WEBVTT - Liz Stokes Disobeys Bridger

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're a guest in my home.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests,

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<v Speaker 1>you're presences presents enough and I already had too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So how did you dare to surbey me?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. You're here,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here, We're in the backyard. Had a full morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the coffee shop. They gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>sam of a lemon bar mystery flavor. I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>flavor wrong. I went to Target. Some children laughed at me,

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<v Speaker 2>And here we are. I'm very, very excited about today's guest,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's just get into it. It's Liz Stokes from

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<v Speaker 2>the Baths. Liz. Welcome to. I said, no gifts, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for having me. You've been doing show is

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<v Speaker 2>basically non stop since Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight we'll be our seventh seventh in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what were the three prior to Thursday?

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<v Speaker 3>We played three shows at the Greek Theater up in Berkeley.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, this is I'm supporting death cab for CUTI

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<v Speaker 3>in the postal service.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and one of these Was it Friday that you

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<v Speaker 2>were doing that show with the Hollywood Ball?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was that your first time playing there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What was that experience?

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<v Speaker 3>It's wild, Like I had been to one show there

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<v Speaker 3>and back in twenty nineteen I saw I saw diskcap there. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was it's wild, like it's it's such an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing structure, and yeah, I don't know, it's I think

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<v Speaker 3>one of the fun things about being a musician is

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<v Speaker 3>being able to go like into the back rooms of

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<v Speaker 3>all these like kind of crazy places.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's going on in the back rooms of the

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood Ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's pretty classic like backroom venue, Like there's just

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<v Speaker 3>dressing rooms. It's just kind of a big car park

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<v Speaker 3>out there, I guess because it's it's mainly like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an outdoor bowl, right right, So watching the pack

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<v Speaker 3>out is always very exciting at these menus of all

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<v Speaker 3>the lights and production and stuff and how it's like

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<v Speaker 3>this ballet of all the lighting people and everything getting

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<v Speaker 3>everything off stage and rolling it into these trucks, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and they do it all in like an hour, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like a circus. That's crazy. As an opening band,

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<v Speaker 2>is it scary? I feel like that would be horrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always scary going in because like being an opening

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<v Speaker 3>band on like a big tour is like you are

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the hierarchy. You are. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>always go in and this is probably also just my

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<v Speaker 3>own like anxiety is talking. It's like you feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you go in and you're like cool, I have low expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm we're going to make ourselves kind of like small,

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<v Speaker 3>try and have a really good time, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>like try and have some nice chats with people and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But we've been lucky in the supporter tos that we've

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<v Speaker 3>done where the both the crew who you interact with

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<v Speaker 3>the most and the bands have been super lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's been horrible to you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, they've like treated us like people and like

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<v Speaker 3>peers actually, which is like very very generous.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you had past experiences where you were not treated

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<v Speaker 2>like a human?

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<v Speaker 3>Um? I think so. Like it's because we've done a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of support tours in New Zealand, because when bands

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<v Speaker 3>come to New Zealand, like big bands, they don't they

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<v Speaker 3>don't usually bring someone with them because it's so far away.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've like managed to kind of snag some good ones.

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<v Speaker 3>But generally the bands that we've played with are pretty

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<v Speaker 3>nice or like the alternative is that you just don't

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<v Speaker 3>interact them at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh interesting, it's just so cold. Yeah, please explain

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<v Speaker 2>to me how long it takes to get from New

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<v Speaker 2>Zealand to the United States. This is the one big

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<v Speaker 2>thing for me that's keeping me back.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you don't like flying, it's there's not really

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<v Speaker 3>another way to fly, say, from Auckland to the to

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<v Speaker 3>the West Coast, it's like twelve or thirteen hours if

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<v Speaker 3>you go direct. If you don't go direct, so I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, sometimes you'll fly via like whole WI or

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<v Speaker 3>like Australia or something. Right, but if you yeah, on

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<v Speaker 3>this run, we this is o last show in LA

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<v Speaker 3>and then we're going to fly over to New York

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<v Speaker 3>to do four shows over there, and then we will

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<v Speaker 3>fly home on this like kind of quite new flight

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<v Speaker 3>that and New Zealand's got which is New York to Auckland,

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<v Speaker 3>which is I think about seventeen hours and forty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that, just like one flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, how are you as a flyer?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not like a nervous flyer. I just hate it,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's yeah, So it's just I feel like you

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<v Speaker 3>just have to like forget that you're a person for

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<v Speaker 3>a while and kind of like go into your little

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<v Speaker 3>economy seat and take whatever drugs you can legally get

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<v Speaker 3>on the plane.

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<v Speaker 2>And Yeah, I honestly, if they had like anesthesia at

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<v Speaker 2>the that should be an option at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>a flight for they just put you out completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Just general.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that feels like a very doable thing for airlines.

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<v Speaker 2>Just everyone completely blacked out. Yeah, and then you wake

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<v Speaker 2>up at your destination.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe they still play you like a few movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have movies going in case you come out of

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<v Speaker 2>a tour in case, Yeah, what are you doing to

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<v Speaker 2>entertain yourself on a flight?

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<v Speaker 3>I usually watch a movie, Okay, Like I find like

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<v Speaker 3>a I don't know what's what's like a good plane movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>A good plane movie is like a good like middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the road movie that has kind of an emotional element,

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<v Speaker 2>because I believe you actually are more emotional in the

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<v Speaker 2>air for some reason, like your body is weak. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you'll I've cried at movies on planes that are

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<v Speaker 2>not great movies. But I think you're just in the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect place to be manipulated on a plane.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, that's so, that's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what did you watch on the way before

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<v Speaker 2>your tour? Do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I watched the New Spider Verse movie. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And were you Did you feel emotional during it?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, but like I'm I'm a bit medicated at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment, so I'm not feel like super emotional all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. Otherwise I think I'd be crying constantly during

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<v Speaker 3>the during this tour. But and I guess on planes.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really liked it. I thought the the beautiful really.

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<v Speaker 2>Really really interesting popping out. How long have you been

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<v Speaker 2>on tour for this tour?

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<v Speaker 3>This run? We're about what three weeks? And I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it's just just over. This is a this is a

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<v Speaker 3>short run for us. We'll be home in under a month,

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<v Speaker 3>as in the whole things under a month.

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<v Speaker 2>And how many shows total?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that? Oh? Good question? Let me quickly cut them

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<v Speaker 3>in my head.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to try to estimate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you reveal, I don't know, like seventeen twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that's a lot of that we've ticked over. Our

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<v Speaker 3>hundredth show, of the year. I think, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>on this run, I can't remember which one it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But have any cities been highlights for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the Seattle shows with Death Gad, we're

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<v Speaker 3>pretty we're pretty awesome. Like them playing this like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>year anniversary of two of their records. Sorry, we're in

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<v Speaker 3>one postal service record. And it's just like them playing

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<v Speaker 3>like two full arena sized shows. I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 3>played like an arena like that big. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people in an indoor space. Yes, over the top

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<v Speaker 3>of like the hockey ice was out, so they just

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<v Speaker 3>like they cover it with like kind of like foam

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<v Speaker 3>to keep it, to keep it icy.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like keeping the ice there is not a

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<v Speaker 2>bad idea. Ice skatering out's probably a hassle, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be wonderful. Actually, I feel like Frank Ocean

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<v Speaker 2>tried that at Coachella and there was a giant problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he had like ice on the stage

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<v Speaker 2>and trained like ice skaters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't maybe they couldn't keep the ice cold or now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm now I'm just making things up because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know the rest of the story. But it was a

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<v Speaker 2>giant disaster. Oh, but somebody's got to pull that off

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<v Speaker 2>at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Hanging out. Yeah, having ice on stage sounds great if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to step on any guitar peddles or

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<v Speaker 3>move if you're not one of the ice skaters.

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<v Speaker 2>Stepping on a guitar pedal in an ice skate, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>skating experience.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great way to slice it in half.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys put on like a show show you have

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<v Speaker 2>a giant fish on the stage. Who was responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>the giant fish?

