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Speaker 2: and in some cities ESPN Radio. NFL preseason, the final
Speaker 2: week starters are going to rest, and you have two
Speaker 2: games on Thursday. You got games all weekend long. College
Speaker 2: football starts this weekend. And we realized that there was
Speaker 2: a Delaware States trying to get to Hawaii to play
Speaker 2: a game. They missed their flight in New York and
Speaker 2: their game is going to be Saturday night, but it
Speaker 2: would be it would start at twelve eastern for Delaware State,
Speaker 2: and so I would think Hawaii is already a big
Speaker 2: favorite here. We were trying to get an update is
Speaker 2: Delaware State going to make it to Hawaii, and Paulie said,
Speaker 2: right now, he's trying to get in touch with the
Speaker 2: Delaware State program.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have their hands full right now, but we're
Speaker 3: expecting an email back any minute. We did find a
Speaker 3: little bit about the line was twenty eight and a
Speaker 3: half and then after the travel issues with Delaware State,
Speaker 3: it went up to thirty eight. Those people in Vegas,
Speaker 3: they know what they're doing. What a poorly rested Delaware
Speaker 3: State team might not put up as much of a fight.
Speaker 3: That's so Vegas to say. Bonus coverage. The Hawaii Rainbow's name,
Speaker 3: the team was always the Warriors, and then they changed
Speaker 3: to the Rainbow Warriors. Back in the seventies. The reporters
Speaker 3: noticed that there was a couple wins where there was
Speaker 3: a rainbow that happened during the game, and they had
Speaker 3: this running gag like there's a rainbow, we win, and
Speaker 3: became the Rainbow Warriors in nineteen seventy four, they dropped
Speaker 3: the rainbow part in two thousand didn't go over well,
Speaker 3: and in twenty thirteen, Why rightly brought back Rainbow Warriors
Speaker 3: as the sports team name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Bows better than they do. The Warriors.
Speaker 2: Gorgeous helmets, the Rainbow gorgeouses. Yes, very underrated. All right,
Speaker 2: So we got football coming up this weekend. It's what
Speaker 2: zero week or Week zero as opposed to the first
Speaker 2: week of college football. I was also wondering about this
Speaker 2: now with the twelve team playoff and how you schedule
Speaker 2: your games outside of your conference. If you're in the
Speaker 2: SEC or you're in the Big Ten, are you going
Speaker 2: to schedule somebody outside of your conference? Look at Oregon,
Speaker 2: Penn State, and Ole Miss, three programs that have a
Speaker 2: lot of talent on there, but playoff hopes. You know,
Speaker 2: they would normally not happen because there were only four
Speaker 2: teams in the playoffs. Three playoff hopefuls set to play
Speaker 2: seven teams that are ranked in the preseason top twenty five.
Speaker 2: Combined those three schools, and in prior years you could
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, but it would be difficult if you
Speaker 2: were adding these teams that were really good. Eight additional
Speaker 2: teams now set to participate in the playoffs, so the
Speaker 2: schedule doesn't have to be as tough as it was.
Speaker 2: It's not as beneficial because you did need strength the schedule.
Speaker 2: Now it's just hey, we can get in and be
Speaker 2: one of these twelve teams. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is going to change out a conference scheduling and
Speaker 2: maybe on its way out, but just for instance, here,
Speaker 2: Ohio State plays four teams ranked in the top twenty
Speaker 2: five this year. This is preseason. Obviously, Georgia has five
Speaker 2: in the top twenty five. Oregon has just two in
Speaker 2: the top twenty five, but they do have Ohio State
Speaker 2: in Eugene, Texas four of twenty five. Notre Dame three
Speaker 2: of the twenty five. Penn State has two of the
Speaker 2: top twenty five opponents, Ole Miss three. Alabama has five
Speaker 2: of the top twenty five. Alabama plays Wisconsin this year.
Speaker 2: If you have five games against ranked opponents in the SEC,
Speaker 2: what does that mean? You know what is to gain?
Speaker 2: If you're Alabama from here on out with a twelve
Speaker 2: team playoff, if they're going to be playing teams outside
Speaker 2: of their conference. You got Michigan and Texas second week
Speaker 2: of the season, You're probably not going to have those
Speaker 2: matchups down the line because of the twelve team playoff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Pauli and the other part of that.
Speaker 3: If you're going to schedule a big, big opponent in
Speaker 3: the first week, a second week of the season, it
Speaker 3: might be that neutral site game Clemson at Georgia Saturday,
Speaker 3: August thirty first, they're playing that at Mercedes Benz Stateium Atlanta,
Speaker 3: or you know, like the Cowboys Stadium they always host
Speaker 3: a big game, or Innanapolis will host a game. So
Speaker 3: those early season matchups Texas remember a couple years ago,
Speaker 3: Texas would play Ohio State, but they would do home
Speaker 3: at home. Those will be more neutral sites because you
Speaker 3: get more money, more payouts that way.
