Speaker 1: Hello, shadow Fam, and happy New Year. We have an
Speaker 1: extra special holiday gift for you today. Remember when we
Speaker 1: answered some of your questions a while back, Well, we
Speaker 1: are doing it again. We had so many amazing questions
Speaker 1: we couldn't fit them all in one episode. So here
Speaker 1: we are welcome to this week's season two mail bag.
Speaker 1: We're so excited to answer some questions and make an
Speaker 1: episode fully for you, our beloved shadow Fam. Morning, dumb,
Speaker 1: how are you? Or afternoon for you? I guess it
Speaker 1: is afternoon for me. We'll figure out the time difference
Speaker 1: one of these days. I'm doing good. I'm good. I'm
Speaker 1: good about to embark on some holiday travel and a
Speaker 1: family time, which i'm very much. Do you want break?
Speaker 1: You want break for the holidays? Or you finished? We're done?
Speaker 1: You're done? Wow, we are done done. So a fun
Speaker 1: period of do we get picked up? Wait? No, you
Speaker 1: got picked up. You didn't get picked up. You got
Speaker 1: picked up to do the whole season. Yeah, we just
Speaker 1: did thirteen and then no back order and we'll see
Speaker 1: about season two. So I feel good about it. I
Speaker 1: think I feel good about this one. You need more
Speaker 1: Westerns in the world, you know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 1: It would certainly be a lot of fun. What are
Speaker 1: you up to these days? I am back home for Christmas,
Speaker 1: back home, and I'm about to travel for um. A
Speaker 1: friend of mine is getting married in the Dominican Republic
Speaker 1: and he's asked me to be in his grims party
Speaker 1: and he's getting married over New Years. So Deca and
Speaker 1: I are going to the Dominican in like a week
Speaker 1: and a half. And I haven't just over a week,
Speaker 1: like all its ten days, um, and I haven't planned anything,
Speaker 1: and I need to start planning some stuff. But there
Speaker 1: you go. There's anything I know about you, dum. It's
Speaker 1: last minute travel. It's kind of your specialty adventure no
Speaker 1: matter what. Oh yeah, that's the plan. Um. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: we have a whole bunch of questions from you guys, which,
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you so much for taking the
Speaker 1: time to listen and engage with us and enjoy the
Speaker 1: show and then come up with these questions, because one
Speaker 1: it's so lovely to hear from you, and two it
Speaker 1: makes our drob a whole bunch of eesier that we
Speaker 1: don't have to make them up. So that's great stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna preface this with like I am
Speaker 1: gonna absolutely butcher some of these names. I've tried to
Speaker 1: go through some of them, and some of them are
Speaker 1: pretty simple, but some of them are like they're like,
Speaker 1: they're not not anagrams. What are they called? When it's
Speaker 1: when it's like I R L, what's that? What's the
Speaker 1: term for abbreviations? Abbreviations. There's like a bunch of abbreviations
Speaker 1: that I don't know because I'm fucking old now, so
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of these that I don't know. So
Speaker 1: if I mess it up, like just try and be
Speaker 1: gentle with me and don't laugh. And if I mess
Speaker 1: up your name at some point, I apologize. With that
Speaker 1: being said that precursor, let's dive in. Let's jump into
Speaker 1: some questions. What do you say, Let's go for it, right,
Speaker 1: So we have these sort of compartmentalized into different versions
Speaker 1: of things, which isn't really necessarily very important for you guys,
Speaker 1: but it gives us some other things to talk about.
Speaker 1: So this first section of questions is filming slash stuff
Speaker 1: that we did on screen. So first we want to
Speaker 1: get into some questions about our time on set and
Speaker 1: our favorite times on screen, our favorite on screen moments, Kat,
Speaker 1: do you want me to ask you the first question?
Speaker 1: Go for it down great, leanne leanne l y l.
Speaker 1: I think that's what this is. Man, you think so okay? Cool?
Speaker 1: This isn't see I'm starting off already. This is it's
Speaker 1: it's going to be one of those kind of shows. No, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the kids say these days. I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't know the TikTok's and instead what I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, although I did. Just this
Speaker 1: is funny, and I'll publicly address this now. I was
Speaker 1: drunk with my friends the other day and I thought
Speaker 1: it would be funny to follow some people again. So
Speaker 1: I followed my best friend Harvey, who lives with me.
Speaker 1: I followed Decca, and then I followed Darryl has a
Speaker 1: fan group and we're not sure who runs it, but
Speaker 1: I followed the fan group and not Darryl, and immediately
Speaker 1: got a message from Daryl like, dude, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm so annoyed. So everyone out there go and follow
Speaker 1: this band group because it's awesome. Any who the question
Speaker 1: from Lee Darryl or for for you no doubt? Well yeah,
Speaker 1: of course I follow it for sure, um. Alright, So
Speaker 1: question number one, what what time did you have to
Speaker 1: wake up on set? What time did you have to
Speaker 1: wake up on set? Is an interesting one because Cat
Speaker 1: likes to take naps on set. I'm assuming the question
Speaker 1: is sort of based around what time do we have
Speaker 1: to wake up to go to set? Um, and that
Speaker 1: is fully dependent. We were on one of those kind
Speaker 1: of shows where do you know what? I asked you
Speaker 1: the question I don't know why I'm diving in and answering.
Speaker 1: I asked you the question you go nuts. Well, that's
Speaker 1: all right, Well, I I think I was going to
Speaker 1: say just about the same thing you were. Most likely
Speaker 1: is that, you know, it all depends on what we're
Speaker 1: shooting and when, because a lot of times we would
Speaker 1: end up shooting nights because you know, vampires, etcetera. It's
Speaker 1: easier to hunt shadows in the dark. No, but we uh,
Speaker 1: we would have to wake up. You know, we lived
Speaker 1: probably about an hour from our studio, which most of
Speaker 1: the time that's where we would be. And then I
Speaker 1: think it's all depended on hair and makeup time. So
Speaker 1: my hair and makeup time I think was about an
Speaker 1: hour and a bit, which it's interesting on a show
Speaker 1: like this because our time was usually pretty similar, which
Speaker 1: isn't usually the case for you know, folks with extensively
Speaker 1: long hair as I have, but it's because of the
Speaker 1: ruins and your tattoos and all that stuff, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that doubled me up with time. So the big thing
Speaker 1: for me was if I was shirtless or not, if
Speaker 1: I'm if I have my shirt on. And we used
Speaker 1: to talk about this with costume quite a lot. If
Speaker 1: there was an opportunity to and it made sense for
Speaker 1: the story, we would tend to be in long sleeves
Speaker 1: with the sleeves rolled down that way. Nobody else has
Speaker 1: to get up early, not just me, but like the
Speaker 1: hair and makeup team who also have to come in
Speaker 1: early to get the rooms ready to cover up my
Speaker 1: tattoos on and so forth. Nobody has to come in
Speaker 1: any earlier, and everyone gets an next hour of sleep.
