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Speaker 1: your day. Hey, we get Greg Cosell. We might as

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Speaker 1: well start it now. Greg Cosell stop by in one

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Speaker 1: hour from today. We put them off for about twenty

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Speaker 3: We do it on Thursdays. Jamac you used to be.

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Speaker 1: most of the ninety nine percent of those things did

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Speaker 1: I had told friends, I said, I like the McIntyre

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Speaker 1: site because you can tell he's like he can break stories.

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Speaker 1: He's like serious, he's not doing silly stuff. Like there's

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Speaker 1: like serious stories here. It's sourced, And I want to

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Speaker 1: a blog. A sphere can be just nonsense and whimsical,

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Speaker 1: and yours wasn't. You were breaking stories. And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of a theme today for quarterback. So I saw this

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Speaker 1: headline from Archie Mann and he says arch will not

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Speaker 1: turn pro next season. He'll be at Texas for the

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Speaker 1: next two years. Yeah, that's what you have to say.

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Speaker 1: If he beats Ohio State in Columbus, wins the Heisman

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Speaker 1: would be really bad business to stay in college. And

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Speaker 1: I know almost every manning pretty well. They're good at business,

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Speaker 1: college sports for truly gifted athletes, like a Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 1: It's like that first really cool apartment you live in

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Speaker 1: don't want to share walls or the pool, and you

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Speaker 1: forget about it really quickly. Arch Manning made six point

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Speaker 1: five million last year at Texas nil. Reportedly, cam Ward

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Speaker 3: You went a forty two million dollar loan? Hook?

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Speaker 1: This is the classic Mannings saying the right thing and

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Speaker 1: a president. Keep it to yourself, Lebron Mannings, Mahomes, Brady,

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Speaker 1: And the Manning family is American Football Royalty. So this

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Speaker 1: and if I have time. Arch Manning. If he's as

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Speaker 1: I know Cooper, I know Eli, I know Peyton, I

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Speaker 1: know Archie, and I don't know Arch. But Sark talking

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Speaker 1: if you described Peyton Manning you would say intense. Bill

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like the speeding tickets, but they

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Speaker 1: have kids. You're a grown up, you're a vice president.

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Speaker 1: You're not doing it quarterback in the NFL. It's almost unfair.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is twenty seven, he acts forty seven. I've

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Speaker 1: he is the best quarterback I've ever seen at the podium.

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Speaker 1: He surpasses the second best I've ever seen. Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: They're like accountants should bring a briefcase. And this is

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Speaker 1: Who's funny. Jamis Winston was funny. Drew lock was lighthearted.

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Speaker 1: but he was playful. Drew Locke remember that piece of video.

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott his rookie year. It may have been preseason

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott understands. I'm the cowboy quarterback. I am always on.

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Speaker 1: Years ago, in the Patriots building, they did a little test.

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Speaker 1: It matters, and it's unfair. I don't want my quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: to be, as Miles Garrett said, fun lighthearted. I'm not

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Speaker 1: interested in lighthearted at all. Jamis Winston the best thing

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Speaker 3: It was funny. He also threw thirty picks a year.

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Speaker 3: It's not fair.

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Speaker 1: But the Harbaughs, Nick Saban Sean Payton are almost offensively intense.

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Speaker 1: I don't want my quarterbacks to be fun, lighthearted in

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Speaker 1: interested in it silly. There's so many things pedigree, size, accuracy,

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Speaker 1: Because if you do that and people see it, and

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Speaker 1: this about Tua. Tua's grown up Tyreek Hill isn't Hurts

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable. When people say Lamar Jackson he gets tight

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, Yeah, damn righty does because he cares

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Speaker 1: so much. Lamar Jackson gets furious at Lamar Jackson. It's

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Speaker 1: gets tight in the playoffs, and I do think Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning did for years. If the biggest fault is the

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Speaker 1: dude is really intense, sign me up for that. Sign

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Speaker 1: me up for Lamar Jackson and early Peyton Manning. But

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Speaker 1: there's that Drew Locke video Keeping a Real Man. I

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Speaker 1: got the vibes and y'all loved it, and I couldn't

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Speaker 3: That at home.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't like my GM doing it. I wouldn't like

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Speaker 1: There was a little piece of video with Shadur and

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Speaker 1: Flacco here in camp. And it's not the end of

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Speaker 1: the world. Nobody's saying it is. As I always say,

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Speaker 1: everything's something, nothing's everything. But remember that little piece of video.

