Speaker 2: Now to the update.

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Speaker 3: After reading all your replies, I understood my brother is

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Speaker 3: not being fair. He asks me to be understanding of

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Speaker 3: Natalie's situation, But is he understanding of mine? I don't

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Speaker 3: think so, so I sent him the following message. Hey, brother,

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Speaker 3: I had some time to think about the entire situation,

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Speaker 3: and I want to share my thoughts with you. First

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Speaker 3: of all, I did something that might make you mad,

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Speaker 3: and you might not agree with it, but please keep

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Speaker 3: an open mind and read what I am about to

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Speaker 2: Now I feel like you are not fair towards me.

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Speaker 3: I understand that you have a relationship with Natalie and

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Speaker 3: I am not a therapist, I am not an emotional

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Speaker 3: Since I was a baby, you know how I am.

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Speaker 2: Here's what went down this weekend. When Sarah and I

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Speaker 2: Sarah didn't hesitate and backed me, saying if Ben kept pushing,

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Speaker 2: I might be naive, but I'm optimistic. Sarah's parents didn't

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 2: We go, that's it, they're found it. Oh yeah, we

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Speaker 3: It was crazy that he was saying, like, why are

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Speaker 2: This exactly.

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Speaker 2: since we're signing a prenup to protect their family assets.

435
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 2: I'm no slouch, though I made something of myself. Sarah

436
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 2: was there through my darkest days addiction hitting rock bottom,

437
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 2: falling apart. Her parents thought she could do better, kept

438
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 2: pushing their family piety thing, which probably made her feel

439
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: stuck in the middle. Early on, some of you said

440
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: I should dump Sarah, but that's not right. We've been

441
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 2: together for years and she's been my rock through that mess.

442
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 2: I've got screw ups, she's that slide addictions, some darker stuff,

443
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to judge her for one rough patch.

444
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: We've started counseling soon, something we both want to keep

445
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: a solid There is a little bit left to the story,

446
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 2: any final thoughts. One of our commentarers said something about,

447
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 2: like add the watch to the prenup. Yeah, yeah, you

448
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 2: don't get the watch. Yeah you're not getting that watch, honestly. Yeah,

449
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 2: but there's a little bit left of the story. But yeah,

450
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: I think that you are on the right path with

451
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 2: really Sarah for sure. Yes, And I think it's just

452
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 2: like I think in therapy, you need to have a

453
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 2: pretty long discussion about how you know what you want

454
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: your relationship with her family to be going forward. Yeah,

455
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: and hopefully you kind of set those boundaries, don't let

456
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 2: them walk all over you as it seems they want

457
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 2: to do. And I think you'll be all right. Yes,

458
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 2: I agree, we decided not to get better. Watch. A

459
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 2: lot of you pointed out a wedding gift should be

460
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 2: for both the bride and groom, and I wasn't thinking

461
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: straight before. We're leaning towards a honeymoon contribution instead. I'm

462
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: starting to see clearer. Thank you everyone for the suggestions

463
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: and support. I know I'm going against the main suggestion

464
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 2: to dump Sarah, but that's not an option at this point,

465
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: not without me giving it my all because I know

466
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: she's willing to do the same. And that is the

467
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: end of that story. Folks. Good good, We're head in

468
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: the right direction.

469
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 6: Though.

470
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think what on like the brother

471
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: in law's behalf, Huh, you're crazy, you're cit But with

472
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: Sarah and NP, I think that's good. I still think

473
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 2: it's probably a good discussion to have of like, hey,

474
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: why did that happen in the first place?

475
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 3: Yes, but you know, still something that you can work

476
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: through for sure. For sure, I refuse to pay my

477
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: cats at her because she did a horrible job.

478
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: Well, how much were you paying her per hour? I

479
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: twenty nine female have an eleven year old Calico named Daisy.

480
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: A year Ago.

481
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: I moved a few hours further from home for work,

482
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 3: which came with the issue of needing to find a

483
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 3: new sitter. By the way, this comes from cat Mom

484
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: five one five two five and if you want to

485
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: submit your own stories, go to the ur slash Okay

486
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 3: story time separate it. So my fiance thirty four male

487
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 3: and I were lucky to find somebody pretty quickly through

488
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: a pet sitting app, but she ended up being unavailable

489
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: during the week of our trip. This came up over

490
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: dinner at my sister's house and her daughter and my

491
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 3: niece suggested her cousin brother in law's family, Ava eighteen female,

492
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: saying that she's been looking for some side jobs to

493
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 3: make money before she goes off to college this fall.

494
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 3: I contacted Ava and she accepted the job. I invited

495
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: Ava over a couple of days early so that she

496
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 3: could meet Daisy and get acquainted with this space. The

497
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: most important detail here is that I emphasized our main

498
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: rule to not let Daisy out unleashed and unsupervised. I

499
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: showed Ava the harness and leash I used to take

500
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: Daisy on walks, explain the risks of letting her out unsupervised.

501
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 3: And she seemed to understand. Fiance and I left on

502
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 3: our trip a couple of days later. Thanks all was well.

503
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: We finally got back yesterday after a genuinely lovely week

504
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: and met Ava as she was finishing up with her

505
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: last drop in. During our reunion, I found scratches on Daisy.

506
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: I asked Ava if she had any idea of what happened.

507
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 2: At first, Ava's story was that she didn't know, and

508
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: then she admitted that it might have happened when they

509
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: went on a walk. I went to find the harness

510
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: to see if there was any damage to it, but

511
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: it was in the exact same spot that I left

512
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: it in, along with the leash. I asked Ava point

513
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: blank because she let Daisy out by herself, and she

514
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: finally admitted, yes, don't do that. Guys, don't let your

515
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 2: cats out by themselves. They ruined the local ecology. Really, yeah,

516
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: I was thinking, you know, the cat could like run

517
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: away or get hit by car that, but also they

518
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: are like a menace to the local wildlife, which did

519
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: a pretty big pot problem the bird population. That makes sense, Yeah,

520
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: I could see that. Yeah. Ava said that Daisy wouldn't

521
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: stop hounding her for food.

522
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 3: And treats, and that she was yowling so much during

523
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: a drop in when she was having a headache that

524
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: she put her out for a little while while she

525
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: set up the food and cleaned the litter.

526
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: She then forgot Daisy outside all nights.

527
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, which honestly is that's probably the most

528
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: fun that Daisy had in a long time.

529
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, mean, she gone to a tussle, But she

530
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: gone to a freaking tussle, man, Yeah, oh mysh, It's

531
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: like a miracle that she is still here, dude, and

532
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: came back. I would not give this lady money. I

533
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: would not give it.

534
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I wouldn't either. I would not either. I think

535
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 4: neglecting my pet like disqualifies you from payment. Although I

536
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: do believe in that cats and all animals have more

537
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: fulfilled life outside.

538
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, well I would agree with that, but forgetting them, Yeah,

539
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: living outside is different from just enjoying the outdoors, for sure,

540
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: But like I enjoy the outdoors, could you survive in

541
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: the oudoor? No, I'm domesticated degree. She said that she

542
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: realized when she dropped back in the next morning for

543
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: a feeding and a walk, and Daisy wasn't waiting just

544
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: inside the door that she remembered that she put her,

545
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: so she tried shaking a bag of Daisy's favorite cat treats,

546
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 2: which worked. She's a greedy little cat.

547
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: I was furious at that point and asked Ava to leave.

548
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: She asked what about the money, and I told her

549
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: that she wouldn't be getting paid. She got upset and

550
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: so that it wasn't fair to not pay her for

551
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: an entire week over one mistake, but eventually she left.

552
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: She has texted me an apology since. But I've also

553
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 3: received text from my brother in law, who was mostly

554
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: taking her side in the issue and saying that I

555
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 3: should absolutely pay her, but that he would understand if

556
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: I docked.

557
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: A day off.

558
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 3: I told him that I'll be putting my money towards

559
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: a vet visit, which I have an appointment for tomorrow.

560
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: And to clarify a few things, Ava is not a

561
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: family member of mine. She is my brother in law's niece,

562
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: technically step niece, as his sister is Ava's stepmother.

563
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: I do not consider her a niece or cousin of mine.

564
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: Family is not a factory here for me. I didn't

565
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: know her at all, and admit that I should have

566
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: been more cautious about hiring her. Brother in law said

567
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: that she was a very good and responsible kid, and

568
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: she had done some pet sitting jobs before.

