Speaker 1: Media.
Speaker 2: Okay, look, I'm making a time traveler disclaimer here. All right,
Speaker 2: this is future me, which is about four days ago
Speaker 2: for you listening, if you listen on the day this drops.
Speaker 2: I recorded the following podcast like in December. Then the
Speaker 2: year started and I was trying to figure out stuff
Speaker 2: with Terraform Colbrew, which I'm out of money, so I
Speaker 2: don't know how much longer it's going to last, So
Speaker 2: please buy merch.
Speaker 1: There is Terraform.
Speaker 2: Merch, and I'm still raising money to try to get
Speaker 2: and by raise money, I mean saving my own because
Speaker 2: luckily I don't owe anybody or praise Lord God Almighty,
Speaker 2: I ain't in depth for Terrorform because only owe myself,
Speaker 2: you know, which is still a lot of money. But
Speaker 2: still anyway, so this show you're about to hear. The
Speaker 2: reason I'm still playing it is because I still stand
Speaker 2: by the ultimate point, for which you will see later.
Speaker 2: The subject of this point is Nikki Haley. When I
Speaker 2: recorded this, there were many more people to.
Speaker 1: Be the nominee for the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: I still we all nobody need to know Crystal Ball
Speaker 2: to know that like it was going to be Trump.
Speaker 2: Vivek was a side show Tim Scott didn't stand a chance.
Speaker 2: And I've made some other points before about Nikki and
Speaker 2: old Ron des Anthos. Anyway, a lot of things have changed.
Speaker 2: One thing I would add now saying this is that
Speaker 2: again I still stand by the point, but the little
Speaker 2: bit of credit I was giving.
Speaker 1: Her I now have to completely retract.
Speaker 2: When on the first episode of this year, of this season,
Speaker 2: I talked about how she admittedly how she admittedly admitted
Speaker 2: you like that, how she admitted racism was real. I
Speaker 2: was like, great, thank you, and that you experienced it.
Speaker 2: The problem is she wouldn't go as far as to say,
Speaker 2: as we still have a problem with racism. I get
Speaker 2: it because of who your demographic is. You're still running
Speaker 2: in a Republican primary, so you have to have your
Speaker 2: head in the sand and pretend like nobody ever did
Speaker 2: anything wrong. So I get that except for a communist,
Speaker 2: that's that's the only evil.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: But then later on, not only did the sister say
Speaker 2: we America doesn't have as racism problem, she went on
Speaker 2: to say it never did outside of just how preposterously anyone,
Speaker 2: I don't care how racist you are, come on fam like,
Speaker 2: now you're just being ridiculous but the thing about and
Speaker 2: this is going to be for most of my listeners
Speaker 2: not that hot of a take, but I think it
Speaker 2: needs to be said. The dagger for me was, like
Speaker 2: I said before, when she said her mama told her,
Speaker 2: which might just be a coddle together story for the mic,
Speaker 2: which I get, but just hey, your job's not to
Speaker 2: show them how you're different, but how you're the same
Speaker 2: fam That's that's assimilation. You're whitewashing yourself. You're trying to
Speaker 2: fit in by shrinking who you are. While it sounds
Speaker 2: great at first that like, yeah, you know you need
Speaker 2: to show like, dude, like you cut me open, I'm
Speaker 2: the same person. The signs that Martin Luther King carried
Speaker 2: it for the sanitation boycotts, when the signs of said,
Speaker 2: ain't I a man? Am I not a man? I'm
Speaker 2: a man, like I'm a human just like you are.
Speaker 2: Like those are important things to do, But that's not
Speaker 2: what the way she meant the way that she was communicating. Now,
Speaker 2: I can't get in her head, but I can get
Speaker 2: in but I can hear the rest of the things
Speaker 2: she's saying. What she communicating is I'm safe, you can
Speaker 2: feel comfortable around you because I'll hide the things about
Speaker 2: me that make you uncomfortable. I don't know if the
Speaker 2: flag can get any MOPI root in that. And for
Speaker 2: the record, your job ain't to show nobody nothing except
Speaker 2: for to be yourself and expose them in you being
Speaker 2: yourself to the beauty and the majesty and the humongousness
Speaker 2: of the world that we're in. They should learn something.
Speaker 2: You learning something, They should learn something. Remember in the
Speaker 2: I'm Not Black, I'm Oja episodes, I talked about the
Speaker 2: one black man in the nineteen people charged in the
Speaker 2: Rico case with Trump. How we as a community can
Speaker 2: look at that man and be like, are you really surprised?
Speaker 2: I think there are some things that can stretch to
Speaker 2: the full diaspora of people that Season eight Chicken Nimroda like,
Speaker 2: don't act like you didn't know you was bending yourself
Speaker 2: into a pretzel. Vivec the same thing Tim Scott did,
Speaker 2: Like y'all act there is no way in the world
Speaker 2: you thought you was different.
Speaker 1: You really thought them white people was gonna accept you.
Speaker 2: At least Vivek had the nerve to not try to
Speaker 2: hide his name like Nikki, that might be your nickname,
Speaker 2: but Nikki yok Brown walks in the room first, And
Speaker 2: why in the world would you think that that party
Speaker 2: like people like listen, dog like when you're dealing with
Speaker 2: folks that have already decided that eugenics is real and
Speaker 2: something wrong with you based on your or that you
Speaker 2: are different than them, based on your color. They've made
Speaker 2: that thing that's not true true by your actions. Yes,
Speaker 2: take a DNA test, do your your your twenty three
Speaker 2: and meters, which I did, which I think is really interesting. Congratulations,
Speaker 2: you're ninety nine point nine percent, just like every other human.
Speaker 2: But social constructs in practice are real. We are treated
Speaker 2: differently because of our skin. Why in the world would
Speaker 2: you think you was any different? You really thought that
Speaker 2: white people was gonna vote for you, You'd like, look, look,
Speaker 2: you could sing they songs, You could wear their clothes,
Speaker 2: you could you could change you addiction, Black people could
Speaker 2: tell their sons don't ever wear no hoodies, you know,
Speaker 2: always wear a suit, Speak clear, get an education.