Speaker 1: And like Kat was mentioning, you know when we do
Speaker 1: those night shoots Faturday's where everyone's least favorites, where you
Speaker 1: start on a Friday afternoon and you don't finish till
Speaker 1: not even the early hours, sometimes on a Saturday morning,
Speaker 1: sometimes like middle of the morning Saturday morning, and you've
Speaker 1: just worked through the night, nobody wants to come in
Speaker 1: that next day an hour earlier. Nobody wants to do
Speaker 1: it because everyone's tired. You need your rest. It's really important,
Speaker 1: and it's important to be productive and to be a
Speaker 1: decent part of the team. So we would work out
Speaker 1: times where if it was if it was necessary, then
Speaker 1: I would be shirtless, when my sleeves would be shorter.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't necessary, it wouldn't. However, the shirtless scenes,
Speaker 1: they have to airbrush my tattoos off first, so they
Speaker 1: cover them completely, which takes about give or take. Normally
Speaker 1: there's two or three people doing it, so give or
Speaker 1: take that takes about between twenty and fourteen minutes. And
Speaker 1: then you have to apply the ruins on top of that,
Speaker 1: which takes another sort of between twenty and forty minutes,
Speaker 1: so about just over an hour give or take. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which you know is not an insignificant amount of time.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes if we were feeling extra ambitious or
Speaker 1: just an insane person like myself, we would get up
Speaker 1: in the morning and go train with our trainer first
Speaker 1: before work or after work or you know that's true. Actually,
Speaker 1: because fight scenes as well, like the fight scenes days
Speaker 1: would come in early very often UM and run it
Speaker 1: because most of the time we had run the fight
Speaker 1: scene but in the studio space, so we don't know
Speaker 1: what the set looks like yet, we don't know where.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got a scene. I just rewatched with
Speaker 1: a friend the fight scene with the first one in
Speaker 1: the Vampire. Then we didn't know what that was going
Speaker 1: to look like, like they sort of set it up
Speaker 1: with boxes sort of vaguely like that, But I didn't
Speaker 1: know where the paddle was going to come from, where
Speaker 1: where are going to come from, where the vampires are
Speaker 1: coming from, where they're going to fall, where it's safe
Speaker 1: for them to fall, where it's safe for me to fall.
Speaker 1: You don't know any of that. So if you have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get up and get in UM and
Speaker 1: see that space and even just like it's almost like meditating,
Speaker 1: you just sit in the space and sort of pan
Speaker 1: everything through in your head as best you can. This
Speaker 1: goes here, this is when this happens, and whatever. And
Speaker 1: then when the changes do inevitably happen, which we've spoken
Speaker 1: about on the podcast before, it's a little easier. So
Speaker 1: this is a really tricky question. To answer in relation
Speaker 1: to what when we wake up, because there is no
Speaker 1: answer to it. The standard answer is we get given
Speaker 1: a time that we need to be in work, which
Speaker 1: is on It's called the cool sheets, and the cool
Speaker 1: sheet has all of the information we need for the day.
Speaker 1: Who's going to be in, the phone numbers, we need
Speaker 1: to call, the scenes that we're gonna be doing, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, times, dates, whether all that sort of stuff, um,
Speaker 1: and next to our names will say pick up at
Speaker 1: this time, arrive on set at this time here, and
Speaker 1: make up at this time on set this time. If
Speaker 1: it's one of those days where we decided we want
Speaker 1: to be in earlier for whatever reason, you have to
Speaker 1: approa some ahead of time and say, look, I loves
Speaker 1: come in I would love to see this blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But the standard answer is we wake up when we're
Speaker 1: told to wake up. Yeah, it's very true, I mean
Speaker 1: we That's that's the beauty of being an actor on
Speaker 1: a show like this is you really get told everything
Speaker 1: where to do. There was I was actually on the
Speaker 1: set of Arrow and I realized this kind of analogy,
Speaker 1: and then one of our camera operators added the little
Speaker 1: cherry on top. But we're basically kindergarteners, you know. We
Speaker 1: get told we can have a little chair with our
Speaker 1: name on it, we have a little cubby with our
Speaker 1: name on it. Somebody sets our clothes and make sure
Speaker 1: our hair looks nice, and then they we have somebody
Speaker 1: who walks us everywhere we go and tells everyone else
Speaker 1: when we go to the bathroom and when we need
Speaker 1: a snack. And people always ask that. I was going
Speaker 1: to say snacks as a big one, when when you're grumpy,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna bring you snacks and like a juice box
Speaker 1: and be like, just do you calm down, you It's
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. But then one of the camera upside
Speaker 1: arrow turned to me one day and went, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're the parents that record you guys play together. Jeez.
Speaker 1: So that's basically the crux of it. Very simple question,
Speaker 1: very long winded answer. I am so sorry. I wonder
Speaker 1: if they're talking to me like this. Well, here's our
Speaker 1: next question from l Barrett too to six three. What
Speaker 1: was your absolute favorite moment from each season to either
Speaker 1: film or watch? Okay, from each season a season. Season
Speaker 1: one isn't easy one for me because it's the same
Speaker 1: scene to both film and because I because I don't
Speaker 1: do a huge amount in this scene, I get to
Speaker 1: sort of witness it as it's happening for the first time.
Speaker 1: It's almost a bit like watching a play, which is
Speaker 1: really cool. And then so being a part of that,
Speaker 1: being a part of the filming process was very cool. Um,
Speaker 1: it took us two days. I'm giving you clues, you're
Speaker 1: going to figure out which one this is, Oh, I
Speaker 1: already know, and then then to watch it again. We
Speaker 1: all watched it together live at the free Form offices
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and we got to see it as
Speaker 1: the audience saw it, and so we knew what was
Speaker 1: coming and with the build up and stuff. That was amazing.
Speaker 1: And it's the Lydia Alec wedding that's gate crashed by
Speaker 1: Magnus in the most fantastic way. And that kiss. Getting
Speaker 1: to see that kiss for the first time because nobody
Speaker 1: really knew. I'm not even sure if they knew exactly
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. Um, and the and the
Speaker 1: way Matt initiates it. I remember I remember seeing it
Speaker 1: and thinking, holy sh he's going to punch him, like
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things where like the director
Speaker 1: hasn't told us, but this is he wants like a
Speaker 1: genuine reaction from us. So this is what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: because that's what it looks like. You grabbed him by
Speaker 1: the pearls and there's a half a second there where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I really don't know what's going to
Speaker 1: happen there. Um. And it's such a genuine, raw, sort
Speaker 1: of almost like an epiphany, like an emotional physical epiphany,
Speaker 1: which is it was a really cool thing to watch
Speaker 1: and we've said it before, we say it again a
Speaker 1: thousand times. The boys do such an amazing job in
Speaker 1: that scene. Um. And that was my favorite in season
Speaker 1: one two to watch and be a part of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you took the words right out of my
Speaker 1: mouth on that one. Um. So I have really nothing
Speaker 1: to add other than you know, it's It was sort
Speaker 1: of a celebration of the season as well, because we
Speaker 1: were in our second to last episode and we had
Speaker 1: all been so separated for so long, and it was
Speaker 1: so nice to have everyone together in one room and
Speaker 1: just be able to celebrate the story that we told
Speaker 1: for so long. Spoiler that might be our answer for
Speaker 1: season three. Maybe I will say I think I know
Speaker 1: our answer for season two, because I think we have
Speaker 1: the same answer for that as well. At the whole
Speaker 1: sequence at lake Land, with Allan and the Sword and
Speaker 1: the lake and the Angel and you and I and
Speaker 1: this all those fights, it was such we were we
Speaker 1: were exhausted, you know, and it was such an epic
Speaker 1: thing and something that we've built up for so long,
Speaker 1: and the hard work that every single department put in,
Speaker 1: despite you know, weather adversities and how you know, we
Speaker 1: had to, as you said before, change things at the
Speaker 1: last minute and dealing with drones and dealing with you know,
Speaker 1: different elements that we had to bring together to make
Speaker 1: this moment as as epic as the books built it
Speaker 1: up to be and as epic as the fans deserved.
Speaker 1: And you know, I really think that was that was
Speaker 1: so well done by the entire team. And we had
Speaker 1: been crying for seventeen hours and fighting and in the
Speaker 1: rain and everything else, and yet I think we all
Speaker 1: left set that day knowing that we've done something special
Speaker 1: and knowing that we'd accomplished that goal, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that I mean I couldn't even stand up in the
Speaker 1: shower at the end of the time for that moment.