569
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: So I thought everything would be fine. Wouldn't be making

570
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: that mistake again. To those suggesting that I still pay

571
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 3: Ava but dock the vet bills from her pay, if

572
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: I do that, it will result in her owing me.

573
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: I do not want to pursue legal action or try

574
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: to get any money out of Abam. I've told her

575
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: and the brother in law this and expressed more than

576
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: once that the best I will do is compromise and

577
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: consider us square. I don't pay her. She doesn't pay

578
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: any of Daisy's vet bills. Honestly, so fair.

579
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: I think that's so fair because it is one thing

580
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: like when she was saying, like, you know, maybe you

581
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: don't get paid for all this, I was thinking like, well,

582
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: maybe like you can pay for like one day out

583
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: of the whole week or something. Yeah. Maybe. But the

584
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: fact that I, like I forgot about the scratches, scratches,

585
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: the scratches she's going to the vet. Yeah, that's expensive,

586
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: totally expensive and overpriced. Yeah, So I think that's totally fair.

587
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know results for certain things won't be available

588
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: or reliable, so soon I will be doing follow up

589
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 3: appointments for further testing and assessments. Some relevant comments, Scarlet

590
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: not that one info is the VET visit due to

591
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: harm incurred from the unleashed walk. If so so, then

592
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: not the a hole for not paying. Normally, she would

593
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: deserve to get paid for most or all of what

594
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: she worked. But if she intentionally disregarded your clear instructions

595
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: and that caused damage, then it's fair for the cost

596
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: of damage to be deducted from the pay. Opie responds.

597
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: The VET visit is for the scratches that I found

598
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: on her. Yes, I want to make sure that they

599
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: aren't infected and that she didn't contract anything. I'm honestly

600
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: not sure how Ava didn't notice them, or if she

601
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: just thought that she could get away with it. They

602
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: had dried blood stuck to them, and they were two

603
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: to three inches in length.

604
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: Hikes spikes man.

605
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: I've since cleaned the wound a bit with some water

606
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: and a towel, and I gave her a true tube.

607
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: I wanted to take her to the VET immediately, but

608
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: we got home quite late, so it had already closed.

609
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: And when I called first thing this morning to ask

610
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: about coming in, they said that they had several appointments

611
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: and that somebody had called out sick, but they would

612
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: squeeze me in tomorrow. Jem's anity says, not the a

613
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: hole at all. She's lucky your cat didn't get lost

614
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: or worse. Yeah, I'm currently dog sitting to help my

615
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 3: friend out as I'm not used around dogs. He's given

616
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: me a comprehensive list of dues and dunts. You bet

617
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: I'm following that list to the letter because he knows

618
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: his dog.

619
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: Better than I do.

620
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 6: No.

621
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: Every time I've ever pet said, people give me like

622
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: a whole spreadsheet, you know, like a whole list of

623
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: things that I do, and then you go down the

624
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: list and you literally do everything that they say everything.

625
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: That's part of the job. Yeah, that's part of job.

626
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah what I Those pets are important to them. Yeah.

627
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: I catsit for my aunt like all the time. And

628
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: there was one time where like I was going into

629
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: that yard and one of them like accidentally got out,

630
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, I was terrified, but luckily I

631
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: was able to it like ran out and then paused,

632
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: and so I just snuck up behind it and picked

633
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: it up nice.

634
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: I was terrified. Yeah, because of this. It's so dangerous

635
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: to let like cats that don't go out often. I mean,

636
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: this one seems too but on a leash. Yeah, it's

637
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: so dangerous to let them out because you don't know

638
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: if they're going to come back get up to Yeah,

639
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: although we're getting on quite well. She even took me

640
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: for a walk earlier. Opi responds, I'm honestly so glad

641
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: that nothing worse happened. We live close to a busy

642
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: road and I've seen other strays in the area. I'm

643
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: a little worried if she was attacked by a stray cat,

644
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: which is what it looks like, that she could have

645
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: contracted something. Northern lit Up says, not the a hole.

646
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: Tell her that you will pay her whatever is left

647
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: of her fee after the bed visit, provided that your

648
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: cat doesn't need anything due to her injuries. Daisy very

649
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: easily could have been affected by FIV from a faral cat.

650
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: That's the part that would terrify me quite frankly, she'd

651
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: be lucky if you didn't suit her for the bet care.

652
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: If Daisy did contract a disease, oh, he says, FIV.

653
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Is one of the big concerns right now. I've seen

654
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: strays in the area. Here.

655
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: We do have an update, but yeah, someone in the

656
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: chat said that Eva is eighteen.

657
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I forgot about all that. That's crazy. Don't tell Ronald

658
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: Reagan about fib do you won't do anything.

659
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: Yep, he's like the cat that out there. What does

660
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: We're going to have a gay cat wedding.

661
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: Gay cat wedding, Keep that away from the gay rat weddinges.

662
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 5: BACA officiate space lasers?

663
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 4: Ron what those were his thoughts when he got towards

664
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: the end of his Yeah, he was like after he

665
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: saw Star Wars, Ronald Reagan actually like wanted to develop

666
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: a space laser defense system to protect.

667
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 5: Us from like missile threats.

668
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 4: And everyone was like, okay, mister Reagan, go back to

669
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: your tapioca.

670
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: Like listen, you can get ideas from all over the place.

671
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: You'll never know when inspiration strikes.

672
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there is an update, come and right up.

673
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: I have been incredibly busy with handling my job, apparently

674
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: three people were fired in my absence and caring for

675
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: Daisy since making my original post. But I've read many

676
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: of the comments and understand that many people have questions

677
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: and won an update, so I'm taking my first real

678
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: free moment since coming back from my vacation to fill

679
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: you all in on what's been happening. I took Daisy

680
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: to the day after making my original post due to

681
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: the scratches.

682
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 2: I found on her.

683
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: Like I mentioned in the comments, they were two to

684
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: three inches in length and had dried blood on them.

685
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: The vet's opinion was that they were decently deep and

686
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: lanthly infected, which was later confirmed and Daisy was prescribed

687
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: meds to deal with that. She's much better now and

688
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: she seems to be back to near perfect health, but

689
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: there will be subsequent visits to determine if she has

690
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: any other issues such as f IVY, which can't be

691
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: accurately tested for so soon. My vet was kind enough

692
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: to give me a quote for the future visits I've scheduled,

693
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: which I presented along with a bill from this visit

694
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: to Ava and her parents, who ended up getting involved

695
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: as well, but were much less aggressive than Ava or

696
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: the brother in law. The current bill by itself exceeds

697
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: what we had agreed to pay Ava. Ava tried to

698
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: push back more, which I ignored, and then her parents

699
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: reached out to me. The four of us, me, Ava,

700
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: her mom, and her dad met up, and Ava's parents

701
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: immediately brought up small claims Court and asked that I

702
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: please not drag them and their daughter through the system

703
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: over a VET bill. Just to be clear, I never

704
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: threatened to do so. The only time court came up

705
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: was when brother in law brought it up to me,

706
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: and I'm assuming Eva as well, and I insisted that

707
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: I didn't want to make this illegal matter. I told

708
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 3: Ava's parents the same that I was not seeking legal

709
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: action and was happy to consider us square. There is

710
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: a little bit more to the story. But what are

711
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: your final doubts stories.

712
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: I feel like everything's kind of working out right, totally

713
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: working out, Yeah, I think you're just getting you know,

714
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: don't give her that money, yep, get your cat all

715
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: fixed up, yeah, and find a better person to cat

716
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: sit your cat. Totally totally. I know.

717
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: I hope he was mentioning, like the brother in law

718
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: brought up small claims court. I wonder if he brought

719
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: it up in the way of like, if you don't

720
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: pay Ava, we're gonna take you to court. And she's like, okay,

721
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: go ahead, bet like go ahead, this is all the

722
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: stuff that you cost me from this stupid mistake.

723
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

724
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what a ridiculous thing. Ridiculous got her outside. Yeah,

725
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: and then it's trying to like I need money, you

726
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: don't do anything, because that makes you wonder, like how

727
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: much she was paying attention to the cat anyway? I

728
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: doubt at all. Yeah, get a little bit more into

729
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: the story before we wrap it up.

730
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: The only other thing I wanted was for Ava to

731
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: apologize for endangering Daisy. She didn't seem happy, but she

732
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: said sorry, and that was that. I'm glad my cat

733
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: is safe and healthy, and I'm glad the drama is over.

