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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Catch John Batchelor weeknights from nine till

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Speaker 1: midnight on sevent ten.

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Speaker 2: Woor Now it's The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody starts right now here on The Clay and Buck Show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and we've got much to discuss

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Speaker 2: as always. The Manhattan District Attorney, I'm gonna be in

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Speaker 2: Manhattan next week for a couple of days. Manhattan District

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Speaker 2: Attorney says that he is himself fearful of crime on

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Speaker 2: the New York City subway system. That's which Clay and

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Speaker 2: I both want to say, Maybe you should find somebody

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Speaker 2: who can do something about that, mister District Attorney. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, maybe somebody should step up and clean up

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Speaker 2: the crime on the largest subway system in the United States.

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Speaker 2: We've also got CNN apologizing for misgendering trans influencer Dylan mulvaney.

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Speaker 2: This is fascinating because now you have I know it

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Speaker 2: might seem a little bit like who cares, but now

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Speaker 2: you have journalistic theoretically journalistic enterprises apologizing for being accurate,

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Speaker 2: which is that's a sign of something that is not

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Speaker 2: good my friends. Also, Clay put out a RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: versus Mitt Romney poll and we'll talk to you a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the results of that. Also, third party

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Speaker 2: possibility among the Democrats, and it effectively would hand the

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Speaker 2: presidency to the Republican front runner right now, Donald J. Trump.

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Speaker 2: So the third party possibility is something that we are

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Speaker 2: going to spend some time on. The polling with that

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Speaker 2: shows RFK Junior not going away in terms of at

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Speaker 2: least attention and support from a pretty sizable chunk of

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Speaker 2: Democrats and some Independents and even some even some Republicans.

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Speaker 2: So we'll discuss all that one. Definitely get you in

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Speaker 2: on that one too. Remember it's eight hundred two A

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Speaker 2: two two eight eight two and Clay, Clay, I did

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Speaker 2: we We nailed this one right, Like, I think we

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Speaker 2: were both very clear on this. I mean, I definitely

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Speaker 2: remember saying they have the same crack team of investigators

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Speaker 2: looking at the bag of cocaine in the White House

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Speaker 2: that they had on the leak from the Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: Dobbs decision, the leak of the General Flynn transcript. Under

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration, I don't know what else we put

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Speaker 2: in there. But they're they just you know, the they

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Speaker 2: tell us today they come out with sorry, guys, Secret

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Speaker 2: Service has no idea who left a baggie of cocaine

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Speaker 2: in what is supposed to be the most secure and

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Speaker 2: surveilled building, perhaps in the world, certainly in the United States,

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Speaker 2: the White House, right next to the Situation Room. The

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Speaker 2: fix is in clay, just like it was for Hunter

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Speaker 2: all along on the tax returns and everything else.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I don't care about people using cocaine. I

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Speaker 3: understand some of you out there, like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I am of the opinion that if you are an

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Speaker 3: adult and you want to do things, even if sometimes

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Speaker 3: they are on the bounds of legality, I just I

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Speaker 3: don't care, right, I understand some of you disagree, Go

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Speaker 3: that's fine, but let's leave aside. So I'm not even

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Speaker 3: focused on the morality angle of the drug use, okay,

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Speaker 3: because I just I really don't care. I think it's

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Speaker 3: significant if it's Hunter. I think it's significant if it's

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Speaker 3: someone who is advising the president and is an addict.

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Speaker 3: But what I am far more concerned about is this.

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Speaker 3: Let me lay out exactly what happened. They found this

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Speaker 3: cocaine in a supposedly highly secure area of the White House,

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Speaker 3: and they shut down the entire White House because they

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Speaker 3: were concerned it was anthrax and it might be a

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Speaker 3: terror attack. What the Secret Service is telling all of us,

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Speaker 3: buck is if someone was an unknown terrorist, undercover terrorist,

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Speaker 3: they could walk into the White House and they could

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Speaker 3: spread anthrax and we would never be able to figure

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Speaker 3: out who that was. So if that is true, can

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Speaker 3: I put your mind though? Can I put your mind

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Speaker 3: at ease about this?

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Speaker 2: It's not that they couldn't figure out who would leave

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Speaker 2: the anthrax, then they would probably want to figure it out. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they don't want to figure this one out. This is

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Speaker 2: about will not capability, Okay, So that should be unacceptable

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Speaker 2: on either front. Right, If we have a situation where

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Speaker 2: the most secure place in the world, certainly the most

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Speaker 2: there are many people who would do ill to the.

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Speaker 4: Residents of the White House.

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Speaker 3: If it is true that we have such a securitized

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Speaker 3: So that's point one. I agree with you, Buck. I

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Speaker 3: I would say that's different than what you said is

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Speaker 3: I actually I keep having too much faith in basic

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Speaker 3: human decency I know, and keep getting disappointed time after

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Speaker 3: time because I thought, at a minimum, they would trot

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Speaker 3: she was going to a white house going to a

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Speaker 4: Didn't even bother to do that.

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Speaker 3: So I keep getting upset at my expectations, which are

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Speaker 4: I expected a lie. I expected a fall guy or

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Speaker 3: Them to just come out and say, oh, we can't

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Speaker 3: figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Fuck.

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Speaker 3: They're still putting Grandmas in prison for walking across into

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Speaker 3: the Capitol and taking a selfie. They've been investigating it

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Speaker 3: for two years now. There's still people being arrested for

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Speaker 3: taking selfies in the Capitol. On January sixth, and they

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Speaker 3: can't get around to actually figuring out who brought a

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Speaker 3: in the United States. It's unacceptable. And I hope, and

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Speaker 3: this is what I hope. I hope that all of

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Speaker 3: these things adding up are registering with middle of the

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Speaker 3: the hypocrisy is starting to add up.