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Speaker 1: Do we have the sound up on that? When Flacco

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Speaker 1: and Shaduur and Shadeur's asking him about dancing.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I've ever heard a public dance

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Speaker 6: You know you've heard of the fun uncle, the funkal.

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Speaker 1: You get your cardio in. Get your cardio in. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: I understand that I always had a thing with golf.

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Speaker 1: Incredible Great Raids, None of the Ball. So I was

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Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's dive right into it. Josh Allen, best

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't shock me at all. Every scout I

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Speaker 1: had in this league that I talked to, you thought

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Speaker 1: this kid was in a day one, immediate starter, year two,

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Speaker 1: buying for Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 6: Your point about having Super Bowls and being able to

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Speaker 6: do this is good. Do you remember twenty twenty three

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Speaker 6: the Detroit Lions had two first round picks.

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Speaker 3: They drafted a running back at Gal Gibbs.

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Speaker 6: That pick was pillary, unbelievable, Jack Campbell like an inside

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Speaker 6: linebacker at eighteen, and.

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Speaker 3: The lines were crushed. Everybody crushed him. Now it has

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Speaker 3: worked out, but at the time they took a lot

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Speaker 3: of heat. Eagles took no heat for this pick. No,

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Speaker 3: no good point.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've said this before, is that when they

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Speaker 1: made those moves, I think you and I said, is

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Speaker 1: that we get I'm not saying there aren't positions that like.

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Speaker 1: I think I can usually get safeties in the second, third,

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Speaker 1: fourth round. Seattle this year got a great safety in

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Speaker 1: the second round. He's an amazing player from South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: I think historically you can get safeties in a lot

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Speaker 1: of places and running backs. But folks, if you have

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Speaker 1: a player that you like, Jamair Gibbs is an insane

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Speaker 1: talent in the SEC.

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Speaker 3: The first guy could never bring him down. Just pick him.

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in possession. Remember when Quentin Nelson

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Speaker 1: went guard to the Colts, It's like, oh, interior offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: He's been first or second best guard for the last

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Speaker 1: seven years in the league.

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Speaker 6: Again, winning covers it all up. Baltimore, Ravens, Colin they

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Speaker 6: got Super Bowls. Hardbo, everybody loves him. They took Kyle Hamilton, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: fourteenth overall safety, what do you And then this year

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Speaker 6: they took Malachi Starks and they're like, safety two safety,

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Speaker 6: what are.

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Speaker 3: You doing in what?

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Speaker 1: Same year they took a center and a safety in

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Speaker 1: round one and everybody's like, whoa, they're both Pro bowlers.

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Speaker 1: Just go get the best players.

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Speaker 3: Get the best players.

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Speaker 6: The smart teams do that, right, final story, Colin is

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Speaker 6: your guy. Sean McVeigh remember a few years ago he

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Speaker 6: kind of in the preseason when he said, I'm sitting

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Speaker 6: all my starters. Well, the trend is turning completely around.

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Speaker 6: We've gotten word that Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, cam Ward

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Speaker 6: all will play in.

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Speaker 3: Preseason Week one.

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Speaker 6: That was not happening thanks to McVeigh a few years ago.

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Speaker 6: Now justin Fields of my Jets said he wants to play.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. The Colts are.

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Speaker 6: Going to have Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: A lot of starters playing.