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<v Speaker 3>So Lily Paris West. She did all the design for

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<v Speaker 3>our album and when I like sent her an early

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<v Speaker 3>vision of the album, and I was like, because I'm not,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't this is stupid. I don't really consider like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have much of like a visual like you.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, yeah, I feel like when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to artwork and stuff like that, I tend to like

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<v Speaker 3>try and work with people that are really like what

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<v Speaker 3>they do because I feel like I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you relinquishing control.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love relinquishing control. But it's amazing. And she's

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<v Speaker 3>done lots of lots of records and much more like

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<v Speaker 3>fashion stuff, and so she just like sent us like

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of like mockups of like potential album cover

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<v Speaker 3>of things, and one of them just had this really

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<v Speaker 3>sad fish and it just I don't know stuff with

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<v Speaker 3>faces like, I just can't. It's I find very hard

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<v Speaker 3>to not have an album cover with a face on

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<v Speaker 3>it because it's so all like a human element something

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<v Speaker 3>to connect to. Yeah, it just looks so they just

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<v Speaker 3>look so sad fish. And so we were getting ready

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<v Speaker 3>for this tour at the start of the year, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>we should have something on stage because just to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like bring people into into into the world of

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you're doing. And and a giant inflatable fish seemed

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<v Speaker 3>like just the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it made out of like balloon material? What's happening there?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like fabric, but it's like it operates kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like a bouncy house, Like it's got a fan that

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<v Speaker 3>keeps going through the whole time, or it will or

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<v Speaker 3>it will. It's not like fully air tight, which I

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<v Speaker 3>feel it would be. If it depended on being one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent air tight, it would be a disaster at.

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<v Speaker 2>Some point or something would happen. When was the last

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<v Speaker 2>time you were in a bouncy house.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, too long, it's been It's been years for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>What was last same you're in a bounty house.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an unfair question to ask you because I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember. I'm going to assume it's probably been decades.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine the last I mean a scenario that

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been in a bouncy house. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably as a kid, but my mom wouldn't allow us

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<v Speaker 2>into them because there was some news story where a

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<v Speaker 2>kid was in one and it flew away.

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<v Speaker 3>That really happened, right, and happened like it's terrified, no joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Does psa strap down your bouncy house?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that must be legally required at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think it makes sense tied down.

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<v Speaker 2>To watch someone just be carried away in one of

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<v Speaker 2>those Yeah, agony of watching your child just fly away

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<v Speaker 2>in a bouncy and it's like nothing to grab onto

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<v Speaker 2>you just fallah the inside, there's no grip or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Just Yeah, I think what I remember about bouncy houses.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that this has come up, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this was I wanted to ask it first, but

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, well, warm up, then I'll get into bouncy,

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<v Speaker 2>the real.

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<v Speaker 3>The real shit. I just I don't remember being that

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<v Speaker 3>them being that bouncy. I mainly remember them being slippery

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<v Speaker 3>and kind of like a fun place to fall down.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a bouncy house snob. Yeah, you don't have me.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you like a trampoline?

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<v Speaker 3>I much prefer a trampoline. Okay, And the old style ones, Wait,

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<v Speaker 3>you're much closer to death.

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<v Speaker 2>What are the are The new ones have like that

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<v Speaker 2>cage around them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the springs are like not at the side,

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<v Speaker 3>the springs are like underneath so that you can't put

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<v Speaker 3>your leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Through those springs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Were death traps, Oh, death traps? Yeah, they were like metal.

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<v Speaker 2>They had hooks on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I've gone flying off a trampoline and landed on like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my head and been alive somehow as a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That was another thing that I had to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sneak as a kid because my mom was just

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<v Speaker 2>paranoid about every injury. So it was often like I

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<v Speaker 2>went to a friend's house and then didn't reveal that

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the trampoline, and then they started putting

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<v Speaker 2>them in the ground. Yeah, like that was fittis inherently dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Just don't buy one.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like I don't know. Kids they got to jump.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to jump, and if you don't give them

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<v Speaker 3>the opportunity to jump at home, they'll got I was

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<v Speaker 3>to jump when.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't see them jumping at home?

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<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't you rather they do it in the house?

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<v Speaker 2>That and drugs just have them doing it at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now that we're talking about jumping, I really feel

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<v Speaker 2>like bouncing. I feel like there's probably more bouncing I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do than I actually get to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's why there's on these adult jumping that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's probably a better name than for them than jump

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<v Speaker 3>house adult trampoline emporiums.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like the warehouses with the trampolines.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I haven't. There's one in Auckland called m Nope,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember. I'm gonna call it jump house, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you should start one. It's your jump house.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they make it safer, but they look like

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<v Speaker 3>they're serious trampolines, like with with good bounce. Oh, they

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<v Speaker 3>really get you to the ceiling. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like New Zealand loves to jump and bounce

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<v Speaker 2>because isn't bungee jumping. It's like a national pastime.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of I guess it kind of is like

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<v Speaker 3>it's I don't want to say it was invented there

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<v Speaker 3>because I think it was probably just co opted by

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<v Speaker 3>from like like some kind of indigenous culture, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>uh yeah, I guess A. J. Hackett's like the New

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<v Speaker 3>Zealand guy who like jumps off stuff just anything popularized it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he likes. He's like bungee jumping the business now and

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<v Speaker 3>like owns all the all the jumping off points.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you I know you bungee jump in a video?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Had you been bungee jumping prior to that?

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<v Speaker 3>I had bungee jumped when I was like thirteen or something,

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<v Speaker 3>because I guess it's New Zealand. It was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going on a family holiday to Lake Top or

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<v Speaker 3>should we should we bungee jump? And it was I

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<v Speaker 3>went by myself and then my older sister and younger

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<v Speaker 3>sister went like tandem like you know, like uh koala

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<v Speaker 3>on the back kind of vibes and it's this, this

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<v Speaker 3>is so great. It's like it was one of those

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<v Speaker 3>ones where you're going over water, so you bounce and

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<v Speaker 3>they like wigh you to figure out how tense to

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<v Speaker 3>make the string, to make it so you can touch

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<v Speaker 3>the water but not oh my die. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>did that and then like when in the they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like lower you down into this boat. Someone's at

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom and you grab they hold up a kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a stick and you kind of like grab the

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<v Speaker 3>stick so they can guide you into the boat. And

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<v Speaker 3>my older sister and young sister, two people I guess

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<v Speaker 3>just said a bit more weight than they I guess anticipated,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they're still bouncing and the person is down

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<v Speaker 3>in the boat like holding up the stick, and they

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<v Speaker 3>grabbed the stick and they just pull them out of

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<v Speaker 3>the boat and it's like freezing. Like middle went to

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, New Zealand, beautiful scenic river, but he

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<v Speaker 3>had to get like kind of saved and then he

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<v Speaker 3>had to go home because he was very cold.

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<v Speaker 2>This feels like your parents were just trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe they didn't jump suspiciously.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so you've only been maybe twice then.

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah, yeah, And like as a kid, I was

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<v Speaker 3>like really scared, but like afterwards I think I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, this is this was a thrilling. And then

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<v Speaker 3>we made a music video and we had like a

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<v Speaker 3>different plan for a music video, but then the director

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<v Speaker 3>got COVID of course the day before the shoot, and

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<v Speaker 3>so we just were like, okay, we have this shoot day.

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<v Speaker 3>We're leaving on tour in a week. We need to

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<v Speaker 3>make our music video for the song. And we caught

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<v Speaker 3>our friends Callum and Annabel from Sports Team, who just

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<v Speaker 3>makes a lot of videos for us, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>like all about these crazy beautiful ideas and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>here are some suggestions, and one of them was just

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<v Speaker 3>the best go bungee jumping. There's no other concept beyond that.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were like, okay, let's do it, and we

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<v Speaker 3>boochered end and we like we jumped like the next day,

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<v Speaker 3>and they came up with this whole storyline and.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it was all hypothetical at first, and until

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<v Speaker 3>you're actually like walking out and looking over the edge

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<v Speaker 3>and your brain is like I know that this, I

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<v Speaker 3>chose this, and that this is safe, safe in quotation marks,

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<v Speaker 3>and then your body is just like absolutely not. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't believe that for a second. I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>die and here we go, let's here we go, We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna die.

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<v Speaker 2>And then do they push you. You're responsible for making

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<v Speaker 2>the final move.