Speaker 1: You a nigga in a suit.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know anyway, But on paper, she
Speaker 2: they't black thought And this is and the reason and
Speaker 2: part of the reason why I think so is because
Speaker 2: she was actually down to act like she not different
Speaker 2: than everybody else. All right, enough preamble, let's just ramble
Speaker 2: now for politics. I am well aware that every world,
Speaker 2: whatever little subworld you live in, has their versions of
Speaker 2: the mainstream and underground motif the super popular and then
Speaker 2: the super obscure. The more you are into and prefer
Speaker 2: the indie underground version of something, usually the more annoying
Speaker 2: you sound to the masses. Because there's a reason why
Speaker 2: the big box number mainstream people is the fact that
Speaker 2: they mainstream some of its money. Some of it's you know, marketing,
Speaker 2: its resources, and others of it is because it just
Speaker 2: appeals to more people. Listen, I watch Marvel movies. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't know. No obscure comic book lord, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I am well aware. These are a trillion dollar budget.
Speaker 2: So the ones that can take their time to do
Speaker 2: really specific, dope, niche incredible stuff, it's probably better. I'm
Speaker 2: just not into it because I'm not gonna do the work.
Speaker 2: I say this as a hypocrade because I'm like that
Speaker 2: about coffee. I'm not pulling up to your little corner Starbucks.
Speaker 2: That's corporate coffee. I want to find a dope shop
Speaker 2: with the single origin Yuruga chef natural process, you know,
Speaker 2: the honey process. I'm looking at your espresso machine. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the poor over ball. I'm judging if there's
Speaker 2: like coffee grinds around the thing. I'm looking. I'm checking
Speaker 2: all that. I want to see all that. I want
Speaker 2: to know what scale you using. If somebody say to me,
Speaker 2: all my favorite coffee is pizza coffee, I'm like, conversation's done.
Speaker 2: But there's a reason why Pizza Starbucks is everywhere. Everybody
Speaker 2: got that. You're gonna name me some band. I never
Speaker 2: heard of the Stomping Elephants when I start talking about Inkybists,
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, I never heard of no damn stopping
Speaker 2: Elephant And they might be a better band. They fan
Speaker 2: base is never despite the talent they have, they fan
Speaker 2: base is never going to match the fan base of Nickelback.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, the last number one rock song on
Speaker 2: the Billboard Charts, last song that was a rock song
Speaker 2: was a Nickelback song.
Speaker 1: So it is what it is, y'all.
Speaker 2: Yet, and still it's the Year of Our Lord two
Speaker 2: thousand and twenty four, and still the only thing that
Speaker 2: can parallel or even surpass. The polarization of our politics
Speaker 2: is one question.
Speaker 1: Top five dead or alive hood politics, y'all yo, good politics?
Speaker 2: Rock all right, listen whether we talk in basketball or rappers,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna stick there because those are the things
Speaker 2: that I know most about as to what I'm going
Speaker 2: to take this show too. The top five argument of
Speaker 2: many barbershops and barbecues and if you among black men
Speaker 2: or just men in general, which I think we are
Speaker 2: so funny about, Like the passion for which we speak
Speaker 2: about these things is it's it's pretty funny. I've recently
Speaker 2: seen my homegirl Britney. She was doing this stand up
Speaker 2: and she was just talking about how man straight men
Speaker 2: they just they're not really as straight as they think
Speaker 2: they are. Because you could ask them about their wife
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, she's the greatest woman ever. Then
Speaker 2: ask them about Lebron James and they're gonna run down facts. Listen,
Speaker 2: the first one to ever do and when he was seventeen,
Speaker 2: he did this. Like she talked about how you have
Speaker 2: nose lang to stand on when referring to like swifties
Speaker 2: and a bay hive.
Speaker 1: When it comes to our sports fandom.
Speaker 2: Man straight men definitely cannot wait to go to play
Speaker 2: a sport where they all dress up and matching uniforms.
Speaker 2: They get matching outfits, and they go to a place
Speaker 2: called golf where for centuries women were not allowed. So
Speaker 2: no girls allowed and let's all wear on matching outfits.
Speaker 2: It's pretty funny. She's like, it's pretty.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And now Brittany is lesbian, so she could crack these
Speaker 2: jokes anyway.
Speaker 1: Brittany hilarious because she's right.
Speaker 2: It's like, we go into these places and we wear
Speaker 2: the names of other men on our backs, and we
Speaker 2: ready to fight people over for profit organizations that we
Speaker 2: make a whopping zero dollars a year.
Speaker 1: I'll own no stakes.
Speaker 2: The Lakers have never paid me anything, and we wearing
Speaker 2: their names on our backs, talking about we won this week.
Speaker 2: You did not win. You are not a Laker, but
Speaker 2: yes I am. Anyway, Top five, dead or alive. And
Speaker 2: usually you find the discussion breaking along lines of generation.
Speaker 2: My dad trying to convince me that Oscar Robinson and
Speaker 2: Elgin Baylor and Will Chamberlain were just unmatched. And then
Speaker 2: you show me the high to these dudes and these
Speaker 2: little TV shorts. All I can hear is the Harlem
Speaker 2: grow Chotter's theme playing in the background.
Speaker 1: They'm running around.
Speaker 2: And chest passing and one handed dunks that are just
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm sorry, there's just a generational problem here,
Speaker 2: Like I don't see it. He telling me this as
Speaker 2: I'm a child watching Michael Jordan, you know, jump from
Speaker 2: the free throw line right, drop seventy three points on fools.