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Speaker 6: In the preseason, specifically quarterbacks. I don't think you like

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Speaker 6: this trend, but that's just a guess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I Joe Burrow always worries me about previous injuries.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know. I just I think I'm if

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Speaker 3: college football.

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Speaker 1: If Texas and Ohio State can play a game with

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Speaker 1: no preseason, with limitations on practice hours, college kids who

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Speaker 1: are nineteen twenty twenty one pro football guys need a preseason.

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Speaker 1: Why these are adults limitations on practice time? Most of

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Speaker 1: these guys have played multiple NFL seasons. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: fan of preseason, and I also think it looks bad

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Speaker 1: for the league.

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Speaker 3: There's nobody at the.

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Speaker 1: Games there, it's just backups. I've said before, if I

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Speaker 1: ran the league, I would get it to one game

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Speaker 1: and I would play. I would just play because I

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Speaker 1: think what I've heard from coaches and execs, they like

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Speaker 1: the inner squad practice of the here day the Rams

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Speaker 1: and Cowboys played, and you're still doing vanilla stuff, but

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Speaker 1: you can kind of manipulate it, unlike a game where

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Speaker 1: you have to play. There's a clock, there's officials. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a preseason fan. I just I watch some of it,

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Speaker 1: but I don't I would not play a lot of start.

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Speaker 3: You're looking for a why, I think is what I

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Speaker 3: heard there.

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Speaker 6: So listen closely to the quarterbacks who are playing preseason

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Speaker 6: week one.

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Speaker 3: There is a common thread.

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Speaker 6: Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, cam Ward all play for teams

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Speaker 6: that have not been in the playoffs. Okay, they need

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow needs a good start, like he's pissed about

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Speaker 6: last year. And Zach Taylor Kyler Murray is a pivotal

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Speaker 6: year for him. Okay, second year with Gannet. You don't

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Speaker 6: want to Ganne to get fired. And Kim Wore rookie

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Speaker 6: coming out of the gate. Then you got Justin Fields.

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Speaker 6: Colin this is like his last chance to be a

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Speaker 6: starter in the league. Justin Fields, I would play in

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Speaker 6: the preseason.

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't care if he doesn't want to.

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Speaker 6: You better, this is your last shot and then you

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Speaker 6: know the Colts Anthony Richardson, this is a big prove

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Speaker 6: it year. I do think like a Mahomes No.

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Speaker 1: I think the guys I would play for sure, Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Absolutely, I'm gonna play I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: playing Dak Prescott in the preseason. I'm gonna play Milton.

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Speaker 1: I'm not playing Dakasnaw Jalen Hurts. I don't want Jalen

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Speaker 1: anywhere near the I don't want Lamar Herbert, C J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 1: I would play JJ McCarthy. I would play Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: some snaps. I wouldn't even play Jayden Daniels. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: play Dave Jayden Daniels. I would play Drake May a

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Speaker 1: couple of series Max. Yeah, I mean there's about four

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Speaker 1: guys I would absolutely. I'm not sure i'd play Joe Burrell.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with.

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Speaker 3: You, I don't know if I would.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just think the Kyler Murray thing is interesting.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm kind of bullish on Arizona this year.

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Speaker 6: He don't want to start like.

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Speaker 3: One in four. Okay, this is a huge year for

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. Come, it's a big one. We'll see Jamack

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Speaker 3: of the news.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: Greg co Sell at the top of our number two.

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Speaker 1: I got a couple of good rants here. I don't

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Speaker 1: even I don't even think I want to give him away.

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Speaker 1: I think they're just it's just too much to throw away,

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Speaker 1: very very good segments. But I didn't see this the

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Speaker 1: commanders and Terry McLaurin. No I have said, uh I

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Speaker 1: pay Terry. Terry signed a contract a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: But it's time for the big one. I think he's

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Speaker 1: an elite. He's amor on Saint Brown. He's really an

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Speaker 1: elite receiver. And so I have loved everything Washington has done.

