1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast Week Interview podcast presented by 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: t I a A Bank j P. Shadrick with you 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: on Friday, November nineteen. We have the best of the 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: week around Jags broadcasting at Jaguars dot com. We're headed 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: into week eleven the Jaguars host of San Francisco forty 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Niners at t I a a Bank Field, We'll hear 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: from head coach Urban Meyer on the Jags wide receiver corps, 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli on how to improve the 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers in the off season, and Bucky Brooks on 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: the pocket presence of Trevor Lawrence. Remember to subscribe to 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Official podcast Network on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, or 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: wherever you download your pods. Leave us a comment and 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: a five star rating. Let's get into it this week 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: with head coach Urban Meyer and Wednesday's press conference. Looking 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: for more out of the Jags wide receivers. So we're 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: just kind of trying to find the right mix out there. 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: The d J Chark obviously was something we counted on 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: with the speed and size, and then we you know, 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: continue to see church and you know, Marvin Jones has 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: been pretty consistent, Lebisco. We've been moving inside and outside, 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I think we're gonna settle him down 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: in one position. Agnew was a guy that we really 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: didn't count on. It turned out to be provided spark 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: for us. He's fast, he's tough, takes care of the ball. 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: That's one of the areas that we're trying to figure out. 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: Back to Monday and plenty of questions about the receivers 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: and the offensive production leading into Jaguars Happy Hour Monday afternoon, 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Pete Priscoe, Tony Basselli and I dug into the social 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: media mail bag at Zack Bierman, what percentage of Trevor 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: struggles to this point around him and what percentage is 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: on the wide receivers an offensive coordinator. I think it's 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: forty three point seven six four three on him and 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear the other night fifty three 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: uh point to three six four five on Varil level. 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't add up, No, it doesn't. But what did 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: you so you you put it on the receivers, on 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: on him, and then what do you put it on 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: so me, I'll give you a right here's the answer 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: I put on I put ten on the offensive line. 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: I put on the quarterbacks, I mean on the on 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: the tight ends, I put um, I put twenty five. 42 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: I put five on the running back. I put on 43 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and I put on the receivers and on 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: the coach. People added up, all right. I put more 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: on the wide receivers. I put more on the coach. 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: I'd probably go thirty and thirty for the ID probably 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: go thirty five, and because I think the receivers are 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: big problem. Uh, and then offensive line probably ten. Like 49 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: you said, tight ends, I mean yeah, I guess recently 50 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: though it's hard to put it on. Arnold's playing fine, 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: So I'd probably go five percent on them, and then 52 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: the staff for who they hired put the rest on 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: on the head coach. It's a bad offense. It's a 54 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: bad offense. It's a bad offensive. And I will say this, 55 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: I think there will be major changes to the offense 56 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: after this season. Major. Nobody's told me that. Huh new 57 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: often new coordinator, whole new thing. He thinks will be 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: changes at the coaching levels. What are you saying, JP, 59 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: I've heard that, Yes, and draft a wide receiver and 60 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: signed one in free agency. Now there isn't anything in 61 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: free agency worth the dan not getting Davante Adams two 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: first rounders for Davante Adams? No, would you? Yeah? Now, 63 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: why Pete two? I might trade one and something else. Okay, 64 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Would you trade your 65 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: first and second rounder alteringly top ten in the in 66 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: the round next year to the Packers? Would want to Adams? 