Speaker 1: It was hard. I mean it was because it wasn't
Speaker 1: even like that was the last scene of that whole
Speaker 1: sequence that we filmed semi chronologically, so there was the
Speaker 1: execution fight and then there was there and this was
Speaker 1: also correct me if I'm wrong, but that was all
Speaker 1: done in the same area, right Like, we pretty much
Speaker 1: went from like dusk with the execution straight to the
Speaker 1: edge of Lake Lynn and did those scenes one after
Speaker 1: the other. So it was it was definitely a hard
Speaker 1: work day. There is there's a certain amount of adrenaline
Speaker 1: that you get, especially from I mean, just doing what
Speaker 1: you love anyway gives you a decent amount of adrenaline,
Speaker 1: but then being on locations, there's something really special about
Speaker 1: that because you're seeing the thing live. They're not going
Speaker 1: to add very much to it. Obviously the angel was
Speaker 1: added later spoiler, but we didn't have one of those
Speaker 1: in life. But actually being able to look out across
Speaker 1: the lake that we've seen in writing and we'd rehearsed
Speaker 1: and we've done all this stuff and then that actually
Speaker 1: be there and see it, it's a really cool thing.
Speaker 1: So you do get this level of adrenaline which sort
Speaker 1: of helps you through to a certain extent. But then
Speaker 1: when sort of twelve o'clock and then it's one in
Speaker 1: the morning, and then it's two in the morning, and
Speaker 1: that adrenaline starts to dip a little, and you're sort
Speaker 1: of on cigarettes and coca cola and that's the only
Speaker 1: thing that's really keeping you through. It's like sugar and
Speaker 1: you don't smoke, but that's what I was doing, And
Speaker 1: I was smoking cigarettes and like drinking soda every two
Speaker 1: seconds just to keep like little sugar butters going through
Speaker 1: my body. But like Cat says, you know, you when
Speaker 1: there's something really fantastic about leaving those days and going
Speaker 1: m m, that's that's that was everything that it should
Speaker 1: have been. It was if we nailed that scene, absolutely nail.
Speaker 1: That says nothing I would go back and change, which
Speaker 1: especially is I think any version of artists always look
Speaker 1: back at their work and hate just a tiny bit
Speaker 1: of it. Always. You always look back and there's always
Speaker 1: a part of you that's like, oh, man, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have done that, or I wouldn't have done that. And again,
Speaker 1: part of the beauty of it, that sort of self
Speaker 1: sacrificial nature pushes you to strive to be a little
Speaker 1: better every time, which is a good thing. It's a
Speaker 1: positive thing if you use it in the right way.
Speaker 1: But I don't feel that way about that scene, and
Speaker 1: I know you don't feel that way about that scene,
Speaker 1: which is rare and and quite lovely. Indeed, what about
Speaker 1: season three down see I alluded to it earlier and
Speaker 1: now I can't think of anything else for two reasons. One,
Speaker 1: exactly as you mentioned before, it's an amalgam of how
Speaker 1: the story came together, what it represents, how it how
Speaker 1: it brings people from different facets of life together, and
Speaker 1: how they can be happy no matter what their challenges are,
Speaker 1: no matter what their backgrounds are. Would ever, so, the
Speaker 1: wedding scene, the actual wedding scene at the end of
Speaker 1: season three, I think encapsulates a lot of what we
Speaker 1: were trying to tell in our story. And then on
Speaker 1: top of that, and we have mentioned this before briefly,
Speaker 1: but it was one of those very few scenes where
Speaker 1: everyone was there. Everyone people from season one. You know,
Speaker 1: we spoke about it when we had Glenn on. Glenn
Speaker 1: was with us. Glenn camera operator, was with us from
Speaker 1: season one, from from day day one. He was with
Speaker 1: us and was with us on that last day and
Speaker 1: for those who don't know, we've definitely mentioned this before,
Speaker 1: but we had the rap party immediately after filming that scene,
Speaker 1: immediately after filming it on the sets that we all
Speaker 1: we all it worked on, we all lived on for
Speaker 1: four and a half years. They had champagne waiting for us,
Speaker 1: and that's where we had our rap party. So so
Speaker 1: filming that whole collection, the wedding and then the after
Speaker 1: party and then the our after party as well, and
Speaker 1: my dad was there, which was really lovely, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was a pretty special experience around because
Speaker 1: again that's not that's very uncommon in so many ways
Speaker 1: to have your last dayby with all of the people
Speaker 1: that you've worked with. Never happened to have its. In fact,
Speaker 1: almost always your last day is like on your own
Speaker 1: and it's like right at the end of the day
Speaker 1: and it's like kind of you're just like, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get out of here. Everyone's time screen shooting somewhere like
Speaker 1: totally yeah, we just need to smile into like this
Speaker 1: camera at one point and that's it. And then to
Speaker 1: have to be on a set obviously has on that
Speaker 1: set that you know, the key set, is fairly uncommon.
Speaker 1: And then to have your rap party one the day
Speaker 1: of never happens, and to to have it on a
Speaker 1: set that we grew up in, literally grew up in
Speaker 1: like four years of my life was was on that
Speaker 1: set all day, every day is unheard of. So that
Speaker 1: was that was really cool. That was really really special.
Speaker 1: And I feel the exact same way. You know, even
Speaker 1: having Isaiah come back, who was off doing something else
Speaker 1: and has only been there for a couple of days,
Speaker 1: and I think even Alan showed up, and you know,
Speaker 1: everyone came and even folks who weren't working that day
Speaker 1: just keep to be there. And you know, something we
Speaker 1: don't talk a ton about because we get so caught
Speaker 1: up and everything is todd You know, our showrunner Ted
Speaker 1: Lapkin came up to direct that episode and he hadn't
Speaker 1: directed the show before and was so brilliant in creating
Speaker 1: such a sacred space for that scene and creating such
Speaker 1: a beautiful every single detail of the wedding, from the
Speaker 1: flowers to the way everything was arranged, to you know,
Speaker 1: having Nicola walk walk Harry down the aisle, to all
Speaker 1: of these little elements just brought all of us to
Speaker 1: tears so many times because it was the connective tissue
Speaker 1: of everything we'd set up and everything we'd worked for,
Speaker 1: and everything that we had put our heart and souls
Speaker 1: into for so many years, you know, down to there
Speaker 1: were certain pieces of the dialogue that I in my
Speaker 1: final scene with Alberto, my final scene with Nicola, my
Speaker 1: final scene with you, I could barely even say the
Speaker 1: lines without bursting into tears because they were so poignant
Speaker 1: to everything that not only we had felt as characters,
Speaker 1: but everything that we felt as people over that time,
Speaker 1: and everything that we've been through together, and this family
Speaker 1: that we've made and this team effort that we've built,
Speaker 1: and it was it was such a celebration but also
Speaker 1: a lovely send off and a lovely farewell to this story. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree. Wow, we're not getting to these very quickly.
Speaker 1: Ship that question too, Yeah, okay, well there you go.
Speaker 1: Jelleka dot Art has asked a scene you weren't happy with,
Speaker 1: but upon watching thought you did a good job. Interesting.