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<v Speaker 3>They never push you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that. Like, and I think I've probably

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<v Speaker 2>talked about on this podcast before as far as skydiving,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's some primal thing in me that

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<v Speaker 2>would overtake and refuse.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing I think that's hard to overcome. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have to honestly like jump off or fall

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<v Speaker 3>like there's no other way around, otherwise you just won't

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<v Speaker 3>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I feel like I would get to the

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<v Speaker 2>point of like convincing my body, but not enough where

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<v Speaker 2>it would just become dangerous and then I would injure myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like with skydiving, I would like attack

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<v Speaker 2>the person that's responsible for me, and then we'd get

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<v Speaker 2>caught in the propellers or something. And then in the

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<v Speaker 2>bungee jumping, I would like half jump and then I

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<v Speaker 2>would like slam against the side. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm capable.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's that's kind of what me and Tristan did,

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<v Speaker 3>because they tell you, like if you fall nice and

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<v Speaker 3>strong and you fall like straight down with your head

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<v Speaker 3>facing down, you like bounce, you know, with the rope

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<v Speaker 3>and be fine, but if you kind of like let

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<v Speaker 3>your body fall off, like me interested that you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you're going down like horizontal, and then at the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom when the rope kind of like reaches its its

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<v Speaker 3>tenshile end, you kind of like snap down. And I like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's not talked enough about. I was googling

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<v Speaker 3>for days. I was like, what's wrong with me? I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's there's a little you get a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of whiplash from bunge jump or bunch of jumping.

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<v Speaker 2>That is mortifying to me. Yeah, there needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>more stories out there that things can happen. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sort are there any like what are the really bad

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<v Speaker 2>things that have happened during bungee jumping? Do rope snap?

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<v Speaker 2>Do these sort of things happen?

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<v Speaker 3>I looked it up before, because of course of course

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I was like, you know, like there's a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch jumping staffe, like what are the dangers of it?

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it does. The dangerous stuff happens when people

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<v Speaker 3>are like, it's not what it's like businesses jumping off

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<v Speaker 3>of a forty meter bridge. It's like it's like people

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<v Speaker 3>doing I don't know what to call it, like gerrilla

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<v Speaker 3>bunch jumping, like the og where you're just like you

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<v Speaker 3>tie the rope at the top and you jump.

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<v Speaker 2>Right like amateurs just showing up at a bridge or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that feels like, of course you're going to die.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels that way, But I guess they didn't think.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Yeah, I need a company that I that at

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<v Speaker 2>least my family can sue afterwards. Oh it's not me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not letting a friend time me up for bunch

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<v Speaker 2>you jumping. No, it's that that I should look into

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<v Speaker 2>the horror stories. And recently I've looked into Lasik eye

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<v Speaker 2>surgery because everyone raves and goes crazy about it. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to do it. I don't think I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Do you wear contacts or anything?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. But I have watched a LASiS surgery because

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<v Speaker 3>my partner had it.

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<v Speaker 2>You watched it live.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's like a viewing room and they have like

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<v Speaker 3>a big TV that is like what the thing is

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<v Speaker 3>looking at and I just like watched, I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I filmed it because I was like, yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to watch your ie being like destroyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Good. How was the experience for you?

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of fun, Like I'm not too squamish

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<v Speaker 3>about eye stuff. Some people really don't like it, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's like two kinds of laser, one where you

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of peel back the top layer of the

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<v Speaker 3>eye and the blast it with the laser, and the

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<v Speaker 3>other one where which Jonathan had to get because his

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<v Speaker 3>his brow ridge was a little bit too pronounced so

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<v Speaker 3>that they couldn't get the machine down, so they had

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<v Speaker 3>to like instead like just grind down that top layer,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it takes a little bit longer to hell,

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<v Speaker 3>normally takes like a heels in a day and you'd

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<v Speaker 3>be kind of pretty good. So his one took us

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<v Speaker 3>slightly longer. But it's a bit that's but the one

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<v Speaker 3>that pilots getting stuff because it's like a bit safer

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so there is a safer option.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it just I guess it's just like less risk

0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.879
<v Speaker 3>or something, well safer, that's you. Well, yes, that is

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<v Speaker 3>exactly the same, meaning, yeah, are you going to are

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<v Speaker 3>you thinking about getting it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? No, because I mean now I'm finding like no

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<v Speaker 2>one told me there was a mildly less risky option,

0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:58.520
<v Speaker 2>So people were telling me it's great and just sending

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<v Speaker 2>me in with no their tips.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, I think. I don't know, it feels like this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weather right, Like, I don't know. How bad is

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<v Speaker 3>your eyesight?

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty bad. Oh yeah, but we're in contact, isn't that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, starting around eleven o'clock every night, my eyes

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<v Speaker 2>are completely dry and that's a pain. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's better than having my eyes poked out by lasers.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's very fun, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I've hash hashtag places I've I've got good vision, thus fine.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is that, you know, I take for

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<v Speaker 3>granted talking to it my glass friends.

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<v Speaker 2>People with good vision. I mean, I just I've had

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<v Speaker 2>bad vision since like eighth grade. I just went out

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<v Speaker 2>on me immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you go out into the ocean? Do you like

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<v Speaker 3>swimming at the beach?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? This is something I'm kind of debating with myself currently.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I like the beach? Do I like the ocean?

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<v Speaker 2>It's up in the air for me, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>go a couple more times. I think I like the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the beach. I don't like the drive back,

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<v Speaker 2>And that was excruciating.

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<v Speaker 3>What about it?

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<v Speaker 2>You're like salt water's drying you out, You've got sand

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<v Speaker 2>all over your body. You're tired. The sun has been

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<v Speaker 2>beating down on you all day. I am clearly not

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<v Speaker 2>prepared for sun in any form. You've swallowed some amount

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<v Speaker 2>of salt water, so that part of it's not ideal.

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<v Speaker 2>But kind of getting pushed about by the waves, that's

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<v Speaker 2>very fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like doing it the beach?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I Like I didn't growing up like in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 3>like everything is water, Like everything's surrounded by water. Oakland

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<v Speaker 3>is an isthmus, it's like more water than land. And

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<v Speaker 3>the rag break bread it's like yeah, yeah, bramer bread, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a this is a beach straight then it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a mere hour drive, but yeah, it's I didn't like. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when you grow up with it and you're like and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I didn't like the beach. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get it, and I think I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I got it until I was about twenty four and

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<v Speaker 3>I had my first like a big breakup, and I

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<v Speaker 3>started just like going to the beach every day and

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<v Speaker 3>like swimming at night, and just like there was something

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<v Speaker 3>about it that was just like I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 3>just it flipped a switch for me. Somehow, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I like the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a great place for dramatic moments of your life,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's just it's like it's so vast and like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just like completely engulfing yourself in this

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<v Speaker 3>like big giant thing. Were you fair really helpless? Maybe

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:17.399
<v Speaker 3>that's just just was just the ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of this wet void. You can kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just release things too, The wet void, The wet void.

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.919
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's the title for something. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what exactly. Yeah, maybe my problem is I need to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the beach at night. Maybe I had be

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<v Speaker 2>a nocturnal beacher.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that is the beach. If it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a nice calm beach, I guess. I like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be the reason that you disappear, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We need someone to blame when I finally disappear. Yeah,

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I think up the publicity for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's through the relief. Yeah, let me suggest

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<v Speaker 3>this beach with really big waves.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't need any safety, don't go alone. Yep,

0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm into this. I'm into this. I wouldn't mind, like

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<v Speaker 2>a bonfire by the beach, and then it would probably

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<v Speaker 2>be cold. The Pacific's very cold.

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<v Speaker 3>We have the Pacific two, but it's right on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and it's probably cold over there as well. I

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<v Speaker 2>assume it's pretty chilly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not. It's not like a I've swum at

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<v Speaker 3>the Mediterranean. I was very confused. I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so warm. I don't know, it just it's suspicious.

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something that's the sort of thing where it's just like,

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 2>where is the what's the source of warmth in any water?

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<v Speaker 2>Unless it's really hot, you're like something gross might be making.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does feel like a little bit gross.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly where were you swimming in the Mediterranean.

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<v Speaker 3>It was in Spain on the east coast, which is

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<v Speaker 3>where we've spent a little bit of time sometimes when

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<v Speaker 3>we've been on tours, like even just like super budget once,

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 3>because flying home to New Zealand, like I say, we

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<v Speaker 3>have like of six weeks or a month between tours

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 3>in the Northern Hemisphere is very expensive. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've managed to find a spot in Spain where

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<v Speaker 3>we can find like a little place to stay. That's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, two hundred and fifty year is like

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Reveal that to me off podcast, you're going to go there?

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 2>That sounds wonderful.

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.479
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty great. And I get to practice my Spanish,

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<v Speaker 3>which I lunched high school and then never used because

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 3>you don't really use it in New Zealand.