67 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Is he also gonna morph into a guy who can 68 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: rush the past or two? No, I'm just asking you 69 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: the question, Pete. I would not. I would because you're 70 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to pay him the highest making the highest 71 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: paid receiver league. Fine you immediately? Yeah, you know what? 72 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: He's you know what young? He's not young? Well? He 73 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: howld I think he's older than that? Yeah? Yeah, he'll 74 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: be twenty nine in December. Okay, here's a good five 75 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: years left him. J P. Would you do that? Or 76 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: would you draft? Did you drafted? Would you rather have 77 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: Davante Adams or drafted guy like Garrett Wilson in the 78 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: first round and come back and get another one in 79 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: the second round. I'll tell you what, from from a 80 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: state kid number five? Would you take Garrett? Okay, who's 81 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: gonna be better for the next three years, Garrett Wilson 82 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: or Davante Adams. Davante Adams, but you also don't have 83 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: anybody else. If you get another one in the second round, 84 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: you get too. They need more than one, they need 85 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: more than one, they need three. So the first three 86 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: picks in the draft receiver, oh two or from Ohio State, 87 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: one from Alabama. They're all four year ohiouse steake, guys, 88 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: why not bring them? Which Alabama? Ka? Would you take 89 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: Jason Jamison Williams went to Ohio State. Yeah? Absolutely, I'll 90 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: say this. I didn't. I probably wouldn't make the trade. 91 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know Davante Adams was twenty nine next year 92 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: for some reason, not next year, nine next month, That's 93 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: what I mean. I didn't. Next season he'll be twenty 94 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: nine years old. Yeah, I didn't. I wouldn't make that trade. 95 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: That's all that's getting up there. So I would. Uh. Yeah, 96 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: you draft a wide receiver, though, who's the best young 97 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver like Justin Jefferson or Jamaar Chase? Would you okay, 98 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: would you call? Would you call? Minnesota said we'll give 99 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: you a first and a second for Justin Jefferson. Yes, 100 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: they wouldn't. They would do it? Would they wouldn't do it? 101 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: Of course not. Did you give two first rounders for 102 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson? I think about it type quarterback needs that 103 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: it used to be you didn't need You didn't need 104 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: that guy. You need that guy now. Because here's the thing, 105 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: Peter manage your question. Who won the Jalen Ramsey trade? 106 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: The Rams did? Yeah, we got the two players, We 107 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: got c. J. Henderson and it was chased on et 108 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: M and Chason. But one the Rams did? Who would 109 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: you go sign Chris Godwin? Is Chris Godwin the number one? 110 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: That's a good question. That's what I mean. He's gonna 111 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: be here. Here's what the receiver are gonna be on 112 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the market, Davante Adams if you could get him as 113 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: a free agent, but he won't come here. You get 114 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson. No, Chris Godwin. How fast this Chris god 115 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: he's not a burner. He's pretty good though, he is 116 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: pretty good. How much you hate him? They get some 117 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: feet they can bring back here. They can really upgrade 118 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: the receiving corps. They can bring back Allen Robinson and 119 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Keeling Goal. Oh my gosh, they're both brain hurt. I 120 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: would take a long look at Chris Godwin. How about this, 121 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: how about we get a young guy in the first 122 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: round and Chris Godwin, because everything I hear about Chris 123 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: Godwin is he's a pro, he's a great kid. He's 124 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: a great kid. You get Godwin and your draft Garrett Wilson. 125 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, receivers are because anybody then you 126 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: can fit the third one, and whoever it is, that's right, 127 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: You're keep well. DJ Chart come back on a one 128 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: year deal. Yeah, I mean anywhere there you go, there 129 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: you go, bring him back. Let's move along, showy cornerback. 130 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: They can convert to wide receivers. Are Jaguars Happy? Our 131 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: Radio Monday airs flour to six pm on Tin Tin 132 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: X L A M and Jacksonville and on Jaguars social 133 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: media channels onto Wednesday. And Huddle up with Bucky Brooks. 134 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's numbers have declined over the last few weeks 135 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: and Bucky, John Oser and I got into a conversation 136 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: about Lawrence's pocket presence. Let's hear from the quarterback Trevor 137 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: Lawrence speaking with the media today. John Osier add the 138 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: question about his pocket residents and if he's still working 139 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: on it. I've always had a pretty good feel for 140 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: the pocket and moving. I think the difference in college 141 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: and now the NFL is you know, when you feel color, 142 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: you feel someone getting off a block or whatever, and 143 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: you move. I've always been good at that. It's just 144 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: not moving too much though. You know, the NFL, you 145 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: can only move a yard or so and then you're 146 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna move into more trouble if you move further than that. 147 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: So that's one thing that just smaller movements. You watch 148 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: someone like Tom Brady just can sit in the pocket 149 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: and move six inches each direction and buy himself a 150 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: couple of extra