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Speaker 2: So I have two things for you. Uh One is, yes,

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Speaker 2: jump into the toxic swamp of endless cynicism when it

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Speaker 2: comes to anything involving the Biden regime, anything involving any

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Speaker 2: unwilling to corrupt or that is incorruptible when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the power of this regime, Like there's no whether

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Speaker 2: it's the Supreme Court or it's the safety of the

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Speaker 2: White House. If it hurts them politically, they won't.

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Speaker 3: Then I will just say this, no, no, I the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court leaker should have been caught. I can understand

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Speaker 3: easier how the Supreme Court leaker could get away with

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Speaker 3: it than whoever brought the cocaine to the White House.

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Speaker 2: In this instance. Put aside whether there's DNA or fingerprints

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Speaker 2: I mean, this person wasn't They're not a cat burglar.

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Speaker 4: This isn't.

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Speaker 2: They're not, you know, coming in through the skylight to

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Speaker 2: steal the Hope diamond. Like, I don't think they were

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Speaker 2: carrying you know, this around with gloves. But put that

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Speaker 3: By the way, should be should be assigned. Something's afoot.

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Speaker 3: If somebody walked into the White House with latex gloves on,

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Speaker 4: This is weird to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, weird. You tell everybody though you're still afraid of COVID.

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Speaker 2: I'm only on shot number six, but I would I

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Speaker 2: would throw in there this as well. We had a

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Speaker 2: lot of political analysis, including from some folks listening. They

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Speaker 2: Point one, The endless cynicism that we should all approach

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Speaker 2: anything involving the power of the Democrats and the commis,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Just just that's got to be baked in

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Speaker 2: keep that in mind for everything. Okay point two, Though

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Speaker 2: people were saying, see, Buck, this is how they're gonna

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Speaker 2: push Hunter aside. This is how they're gonna to this.

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Speaker 2: I say, okay, well, if you thought that this was

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, what this really is is the system

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Speaker 2: protecting the Biden White House at some level, no matter what.

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Speaker 2: This is a secret service knowing that there's a decent

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Speaker 2: didn't want to ruffle the feathers, which means I still

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Speaker 2: think they view the Biden apparatus as as important and

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Speaker 2: something that they will protect, even at the expense of

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Speaker 2: just common sense. That everyone looks at this and goes,

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Speaker 2: come on man, really like this is a come on

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Speaker 3: Okay, for don't you think every single White House employee

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Speaker 3: a baseline? I think that's a reasonable thing to do

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Speaker 3: like the idea of planting cocaine to try to embarrass

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Speaker 3: the Bidens. I am fascinated by, Like, if this was

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Speaker 4: The person who would have.

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Speaker 3: Left a baggie of cocaine in a highly securitized area

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Speaker 3: of the White House unintentionally would have to be a

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Speaker 3: this buck is if someone accidentally left cocaine in the

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Speaker 3: White House. They are probably an addict. Why would we

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Speaker 3: you would want, regardless of politics, is people of sound

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Speaker 3: the White House, Right, I mean, do you agree with

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Speaker 3: me if you accidentally leave cocaine, you have got some

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense to you?

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Speaker 2: Like that that's the place was kind of I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: you know, the place was the White House was kind

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Speaker 2: of a pharmacy back when JFK was was the president's

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Speaker 2: So this isn't the first time I was tied that

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Speaker 2: people have been taken. And who knows what we think

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Speaker 2: under the Bill Clinton presidency, there wasn't. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: know there was all kinds of stuff going on there.

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Speaker 2: I think that your point about this person being an addict,

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Speaker 2: I said along, I didn't believe that it was hunter

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Speaker 2: because there are some levels of insanity that I think

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Speaker 2: are even too much for a hunter. Now, I might

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Speaker 3: The hunter is very likely to have been the source

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Speaker 3: and or someone who is friends with Hunter, Well, friends

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Speaker 3: with Hunter is not Hunter, right, that that's a different

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Speaker 3: If Hunter is using a mule, if he's having somebody

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Speaker 4: They panicked, And it doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 3: That's not cocaine, it's gold bond is a hell of

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Speaker 2: Well, isn't that what the America? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not for me to snort and get high.

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Speaker 2: It was trading places they put they planted the drugs

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Speaker 2: stupidity and incompetence is more often the answer than conspiracy. Like,

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Speaker 2: so you're saying about how how can all these things.

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Speaker 3: I think the answer is yes, Okay, but why not

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Speaker 3: I'm curious if people have theories on this, because I

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the chances that there's some

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 3: This is why I don't understand how you couldn't catch them,

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Speaker 3: which is why I think you should drug test everybody

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Speaker 4: Is it that high?

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Speaker 2: I mean going Clay the Libertarian, going full narc over here,

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Speaker 3: Drug test them all. I gotta go to break here,

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Speaker 3: but I want them all online. Identity theft silent, silent crimes.

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Speaker 4: It's all out there. You know this.

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Speaker 3: You see it every single day, happening everywhere. It's important

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Speaker 1: Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton voices of sanity and insane World.

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Speaker 3: We are joined now by one of the senators from

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Speaker 3: my home state of Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: She is Marsha black Burn.

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Speaker 3: She is fighting battles every single day that matter for

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Speaker 3: so many Americans. Center Blackburn, I appreciate the time. I

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Speaker 3: want to start with the news that I'm sure you

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Speaker 3: The Secret Service said that they have no idea essentially

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Speaker 3: I am sure you know the security that is involved

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Speaker 4: Do you believe the Secret Service?

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Speaker 3: What should happen in your mind when they come out

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Speaker 6: That should be the signed to the American people that

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Speaker 6: they know exactly who did this and why they did it,

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Speaker 2: Senator Blackburn, I know you're also raising the alarm a

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Speaker 2: can you tell us about what kind of a concern, like,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Buck, you know, we've talked for years about

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Speaker 6: they have used economic warfare, great power competition, they're built

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Speaker 6: For goodness, they they wouldn't go take down the spy balloon.