Speaker 2: I'm of the Kobe era, So why you telling me
Speaker 2: about this other? Like, like I got to watch you know,
Speaker 2: the NBA inside stuff like era, you know, the the
Speaker 2: gold like the Golden Age, and I'm saying the Golden
Speaker 2: Age probably because that's my generation.
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me. Like and I'm from the West.
Speaker 2: So if you ask me top five that are alive,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep naming Lakers except for Jordan. He own
Speaker 2: it now, you Like, I just there's some of this
Speaker 2: stuff that's just like in the arguable, like you're not
Speaker 2: gonna have Magic Johnson, You're not gonna have Kobe on
Speaker 2: this list. You got magic at Kobe, Well, you gotta
Speaker 2: have Kareem Abdulja Bark and then if you gonna go
Speaker 2: old school, hell, the logo is Jerry Wes.
Speaker 1: I just don't. I mean at Jordan. Of course.
Speaker 2: Now I know all you Lebron sexuals are gonna get
Speaker 2: real mad at me, and y'all listen to me politics
Speaker 2: that like Lebron can do no wrong. They got stats
Speaker 2: on like like right now, I was watching his last
Speaker 2: game and they were like, Lebron the oldest in the
Speaker 2: NBA to ever get five steals at this age. I'm like, y'all, like,
Speaker 2: come on, fam, Lebron James the oldest in the league
Speaker 2: to ever at this age tie his shoe with his
Speaker 2: left finger. Just Lebron said, like the man could do
Speaker 2: no wrong, right, which is obviously how I feel about Kobe.
Speaker 2: But again, West West, and we canna argue around time
Speaker 2: you could bring up, bring up whoever you want to
Speaker 2: bring up now, as it's hard to not argue Steph Curry, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, nobody would shoot a stroke like this.
Speaker 2: So you find that it breaks along lines generation, and
Speaker 2: then lines of region, and then just lines of taste.
Speaker 2: And they were just yelling at each other like who
Speaker 2: won the battle between jay Z and nas like and
Speaker 2: then here's what's crazy. You get a live homie trying
Speaker 2: to argue with us that, like, you know, Future and
Speaker 2: young Dolf and then you're just looking at them. Little
Speaker 2: Weirdo was like, what, there is no way they're in
Speaker 2: the conversation with the people we talking about. But then again,
Speaker 2: let me be real, because the OG's older than me,
Speaker 2: will to this day say like the godamn see is
Speaker 2: rock him? There's no greater rapper, And I'm like, I'm sorry, y'all,
Speaker 2: I just I was too young for it. I get
Speaker 2: I get his what he did for rap. I get
Speaker 2: what he did for that, Like no one rapped like
Speaker 2: him like that. I understand. But then again, you know,
Speaker 2: nobody rapped like designer. I get brought it at Lena
Speaker 2: hit A cause it's Kenna Jasna. And some could argue
Speaker 2: young Thug, like nobody rapped like Young Thug, like the
Speaker 2: way he's taken fashion and using that weird high pitch
Speaker 2: that he got and made it a thing. Like like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to as someone that just loves hip
Speaker 2: hop period, I'm not gonna argue with you top five.
Speaker 1: That's a stretch.
Speaker 2: But look as time goes on, how you're gonna not
Speaker 2: have weezy, how you're gonna have weighing on it. I
Speaker 2: don't understand how Kendrick is not in your top anything.
Speaker 1: Coal.
Speaker 2: You can't argue Coal like that. Times have changed, you know.
Speaker 2: You can't be stuck in your ways and not have
Speaker 2: brothers like that on there.
Speaker 1: You can't. I mean, Nikki like you got like you
Speaker 1: gotta have these people on your list. They now have
Speaker 1: bodies of work that prove it now.
Speaker 2: And of course these conversations are clearly and obviously subjective,
Speaker 2: But there are some things that are objective because of
Speaker 2: how long hip hop's been around, the longevity of somebody's career,
Speaker 2: the success of their albums commercially or otherwise, like these
Speaker 2: are verifiable numbers, the intangible of the effects on not
Speaker 2: just hip hop but culture as a whole. And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna argue, when it comes to hip hop, there's really
Speaker 2: the list is closed. Of the top five dead or alive,
Speaker 2: it's MJ, poc Nah's and Big.
Speaker 1: It's kind of unarguable.
Speaker 2: Now, Listen, these are not my favorite rappers, nor do
Speaker 2: I think are the best rappers, but they're inarguable. If
Speaker 2: we're just gonna say top now, the question is are
Speaker 2: they the best? Well, now we need a rule break.
Speaker 2: We got to talk criteria. The next question would have
Speaker 2: to be, well, what about the specificity. Now, let's get
Speaker 2: nerdy here. Now, when it comes to hip hop, your
Speaker 2: boy can get nerdy. The specific art of wrapping pockets
Speaker 2: flow on TNDRAS topics. There are some things where the
Speaker 2: Venn diagram is perfect. Somebody like jay Z. When you
Speaker 2: go through his body of work, it's kind of like,
Speaker 2: this is undeniable. And I'm saying this as like a
Speaker 2: West Coast I believe the West. It's kind of undeniable.
Speaker 2: And Marshall mathers eminem same thing, absolutely undeniable. There's not
Speaker 2: a corner in the house of rap or hip hop
Speaker 2: that he has not mastered. I just you he might
Speaker 2: be a meme now you know, of course it can't
Speaker 2: stand and pull it a hand seeing which out the
Speaker 2: damn camp didn't I get it. He's a meme now.
Speaker 2: But as the art of rap, I'm sorry, y'all. All
Speaker 2: the way down to making radio sync like, there's there's
Speaker 2: just nothing he can't do. Some people would think that
Speaker 2: even my list of like the intangible, like not having
Speaker 2: Snoop on it is sacrilegious, and that's that's.
Speaker 1: A good argument. It's a good argument, but who do
Speaker 1: you take off?
Speaker 2: These are things that ruin group texts, But when it
Speaker 2: gets down to the art of rap, the caviare of it.