seconds. Like that's something that him and 151 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and all these guys have been playing for 152 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: a long time do a really good job of. And 153 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: that's just through experience and playing and getting a feel 154 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: for it and really trusting it. And um, I feel 155 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: like I've gotten better, but there's always more work to do. 156 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: There always room to improve. Trevor last week sixteen and 157 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: thirty five D sixty two yards fifty nine and a 158 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: half rating, and you see his numbers for the year, 159 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: just under two thousand yards. John, you asked him the question, 160 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: and that's a very thoughtful answer from a quarterback in 161 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: his first season. Well, I just asked because I thought 162 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: he was off the charts good at this early and 163 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: I'm glad we used this because I do want to 164 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: hear Bucky's thoughts on it. Um. I thought he was 165 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: off the charts good awareness getting away from pressure earlier 166 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: in the season. It seems like in the last couple 167 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: of weeks maybe he has has felt the pressure a 168 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: little more. I'm not saying he's bad in this area 169 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: that I think. I think he's really good. I don't 170 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: think you lose it in a couple of games. But Bucky, 171 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: are you seeing anything concerning in the pocket? Where do 172 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: you think he is on this? And? Uh, you know, 173 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on that watching him, because I 174 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: know you watched that closely every week with him. Yeah, no, John, 175 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: I think you point to something. He is a little 176 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: jittery in the pocket, but some of that is because 177 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: he's waiting for his guys on the outside to win. 178 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: In the league that is really predicated on timing and rhythm, 179 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: particularly from the quarterback. When your guys don't uncover quickly 180 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: and you've been hit a few times, it does make 181 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: you change and move around and hope and pack the 182 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: football and wait for your guy to get open. And so, UM, 183 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: I feel like with Trevor Lawrence, like we really won't 184 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: know what he is going forward until he has more 185 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: around him, not only the offensive line but the playmakers, 186 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: because what he needs and what I would love to see, 187 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: I would love to see him take a snap, drop back, 188 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: hit the fifth step, let the ball go on time, 189 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: and guess what the wide receiver is open. It is 190 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: rare that we're seeing those simple things kind of play out, 191 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: and so because of that, that's why this passing game 192 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: has been grounded. They have to find a way to 193 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: make it very easy for him. And the way they 194 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: can make it easier for him is making the game 195 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: easier for the wide receivers to uncover get open quickly, 196 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: so he can live with the ball on time and 197 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: I have to worry about all the chaos around him 198 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: within the podcat. Yeah, Bucky, you touched on something I 199 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: said a couple of times this week. Um, I'm not 200 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: saying that Trevor hasn't had some bad plays in the 201 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Yeah, I went back and watched 202 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: the game he through thirty five times counted five or 203 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: six balls that I thought, Okay, they accurate off a 204 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: little bit on that. But what you never see, And 205 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: maybe this came into light because I'm watching the Colts 206 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: the other day, two or three times in that game 207 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: wide open on crossing routes where easy throw and it's 208 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: a fifteen yard game. I haven't seen that for this 209 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: offense at all this season. And I guess my point 210 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: with Trevor, the people who are criticizing him this week 211 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: as a rookie, if you throw thirty five times, I'm 212 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: not sure you're not gonna expect six or seven balls 213 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: that aren't quite where they want to be, especially if 214 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: the wide receivers aren't winning. But the drops and the 215 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: lack of anything easy, it feels like there ought to 216 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: be eight more completions in there somewhere between. Something ought 217 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: to be breaking easier than this, and they ought to 218 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: be catching the ball a little better. Everybody wants to 219 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: turn this conversation on Trevor into this or that it's 220 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: either one or the other. It's somewhere in between. But 221 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: I think those points I make, Bucky, I I think 222 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: they're valid because I'm making them. But what you know, 223 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. There's a lot of validity to it. Uh, 224 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: it's a lot of validity to being able to look 225 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: at the game, and a lot of times when I'm 226 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: looking at Trevor, I just throw the numbers to the 227 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: side because I don't think it's a really fair way 228 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: to evaluate them based on the numbers. What he's playing with, 229 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: what he's being tasked with, is uncommon for what a 230 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: rookie should be doing. We're basically asking Trevor Lawrence to 231 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: put the team on his back as a first year starter. 