734
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: Safe to say I won't be planning any more trips

735
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: away until my regular sitter is available again.

736
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

737
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: There are a few other questions I noticed in the

738
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: comments that I'd like to answer. They will be in

739
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: a comment I post below. Thank you to everyone for

740
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: your feedback and your support. More relevant comments. Op provides

741
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: more info on her own comments. I got busy with dinner,

742
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: but here are those questions and answers I mentioned. Thank

743
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: you all again to the question why wasn't your usual

744
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: cats are available?

745
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Did she not like Daisy?

746
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: Did she cancel. I think we covered that before. Lana,

747
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: our usual sitter, is currently dealing with.

748
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: The personal loss. Oh.

749
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: She let us know about it when we reached out,

750
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: and that she would not be available for a few

751
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: months as she got her affairs in order and traveled

752
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: to attend the funeral. She loves Daisy and has told

753
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: us many times that she enjoys caring for her. She

754
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: even croucheted Daisy as saying to have for Christmas and

755
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: we took photos of her in it for Christmas cards.

756
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: That is the cutest thing I've ever heard.

757
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: Another question, is Daisy poorly trained or very loud, very

758
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 2: needy and a nuisance? Yeah, it's a.

759
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: Cat, poorly trained.

760
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 2: She's a cat.

761
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry.

762
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: Are you implying you can't train a cat? No, but

763
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: I'm complying that they don't like to be treated. They

764
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: like to rebel. Yeah.

765
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: But another question was does she wait by the door

766
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: or try to run outside? The answer from op is no.

767
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: On occasion, if she isn't preoccupied, she may follow me

768
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 3: to the door to say goodbye, or if she's expecting

769
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: a walk, we go out during a specific time of day,

770
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 3: but she doesn't wait by the door when we're going

771
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: in or out trying to run for it, and we've

772
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: never had an issue with her trying to slip out.

773
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 3: She knows that she's an indoor kiddy. I have also

774
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: never had a sitter tell me that they've had an

775
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: issue with Daisy around feeding times. Sometimes she willed me

776
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: out quietly as I'm preparing her bowl or getting treats,

777
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: but she is not loud and obnoxious. Another question is

778
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: why don't you want Daisy going outside? Opie's answer is

779
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: I do want her to go outside, but only when

780
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: she is leashed and supervised for the safe of her

781
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: and the environment around us. Outdoor cats are more likely

782
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: to be enlived by predators, harmed or infected by other animals,

783
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: or hit by cars.

784
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: They pose a major threat to local product. Yeah. Love, Ope,

785
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: you're awesome. Yeah, you know a lot of stuff and

786
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, very very true. They could wander

787
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: into a neighbor's yard and eat toxic plants. The list

788
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: goes on and on. I love Daisy very much.

789
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: I care about her health and safety, so she is

790
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: an indoor cat, but I also want her to be

791
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: able to safely experience the outdoors leashed walks are the

792
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 3: only solution at the moment until fiance and I can

793
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: get a cadio built.

794
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: Okay. Another question is Daisy Spade are her shots up

795
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: to date?

796
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: Yes and yes, But even with up to date shots,

797
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: she can still potentially contract something.

798
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: Oh and that is the end of that story.

799
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: John, Here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story.

800
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: But a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors.

801
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 2: The bride purposely made us look bad, so I wore

802
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: a different colored dress.

803
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 5: I would dressed with the cutters.

804
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: Note story has two ops woo the bride and the friends.

805
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 5: Oh boil boil boy.

806
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: Original post by first Ope, am I the ale for

807
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: wearing a different colored bridesmaid dress after the bride tried

808
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: to purposely make us look unflattering. Recently, I twenty eight

809
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: female was a bridesmaid in My Friend Tara twenty eight

810
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: female and Tony's thirty male wedding, along with bridesmaids Amy

811
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: twenty seven female, Jane twenty nine female, and her sister

812
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: Lily thirty two female. Tara was one of those brides

813
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: where everything had to be perfect so early on, Tara

814
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: placed her priority on the logistics. Because of this, Tara

815
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: had left the details about the bride'smaid dress.

816
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: For last a Tara or Tara, Tara oath Tara or

817
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 5: Tara Okay, you can pronounce it either way.

818
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from bad Dress and you

819
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: slash a friend's bride's throwaway And if you want to

820
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay

821
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: storytime superad it Oh. Tara had organized a lunch for

822
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: us in April to talk over the details of the dresses.

823
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: She handed out swatches and said that the dresses must

824
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: be in that color and floor length. I asked Tara

825
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: if she was being serious, to which Tara asked what

826
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: the problem was. Simply put, the color was ugly and unflattering.

827
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: Hmm ok already, it seems like you're the problem, OPI.

828
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe you could have just been like, can I

829
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: have a different color?

830
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jane also spoke up and said that this color

831
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: is gonna make everyone in the party look bad. Amy

832
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 2: also agreed this is like a bad episode of freaking

833
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: say yes to the dress when all the bridesmaids are

834
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: ganging up on the bride.

835
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: But look when you have like three people being like

836
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 5: this is the worst color ever.

837
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 4: Maybe it actually is clearly possible. Maybe it's the color

838
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: of baby food. This is not how you bring it up, though, yup,

839
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: this is not how you bring it up peas and carrots.

840
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: Tara rolled her eyes at us and said that she

841
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: was sure and she expect us as bridesmaids, to go

842
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: along with what she wanted. Lily decided to chime in

843
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: said that she thought the color was fine. I think

844
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: that she said this to prevent her younger sister from

845
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: going full bridezilla. For months, Amy, John and I begged

846
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: Tara to consider a different color, but she wouldn't budge.

847
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: We asked Lily to ask her sister to reconsider her,

848
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: but she said that she was the bride and that

849
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 2: we should respect her choices. Yeah, no, crap, she was

850
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: the bride, but that doesn't mean that we have to

851
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: sacrifice the way we look and look unattractive. Honestly, I

852
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: feel like they're overreacting. I think that there is a

853
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: lot of you know, if the dresses were really revealing

854
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: or really unflattering, like shape wise, I think that's fair.

855
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: But I feel like the color you don't really get

856
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: too much saying.

857
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: I personally think that both sides are wrong. I think

858
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 4: if you have three people who are like, yeah, I know,

859
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 4: this color is literally the ugliest color I ever seen,

860
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 4: you should be like, oh, I should probably not put

861
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: that in my wedding that I'm happy my friends be

862
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 4: in seeing as they hate it. You, I can make

863
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 4: it literally any of the infinite colors available to me

864
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 4: as an alternative.

865
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: But okay, i'll give you one thing. I'm not saying

866
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 2: that you're wrong.

867
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 5: It'd be different if they were saying her dress needed

868
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 5: to change.

869
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: They're like that color is disgusting. She's like, it's white.

870
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: Right.

871
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying that you're wrong, because I see

872
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: where I see where you're coming from. However, we've read

873
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: a lot of stories where people are like this color

874
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: is super significant, which is I'm not saying, is this

875
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: you know the case here, but like, there are a

876
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: lot of brides who are like, this is the color

877
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: I want because this is my husband and I's favorite color,

878
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: and we've always dreamed of having, you know, navy blue wedding.

879
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: And they're all like, I don't look good in navy blue.

880
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to wear and that's ugly. It's like, okay,

881
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: but this is my wedding.

882
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: I feel like it can and I really love I

883
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 4: get it because navy blue, I mean navy blue be

884
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: one thing.

885
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: The navy blue.

886
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 5: We don't need the color.

887
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 4: I need to know what horrendous imagine it's like a

888
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: gradient of like baby puke gen and like maroon.

889
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: It's like it's like just highlighter yellow.

890
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 5: And incomprehensible color combo.

891
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: Maroon's not oh, you mean color right?

892
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 5: If you it's a split.

893
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: If you split Maroon with baby Puke green. I mean,

894
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm physically like upset just thinking about that.

895
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: Anyway. Amy pointed out that Tara was probably making us

896
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: look bad on purpose so that she could look better,

897
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: and that made me furious, a lot of conjecture going

898
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: on there. And also, it's her wedding day. She's supposed

899
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: to look better than you, right.

900
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 5: That that is that is out of pocket.