Speaker 2: You know, you could prefer a hot dog over a
Speaker 2: Filet mignon, and you could make an excellent hot dog,
Speaker 2: but a hot dog is not Filet Mignon. There are
Speaker 2: rappers who are just chef's kiss elite, and it may
Speaker 2: not be what you like. And a lot of these
Speaker 2: brothers didn't really sell as many albums as the other guys.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna quote jay Z truth be told, if skills sold,
Speaker 2: I'd probably be lyrically a Tai lib Kwalie. Truthfully, I
Speaker 2: want to rhyme like common sense, but I did five
Speaker 2: mil I ain't been rhyming like common sense.
Speaker 1: I think Commic took that to heart and started making
Speaker 1: some hits.
Speaker 2: But anyway, the point I'm making is the skill doesn't
Speaker 2: always equal the position as the top dog.
Speaker 1: I wonder if y'all.
Speaker 2: Could pick up where I'm going with this politically, and
Speaker 2: then sometimes it does somebody like a Ludacris. Ludacris skill
Speaker 2: wise is pretty untouchable, right, But I'm gonna start getting
Speaker 2: a little more obscure for you. Fonte from a group
Speaker 2: called Little Brother el Zi Lupe Fiasco. Come on, y'all,
Speaker 2: boy can rap. My personal favorite. One of my personal
Speaker 2: favorites is ac Alone from Freestyle Fellowship and my absolute
Speaker 2: favorite rapper when it comes to stuff like this, ferroh
Speaker 2: manche Go look up. Simon says, you'll know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. But who has strange enough become the de
Speaker 2: facto figure of someone who is probably better than everybody,
Speaker 2: but is never the choice. It's black thought of the roots.
Speaker 2: He's probably the best if he really is, but he's
Speaker 2: not our choice. I'm going to argue and prove to
Speaker 2: you in this podcast that in this GOP race for
Speaker 2: second place, we've seen this before, where probably the best choice,
Speaker 2: even if you don't like them or not like I Listen,
Speaker 2: I'm not a I'm not a fan of none of
Speaker 2: these people I'm about to talk about, but within their
Speaker 2: space there's a black thought, and I'm going to argue
Speaker 2: within this new twenty twenty four GOP.
Speaker 1: Race, that's Nicki Haley. Let me talk to you about it.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, Nickie Haley, the black thought of the GOP
Speaker 2: right now. But now listen, I'm not saying he is
Speaker 2: like her or she is like him. I'm saying in
Speaker 2: the sense that she's probably the most qualified out of
Speaker 2: all these people, but she ain't gonna get it is,
Speaker 2: at least as of now, what I think. You know,
Speaker 2: I could be dead wrong. But look, I could be
Speaker 2: dead wrong. But before we get into that little update
Speaker 2: on what had happened, was so check this out, man,
Speaker 2: here's what's going on. I just got back from a
Speaker 2: three day board meeting with this org. I'm on the
Speaker 2: board for a called Search for Common Ground. If you
Speaker 2: know my history, you know that before I was on
Speaker 2: a board for this org called Search or Common Ground,
Speaker 2: I was on a board for this organization called Preemptive Love.
Speaker 1: These are peace making organizations, which.
Speaker 2: Are peace building is a little different than like humanitarian
Speaker 2: or relief organizations. It's definitely both NGOs, and they both
Speaker 2: do an element of humanitarian work. But when you're doing
Speaker 2: peace building, these are like ten year processes because you're
Speaker 2: going into conflict region understanding that conflict is inevitable, but
Speaker 2: violence is a choice.
Speaker 1: So if there are ways to create a.
Speaker 2: Viable sustainable society that we're going to work towards that,
Speaker 2: here's one thing I can tell you about the Common
Speaker 2: Ground approach is that Piece is built at the speed
Speaker 2: of trust, and the common Ground approach builds trust through cooperation,
Speaker 2: yielding results that endure because they have widespread buy in.
Speaker 2: They also have what's called a bottom up and top
Speaker 2: down approach, which basically means you do grassroots and you
Speaker 2: talk to the government, and change really only happens if
Speaker 2: you're doing both, if it's from the streets and from
Speaker 2: the offices, and they have access to both. It's pretty
Speaker 2: forty year old organization started by a journalist.
Speaker 1: It's pretty dope.
Speaker 2: Common Grounds or their teams are ninety percent local, so
Speaker 2: like they're in thirty three countries every place they are. Again,
Speaker 2: the staff is ninety percent local, so you from these regions.
Speaker 2: And again these are ten years progress. You know, Piece
Speaker 2: is built at the speed of trust.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, and here's one thing they say, like they have
Speaker 2: this framework that they say, these are the five vital
Speaker 2: signs of a healthy society.
Speaker 1: Physical violence.
Speaker 2: Do you feel safe when you walk down the street,
Speaker 2: So like, do you feel safe when you walk down
Speaker 2: the street. Okay, then we're doing good agency. Does what
Speaker 2: you say matter or Do you feel like the system
Speaker 2: is rigged? If you feel like the system is rigged,
Speaker 2: you ain't. You ain't got no health polarization? Are you stuck?
Speaker 2: Is there just a US versus them? In everything? Institutional legitimacy?
Speaker 2: Can you trust the news? Do you trust the police?
Speaker 2: And sustainable resourcing? Would you rather invest your tax dollars
Speaker 2: in the prisons or youth empowerment programs? Where your money going?
Speaker 2: Do I trust my institution? Do I feel safe here?
Speaker 2: Are the resources allocated fairly? Are my voices being heard?
Speaker 2: Are there people being silenced? Or is there grace polarization?
Speaker 2: If any of those things are there, then you don't
Speaker 2: have a healthy society. Which alarm bell should be going
Speaker 2: off in your own ear right now, because it's us fool.