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I learned French, or I mean learned, you know.

0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I can say my name, I mean tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>my name is, and maybe ask what for the menu

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 2>when I can say the beach. But these are all

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 2>things I absolutely have no use for. You took Spanish, yeah, absolutely,

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 2>nowhere near Spain. Yeah, nowhere near Spanish speaking country in.

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<v Speaker 3>South America either. I'm closest to South America, not close

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.400
<v Speaker 3>across the Pacific. Again. But yeah, I don't know why

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I liked the language.

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's a good language. They're all pretty good.

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 2>I suppose is there a best language. I don't know

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 2>that there is. Everybody's got their feelings. Yeah, I probably

0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever one, everyone, whatever one you speak.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I'm real learning Bahasa Indonesian because it's that's where

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:07.479
<v Speaker 3>my mum's from and it's born so like have Donesian,

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 3>but like grew up in New Zealands are very like

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 3>New Zealand ized, I guess. But we're going on like

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<v Speaker 3>a family trip soon for the first time in a

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 3>long long time, and so I was like, well, I

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 3>want to carry my weight. I'm kind of like getting

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Bahasa lessens. That's a that's a fun language to learn,

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 3>an interesting language that's like kind of simple. But because

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 3>it's simple, it's probably just got all these layers that

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 3>you you you kind of like of context that you

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.320
<v Speaker 3>can't see, right. It's like no tenses, so everything is

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 3>just like there's no past, tense, future, chance, whatever. Everything's

0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 3>just pretty simple. There's like like you barely conjugate anything.

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Everything's like very uh, I don't know straight ahead you can.

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>The words basic elements of like yeah.

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 3>But because of that, I think, yeah, there's all these

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 3>it's maybe easy to learn to a simple level, but

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 3>then like much more difficult to kind of write.

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Can you say the sentence like my name is Liz.

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's still practicing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, uh sayah number Lizzy. Like I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>know how to say that, right, But I think the

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 3>thing is in casual Indonesia, it's it's so I love

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 3>how context based it is, like You don't say, like,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.679
<v Speaker 3>my name is Lizzly. You just be like name Lizzie,

0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.280
<v Speaker 3>like or like like you wouldn't even say that, You

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 3>just be like Lizzy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, you know, good for them?

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we say a lot in English.

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<v Speaker 2>What cities you're going to visit while you're there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to visit Manado, which is where my mum's

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 3>family's from and where my mum's mum is married. So

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 3>she wants us to go there, and then some and

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Bali as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What we have family too, wonderful. I've been to Malaysia,

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 2>which I feel like is as close as all properly

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>because of that flight ever get to Indonesia?

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<v Speaker 3>That was that must have been cool though? How is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? It was? I was on a Mormon mission. I'm

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 2>ex Mormon. Wow, And so it was a beautiful place

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 2>and wonderful food and lovely people, but a not good experience.

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty negative experience overall, but I would recommend it

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<v Speaker 2>as a vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 2>The food's unbelievable.

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 3>Did it did you? Did it work?

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean? What did it work?

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Did it? Did I assume missions there about converting.

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:14.399
<v Speaker 2>About converting other people? Yeah? Somebody asked me that recently,

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know that I personally. I hope I didn't.

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I wasn't there for the full time. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a meltdown and went back home because what I've

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 2>just said. But I hope in that time I didn't

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 2>convert anybody. Okay, but who knows. It's in my distant past.

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:35.160
<v Speaker 2>We're just moving forward, and I apologize to anybody's life

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 2>who I've thrown off course. Hopefully that reach out to

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 2>the podcast. I hope they're listening well, I mean, speaking

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 2>of throwing people's lives off course. I was very excited

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 2>to have you today on the podcast. I was thrilled.

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 2>I love your band. I saw you Thursday night. It

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 2>was so wonderful. It felt kind of creepy seeing you live.

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Knowing I was going to talk to you today, I

0:26:55.480 --> 0:27:00.479
<v Speaker 2>was like spying, essentially. But I was a little prize

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>when you pulled up today holding a bag. The podcast

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>is clearly called. I said no gifts, and you've brought

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>what's obviously a gift for me.

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, you know, I just don't tell me what

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 3>to do.

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're too far into the tour. If you're

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:22.120
<v Speaker 2>listening to directions at this point. No exhausted. Okay, that's

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 2>fair enough. Well should I open it here on the podcast? Yeah?

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 3>I guess so.

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's in this lovely little bag. This is Istanbul. Anna.

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Did you get this in Istanbul?

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Nope, I got an op shop and like Birmingham was.

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, okay, I mean it's gorgeous. I assume you're

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>taking this after the podcast, so I'm gonna.

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Be very careful.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, negotiat, we'll get in a fight, that's what we do.

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna unzip here hopefully we've got a little of

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.880
<v Speaker 2>that on the mic. I'm reaching in pulling out. Oh,

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 2>this is lovely. This is a little what I assume

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a bracelet or if your neck is small enough, a choker.

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is.

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 2>It's got like a little alien charm and like a

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>little pineapple charm and some letters. But what did the letters?

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Did they spell something?

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure I'm trying to say.

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Was the podcast n GF as well? No? No? Oh no?

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Wait does it say no gifts?

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Impress? No gifts?

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Did you make this?

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I googled small bracelet, alien charm, no gifts and

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 3>nothing came up, so I had to I had to

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 3>go ahead, and.

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, that was a huge fad in the

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>early thousands, So all those businesses are gone, the bubble bursts,

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and now you've got to make them yourself. Are you

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>a crafty person?

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 3>A little? Yeah?

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 2>What sort of crafts are you getting into?

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 3>I do a bit of sewing, and like, I guess

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I've been making small bracelets. That's just a recent thing

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>because people have been making them for us and I've

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 3>been like, ah, I think you're into trade.

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Then oh that's very sweet.

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 3>And so it's been. It's been nice, very soothing, and

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you can really see your progress. My friend got me

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 3>into into beating and making bracelets. But yeah, I'm super casual.

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and where you're getting all the little beads

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and charms.

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Just from I don't know, the internet. It's all plastic.

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 3>It's terrible. That's yeah, I'm sorry.

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if we're going to have an island made

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>of plastic, it would be nice if it looked like this,

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 2>very cute.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 3>I agree.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if we're going to destroy the planet, we

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>might as well have it be adorable. Yeah, yeah, okay,

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>so you're making other people are making these for you

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like people. I guess I don't know if the

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 3>started with Tail Swift, but I mean its people have

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>been coming to shows and they kind of like throw

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 3>little brace or stage that they've made or something, and

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I was yeah, and I think I was kind of

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 3>self conscious. I was like, Oh, we should have some

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of making them and then.

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>And are you throwing them back into the audience? Yeah,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>like fight after them.

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 3>It's like not like occasionally, but mostly it's I feel

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 3>like it's like a trade, right.

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess this is a pretty nice thing.

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 2>No one's like getting into fist fights over that sort

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 2>of thing.

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 3>No, Yeah, I mean not that I've seen, but maybe.

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Probably at Taylor Swift shows, I feel like there's the

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>tension is probably a little high. Everyone's energy is very

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>high there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I can imagine she's not allowed to throw anything

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 3>into the audience. That's I think there will be death.

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>There would be blood everywhere. How many of these have

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 2>you collected from fans at this point?

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 3>A few, like maybe ten. I like, I'm ready for

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 3>you now. This one says b l j T, which

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 3>is the initials for of the band. Remember John Tristan

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and this one says death CAFFCUTI because it was at

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 3>the Death Cafcutie show.

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh very nice. And then the other brace that you're

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>wearing is just something you're purchased.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Nope, this was also someone gave it to us, but

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't say anything.

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, where did the third one come from?

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to remember the shows and icon This.

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<v Speaker 2>Van is bawling right now.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm where I get right every day. Yeah, it's Do

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 3>you do any any crafting?

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm very bad at crafts My mom and my sister

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 2>are excellent. They both like quilt, they sow, they do

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think within Mormonism that's a big pastime

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.959
<v Speaker 2>and like I feel like Mormons are just naturally crafty people.

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>But my sister makes beautiful quilts. My mom watercolors and

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 2>quilts and will sew things. And I the one craft

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I ever tried, well I was forced to make, was

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 2>in middle school. They wanted me to make a wind sock.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what that is? One of those fabric

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>tubes that hangs in the wind.

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you can tell which way the wind is

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 3>blowing by which direction the sock is pointing.