901
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: And here's where I may be in the wrong. Amy,

902
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: Jane and I decided that enough was enough and that

903
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Tara was really being unreasonable about this whole thing, and

904
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 2: so was Lily. So we decided to lie to Tara

905
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: and say that we were going to order dresses in

906
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: the color she wanted and sent her screenshots of dresses

907
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: in that color. Yeah, you guys are the al Tara

908
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: is fine without seeing.

909
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 5: The color, I have to say, you guys are there.

910
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: You are the a whole unequivocally, it's tari istally fine.

911
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 5: There is there any way that we can get color.

912
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: No, I think we're about to find I think we're

913
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: gonna find that.

914
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 5: Please please don't don't tell us, because I think.

915
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna find it. Meanwhile, the three of us created

916
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: a separate group chat and decided to order dresses that

917
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: would actually make us look good. We agreed on baby

918
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: blue and bought the dresses online.

919
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: Ay, these broad's hedge are full of rocks. You ordered

920
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 5: baby blue for a wedding?

921
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 4: Oh my god, as the brides isn't that like, I

922
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: you know, isn't that supposed to be like very tightly

923
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: controlled at a wedding?

924
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Yes, the color.

925
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: Blue, well, no specific Yeah, something borrowed something blue. But

926
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: also the bridesmaid dress colors are tightly supposed to be

927
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: tightly controlled. Also, I feel like we there might be

928
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: a different reason for all of them agreeing that that

929
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: color was ugly, And I think it's because they're all

930
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: controlling and they pick on Op, or they pick on

931
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: the bride. That's what it feels like. It feels like

932
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: they're all mean girls.

933
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: Right, the freaking lie like all the bride. Also, it's

934
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 4: her wedding days if it's the group. No, no, no,

935
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: I'm not saying the bride and mean girl for being

936
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: like where this color. I'm just saying, these are three

937
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: people in your bride's maids.

938
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, closest friends.

939
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: Sure, you might have some overlap in the way that

940
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: you guys act.

941
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: Sure. Tara didn't ask any more questions about the dresses

942
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 2: and essentially just took our word that everything was okay. Wow,

943
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: your friend took your word. Flash forward to the wedding day.

944
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: The moment we put on our dresses, Tara lost her

945
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: crap and I bet that Op's going to call her

946
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: a bridezilla. I bet that Op's going to call her

947
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: bridezilla for that gets pretty dumb. She started yelling at

948
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: us and crying, and Lily had to escort her out

949
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: of the room. Apparently she must have gotten ready elsewhere

950
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: because we didn't see her up until we were called

951
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: to go to the venue for the ceremony. The wedding

952
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: was great, but Tara was upset. Since the wedding, none

953
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: of us have heard from Tara. However, Lily and Tony

954
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: have been texting us, calling us horrible people and claimed

955
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: we ruined the wedding. Tony even said that Tara almost

956
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: canceled the whole thing and he had to force her

957
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: to go through with it. Maybe Tara was upset that

958
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: we didn't get the color that she asked for, but

959
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it was right for us to make us.

960
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it was right for her to make

961
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: us look unattractive? Am I the Ahle? Yeah? Yeah, and

962
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: there are there is a verdict, and I think we're

963
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: gonna find the color. You are automatically the ale unequivocally

964
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: the Ahle.

965
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: Imagine like the Statue of Liberty, but it's five times

966
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: bigger and it's just someone's buttthole.

967
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: That's you. Yeah, yeah, that is you, guys. Well, verdict

968
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: a hole info. What was the color? Terra cotta?

969
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: A pretty a pretty good color. Not gonna lie, that's

970
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 5: not that bad spring wedding.

971
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like a summer wedding.

972
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: That's nice.

973
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 5: No matter what the color was, it's you're still kind

974
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: of the a whole.

975
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just would have been more understandable if it

976
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: was truly like, like it is.

977
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: Truly something that, like everyone who went to that wedding

978
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: was like.

979
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 4: Why like a sea foam green like teacup dress.

980
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: That's horrific. I'm not gonna wear that. You're not gonna

981
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 5: wear that.

982
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: I understand insane, something insane. This is not even close

983
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: to being insane. Some people don't like that color. You

984
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: can't be upset about some people not liking that color. Like,

985
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: that's not a color that you can literally sabotage the

986
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: wedding for.

987
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm buying you tickets to Antarctica one way.

988
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: One you have a nice trip, to have a vacation.

989
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: She shows someone who can get you some research.

990
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 5: You know someone who can get you tickets to Antarctica.

991
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: Anyway. To all the redditors who are saying that it

992
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: was a fall wedding, ever, think she just chose that

993
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: theme as an excuse, just saying Oki what second post

994
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: by second ot, we're about to hear the brides the

995
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: bride's teak and I'm so excited for that. Man, your

996
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: friend is such a girlfriend sucks. Hi everyone, this is

997
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: my first time posting on reddits. I found this forum,

998
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: and I just need to vent a little. Over a

999
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: week ago, I married the love of my life, Lommel

1000
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: Before the most part, the wedding was everything I dreamed

1001
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: it would be. I wish I could say that our

1002
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: wedding wasn't ruined. I wish I could look past the bad. However,

1003
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 2: my bridesmaids went behind my back and decided to lie

1004
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: to me and embarrass me. I had four bridesmaids. Three

1005
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: of them were good friends of mine, and the other

1006
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: one was my sister, who was the maid of honor.

1007
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: I could have asked other better friends of mine to

1008
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: be my bridesmaids, but unfortunately they were booked and didn't

1009
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: have time to be bridesmaids with their schedules, so they

1010
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: attended as guests. So I picked three of my other friends.

1011
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: Looking back, it would have been way better to just

1012
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 2: have my sister as my bridesmaid. I wish I could

1013
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: go back in time and slap myself. When the wedding

1014
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: planning started, my friends didn't put much effort into helping me,

1015
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: which was the first red flag. However, I kind of

1016
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: just sucked it up and did mostly everything myself. A

1017
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: few months later, I got my bridesmaids together and told

1018
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: them the requirements for the bridesmaid dresses. I told them

1019
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 2: that they would have to pay for it themselves since

1020
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: my and my husband, since me and my husband were

1021
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: pretty much paying for everything else, and that the dresses

1022
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: would have to be long and terra cotta, burnt earthy orange.

1023
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: I provided swatches as well so they would have a reference.

1024
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: This was the biggest issue.

1025
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 5: Just this watches.

1026
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: I just want to pointelle, they need to take a

1027
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: page out of out of I can't remember the character's name,

1028
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: but the lady from twenty seven Dresses, she goes to

1029
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: twenty seven freakin' weddings where she's a bridesmaid, and literally

1030
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: there's a montage of her pulling all these ugly dresses

1031
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: that she's never gonna wear again. That's the whole point

1032
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: of that montage is that she has these terrible, terrible dresses,

1033
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: and she does it anyway because she realizes that she's

1034
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: not the bride and she doesn't really have a say

1035
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: in that. She just needs to stuck it up and

1036
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 2: wear these ugly dresses and be there for her friends. Yeah,

1037
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: do that. Other than my sister, who has no issues

1038
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: with the dress. My other bridesmaids were whining about how

1039
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: ugly the color was, and now they wanted me to

1040
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: pick something else. My wedding was fall themed, so the dresses,

1041
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: decor tables, place settings, invitations, floral suits, et cetera. Were

1042
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: meant to be in the orange brown color palette and

1043
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: they chose baby blue.

1044
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: So there is some stuff about how because they have

1045
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 4: to pay for the dress, it's like they should have

1046
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 4: oh somewhat of say I, but.

1047
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 2: I still disagree. I think that if you can't afford it,

1048
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: then say that you can't be a bridesmaid.

1049
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: Sure, exactly like you get to say on.

1050
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: Like the fit.

1051
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 4: Maybe you know I would actually in that exact same

1052
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 4: train of style of dress.

1053
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, I was just saying, I think you

1054
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: get to say on the style of dress.

1055
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, right.

1056
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: Same logic applies though to the why the wife and

1057
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 4: groom who are paying for everything.

1058
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 5: Else at the wedding.

1059
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: Yep, you're not paying for that, so maybe you should

1060
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 4: listen to Maybe is one thing.

1061
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: That they want you to do.