232 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: That is uncommon, That is unpresident. That's not really what 233 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: you ask your young quarterback to do. Typically, in most situations, 234 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: you want your other guys, your other parts of the 235 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: team to be able to carry the team while the 236 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: young rookie gets up to speed, so the defense keeps 237 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: to score down, the running game keeps the offense within range. 238 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: The quarterback has asked to make four or five plays 239 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: a game to eventually win the game. When everyone is 240 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: celebrating Mac jones success, us right, everyone is talking about 241 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Mac Jones best rookery we've seen. Look at all this. 242 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: When you dig into the numbers, the majority of his 243 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: plays are running back screens he has the second most 244 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: in the league. Out routes he has the most in 245 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: the league, and check down plays. That's what he's doing. 246 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: He is winning because the design of the offense has 247 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: made it where he is only throwing safe throws and 248 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: that is on a team that doesn't have a lot 249 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: of exceptional perimeter talent. So some of this falls back 250 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: on the play call and the play designers to make 251 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: the game easier for the quarterback. Make the game easy 252 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: for the quarterback, and then he can do some of 253 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: those things that we saw him do at Clemson, and 254 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: this offense will develop a better rhythm because the driving 255 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: force of the offense is comfortable and playing better. Huddle 256 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: up with Bucky Brooks Airs Wednesday at four thirty on 257 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and Jack's social media. 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Samuel 281 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: is second in the league and receiving yards and there's 282 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: a yards after catch machine. Defensive coordinator Joe Cullen on 283 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: the challenges he creates back when when I was here before, 284 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, Coach Meyer had you know Percy, I mean 285 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: they were doing at Minnesota. So and be out there 286 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: in Zebra. Next thing you know, he's the tailback. It 287 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: looks like empty. He comes back in the backfield. They 288 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: throw tosses, crack flips. So you're in past defense and 289 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: now they're they're running the ball and they're doing the 290 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: same thing. So and we do some of that. I mean, 291 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: you look at what we've done with our guys. It's 292 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: it's difficult, but I mean you just get to be 293 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: ready for it, to have your intent is up and 294 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: and be able to play the kind of the look 295 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: that you get. And then there's Kettle, one of the 296 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: great mismatches and all of football. I know this. You 297 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: know you can. You can get two on him and 298 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: he still splits um. They move him around, They put 299 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: him out at number one, they put him at three, 300 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: put him in the backfield. We just getta you gotta 301 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: play tight coverage on him and play inside of him, 302 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: outside of me. Does it good job at the catch 303 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: point where he turns around and and you you're basically 304 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: a little bit out of position. He positions well, like 305 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: a basketball player. But the big thing he does like 306 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: when he when he catches the ball, he gets a 307 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: lot of yards after contact, so you gotta tackle him, 308 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: you know, you limit the yards after contact because he 309 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: does a good job as anybody after he catches the ball. 310 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: The Jaguars defense is playing better the last couple of weeks, 311 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: but they'll be tested this Sunday. More insight to the 312 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: forty Niners mindset after a big win on Monday Night 313 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: football from Kieta Martin, a forty Niners senior reporter for 314 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: the team website. She joined Ashman Sullivan, John Ozan, and 315 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton on Jack's Drive Time Thursday morning. We all 316 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: watched from our couch Monday Night Football, and I read 317 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: all about how the Rams were supposed to just absolutely 318 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: dominate the forty Niners and the opposite happened. So tell 319 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 1: us about it. Yeah, I think it took a lot 320 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: of people by surprise, but not necessarily people in the 321 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: house coming into this game. You know, forty Niners obviously 322 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: not sitting where they know that they should be, especially 323 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: looking at the talent they have on that roster um, 324 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: but going into this game knowing kind of what's on 325 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: the line, knowing what this team is capable of. Uh, 326 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: the mindset was much different. Uh. They've if you look 327 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: at their matchup against the Rams, the forty Niners have 328 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: actually matched up quite well over the last couple of years. 