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, I assume that must be the practical purpose. Yeah,

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>but I was so bad at it. It was one

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>of those things where like I was so bad that

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>the teacher genuinely felt bad for me, was like, Oh,

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>he's just not capable. This is not in his skill set,

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 2>this he can't learn. So I think there was a

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of just doing it for me, and that may

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 2>have been the end of my craft career. Oh no,

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I did ceramics in high school as well. Cool, those

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 2>were hideous. All of mine ended up very ugly.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 3>I feel like ugly pots all the rage.

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>That's true. I feel like that is kind of the

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>trend right now. May kind of a unshapely like something that's.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Very clearly homemade, you know. It's like that's like it

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 3>was almost like a status symbol. It's like this bowl

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 3>wasn't made by a sheet. It was made by terrible human.

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Hands, someone who was paid fairly.

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly exactly, and they really phoned it. I'm just kidding,

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>but I pay people feeling. But I feel like I

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 3>got a little bit more because I did it a

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 3>bit of sewing in high school, but and done it since.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 3>But I've bought a sewing machine during the pandemic. I

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 3>was a bit self conscious because of all the other

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 3>members of my band. I've just like got all these skills,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.239
<v Speaker 3>like Ben does like hand woodworking stuff, like and he's

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 3>super into making things with wood, and he's built out

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 3>this little workshop of the years, and Tristan like works

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 3>on as has got this little Pugio car that he

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 3>that he works on and like wow. And then Jonathan

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 3>is really good at like I don't know, like fixing

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 3>microphones and electronics stuff and things like that. And I

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 3>was just like, Okay, well, when the apocalypse comes, I'm

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 3>gonna need to like I need to earn my what

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 3>can you provide place? And I'm like I could be

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 3>a bard, I guess, but I should have another skill.

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, okay, I'll do some sewing.

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, after the apocalypse, you still need to be at

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>least a double threat, I think.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I like put that on my Apocalypse TV.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 2>So have you gotten better at sewing?

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>What sort of stuff are you sewing?

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>I've like made a couple of shirts I've made I've

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 3>made three shirts and then it was all the same shirt,

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 3>but just like they I got slightly better each time.

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, you should make band uniforms. Yeah, now the

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>pressure's on, so, yeah, you have no choice.

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to not mix the thing of turning turning

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 3>my hobby into my into my job, which I've already

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 3>die a nightmare.

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a true nightmare for anyone in entertainment.

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like it's more useful for being able

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to like alter stuff and like it kind of opens

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:27.320
<v Speaker 3>up op shopping. Sorry you guys call it thrift thrifting, Yeah, thrifting. Yeah,

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 3>or yeah, before it's like you know, if it's a

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 3>if it's like nearly good, but you know you can

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 3>change it a little bit to make it for bitter.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh that's a dream.

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 3>You can shutten things.

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Or because I'll take my like I'll buy something at

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>the thrift shop and take it to the tailor and

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 2>then it like quadruples and price because the tailor's not cheap.

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 2>But so I could bring that skill set into my

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 2>own life. By a sewing machine. I love pushing the pedal. Yeah,

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I love the thrill of your fingers right next to

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>that dangerous needle.

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's a real thrill. Dangerous every year, Like

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, at the school, it was like Oh, you know,

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 3>there's always one person who gets their nail, you know,

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 3>obliterated by the sewing needle. In one year, it was

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 3>my younger sister, so she still got little shots of

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 3>metal in her finger. It just like it went in

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 3>broke and then went out and then went back in

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:20.399
<v Speaker 3>because it goes quick.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, you're bringing a lot of horrible images to the

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 2>podcast today. The eye being grinded into your sister's finger.

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. I didn't see this as a pattern, but

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>it clearly is.

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Does she have full use of her finger?

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Yep, she's all good.

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to my younger sister.

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:38.919
<v Speaker 2>Wow, does she have a full nail there?

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the whole thing obviously it came off,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 3>but it regrew from from scratch. She's a kid. I

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 3>guess it's pretty malleable.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>That feels like what's that movie series called Final Destination

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Find where everybody dies a crazy way. They should bring

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 2>a sewing machine into that, right.

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I feel like you'd have to be doing something pretty

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 3>unsafe for it to fully kill you. It's one of

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.839
<v Speaker 3>those like pulled into the sewing it sucked.

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Into the Yeah, maybe you're operating like the world's largest

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>sewing machine and like kind of as a stunt, and

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>it sucks you into the giant which is clearly at

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 2>this point like a steak jamming into the ground. The

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 2>whole audience watches you get pounded to death.

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Yea, they make those, They make them full like a

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Jens sow through Jans You need a really big hole.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Stories told, it's like one of those What are those

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>things that get oil or are those called Derek's? I

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 2>want to say they're called Derek's, And if I'm right,

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be so impressed with myself. Analyst, is the

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>thing that gets oiled called a Derek? Anas doesn't look hopeful?

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a Derek is involved in oil somehow.

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I just know someone named Derek that it.

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Looked like that kind of go. This is the audio medium.

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 3>It says that Derek is a support structure that holds

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>the drilling apparatus. So I think it's kind of like

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 3>good for you, Derek. Yeah right, I.

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Think it's kind of like the bird that gets the water. Right, Yeah, Okay,

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:01.919
<v Speaker 2>that's what I was trying to called.

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but.

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Are those is that a perpetual motion machine or an

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 2>example one.

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm bringing up a lot of knowledge that i'm or

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of words that I do not know.

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of mission to have a lot of

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 3>questions that we can't answer on this podcast.

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 2>This is why I brought you here. Okay, So I've

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>got this little thing and it's got an alien on it.

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 2>What's your feeling on aliens.

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a lot of feelings for aliens. I

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 3>guess have you.

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Been following any of the I feel like at the

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>beginning of this year, I said something's gonna happen in

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 2>space this year, and then something's kind of happened in space,

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 2>or at least like there were like hearings on aliens,

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and then there was this guy in Mexico who said

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 2>he found an alien body, and then everyone was like, no,

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 2>you didn't, that's clearly not. So maybe we're still waiting

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>for the big space thing to happen.

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I'm a casual

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 3>so I'll just I'll wait until it's front page news

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 3>and they'll be like click click on the article and

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, oh aliens, Ah, look at that.

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I kind of I never want us to find aliens,

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 2>because I think it'll probably be an hour until they're boring.

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing. Like, I feel like that's why when

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 3>you were like, oh with aliens, and I was like

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 3>I was cussed my bay back. I was like, oh, yeah,

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 3>did we find extraterrestrial life? I feel like there was

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 3>something to do with like Venus. We found like potential

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 3>for water on Venus or something like that, and then

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 3>just like and then I immediately forgot. So it's like

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.919
<v Speaker 3>it clearly is not as less important to me than right.

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like if they were discovered, it would

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>probably be like, realistically, thirty six hours of people tweeting

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 2>about it, and then we would move on.

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess so, and then.

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 2>The mystery is dead. We've learned nothing. Yeah, and there's

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 2>this another kind of animal on the planet. I don't know.

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, sure, if aliens are listening, stop by, Yeah,

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>what is that? I don't want to send you back

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>home thinking that we're going to be disappointed, But uh,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I do you know, anytime a new species or something discovered,

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I look at one, pick sure of it, then I'm

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 2>moving on. Maybe it's just the way I think. Maybe

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 2>if I was in fourth grade I would be more

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 2>excited about these sorts of things.

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:11.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, it's nice to have a new friend, I guess. Yeah.

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Is there much alien culture in New Zealand? Are there

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>people like saying and we saw aliens?

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.879
<v Speaker 3>Not really? No, I know it's part of the culture here.

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's everywhere. I mean, maybe it's just

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the size of the country and the amount of open

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>space we have for people to just be kind of

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 2>alone and thinking they saw something.

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, for sure they could do You do you

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 3>get alien jollies? I don't know. There's a lat of

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 3>stuff in America that I guess we don't really have.

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Like on the way here, we passed so many giant

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 3>skeletons in people's front yards.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the twelve foot ones. Yeah, I just met one

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:46.399
<v Speaker 2>yesterday for the first time.

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's that was a big person before they, I guess,

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 3>became a skeleton.

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, someone just living their life, doing their thing, and

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 2>now they're a decoration in someone's yard.