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Speaker 1: But it's really fun. We've talked about this windows you

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Speaker 1: see it now in the NBA now like seven different

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Speaker 1: champions in seven years. The Denver Nuggets got old and

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Speaker 1: expensive really fast. Everybody loves Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City just

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Speaker 1: paid those three young guys eight hundred and twenty two

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Speaker 1: million combined. No more bench. These windows in the NFL close.

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Speaker 1: The Niners for three years in a row, had a

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Speaker 1: stacked roster. Now they're peeling off the funga and greenlaw

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Speaker 1: and they're good players. Debo's gone. They're good players getting

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Speaker 1: old fast. The Detroit Lions were like, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: just the beginning for the Detroit Lions. Now you lost

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Speaker 1: both great coordinators, you lost rag Now a Pro Bowl center,

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Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, your young studs, a couple

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Speaker 1: of them don't be getting paid here. So you can

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Speaker 1: look at Jadan Daniels, go, he's just going into year two,

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Speaker 1: Jadeen Daniels. The bargain is going to be Daniels the

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Speaker 1: Brinks truck in about two years because you're paying him early.

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Speaker 1: So and my take is he's healthy, he's young. Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: What if Kingsbury after this year leaves and you miss

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Speaker 1: on a coordinator or the one you want, turns you

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Speaker 1: down right. There's a lot of good quarterbacks in the league,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good coordinators. When you're a good offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: you don't leave a good situation. You can get a

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Speaker 1: head job. I mean, Cliff Kingsbury is a bit of

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Speaker 1: a gift. That's a way better than average offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: So this stuff gets I mean it strike when the

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Speaker 1: iron is hot. I don't I just sign him, get

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Speaker 1: it done, move on, do not waste September. I mean,

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Speaker 1: remember the Legion of Boom became the Legion of bust

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Speaker 1: about two years in. I thought that thing was gonna

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Speaker 1: last forever. Maybe I was a Seattle Homer. I thought,

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Speaker 1: we gotta, we gotta, we have it. I've said it

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Speaker 1: on the air ten time. We had a And all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, this guy comes in a division and

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Speaker 1: that guy leaves, and Russ and Pete and then Earl Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and then Russell makes a throw at the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and divides the locker room, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that that thing didn't work at all.

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Speaker 3: So I get it done.

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Speaker 1: Just everything Washington's done to this point, I've loved this.

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Speaker 3: All on thoughts I will be there. I talked to

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Speaker 3: Kevin naw yesterday. He's funny. I can't wait for it.

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Speaker 1: So one of the truths of dynasties is that part

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Speaker 1: of a dynasty is dominating those that are in nept

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Speaker 1: around you, giving you home field advantage and easy wins.

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Speaker 1: And so Travis Kelcey was talking about the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and you know, they got, they got for the second

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Speaker 1: time they got. They got absolutely blown out. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean it happens. You can dominate your conference or

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Speaker 1: your division, but when you go face the best team

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Speaker 1: from the utter division, you better be tight, and twice

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Speaker 1: they've had injuries on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: So here is Travis.

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Speaker 1: Kelce, just just moving off that awful Super Bowl loss.

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Speaker 4: I've thrown that thing in the trash.

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Speaker 3: I moved on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: I thought they'd habits sooner than then.

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Speaker 5: You can imagine I was pretty focused on this year

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Speaker 5: in the off season.