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Speaker 6: They won't go after Cuba for setting up a training

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Speaker 6: It is showing their power, showing that they can push

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Speaker 3: Center Blackburn, I'm sure you also saw yesterday, and I

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Speaker 3: I do think every single day trying to catch bad

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Speaker 6: That's right, and Clay Item number one is going to

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Speaker 6: under oath if he was a participant in any writings,

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Speaker 6: any meetings, any conversations, any emails, any phone calls dealing

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Speaker 6: with what happened with the election with Joe Biden Biden

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Speaker 6: incorporated Hunter Biden's laptop, anything against the pro life activists,

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Speaker 6: anything against parents being labeled as terrorist. And he refused

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Speaker 6: to answer the question. So I've sent it do him

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Speaker 6: and writing for a response, and I was pleased. Senator

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Speaker 6: Hawley joined me. He followed me and the questioning, and

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Speaker 6: he picked up on that line of questioning. Also, these

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Speaker 6: people feel like running the FBI. They the two tiers

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Speaker 6: of justice system lockdown. Tennesseeans don't want that. The American

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Speaker 6: people don't want that. They want equal opportunity, equal access,

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Speaker 6: equal justice for all. And they're offended with the smugness

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Speaker 6: and the arrogance. And people like Christopher Ray and Brendan Long,

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Speaker 6: his former deputy chief of staff, who under oath will

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Speaker 6: not tell you the truth about what is going on

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Speaker 6: or what their part was in it. And I did

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Speaker 6: a telephonetown hall the other night. Thousands of Tennesseeans on

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Speaker 6: this telephone town hall. We did questions for an hour

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Speaker 6: and so many times regardless of this, the question was

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Speaker 6: about inflation, or the border, or AI or any of

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Speaker 6: a host of issues. People would say. And I got

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Speaker 6: to tell you this, two tiers of justice. This the

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Speaker 6: Bidens not being held to account, the Clinton's not being

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Speaker 6: held to account, people getting favoritism from the government. People

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Speaker 6: are exhausted with it, and they want.

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Speaker 5: It to stop.

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Speaker 2: Senator Marshall Blackbird of Tennessee, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 5: Glad to join you.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Once more, Clay and Buck that you didn't here on the.

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Speaker 3: your podcasts. Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis

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Speaker 3: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with

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Speaker 3: Travis and Buck Sexton Show Podcast B fifteen million plus

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Speaker 3: downloads and counting every single month. That is a tremendous

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Speaker 3: credit to you, guys. We continue to set records as

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Speaker 3: more and more of you subscribe and download there. Yesterday, Buck,

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Speaker 3: we got several things to get into. Marsha Blackburn is

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Speaker 3: Next hour, we'll be joined by Republican President candidate Vivic Ramaswami. Yesterday,

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Speaker 3: I tossed out that I think there's a great deal

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Speaker 3: of popularity in this audience that Robert F. Kennedy Junior

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Speaker 3: has unlocked. And I didn't know what the numbers would reflect,

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Speaker 3: but I said, for instance, if you gave me a

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Speaker 3: choice of voting and again no third party, and you

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Speaker 3: gave me a choice only of these two, death is

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Speaker 3: not an option. You can't pick anybody else. I said,

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Speaker 3: I would vote for Robert F. Kennedy Junior over Mitt Romney.

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Speaker 3: And I said I would vote for Robert F. Kennedy

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Speaker 3: Junior over Paul Ryan and a lot of reaction rolled in,

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Speaker 3: so I thought, you know what, I should put a

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Speaker 3: poll up. And this poll has now been retweeted by

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Speaker 3: Clay and Buck. At Clay and Buck on Twitter, you

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Speaker 3: can go vote in it there. We'll also maybe put

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Speaker 3: it up on the front page of the Clay and

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Speaker 3: Buck website to allow people who are not active on

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Speaker 3: social media, don't have accounts, you can go vote there.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what the numbers look like, Buck. These done

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Speaker 3: me right now. Over sixty thousand of you have voted

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Speaker 3: in this poll. Again, you can go see it right now.

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Speaker 3: At Clay and Buck you can scroll down. In fact,

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Speaker 3: I'll retweet it right now so it shows up right

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Speaker 3: at the top of my feed. At Clay Travis you

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Speaker 3: can also go vote in it there. Over sixty one

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Speaker 3: thousand of you have voted. Seventy nine percent of people

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Speaker 3: Buck said they would vote for Robert F. Kennedy Junior

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Speaker 3: over Mitt Romney. I know, I think that's pretty significant

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Speaker 3: because I bet a large percentage of people listening to

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Speaker 3: us right now actually voted for Mitt Romney for president

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Speaker 3: in twenty and twelve. Now granted Mitt Romney since then,

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Speaker 3: has you're nodding, I mean I've been a huge percentage

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Speaker 2: I mean, ever since people saw Mitt Romney with his

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Speaker 2: mask on, marching and being like I'm here because I

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Speaker 2: want to march with Black Lives Matter. Everyone's like, oh, yes,

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Speaker 2: Mitt Romney, there's a man who understand the struggle, Like,

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Speaker 2: give me a break. Mitt Romney has been a guy

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Speaker 2: that people have had to just we've had to try

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Speaker 2: to forget the Republican votes that were cast for him

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Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. I mean, well, I still think he

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Speaker 2: was a better option than Obama. But he's not running

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Speaker 2: this time though, so I think it'll be more interesting

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Speaker 2: to see what about RFK Junior versus a Republican who's

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Speaker 2: not Trump or DeSantis.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean he would crush Let's run through him.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you my guess it would be so uh

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Speaker 3: RFK Junior would crush Asa Hutchinson. I think he probably

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Speaker 3: would beat in this audience, Chris Christie. I think he

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Speaker 3: would beat Nikki Hayley. Honestly.