Speaker 2: Well, Texas played Alabama a couple of years ago. Opening
Speaker 2: up this season, or at least one of the early seasons,
Speaker 2: NBC and the NFL kicking off the season. Two big
Speaker 2: matchups coming up Thursday, September fifth, it's the Ravens and
Speaker 2: Chiefs that'll be on NBC and Peacock. And then on
Speaker 2: Friday live from Brazil it's the Packers in the Eagles
Speaker 2: that is on Peacock exclusively. Man, it got here quick,
Speaker 2: didn't it. And the fact that we're going to play
Speaker 2: a game in Brazil to open up the second night
Speaker 2: of the season, and then you're going to have Sunday
Speaker 2: Night with NBC as well, But it's a full slate
Speaker 2: coming up, and it starts off with NBC and Peacock.
Speaker 2: You have what forty days to go in the baseball season,
Speaker 2: so you have Orioles, Guardians, Astros, Phillies, Brewers, and the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: You look at the odds and it really comes down
Speaker 2: to it's the Dodgers. They got the Yankees, the Astros
Speaker 2: in there. Of teams that can win at all, those
Speaker 2: are the favorites. Braves have suffered so many injuries, but
Speaker 2: forty days to go, and those are the teams that
Speaker 2: are in the first place, and you're going to get,
Speaker 2: you know, this stretch drive and who's going to stay healthy.
Speaker 2: I think the MVPs are pretty much settled. Otani and
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge. Does that sound about right? I don't think
Speaker 2: we've wavered on that. I think the only interest maybe, well,
Speaker 2: how many home runs does Aaron Judge get to and
Speaker 2: as show, hey Otani get to maybe maybe fifty to fifty?
Speaker 2: All right? We tease this long enough first hour poll
Speaker 2: question Manliest State in America, because I of course am
Speaker 2: in one of those Manley states Maine. This week Seaton.
Speaker 2: The manliest state in America is.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: Of these six options that we've provided, uh one, it's
Speaker 5: getting closer as time goes by. One has been in
Speaker 5: the lead since and has no out let go. The other,
Speaker 5: as of this moment, has received zero votes.
Speaker 2: Okay, your options are we took Alaska out of the
Speaker 2: equation here, right, they're emeritus, They're they're the manlea state. Right,
Speaker 2: They're the.
Speaker 5: Wildest, They're the manliest. Your options are Arizona, Maine, Montana,
Speaker 5: North Dakota, Wyoming, Texas.
Speaker 2: One. Wait, why did you put it Arizona in there?
Speaker 6: Because Arizona I feel like just based on the number
Speaker 6: of old people go to retire. Okay, well, they're doing
Speaker 6: a lot better than one of these other states that
Speaker 6: is on there. Okay, Arizona right now is I'll say this,
Speaker 6: Arizona is almost tied with Texas for manley estate.
Speaker 2: Once again.
Speaker 5: One state has has taken the lead and never given
Speaker 5: it up. The other one, as of right now, has
Speaker 5: zero votes. Arizona, Maine, Montana, North Dakota, Texas, Wyoming. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna say North Dakota is the manly estate. North Dakota
Speaker 5: right now is winning. Uh they've got a solid hold on.
Speaker 5: It's getting closer, though, they're only leading by three percentage points.
Speaker 7: Right now.
Speaker 2: The state that has received exactly zero votes is Maine.
Speaker 2: Oh are you to blame?
Speaker 8: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's a recency buy in at the shot. Wait, I
Speaker 2: came up to Maine and now it's not mainly anymore.
Speaker 2: We're huge in Maine.
Speaker 7: You know what.
Speaker 2: Because it's mainly is what it is. It's not manly,
Speaker 2: we're mainly. I am shocked. I am shocked. Wow, they're
Speaker 2: gonna export you. Yes, I'm gonna have to turn in
Speaker 2: my my main main card. Yes, you should grow a
Speaker 2: beard quick, do something. Go get that ax. Okay, thank
Speaker 2: you tom uh So. Man, I went fishing. I think
Speaker 2: about chopping wood had the boat. Well, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: do my best. That's that's for sure. But Maine has
Speaker 2: not received a vote. That's great. Shout out North Dakota though,
Speaker 2: killing it. North Dakota. I've been there. They might have
Speaker 2: the biggest mosquitos I've ever seen. My wife and I
Speaker 2: joked we went out for a wedding. We thought that
Speaker 2: one of our kids could get picked up by one
Speaker 2: of these mosquitos. They were They were so there there
Speaker 2: was room in the overhead bin for your luggage with
Speaker 2: these mosquitoes, and you're going and it gets cold out
Speaker 2: there and there is nothing to block the wind. So hey,
Speaker 2: shout out to North Dakota by the way.
Speaker 5: Uh, just not to underappreciate Montana coming in with a
Speaker 5: pretty strong, strong percentage as well. Right now, the races
Speaker 5: between North Dakota and Mountana for manly estate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna throw the BS flag on that
Speaker 2: because I don't think because I got to make if
Speaker 2: I wasn't here, Maine would probably be leading. Apparently. Well,
Speaker 2: you're you're taking it very personally.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's a statement on you and
Speaker 5: your manliness or lack thereof.
Speaker 2: That's you know what. I'm going to credit the audience
Speaker 2: for having a sense of humor. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's its content.