329 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: Looking back, um the last two years, having those seasons 330 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: sweeps and kind of bringing that on and I think 331 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people and if you just look at 332 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: these storylines heading into Monday Night football, You're looking at 333 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: this Rams team with all of these new shiny pieces. 334 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: You've got Matt Stafford under center, you have Von Miller 335 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: who you got in that trade with the Denver Broncos. 336 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: You bring in oh b J. So I think absolutely 337 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: the forty Niners are looking like underdogs, but this team 338 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: knows it doesn't matter who you bring that. This team 339 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: wants to bring their a game and they have so 340 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: much to prove and they were able to do that 341 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: on primetime. Big picture Kana, Uh, how is Jimmy Garoppolo 342 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: handled the dynamic in the quarterback room? When you when 343 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: you take a quarterback in the top five, you generally 344 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: assume that one guy's on the way out and the 345 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: other guy's on his way in. Eventually, has that played 346 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: into the season and the struggles at all, or has 347 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy handled it like a champ? Give us, you know, 348 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: a thirty thousand foot view of how the quarterback room 349 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: has played out this season. Yeah. Absolutely, So obviously, you 350 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: know you're the leader of this team and you hear 351 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: that essentially this front office has jumped up nine spots 352 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: and they are targeting a quarterback. Now. Jimmy said that one, 353 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: he was very grateful that the forty Niners were very 354 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: open with him about what was going on, But of 355 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: course he was upset and I believe he kind of 356 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: there was a chip on his shoulder and that kind 357 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: of played into how he showed up to offseason workouts, 358 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: how he showed up to training camp. Um players and 359 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: head coached Kyle shannahand like all said that Jimmy came 360 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: to work a little different. It wasn't the same Jimmy 361 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: Garobino that we've seen in years past. So now let's 362 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: fast forward to season. Forty Niners have dealt with a 363 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: little bit of a struggle, but Kyle's and and said 364 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: that he is at that moment and at this moment, 365 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the building for the job. And 366 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: gives the forty Niners the best chance to win. I 367 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: know a lot of fans have been calling to see 368 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Tray Lance, but I think we kind of got to 369 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: take a step back and remember that this guy has 370 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: only played a handful of games in college. I feel 371 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: like this is gonna be more of a process. We're 372 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to have a little bit of patients before 373 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: we see Tray Lance kind of take over the entire offense. 374 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: But he might be waiting a little longer because of 375 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: the way Jimmy Garoppolo has been playing over these last 376 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: three games. Um, he's been playing clean football, decisive football. 377 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: Their offense has found a way to get clicking, uh, 378 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Garoppolo has really been kind of taking the 379 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: steps that this team necessarily needed, especially as they're looking 380 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: into this second half of the season. You're trying to 381 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: make that I don't like saying the word, but that 382 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: layoff push. I know we're still it's a lot of 383 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: football to be played, but if Jimmy Garoppolo continues to 384 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: play at the level that he is right now, it 385 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: might be a while until we see Trey Lance fully 386 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: taking charge of the offense. Where is this team's confident 387 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: level right now there are four and five. Uh, but 388 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: they've got to feel like if they win this week, 389 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: they're back in it. Um. Is that how they're approaching it? 390 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: And do you see this is a team that can 391 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: make that kind of push. That's kind of exactly what's 392 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: going on. UM. I actually spoke with a couple of 393 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: guys yesterday and that when against the Rams was such 394 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: a momentum