0:39:57.800 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I wasn't. I haven't been here I think in

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 3>a while while around like the lead up to Halloween,

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.240
<v Speaker 3>and it really ship surprised me the amount of swag,

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Like I've walked into like an enterprise car Intol and

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 3>there was just like all this, all this like a

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 3>fully decorated office, and I was like, this is really

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 3>this is kind of nice. Like people like who get

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 3>in costume. They weren't, unfortunately, so I did leave them

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 3>one star, of.

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Course, and you've got the manager. You're now trying to

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 2>get them out of business. Yeah, and at least get

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 2>someone fired put them in.

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 3>A hot dog costume, or I will never utilize your

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:31.280
<v Speaker 3>business again.

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I have I think I have a Ketchup costume in

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 2>the back of my car from last Halloween when I

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a costume and I asked a friend to

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 2>borrow it. Now it appears to just be mine a

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<v Speaker 2>Ketchup costume. Ketchup. It's like a bag of a packet

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<v Speaker 2>of Ketchup. You can just slide over your body like

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<v Speaker 2>a sash. Oh, that's a very nice way to call

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>our trashy little things of Ketchup packet. I think it

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>is what we would call it. Yeah, and they're I mean,

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 2>extremely wasteful. It's about two inches long and has maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, a hundredth of an ounce of Ketchup

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 2>in there. You have to open fifty of them to

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<v Speaker 2>have enough single serving.

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 3>But it's good for when you're on the go and

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>you just need a quickly blastom ketchup into your mouth,

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 3>like a cyclist.

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<v Speaker 2>To de France. Yeah, yeah, every ten miles taking your

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<v Speaker 2>little ketchups back? Is ketch a big in New Zealand?

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Is that part of newsance?

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 3>But we call it tomato sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>It's confusing here because then we're thinking about the Italians.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's different.

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 2>What do you call an Italian red sauce?

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know. Yeah, like pomado or I don't know.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>We've got we've got bollic naise.

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<v Speaker 2>That's delicious with meat.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know it's not probably not a real thing,

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 3>but it's a it was big. It was a big

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 3>grown up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a delicious sauce. I feel like it's a real thing.

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just like mince and tomato sauce and like some

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 3>sprinkles from the.

0:41:55.680 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>Cabinet oregano or something. Yeah, basil lick, that's a recipe

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 2>olive oil. So you're calling it tomato sauce, which is

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 2>a waste of time so quick. Yeah, but we have

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.880
<v Speaker 2>two different spellings ketchup, for sure, you call it sauce,

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 2>do you really?

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So if you go to a place that you

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 2>just want sauce and they know what you're talking about,

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:17.399
<v Speaker 2>well yeah.

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 3>If you ordered, say like a cup of hot chips

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 3>from from the local hotship place, and they were like,

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 3>do you want sauce, you'd say yes, and then they

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 3>would just blast it with like a they had a

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 3>big bottle sauce and they just blust all over the

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.439
<v Speaker 3>top of the chips. So you'd have like a really

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 3>goody top of the chips covenant sauce and the bottom

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 3>of the chips would be completely dry. But that's all

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 3>part of the experience.

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 2>See, that's I would have a huge problem with the

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.680
<v Speaker 2>sagi part. Leave it off, let me control have sagi.

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 3>This is in America. It's like you will apply your

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 3>own dressings to your meals and yeah, and you it's

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 3>like sometimes you do. Sometimes you just take what they

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 3>have poured over the top.

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 2>And say thank you. And if someone said the place

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 2>do you want sauce with that, the amount of things

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>that would go through my mind before I would get

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to ketch up would it would probably be fifteen things

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 2>before I thought, oh, they're talking about ketchup ah, I

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 2>would think about gravy so.

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 3>Much of its context, right, like yes, like, yeah, I

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 3>guess it's like if I if I gave you a

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 3>play of meat loaf, it was like, do you want sauce?

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Now that I would be like, but what the meat

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 2>loaf sauce? What sort of sauce to be putting on

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 2>your meat loaf?

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 3>I've never really had meat loaft, but like, doesn't mean

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.760
<v Speaker 3>life have tomato sauce in it?

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Maybe what only? Maybe I'm not familiar with meat loaf

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 2>enough as ketchup being sauce in it.

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:31.720
<v Speaker 3>And the Zealand loafs I'm usually bread.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, of course bread. I feel like the only

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>thing that should be a loaf is bread. The media,

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 2>the moment meat becomes a loaf, I'm leaving, Yeah, it

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be.

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.439
<v Speaker 3>The form that it came in was not good enough, right,

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 3>it needs to be able to be sliced, and but do.

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Not compress any meat for me? That's oh, I guess

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I eat sausage. But it's the word loaf just doesn't

0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 2>sound right to me when when like meat is involved,

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 2>it's disgusting. We're on the same page there, Absolutely meat loaf,

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 2>compressed meat, all the things we can talk about. What

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 2>a life, What a life we're both living. I feel

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>like we should play a game.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we would like to play a game. Love games.

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need a number between one and ten from you.

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Nine.

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 2>our game pieces. Okay, so right now, you have the microphone.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>You can promote something, you can recommend something, you can

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 2>say whatever you want. I'll be right back.

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Okay. Wow, it's amazing that you've gotten this far into

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 3>this podcast that I'm on. My name is Liz, and

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I play in a band called The Beths, and we

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 3>play kind of like guitar pop music. I guess yeah.

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 3>We put out an album last year called Expert in

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 3>a Dying Field, and we have been on tour this

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 3>year a lot, and last year pretty constantly.

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:55.479
<v Speaker 2>And yep, beautiful. I think that's great and the listener

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 2>should go listen to the band. That's my recommendation for

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 2>the week. I don't even need to recommend anything else.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 2>You're not familiar with The Beths. What a pleasant surprise

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 2>for the listener. Wow, they're going to be freaking out

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 2>everybody loves the baths and if you're not already on board,

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want to call you a loser,

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>but that may be one of the words on my list. Okay,

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 2>this is how we play gift. This the gamer plane

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 2>is called gift or a Curse. So I'm gonna name

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 2>three things. You're going to tell me if they're a

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you if you're right or wrong, because there are correct answers.

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 3>You can lose the game, okay, shameful, what do you win?

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Moment of pride?

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I love moment of pride.

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay. So the first one is from a listener

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 2>named Karen. Karen suggested gift or a curse passengers in

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the window seat who keep the window shade closed the

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 2>entire trip.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah. I guess, man, I've never been so ambivalent about

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 3>anything in my entire life. I really have to choose

0:45:56.360 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 3>the entire flight. I guess gift Why Because if you

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 3>have no choice about anything else about what this flight

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 3>is and why you're there, where you're going, there's a

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 3>chance that it might be that you want to sleep. Mmm. Interesting,

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 3>and I'd rather have it close the whole time than

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 3>blasting you with light the whole time.

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 2>You're right, You're absolutely right.

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so closely.

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>For that reason, of course, because and also for the

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 2>reason if I'm in the middle seat, I want to peak,

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not peaking. That's uncomfortable to peek over the person.

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't want the temptation there. I don't want the

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 2>sun blasting in on me. Why not just have a

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 2>quiet moment with the window closed. There's nothing interesting enough

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 2>for me to see out the window that I need

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>it open exactly. Yeah, just let me be in a calm, dark,

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>quiet place for a minute.

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like I feel like, most likely you just

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 3>want to figure where you are.

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, just do not remind me. I'm on an airplane,

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 2>keep it close. If I'm at the window seat, I'm

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of doing everything, which is I don't know if

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 2>people appreciate that, because if you're asleep and then the

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 2>person opens the window, suddenly you're being blast. But that

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 2>is the power you hold.

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing you have, that power, And like I

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 3>feel like the middle of the day and everyone was

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 3>sleeping and someone blasted up in the windowshed I might

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.280
<v Speaker 3>say something, but I still probably wouldn't.

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I would promise it. I would just sit

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:14.760
<v Speaker 2>in silence.

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.919
<v Speaker 2>I was on a plane recently with a man whose

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 2>elbow was just in my body the entire time, and

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.839
<v Speaker 2>there was nothing I could do about it. And if

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 2>you say something, then they're mad at you, so you

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 2>just suffer.

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if it's the right thing

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.879
<v Speaker 3>to do, but it is the thing that I most

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 3>consistently do.

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Likewise, absolutely Likewise were kindred spirits there. Okay, you've gotten

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 2>one so far. This next one is from someone named Andy,

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and Andy suggested gift to a curse restaurant menus that

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 2>call sandwiches hand helds.