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Speaker 2: Now see that that, to me, is is a little

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Speaker 2: more interest because she's a mainline Republican. Right, Mitt mid

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Speaker 2: Romney has gone over basically to the other team. Mitt

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Speaker 4: Which stanks to Utah.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't announced Mitt Romney whether he's a run for

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Speaker 3: re election. I believe I'm correcting this. Utah people can

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Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. But remember he refused to

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Speaker 3: endorse Mitt Romney. Did Mike Lee, the senator from UH

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Speaker 2: Romney's basically a Democrat. Now, so that's why the you know,

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Speaker 2: that's why when you look at a RFK Junior Romney

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Speaker 2: It is the case that there are Republicans who are

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Speaker 2: You never get Democrats who are actually right wing though

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Speaker 2: that's not really a thing. That doesn't really exist, well

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Speaker 2: unless you would count Joe Manchin or somebody like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's closer to the middle than than anything.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: It used to be the case that that you did

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Speaker 4: Had changed a lot.

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Speaker 2: I also think that the more people on the right

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Speaker 2: have to well find out about RFK Junior's policies on things.

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Speaker 2: My guess is he's probably I'm guessing here, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and maybe he's addressed some of this. He's pro choice.

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Speaker 2: My guess is he's pretty into high taxes. You know,

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Speaker 2: don't know where he is on crime. I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone does, because that could go

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Speaker 2: either way. But on some of those issues, he would

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Speaker 2: lose republic He would lose Republican support if he came

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Speaker 2: out and and he has to repudiate he's he said

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Speaker 2: crazy stuff on climate change, which I believe he has

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Speaker 2: said I don't like, well, I don't like the way

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Speaker 2: I said that, or something else, but the climate change

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Speaker 2: thing could be a problem. Trump said a lot of

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Speaker 2: crazy left wing things back. I'm not saying that it

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Speaker 2: has to come out and clarify on these things. What

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Speaker 2: he where he would stand out, which is why we

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Speaker 2: not be at the Doctor, I will be here.

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Speaker 4: So I think.

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Speaker 3: What it really represents is people are desperately craving authenticity.

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Speaker 3: And I think even if you or me or other

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Speaker 3: examples of this. This is a guy who in twenty

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Speaker 3: of the House for Republicans, I think, and vice presidential candidate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that RFK Junior would beat both of those

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Speaker 4: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I think there is one a desire among a huge

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Speaker 3: percentage of the population for there to be a reckoning

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Speaker 3: over COVID, and I think there is a deep well

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Speaker 3: alive to what happened coming out of Vietnam over the

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Speaker 3: And I think people are willing again, this is my

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Speaker 3: to say, Okay, I disagree with you on that, if

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Speaker 3: you just honestly tell me what you think, at least

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Speaker 3: I know what you mean. And I think Trump hit

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Speaker 3: on a lot of this in sixteen buck and I

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Speaker 3: think his presidency. Honestly, what did Trump do in office?

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Speaker 3: Not a lot that he said he would not do.

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Speaker 3: Now he wasn't able to accomplish everything. Yeah, he said

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Speaker 3: that a lot of people believe to be true, but

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Speaker 3: and that was the breakthrough. I think that right now

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Speaker 3: a lot of people the craving of authenticity. I do

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Speaker 3: think that's reading the feelings that people have right now.

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Speaker 3: I think that as things get closer, you get into

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Speaker 3: the fear of losing and the desire of winning, and

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Speaker 3: that starts to crowd out meaning, well, i'm gonna vote

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Speaker 3: for whether you're Democrat republic I'm gonna vote for Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden because I don't I don't want the Republicans to win.

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Speaker 3: And so that that's where I think things narrow pretty

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Speaker 3: quickly from everyone saying, well, I want the most authentic

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Speaker 3: candidate all of a sudden electability, which is a very

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Speaker 3: amorphous thing, right, You're you're not electable until you're elected.

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Speaker 3: You know that we're gonna argue a lot about this.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's going to be arguing about who's electable. And people

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Speaker 3: will point out that that we've seen plenty of times

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Speaker 3: in recent political history in this country, Trump being probably

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Speaker 3: the best example of it in twenty sixteen, where oh,

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Speaker 3: that person can't win until they do, until they do,

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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, everything the conventional wisdom changes.

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Speaker 4: And remember one of the most do you remember one

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Speaker 4: of the most controversial things that Trump was willing to say?

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Speaker 4: To me? This was when I started really taking note.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there were a lot clay, So there's remember

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Speaker 2: the controversial thing, well, I mean in terms of directly

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Speaker 2: attacking Republican orthodoxy, the Iraq War thing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was where I looked up and I said, oh,

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Speaker 3: like that to me is evidence of being willing to

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Speaker 3: challenge the existing party. That to me is the direct attack. Right,

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Speaker 3: was when he said the Iraq War was a disaster

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Speaker 3: and George W.

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Speaker 4: Bush blew it.

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Speaker 2: So I will say though, he read something very important

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Speaker 2: in the shift in politics that I could remember. That

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Speaker 2: was also something that Barack Obama in the Democrat primary,

666
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Speaker 2: was able in two thousand and eight to outneuver Hillary

667
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Speaker 2: on which was her previous support of the Iraq War.

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Speaker 2: The Iraq War was as much as Democrats tried to

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Speaker 2: rewrite history, John Kerry tried to rewrite the history. He failed.

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Speaker 2: The Iraq War was a bi partisan, a bipartisan push

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Speaker 2: at the time. Both parties had their hands all over that.

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Speaker 2: And Trump came along. I think he saw I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying he didn't feel this way because he saw what

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Speaker 2: happened in Iraq and just came to this assessment. But

675
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Speaker 2: also politically, it was clear that on the Democrat side,

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Speaker 2: Barack had an advantage over Hillary because of her support

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Speaker 2: for Iraq, and on the Republican side, everybody who was

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Speaker 2: prominent in Republican politics had effectively been tied to the

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Speaker 2: Iraq War in some capacity. So Trump comes along and

680
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Speaker 2: he's like, that was terrible. What was that all about?

681
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Speaker 2: And people were saying, wow, finally, because it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit harder if you, you know, voted for Iraq and

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Speaker 2: you gave fifteen speeches about how great the Iraq War

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Speaker 2: was going or whatever, which was true of a lot

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Speaker 2: of Republican members of Congress, et cetera. So that was

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Speaker 2: a big change, a big change for him.