1062
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: Yep. Several times after this, my bridesmaids would text me

1063
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 2: asking me to change the color of the dress. Their

1064
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: biggest complaint was that the color made them look ugly, which,

1065
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: in all honesty I don't think it did. Plus, I

1066
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 2: have already planned out the color scheme with virtually everything else,

1067
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: so it wouldn't make any sense to change the color. Finally,

1068
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: later on, they stopped complaining about the color and sent

1069
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: me screenshots of the dresses that they had bought online,

1070
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: which were all in an earthly orange tone. When they

1071
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: did this, I really thought that they had stepped up

1072
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: as friends and wanted to make me happy. I would

1073
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: have never thought that they were sabotaging me, because they're

1074
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: all adults, you would think. I asked them if the

1075
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: dresses fit correctly and if they needed any adjustments or hemming,

1076
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: which I was happy to pay for them. But the

1077
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 2: three of them said the dresses fit fine. I trusted

1078
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 2: them blindly. The morning of the wedding, my bridesmaids arrived

1079
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: with all of their stuff and started getting ready. Hair

1080
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: and makeup are done, the weather's nice, the wedding jitters

1081
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: are coming in. I felt giddy, but happy and excited

1082
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: to finally marry my partner. Then comes time to put

1083
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: on the bride'smaid dresses. My friends reach into their bags

1084
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: and pull out their dresses, which were in the color

1085
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: light blue. I was shocked. I asked them why the

1086
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: dresses were blue, as that wasn't the dress I asked

1087
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: them repeatedly to buy. One of my bridesmaids said that

1088
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: the terra cotta was an ugly collar and that and

1089
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: that they thought blue would be better. I asked them,

1090
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: but what, But what about the screenshots that they sent me?

1091
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: Apparently it was to get me off.

1092
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 5: Their back, and I'm not kidding. They're not staying.

1093
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: No, no, I would have kicked them out. I kicked

1094
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: them out.

1095
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 4: Don't talk to me anymore, don't text me. You literally

1096
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 4: staged a coup at my wedding while you're one of

1097
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: my what are supposed to be my closest friends. Yep,

1098
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: so thanks for letting me know why forever.

1099
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: I was in tears at this point and ask them

1100
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: why the heck they would lie to me. One of

1101
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: the other bridesmaids then accused me of trying to make

1102
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: them look bad on purpose so that they and outshine me. Dude,

1103
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: if you look ugly in a terra cotta dress, then

1104
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 2: you're not gonna outshine this girl.

1105
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: I just think you're not gonna outshaw all you were ugly.

1106
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can just I could just tell you're ugly.

1107
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 5: You're rotten on the inside.

1108
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: If you were truly beautiful, you'd look beautiful in anything.

1109
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: You're ugly on the inside and the outside. And I

1110
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 2: hate you.

1111
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, snap your fingers.

1112
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 5: I cast power would dissolve.

1113
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't hate you. I'd just like you strongly.

1114
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 5: I'll say it. Cut it out.

1115
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm just kidding. Cut it out. I told

1116
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: them that wasn't true, and I was just going for

1117
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: a fall themed wedding. My sister and I went to

1118
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: a separate room because the conversation was escalating and I

1119
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: was getting more and more upset. My sister had to

1120
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: console me, and my husband consoled me over the phone.

1121
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: After I was able to get ready, we all made

1122
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: it to the venue for the ceremony. The car ride

1123
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: was silent. At this point, I didn't care anymore. I

1124
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: just wanted to get married. The bridesmaids, aside from my sister,

1125
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: stood out like a sore thumb. I'm really hoping that

1126
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: they weren't too much of a distraction to the guest

1127
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: during the wedding, but it's no doubt that they were

1128
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: a distraction, all right, The photos with the entire wedding

1129
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: party in it obviously sucked. My photographer said that she

1130
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: would try and photoshop the dresses, but still, I really

1131
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 2: wanted to uninvite them from the reception, but I had

1132
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: already paid for their seats, stable settings, and I didn't

1133
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: want that to go to waste. The reception was a

1134
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: lot better, but I had to still deal with the

1135
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: disrespectful attitude for my bridesmaids. They were talking during my

1136
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: sister's speech my dad's speech. One of them made comments

1137
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: about how blue is definitely our color, to which the

1138
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: others laughed. My sister had to shut them down multiple times,

1139
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: get them out. Who cares? If you already paid for them,

1140
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: why would you want them there?

1141
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 5: They're not even there during my ceremony.

1142
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: No bye bye. They also continued their accusations about how

1143
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: I was sabotaging the way they looked. I didn't have

1144
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: the strength to argue with them. I just wanted to

1145
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: enjoy my wedding. Since the wedding, I haven't talked to

1146
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: my bridesmaids and I don't really plan on keeping them

1147
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: as friends anymore. Makes sense, Yes, at the end of

1148
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: the day, the color isn't gonna be the biggest deal

1149
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: about your wedding, let alone your marriage. But it's the

1150
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: fact that they lied to me, put their selfish needs

1151
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: in front of my needs, and the fact that they

1152
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: were disrespectful towards me, and something that me and my

1153
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: husband put a lot of thought into. It sucks because

1154
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 2: the vast majority of the wedding was wonderful, but there

1155
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: is a glaring stain over it that was caused by

1156
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 2: my so called friends. And there is a second update

1157
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: by that by the bride. But uh, yeah, cut these

1158
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: people off.

1159
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 5: They suck, and you let them off on easy street.

1160
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1161
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: I would have probably.

1162
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 4: Orchestrated some sort of really embarrassing if they insisted on

1163
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: being at the reception. I would have organized some sort

1164
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 4: of embarrassing call out being like, can.

1165
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 2: We have the baby blues stand up? Everybody? All the

1166
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: baby blues?

1167
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 5: Can we have you stand up?

1168
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 7: These women thought it'd be a great idea to trick

1169
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 7: me and buy a dress that specifically the worst color

1170
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 7: they could have ever chosen for an earth tone wedding.

1171
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 7: Can we all give them a round of applause for

1172
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 7: being so brave?

1173
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't do that because I wouldn't want to

1174
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: give them any more attention. Dude, I don't need to

1175
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: go full crazy medieval or I'm just kicking them out.

1176
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: That's all. Halbird update though, bridesmaid dress fiasco. Hi everyone,

1177
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm with my husband and I'm trying to forget about

1178
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: the whole dress ordeal and just enjoy married life.

1179
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to forget.

1180
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: For some reason, the mods removed my post. Someone said

1181
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: that I should wear a white dress to all three

1182
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: of their weddings. It's funny, but I don't plan on

1183
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: attending any of their weddings right. No, you shouldn't hang

1184
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 2: out with them ever again, and like I said before,

1185
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 2: I'm limiting my contact with them. Many people were saying

1186
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 2: that I should have just punted the three of them out. Yeah,

1187
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: and had my sister as my bridesmaid, which isn't a

1188
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: bad idea. However, it was all about having an even

1189
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 2: number of bridesmaids to groomsmen, as there were four groomsmen

1190
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 2: as well to those asking why my other friends couldn't

1191
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: be a bridesmaid but yet could attend the wedding. In

1192
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: case you don't know, being a bridesmaid involves more than

1193
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: just being there for one day. And No, when I

1194
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: asked my bridesmaids, I didn't see them as lesser friends

1195
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: than my other ones. They are all just close friends

1196
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: of mine from different parts of my life. There is

1197
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: a little bit left to this story. But do you

1198
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 2: have any final thoughts?

1199
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 5: Probably prioritize piece.

1200
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, like I said, I wouldn't even let

1201
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 4: them stay. No, I would have kicked them out at

1202
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 4: this ceremony. And although the thing I suggested to do

1203
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 4: with the reception is funny, in reality, you should probably

1204
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: just quietly have them removed. Yeah, unless you're feeling particularly

1205
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 4: spicy about it, I don't know. I'm just tooted it

1206
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 4: up on a Monday right now, and I'm ready to

1207
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: choose the path of no good.

1208
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 5: But they, you know what, I don't know. They deserve it.

1209
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 4: They deserve to be embarrassed, humbled and called out. And

1210
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: you know silver lining is they're such miserable people. Imagine

1211
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: having to beat at person. Imagine imagine living your life

1212
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 4: fundamentally from the lens of I can't let the bride

1213
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 4: outshine me at her own wedding. What a miserable person.

1214
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking that your friend is trying to make

1215
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 2: you purposely look.

1216
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 4: Bad, which means that it's something that you would do. Yeah,

1217
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 4: because you're a miserable not no, sad Seck's not the

1218
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 4: right word. That was not right.

1219
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 5: I'm trying not to curse, and that came up.

1220
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: I want to.