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Speaker 1: So I do not think Kansas City's I think Kansas

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Speaker 1: City the dynasty part is over. They may win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but I think their division's too good to

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Speaker 1: be a dynasty. And I'll give you an example when

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Speaker 1: when Nick Saban was at Alabama, LSU couldn't get the

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Speaker 1: right coach, Auburn couldn't get the right coach, Ole Miss

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Speaker 1: couldn't get the right coach. For most of it, Tennessee

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Speaker 1: couldn't get the right coach, and he dominated. But then

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Speaker 1: Georgia got Kirby Smart and then Texas came in with

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Speaker 1: Sark and Nick Saban didn't look as dominating. Same thing

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Speaker 1: happened to Urban at Florida when Nick Saban came in, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer was dominating, and then Nick Saban went to

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Speaker 1: a great program, and then Urban wasn't dominating. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at Lebron's dominance for eight nine, ten years

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Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference, he had to beat the Raptors

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Speaker 1: and the Pacers. He would go into the other conference,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have the same luck when you're facing the Warriors. Right,

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Speaker 1: same with Tom Brady. Brady's great But one of the

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Speaker 1: things that was never spoken about. The Colts used to

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Speaker 1: be in the Patriots Division. Then they left, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he got home field advantage almost every year. Anytime he

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Speaker 1: had to go to Denver, he would lose. He would

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Speaker 1: struggle in Denver. Brady the greatest ever. Oh Denver, that

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Speaker 1: wasn't the same. But because the Jets and the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: and the Bills for most of his stay were inept,

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Speaker 1: Brady would get it. He'd go five and one in

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Speaker 1: division or six and oh and so Brady gets home

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Speaker 1: field in cold weather, huge advantage. With the best defensive

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Speaker 1: coach of all time. All he had to do is

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Speaker 1: win a couple of playoff games because they get a bye. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you tell me Tom Brady and Bill Belichick with

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Speaker 1: an extra week to prepare at home and Fox in

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Speaker 1: their prime, Yeah, it's an advantage. They lost to the

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Speaker 1: Giants twice in Super Bowl. They lost the Philadelphia and

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. They weren't nearly as invincible on the

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Speaker 1: other side. But part of what they did is they

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Speaker 1: took advantage of the ineptitude of their division to get

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Speaker 1: home field advantage. And Kansas City deserves all the credit

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Speaker 1: in the world. They've taken advantage of Justin Herbert with

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Speaker 1: bad coaches, They've taken advantage of Denver and a rebuild,

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Speaker 1: and the Raiders in a perpetual rebuild.

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Speaker 3: They deserve credit for all of it.

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Speaker 1: But there's never been a division with four head coaches

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Speaker 1: that have been to a Super Bowl. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Raiders now have Tom Brady overseeing it, Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly,

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Speaker 1: and the very competent Geno Smith. Would you be shocked

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Speaker 1: if the Raiders split every series in the Vision?

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Speaker 3: I would not.

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Speaker 1: And bo Nicks Year two was Sean Payton. He made

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Speaker 1: the playoffs as a rookie. I mean, and they got money. Now,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City doesn't have the money to go buy Whufunga

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Speaker 1: in Greenlaw. Denver does so, and I'll give Kansas City

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Speaker 1: all the credit in the world. But last year five

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Speaker 1: of their wins in division, all of them won possession games.

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Speaker 1: Denver is going to be noticeably better. The Raiders are

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Speaker 1: going to be significantly better. And Jim Harbaugh's career year two,

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Speaker 1: everywhere he's ever been. Year one, he changes the culture,

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Speaker 1: Year two, he changes the personnel. He needs two years

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Speaker 1: of drafting, two years of free agency. I just saw

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Speaker 1: somebody the other day pick the Charters to win Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they will, but they'll be noticeably

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Speaker 1: better than last year when they just had too many

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Speaker 1: weak spots on the O line, a wide receiver at

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Speaker 1: tight end. They've solved a lot of those riddles. So

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Speaker 1: it's and here's the thing about dynasties is that and

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Speaker 1: I've said this about Mahomes. Mahomes only makes about three

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Speaker 1: plays a game, same with Michael Jordan. That's jaw dropping.

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Speaker 1: Michael was the best mid range player ever. And Mahomes

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable on layups, never misses them, doesn't miss layups.

