WEBVTT - BONUS: Season 2 Mailbag

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, shadow Fam, and happy New Year. We have an

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<v Speaker 1>extra special holiday gift for you today. Remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>answered some of your questions a while back, Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>are doing it again. We had so many amazing questions

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't fit them all in one episode. So here

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<v Speaker 1>we are welcome to this week's season two mail bag.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited to answer some questions and make an

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<v Speaker 1>episode fully for you, our beloved shadow Fam. Morning, dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? Or afternoon for you? I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>is afternoon for me. We'll figure out the time difference

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<v Speaker 1>one of these days. I'm doing good. I'm good. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good about to embark on some holiday travel and a

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<v Speaker 1>family time, which i'm very much. Do you want break?

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<v Speaker 1>You want break for the holidays? Or you finished? We're done?

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<v Speaker 1>You're done? Wow, we are done done. So a fun

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<v Speaker 1>period of do we get picked up? Wait? No, you

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<v Speaker 1>got picked up. You didn't get picked up. You got

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<v Speaker 1>picked up to do the whole season. Yeah, we just

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<v Speaker 1>did thirteen and then no back order and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>about season two. So I feel good about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I feel good about this one. You need more

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<v Speaker 1>Westerns in the world, you know what I mean? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>It would certainly be a lot of fun. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you up to these days? I am back home for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>back home, and I'm about to travel for um. A

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine is getting married in the Dominican Republic

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<v Speaker 1>and he's asked me to be in his grims party

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<v Speaker 1>and he's getting married over New Years. So Deca and

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<v Speaker 1>I are going to the Dominican in like a week

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. And I haven't just over a week,

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<v Speaker 1>like all its ten days, um, and I haven't planned anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I need to start planning some stuff. But there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. There's anything I know about you, dum. It's

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<v Speaker 1>last minute travel. It's kind of your specialty adventure no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what. Oh yeah, that's the plan. Um. Right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a whole bunch of questions from you guys, which,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, thank you so much for taking the

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<v Speaker 1>time to listen and engage with us and enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>show and then come up with these questions, because one

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<v Speaker 1>it's so lovely to hear from you, and two it

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<v Speaker 1>makes our drob a whole bunch of eesier that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to make them up. So that's great stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna preface this with like I am

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<v Speaker 1>gonna absolutely butcher some of these names. I've tried to

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<v Speaker 1>go through some of them, and some of them are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty simple, but some of them are like they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not not anagrams. What are they called? When it's

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<v Speaker 1>when it's like I R L, what's that? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>term for abbreviations? Abbreviations. There's like a bunch of abbreviations

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know because I'm fucking old now, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of these that I don't know. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I mess it up, like just try and be

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<v Speaker 1>gentle with me and don't laugh. And if I mess

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<v Speaker 1>up your name at some point, I apologize. With that

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<v Speaker 1>being said that precursor, let's dive in. Let's jump into

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<v Speaker 1>some questions. What do you say, Let's go for it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we have these sort of compartmentalized into different versions

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<v Speaker 1>of things, which isn't really necessarily very important for you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but it gives us some other things to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So this first section of questions is filming slash stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we did on screen. So first we want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into some questions about our time on set and

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite times on screen, our favorite on screen moments, Kat,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want me to ask you the first question?

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<v Speaker 1>Go for it down great, leanne leanne l y l.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what this is. Man, you think so okay? Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't see I'm starting off already. This is it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be one of those kind of shows. No, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the kids say these days. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't know the TikTok's and instead what I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know, although I did. Just this

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<v Speaker 1>is funny, and I'll publicly address this now. I was

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<v Speaker 1>drunk with my friends the other day and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be funny to follow some people again. So

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<v Speaker 1>I followed my best friend Harvey, who lives with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I followed Decca, and then I followed Darryl has a

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<v Speaker 1>fan group and we're not sure who runs it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I followed the fan group and not Darryl, and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>got a message from Daryl like, dude, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so annoyed. So everyone out there go and follow

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<v Speaker 1>this band group because it's awesome. Any who the question

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<v Speaker 1>from Lee Darryl or for for you no doubt? Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I follow it for sure, um. Alright, So

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<v Speaker 1>question number one, what what time did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>wake up on set? What time did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>wake up on set? Is an interesting one because Cat

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<v Speaker 1>likes to take naps on set. I'm assuming the question

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of based around what time do we have

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up to go to set? Um, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is fully dependent. We were on one of those kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shows where do you know what? I asked you

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<v Speaker 1>the question I don't know why I'm diving in and answering.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked you the question you go nuts. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, I I think I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>say just about the same thing you were. Most likely

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<v Speaker 1>is that, you know, it all depends on what we're

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<v Speaker 1>shooting and when, because a lot of times we would

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<v Speaker 1>end up shooting nights because you know, vampires, etcetera. It's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to hunt shadows in the dark. No, but we uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have to wake up. You know, we lived

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<v Speaker 1>probably about an hour from our studio, which most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time that's where we would be. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's all depended on hair and makeup time. So

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<v Speaker 1>my hair and makeup time I think was about an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a bit, which it's interesting on a show

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<v Speaker 1>like this because our time was usually pretty similar, which

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<v Speaker 1>isn't usually the case for you know, folks with extensively

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<v Speaker 1>long hair as I have, but it's because of the

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<v Speaker 1>ruins and your tattoos and all that stuff, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that doubled me up with time. So the big thing

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<v Speaker 1>for me was if I was shirtless or not, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm if I have my shirt on. And we used

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this with costume quite a lot. If

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<v Speaker 1>there was an opportunity to and it made sense for

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<v Speaker 1>the story, we would tend to be in long sleeves

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<v Speaker 1>with the sleeves rolled down that way. Nobody else has

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<v Speaker 1>to get up early, not just me, but like the

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<v Speaker 1>hair and makeup team who also have to come in

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<v Speaker 1>early to get the rooms ready to cover up my

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos on and so forth. Nobody has to come in

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<v Speaker 1>any earlier, and everyone gets an next hour of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And like Kat was mentioning, you know when we do

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<v Speaker 1>those night shoots Faturday's where everyone's least favorites, where you

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<v Speaker 1>start on a Friday afternoon and you don't finish till

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<v Speaker 1>not even the early hours, sometimes on a Saturday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes like middle of the morning Saturday morning, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>just worked through the night, nobody wants to come in

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<v Speaker 1>that next day an hour earlier. Nobody wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>it because everyone's tired. You need your rest. It's really important,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's important to be productive and to be a

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<v Speaker 1>decent part of the team. So we would work out

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<v Speaker 1>times where if it was if it was necessary, then