Speaker 2: We don't have a we don't have a viable society. Now,
Speaker 2: we got debriefed on some different things they've done in
Speaker 2: different areas of conflict. They were in me and mar
Speaker 2: and they made a reality show over there about a
Speaker 2: woman president. That's pretty crazy, and because you know, we
Speaker 2: had a hard time with rape as a war weapon, right,
Speaker 2: and there were no female females running for office, So
Speaker 2: they started saying like how could we spark the imagination
Speaker 2: of allowing like female voices to be heard.
Speaker 1: That's one thing they did in other places.
Speaker 2: I think it was Nigeria, they created a soccer tournament
Speaker 2: with two feuding tribes. And again, now this wasn't Search's idea,
Speaker 2: it was the locals idea, like what are ways we
Speaker 2: can make we can spark dialogue among each other, you know.
Speaker 2: And but ultimately they are in Israel and Palestine. We
Speaker 2: got offices in the West Bank. We're working on relief
Speaker 2: and peace talks and humanitarian a that's happening right there.
Speaker 2: So you could trust that Chiboi prop is involved on
Speaker 2: the ground with the ORG. I'm a part of action
Speaker 2: trying to make this cease fire happen, right, I mean
Speaker 2: across the world, Like you know, across the world, we're
Speaker 2: all like, the shooting has to stop.
Speaker 1: But the question is what's gonna happen after they stop?
Speaker 2: And get this based on mountains of verifiable, studied and
Speaker 2: peer reviewed evidence. Even if your attitude is you are
Speaker 2: only in this for the safety and security of Israel,
Speaker 2: let's just say you that, like you're not worry about
Speaker 2: past Ida, you only hear for the safety of Israel.
Speaker 2: What Israel is doing verifiably guarantees more terrorism. When you
Speaker 2: just carpet bomb, when you respond with like a nation
Speaker 2: nation's worth of army and destruction, you either solidify support
Speaker 2: for the people you trying to eradicate or the group
Speaker 2: you're trying to eradicate, or you just create more your
Speaker 2: birth they're making, their actions are making to There is
Speaker 2: so much evidence of this anyway. So that's where I
Speaker 2: was right before Christmas, sitting down with like people in
Speaker 2: the trenches, hearing from the streets what's going on and
Speaker 2: how it can be involved. I'll drop a link as
Speaker 2: to like our website and how you can support we
Speaker 2: got I mean, we have a whole like merch store
Speaker 2: that are products from Afghani and Iraqi refugees. You supporting
Speaker 2: them directly, like we really in the trenches. You can
Speaker 2: trust your boy props in the trenches. Now that's that.
Speaker 2: Let's get to NICKI hate Nikki not being that girl name,
Speaker 2: which is a little bit of what I don't like
Speaker 2: about her.
Speaker 1: Also, you know, saying or Ted.
Speaker 2: Cruise, your name is Raphael Okay, at least at least
Speaker 2: if a vaik is down to say his name, you
Speaker 2: understand I'm talking about Nikki Bento.
Speaker 1: Oh Rourke Betho, you're gonna go with that? Oh man,
Speaker 1: he's so corny.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, the polls is talking if you could trust
Speaker 2: the poles, just like you know when you hear stuff
Speaker 2: like word on the street, like sometimes you could trust that,
Speaker 2: sometimes you can't. I personally feel like it's almost like
Speaker 2: a yop review. You have to feel really really strong
Speaker 2: to leave a review, like you either really love it
Speaker 2: or you really hate it. But most people just go
Speaker 2: in there and get their stuff and me.
Speaker 1: But we all read them. I just don't know how
Speaker 1: effective they are.
Speaker 2: But the poles are saying she putting a whooping on
Speaker 2: Santos and everybody else, and by whooping, I still mean
Speaker 2: they just racing for second place at least as of
Speaker 2: right now, Like this is a fight for second, which
Speaker 2: is already just funny. Now, of course anything can happen,
Speaker 2: you never know, but as of this point, she's surgeon
Speaker 2: in the poll. I think it's interesting to think about
Speaker 2: why she is and have seen this before and that's
Speaker 2: what the rest of this show is about. So Nimrita,
Speaker 2: Nikki Rond, Juanna Hayley, which is what that sister's name
Speaker 2: is you like rep your hood? Anyway, she plays a
Speaker 2: very unique role, not a very unique role. Actually, her
Speaker 2: role she plays is a role why why I brought
Speaker 2: up black thought. It is a role that happens actually
Speaker 2: in pretty much. I mean, we could go on forever
Speaker 2: as to the role that she plays in almost all.
Speaker 1: Modern elections.
Speaker 2: She is what's called the factional candidate, right, And what
Speaker 2: that means is this the vocab I said I was
Speaker 2: going to give you. A factional candidate is the type
Speaker 2: of candidate that appeals to a very special faction of
Speaker 2: the party that's dissatisfied with the front runner. So in
Speaker 2: other words, it's the person that don't like mainstream everybody
Speaker 2: like this person, but you can see your little crew
Speaker 2: y'all into the obscure.
Speaker 1: For us as rappers, it's.
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I get all the club, all the
Speaker 2: mumble rap stuff, but we in the lyrics.
Speaker 1: I wonte the lyrics. You know.
Speaker 2: So when you have a person like a Kendrick or
Speaker 2: a Cole who pops up and I'm like, that's a
Speaker 2: lyrical rapper. That person is like, Okay, they're an oddity.
Speaker 2: They they everything changes when it talks about somebody like that.
Speaker 2: But normally that's not the situation. The people that are
Speaker 2: into like I said in the beginning, you like your
Speaker 2: really obscure movies. Like Another one of those like moments
Speaker 2: that really happened is last year's Oscars The Everything Everywhere
Speaker 2: All at Once, like Winning All that.
Speaker 1: That was an indie film.
Speaker 2: That made everybody happy because that was an incredible movie
Speaker 2: and it was also indie and it was very artistically integral.