1221
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: I wanted to do the funny, but I can't do

1222
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: that one.

1223
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 5: Not yet. The world's not ready.

1224
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: The world's not ready for that. But the world is

1225
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 2: ready for the end of the story. And finally, apparently,

1226
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: according to the comments, there is a post out there,

1227
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: supposedly posted by one of my bridesmaids, detailing this whole ordeal.

1228
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: The comments are saying that my story matches up with

1229
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: their story. I wasn't able to find it yet, but

1230
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: I'll keep looking because, oh my god, no, I'm not

1231
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: deleting any comments like people are suggesting. This is my

1232
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: first time logging back on since I posted, so I

1233
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. PS. If anyone could message

1234
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: me the link, that would be great too. It's a

1235
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: lot easier than looking through hundreds of posts on Reddit

1236
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: about bridesmaid dresses. Small update, I found the post. Yeah,

1237
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: all of the details line up unless there was another

1238
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: person out there who had three of their bridesmaids wear

1239
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: blue instead of terra cotta. The ages line up two.

1240
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: Unless the ages were fake, I don't even know what

1241
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: to say or if I should say anything at all,

1242
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 2: based on the age the post are put down. I'm

1243
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: pretty sure I know which one of them posted. Like

1244
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: I said before, I'm limiting my contact with them, which

1245
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: is why I'm not even sure if I should comment

1246
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 2: on her post or message here. I'm seething right now.

1247
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: The fact she wrote an entire post bragging about what

1248
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: she and the other two did is icky comments common one.

1249
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: If they didn't love terra cotta, then go with deep

1250
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: red or burgundy, white light blue. It's so different. Plus

1251
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: terracotta is a pretty color anyway. The writer should have

1252
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: chosen lime green or neon orange, more realistic and truly

1253
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: horrendous on most people. Reply says, right, like, even if

1254
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: they were poc, terra cotta looks on looks okay on

1255
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: most skin tones. I have no idea why they went

1256
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: with something that would stick out like a sore thumb,

1257
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: like a sore thumb at the wedding. It's because they're

1258
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: bad friends. Yeah, they're bad fronds. See mean they're just

1259
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: bad friends. We know why, and that's the end of

1260
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: that story. Folks. They're just bad friends. That's that's the

1261
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: easiest explanation, and it's the right explanation.

1262
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 5: They just suck, that's right.

1263
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: And they wanted attention. They wanted attention.

1264
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 6: Now and now that you know what they are, you

1265
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 6: just give them as little of your emotional and mental

1266
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 6: energy as possible. You agreed, you know, no need to

1267
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 6: play the long con and then show up to their

1268
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 6: wedding and like ruin it or whatever, because that's just

1269
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 6: really all that is is you hanging on to a

1270
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 6: negative thing in your life and having it be propped up.

1271
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: Don't prop up any negativity in for some other donkey

1272
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 4: brained individual.

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Speaker 2: twenty and if you want to smit your own stories,

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Speaker 2: go to the r slash Okay storytime separate it. So

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Speaker 2: this year Frank asked if his boyfriend Ed twenty eight

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00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: mail could come with us. None of us had met him.

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00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: None of us had hadn't what I think none of

1300
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: us had met him, but Frank said he'd cover meals

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00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: to make up for the cost. Ed seemed nice at

1302
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: first and paid for dinner the first night, which was cool.

1303
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: Problems started when we got to the cabin. Ed said

1304
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: he and Frank wanted to take the master bedroom too bad,

1305
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: tooting bad. I told him, maybe a little harshly, that

1306
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: my girlfriend and I usually use it since we pay extra.

1307
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: ED said he didn't get what the big deal was,

1308
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 2: and that we could sleep in one of the single

1309
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: beds or the couch. It sounds like they're already there, yeah,

1310
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: in which case Opie's probably already paid.

1311
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 8: They've already paid. Also, if you wanted, like, there is tradition, too, right,

1312
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 8: a tradition.

1313
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: You can't just bring another person and then be like, well,

1314
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: I want to know.

1315
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: It's not really how it works unless you talked about.

1316
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 2: It before, man, unless you talked about before, you know.

1317
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 8: Let's get let's just get a cabin that has two

1318
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 8: awesome bedrooms exactly.

1319
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: We could change it up, man. These single beds are

1320
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: small and could not comfortably fit two people. Plus Eva

1321
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: would have to share a room with one of the guys,

1322
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: and she didn't want to. Ed said that my girlfriend

1323
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 2: and Eva could share the couch and I could room

1324
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: with one of the guys. I didn't want a room

1325
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: with a guy when my girlfriend and I have been

1326
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: together a lot longer and there's no reason for me

1327
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 2: to room with someone else. In favor of a couple

1328
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 2: who's been together less than a year. Jay and Liam

1329
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: tried to help, like giving Ed and Frank the couch

1330
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: so they could sleep side to side, but Ed said

1331
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: he didn't feel comfortable in open spaces and insisted on

1332
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: the master. Is Ed the new one? Or is Frank

1333
01:00:58,720 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 2: the new one?

1334
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: Open space? Were you doing in open spaces that makes

1335
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: you afraid?

1336
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, yeah, so Frey, Ed is the new one?

1337
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: Why are we afraid of the open spaces?

1338
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: Were we afraid? Where was I? I lost my place? Okay?

1339
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: Ed?

1340
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: And I argued more, and he called me closet a

1341
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: closet officer, saying I didn't support his and Frank's relationship,

1342
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: but not letting them share a room.

1343
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: I see now, Lord.

1344
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: I was about to shout when my girlfriend shut me

1345
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: up and told Ed we'd take the couch. Well, they

1346
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: better be paying more. They better be paying more if

1347
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: they're going to steal your space.

1348
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. How long are they sent? Just

1349
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: a weekend? Right?

1350
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: I think so? I don't know, maybe longer, I'm not sure.

1351
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: We didn't see them much the rest of the trip.

1352
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: I mostly hung out with my girlfriend and Eva on hikes.

1353
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: Ed and Frank used the Master and left a few

1354
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: days early.

1355
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,959
Speaker 8: They didn't even they didn't even they were even there.

1356
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: They're there, they just wanted a little hotel to do.

1357
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: Who knows what.

1358
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: My girlfriend, Jay, Liam, and Eva and I have been

1359
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: talking about what happened. Jay supports me, but even Liam

1360
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: said I made a huge deal out of nothing and

1361
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: that letting them have the Master for a week wasn't

1362
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: a big deal. Even my girlfriend says I took things

1363
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: too far by keeping everyone up, keeping everyone up. I'm

1364
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: still pissed about being punted out of the room, but

1365
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: I think I might be an ale because it was

1366
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: late and everyone wanted to sleep, But I kept dragging

1367
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: out the argument and didn't welcome Ed after he argued

1368
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 2: with me, Am I the ale?

1369
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: No. No, Also, it kind of sucks that your girlfriend

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01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't really have your back on.

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01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: The Yeah, that sucks, Like that was your room, you

1372
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: paid for it, You were already presumably like settled, because

1373
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: if it was late, you probably were already in the room,

1374
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: and then Ed just started saying I want it, I

1375
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: want it, and you were like, uh no.

1376
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 8: Everyone raised your hand. If you're afraid of open spaces,

1377
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 8: and if you're not.

1378
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 1: Don't raise your hand, don't raise that. I'm just seeing

1379
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: if anyone here is afraid of open spaces. Yeah, because

1380
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: if he's afraid of open spaces, that maybe you could

1381
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: have had like some curtains around them.

1382
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could make a little uh yeah, it's usually

1383
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: the other way around.

1384
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 8: I would say mm hmmm, because he's been presumably in

1385
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 8: the closet for so long, so he doesn't.

1386
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you think he'd like to be in open spaces?

1387
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: It's gate joke. Would you like to be out?

1388
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: You know?

1389
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: That's like really like I'm confused there, Yeah.

1390
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: What's you tell? What's the me? Or he's like, this

1391
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: is my friend Valentino, Oh she's an ally? Yeah, Ally?

1392
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 5: I lie.

1393
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: There we go.

1394
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: Consensus not the ale. Commenters tell OP to send them

1395
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: a money request. Commenters by OP or comments by OP

1396
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: on why Frank was telling Ed sorry? On why Frank

1397
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: wasn't telling Ed to shut up. Frank has always been

1398
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: the quietest. I don't know why he didn't say anything

1399
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: in my defense, because I'd never want him to think

1400
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: I didn't support him.