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<v Speaker 1>I would be shirtless, when my sleeves would be shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't necessary, it wouldn't. However, the shirtless scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to airbrush my tattoos off first, so they

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<v Speaker 1>cover them completely, which takes about give or take. Normally

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<v Speaker 1>there's two or three people doing it, so give or

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<v Speaker 1>take that takes about between twenty and fourteen minutes. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to apply the ruins on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>which takes another sort of between twenty and forty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>so about just over an hour give or take. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know is not an insignificant amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then sometimes if we were feeling extra ambitious or

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<v Speaker 1>just an insane person like myself, we would get up

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning and go train with our trainer first

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<v Speaker 1>before work or after work or you know that's true. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because fight scenes as well, like the fight scenes days

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<v Speaker 1>would come in early very often UM and run it

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<v Speaker 1>because most of the time we had run the fight

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<v Speaker 1>scene but in the studio space, so we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the set looks like yet, we don't know where.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've got a scene. I just rewatched with

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<v Speaker 1>a friend the fight scene with the first one in

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<v Speaker 1>the Vampire. Then we didn't know what that was going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like, like they sort of set it up

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<v Speaker 1>with boxes sort of vaguely like that, But I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know where the paddle was going to come from, where

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<v Speaker 1>where are going to come from, where the vampires are

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<v Speaker 1>coming from, where they're going to fall, where it's safe

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<v Speaker 1>for them to fall, where it's safe for me to fall.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know any of that. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to get up and get in UM and

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<v Speaker 1>see that space and even just like it's almost like meditating,

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<v Speaker 1>you just sit in the space and sort of pan

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<v Speaker 1>everything through in your head as best you can. This

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<v Speaker 1>goes here, this is when this happens, and whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when the changes do inevitably happen, which we've spoken

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<v Speaker 1>about on the podcast before, it's a little easier. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a really tricky question. To answer in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to what when we wake up, because there is no

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<v Speaker 1>answer to it. The standard answer is we get given

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<v Speaker 1>a time that we need to be in work, which

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<v Speaker 1>is on It's called the cool sheets, and the cool

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<v Speaker 1>sheet has all of the information we need for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going to be in, the phone numbers, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to call, the scenes that we're gonna be doing, blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, times, dates, whether all that sort of stuff, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and next to our names will say pick up at

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<v Speaker 1>this time, arrive on set at this time here, and

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<v Speaker 1>make up at this time on set this time. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those days where we decided we want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in earlier for whatever reason, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>approa some ahead of time and say, look, I loves

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<v Speaker 1>come in I would love to see this blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the standard answer is we wake up when we're

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<v Speaker 1>told to wake up. Yeah, it's very true, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we That's that's the beauty of being an actor on

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<v Speaker 1>a show like this is you really get told everything

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<v Speaker 1>where to do. There was I was actually on the

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<v Speaker 1>set of Arrow and I realized this kind of analogy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then one of our camera operators added the little

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<v Speaker 1>cherry on top. But we're basically kindergarteners, you know. We

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<v Speaker 1>get told we can have a little chair with our

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<v Speaker 1>name on it, we have a little cubby with our

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<v Speaker 1>name on it. Somebody sets our clothes and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>our hair looks nice, and then they we have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who walks us everywhere we go and tells everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>when we go to the bathroom and when we need

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<v Speaker 1>a snack. And people always ask that. I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to say snacks as a big one, when when you're grumpy,

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<v Speaker 1>someone's gonna bring you snacks and like a juice box

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, just do you calm down, you It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be okay. But then one of the camera upside

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<v Speaker 1>arrow turned to me one day and went, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're the parents that record you guys play together. Jeez.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's basically the crux of it. Very simple question,

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<v Speaker 1>very long winded answer. I am so sorry. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if they're talking to me like this. Well, here's our

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<v Speaker 1>next question from l Barrett too to six three. What

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<v Speaker 1>was your absolute favorite moment from each season to either

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<v Speaker 1>film or watch? Okay, from each season a season. Season

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<v Speaker 1>one isn't easy one for me because it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>scene to both film and because I because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do a huge amount in this scene, I get to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of witness it as it's happening for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost a bit like watching a play, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. And then so being a part of that,

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<v Speaker 1>being a part of the filming process was very cool. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it took us two days. I'm giving you clues, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to figure out which one this is, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>already know, and then then to watch it again. We

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<v Speaker 1>all watched it together live at the free Form offices

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles, and we got to see it as

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<v Speaker 1>the audience saw it, and so we knew what was

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<v Speaker 1>coming and with the build up and stuff. That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the Lydia Alec wedding that's gate crashed by

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<v Speaker 1>Magnus in the most fantastic way. And that kiss. Getting

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<v Speaker 1>to see that kiss for the first time because nobody

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<v Speaker 1>really knew. I'm not even sure if they knew exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what was going to happen. Um, and the and the

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<v Speaker 1>way Matt initiates it. I remember I remember seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking, holy sh he's going to punch him, like

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<v Speaker 1>and it's one of those things where like the director

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't told us, but this is he wants like a

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<v Speaker 1>genuine reaction from us. So this is what's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what it looks like. You grabbed him by

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<v Speaker 1>the pearls and there's a half a second there where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I really don't know what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen there. Um. And it's such a genuine, raw, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of almost like an epiphany, like an emotional physical epiphany,

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<v Speaker 1>which is it was a really cool thing to watch

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<v Speaker 1>and we've said it before, we say it again a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand times. The boys do such an amazing job in

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<v Speaker 1>that scene. Um. And that was my favorite in season

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<v Speaker 1>one two to watch and be a part of. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you took the words right out of my

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<v Speaker 1>mouth on that one. Um. So I have really nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to add other than you know, it's It was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a celebration of the season as well, because we

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<v Speaker 1>were in our second to last episode and we had

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<v Speaker 1>all been so separated for so long, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so nice to have everyone together in one room and

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<v Speaker 1>just be able to celebrate the story that we told

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. Spoiler that might be our answer for

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<v Speaker 1>season three. Maybe I will say I think I know

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<v Speaker 1>our answer for season two, because I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>the same answer for that as well. At the whole

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<v Speaker 1>sequence at lake Land, with Allan and the Sword and

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<v Speaker 1>the lake and the Angel and you and I and

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<v Speaker 1>this all those fights, it was such we were we

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<v Speaker 1>were exhausted, you know, and it was such an epic

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<v Speaker 1>thing and something that we've built up for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>and the hard work that every single department put in,

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<v Speaker 1>despite you know, weather adversities and how you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had to, as you said before, change things at the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute and dealing with drones and dealing with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>different elements that we had to bring together to make

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<v Speaker 1>this moment as as epic as the books built it