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Speaker 1: That's ninety percent of the sport. Michael never missed the

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Speaker 1: open sixteen footer when he had to hit it, and

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Speaker 1: once or twice a game he'd stick his tongue out,

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Speaker 1: switch hands in mid air and you'd go, I've never

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Speaker 1: seen that before. But if you've been trailing by nine

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Speaker 1: points at that moment against the Lakers, would it.

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Speaker 3: Have mattered, right?

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Speaker 1: So, I mean it's a prime example is that nobody

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Speaker 1: hit Clayton Kershaw or Sandy Kofax in their prime. The

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Speaker 1: great hitters hit the number three starter, dominate the middle relievers,

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Speaker 1: and beat average closers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, go to the World.

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Speaker 1: Series last year Yankees and Dodgers. The Dodgers ate the

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Speaker 1: Yankee pitching alive, not Garrett Cole. They couldn't hit Garrett Cole.

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Speaker 1: The only time the Yankees looked like they were the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers equal were the two starts that Garrett Cole had

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Speaker 1: two starts, one earned run total against the team in

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Speaker 1: baseball the Dodgers. Nobody hits Garrett Cole when he's on.

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Speaker 1: Nobody hits Garrett Cole, and and Nick Saban just never

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Speaker 1: lost games he should have won. He could lose to

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, he could lose that one game to Auburn.

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Speaker 1: The special teams blunder. But so much of dynasties is

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Speaker 1: just taking care of the home games, taking care of business.

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Speaker 1: When Big Ben was in his prime, and the Steelers

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Speaker 1: were getting the Super Bowls. They owned Cleveland and they

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Speaker 1: owned Cincinnati. They didn't own Baltimore. They didn't known Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: They lost to Baltimore all the time. And we're losing

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Speaker 1: the crappy Bengals pre Burrow and weren't losing the Browns

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Speaker 1: very much.

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Speaker 3: So that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: J Mack Around the corner, J Max's hosting the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Around the corner is Greg Cosell.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: By the way, I've been percolating one of my spicier

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Speaker 6: takes for twenty twenty five. I'm gonna save it for

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Speaker 6: tomorrow when you're on the golf course with you know who,

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Speaker 6: whoever you're golfing with tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: But it's going to be a little spicy, all right.

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Speaker 1: I appreciates, right, I always appreciate you saving your best

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Speaker 1: material and not presenting it to the audience in in

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Speaker 1: you know, when I'm on I always i'm.

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Speaker 3: The comedian working you know, off Broadway or what have you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you and I, I think you and I

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Speaker 1: have both said this. The AFC West is the best

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Speaker 1: division in football, but it is easily the best coach

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Speaker 1: division of all time.

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Speaker 3: Even the coordinators are great. I mean, wait, the old.

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Speaker 1: Coordinators are Spags Chip Kelly jesse mentor I mean those

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Speaker 1: are those are three of the top coordinators in for

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Speaker 1: eight minutes. I mean, I don't know. I will say this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a reach. I don't think Kansas

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Speaker 1: City wins the division. I don't and I think they'll

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but I'm not sure right now. And

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Speaker 1: I this is going to be the hardest division to call.

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Speaker 1: Is Denver the best team in division?

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Speaker 3: Who's got the better roster? Denver as the city Denver? Okay,

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Speaker 3: better coach well and he reads the best coach.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but it's close though, it's not. You know, come on,

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Speaker 1: you would have both great. Yeah, the Peyton's got an

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Speaker 1: argument for number two or three or four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The big difference is at QUARTERBA.

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Speaker 1: I say, I say this, I think the roster is

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Speaker 1: better for Denver because I like Denver's offensive line over

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's and I think Green Lawn Hufunga are star players.

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Speaker 6: There's no debate Denver has a better roster. They're the

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Speaker 6: best roster in the division. Cout Denver is a tell

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Speaker 6: like seven roster.

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Speaker 3: In the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, I so I just I. And again,

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Speaker 1: part of dominating and being a dynasty is getting all

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Speaker 1: those good seeds and home playoff games.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Kansas City is getting