Speaker 1: So this actually happens a lot, I find. And I
Speaker 1: was talking to a director of friend of mine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was talking to a director of friend of mine
Speaker 1: about this, and it's sort of illuminated some some other
Speaker 1: a new perspective for me. You know, when when you
Speaker 1: are shooting at such a fast pace and you're doing
Speaker 1: so much. As you said, artists often are at least
Speaker 1: people who really care about what they're doing, are often
Speaker 1: very critical of themselves and often find because we're always
Speaker 1: striving to be better and always striving to improve, and
Speaker 1: so often when you get on set and there on
Speaker 1: the day, it turns out differently than you would have expected,
Speaker 1: or there's some element that it doesn't necessarily go the
Speaker 1: way you thought of in your head, and at times
Speaker 1: that can be a bit disappointing or frustrating, or or
Speaker 1: you just go, oh, man, I wish I could have
Speaker 1: or I wish I had done this retrospectively. But a
Speaker 1: director friend of mine I was talking to about this,
Speaker 1: and he said to me, it's never the take that
Speaker 1: the actor likes that's the best take. It's the take
Speaker 1: that they are unsure of because they because they're unsure,
Speaker 1: it means they weren't self evaluating while they were in
Speaker 1: the scene. They were just actually in the moment and
Speaker 1: actually living the moment and lost themselves in the story.
Speaker 1: So they didn't have a sort of accurate representation of
Speaker 1: how the take went. In quotes as it were, Um,
Speaker 1: which that was interesting, But I don't know, how do
Speaker 1: you feel that makes total sense? I think there's a
Speaker 1: million different actors in a million different ways that actors
Speaker 1: work because everyone does it a slightly different way. I
Speaker 1: don't I think the only there are definitely times where
Speaker 1: I wish I had done something differently, but it's it's
Speaker 1: upon watching more than it is like on the day.
Speaker 1: On the day, I really do try and lose myself
Speaker 1: as much as I can, to the point where like
Speaker 1: there are times where I don't really remember doing things,
Speaker 1: and that's when I know that it was good because
Speaker 1: exactly just saying like that, whatever I was saying in
Speaker 1: those moments was my emotions behind it were connected to
Speaker 1: whatever that other person, whatever that thing, that object, whatever
Speaker 1: it was, and and trying to sort of use your
Speaker 1: imagination to to put that into reality for yous um
Speaker 1: that That's what I've always tried to do to to
Speaker 1: project these characters emotions. But I think definitely sometimes where
Speaker 1: I've been disappointed is where we ran out of time,
Speaker 1: where you knew you had no choice, but you had
Speaker 1: to get this the first time, and the sort of
Speaker 1: not standard really but like um, what does seem to
Speaker 1: happen quite a bit as you do. You know, you
Speaker 1: do a big wide shot first, normally that's what you'll
Speaker 1: get first, and you sort of there some ship out then,
Speaker 1: like you figure some ship out, you figure out what
Speaker 1: the other actor is gonna do, and you have that
Speaker 1: sort of conversation of like, oh interesting, cool, okay, great,
Speaker 1: do that again. Because because you surprised me with it
Speaker 1: and and I didn't, then it took me out of
Speaker 1: it because I was watching it and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was a good choice, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: ship Now Dom's thinking not Jason, So just hit me
Speaker 1: with it again. I'm gonna get back into Jason. We
Speaker 1: can react the way we need to react, and then
Speaker 1: you come in closer and closer and closer bit by bit,
Speaker 1: and then you sort of get these cool little nuances
Speaker 1: and whatever. And a good example of that actually is
Speaker 1: the last scene with Alberta and either fight scene um
Speaker 1: was sort of original written and originally rehearsed with it
Speaker 1: was like anger. I was angry that this thing that
Speaker 1: had happened, and we did the first big wide take
Speaker 1: and Alberto and I went aside and we're like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel it's not working, like it doesn't feel quite right.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it doesn't feel right, but it
Speaker 1: feels like I'm fighting my emotions and and whatever. And
Speaker 1: I think Alberto even said like let those emotions go,
Speaker 1: like let yourself be entirely vulnerable, because we've reached a
Speaker 1: place Simon and Jason were comfortable with each other, like
Speaker 1: let your emotions go. And I was like, okay, shot, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me try that. And we tried it and we went,
Speaker 1: oh wow, yeah, no, there that's where that all felt correct.
Speaker 1: And when you run out of time, you don't have
Speaker 1: that play space, you don't have that section there, and
Speaker 1: that I know. I've done scenes, not just in shadow,
Speaker 1: and there's and all sorts of different productions where we
Speaker 1: ran out of time and that was there, like, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish I had I wish I had a couple more.
Speaker 1: I wish I In fact, that's a very common act
Speaker 1: of phrases, I wish I had one more, I wish
Speaker 1: I had one more take because I could feel that
Speaker 1: there was like something brewing on the precipice. It's like
Speaker 1: when you're when you're in the shower and you want
Speaker 1: to re have a conversation that you've had previously. You
Speaker 1: always you always, even as yourself, you always think of
Speaker 1: the like ship there it was, that's what I should
Speaker 1: have said, That's what I should have said, because that's
Speaker 1: how I genuinely feel. But it took me a couple
Speaker 1: of times of having that conversation to get it out.
Speaker 1: And it's very similar when you're on set. There's there
Speaker 1: are times where you do need to have that conversation
Speaker 1: more than once to go. This is actually how I
Speaker 1: feel about it. And there are times when we just
Speaker 1: don't have time. The big one is chasing sunlight or
Speaker 1: sunlight's chasing uts um. You know, if the scene needs
Speaker 1: to be at nighttime and the sun is coming up,
Speaker 1: you've only got so much time. You've only got until
Speaker 1: the sun comes up. So I find those to be
Speaker 1: very disappointing days, but there's nothing to be done about them.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Indeed, so I think let's move
Speaker 1: on to the casting character's section. You know, they people
Speaker 1: wanted to know about the cast and the characters in
Speaker 1: the Shadow World and have all felt about them. The
Speaker 1: j Uiera good jobs, So sorry, V how you era?
Speaker 1: Perhaps I'm butchering this name I'm so sorry. Wants to
Speaker 1: know in what ways do we feel as though we're
Speaker 1: like our characters. We've been asked this one before, definitely,
Speaker 1: probably not by yourself. It's I think Jason became more
Speaker 1: like me as it went on. No, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if that's true. I think that's just something that's
Speaker 1: that's such a press answer, that's such as someone told
Speaker 1: me to say that. That's just that's just not the
Speaker 1: case at all. I don't think we asked himilar and
Speaker 1: and and I like taking roles where I'm not similar
Speaker 1: to the person. I like that. I enjoy doing that.
Speaker 1: And there are definitely elements of myself. I'm fiercely loyal,
Speaker 1: and I'm very willing to do things for other people
Speaker 1: and put maybe them first, sometimes sometimes to my own detriment.
Speaker 1: But that that, and also that that loyalty in and
Speaker 1: of itself can be kind of selfish sometimes. And I
Speaker 1: know Jas has a selfishness with him, and and that's
Speaker 1: tricky too. So I don't know. I I think we're
Speaker 1: very dissimilar people in lots of ways. But I think
Speaker 1: when you're playing it, when you're playing one of the
Speaker 1: good guys, you want to hope that deep down you're
Speaker 1: aligned some way because you're playing one of the good guys.
Speaker 1: You're playing someone with a good heart who's doing the
Speaker 1: right thing for the right reasons. So I would hope
Speaker 1: that at least that sort of key level of morality
Speaker 1: is similar between him and I. But other than that,
Speaker 1: we just we look pretty similar and all the moment.
Speaker 1: I have a beard now, but previously we previously on
Speaker 1: Tom Showoo's Life, I used to look a lot like Jason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's interesting because I I saw
Speaker 1: some similarities between myself and Clary when I started and throughout,
Speaker 1: but looking back, I think, you know, we were a
Speaker 1: lot more similar than I realized, which I wasn't used to.