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Speaker 4: I also would say.

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Speaker 3: That's why I think, and I know people out there,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's crazy. I think Trump is seriously

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Speaker 3: considering putting RFK Junior on the ticket.

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 3: And I know people out there you may say, you know,

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Speaker 3: you're you're crazy for even suggesting it. That is the single,

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Speaker 3: the single most disruptive thing that Trump could do in

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Speaker 3: selecting a vice presidential candidate would be RFK Junior.

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Speaker 2: You see, the DeSantis has said he will not be

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Speaker 2: a vice president, so he's ichweeved to be fair and

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Speaker 2: to be clear, I've told you I've said this on

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Speaker 2: the show. When people called in and they said, what

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Speaker 2: about a Trump Desanti's ticket, I said, I think that

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Speaker 2: would be very powerful. Ron won't do it. Yeah, now

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Speaker 2: Ron has said he won't do it. So sometimes say

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Speaker 2: things go.

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Speaker 3: To a fair Every single Republican or Democrat presidential candidate

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Speaker 3: of the last fifty years, when they're running for president,

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Speaker 3: has said at some point I won't be the VP, right,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of those people end up being the VP.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we talk to some Republicans right now

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Speaker 2: and say would you be Trump's VP, and they would say, well,

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Speaker 2: I think I should be the first choice. But I'd

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Speaker 2: be happy ron Is has completely ruled out VP under Trump.

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Speaker 3: I get it. But if Trump wins and it's over right.

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Speaker 3: If Trump wins the issue with DeSantis as VP, as we.

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Speaker 2: Have talked, I'm gonna get a getting board up. I

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Speaker 2: would give crazy odds that anybody wanted. There's no chance

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Speaker 2: that Ronda Santels can't take them.

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Speaker 3: I think the legality of it is actually the reason

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Speaker 3: why he wouldn't be the nominee.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: You can't really have two from the same state because

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Speaker 3: there's constitutional issues sometimes houses in New Jersey and New York.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you think New Jersey would allow Trump

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Speaker 3: to easily switch his residency to New Jersey. They would

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Speaker 3: go to court to try to say that they have

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Speaker 3: to give up Florida's electoral votes. I don't want that

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Speaker 3: legal issue. If DeSantis were the governor of any other

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Speaker 3: state than Florida, where Trump lives. I think DeSantis in

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Speaker 3: March if Trump had swept to the nomination and he

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Speaker 3: came to him and he said, I want you to

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Speaker 3: be my VP, I think he would take it. You're

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Speaker 3: the nominee one hundred percent in twenty if Trump. If

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Speaker 3: you're Trump's VP, and you're and you're DeSantis. Right now,

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Speaker 3: there are other people Trump could pick his VP that

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Speaker 3: aren't as well known. For instance, I'll just toss one out.

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Speaker 3: If he picked Christy Knowam. I don't think that means

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Speaker 3: Christy Knowam has to be the nominee in twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: I think if DeSantis were the VP, it would be

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Speaker 3: a default Trump wins in twenty four. There's not hardly

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Speaker 3: even a campaign in twenty eight on the Republican primary side.

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Speaker 2: I see, I see the logic of it. I don't

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Speaker 2: think he would take that role.

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Speaker 4: I get it. I get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's and it's not because it's not

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Speaker 2: because of legal I'm looking at the egos, the egos

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Speaker 2: and mentalities of the men involved. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen some you know. I just don't

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Speaker 2: see it. I don't see it.

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Speaker 4: Look.

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Speaker 2: The good thing about all this is we'll see we'll

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Speaker 2: let we'll end up seeing if this goes. We should

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Speaker 2: ask Vivek, by the way, who is on in the

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Speaker 2: third hour, would you gladly accept if you are not?

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Speaker 2: Vivex says, he's right, he is running and he has

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Speaker 2: been gaining to be fair, and we try to be

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Speaker 2: very fair to all the candidates. VEC has been gaining support,

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Speaker 2: you know, so you got to treat that with respect.

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Speaker 2: He's obviously people are listening and they're liking what they're hearing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he would say at this point there's

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Speaker 2: no chance that I would be Trump's VP. We could

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Speaker 2: try this out with him, Bek, would you take a

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Speaker 2: VP job with Trump? He would not say, no chance,

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Speaker 2: we can ask him.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like when you're going after chicks. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: the best way to get the chick is to pretend

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Speaker 3: you have no interest in getting the chick. To tried

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Speaker 3: and true, all the boys out there, young guys, and

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Speaker 3: every girl's like, yep, one of the best ways to

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Speaker 3: get the chick. Pretend that you have no interest in

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Speaker 3: getting the chick makes you way more desirable. Betweets, sports

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Speaker 3: and chick analogies. We cover a lot of ground here

771
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Speaker 3: on this show. It's all psychology, sports chicks, It's all psychology.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get into more of this. Also, we do

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Speaker 2: have coming up, Senator Marsha Blackburn is going to be

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Speaker 2: joining us from at Tennessee, which is a fantastic state.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a little bit. Earlier this month,

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Speaker 2: we took a long high weekend to celebrate our nation's

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Speaker 2: Independence Day and remember our freedoms and the heroes who

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Speaker 2: fought for our freedoms. But have you thought about this

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Speaker 2: that there are more Americans today, unborn Americans that do

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Speaker 2: not have that freedom of life in liberty. These are

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Speaker 2: the children we may never meet because abortion has been

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Speaker 2: chosen over giving them life. Every day, unborn babies lives

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Speaker 2: are under attack, but because of a brave and selfless

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Speaker 2: organization by the name of Preborn, we can rescue them.