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh curse. Why, I've never heard of that in my life,

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 3>And it feels like sandwiches have quite a good name.

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 3>And do tell me how to eat my sandwich. Maybe

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 3>I want to eat it with a knife and fork

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 3>or chopsticks or just like directly with like taking bites

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 3>from the plate with my face. I don't know. I

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 3>have to hold it with my hands, have.

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Your hands tied behind your back, eating it off the plate?

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I don't usually get mad about

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 3>calling sandwiches other things because I think that that's fine,

0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 3>But in this case, I'm furious, of.

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Course, I mean, how annoying? Why are we it's so cute,

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 2>it's so irritating. Everyone knows what a sandwich is. Why

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 2>are you calling it a handheld?

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:38.879
<v Speaker 3>I get, Yeah, there's a thing here right where would

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 3>you include Burger's on that menu?

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 2>This is the big confusion for everybody.

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think put.

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>A hamburger under a sandwich. I'm not gonna fight with you.

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:50.240
<v Speaker 2>That was the original name. Is that how you feel?

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I feel like this is a cultural loaded.

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Question, so I oh, then let's hear it.

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.319
<v Speaker 3>I feel like the word burger means a different thing here,

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 3>like it means the meat, does it?

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, if I ordered a burger, it's a sand or

0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:02.320
<v Speaker 2>a burger sandwich.

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.919
<v Speaker 3>That's true, But like no one orders a chicken burger here,

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 3>and you.

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Can actually weirdly okay, but that's rare because it ends

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 2>up being like ground chicken turned into a paddy.

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean. And it's like I feel like

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 3>a burger is like that style of like hot sandwich

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 3>with a hot meat, So like a chicken burger would

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 3>just be what you call a chicken sandwich.

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 2>It's and even if it was like a like a

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:23.919
<v Speaker 2>piece of chicken, you would call that a chicken burger.

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just be a chicken burger or like a veggie

0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 3>burger or like a you know, a lamburger or something,

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 3>or a steak burger. Like.

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so we do have like turkey burger, we

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 2>have lamburger, but it's always grounds.

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the I think the difference everything. Yeah, and interesting,

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 3>it's just like if it's between a burger, if it's

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 3>on a burger bun, it's a burger.

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 2>You've got to get into more detail there. That gets

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 2>confused saying if I order a lamb sandwich, I'm assuming

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be oh now, oh no, I would have

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 2>to order a lamb sandwich, not a lamburger.

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing. If you go to McDonald's, everything is

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 3>a burger in New Zealand. Wow, it's like the mc

0:49:57.239 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 3>chicken burger and like the file of fish burger. It's

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 3>everything there would be a burger because it's like burger shaped, right,

0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 3>It's like a yeah, maybe that's what it is. Like,

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 3>it's like the Platonic idea of a burger looks a

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 3>certain way, and if it resembles that.

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Your picture in your mind.

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like round on top ish you know if

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 3>it's square not a burger.

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, now that's that. There's a chain of restaurants in

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 2>America called Wendy's that serves square hamburgers.

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but the bunner's round, and that's a burger.

0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Then it's hanging off the edge. I don't know what

0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 2>their logic is. I wonder if it's cheaper or.

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 3>I hope that they're putting the cheese, the square cheese

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 3>directly on top of the square.

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Ooh, interesting, but.

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they are. We have Windys too, or

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 3>you do have Wendy's. Yeah, yeah, I know Wendy Okay.

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Wendy's is. I haven't been there in a while. I

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 2>don't mind a Wendy's, be totally honest with you.

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:52.879
<v Speaker 3>I used to enjoy it.

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.319
<v Speaker 2>They have a spicy chicken sandwich there. There you go

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. Not it's an underrated sandwich.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you order at Wendy's.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, A frosty and fry.

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:04.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course everybody loves that.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Do you dip? Do you are you like a soft serve?

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Or I will, but not the entire time. I'll eat

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.160
<v Speaker 2>most of my French fries kind of as the savory thing,

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and then towards the end, we're getting into dessert and

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm dipping. I'm enjoying. Are you the whole time?

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm the whole time? Like that's the whole event. Like

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 3>that's like the meal is like if I could, like

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I would, I would have it, play it and I

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 3>would pull fries on it and then like spaghetti ball

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 3>and as the frosty will go on top and I'll

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.319
<v Speaker 3>just be ating that with the fuck is there?

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:34.879
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, is there a like proportionally

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 2>is there enough fry to frosty where like you finish

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and they're both gone, or you like there's still frosty

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 2>left over.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. This is the balance. This is the

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 3>game that you play with anything. I guess it's like

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 3>trying to get the ratio exactly right. Oh, the last

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:53.319
<v Speaker 3>doing this, the last bite is the correct right.

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Works takes over every meal where I'm like, well, I

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 2>want to have a little bit of everything.

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like, don't talk to me working on something.

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, ultimately, what we have to do is just agree

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 2>on Handheld's being a bad idea. Okay, this is your

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:08.399
<v Speaker 2>final one. You've gotten two out of three so far,

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:10.439
<v Speaker 2>so be very careful here because you could win the game,

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and very few people have won the game. Oh, Rachel.

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Listener Rachel has suggested when doctors say you're doing great

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 2>during a procedure, gift a curse. Gift or a curse?

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, oh, gift why? Because I love praise, I

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:32.400
<v Speaker 3>just wouldn't mean to tell that I'm doing a good

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 3>job in my life.

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Liz, as much as I'd love to tell you

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you're doing a great job, You've absolutely flopped here. It's

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:46.400
<v Speaker 2>a curse because the moment we're in the middle of

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>this procedure, they're telling me I'm doing great, and now

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 2>I have to do better. I have to at least

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:52.799
<v Speaker 2>maintain the greatness or better. The pressure is on, and

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably going to cause an injury or something. Make

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 2>me think I'm doing a bad job the entire time,

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:02.239
<v Speaker 2>so I perform best. Okay, This is how maybe how

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I operate my entire life, where I'm just constantly wondering

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 2>am I doing a good job? The moment you're someone

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 2>says you're doing a job. Now, I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you like? When do you so you do? When

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 3>do you want the feedback before when you put it

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 3>on my tombstone?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like report card, Bridgerie did a great job. Until then,

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't have praise, at least directly. It gets a

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 2>little the stakes become way too high, and I want

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to let anybody, anybody down because I

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:34.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't know I was making anyone happy.

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:36.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I'm getting it now.

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Who knows? But uh, you've got two out of three,

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 2>which is not bad.

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Famously, two o three an't bad, need bad.

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.799
<v Speaker 2>It's a good sixty six percent, which you get to

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:50.720
<v Speaker 2>take home with you. Okay, this is the final segment

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 2>of the podcast. It's called I said no emails. People

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.840
<v Speaker 2>are writing in too, I said no gifts at gmail

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 2>dot com. They're in a panic, they're freaking out. They

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:00.480
<v Speaker 2>need answers. The only person they can turned to his

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 2>may of course, and you, of course, so call you

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 2>help me answer a question. Okay, let's look at this.

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 2>We're getting into the duck. Okay, here we go. High

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Bridger an incredibly attractive guest. That's very nice. What an assumption.

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I started a new job four months ago and The

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<v Speaker 2>business is doing a Secret Santa gift exchange for Christmas?

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Are you familiar with Secret Santa? Names were randomly drawn

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 2>and I got my manager. We have had a good

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.719
<v Speaker 2>relationship since he is the one that hired me, and

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I believe he has my best professional interests at heart.

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.040
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know too much about him personally. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to gift him something that will cement my place

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:43.759
<v Speaker 2>as his favorite person on the sales team. Oh boy,

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 2>about him. He's gay and married. He has a dog.

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 2>He wakes up at four am to exercise and goes

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to bed at seven thirty pm. Okay, we're getting red flags.

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 2>He loves candy and desserts. He's in de fancy skincare treatments.

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<v Speaker 2>The budget is twenty five dollars, Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's from Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty five dollars. Oh man, that's hard.

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that's too little?

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I guess it's probably good. It's good

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 3>to have limitations.

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 2>What would you say is a good Secret Santa number?

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I guess it's like for a work

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:21.400
<v Speaker 3>thing where it's for someone you potentially don't know. I

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.279
<v Speaker 3>don't know. Yeah, forty bucks maybe forty bucks or twenty

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 3>five bucks is worth more here?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, what's the exchange current?

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<v Speaker 3>That is about forty bucks?