Speaker 1: I never really played a character that was like me
Speaker 1: in any way, which provided its own set of vulnerabilities
Speaker 1: and challenges along the way, because you have to really
Speaker 1: go to parts of your psyche and your heart that
Speaker 1: are very close the bone and very close to home,
Speaker 1: and that can be an experience, for lack of a
Speaker 1: better word. But it's nice looking back because I definitely
Speaker 1: grew with Clary. You know, these two care these Clary
Speaker 1: and myself, they were these young women thrown into worlds
Speaker 1: that they knew nothing about and that they didn't have
Speaker 1: any experience in and had to find a way to
Speaker 1: navigate and create a family and grow and become something
Speaker 1: that they never thought they could be. And that I
Speaker 1: was very grateful for that because I, you know, as
Speaker 1: you said, we grew up on this show, and we
Speaker 1: grew up with these people, and and I I was
Speaker 1: figuring out who I was as an adult and an
Speaker 1: artist in a person. Well, Clary was figuring out who
Speaker 1: she was as a shadow wonder and uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: interesting looking back on that, and I'm it's one reason
Speaker 1: why this is always going to be so special to me.
Speaker 1: Good answer, Um, Danielle or Daniel one six one four brown?
Speaker 1: Probably Daniel. I want to say Daniel, but this could
Speaker 1: be Danielle. I don't know. It's it's spelled so many
Speaker 1: from ah Man. I don't know Dan, Danielle or Daniel
Speaker 1: won six one brown? Who is your favorite guest star? Wow?
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, that's a tricky question. Honestly, that's like asking
Speaker 1: us which of our siblings we like the most cats
Speaker 1: and only child. So that's a fairly easy question for her,
Speaker 1: but for me, that would be though you're an only child, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: for lack of a a better word, my my mom tends
Speaker 1: to adopt friends of mine from time to time, so
Speaker 1: I had a few adopted siblings at this point. But yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. There you go, um favorite guest star man.
Speaker 1: There were so many because you what you don't understand,
Speaker 1: I think is some of our guest stars became such
Speaker 1: regular parts of the cast that you would assume that
Speaker 1: they were series regulars. Jay's is one, Nicola is another.
Speaker 1: We saw them so often that you would assume that
Speaker 1: maybe they were part of the standard cast, but they aren't.
Speaker 1: I think if we because yeah, I mean, mine would
Speaker 1: be Nicola. If we were going on paper of like
Speaker 1: guest star guest star, it would be Nicolas. Nicholas one
Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world. However, I think
Speaker 1: if we were going to go on like people who
Speaker 1: sort of came in for like an episode, Adam Harrington
Speaker 1: was amazing. I had a lot of fun with Adam Harrington. Also,
Speaker 1: Mimi's amazing. And then Adam Kenneth Wilson, who played Ragna,
Speaker 1: came in and and first of all did one of
Speaker 1: the best British accents I've ever heard in my entire life,
Speaker 1: like like to the point where I was asking him
Speaker 1: whereabouts in England is from and he was like, oh, no, Darling,
Speaker 1: I'm actually from here. I'm from here. I just this
Speaker 1: Ragna has has a British accent. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. That's better than my British accent. And I'm British.
Speaker 1: So if we're talking about guest stars who were just
Speaker 1: in for like a day, those two guys are probably
Speaker 1: up them. By this, we can't forget Harvier Munus as
Speaker 1: well harveyer as a good one. Yeah it's a really
Speaker 1: good one. Or again yeah, Tesa, I don't think one
Speaker 1: of our day players, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: she wasn't a one episode like she had an arc,
Speaker 1: she had a whole but she You're right, Tessa was
Speaker 1: technically a guest star. Tessa has come like and Jade
Speaker 1: as well as another one like jadeas soon who is
Speaker 1: technically a guest star. But we don't we don't see
Speaker 1: those people as guest after David Castro. David Castro is
Speaker 1: another one, like they weren't guest stars. They would they
Speaker 1: were a part of this with us you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a really tricky question to want
Speaker 1: to it is. I mean, and you know, technically Will
Speaker 1: Tutor was a guest star, Luke Bains, you know, all
Speaker 1: of these people who came in and became such huge
Speaker 1: parts of the family and huge parts of our lives.
Speaker 1: I will say, if if you know, I had to
Speaker 1: shadow you know, shadow Hunter's weapon to my throat, I
Speaker 1: would have to say Nicola and Maris just because of
Speaker 1: the ark that Maris had. It was such a dissimilar
Speaker 1: arc arc from the book and such a dissimilar story.
Speaker 1: But so because of the impact that Malik had, they
Speaker 1: almost were able to exponentially grow that impact and grow
Speaker 1: the sort of emotional impact that the show had, and
Speaker 1: the and the growth for the shadow fan that it provided,
Speaker 1: and and the safe space and the comfort and the
Speaker 1: you know help. I guess is for lack of a
Speaker 1: better word, that that the show was able to give
Speaker 1: people and the rest of it by telling not only
Speaker 1: a story of this relationship, but a story of a
Speaker 1: family and a mother and son and parents navigating this
Speaker 1: relationship and and siblings and families and you know, institutions
Speaker 1: as well. And it it became such a special, beloved
Speaker 1: aspect of the show, and you know, taking a character
Speaker 1: that would have just remained a villain as it were,
Speaker 1: and humanizing her and giving her a new life and
Speaker 1: a love story and everything else as the end the
Speaker 1: show came to an end. It's really it became so
Speaker 1: nuanced and complex, and I think a lot of that
Speaker 1: too has to do with Nicola and just the capacity
Speaker 1: she has as an actress as well. I would I
Speaker 1: would agree. It's it's one of those impossible questions because
Speaker 1: you're asked us, as I said, it's like which of
Speaker 1: our siblings we like the most? Like there's no there's
Speaker 1: no real answer to that question. And then also so
Speaker 1: many of these people in our heads were not guest stars. Um, yeah, tricky.
Speaker 1: So I hope we vaguely answered that question. For sake
Speaker 1: of time. Shall we jump to the next section. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. So here are some what ifs, which I
Speaker 1: think this might be the section I'm looking forward to most.
Speaker 1: There's a few what if questions because why not dream
Speaker 1: about the future. So I think we've actually been asked
Speaker 1: this question before. What would because we've talked so much
Speaker 1: about weddings. If klace were to have gotten married one day,
Speaker 1: what would that wedding have looked like? And what what
Speaker 1: would that have been? Such an interesting question, like j
Speaker 1: Saint so good with the romance we know now he,
Speaker 1: I think they both would have just turned it over
Speaker 1: to Magnus and said, I think Magnus would have done
Speaker 1: a lot of helping planet and do everything and tell
Speaker 1: us what to do. I honestly think, especially based on
Speaker 1: how their relationship came to a close in the story,
Speaker 1: I think Simon would have done a lot of helping
Speaker 1: because Simon new has known Clary since they were kids, right,
Speaker 1: like I think he, I think Jas would have asked him.
Speaker 1: I think you would have asked him for help. Um
Speaker 1: And while and this is a cool idea, while Alec
Speaker 1: may have been Jason's Sunjin, is not right Sunjin, I
Speaker 1: think surgeon sun gink. I'm pretty sure that me that's
Speaker 1: like shadow on to best man, maybe Alberto, maybe he's
Speaker 1: Simon would have been Jason's best man, the mundane version
Speaker 1: of that, and they would have been able to have
Speaker 1: sort of an amalgam those of those. I think it's right,
Speaker 1: because you know, Simon came so full circle with Jace
Speaker 1: and Hare's known Clary so well, so he really is
Speaker 1: the bridge between that couple. Yeah. Um, As far as
Speaker 1: what it would look like, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would be. I don't think it would be
Speaker 1: as flashy as Magnus Alec. I think, honestly, I think
Speaker 1: what both of them and we used to joke about
Speaker 1: this all the time, like if you could cross over
Speaker 1: a show, which one would it be? And it would
Speaker 1: be like some fucking travel show. We just get to
Speaker 1: go and sit on a beach for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like that kind of sounds like the perfect wedding for me.