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<v Speaker 1>up to be and as epic as the fans deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I really think that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>so well done by the entire team. And we had

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<v Speaker 1>been crying for seventeen hours and fighting and in the

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<v Speaker 1>rain and everything else, and yet I think we all

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<v Speaker 1>left set that day knowing that we've done something special

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing that we'd accomplished that goal, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean I couldn't even stand up in the

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<v Speaker 1>shower at the end of the time for that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hard. I mean it was because it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even like that was the last scene of that whole

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<v Speaker 1>sequence that we filmed semi chronologically, so there was the

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<v Speaker 1>execution fight and then there was there and this was

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<v Speaker 1>also correct me if I'm wrong, but that was all

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<v Speaker 1>done in the same area, right Like, we pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>went from like dusk with the execution straight to the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of Lake Lynn and did those scenes one after

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<v Speaker 1>the other. So it was it was definitely a hard

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<v Speaker 1>work day. There is there's a certain amount of adrenaline

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<v Speaker 1>that you get, especially from I mean, just doing what

0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.760
<v Speaker 1>you love anyway gives you a decent amount of adrenaline,

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<v Speaker 1>but then being on locations, there's something really special about

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<v Speaker 1>that because you're seeing the thing live. They're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to add very much to it. Obviously the angel was

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<v Speaker 1>added later spoiler, but we didn't have one of those

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<v Speaker 1>in life. But actually being able to look out across

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<v Speaker 1>the lake that we've seen in writing and we'd rehearsed

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<v Speaker 1>and we've done all this stuff and then that actually

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<v Speaker 1>be there and see it, it's a really cool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you do get this level of adrenaline which sort

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<v Speaker 1>of helps you through to a certain extent. But then

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<v Speaker 1>when sort of twelve o'clock and then it's one in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and then it's two in the morning, and

0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that adrenaline starts to dip a little, and you're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of on cigarettes and coca cola and that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's really keeping you through. It's like sugar and

0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't smoke, but that's what I was doing, And

0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I was smoking cigarettes and like drinking soda every two

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<v Speaker 1>seconds just to keep like little sugar butters going through

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<v Speaker 1>my body. But like Cat says, you know, you when

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<v Speaker 1>there's something really fantastic about leaving those days and going

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<v Speaker 1>m m, that's that's that was everything that it should

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<v Speaker 1>have been. It was if we nailed that scene, absolutely nail.

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<v Speaker 1>That says nothing I would go back and change, which

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<v Speaker 1>especially is I think any version of artists always look

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<v Speaker 1>back at their work and hate just a tiny bit

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Always. You always look back and there's always

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<v Speaker 1>a part of you that's like, oh, man, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have done that, or I wouldn't have done that. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>part of the beauty of it, that sort of self

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<v Speaker 1>sacrificial nature pushes you to strive to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>better every time, which is a good thing. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>positive thing if you use it in the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't feel that way about that scene, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't feel that way about that scene,

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<v Speaker 1>which is rare and and quite lovely. Indeed, what about

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<v Speaker 1>season three down see I alluded to it earlier and

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<v Speaker 1>now I can't think of anything else for two reasons. One,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly as you mentioned before, it's an amalgam of how

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<v Speaker 1>the story came together, what it represents, how it how

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<v Speaker 1>it brings people from different facets of life together, and

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<v Speaker 1>how they can be happy no matter what their challenges are,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what their backgrounds are. Would ever, so, the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding scene, the actual wedding scene at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>season three, I think encapsulates a lot of what we

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to tell in our story. And then on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, and we have mentioned this before briefly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was one of those very few scenes where

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was there. Everyone people from season one. You know,

0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.840
<v Speaker 1>we spoke about it when we had Glenn on. Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>was with us. Glenn camera operator, was with us from

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<v Speaker 1>season one, from from day day one. He was with

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<v Speaker 1>us and was with us on that last day and

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<v Speaker 1>for those who don't know, we've definitely mentioned this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had the rap party immediately after filming that scene,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately after filming it on the sets that we all

0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.920
<v Speaker 1>we all it worked on, we all lived on for

0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.960
<v Speaker 1>four and a half years. They had champagne waiting for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where we had our rap party. So so

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<v Speaker 1>filming that whole collection, the wedding and then the after

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<v Speaker 1>party and then the our after party as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was there, which was really lovely, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a pretty special experience around because

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<v Speaker 1>again that's not that's very uncommon in so many ways

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<v Speaker 1>to have your last dayby with all of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that you've worked with. Never happened to have its. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>almost always your last day is like on your own

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like right at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like kind of you're just like, yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. Everyone's time screen shooting somewhere like

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<v Speaker 1>totally yeah, we just need to smile into like this

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<v Speaker 1>camera at one point and that's it. And then to

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<v Speaker 1>have to be on a set obviously has on that

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<v Speaker 1>set that you know, the key set, is fairly uncommon.

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<v Speaker 1>And then to have your rap party one the day

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<v Speaker 1>of never happens, and to to have it on a

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<v Speaker 1>set that we grew up in, literally grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>like four years of my life was was on that

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<v Speaker 1>set all day, every day is unheard of. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was really cool. That was really really special.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel the exact same way. You know, even

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<v Speaker 1>having Isaiah come back, who was off doing something else

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<v Speaker 1>and has only been there for a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think even Alan showed up, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone came and even folks who weren't working that day

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<v Speaker 1>just keep to be there. And you know, something we

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk a ton about because we get so caught

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<v Speaker 1>up and everything is todd You know, our showrunner Ted

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<v Speaker 1>Lapkin came up to direct that episode and he hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>directed the show before and was so brilliant in creating

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<v Speaker 1>such a sacred space for that scene and creating such

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful every single detail of the wedding, from the

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<v Speaker 1>flowers to the way everything was arranged, to you know,

0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.360
<v Speaker 1>having Nicola walk walk Harry down the aisle, to all

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<v Speaker 1>of these little elements just brought all of us to

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<v Speaker 1>tears so many times because it was the connective tissue

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<v Speaker 1>of everything we'd set up and everything we'd worked for,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that we had put our heart and souls

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<v Speaker 1>into for so many years, you know, down to there

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<v Speaker 1>were certain pieces of the dialogue that I in my

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<v Speaker 1>final scene with Alberto, my final scene with Nicola, my

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<v Speaker 1>final scene with you, I could barely even say the

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<v Speaker 1>lines without bursting into tears because they were so poignant

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<v Speaker 1>to everything that not only we had felt as characters,

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<v Speaker 1>but everything that we felt as people over that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that we've been through together, and this family

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<v Speaker 1>that we've made and this team effort that we've built,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was such a celebration but also