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:30.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh so it is about for him? There you go,

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>What's on unique number?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So forty dollars New Zealand?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, man, that's really hard. I don't know if

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 3>managers should be in the in the secret setting.

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, because this person's playing a game with their employees

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that I am not comfortable with. Yeah, there's a power

0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 2>dynamic of play.

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:54.800
<v Speaker 3>And the expectation with Secret Center is that you reveal yourself, right.

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're revealing a little bit about yourself and what

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 2>you think of the person.

0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because could you just like remain a secret?

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, But I guess.

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 3>This person wants to make a good impression, so they

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 3>want to write. They want them to know who sit

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 3>in the gift.

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Although with Secret Sanda, you watch the person open the gift,

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.879
<v Speaker 2>You watch their face very carefully. If they seem disappointed,

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 2>you just never well yeah, you just never reveal yourself.

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Let that remain a mystery forever, kind of like the

0:56:20.400 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 2>zodiac or something. Decades later, they're still looking into it.

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:27.240
<v Speaker 2>No one ever knows, but if it's if they're happy,

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 2>even if they weren't your person, you claim it.

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Ah, that's a great idea.

0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 2>And then the other employee that says no, it was me,

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you call them a liar.

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Hmmm.

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.759
<v Speaker 2>And now there's you know, no one knows what's going on.

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you get them two prisons. Have you got two ideas?

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:45.160
<v Speaker 3>And then they open both and you just whichever one

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 3>they're like more. You're like, oh, that's the one I

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 3>got you. I don't know who got you there, that

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 3>shitty one that's so bad that other prison, or.

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 2>You have the good one, like as a backup in

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 2>your office, and if they seem disappointed, you say, oh,

0:56:58.160 --> 0:56:58.839
<v Speaker 2>that one was a joke.

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:03.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. The begain persons is so hard,

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:06.000
<v Speaker 3>even when you've listened all these interests that this person

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 3>has and that they have like kids and they like

0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 3>to sleep at crazy hours. Like it's man and a

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 3>dog a dog, you'd think, like I think would be

0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 3>like easy to go for the dog. It's like if

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 3>they clearly like the dog, right, then you know you

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 3>get a little treat for the dog. I don't know,

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 3>little hat.

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 2>The dog is such an easy target. Yeah, because everyone

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 2>loves a little yeah sweater for the dog, or you

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 2>have somebody paint a picture of it on Etsy. Yeah. Yeah,

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 2>you covertly go to their house and take photos of it,

0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and then they're terrified.

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants a T shirt with a dog on it.

0:57:40.960 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's not a bad idea print, right, And then

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 2>fancy skincare treatments not a possibility with twenty five dollars.

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Those are all fifty dollars or more candy and desserts.

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.680
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of a downer. It's like, who cares?

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 3>You could maybe do something with the skin, because there

0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 3>are things that like, uh, should be two dollars that

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 3>you could probably get a twenty five dollars version. I

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:06.000
<v Speaker 3>don't know, like how much is like a face mask

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 3>or something like a very nice lip bomb?

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, lip bomb? There we go. That feels like if

0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you're paying twenty five dollars for a lip bomb, it's

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 2>got everything you need. Yeah, it's got supplements, it's plumping

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 2>your lip, this kind of thing. It's got an SPF

0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:25.960
<v Speaker 2>of sixty. Although giving somebody a lip treat, your boss

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:29.160
<v Speaker 2>a lip care thing, I don't know if that's.

0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Sign I've been thinking about your mouth.

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's what you're right in the card. I can't

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 2>stop thinking about your mouth, and then your the job

0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>will just be nothing but roses from then on. Yeah,

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:43.320
<v Speaker 2>perfect workplace dynamic.

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is really hot. This is all the questions

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 3>that come in about gifts.

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Most of them, although I'm encouraging recently just asking anything.

0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, why not. If you're so desperate, you should

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 2>ask whatever you want, get in here and ask. But

0:58:57.520 --> 0:58:59.320
<v Speaker 2>then we give such perfect answers that I think people

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 2>are tempted, Oh I need this gift advice, like I

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:03.920
<v Speaker 2>should give flip care to my boss. Uh.

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no way that could go wrong. That's perfect.

0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:11.080
<v Speaker 2>You should be rubbing their shoulders while they open the gift.

0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 2>That's probably the one thing you should be doing, just

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 2>to make sure they're comfortable.

0:59:14.720 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Heavy breathing.

0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well we answered it perfectly. Okay, good, and no

0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:22.600
<v Speaker 2>one can complain. The manager is going to be thrilled.

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Saying that I did a good I'm doing great.

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 2>You did an excellent job. I would say, just think

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 2>that's fantastic. And now I've got this little gift, which

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 2>is so sweet, and I'll wear it and think of

0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 2>you and the band, which is so incredible, and you

0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:38.160
<v Speaker 2>guys are going to vanish for a while. I assume

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:40.000
<v Speaker 2>you're going to go probably make new music.

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have to just like you just have to

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:45.320
<v Speaker 3>keep doing that, don't you. It's like you make something

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 3>good and you're like, is this enough? Yeah, I still

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:50.520
<v Speaker 3>have to continue to work for the rest of my life.

0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>You should have to do one project and then you

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.320
<v Speaker 2>get to That's how everything should be. It's like I think,

0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 2>like working out, you should go to work out for

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:58.800
<v Speaker 2>twelve hours one day and then you should be done

0:59:58.800 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 2>with it.

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 3>So annoying that you have to keep doing it forever.

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:07.280
<v Speaker 2>It's terrifying, absolutely terrifying. When you guys start a new album,

1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:09.160
<v Speaker 2>is it right after you finish the last or do

1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 2>you give yourself a break?

1:00:10.440 --> 1:00:13.240
<v Speaker 3>I have, uh, let's call it given myself a break.

1:00:13.800 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 3>I have not really managed to write a song in

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:16.560
<v Speaker 3>like every year.

1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 2>So say the pressure and it builds and builds and builds,

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:20.840
<v Speaker 2>builds and builds.

1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:22.640
<v Speaker 3>It's and I just need to let myself write a

1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 3>real bad song. Just to write a bad one. It's

1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 3>okay to write a bad one. I have to be

1:00:27.680 --> 1:00:29.040
<v Speaker 3>allowed to write a bad one so that I can

1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:30.320
<v Speaker 3>I can break the seal.

1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:32.440
<v Speaker 2>And then it can become like a novelty or a

1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 2>B side or something.

1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:33.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:00:34.160 --> 1:00:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me pitch you an idea that I think

1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 2>if I were in a band, I would do. Okay,

1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:40.480
<v Speaker 2>every time I released a new album, I would include

1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:42.680
<v Speaker 2>a song from the last album kind of in the

1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:45.440
<v Speaker 2>production style of the new album. It's like a bridge

1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:46.080
<v Speaker 2>to the new album.

1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:46.760
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting.

1:00:46.920 --> 1:00:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm just throwing that up for every band.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe that sound like the B side to the single. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just you know, I'm constantly thinking of ways bands

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<v Speaker 2>can do things, even though I don't play.

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<v Speaker 3>Music really really and ideas I just post.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an ideas person first. Yeah, everything else is like

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<v Speaker 2>a distant ten thousand. All my other skills fall far

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<v Speaker 2>away from think my ideas. But I'm throwing that out

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<v Speaker 2>for you. Could be you could innovate. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for being here. You've got one final

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<v Speaker 2>show tonight. I hope you enjoy the rest of your

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<v Speaker 2>time in Los Angeles. Thank you, and I'll put this

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<v Speaker 2>on and go about my life. Listener, the podcast is over.

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<v Speaker 2>As you've just heard from my conversation with Liz. You

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<v Speaker 2>can move on, you cannot move on, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>blame me. You can do whatever you want. I have

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I have a lot of controls. Sometimes I have

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<v Speaker 2>very little. Today I'm giving you control. I love you, goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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<v Speaker 2>produced by our dear friend Analise Nilson and beutifully mixed

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<v Speaker 2>by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without our

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<v Speaker 2>guest booker Patrick Cottner. The theme song, of course, could

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<v Speaker 2>only come from miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow

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<v Speaker 2>the show on Instagram at I said no gifts. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get

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<v Speaker 2>to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

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<v Speaker 2>He lie invit?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you hear?

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<v Speaker 1>Thunna made myself perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're a guest to.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta come to me empty And I said, no guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Your presences presents enough. I'm already too much stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So how do you dad to survey me