Speaker 2: That don't be happening, right, So I'm gonna give you
Speaker 2: some examples. Even when the strongest the front runners is
Speaker 2: out front, everybody don't like Big Dog. I told you
Speaker 2: Jay poc Nas, Big m every not into that. It's
Speaker 2: people that are like, look, they're still the number one,
Speaker 2: Like Drake is the I mean the people that don't
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 1: People don't like him.
Speaker 2: There is always a crowd of people that's not into
Speaker 2: the mainstream. So who are these candidates? Bernie Sanders against Hillary.
Speaker 2: Bernie was a true believer, like y'all remember that, Like
Speaker 2: Bernie bros. Like that was like a thing. But he
Speaker 2: moved the conversation. People like Ron Paul moved the conversation.
Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson back when I was a baby.
Speaker 1: That was a thing. Jesse Jackson was not just the
Speaker 1: first black dude to get on this thing. You understand.
Speaker 2: I'm saying like he had like a real following among
Speaker 2: like liberal Democrats, and Nicky nim Marita has moved into
Speaker 2: this position. Now you would say to yourself, why the
Speaker 2: hell would you do that? Or tell me a little
Speaker 2: more about Nicky. So if you don't know who Nickcky is,
Speaker 2: you know, well you should by now. But if you don't,
Speaker 2: remember she was the governor of South Carolina.
Speaker 1: She was a lady.
Speaker 2: That was the governor when the Queen of Black Women
Speaker 2: Reknew some baths climbed up and pulled that Confederate flag
Speaker 2: from down to pole.
Speaker 1: Y'all remember that happened.
Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, and then Nikki Haley wanted a pat
Speaker 2: on the back where she said, okay, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: keep it down. It's like helf this why, I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, this ain't a Nikki fan. That
Speaker 2: brown woman actually like she actually allowed I mean, you
Speaker 2: you in South Carolina, so you gotta really be talking
Speaker 2: that whiteness it to be the governor up there? No,
Speaker 2: fam Like, there's some things about your collective experience that
Speaker 2: some of the math ain't mathing with you. But that's
Speaker 2: not that's why I'm not a fan. But that's not
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about here. Yeah, that line you gotta
Speaker 2: draw if you're trying to run for a Republican office,
Speaker 2: where you got to be like, I've experienced racism, but
Speaker 2: racism isn't real, Like.
Speaker 1: I just don't.
Speaker 2: I don't understand how you go do that, But that's
Speaker 2: what they be trying to do. But she death did
Speaker 2: the bare minimum and agreed that that Confederate flag had
Speaker 2: no business hanging out in front of your stay office.
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 2: Then she became, you know, the ambassador to the UN
Speaker 2: under the Trump administration, and in her defense, she ain't
Speaker 2: really talk like Trump. I think in a lot of
Speaker 2: ways she didn't. She represented what we would call a
Speaker 2: neo conservative, which is a dying breed among the Republican Party,
Speaker 2: which is again a question as to like, why would
Speaker 2: you do that? It would be it's the equivalent of
Speaker 2: me as prop still putting out records that are like lyrical.
Speaker 2: Who listens to lyrical? And I'm like a lot of
Speaker 2: people listen to lyrical And I still love the craft.
Speaker 2: I still love it anyway. So the neo conservative that's
Speaker 2: like the foreign policy hawk, the person that's like, we
Speaker 2: still believe that we are a shining light on the hill.
Speaker 1: It's our job to police the nation.
Speaker 2: So we're rooting out communism and fascism everywhere across the world,
Speaker 2: so anybody could get it. If there's anybody struggling who
Speaker 2: need help. We ready to fight. Are we supposed be everywhere?
Speaker 2: The ones that was like, we're gonna invade the rock,
Speaker 2: We're gonna save Kuwait you feel me? Like that's that's
Speaker 2: that neo conservative that's like, we got guns shit and
Speaker 2: lower taxes and shoot guns. Of course, we're gonna send
Speaker 2: money to Ukraine because Putin can suck it. We love Israel,
Speaker 2: right like that neo conservative Trump Trump, them new Trump,
Speaker 2: the new version and the new versions has taken over
Speaker 2: that the Republican Party. They forty percent the maga Republicans like,
Speaker 2: no nigga, they are historic or they are what we
Speaker 2: would call isolationists. It's like, no, that's the whole America
Speaker 2: first thing, like nation first, Like no nigga, like keep
Speaker 2: that money here. Remember how he would say they not.
Speaker 2: He would say to the to NATO in the UN,
Speaker 2: y'all not giving enough. I want my money here, Like, nah, nigga,
Speaker 2: your Ukraine. We try, we try to help you figure
Speaker 2: that shit out yourself. Now they not giving foreign aid
Speaker 2: up to Ukraine. They're like, nah, we need to take
Speaker 2: care of our borders. Too many brown people here. We
Speaker 2: need to kick out all these colored folks. So that's
Speaker 2: that new isolationists like America. America ain't the only they
Speaker 2: have to do in America. You got all these immigrants
Speaker 2: coming here taking our jobs. Like isolationists. They mean just
Speaker 2: us no new friends. And by new friends, I mean
Speaker 2: nobody melanated. I don't hear them complaining about no Norwegian immigrants.
Speaker 2: But Nikki though Nikki old school, she''ll move like that.
Speaker 2: These new Republicans is also like hard headed. They hard
Speaker 2: headed on purpose. Y'all will call them extremists. They like, look,
Speaker 2: this is the only way we move.
Speaker 1: In there is.
Speaker 2: They no such thing as compromises, weakness, nigga, no abortion
Speaker 2: like they just it's just like build a wall. Like
Speaker 2: they don't. They not pragmatic, not in old school neo conservatives.
Speaker 2: They real pragmatic. They get in there, they wheel and deal.