Speaker 1: Where you're for them, like where you're away from from everything,
Speaker 1: from all of the torturous version of life that they've
Speaker 1: had growing up, especially Jay's um and get to fully
Speaker 1: escape into into a world with just the people they
Speaker 1: care about, just a very small grouping of people. Um.
Speaker 1: There are sort of in a circle of people, and
Speaker 1: they get to celebrate how much they care about each
Speaker 1: other with the people that they want to celebrate that with,
Speaker 1: UM in a place that maybe nobody's been before, maybe
Speaker 1: and maybe it's a place that not only nobody's been married,
Speaker 1: nobody's ever even visited. And I think that's something that
Speaker 1: would be very special to to Jay's at least. I
Speaker 1: think it would be interesting to you know, find a
Speaker 1: part of the Silly realm that is tropical, or to
Speaker 1: you know, go to the beaches of somewhere, some forests,
Speaker 1: not in an institute, not in a it would have
Speaker 1: been I think, out somewhere that that maybe meant something
Speaker 1: to them throughout the years. But very interesting thoughts. Looks
Speaker 1: the next word I've done, Let's see, let's see, let's
Speaker 1: see from Shadow Cat Clary. Place, that's a solid name,
Speaker 1: good job. Would have loved to see an episode of
Speaker 1: just Place. If there was, what would they be doing?
Speaker 1: They would be fighting, they with each other. They would
Speaker 1: be arguing about something. Clary would have said, I've got
Speaker 1: to go do this thing, and Jace would have said, no,
Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't. She would have done it anyway, and
Speaker 1: then James would have come and saved her life, and
Speaker 1: then she would have basically figured out something at the
Speaker 1: end that saved them both just miraculously that Jason, because
Speaker 1: he's a bad shot. Answer. That's the episode. That's that.
Speaker 1: If we're going based on like story writing historically, like
Speaker 1: the ability of these people to do the things that
Speaker 1: they've done in continuum. That's what the episode would have been.
Speaker 1: I think it would also be interesting to have an
Speaker 1: episode of them like at Ikea trying to furnish their
Speaker 1: apartment or you know, fighting demons while also having an
Speaker 1: argument and just dealing with a couple of stuff while
Speaker 1: they're slashing. That would have been really fun. Like the
Speaker 1: concept of that would have been would have been really fun,
Speaker 1: like mid argument, mid fight instead of seeing this or
Speaker 1: like whilst seeing this synergy between like you and myself
Speaker 1: or between is he analec or me? And me and
Speaker 1: aalec or you? And is he seeing that synergy whilst
Speaker 1: also having a confrontation between the two would have been
Speaker 1: an interesting like dynamic to play with. Who knows even
Speaker 1: if we are even if we're fighting, Like maybe in
Speaker 1: ten years when they do a reunion series and I'm
Speaker 1: playing fourty year old Jays, then then we can throw
Speaker 1: that one in there. I mean, let's do it all, right,
Speaker 1: So let's jump into rooms. So lacy l seven says,
Speaker 1: what is each of your favorite room? Jason Clary use
Speaker 1: or favorite in general? Here's my thing about the runs,
Speaker 1: right is there were like three that I used continuously
Speaker 1: throughout the show. The Irati was the main one because
Speaker 1: I was continuously getting hurt or beaten up or murdered,
Speaker 1: So that was like the big one for me. The
Speaker 1: rest of them, even when we were doing the show,
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what they were. No, no real clue.
Speaker 1: Like you guys tell us all the time. We're you know,
Speaker 1: we're at fan events wherever, and you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this rumor on your shoulder, and now I have it
Speaker 1: and put it on my shoulder and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but okay, cool, it's good to
Speaker 1: know that that's the case. There were so many. There
Speaker 1: were so many, and then with the introduction in season
Speaker 1: two of Clary being would have just make shut up.
Speaker 1: There were so many, and then we were adding new
Speaker 1: ones to them all the time, and then these situations
Speaker 1: would happen like is it end of season two or
Speaker 1: mid season three break? I can't remember where is he
Speaker 1: just has one wish, her eyes go like technical and
Speaker 1: she can like see all of the stuff in the building.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that would have been so useful
Speaker 1: like forty different times in this show, and we just
Speaker 1: could haven't used it yet. But right now it's a
Speaker 1: useful thing, So I didn't I never knew what they were,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to go with a Razi. Also,
Speaker 1: we have toyed with this as an idea. If the
Speaker 1: Razi Room would be able to get rid of a
Speaker 1: hangover in real life, that's gonna be my favorite. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think one of my favorite rooms from when I
Speaker 1: read the books and then in the series. We didn't
Speaker 1: get to use it a lot in the series, which
Speaker 1: I wish we had. That would have been something if
Speaker 1: we'd done the War with the Darkened and we've done
Speaker 1: all of the book six stuff in full, we would
Speaker 1: have seen a lot more of was that. I believe
Speaker 1: it's called the Unite Room. That's and it's one of
Speaker 1: the last ones that Clary creates. Allows a shadow Hunter
Speaker 1: to be paired with the down worlder and their their
Speaker 1: gifts to be sort of crossed over and combined and there,
Speaker 1: you know, it's what allows us to go to eat
Speaker 1: them and what allows us to do all these other things.
Speaker 1: And not only did it provide a lot of fun
Speaker 1: for us, you know, me getting vamp speed for a
Speaker 1: few minutes and you getting the sea life thing for
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you know, all of these elements,
Speaker 1: but it also just it goes back to what Shadow
Speaker 1: Hunters is all about and just allowing two people who
Speaker 1: are working for the same cause from completely different backgrounds,
Speaker 1: completely different creatures, are able to combine their gifts in
Speaker 1: the most literal way and use them for the common
Speaker 1: good and use them to fight against what is trying
Speaker 1: to destroy everything. And I think that's such a beautiful
Speaker 1: metaphor and it's you know again, I wish we could
Speaker 1: have explored it more in the series. Yeah, there's definitely
Speaker 1: a cool subsection of of like story plotlines that we
Speaker 1: got to go through with that because that was that
Speaker 1: was good fund and those are good fun days. So
Speaker 1: let's move on to legacy. One of our favorite things
Speaker 1: is seeing how the show affects you, guys, even after
Speaker 1: the years it's ended. And honestly, it's so true to
Speaker 1: see the the way that this show has lived with
Speaker 1: so many people for such a long time and still
Speaker 1: to this day because we're still doing this is really
Speaker 1: quite uncommon and quite cool for us to experience because
Speaker 1: most shows, and you as viewers will know this most
Speaker 1: shows once they're gone. That's kind of it. It's just
Speaker 1: gone and everyone moves on to another thing, and that's
Speaker 1: not really the case with this. So this has been
Speaker 1: This has been lovely. So let's see how some of
Speaker 1: your fan questions lead to the effects it's had on us.