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Speaker 2: Preborn is the largest pro life ministry in the country,

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Speaker 2: and by providing free ultrasounds to women contemplating such a decision,

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Speaker 2: they're saving some two hundred lives a day. Will you

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Speaker 2: Each ultrasound is just twenty eight dollars or five ultrasounds

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Speaker 2: or one hundred and forty dollars to donate, Just style

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Speaker 2: pound two fifty on your cell phone and say the

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Speaker 2: keyword baby. That's pound two five zero. Say the word baby,

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Speaker 2: or donate securely at preborn dot com, slash buck that's

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Speaker 2: preborn dot com, slash b u cek.

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Speaker 1: The Voices of Sanity in an Insane World, Clay Travis said,

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. Let's take a look at the

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Speaker 2: poles here for a second, because they just put out

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Speaker 2: play the first polls showing where the Republican candidates are

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Speaker 2: that meets all the criteria. So this is from Politico,

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Speaker 2: the first poll that meets all the criteria for candidates

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Speaker 2: to qualify for the first GOP debate. This is kind

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Speaker 2: of like more official poll and what we have in

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Speaker 2: it shows eight candidates hitting all the criteria that have

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Speaker 2: at least one percent support. And there's a couple other things,

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Speaker 2: but Trump at fifty six percent, Ron DeSantis at seventeen,

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Speaker 2: the Vek Ramaswami at eight, the Vek in third right now,

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Speaker 2: Mike Pence seven percent, Clay Nikki Haley three percent, Tim

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Speaker 2: Scott three percent, Chris Christy three percent, Asa Hutchinson at

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Speaker 2: one percent, so ASA, I think is set to make

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Speaker 2: it onto the debate stage. Right that's they have to

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Speaker 2: have at least forty thousand donors. I'm looking at this now,

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Speaker 2: so that so that means if you hit one percent,

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Speaker 2: you are in the polls enough to get on the

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Speaker 2: debate stage. Then you have to have you have to

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Speaker 2: have two national polls that show that, and then you

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Speaker 2: have to have forty thousand individual donors and and have

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Speaker 2: to pledge to support the eventual nominee. We may be

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Speaker 2: joined here at some point soon by our friend Vivek.

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Speaker 2: You might, oh is he with us? Vizk Ramaswami, tech entrepreneur,

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Speaker 2: and according to polls, mister Vek, third place right now

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Speaker 2: in the Republican primary must be quite a ride for you.

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Speaker 5: It's going well so far. I'm I think we're still

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Speaker 5: in early days of this, but much of the country

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Speaker 5: still doesn't know who I am, and so we're actually

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Speaker 5: doing better than expected this early in the polls. But

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Speaker 5: I think the debate stage, I heard you just talking

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Speaker 5: about that, and I think that is going to be

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Speaker 5: critical for the next phase of this campaign season.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be can I just

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Speaker 2: ask you for back, I mean, give us, give us

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Speaker 2: a preview. Obviously a lot of it's going to be

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Speaker 2: your back and forth with some of the other candidates,

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Speaker 2: but you know your version. Sometimes I'll do opening statements,

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Speaker 2: give us a shortened version of your opening statement that

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Speaker 2: you're planning to give on that debate stage.

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Speaker 5: I have to tell you I haven't prepared it yet,

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Speaker 5: but let me let me give it a try. This

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Speaker 5: has called us my debate practice, so some the bight

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Speaker 5: rise with Cake and I have lived the American dream.

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Speaker 5: My parents came to this country with almost no money

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Speaker 5: forty years ago. I've gone on to found multi billion

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Speaker 5: dollar companies. I did it while getting married, having two sons,

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Speaker 5: following my faith in God. And I'm in this race

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Speaker 5: because I'm worried that American dream will not exist for

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Speaker 5: the next generation. And I see a conservative movement today

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Speaker 5: that is habitually running from something. I'm in this race

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Speaker 5: as the first millennial ever to run for president as Republican.

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Speaker 5: I am in this race to lead us to start

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Speaker 5: running to something to our vision of what it actually

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Speaker 5: means to be an American today. And I think that

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Speaker 5: means reviving the ideals that won us the American Revolution

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Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty years ago. That's the task ahead

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four. So I don't know if that

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Speaker 5: was good on the.

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Speaker 4: Fly or that's pretty good. That's pretty good on the fly.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Joe Biden could even come up with

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Speaker 3: a single sentence, probably hardly to answer a question. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for coming on with us, Congratulations.

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Speaker 4: I got the cocaine to help out, you know, thanks

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Speaker 4: for coming on with us.

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Speaker 3: But I'll ask you about that because I do think

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Speaker 3: it goes to the distrust that many Americans of all

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Speaker 3: political persuas Asians feel in institutions.

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Speaker 4: Of power in this country right now.

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Speaker 3: When you hear the Secret Service come out and say

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Speaker 3: we can't figure out where this cocaine came from, what's

869
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Speaker 3: your reaction?

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Speaker 4: Do you buy it? In any way?

871
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Speaker 5: I think there are two choices of what's an issue.

872
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Speaker 5: One is incompetence, and the second is even worse than incompetence,

873
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Speaker 5: It is dishonesty. I think in this particular case, usually

874
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Speaker 5: I'm a big believer in believing an explanation that ends

875
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Speaker 5: in incompetence. That is usually the explanation certainly relating to

876
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Speaker 5: any bureaucracy for a failure. But in this particular case,

877
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Speaker 5: I actually think it's so glaring that it is outright dishonesty.

878
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Speaker 5: It has to be. I mean, it reminds me a

879
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Speaker 5: little bit of the way we felt when we were

880
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Speaker 5: debating the COVID lab LaDue. Right, nobody had hard evidence

881
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 5: that it came from China instantly. That has since come out.

882
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 5: But at the time, you have a virus unlike any

883
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Speaker 5: scene before in the properties which it's spreading, that started

884
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Speaker 5: in Wuhan, which is the one city that there's a

885
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Speaker 5: bioterrorism lab that conducts known gain of function research on

886
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Speaker 5: engineering viruses, and we say that it didn't come from

887
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Speaker 5: that lab. I mean, how preposterous would that have to be?