1401
01:03:59,880 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 6: Ed.

1402
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: It seemed cool at four. Ed seemed cool at first.

1403
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: Paying for dinner at a pricey place we ate at

1404
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: one night, but everything went downhill after that. I did

1405
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: my best to ignore both of them after the blow up.

1406
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: The cabin had enough beds to sleep eight people, two

1407
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: on the couch, four on the twin beds, and two

1408
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: in the master. This was my fault because I didn't

1409
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 2: think about it until we got to the cabin. I

1410
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: incorrectly assumed Eva would continue to sleep on the couch

1411
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: and Ed would take one of the spare twin beds, which, honestly, yeah,

1412
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: maybe that was an incorrect assumption. But also if they

1413
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: wanted something different, they should have said, can we find

1414
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: a different place?

1415
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Expectations, dude, I bet you ten bucks this happened

1416
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: in Pigeon Forge or Gatlinburg. What. There's just a lot

1417
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: of cabins in Gatlenburg and Pigeons that.

1418
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: You're just naming a place where they're probably at. Okay,

1419
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: it was late and everyone wanted to sleep. My girlfriend

1420
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: was getting annoyed with me for keeping everyone up, so

1421
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: I ended up just sleeping on the couch like she wanted.

1422
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 2: Eva ended up sleeping in the laft by herself, so

1423
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 2: she was okay, But yeah, the whole thing sucked all around.

1424
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: Eva usually sleeps on the couch so she won't have

1425
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: to share a room with a guy. The couch sleeps too,

1426
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: and since my girlfriend and I still wanted to sleep

1427
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 2: in the same bed, the guy suggested it. The other

1428
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: two rooms only have two tiny beds. Eva ended up

1429
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: sleeping alone in the loft while Jay and Liam slept

1430
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: in the downstairs bedroom. I think they thought it was

1431
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: better than us sleeping separately. I'm still mad at them

1432
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: for not agreeing with me on the spot. If Frank

1433
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: and Ed pay the difference for the master, they didn't.

1434
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm not speaking to Frank right now. There's room for

1435
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: eight people to sleep just fine, so I didn't think

1436
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: about it. We usually split based on who has the

1437
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: best room. My girlfriend and I pay about forty percent

1438
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: of the total cost since the master also has its

1439
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: own bathroom.

1440
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

1441
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: Eva pays ten percent since she doesn't get an actual bed,

1442
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: and the guys each pay about sixteen percent. Eva's always

1443
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: been fine on the couch. I've slept on it before

1444
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: and it's more comfortable than my bed back home. Also,

1445
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: before my girlfriend and I started dating, Eva and her

1446
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: share the masters, so they get up privacy while four

1447
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: guys slept wherever. I could have handled it better, but

1448
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: these changes were all very last minute, after everything had

1449
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: been booked. I expected Ed and Frank to share one

1450
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: of the twin rooms and be done with it. We

1451
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: paid extra for the master. They did not. They left

1452
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: a few days early, so we got it back. For

1453
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: the last two days of the trip, Girlfriend and I

1454
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: slept on the couch, Liam and Jay spent sorry. Liam

1455
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: and Jay slept in the downstair bedroom with two beds,

1456
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: and Eva slept by herself in the loft. I'd only

1457
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: spend time with Ed if he apologizes and pays me back.

1458
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: They ignored me the rest of the trip, as I

1459
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 2: ignored them if Frank paid for other things he did.

1460
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: We went out to eat as a group two more times,

1461
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: lunch and dinner, before it became too awkward. On the

1462
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 2: third day, he went out once to get more basic

1463
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: groceries for everyone drinks, snacks, stuff to make sandwiches, and

1464
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 2: after that we all did our own thing for meals.

1465
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: Agreeing with you that this tradition will need to change

1466
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: when and if more couples eventually come. Ed joined after

1467
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: the cabin had already been booked and I incorrectly assumed

1468
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: he'd be okay sleeping at a twin bed in the

1469
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: same room as Frank. Before my girlfriend and I got together,

1470
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: she and Eva had exclusive use of the master bedroom

1471
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 2: for privacy. If anyone else in the group wanted it,

1472
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: they could pay with My girlfriend and I paid for

1473
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: it and we'd sleep in the other room. This has

1474
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: worked for us for five plus years. Again, if they

1475
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: wanted something different, they should have talked about it and

1476
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: gotten a different place I was.

1477
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 8: And I'm assuming they go to the same kind of

1478
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 8: same cabin. Yeah, that's just weird.

1479
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: The times that I've gone with like John and Sam

1480
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: out to places, we just kind of looked there and like, okay,

1481
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, couples get kind of first Pick, then Sam

1482
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: and then whoever else you know after that, and that's

1483
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: kind of like the expectation of it. But this is

1484
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: really weird. I don't know. And is it because of

1485
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: the new person that came along that has caused all this?

1486
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's because Frank's boyfriend came along, but like

1487
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 2: literally caused all this problem, like when they were all

1488
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: the all the problems when they got there.

1489
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, that makes me think of a deeper issue within

1490
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 8: the friend group.

1491
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I fought a little crazy trying to type out

1492
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: realm assignments in a way that made sense. Lol. This

1493
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: is the fifth version of this post. Update they get

1494
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 2: their money back. I think that you need to ask

1495
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: for your money. I think you need to talk to

1496
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: your other friends, talk to your girlfriend about this, because

1497
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: back there, no one, no one had your back there,

1498
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: like you guys paid for more. And I think you

1499
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: could have a conversation with Frank. But but yeah, he

1500
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 2: needs to apologize.

1501
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 8: Frank's the new one, right, the one Frank. I would

1502
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 8: definitely talk to Frank. Frank, Dude, that kind of wasn't cool.

1503
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 8: Expect you to stay for the whole time. Kind of

1504
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 8: bullied me into taking this and that didn't pay that much.

1505
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, speed up front update.

1506
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe I should do something like this to you

1507
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 8: to see if you'd ever be up front with me,

1508
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 8: bully me, just like, do something like this until I

1509
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 8: confront you, and then like she confronts me, like a

1510
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 8: good job, and then I give you a little extra money.

1511
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: You were like, good job, this was all a tist.

1512
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: Take the money kid to go buy yourself some nice

1513
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 2: you passed update. I had some people ask so I

1514
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: wanted to update. Thanks to everyone who commented. I realized

1515
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: I needed a bit of distance from this group for

1516
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: not having my back. Yeah. On the money issue, I

1517
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 2: spent some time trying to work out the cost breakdown

1518
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: since many people asked about the numbers. All prices have

1519
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 2: been converted to US dollars. The total cost for the

1520
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 2: seven night cabins day was a thousand and forty sorry,

1521
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: a thousand and seven hundred and forty four dollars. Okay.

1522
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 2: My girlfriend and I covered half of that three point

1523
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: five nights, and the other half was split between Frank,

1524
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 2: Liam and j Eva. Paid for gas. She drives a

1525
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: van for work, so she drove us all up, which

1526
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: comes to about one hundred and ninety nine dollars. Ed

1527
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: paid for three meals and snacks, which came to two

1528
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty dollars one hundred and fifty seven dollars

1529
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 2: for the first meal and seventy three dollars for snacks

1530
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 2: and two fast food runs. What everyone paid me four

1531
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty six dollars, Girlfriend four hundred and thirty

1532
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,839
Speaker 2: six dollars, Frank two hundred ninety point sixty seven dollars,

1533
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: Liam two hundred ninety point sixty seven dollars, Jay another

1534
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: two hundred ninety point sixty seven dollars, EVA one hundred

1535
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 2: ninety nine dollars ED two thirty, so ED covered almost

1536
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: the cost of one night, but it was significantly less

1537
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 2: than my girlfriend and I paid for the Master. The

1538
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: six of us have been going on. The six of

1539
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: us has been going to the same cabin for five years,

1540
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: and before my girlfriend and I got together, she and

1541
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 2: Eva used the Master. The others are more than welcome

1542
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 2: to use the Master if they pay what my girlfriend

1543
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: and I do, which I see now might not be

1544
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: super fair to them since we're the only couple in

1545
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: the group so that we can afford it more easily.

1546
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: But I'm I mean, if they wanted, I don't think that. Yeah,

1547
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that's not fair. If like, I don't know,

1548
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, that doesn't mean like its two people,

1549
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 2: come on, guys, go on, like many said to do.