builder, and now it's just how do you 395 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: take that and how do you carry that along the 396 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: rest of the season. Monday Night was probably the most 397 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: complete game that we saw the forty Niners played this 398 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: entire season. It's been a little lopside in other times 399 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: in the season, and maybe at one point, especially a 400 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago against the Chicago Bears, the defense 401 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: was struggling a little bit. Offense finally caught its wind 402 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: in the second and a half of the game. But 403 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: going into Monday Night, Monday Night, if they can continue 404 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: what we saw on the field there and continue that 405 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: throughout the season, I feel like this team has the 406 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to take it to that next level. Uh. If 407 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: you look at the NFC picture right now, you have 408 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: your teams that are sitting at the top, and you 409 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: know who are going to be those teams that you're 410 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: gonna see play January football. But beyond that, some teams 411 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: are starting to slide, some teams are starting to move up. 412 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of opportunity for the Sporting Niners team, 413 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: But honestly, their fate is realistically in their own hands. 414 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: They know what lies ahead and they'll have to be 415 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: the ones that essentially keep them in that mix. As 416 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: we finished off the second half of the season, Jack's 417 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: Drivetime airs Monday, Wednesday and Thursday at ten o'clock on 418 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and there Jags social media channels. Let's 419 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: wrap this week with the Urban Meyer Show from Tuesday 420 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: afternoon and our first look at the forty Niners with 421 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: the head coach Meyer, Jeff Lagavan and I reacted to 422 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: the big Monday night win for San Francisco and got 423 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: the head coaches memories of Nick Bosa, the forty Niners 424 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: defensive end who played for Meyer at Ohio State. The 425 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: Jaguars could be in the San Francisco forty Niners in 426 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: week eleven at the one o'clock kickoff time ten am 427 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: Pacific will take that that's good news for the body 428 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: clocks short week for San Francisco. But coach, it's the team. 429 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched it all last night, 430 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: but they just hammered the Los Angeles Rams and held 431 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: them to their lowest point total and yardage total of 432 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: the season on defense. This is a team that might 433 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: feel like they're back in it. Yeah, they've played great. 434 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't want to say I didn't expect it, 435 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: but uh boy, they were all over them. And that 436 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: started with an eight team play I want to say, 437 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: a team play drive. And at one point on the 438 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: twelve first downs, twelve straight first downs, they ran the 439 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: ball and they ran it hard. And nineteen is one 440 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: of the best players in the NFL, and I've respected him, 441 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: I've watched them. Uh and then I you know, I 442 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: actually made a cut up today of what they how 443 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: how they used them and him and eight five or 444 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: you know there for the reason, that's who they are. 445 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: They're as good a players as they're at their position 446 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Yeah, two guys that would 447 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: fall into that category of being an elite players. And 448 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: when you got an elite player, you gotta find creative 449 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: way us to get him the ball. And in the 450 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: way that Kyle Shanahan, as you talked about Deebo Samuel 451 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: and lining up in the backfield is running back. He 452 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: lined up as a wide receiver. I mean they and 453 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: when you've got a great player like that, they try 454 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: to hide him. But uh, that's something that your defense 455 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: is gonna have to figure out exactly where he is 456 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: at and identify where he's at, you know what he's 457 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: gonna be doing. Yeah, the offense has triggered around and 458 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: nineteen they have also a good back I understand, like 459 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: a fifth rounder, but he's fourth three speed. He's fast, 460 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: only about two five pounds. But make no mistake about it. 461 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: They do an excellent job of moving people around in 462 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: motions and and running the ball. But they also you know, 463 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: the ball. Garoppolo does not hold the ball very long. 464 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: He gets it out quickly. And uh, but number nineteens 465 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: is got a lot of respect from his player. Yeah, 466 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell the running back. You're talking about six round pick, 467 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: and they've got a stable of running backs and they 468 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: like to run the football. And one of the things 469 