Speaker 1: Aliva underscore Maja or Maha with three eyes in the
Speaker 1: pre vat do you ever want to get a Shadow
Speaker 1: Hunters related tattoo? By the way I love you guys
Speaker 1: by the way we love you right back both have
Speaker 1: Shadow Answers related tattoos. It's true. Well, it was mostly
Speaker 1: alcohol's idea. If I'm on its alcohol and then and
Speaker 1: then the I don't know if I blame the taxi driver,
Speaker 1: but the fact that that I got out of the
Speaker 1: car next to a tattoo parlor, it all seemed very
Speaker 1: serendipitous to me, and that is that that's basically what
Speaker 1: it happened. We Alberta and I have been to a
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift concert and we've gotten quite drunk, and then
Speaker 1: we had to go to the rat party of season
Speaker 1: one and got out of the car and Alberta got
Speaker 1: out on the right and the rat party was on
Speaker 1: the right, and I got out on the left, and
Speaker 1: there was a tattoo parlor on the left, and I went, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting one. So before I went into the rat party,
Speaker 1: I went and got the Angelic Room tattooed on my leg,
Speaker 1: and then I went into the rat party and the
Speaker 1: first person I stow was Alan, who took one look
Speaker 1: at me and went, why have you got? You put
Speaker 1: plastic wrap like cling film around your around your tattoo
Speaker 1: to keep it clean right after you've had it. And
Speaker 1: Alan was going in there, what have you done with
Speaker 1: your leg? And I went, I just went and got
Speaker 1: a tattoo, and he went, I'm getting on. And then
Speaker 1: subsequently I think I think like eight or nine of
Speaker 1: us got it that night, and then over the course
Speaker 1: of the show we had hair and makeup getting them
Speaker 1: and all sorts of different people. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember this, dumb because of said extenuating circumstances, but
Speaker 1: you called me while you were on the table getting
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, did I. I answered the phone
Speaker 1: and you didn't even say hello. You just said bring
Speaker 1: everyone across the street. And I was like, what where
Speaker 1: are you? What's going on? He was like, bring everyone
Speaker 1: across the street right now. I got the gang and
Speaker 1: I was like, all right doms across the street, and
Speaker 1: we walk in and you were on the table getting tattooed,
Speaker 1: and we all sort of went, well, all right, we're
Speaker 1: doing this now, this is the whole thing. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was more my fault than I remember. I I what
Speaker 1: I do remember is the tattoo artists being very confused
Speaker 1: about tattooing a whole whole plethora of different people from
Speaker 1: different backgrounds and whatever with the exact same image. And
Speaker 1: he I think he was stoned. I think he was
Speaker 1: stone because we went. When we got in, he was
Speaker 1: in a very large lounger and he was watching cartoons.
Speaker 1: There's anything wrong with that. I love cartoons. But he
Speaker 1: was already and I remember him sort of looking over
Speaker 1: like hey man, and I was like, hey, I want
Speaker 1: to get this image tattoo and he goes, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: And then we came in with the next person and
Speaker 1: he went hey man, and I went, hey man, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember me, and he sort of
Speaker 1: went like not really, and I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: can we get this image tattooed? And then it just
Speaker 1: kept going and I think he got more and more confused.
Speaker 1: Blessed socks, but you probably thought it was some sort
Speaker 1: of cult or something, which yeah, but um. I then
Speaker 1: proceeded to get a tattoo for every season that sort
Speaker 1: of stacked on top of the first one of a
Speaker 1: different room that whatever it was that exemplified the season
Speaker 1: or whatever place in life I was in, And it
Speaker 1: became a really nice memento of of the show because
Speaker 1: it forced me to think about what was this season
Speaker 1: for Clary and what was this year for me? And
Speaker 1: what you know, what room can I pick that represents
Speaker 1: that the most? And yeah, no, no regrets as one
Speaker 1: of um what's next? So the next question is from
Speaker 1: Planet Trish, what did playing Jason Clary teach you for
Speaker 1: your career and other roles? I think I learned more.
Speaker 1: This was sort of one of my first times being
Speaker 1: a co lead of a show. You know, Clary Cat
Speaker 1: was obviously the lead of our show, but the sort
Speaker 1: of the male love interest lead version of that. Um,
Speaker 1: this was one of my first times experiencing that. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot that comes with it that you don't
Speaker 1: really realize perhaps as audience members. The number one thing
Speaker 1: is that attitude trickles downwards always, So if you turn
Speaker 1: up with a good attitude, that's going to be reflected
Speaker 1: with how people enjoy the day, how they start enjoying
Speaker 1: their work, how it is for guest stars to come in,
Speaker 1: the sort of relationships you build on set, and how
Speaker 1: easy the days end up being. Cat always did a
Speaker 1: very good job with this. I mean, how tired we were.
Speaker 1: She was always upbeat, she always had a smile, and
Speaker 1: she was always ready to go. And that's something that
Speaker 1: I have taken with me career wise. That's something that
Speaker 1: I would always do really, no matter what what stage
Speaker 1: of the sort of the acting hierarchy you're in on
Speaker 1: a set, not only can you make your day a
Speaker 1: better day by taking the good parts of it and
Speaker 1: holding on and letting go of the bad parts of it,
Speaker 1: but you can make everyone else's day around you better
Speaker 1: by doing exactly that. And I don't think this is
Speaker 1: just an acting thing. I think this is a pretty
Speaker 1: unilateral career thing. You can make everyone's day around you better,
Speaker 1: and then that gets reflected backwards because the person who's
Speaker 1: day you just made a little better by being a
Speaker 1: little nice or even though you didn't want to because
Speaker 1: you were tired or sleepy or hungry or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: then that person later on the day might be tired
Speaker 1: or sleep you're hungry, but give you a smile back
Speaker 1: when they didn't want to because they were tired, and
Speaker 1: sleep you're hungry. And then it just becomes this sort
Speaker 1: of circular thing where everyone picks each other up as
Speaker 1: and when they sort of need to. So that's something
Speaker 1: that's stuck with me career wise, from playing these characterism
Speaker 1: from being on this this set. Yeah, and I feel
Speaker 1: much the same, you know. It's we were so lucky
Speaker 1: to have a set where ego was virtually non existent.
Speaker 1: You know, in any department, people were there to do
Speaker 1: the job, to take care of each other and to
Speaker 1: tell the story and to make each other better. And
Speaker 1: that when you're doing a show that's nights and fighting
Speaker 1: and tears and blood and all of these other things,
Speaker 1: it's hard work. It's the best job in the world,
Speaker 1: but it's hard work, and you have to support each
Speaker 1: other and you have to be there to carry each
Speaker 1: other through because inevitably everybody's going to have one bad
Speaker 1: day at least when you're you're in the middle of this,
Speaker 1: and you know, as as you often know and as
Speaker 1: became maybe too much at times, I will always find
Speaker 1: a silver lighting. I will always look for the bright side.