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<v Speaker 1>a lovely send off and a lovely farewell to this story. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. Wow, we're not getting to these very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Ship that question too, Yeah, okay, well there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Jelleka dot Art has asked a scene you weren't happy with,

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<v Speaker 1>but upon watching thought you did a good job. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So this actually happens a lot, I find. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to a director of friend of mine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to a director of friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and it's sort of illuminated some some other

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<v Speaker 1>a new perspective for me. You know, when when you

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<v Speaker 1>are shooting at such a fast pace and you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>so much. As you said, artists often are at least

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<v Speaker 1>people who really care about what they're doing, are often

0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 1>very critical of themselves and often find because we're always

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<v Speaker 1>striving to be better and always striving to improve, and

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<v Speaker 1>so often when you get on set and there on

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<v Speaker 1>the day, it turns out differently than you would have expected,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's some element that it doesn't necessarily go the

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<v Speaker 1>way you thought of in your head, and at times

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<v Speaker 1>that can be a bit disappointing or frustrating, or or

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<v Speaker 1>you just go, oh, man, I wish I could have

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<v Speaker 1>or I wish I had done this retrospectively. But a

0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 1>director friend of mine I was talking to about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said to me, it's never the take that

0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the actor likes that's the best take. It's the take

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<v Speaker 1>that they are unsure of because they because they're unsure,

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<v Speaker 1>it means they weren't self evaluating while they were in

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<v Speaker 1>the scene. They were just actually in the moment and

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<v Speaker 1>actually living the moment and lost themselves in the story.

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<v Speaker 1>So they didn't have a sort of accurate representation of

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<v Speaker 1>how the take went. In quotes as it were, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>which that was interesting, But I don't know, how do

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:13.360
<v Speaker 1>you feel that makes total sense? I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>million different actors in a million different ways that actors

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<v Speaker 1>work because everyone does it a slightly different way. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I think the only there are definitely times where

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had done something differently, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>upon watching more than it is like on the day.

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<v Speaker 1>On the day, I really do try and lose myself

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I can, to the point where like

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<v Speaker 1>there are times where I don't really remember doing things,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when I know that it was good because

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<v Speaker 1>exactly just saying like that, whatever I was saying in

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>those moments was my emotions behind it were connected to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that other person, whatever that thing, that object, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was, and and trying to sort of use your

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<v Speaker 1>imagination to to put that into reality for yous um

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<v Speaker 1>that That's what I've always tried to do to to

0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:05.120
<v Speaker 1>project these characters emotions. But I think definitely sometimes where

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<v Speaker 1>I've been disappointed is where we ran out of time,

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<v Speaker 1>where you knew you had no choice, but you had

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<v Speaker 1>to get this the first time, and the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>not standard really but like um, what does seem to

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<v Speaker 1>happen quite a bit as you do. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>do a big wide shot first, normally that's what you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get first, and you sort of there some ship out then,

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<v Speaker 1>like you figure some ship out, you figure out what

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the other actor is gonna do, and you have that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of conversation of like, oh interesting, cool, okay, great,

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<v Speaker 1>do that again. Because because you surprised me with it

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.919
<v Speaker 1>and and I didn't, then it took me out of

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it because I was watching it and I was like, oh,

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:40.199
<v Speaker 1>that was a good choice, and I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>ship Now Dom's thinking not Jason, So just hit me

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<v Speaker 1>with it again. I'm gonna get back into Jason. We

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<v Speaker 1>can react the way we need to react, and then

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you come in closer and closer and closer bit by bit,

0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and then you sort of get these cool little nuances

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever. And a good example of that actually is

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<v Speaker 1>the last scene with Alberta and either fight scene um

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of original written and originally rehearsed with it

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.439
<v Speaker 1>was like anger. I was angry that this thing that

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 1>had happened, and we did the first big wide take

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and Alberto and I went aside and we're like, it

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.399
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel it's not working, like it doesn't feel quite right.

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why it doesn't feel right, but it

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>feels like I'm fighting my emotions and and whatever. And

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Alberto even said like let those emotions go,

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.439
<v Speaker 1>like let yourself be entirely vulnerable, because we've reached a

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.879
<v Speaker 1>place Simon and Jason were comfortable with each other, like

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>let your emotions go. And I was like, okay, shot, yeah,

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:28.479
<v Speaker 1>let me try that. And we tried it and we went,

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>oh wow, yeah, no, there that's where that all felt correct.

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>And when you run out of time, you don't have

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that play space, you don't have that section there, and

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that I know. I've done scenes, not just in shadow,

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 1>and there's and all sorts of different productions where we

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>ran out of time and that was there, like, man, yeah,

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I wish I had I wish I had a couple more.

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I wish I In fact, that's a very common act

0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of phrases, I wish I had one more, I wish

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I had one more take because I could feel that

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>there was like something brewing on the precipice. It's like

0:23:58.119 --> 0:23:59.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're in the shower and you want

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to re have a conversation that you've had previously. You

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.240
<v Speaker 1>always you always, even as yourself, you always think of

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the like ship there it was, that's what I should

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>have said, That's what I should have said, because that's

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>how I genuinely feel. But it took me a couple

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>of times of having that conversation to get it out.

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's very similar when you're on set. There's there

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>are times where you do need to have that conversation

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>more than once to go. This is actually how I

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.199
<v Speaker 1>feel about it. And there are times when we just

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.239
<v Speaker 1>don't have time. The big one is chasing sunlight or

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:29.360
<v Speaker 1>sunlight's chasing uts um. You know, if the scene needs

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to be at nighttime and the sun is coming up,

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you've only got so much time. You've only got until

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the sun comes up. So I find those to be

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>very disappointing days, but there's nothing to be done about them.

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>So there you go. Indeed, so I think let's move

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>on to the casting character's section. You know, they people

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know about the cast and the characters in

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>the Shadow World and have all felt about them. The

0:24:54.200 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>j Uiera good jobs, So sorry, V how you era?

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I'm butchering this name I'm so sorry. Wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know in what ways do we feel as though we're

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 1>like our characters. We've been asked this one before, definitely,

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>probably not by yourself. It's I think Jason became more

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like me as it went on. No, I don't even

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>know if that's true. I think that's just something that's

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that's such a press answer, that's such as someone told

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.239
<v Speaker 1>me to say that. That's just that's just not the

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>case at all. I don't think we asked himilar and

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and and I like taking roles where I'm not similar

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to the person. I like that. I enjoy doing that.

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.679
<v Speaker 1>And there are definitely elements of myself. I'm fiercely loyal,

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm very willing to do things for other people

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and put maybe them first, sometimes sometimes to my own detriment.