Speaker 2: They try to figure out what's going on, and that's
Speaker 2: one of the things that's been an appeal to her,
Speaker 2: especially around the idea of abortion, where she was like, look,
Speaker 2: I'm pro life. That's for me and my house, okay,
Speaker 2: But as far as like a federal band homie, like,
Speaker 2: all right, you know you gonna need sixty percent of
Speaker 2: the Senate. You're never gonna get that shit passed. So like,
Speaker 2: let's find a consensus, let's figure something out. And she's like,
Speaker 2: at least, like, can we at least like y'all talking
Speaker 2: about prosecuting women going to get abortions? Like that's crazy,
Speaker 2: Like come on, fam. Like so she's very much a
Speaker 2: like I feel you, but come on, fam. So that
Speaker 2: moderate kind of like, well, let's let's just let's figure
Speaker 2: out what we could figure out.
Speaker 1: Now caveat when I say moderate.
Speaker 2: And reasonable, let's let's remember that that bar is very
Speaker 2: low of what I mean by.
Speaker 1: Moderate and reasonable.
Speaker 2: So like, let's remember this, Like again, it's ain't no standpage, it's.
Speaker 1: Just it's in relation to her party.
Speaker 2: You feel me, It's something that y'all who in a
Speaker 2: Republican party that's like, man, I'm not with all this
Speaker 2: mainstream maga shit, I like, I like that underground y'all
Speaker 2: messing with her.
Speaker 1: She also has oh I don't know experience.
Speaker 2: She looking at you other niggas like y'all ain't never
Speaker 2: done this job, like y'all don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: you talking about? Like now in her defense she right now,
Speaker 2: I don't agree with her conclusions often, but.
Speaker 1: She's done the job, my nigga.
Speaker 2: Like so in relation to them, again, if you're in
Speaker 2: a room full of mumbo rappers, anybody can be an
Speaker 2: incredible lyricist.
Speaker 1: So if you're in a room full of people like
Speaker 1: that that's on that stage. I mean, of course, of
Speaker 1: course you gonna sound brilliant. You feel me.
Speaker 2: And the way that she stand up to evake Ryn's
Speaker 2: with cake, you know, like she not scared of that food,
Speaker 2: and that is like music to a lot of people's ears.
Speaker 2: She sound reasonable.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The final question was the one I want to answer
Speaker 2: right here, is like I don't understand why anybody would
Speaker 2: run period, Like why would you? Why have you not
Speaker 2: dropped out? You ain't the number one? Why would you
Speaker 2: do this?
Speaker 1: Know?
Speaker 2: With full well you're finna be second place because listen
Speaker 2: the people I named why didn't Bernie Win, Why would you?
Speaker 2: Why would anyone not try to be on the radio.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense. Why would you make music
Speaker 2: not try to be on the radio. Why would you
Speaker 2: not try to get a grim? Doesn't make sense? Why
Speaker 2: would you do something to not succeed? Look at you,
Speaker 2: Look at the Republican base. You like forty percent of
Speaker 2: them as Trump fans. It is what it is. But
Speaker 2: let's get specific. Look at the Liz Cheney book. Liz
Speaker 2: Cheney's argument is, okay, let's examine that forty percent.
Speaker 1: Though there's a forty percent.
Speaker 2: Inside of that forty percent, there's a group of him
Speaker 2: that's like, hell, yeah, the cement has settled, it's calcified.
Speaker 1: This is who we are. We are true believers, this
Speaker 1: is our savior.
Speaker 2: Let's go. There's another percentage in that group that's like, uh,
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't like this shit, but I'm scared
Speaker 2: to say anything because I don't want to lose. And
Speaker 2: then there's another percent that's like, uh, he's kind of
Speaker 2: just our only choice and until we get there's a
Speaker 2: lot of things I don't like about him, but until
Speaker 2: to convince me like that, like, show me somebody else
Speaker 2: that could pull this shit off the way that we
Speaker 2: need this shit pulled off, and I'll leave because like,
Speaker 2: I really don't like this nigga. He's just our best bet.
Speaker 2: So even in that forty there's a percentage. Now there's
Speaker 2: a twenty percent of the Republican Party that's like, like,
Speaker 2: we cannot stand this full and then there's the rest
Speaker 2: of the forty percent that's like he's just annoying. But
Speaker 2: the part that has blown my mind is that, like
Speaker 2: the ninety one felonies hasn't changed nobody's mind. Like that's
Speaker 2: the part to me that I'm like, y'all don't y'all
Speaker 2: don't care that this he faced like sticking by go
Speaker 2: to jail, Like y'all don't care. Now, the problem with
Speaker 2: that he's just annoying people. One would think that they're
Speaker 2: you could actually convince them. And what I would bet is,
Speaker 2: again using the music thing, ask a jay Z fan,
Speaker 2: do they like the roots? They're gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course I do, right, Like I mean, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, but if but Jay's married to Beyonce, nigga,
Speaker 2: like if they come in in town, you're going to
Speaker 2: that show, not gonna go to the root show you
Speaker 2: going on. I get it. You could probably name way
Speaker 2: more jay Z songs can than you can roots records.
Speaker 2: Most people listen to more than one genre, more than
Speaker 2: one artist, like you can like a.
Speaker 1: Lot of artists.
Speaker 2: But the point I'm making is the danger of what
Speaker 2: she's playing is the more pragmatic, the more she leans
Speaker 2: into the old school neo conservative hidden racism type shit,
Speaker 2: the more she stops appealing to that extra forty, she
Speaker 2: may chunk off a few of the twenties she might get.
Speaker 2: And then you got the twenty independents. You got the
Speaker 2: twenty percent of America that are independents that are like, uh,
Speaker 2: there's a part of Republicans that they would call them
Speaker 2: Biden curious where they like Okay, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: like a little bit of what he'd be saying. And
Speaker 2: it's just I can't stomach this Trump. I can't go
Speaker 2: through four more years. It is their possibility. But then
Speaker 2: there's the reality it is most of the country don't vote.