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: that I've seen in the past with them is when 470 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: they get running the football, and they didn't do a 471 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: ton of it against the Rams, but once they start 472 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: running the football, they love play action. That's Kyle Shanahan's game. Yeah, 473 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: it's a well, it's a combination. Everybody wants to do that. 474 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: You know, that's the game of football. Yeah, you run 475 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: the ball well and we're playing our best is that's 476 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: exactly what we are. We run the ball well. And 477 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: and it's also you don't get to let people just 478 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: pin their ears back and come Russia quarterback when a 479 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: hard play action run because the defensive lineman. It's as 480 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: a fan and as a everybody, just remember you can 481 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: control what the defense does. If it's run action, they're 482 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: going to play the run. If its dropback passion, show 483 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: a high hat, high hands, you know you're facing with 484 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: the nick boss and number ninety one, and uh, that's 485 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: something that'll be very cautious with it in this league. 486 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: And offensively, the other guy that I would put in 487 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: the category is kind of unique and that they use 488 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: him in a different way. Kyle use check the fullback 489 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: slash tight end that they have. Uh. Look, not many 490 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: teams in the National Football League have a true fullback 491 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: on the roster, and I don't know if I'd call 492 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: him a true fullback or not. I just call him 493 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: a good football player. Yeah. They flex him out on 494 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: a big had a big third down completion, like on 495 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: an option route at drag route, and uh, he's he's 496 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: a finisher and block. So they've done a nice job 497 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: putting that team together. Head coach Reban Meyer with us 498 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: on the Urban Meyers Show. You'll look across the other 499 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: side and see Nick Bosa. What is your first thought 500 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: when you see somebody wearing the name Bosa on the back. Well, Uh, 501 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm very close with the family, obviously got the coach 502 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: of the two brothers, Joey and Nick. His father was 503 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: a first round draft pick, his mom was a graduate 504 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: of o High State. And I'm very close at thick 505 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, I just I love the guy. He's a 506 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: you know, talk about we talked about plus two. He 507 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: was a plus two animal. He's a guy that, uh, 508 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: you know, he's got extremely powerful uh force behind his 509 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: past rush, but he also has a great speed. So 510 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: and his sidekick right there next to him is this problem. Yeah. 511 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: You look at Nick Bosa and Joey Bosa, and both 512 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: of them have just tremendous lower body strength, the way 513 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: that they play the game. And I'm sitting there watching 514 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: these guys come out of Ohio State every year. You 515 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: got the bossas Chase Young did. Did you recruit all 516 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: these guys? Recruited those names? Yeah, and he's Sam Hubbard 517 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: and Tae Kwon Lewis and you know a lot of 518 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: bunch of good ones in there. Did you leave anybody 519 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: for anybody else? I mean, holy cow talking about owning 520 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: the corner of the market on defensive ends. Yeah, her, 521 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: Chase Young toward a c L two and a great guy, 522 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: and but we gotta focus on boast and we gotta 523 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: know exactly where he's at it all the time. They 524 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: make a little more difficult because they play him on 525 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: the right side and the left side. Now. I think 526 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: predominantly he was a left side guy, so you knew 527 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: who he was, and now they moved him around and 528 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: that'll be challenging for us. I'm glad we're home. The 529 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: Urban Meyers Show airs Tuesday at five o'clock on the 530 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network. Coming up Sunday, it's the public S 531 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Tailgate Show at ten o'clock on Tin Tin XL Radio 532 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: and Jacksonville and the Jaguars social channels. Then at noon 533 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: countdown to kickoff on the Jaguars Radio Network, we'll hear 534 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: from Pete Prisco, the guys in the Booth, Fred Taylor, 535 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: and we have the final word before kickoff each week 536 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: with head coach Urban Meyer. After the games, stick around 537 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: for Jaguars is Game, Fred Taylor joins us, and then 538 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: later the Scoreboard Show will take your calls with Bucky Brooks. 539 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, enjoy the game Sunday, and thanks 540 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: for listening. I'm J. P. Shaddrick. We'll catch you next 541 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: week on the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review Podcast presented by 542 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: t I a A Bank