888
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Speaker 5: And the same thing now you have a son of

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Speaker 5: a US president that regularly visits the White House that

890
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Speaker 5: literally in his laptop had cocaine, not to mention multiple

891
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Speaker 5: actual address documented cocaine use in fins that hangs out

892
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Speaker 5: in the White House, and there's a white bag is

893
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Speaker 5: it block found there is that not very many people

894
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Speaker 5: get into that has cocaine in it, fingerprinting, et cetera.

895
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Speaker 5: I mean, this isn't this isn't complicated stuff. If the

896
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Speaker 5: Secret Service can't do this, I don't particularly trust them

897
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Speaker 5: to protect the President of the United States from complex threats.

898
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Speaker 5: But the reality is, of course they have the capability to.

899
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Speaker 5: It's the fact of covering up accountability for this isn't.

900
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Speaker 5: Let's just be honest with this, even things relatively small,

901
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Speaker 5: I'm not minimizing it. But amongst the scheme of things

902
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Speaker 5: that I would worry about with this administration, including criminal

903
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Speaker 5: behaviors that compromised the potential integrity to be able to

904
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Speaker 5: lead a country accepting bribes from a state affiliated company,

905
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Speaker 5: people have not put this obvious piece together. The five

906
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Speaker 5: million dollars that comes from Barisma, which was a company

907
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Speaker 5: that supposedly privately owned but whose owner was on like

908
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Speaker 5: a National Security Council for Ukraine, happens to now be

909
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Speaker 5: the country getting two hundred billion dollars of taxpayer funds

910
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Speaker 5: directed by that US president. That's a deeper problem to

911
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Speaker 5: me than a drug addict kind of president's son leaving

912
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Speaker 5: some cocaine around the White House. It's not good, but

913
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Speaker 5: it's just an example of connect.

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Speaker 3: Sorry to cut you off, but you agree with me

915
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Speaker 3: on this that if you were having to project where

916
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Speaker 3: this cocaine came from. Hunter Biden is by far the

917
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Speaker 3: biggest suspect, right, And I'll just say that if we

918
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Speaker 3: knew a serial killer was visiting a house and a

919
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Speaker 3: dead body was found outside of the house, it wouldn't

920
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Speaker 3: be crazy. Kaareine Jean Pierre said it was unacceptable to

921
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Speaker 3: even have this discussion.

922
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you saw that.

923
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be crazy to say if a dead body

924
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Speaker 3: ended up in a place that we knew a serial

925
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Speaker 3: killer spend a lot of time, hey maybe the serial

926
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Speaker 3: killer did it. When we know that Hunter Biden is

927
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Speaker 3: a cocaine addict and cocaine shows up in the White

928
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Speaker 3: House that they can't claim they don't know where it

929
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Speaker 3: came from, it's not crazy to think, oh, maybe it

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Speaker 3: was the cocaine addict that had the cocaine OCAM's razor.

931
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Speaker 5: It's very simple. Use the simplest explanation first, and that's

932
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Speaker 5: why I used the covid lablak thing again. Karine John

933
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Speaker 5: Pierre saying that about Hunter Biden is the equivalent of

934
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Speaker 5: social media companies censoring your account and locking you down

935
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Speaker 5: from being able to say that this started in a

936
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Speaker 5: lab in Wuhan calling that racist two years ago, and

937
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Speaker 5: I'm not making that up. As you guys will well

938
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Speaker 5: remember that's exactly what happened in this country. And though

939
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Speaker 5: you know it's a lady doth protest too much in this.

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Speaker 2: The vik if I can, if I can take us back,

941
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Speaker 2: and we're speaking to the vike Ramaswami here, who is

942
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Speaker 2: currently running third in the most recent major national poll

943
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Speaker 2: for the Republican nomination, Vivek. To that end, the Trump

944
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Speaker 2: campaign seems pretty positively disposed toward you, unlike one of

945
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Speaker 2: your other front runners who is getting a lot of

946
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Speaker 2: back and forth with with the Trump campaign. You are running,

947
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Speaker 2: and I know you're going to tell us that you

948
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Speaker 2: want to be the president, but do you think you

949
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Speaker 2: would do a better job than Trump.

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Speaker 5: I'm in this race because I think I'm going to

951
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Speaker 5: do the best job of leading and reuniting this country. Yes,

952
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 5: I do believe that I am the one candidate in

953
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Speaker 5: this race. I think there's a lot of Republicans Trump included,

954
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Speaker 5: by the way, who are positioned to defeat Biden in

955
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Speaker 5: a general election. So I reject the electability case against Trump.

956
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 5: I think Trump versus Biden or most of the Republicans

957
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Speaker 5: in the field versus Biden can in a narrow election

958
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Speaker 5: absolutely win. I think I'm the only candidate in the

959
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Speaker 5: Republican field, frankly who can deliver a landslide election buck

960
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Speaker 5: in to what Ronald Reagan did in nineteen eighty. And

961
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Speaker 5: I do think we need a landslide election. We need

962
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 5: a more mandate to revive this country. You know, I

963
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Speaker 5: might just point to the facts of that, right, thirty

964
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Speaker 5: percent of our You were talking about the forty thousand

965
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Speaker 5: donor threshold for the Republican Party that many, even you know,

966
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Speaker 5: well known politicians have had trouble meeting and are complaining

967
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Speaker 5: that it is set too high. I've already passed sixty

968
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 5: five thousand unique donors. I've never had a political donor

969
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Speaker 5: in my life. I never had a donor list that

970
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Speaker 5: we started with either. I post selfie videos on Twitter

971
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Speaker 5: and collect donations that way. But we have data on this,

972
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Speaker 5: and I think last I checked, at least it was

973
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Speaker 5: about thirty percent of them were first time ever donors

974
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Speaker 5: to a Republican Canada. That's unheard of. It's usually two

975
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 5: to five percent for Republican candidates. So it just tells

976
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Speaker 5: me I mean, I go to the South side of Chicago,

977
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 5: I go to Kensington in Philadelphia, where even the police

978
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: don't show up, where Democratic politicians certainly don't show up.