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>But that that, and also that that loyalty in and

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of itself can be kind of selfish sometimes. And I

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 1>know Jas has a selfishness with him, and and that's

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>tricky too. So I don't know. I I think we're

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>very dissimilar people in lots of ways. But I think

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>when you're playing it, when you're playing one of the

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 1>good guys, you want to hope that deep down you're

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>aligned some way because you're playing one of the good guys.

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>You're playing someone with a good heart who's doing the

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>right thing for the right reasons. So I would hope

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that at least that sort of key level of morality

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>is similar between him and I. But other than that,

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we just we look pretty similar and all the moment.

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I have a beard now, but previously we previously on

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Tom Showoo's Life, I used to look a lot like Jason. Yeah,

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, it's interesting because I I saw

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>some similarities between myself and Clary when I started and throughout,

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 1>but looking back, I think, you know, we were a

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>lot more similar than I realized, which I wasn't used to.

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I never really played a character that was like me

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 1>in any way, which provided its own set of vulnerabilities

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and challenges along the way, because you have to really

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>go to parts of your psyche and your heart that

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.360
<v Speaker 1>are very close the bone and very close to home,

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and that can be an experience, for lack of a

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 1>better word. But it's nice looking back because I definitely

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>grew with Clary. You know, these two care these Clary

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and myself, they were these young women thrown into worlds

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that they knew nothing about and that they didn't have

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>any experience in and had to find a way to

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>navigate and create a family and grow and become something

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that they never thought they could be. And that I

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>was very grateful for that because I, you know, as

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you said, we grew up on this show, and we

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>grew up with these people, and and I I was

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>figuring out who I was as an adult and an

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>artist in a person. Well, Clary was figuring out who

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>she was as a shadow wonder and uh, it's it's

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting looking back on that, and I'm it's one reason

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 1>why this is always going to be so special to me.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Good answer, Um, Danielle or Daniel one six one four brown?

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Probably Daniel. I want to say Daniel, but this could

0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>be Danielle. I don't know. It's it's spelled so many

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>from ah Man. I don't know Dan, Danielle or Daniel

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>won six one brown? Who is your favorite guest star? Wow?

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh jeez, that's a tricky question. Honestly, that's like asking

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>us which of our siblings we like the most cats

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and only child. So that's a fairly easy question for her,

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>but for me, that would be though you're an only child, right, Yes,

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>for lack of a a better word, my my mom tends

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 1>to adopt friends of mine from time to time, so

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I had a few adopted siblings at this point. But yeah, yeah, okay,

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. There you go, um favorite guest star man.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>There were so many because you what you don't understand,

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I think is some of our guest stars became such

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>regular parts of the cast that you would assume that

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>they were series regulars. Jay's is one, Nicola is another.

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>We saw them so often that you would assume that

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe they were part of the standard cast, but they aren't.

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I think if we because yeah, I mean, mine would

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>be Nicola. If we were going on paper of like

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.719
<v Speaker 1>guest star guest star, it would be Nicolas. Nicholas one

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite people in the world. However, I think

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>if we were going to go on like people who

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of came in for like an episode, Adam Harrington

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>was amazing. I had a lot of fun with Adam Harrington. Also,

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Mimi's amazing. And then Adam Kenneth Wilson, who played Ragna,

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>came in and and first of all did one of

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the best British accents I've ever heard in my entire life,

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>like like to the point where I was asking him

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>whereabouts in England is from and he was like, oh, no, Darling,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually from here. I'm from here. I just this

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Ragna has has a British accent. And I was like,

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. That's better than my British accent. And I'm British.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>So if we're talking about guest stars who were just

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>in for like a day, those two guys are probably

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>up them. By this, we can't forget Harvier Munus as

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>well harveyer as a good one. Yeah it's a really

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>good one. Or again yeah, Tesa, I don't think one

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>of our day players, you know what I mean? Like

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't a one episode like she had an arc,

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>she had a whole but she You're right, Tessa was

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>technically a guest star. Tessa has come like and Jade

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>as well as another one like jadeas soon who is

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>technically a guest star. But we don't we don't see

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>those people as guest after David Castro. David Castro is

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.479
<v Speaker 1>another one, like they weren't guest stars. They would they

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>were a part of this with us you know. So, yeah,

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's a really tricky question to want

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to it is. I mean, and you know, technically Will

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Tutor was a guest star, Luke Bains, you know, all

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>of these people who came in and became such huge

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>parts of the family and huge parts of our lives.

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I will say, if if you know, I had to

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>shadow you know, shadow Hunter's weapon to my throat, I

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>would have to say Nicola and Maris just because of

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the ark that Maris had. It was such a dissimilar

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>arc arc from the book and such a dissimilar story.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>But so because of the impact that Malik had, they

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>almost were able to exponentially grow that impact and grow

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the sort of emotional impact that the show had, and

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the and the growth for the shadow fan that it provided,

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and and the safe space and the comfort and the

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you know help. I guess is for lack of a

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>better word, that that the show was able to give

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>people and the rest of it by telling not only

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a story of this relationship, but a story of a

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>family and a mother and son and parents navigating this

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>relationship and and siblings and families and you know, institutions

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>as well. And it it became such a special, beloved

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>aspect of the show, and you know, taking a character

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that would have just remained a villain as it were,

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and humanizing her and giving her a new life and

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a love story and everything else as the end the

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 1>show came to an end. It's really it became so

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>nuanced and complex, and I think a lot of that

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>too has to do with Nicola and just the capacity

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>she has as an actress as well. I would I

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>would agree. It's it's one of those impossible questions because

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>you're asked us, as I said, it's like which of

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>our siblings we like the most? Like there's no there's

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>no real answer to that question. And then also so

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>many of these people in our heads were not guest stars. Um, yeah, tricky.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>So I hope we vaguely answered that question. For sake

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of time. Shall we jump to the next section. Let's

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>do it. So here are some what ifs, which I

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>think this might be the section I'm looking forward to most.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>There's a few what if questions because why not dream

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>about the future. So I think we've actually been asked

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>this question before. What would because we've talked so much

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>about weddings. If klace were to have gotten married one day,

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>what would that wedding have looked like? And what what

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>would that have been? Such an interesting question, like j

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Saint so good with the romance we know now he,

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they both would have just turned it over

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to Magnus and said, I think Magnus would have done

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of helping planet and do everything and tell

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>us what to do. I honestly think, especially based on

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>how their relationship came to a close in the story,

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Simon would have done a lot of helping

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>because Simon new has known Clary since they were kids, right,

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>like I think he, I think Jas would have asked him.