1550
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: I texted Frank and asked him to pay me and

1551
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 2: my girlfriend for one night's day on the trip two

1552
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety dollars. It might have been a little

1553
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: under but I didn't want to argue anymore, and my

1554
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 2: girlfriend told me to sort this out and drop the issue.

1555
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: Frank paid me a few days later and asked if

1556
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: we could meet so he could explain what happened at

1557
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: our local bomb. Okay, okay, at least he paid it.

1558
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: So there's more behind the scenes.

1559
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: I was to see Ed there when my girlfriend and

1560
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: I arrived. It took some time for the conversation to start,

1561
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,879
Speaker 2: but Ed eventually told us his relationship with his parents

1562
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: had been rocky due to his spicy due to his identity.

1563
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: A few months before the cabin trip, he brought Frank

1564
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 2: home to meet them for the first time, and his

1565
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: parents made them sleep in separate rooms. Ed said his

1566
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: folks imply that he and Frank would be punted out

1567
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: if they didn't. He said that when I refused to

1568
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: let them use the master bedroom, it brought up those

1569
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: bad feelings, and he misdirected his anger at me.

1570
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: Okay, oh my gosh, you made it seem like your

1571
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: parents were homophobic.

1572
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,879
Speaker 2: They were, No, they weren't. Yeah, he said, the parents

1573
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: like wouldn't let them sleep in the same room because

1574
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,440
Speaker 2: they wouldn't recognize their relationship.

1575
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: I thought it was my parents were used to be

1576
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: in a different.

1577
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: Room no, I think that they were being like, wait

1578
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: right back, read back his parents show Oops, I am no.

1579
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: I was talking to him.

1580
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 2: His parents made them sleep in separate rooms. His ed said,

1581
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: his folks imply that he and Frank would be punted

1582
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: out if they didn't.

1583
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about them not.

1584
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's implying. I think that he's implying

1585
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: that there they weren't support of But regardless, really it

1586
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter whether or not it was, doesn't give

1587
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: you any excuse to be like, oh, Pete, you were

1588
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: being It made me feel like you were being homophobic

1589
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: in this situation. Like one they were in the same room.

1590
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: They were gonna be in the same room. They were

1591
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: to be in separate breads, but like, I don't know,

1592
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: push them together, dude, literally push them together.

1593
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, uh, you were going to be in the same

1594
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 8: room and his girlfriend or not your mom and dad.

1595
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 5: They're not your.

1596
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: Mom and dad. They're people who paid more for a

1597
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: room you've chose that that does not give you, does

1598
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 2: not give you a I don't totally buy the explanation,

1599
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: nor would I not the full extent of it, but

1600
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: I can understand how not being allowed to share a

1601
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: bed might bring up bad memories frohim. That's not what happened.

1602
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: For Frank's sake, I agreed to let it go and

1603
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 2: told them I appreciated the apology, but I still need space.

1604
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to pick up where we left off.

1605
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 2: My friends usually talk about taking another trip in November

1606
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,879
Speaker 2: at this time, but I think I'll find somewhere closer

1607
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: to go with my girlfriend so I don't have to

1608
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: deal with this group drama again. I'm still not entirely

1609
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 2: over her not having my back either, so nothing's in

1610
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 2: the works right now.

1611
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 8: Thanks Again, she seems to be just the people pleaser,

1612
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 8: which I have come to the consensus that being a

1613
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 8: people pleaser is manipulative.

1614
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree.

1615
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I got a lot there, Yeah, there are

1616
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: a lot.

1617
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see if there are any comments, okay

1618
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 2: that are irrelevant.

1619
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 8: I think I just I don't know. It's just I

1620
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 8: feel like it's wrong that Frank put this on Ope,

1621
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 8: Like what the heck? This isn't this isn't what it's

1622
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 8: I'm not your parents, dude, Like, come on, we're friends.

1623
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:30,879
Speaker 8: We're supposed to have a good time.

1624
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 2: At this, Like be an adult.

1625
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, separated.

1626
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 8: Come on, But there's a little bit, a little bit

1627
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 8: more from Ope, some more comments to finish the story off.

1628
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: There is a little bit left. But yeah, I think

1629
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: it seems like you've kind of solved this. It seems

1630
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: like Frank's a little bit of a pushover when it

1631
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: comes to Ed. But yeah, don't let Ed walk all

1632
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: over you. He's new to the group. He doesn't get

1633
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: to you and say whatever he wants.

1634
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: Oh, tell him, tell Ed out of here, add them out.

1635
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 2: Of here here. Yeah, no, not cool, not cool. Mary R.

1636
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: Says it's a cop out for the behavior and you

1637
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: need to have a combo with her. And everyone was tired,

1638
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 2: but what they did was rude and childish. Yeah, it's

1639
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 2: like everyone was tired, tired, but that went odd for

1640
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 2: a couple of days, Like they they insisted on being

1641
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: there for four days and.

1642
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 8: This is just like I was tired. Yeah, and then

1643
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 8: they just kind of ignored each other. I don't know,

1644
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 8: if I have a tip with my friends, I'm not

1645
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 8: going to ignore them on a.

1646
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: Trip for a week.

1647
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird.

1648
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: That is weird. It really hard to do.

1649
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 2: It's so hard to do. It's so hard to do yeah,

1650
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: response there oh. Nina Nilsen says it wasn't about not

1651
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: sleeping together. It was about sleeping in the room you

1652
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: pay for exactly as a queer. He's using the parent

1653
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 2: thing as an excuse. Absolutely, he's using it as an

1654
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: excuse because he just like came up with a thing

1655
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: that would make him look better and would make make

1656
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 2: them feel bad for him. Of comments by op on

1657
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: why his girlfriend didn't have his back, she told me

1658
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 2: she was tired and that I should stop waffling on

1659
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: the issue to make up my mind if I'm upset

1660
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 2: about the room and want my money back, or just

1661
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: let it go, because I was making the entire group uncomfortable.

1662
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: We were friends in this group before we started dating.

1663
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 2: It feels like she sometimes puts the good of group

1664
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 2: above our relationship. It was a long day. We left

1665
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 2: our city early in the morning, drove for almost the

1666
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: whole day, ate dinner, and got to the cabin late

1667
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: at night. She and everyone else told me they wanted

1668
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: to sleep. How far away the cabin is sixteen hours total,

1669
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: eight hours there and eight hours back. If his girlfriend

1670
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: paid her share or didn't know it was that much,

1671
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: she paid a portion, She's still at school, and I

1672
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 2: covered a bit of her share. She knows how much

1673
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 2: the room costs because she paid her part in full before.

1674
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: Someone commented the apology is a lie. I might be

1675
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: a huge idiot, but I'm not sure why he'd lie

1676
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: about it to save face. I don't think he's trying

1677
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 2: to make me see him in a better light, because

1678
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: I made it pretty clear what I thought about him

1679
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: when we argued on night one at the trip. I'm

1680
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: not sure Ed knows exactly how much we spent. I

1681
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 2: asked Frank directly for the money, and he paid without

1682
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: fighting back. ED would probably know about Eva paying for gas,

1683
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 2: but he might have assumed my girlfriend and I pay

1684
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: a little bit more for the master, not almost fifty percent.

1685
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: I won't be seeing him if he's at any social

1686
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: things we do. I'm avoiding the group as a whole

1687
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: right now. We like it because it's cheap and in

1688
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 2: a nice area. The drive there is a pain in

1689
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 2: the butt, but it's worked for five years. It sucks,

1690
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 2: but this is probably the last time we'll go. Wow,

1691
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 2: and that, folks, is the end of that story.

1692
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys got any travel plans coming up?

1693
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 6: Me?

1694
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: No, Just like oh, everyone else, everyone else in the chat.

1695
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: I mean I do in a month.

1696
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 4: I do going to Chicago about a month and a half,

1697
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: month and a half.

1698
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 5: Riley's so excited for me, right y.

1699
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: I really don't want you to leave.

1700
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 2: Don't leave.

1701
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 8: Kean has made my life so much better and I

1702
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 8: don't want him to ever go.

1703
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 1: And I might cry, I might cry.

1704
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: Don't worry, you have him.

1705
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: You said, Okay, I'm still gonna cry. But you said

1706
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: a month, right, what month and a half? Month and

1707
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: a half. Now you can leave. You can leave and go.

1708
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: It's fine, we can. We can find replaces for you.

1709
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: Really,