979
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: I'm going to college campuses across this country, and I

980
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 5: just see an opportunity to think beyond Republican and Democrat boundaries.

981
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 5: I could care less for honestly traditional partisan distinctions. To me,

982
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 5: it's whether we're part of this pro American movement, and

983
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 5: I think that is the formula for actually delivering, you know,

984
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 5: Reagan Revolution in nineteen eighty. I'm in this to do

985
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 5: a Ramaswami revolution in twenty twenty four by similar margins

986
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 5: to what Reagan gave us. And I think that's what

987
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 5: we're going to need to actually see through much of

988
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 5: the revival agenda of shutting down the administrative state, declare

989
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 5: independence from China, revive national pride. That's not going to

990
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 5: happen with the fifty point one margin. And so yes,

991
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 5: I do think I'm the best positioned person in this

992
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 5: Republican field by far to deliver that, and that's what

993
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 5: motivates me to be in this.

994
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 3: We agree we need a landslide. That's actually what my

995
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 3: book is laying out comes out next month. I think

996
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: you'll agree with a lot of it that they so

997
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 3: we mentioned. You're now qualified to appear in the in

998
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: the first debate. Donald Trump has not said whether or

999
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 3: not he will participate in that debate. Should he participate

1000
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: in that.

1001
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: Debate, I don't think. I don't think it matters whether

1002
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 5: he comes to the first couple of debates. I mean, frankly,

1003
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 5: this country knows who he is. Not only was he

1004
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 5: on many debate stages last time around, he also led

1005
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: the country as US President. I think it's important for

1006
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 5: people who haven't run for president before, or people who

1007
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 5: haven't been in the White House before, to be in

1008
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 5: the early debate stage. I do think that it is

1009
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 5: important that Trump show up on the debate stage at

1010
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Speaker 5: least later on in this cycle, and I expect to

1011
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 5: be on there with him. Frankly, it might be just

1012
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 5: me and him by the time that that plays out.

1013
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 5: I think it'll be probably just me and him by

1014
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 5: the time where it's Super Tuesday. But in the early

1015
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 5: stages of this I'm perfectly fine beyond that debate stage

1016
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 5: even if Trump doesn't show up, because frankly, most of

1017
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 5: this country doesn't yet know me or certainly know me well,

1018
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 5: and I think it's just a very different position than

1019
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 5: what Trump's in.

1020
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Speaker 3: Okay, you've been made yourself very wealthy, fantastic businessman. A

1021
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 3: lot of that is risk analysis, taking advantage of opportunities.

1022
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: To me, that was basically the essence of COVID, Right

1023
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: could you or could you not analyze risk? And unfortunately

1024
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: a lot of politicians could not. If I right now

1025
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 3: said to you, there's a lot of Republican candidates, you

1026
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: get to be vice president, but you have to drop

1027
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: out of the race, so you are Trump's VP. Trump

1028
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: has a huge lead right now. Trump says comes to

1029
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 3: you and says, Vivak, I want you to be my guy,

1030
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: your VP. You'll then be the favorite in twenty eight.

1031
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna win in twenty four. Yes or no in

1032
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: response to that option.

1033
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 5: For me, it would be no, And for someone else

1034
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 5: the answer, you're right, could be yes. But for me

1035
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 5: the answer is no because it depends on how much

1036
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 5: you value that thing. Okay, and for me, the whole

1037
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 5: project here is about service to the country, and I

1038
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 5: think I'm going to use my skill set be bye

1039
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 5: if I'm not US president. Continuing to do the things

1040
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 5: that I've been doing. I mean, fuck and I met

1041
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 5: at Atten in Wisconsin. What a couple thousand people there

1042
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 5: with my Woking book tour.

1043
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Speaker 2: That was fun, the books.

1044
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 5: That was fun, right, And so so I'm crank out

1045
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 5: a book every eight months. I've built businesses, I built

1046
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 5: strives competing against Black Rock, change the game on the

1047
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 5: ESG movement in this country. There are lots of ways

1048
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 5: to drive change in this country.

1049
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Speaker 2: And there are obviously when you're third and you're running

1050
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: as well as you are, you're not going to drop

1051
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: out now later on in this process. If Trump were

1052
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: the nomination, right right, right, I don't know where the

1053
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 2: dropout thing came from, but if Trump were the nominee,

1054
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: would you consider being on a ticket with him?

1055
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Speaker 5: I will be helpful to this country in whatever way

1056
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 5: I can, but I would not be uh Number two

1057
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 5: or member of an administration. I just don't think that's

1058
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 5: the right way for me to make the maximum positive

1059
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 5: impact on this country. And I'll tell you why I

1060
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 5: was gonna say. I think there's a lot of other

1061
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 5: talented political leaders in the Republican Party, and a lot

1062
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Speaker 5: of them are going to be needed in the administration.

1063
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 5: I think there aren't that many talented executives in terms

1064
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 5: of people who can actually build companies, lasting enterprises lead

1065
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 5: in the private sector, and so I'm going to have

1066
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Speaker 5: an impact that way. But I think when it comes

1067
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Speaker 5: to reforming the executive branch of the government, it just

1068
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Speaker 5: happens that I have probably the clearest understanding of how

1069
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Speaker 5: to actually shut down the administrative state and the federal bureaucracy.

1070
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Speaker 5: The VIC.

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Speaker 2: We don't want this interview to end, but unfortunately we're

1072
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Speaker 2: basically at time. We just want to give you a

1073
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: chance to say what your site is or where people

1074
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Speaker 2: can go to learn more about your campaign.

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Speaker 5: Vivik twenty twenty four dot com, v I v e

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Speaker 5: K twenty twenty four dot com. And I love you guys.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to some more, all right, my friend, thank you.

1078
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Speaker 3: That's fascinating, right, I mean, thanks to Vivike and good Man.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason that he's that he's pulling third right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of people out there, you know,

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