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I think you would have asked him for help. Um

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And while and this is a cool idea, while Alec

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>may have been Jason's Sunjin, is not right Sunjin, I

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>think surgeon sun gink. I'm pretty sure that me that's

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like shadow on to best man, maybe Alberto, maybe he's

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Simon would have been Jason's best man, the mundane version

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>of that, and they would have been able to have

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of an amalgam those of those. I think it's right,

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>because you know, Simon came so full circle with Jace

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and Hare's known Clary so well, so he really is

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the bridge between that couple. Yeah. Um, As far as

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>what it would look like, I don't know. I don't

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>think it would be. I don't think it would be

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>as flashy as Magnus Alec. I think, honestly, I think

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>what both of them and we used to joke about

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>this all the time, like if you could cross over

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a show, which one would it be? And it would

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>be like some fucking travel show. We just get to

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>go and sit on a beach for a little bit.

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Like that kind of sounds like the perfect wedding for me.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Where you're for them, like where you're away from from everything,

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>from all of the torturous version of life that they've

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>had growing up, especially Jay's um and get to fully

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>escape into into a world with just the people they

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>care about, just a very small grouping of people. Um.

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>There are sort of in a circle of people, and

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>they get to celebrate how much they care about each

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>other with the people that they want to celebrate that with,

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>UM in a place that maybe nobody's been before, maybe

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and maybe it's a place that not only nobody's been married,

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 1>nobody's ever even visited. And I think that's something that

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>would be very special to to Jay's at least. I

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 1>think it would be interesting to you know, find a

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>part of the Silly realm that is tropical, or to

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, go to the beaches of somewhere, some forests,

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>not in an institute, not in a it would have

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>been I think, out somewhere that that maybe meant something

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:09.439
<v Speaker 1>to them throughout the years. But very interesting thoughts. Looks

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the next word I've done, Let's see, let's see, let's

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>see from Shadow Cat Clary. Place, that's a solid name,

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>good job. Would have loved to see an episode of

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 1>just Place. If there was, what would they be doing?

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 1>They would be fighting, they with each other. They would

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>be arguing about something. Clary would have said, I've got

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to go do this thing, and Jace would have said, no,

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you probably shouldn't. She would have done it anyway, and

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>then James would have come and saved her life, and

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>then she would have basically figured out something at the

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>end that saved them both just miraculously that Jason, because

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>he's a bad shot. Answer. That's the episode. That's that.

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>If we're going based on like story writing historically, like

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the ability of these people to do the things that

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>they've done in continuum. That's what the episode would have been.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it would also be interesting to have an

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>episode of them like at Ikea trying to furnish their

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>apartment or you know, fighting demons while also having an

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>argument and just dealing with a couple of stuff while

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>they're slashing. That would have been really fun. Like the

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 1>concept of that would have been would have been really fun,

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like mid argument, mid fight instead of seeing this or

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.240
<v Speaker 1>like whilst seeing this synergy between like you and myself

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>or between is he analec or me? And me and

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>aalec or you? And is he seeing that synergy whilst

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>also having a confrontation between the two would have been

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:36.919
<v Speaker 1>an interesting like dynamic to play with. Who knows even

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>if we are even if we're fighting, Like maybe in

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 1>ten years when they do a reunion series and I'm

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 1>playing fourty year old Jays, then then we can throw

0:36:48.680 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that one in there. I mean, let's do it all, right,

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>So let's jump into rooms. So lacy l seven says,

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>what is each of your favorite room? Jason Clary use

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>or favorite in general? Here's my thing about the runs,

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>right is there were like three that I used continuously

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>throughout the show. The Irati was the main one because

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I was continuously getting hurt or beaten up or murdered,

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>So that was like the big one for me. The

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>rest of them, even when we were doing the show,

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know what they were. No, no real clue.

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys tell us all the time. We're you know,

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>we're at fan events wherever, and you're like, oh, yeah,

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>this rumor on your shoulder, and now I have it

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and put it on my shoulder and I'm like, oh,

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that, but okay, cool, it's good to

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>know that that's the case. There were so many. There

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>were so many, and then with the introduction in season

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>two of Clary being would have just make shut up.

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>There were so many, and then we were adding new

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>ones to them all the time, and then these situations

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>would happen like is it end of season two or

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>mid season three break? I can't remember where is he

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>just has one wish, her eyes go like technical and

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>she can like see all of the stuff in the building.

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that would have been so useful

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>like forty different times in this show, and we just

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>could haven't used it yet. But right now it's a

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 1>useful thing, So I didn't I never knew what they were,

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna have to go with a Razi. Also,

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>we have toyed with this as an idea. If the

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Razi Room would be able to get rid of a

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 1>hangover in real life, that's gonna be my favorite. Yeah,

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I think one of my favorite rooms from when I

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.479
<v Speaker 1>read the books and then in the series. We didn't

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>get to use it a lot in the series, which

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I wish we had. That would have been something if

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 1>we'd done the War with the Darkened and we've done

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>all of the book six stuff in full, we would

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>have seen a lot more of was that. I believe

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it's called the Unite Room. That's and it's one of

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the last ones that Clary creates. Allows a shadow Hunter

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.479
<v Speaker 1>to be paired with the down worlder and their their

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>gifts to be sort of crossed over and combined and there,

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's what allows us to go to eat

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>them and what allows us to do all these other things.

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>And not only did it provide a lot of fun

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>for us, you know, me getting vamp speed for a

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 1>few minutes and you getting the sea life thing for

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and you know, all of these elements,

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>but it also just it goes back to what Shadow

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Hunters is all about and just allowing two people who

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 1>are working for the same cause from completely different backgrounds,

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 1>completely different creatures, are able to combine their gifts in

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the most literal way and use them for the common

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 1>good and use them to fight against what is trying

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to destroy everything. And I think that's such a beautiful

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>metaphor and it's you know again, I wish we could

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>have explored it more in the series. Yeah, there's definitely

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a cool subsection of of like story plotlines that we

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>got to go through with that because that was that

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>was good fund and those are good fun days. So

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 1>let's move on to legacy. One of our favorite things

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>is seeing how the show affects you, guys, even after

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the years it's ended. And honestly, it's so true to

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>see the the way that this show has lived with

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>so many people for such a long time and still

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to this day because we're still doing this is really

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>quite uncommon and quite cool for us to experience because

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>most shows, and you as viewers will know this most

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>shows once they're gone. That's kind of it. It's just

0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>gone and everyone moves on to another thing, and that's

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 1>not really the case with this. So this has been

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 1>This has been lovely. So let's see how some of

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>your fan questions lead to the effects it's had on us.

