1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: dot Com, the Radio plus mobile, last, and on your radio. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pellette's stocks are heading for their longest losing 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: streaks since February, down four in a row, this amid 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: growing uncertainty about the UK's future in the European Union. 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: We will have more on that topic the Brexit vote 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: coming up in just a moment. Also, investors are awaiting 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: tomorrow's Federal Reserve announcement. So here's where we stand. The 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: SMP five hundred index down nine now at two thousand, 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: sixty nine, a drop of five tenths of one percent. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Then ASTAT Composite Index down twenty one points to forty six, 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: That is a drop of five tenths of one percent down. 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Industrials down ninety two points to seventeen thousand, six hundred forty, 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: a drop of five tenths of one percent. Gold up 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: a dollar forty benounced to twelve eighty eight, a gain 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: there of point one percent. Crude oil West Texas in 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: immediate down fifty three cents for five barrel, down one 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: point one percent, Brent down one and a half percent 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: to forty nine dollars and sixty cents. I'm Charlie Palett 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: and that's a Bloomberg business flash. The Brexit vote on 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Brexit. Yes June, the twenty three voters in 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom will go to the polls to determine 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: whether they will remain in the European Union. And right 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: now in London there is a debate going on with 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Boris and Johnson, former Mayor of London. He is debating 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: the Brexit vote. He of course for the Brexit vote. 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: He is debating Alex Salmon of the Scottish National Party, 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: which formerly had voted to remain part of the United Kingdom. 30 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Here to tell us more about this is John mickel Twite. 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: He is editor in chief of Bloomberg Editorial. John, thank 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: you very much for being here. Um, I wonder if 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: you could just describe a little bit about you are 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: interview with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: thoughts about Brexit. Well, the interview with Blair is interesting 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: from this perspective. On the one hand, m Blair said 37 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: that he expected Britain to remain in the U and 38 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: to be fair to him, that was before a stream 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: of very negative polls, but the same token, I think 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: it'd be fair to say, and I don't think he 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: would dispute this too much. A lot of parts of 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: what he might regard as Britain are slightly coming to 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: bits at the moment. You have, um, the sense of 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: that sort of third way we're all together, center left 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: politics that seems to be coming part. There's something very 46 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: similar to the trumpets about the brexitters. Um, there is 47 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: great disquiet with the idea of globalization, whether it's through immigration, 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: through elites making too much money, through free trade, all 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: those things. You know, Britain is arguably the most pro 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: free trade place in the world, but they're still particular 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: disputes that immigration. And then at the end of it, 52 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's just that sense of things that the 53 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: politics as we thought we knew them beginning to pray 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: a bit, and it could all be all right, It 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: could all be fine in the end. Most people, including me, 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: still expect remain to win, but it's it's very very close. 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Is this an instance where anybody who's in the government 58 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: now formally, I mean, is there a kind of more 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: unity internal there's even less. There's massively less unity because 60 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: the parties are in the following state, the Conservatives, which 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: are the traditionally euroskeptic party. There you have, I think 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: it's a hundred and something of Cameron's MPs all fighting 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: to leave. Labor is meant to be the party that 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: is sort of fully behind staying that. It's leader Jeremy Corbyn, 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: extremely left wing man by Americans. I haven't talked to 66 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: him recently, but he is. He is definitely off the left, 67 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: but he's also part of the old eurosceptic left. He's 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: quite elderly in these respects, and he you know, he 69 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: has been at the best, I think, a very lukewarm 70 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: supporter of staying. In his speeches tend to be saying 71 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: things along the lines of the European Union is useless 72 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: at this, terrible at that, awful at this, but I 73 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: suppose you better remain in it. And strangely that that 74 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: appeal doesn't really seem to be working. So you have 75 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: labor not really helping and and the vote will rely 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: a lot, I think, on on labor voters if it's 77 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: going to be remained, coming out to do it and 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: The other big problem is the young, who are the 79 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: other people who in paper look as if they support Remain, 80 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: but we have no evidence that they're definitely going to 81 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: get to the polls, whilst the old who want to 82 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: leave definitely will. The latest Paul the decision to leave 83 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: has is at forty six percent, an increase of three, 84 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: Remain is at forty one point three, decline of about 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: seven tenth of a percent. In your conversation with the 86 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: former Prime Minister Tony Blair, you spoke a lot He's 87 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: book about social media and how that can influence not 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: only this but the entire political discussion in a country. 89 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: Expand on that. Yeah, and there's a bit of that. 90 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at it's possible. I've got 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: friends and indeed relations are on the Leave side, and 92 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: you can you can sit in from Leave um Land 93 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: in the same way as you can sit in Trump 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: Land or for that matter, in Saunders Land. And it 95 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: means that you can get most of your information from 96 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: pundits who are intrinsically opposed to the European Union in 97 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: its many ways. Um. It means also, you know, it's 98 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: not just obscure websites. This morning, the Sun, the biggest 99 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: tabloid in Britain, came out firmly behind Leave, and that's 100 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: interesting on two counts. One, it is the most powerful 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: sort of political voice in Britain. Rupert Murdoch has never 102 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: been a great support of the European Union. It's proprietor. 103 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: But the other thing is Rupert Murdoch doesn't genuinely generally 104 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: like backing losers, and so the fact that he feels 105 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: confident enough to come out in in favor of leading 106 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: is again another straw in the wind. And at the 107 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: moment there aren't many good straws in the wind for 108 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: the remain thing other than the instinct amongst most of 109 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: the commentary at that probably in the end people will 110 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: will be sufficiently frightened by what leave could mean. In 111 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: my view, justifiably well they will say I want to stay. 112 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: We had a story recently this week on on Lubrick 113 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: News the quantity of just modeling for a maxioma coming 114 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: out with research which suggests there be pretty quickly in 115 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: equities uk A crees in globle markets if the lead 116 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: vote goes through, because it would create so much a people. 117 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: I mean, what happens then I think that's that's it, 118 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: and that if you were going to explain to the 119 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: leavers John Mcolthwaite, who you're more of a remainer, what 120 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: would what would be the So that's the difficult point. 121 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: On the one hand, um Leave campaign has gained from 122 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: the idea that the remainders have tended to exaggerate, UM 123 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the horrors of if prison did this, and I think 124 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: they're right in this respect, is that it's got a 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: pretty strong, big economy. Um, if it leaves the Open Union, 126 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: it's still houses are still going to stand. There is 127 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: still going to be something there. Um. On the other hand, 128 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: I think it is possible to say that the negative 129 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: consequences of leaving could actually potentially be quite high. You 130 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: just have to look at all these things like maybe 131 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: Scotland leaves the United Kingdom, maybe other bits the Union 132 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: begin to come to bits and you have this immense 133 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: As you've said, declining your currency is not a not 134 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: a small thing to consider. It's certain. Listen, who thought 135 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: we thought we'd be talking about the better reserve? First? 136 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Ye had two day meeting. I'm sorry to know everyone 137 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: in the world is looking at that Brexit vote on June. 138 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: This is taking stock on Bloombird Radio. Coming up on 139 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: taking stock. While the search for safe haven puts yields 140 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: under pressure, there's been a big sell off in the 141 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: bonds of Greece and Portugal. Let's talk about what happens 142 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: to those countries next