Speaker 1: I will always even if it's silly and I have
Speaker 1: to make it up, I will find some reason to
Speaker 1: try and make someone smile. And that's always been inherently
Speaker 1: a part of who I am, but it becomes so
Speaker 1: much more important on a set like that. But also
Speaker 1: I had never been a lead of a show in
Speaker 1: that scenario either, and so I was so happy to
Speaker 1: have people like Isaiah and Harry who had been around
Speaker 1: the block so many times, who'd been through this. Harry
Speaker 1: had just been through Glee, Isaiah has been in this
Speaker 1: industry forever. And getting to watch them and the way
Speaker 1: that they interacted with the crew, you know, having Isaiah
Speaker 1: come on set every day and say hello to every
Speaker 1: single person and say goodbye to every single person before
Speaker 1: he leaves, no matter how long his day was. I
Speaker 1: saw how much that meant to everyone on set. And
Speaker 1: to have Harry come in and be such a total
Speaker 1: pro and know his stuff and come in with ideas
Speaker 1: that are so characterful and so interesting, you know, it
Speaker 1: became such an element that all of that taught me
Speaker 1: so much, and the camaraderie that we were able to
Speaker 1: build that that carried everything through and trickled to the
Speaker 1: entire crew. It made the show what it was and
Speaker 1: you saw it on screen. You saw the byproduct of
Speaker 1: that symbiosis on screen, and you know, again, that's what
Speaker 1: I strive to carry through to any job I'm on,
Speaker 1: in any aspect of my life. Yeah, smart, we got
Speaker 1: two last questions. Let's do it. Here are some questions
Speaker 1: about rewatching Shadow Wants and this podcast. Honestly, it has
Speaker 1: been a huge amount of fun to be able to
Speaker 1: dive into this, and especially we we did a little
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of how this works. Today we sort
Speaker 1: of run out of time. I couldn't film yesterday and
Speaker 1: we're supposed to film yesterday, and then today we ran
Speaker 1: out of time a little bit. So we decided to
Speaker 1: do one. We're supposed to record too, and we're going
Speaker 1: to do one, and we have the discussion of which
Speaker 1: one do we want to do, and we said, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 1: we're going to do the mail bag. We have to
Speaker 1: do the mail bag because we want to get these
Speaker 1: questions in and now we love having this interaction with
Speaker 1: you guys, as do our co producers on the show,
Speaker 1: who works so hard to bring this stuff to you.
Speaker 1: They honestly do an absolutely amazing job. So this has
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun and thank you for your
Speaker 1: amazing questions. That's uh, let's jump into some Sammy a
Speaker 1: hern a h n g um. I'm not even going
Speaker 1: to give it another go. That's that's the best starts
Speaker 1: day and I apologize, Sammy. When is the best time
Speaker 1: to rewatch Shadow Hunters? Lots of loved from the Philippines
Speaker 1: and lots of blood right back to the Philippines. The
Speaker 1: best time? That's an interesting one. Honestly. What I did
Speaker 1: find is time of day wise is nighttime, like when
Speaker 1: it's dark because the show, I mean, it's a supernatural
Speaker 1: show about demons and vampires. Like there's so much like
Speaker 1: physical darkness, like lack of light on screen that I
Speaker 1: remember trying and watch them in the daytime a couple
Speaker 1: of times when I was in Toronto, and do you
Speaker 1: remember my apartment Toronto, it was like floor to ceiling
Speaker 1: windows everywhere and black out the place at all, and
Speaker 1: it actually became quite hard to watch some of it,
Speaker 1: like you miss bits. So I would say the best
Speaker 1: time to watch it is get it dark, you know,
Speaker 1: lights out, watch it at home when it's nighttime. And
Speaker 1: that would be the best time. I agree, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's it sets the mood, It's sets
Speaker 1: the tone. Pop yourself from popcorn and you know, make
Speaker 1: a magnus worthy cocktail or mocktail and have a ball. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then for our final question from Mila sixty six tier,
Speaker 1: what's the most fun part of doing these podcasts? I
Speaker 1: am all of it now, I think for me, aside
Speaker 1: from these mail bag episodes that are so fun. To
Speaker 1: have this interaction and to continue to answer all of
Speaker 1: the questions that we haven't gotten a chance to and
Speaker 1: reliving the episodes we have given our story so many
Speaker 1: times at different Comma cons and press interviews and doing
Speaker 1: all this, we shared our experience, We've told our story,
Speaker 1: we have all our funny moments. There's still more to tell,
Speaker 1: which is why we're here. But getting to bring on
Speaker 1: people that meant so much to us, like Darren McGuire,
Speaker 1: like Glenn Warner, like Nicola and you know everyone else
Speaker 1: that hopefully we will have on the podcast one of
Speaker 1: these days. Getting to hear the experience and the story
Speaker 1: and getting to give an audience to that for the
Speaker 1: people that helped create the world and helped us tell
Speaker 1: the story and and often our aspects of filmmaking that
Speaker 1: don't get light shed on them, and you know, hopefully,
Speaker 1: my my hope is that you know, it helps to
Speaker 1: celebrate the Shadow world for what it is. But also
Speaker 1: if someone out there loves telling stories and and wants
Speaker 1: to be a part of this industry but doesn't know
Speaker 1: what a camera operator does, or a costume designer or
Speaker 1: a wardrobe assistant or a director of photography or whatever
Speaker 1: it may be, it sheds light on those careers as well,
Speaker 1: and and hopefully allows more people with a myriad of
Speaker 1: talents and an opportunity to to be a part of
Speaker 1: this story telling. Yeah, no kidding, it's honestly, really beautifully put,
Speaker 1: and I agree wholeheartedly. I think the best thing about
Speaker 1: this podcast, and the best thing that we've done, and
Speaker 1: the best thing that the producers have have done with us,
Speaker 1: is get on the lesser known talents from the show.
Speaker 1: Get on the people like Darren, like Glenn, like that,
Speaker 1: and again like others that we're going to get on
Speaker 1: who in all honesty worked harder than us. They worked
Speaker 1: so much harder than us. Every single one of them
Speaker 1: had a hand in making Jace, who he wasn't clearly
Speaker 1: who she was, and Magnus who he was, and Alec
Speaker 1: who he was, and Simon who he wasn't Isy who
Speaker 1: she wasn't on and so forth. Every single one of
Speaker 1: the people that we get on helped us develop those
Speaker 1: people and helped us develop these stories and helped us
Speaker 1: tell these stories. And I think one of the true
Speaker 1: shames to a lot of audience members around the world
Speaker 1: is that you never get to see that element of it,
Speaker 1: because one to us, it's very exciting. It's a very
Speaker 1: cool process to build something. You know, you don't buy
Speaker 1: a lego made, you know what I mean. You sit
Speaker 1: there and you make it and you put it together,
Speaker 1: and that's what we that's what we do with these people,
Speaker 1: sometimes literally, but I think to being able to share
Speaker 1: some of those experiences with people who cared so much
Speaker 1: about the show, being able to tell them that these
Speaker 1: are the people that that really made it happen, it's
Speaker 1: really fucking special. So that is that I agree with
Speaker 1: you can. I think that's probably my favorite thing we've
Speaker 1: done well. And I think that's a perfect place to
Speaker 1: wrap up this episode and to thank each and every
Speaker 1: one of you Angels for sending in questions and continuing
Speaker 1: to listen and continuing to share this experience with us.
Speaker 1: It's it's such a special thing, and you know, particularly
Speaker 1: around the holidays, you sort of look back at your
Speaker 1: year and go, what did I do this year? What
Speaker 1: did I accomplish? What was my favorite part? And having
Speaker 1: this podcast launch and be such a big part of
Speaker 1: our lives and a big part of the fandom, and
Speaker 1: the way that you've welcomed it is really wonderful. So
Speaker 1: thank you to our amazing producers and to you um
Speaker 1: to I Heeart for putting us out in the world,
Speaker 1: and to all of you the Shadow Film for joining
Speaker 1: us once again. Return to the Shadows is hosted an
Speaker 1: executive produced by me Dominic, Sherwood and Katherine McNamara. Our
Speaker 1: executive producer is Lingley. Our senior producers are Liz Hayes
Speaker 1: and Diego Tapia, and our producers are Hannah Harris and
Speaker 1: Kristin Vermilion. Our intern is Sam Cats. Original music by
Speaker 1: Alex Kinzy performed by Alex Kinzy and Katherine McNamara, and
Speaker 1: the episode was mixed by Seth A. Lanskaya. Make sure
Speaker 1: you subscribe to Return to the Shadows wherever you get
Speaker 1: your podcasts, and while you're there, feel free to drop
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