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Aliva underscore Maja or Maha with three eyes in the

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>pre vat do you ever want to get a Shadow

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Hunters related tattoo? By the way I love you guys

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>by the way we love you right back both have

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Shadow Answers related tattoos. It's true. Well, it was mostly

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>alcohol's idea. If I'm on its alcohol and then and

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:05.280
<v Speaker 1>then the I don't know if I blame the taxi driver,

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>but the fact that that I got out of the

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>car next to a tattoo parlor, it all seemed very

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>serendipitous to me, and that is that that's basically what

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it happened. We Alberta and I have been to a

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift concert and we've gotten quite drunk, and then

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>we had to go to the rat party of season

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>one and got out of the car and Alberta got

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>out on the right and the rat party was on

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the right, and I got out on the left, and

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>there was a tattoo parlor on the left, and I went, yeah,

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting one. So before I went into the rat party,

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 1>I went and got the Angelic Room tattooed on my leg,

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and then I went into the rat party and the

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>first person I stow was Alan, who took one look

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>at me and went, why have you got? You put

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>plastic wrap like cling film around your around your tattoo

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to keep it clean right after you've had it. And

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Alan was going in there, what have you done with

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>your leg? And I went, I just went and got

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a tattoo, and he went, I'm getting on. And then

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>subsequently I think I think like eight or nine of

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>us got it that night, and then over the course

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of the show we had hair and makeup getting them

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of different people. I don't know if

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you remember this, dumb because of said extenuating circumstances, but

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you called me while you were on the table getting

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that, did I. I answered the phone

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and you didn't even say hello. You just said bring

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 1>everyone across the street. And I was like, what where

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>are you? What's going on? He was like, bring everyone

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>across the street right now. I got the gang and

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right doms across the street, and

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>we walk in and you were on the table getting tattooed,

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>and we all sort of went, well, all right, we're

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>doing this now, this is the whole thing. Maybe it

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>was more my fault than I remember. I I what

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I do remember is the tattoo artists being very confused

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>about tattooing a whole whole plethora of different people from

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>different backgrounds and whatever with the exact same image. And

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>he I think he was stoned. I think he was

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>stone because we went. When we got in, he was

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in a very large lounger and he was watching cartoons.

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>There's anything wrong with that. I love cartoons. But he

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>was already and I remember him sort of looking over

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>like hey man, and I was like, hey, I want

0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 1>to get this image tattoo and he goes, okay, cool.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>And then we came in with the next person and

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>he went hey man, and I went, hey man, I

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you remember me, and he sort of

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>went like not really, and I was like, okay, well,

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>can we get this image tattooed? And then it just

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>kept going and I think he got more and more confused.

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Blessed socks, but you probably thought it was some sort

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 1>of cult or something, which yeah, but um. I then

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>proceeded to get a tattoo for every season that sort

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of stacked on top of the first one of a

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.240
<v Speaker 1>different room that whatever it was that exemplified the season

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>or whatever place in life I was in, And it

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>became a really nice memento of of the show because

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it forced me to think about what was this season

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:38.919
<v Speaker 1>for Clary and what was this year for me? And

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>what you know, what room can I pick that represents

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>that the most? And yeah, no, no regrets as one

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of um what's next? So the next question is from

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Planet Trish, what did playing Jason Clary teach you for

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>your career and other roles? I think I learned more.

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>This was sort of one of my first times being

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>a co lead of a show. You know, Clary Cat

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 1>was obviously the lead of our show, but the sort

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of the male love interest lead version of that. Um,

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>this was one of my first times experiencing that. And

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot that comes with it that you don't

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.959
<v Speaker 1>really realize perhaps as audience members. The number one thing

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>is that attitude trickles downwards always, So if you turn

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>up with a good attitude, that's going to be reflected

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>with how people enjoy the day, how they start enjoying

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>their work, how it is for guest stars to come in,

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the sort of relationships you build on set, and how

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>easy the days end up being. Cat always did a

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 1>very good job with this. I mean, how tired we were.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>She was always upbeat, she always had a smile, and

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 1>she was always ready to go. And that's something that

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I have taken with me career wise. That's something that

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I would always do really, no matter what what stage

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<v Speaker 1>of the sort of the acting hierarchy you're in on

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<v Speaker 1>a set, not only can you make your day a

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<v Speaker 1>better day by taking the good parts of it and

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<v Speaker 1>holding on and letting go of the bad parts of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can make everyone else's day around you better

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<v Speaker 1>by doing exactly that. And I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>just an acting thing. I think this is a pretty

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>unilateral career thing. You can make everyone's day around you better,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that gets reflected backwards because the person who's

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<v Speaker 1>day you just made a little better by being a

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<v Speaker 1>little nice or even though you didn't want to because

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you were tired or sleepy or hungry or whatever it was,

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 1>then that person later on the day might be tired

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 1>or sleep you're hungry, but give you a smile back

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>when they didn't want to because they were tired, and

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.000
<v Speaker 1>sleep you're hungry. And then it just becomes this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of circular thing where everyone picks each other up as

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<v Speaker 1>and when they sort of need to. So that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's stuck with me career wise, from playing these characterism

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<v Speaker 1>from being on this this set. Yeah, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>much the same, you know. It's we were so lucky

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<v Speaker 1>to have a set where ego was virtually non existent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in any department, people were there to do

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<v Speaker 1>the job, to take care of each other and to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the story and to make each other better. And

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that when you're doing a show that's nights and fighting

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and tears and blood and all of these other things,

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it's hard work. It's the best job in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's hard work, and you have to support each

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<v Speaker 1>other and you have to be there to carry each

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<v Speaker 1>other through because inevitably everybody's going to have one bad

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<v Speaker 1>day at least when you're you're in the middle of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, as as you often know and as

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<v Speaker 1>became maybe too much at times, I will always find

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a silver lighting. I will always look for the bright side.

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<v Speaker 1>I will always even if it's silly and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to make it up, I will find some reason to

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>try and make someone smile. And that's always been inherently

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<v Speaker 1>a part of who I am, but it becomes so

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<v Speaker 1>much more important on a set like that. But also

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I had never been a lead of a show in

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 1>that scenario either, and so I was so happy to

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<v Speaker 1>have people like Isaiah and Harry who had been around

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the block so many times, who'd been through this. Harry

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>had just been through Glee, Isaiah has been in this

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>industry forever. And getting to watch them and the way

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that they interacted with the crew, you know, having Isaiah

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 1>come on set every day and say hello to every

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>single person and say goodbye to every single person before

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he leaves, no matter how long his day was. I

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 1>saw how much that meant to everyone on set. And

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to have Harry come in and be such a total

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>pro and know his stuff and come in with ideas

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that are so characterful and so interesting, you know, it

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 1>became such an element that all of that taught me

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>so much, and the camaraderie that we were able to

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>build that that carried everything through and trickled to the

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>entire crew. It made the show what it was and

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you saw it on screen. You saw the byproduct of

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>that symbiosis on screen, and you know, again, that's what

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I strive to carry through to any job I'm on,

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 1>in any aspect of my life. Yeah, smart, we got

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>two last questions. Let's do it. Here are some questions

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<v Speaker 1>about rewatching Shadow Wants and this podcast. Honestly, it has

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>been a huge amount of fun to be able to

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>dive into this, and especially we we did a little

0:47:58.320 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes of how this works. Today we sort

0:47:59.920 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 1>of run out of time. I couldn't film yesterday and

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to film yesterday, and then today we ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of time a little bit. So we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>do one. We're supposed to record too, and we're going

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:08.879
<v Speaker 1>to do one, and we have the discussion of which

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 1>one do we want to do, and we said, oh, absolutely,

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>we're going to do the mail bag. We have to

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>do the mail bag because we want to get these

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>questions in and now we love having this interaction with

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys, as do our co producers on the show,

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>who works so hard to bring this stuff to you.