Speaker 2: Like I said on the Yelp review, you gotta feel
Speaker 2: real passionate to actually leave a review. Either you really
Speaker 2: love it or you really hate it. But that is
Speaker 2: not That's what I'm saying about the polls. You got
Speaker 2: to feel really passionate about this. When you have to
Speaker 2: call some sort of utility service or any customer service
Speaker 2: line and they say, hey, will you stay on the
Speaker 2: line for a five minute brief survey.
Speaker 1: Nigga, No, even if I hated it or if I
Speaker 1: loved it, No, I'm not to stay. I got shit
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: I'm not staying. That's most of America. There are so
Speaker 2: many Americans that just don't vote. Why cause they disillusion
Speaker 2: They like shit don't work. Everywhere on the.
Speaker 1: News, especially if you're a Republican.
Speaker 2: Everywhere all the news all you hear in is like,
Speaker 2: well it's dumb, like it's it's already, it's already by it,
Speaker 2: it's already Trump, Like what difference does it make? And
Speaker 2: speaking of which, Yo, that's where Bernie messed up, and
Speaker 2: where the Democrats are messing up right now, like they
Speaker 2: have all these people come out and vote for Bernie,
Speaker 2: like turned out all these young voters.
Speaker 1: Think about this right now, the whole ceasefire situation.
Speaker 2: Everybody under thirty who put Biden in office is like, my, nigga,
Speaker 2: I don't understand. We didn't vote because we was like,
Speaker 2: this is bullshit, but you sounded different what the you
Speaker 2: were supposed to and you ain't delivered, So I'm not
Speaker 2: coming out next year you want to vote for you again?
Speaker 2: Forget it, bro, That's what they messed up. Maybe Nikki
Speaker 2: can snatch them up because they was like, Nigga, Bernie
Speaker 2: ain't do shit. Bernie ain't say nothing about the ceasefire
Speaker 2: this nigga bien like, what the you just I don't
Speaker 2: know whether you care about it or not. What she
Speaker 2: is banking on is that chunk might actually come out
Speaker 2: and vote, because again, they might be part of the party.
Speaker 2: That's just like, I'm just I mean, she at least
Speaker 2: she sounded reasonable. Again, I'm talking about they party. I
Speaker 2: have found when people ask me, I have a lot
Speaker 2: of friends that are in other musical genres. Like my
Speaker 2: boy Chase Rice. He's a country singer, I believe it
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 1: A man.
Speaker 2: Drew Halcom, you know Americana dude. He played in the
Speaker 2: Macy's Day Parade. We every once in a while exchange playlists.
Speaker 2: He knows Biggie, he knows Pac I'm gonna send him
Speaker 2: Jay Dillar, I'm gonna send them Pharaoh I'm sending them
Speaker 2: black thought, and what they come back and say is,
Speaker 2: oh shit, this is an option. I thought I didn't
Speaker 2: really like hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's who she banking on.
Speaker 2: And lastly, I'm gonna give you one more example of
Speaker 2: why this might be a viable strategy. Maybe she may
Speaker 2: not win, but why do it? Let me ask you this,
Speaker 2: what does Diana Ross, Jimi Hendrix, Katie Perry, Snoop Dogg, Queen, Nicki, Minaj, Kiss,
Speaker 2: Chuck Berry, Brian McKnight, j Any Depeche Mode, Beach Boys,
Speaker 2: b York, Janis Joplin and Bob Marley have in common?
Speaker 2: Oh in Tupac and Sia and Kiss and Abba. They've
Speaker 2: never won Grammys. They've been nominated, they've never won. I
Speaker 2: need you to hear me again. Diana Ross has never
Speaker 2: won a Grammy. You can argue Bob Marley because he
Speaker 2: died young, but Sea Swing from the Chandelier, Lady Chuck Berry,
Speaker 2: the creator of rock and roll, Diana Ross, Journey never
Speaker 2: won Grammys. Just because you're the favorite don't mean you
Speaker 2: the best. These people on this list, they shaped music
Speaker 2: and culture as we know it. What was the point
Speaker 2: of Bernie Sanders. We're actually talking about universal health care.
Speaker 2: Climate change is actually on is an issue. These people
Speaker 2: change narratives in a way that just being the most
Speaker 2: popular can't do. But if you have the off chance
Speaker 2: that maybe you might get it, because all of them
Speaker 2: were nominated, they just never won. I'm not in her office.
Speaker 2: She might actually have a plan. I don't understand. But
Speaker 2: sometimes people run just to force the conversation, or they're
Speaker 2: banking on the next cycle, because remember, this is a
Speaker 2: whole party strategy, it's not just that person. And then
Speaker 2: when you talk about like Koch brother money, they world shaping.
Speaker 2: That's the way they thinking. Or you might be betting
Speaker 2: on the fact that again a lot of people just
Speaker 2: not voting, and like maybe you could get in there.
Speaker 2: The point is just because you in front, don't you
Speaker 2: mean you the best soap. It's my argument. He is
Speaker 2: the black thought of Republicans. This is no distant black
Speaker 2: thought who is arguably.
Speaker 1: One of the greatest, like argue, one of the greatest
Speaker 1: rappers ever.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying in their subgroup, she's actually the most
Speaker 2: electable in the traditional sense because she even got Koch
Speaker 2: Brother's money.
Speaker 1: Like that's absurd, it's gross, but it's absurd.
Speaker 2: She got it, So don't take my metaphor too far
Speaker 2: talking about he called her black. Thought, that's inspecting, Like, no, nigga,
Speaker 2: that's not what I'm saying. But I am saying just
Speaker 2: because you the favorite. So you guys learn something new.
Speaker 2: Called a factional candidate, and they've been all through history
Speaker 2: and they oftentimes have very real appeal. Rick Santorine. People
Speaker 2: really liked him, like they have real appeal, you know.
Speaker 2: Ron Paul was like he was doing great. Feel me,
Speaker 2: but we shall see poor politics, y'all. All right, now,
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