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>They honestly do an absolutely amazing job. So this has

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:26.839
<v Speaker 1>been a lot of fun and thank you for your

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 1>amazing questions. That's uh, let's jump into some Sammy a

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:37.319
<v Speaker 1>hern a h n g um. I'm not even going

0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to give it another go. That's that's the best starts

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<v Speaker 1>day and I apologize, Sammy. When is the best time

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<v Speaker 1>to rewatch Shadow Hunters? Lots of loved from the Philippines

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and lots of blood right back to the Philippines. The

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>best time? That's an interesting one. Honestly. What I did

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<v Speaker 1>find is time of day wise is nighttime, like when

0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it's dark because the show, I mean, it's a supernatural

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 1>show about demons and vampires. Like there's so much like

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 1>physical darkness, like lack of light on screen that I

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>remember trying and watch them in the daytime a couple

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of times when I was in Toronto, and do you

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>remember my apartment Toronto, it was like floor to ceiling

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>windows everywhere and black out the place at all, and

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 1>it actually became quite hard to watch some of it,

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.439
<v Speaker 1>like you miss bits. So I would say the best

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<v Speaker 1>time to watch it is get it dark, you know,

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>lights out, watch it at home when it's nighttime. And

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 1>that would be the best time. I agree, I think,

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's it sets the mood, It's sets

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the tone. Pop yourself from popcorn and you know, make

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 1>a magnus worthy cocktail or mocktail and have a ball. Uh.

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:40.280
<v Speaker 1>And then for our final question from Mila sixty six tier,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the most fun part of doing these podcasts? I

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>am all of it now, I think for me, aside

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 1>from these mail bag episodes that are so fun. To

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<v Speaker 1>have this interaction and to continue to answer all of

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the questions that we haven't gotten a chance to and

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:58.879
<v Speaker 1>reliving the episodes we have given our story so many

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:01.759
<v Speaker 1>times at different Comma cons and press interviews and doing

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>all this, we shared our experience, We've told our story,

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 1>we have all our funny moments. There's still more to tell,

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:09.839
<v Speaker 1>which is why we're here. But getting to bring on

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<v Speaker 1>people that meant so much to us, like Darren McGuire,

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:17.279
<v Speaker 1>like Glenn Warner, like Nicola and you know everyone else

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that hopefully we will have on the podcast one of

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>these days. Getting to hear the experience and the story

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and getting to give an audience to that for the

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 1>people that helped create the world and helped us tell

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the story and and often our aspects of filmmaking that

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.280
<v Speaker 1>don't get light shed on them, and you know, hopefully,

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 1>my my hope is that you know, it helps to

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>celebrate the Shadow world for what it is. But also

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 1>if someone out there loves telling stories and and wants

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of this industry but doesn't know

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.800
<v Speaker 1>what a camera operator does, or a costume designer or

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>a wardrobe assistant or a director of photography or whatever

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it may be, it sheds light on those careers as well,

0:50:56.480 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and and hopefully allows more people with a myriad of

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 1>talents and an opportunity to to be a part of

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 1>this story telling. Yeah, no kidding, it's honestly, really beautifully put,

0:51:06.600 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 1>and I agree wholeheartedly. I think the best thing about

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, and the best thing that we've done, and

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the best thing that the producers have have done with us,

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:19.359
<v Speaker 1>is get on the lesser known talents from the show.

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Get on the people like Darren, like Glenn, like that,

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 1>and again like others that we're going to get on

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>who in all honesty worked harder than us. They worked

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>so much harder than us. Every single one of them

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 1>had a hand in making Jace, who he wasn't clearly

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>who she was, and Magnus who he was, and Alec

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:37.440
<v Speaker 1>who he was, and Simon who he wasn't Isy who

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't on and so forth. Every single one of

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 1>the people that we get on helped us develop those

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.799
<v Speaker 1>people and helped us develop these stories and helped us

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 1>tell these stories. And I think one of the true

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 1>shames to a lot of audience members around the world

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>is that you never get to see that element of it,

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>because one to us, it's very exciting. It's a very

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:59.960
<v Speaker 1>cool process to build something. You know, you don't buy

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a lego made, you know what I mean. You sit

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:03.839
<v Speaker 1>there and you make it and you put it together,

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's what we that's what we do with these people,

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 1>sometimes literally, but I think to being able to share

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 1>some of those experiences with people who cared so much

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:15.839
<v Speaker 1>about the show, being able to tell them that these

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>are the people that that really made it happen, it's

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:21.880
<v Speaker 1>really fucking special. So that is that I agree with

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 1>you can. I think that's probably my favorite thing we've

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 1>done well. And I think that's a perfect place to

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:30.879
<v Speaker 1>wrap up this episode and to thank each and every

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>one of you Angels for sending in questions and continuing

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.439
<v Speaker 1>to listen and continuing to share this experience with us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's such a special thing, and you know, particularly

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>around the holidays, you sort of look back at your

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>year and go, what did I do this year? What

0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>did I accomplish? What was my favorite part? And having

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 1>this podcast launch and be such a big part of

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>our lives and a big part of the fandom, and

0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the way that you've welcomed it is really wonderful. So

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you to our amazing producers and to you um

0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to I Heeart for putting us out in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and to all of you the Shadow Film for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us once again. Return to the Shadows is hosted an

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<v Speaker 1>executive produced by me Dominic, Sherwood and Katherine McNamara. Our

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:17.800
<v Speaker 1>executive producer is Lingley. Our senior producers are Liz Hayes

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and Diego Tapia, and our producers are Hannah Harris and

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Kristin Vermilion. Our intern is Sam Cats. Original music by

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Alex Kinzy performed by Alex Kinzy and Katherine McNamara, and

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<v Speaker 1>the episode was mixed by Seth A. Lanskaya. Make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you subscribe to Return to the Shadows wherever you get

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