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, I wonder if Maine is suffering suffering some
Speaker 3: spillover because people around the country.
Speaker 2: In tougher states. I think the Northeast is soft.
Speaker 3: You know Connecticut and you know Massachusetts, Connecticut is yes, yes,
Speaker 3: but Maine would seceed from the Northeast if they could.
Speaker 3: They would be their own country.
Speaker 2: If they could. They're they're pretty tough up there. Yes,
Speaker 2: I mean we're right up there. Well, maybe being up
Speaker 2: close to Canada, say, way hurt Maine. Yeah, five days,
Speaker 2: it can be wicked cold up here.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I don't know that Rhode Island is helping
Speaker 5: our cause either. As no imple of a state, You're like, well,
Speaker 5: yeah they are, I guess. But as I knew what happened,
Speaker 5: Texas has immediately jumped into the lead right now because
Speaker 5: I knew that they would not stomach this whatsoever?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: Texas now leading, followed by North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming. Hey,
Speaker 5: Maine now second from last. They've picked up a couple
Speaker 5: of votes. They just jumped ahead of Arizona. Josh and
Speaker 5: mein Josh, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Or on dB Hey Bud, so Hey, I got to
Speaker 9: check in on this poll question real quick. I'm from Maine,
Speaker 9: lived here in forty one years. Here's what's happening, all right.
Speaker 9: The guys in Maine are already at work, the mainly man,
Speaker 9: they're already at work. So the guys just waking up,
Speaker 9: they're getting ready to go to work. That's that's who's
Speaker 9: volting right now. So it's it's cute.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, so.
Speaker 9: I call some real knowledge. I want to drop some
Speaker 9: knowledge on you.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 9: I got five things if you want to become a manor,
Speaker 9: these are five things you have to do, all right,
Speaker 9: you ready.
Speaker 7: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Let me yep, let me write them down. Okay, all right.
Speaker 9: Number one, you got to have a pickup truck. Okay,
Speaker 9: that's it's a non starter. You gotta have a truck.
Speaker 9: We don't care what shape it's in. Better off if
Speaker 9: it's a nineteen eighty four Chevy square body. We're good
Speaker 9: with that, all right. So that's the person. Number two,
Speaker 9: you got to have a pair of work boots. They
Speaker 9: got to be broken in. We don't care if you
Speaker 9: tie them, just wear them around, all right. Number three,
Speaker 9: you got to pay attention to this one. You gotta
Speaker 9: have some piece of equipment lawnmower, track their vehicle and
Speaker 9: have to sit on your front lawn. It doesn't have
Speaker 9: to run, and it's better off if it doesn't run.
Speaker 9: Just wave the hoog popped a little bit. That's how
Speaker 9: we know you're a true manner right there. Okay. Four,
Speaker 9: you got to have a garage, but you can't park
Speaker 9: your car in the garage. All your stuff has to
Speaker 9: be stored in the garage, and you park outside the garage.
Speaker 9: And number five, this is the most important one. You
Speaker 9: gotta always have a bottle of Alan's coffee brandy. You
Speaker 9: never know when I'll pull Bobby and Aunt Sally, you're
Speaker 9: gonna come over and they gotta have a beverage brandy.
Speaker 2: All right, well, let me see, Uh, gotta pickup truck.
Speaker 2: I think I might have designer work boots. I think
Speaker 2: they're really nice work boots. I might have work boots.
Speaker 4: You O.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, see, I don't know if Josh just helped
Speaker 5: mains case for the manliness contest though the.
Speaker 2: Most manly state.
Speaker 5: What you need in order to accomplish that is a truck,
Speaker 5: work boots, a lawnmower, and a garage.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, get it done.
Speaker 3: Gotta admit I did find one thing for you, Dan,
Speaker 3: a main tradition. It's Alan's coffee flavored brandy, number one
Speaker 3: selling spirit in the Great State of Maine.
Speaker 2: Wow, never heard of it. That's cool. Okay, all right, Okay,
Speaker 2: so garage, but it can't park anything in it. I'm
Speaker 2: going to put my boat in there. The equipment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you do have to have a front loader, as we
Speaker 2: like to say, I need that. Maybe, uh work boots.
Speaker 2: I can work on that and pickup truck. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think so. Oh you know what we were we
Speaker 2: came up with yesterday accidentally. If we were rappers in
Speaker 2: the state of Maine, what would be our rap name?
Speaker 2: We'll have that for you. Coming on that, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: can't leave. Yeah, yes, if we were a rapper in Maine,
Speaker 2: what would be our rap name? I'll have that for you.
Speaker 2: But coming up first, Ian O'Connor wrote the book on
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. What did he learn? And Uh, well, we'll
Speaker 2: see what the juicy details are coming out of that book.
Speaker 2: Take a break back after this.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Ian O'Connor, who wrote the book Out
Speaker 2: of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. He'll join
Speaker 2: us coming up here in a moment. A couple of
Speaker 2: phone calls Dan in South Bend. Hey Dan, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today? Hey Dan?
Speaker 11: Thanks for taking my call. I was gonna see if
Speaker 11: anybody would take me up on a pie of the
Speaker 11: safe bet. I think the Giants are gonna win eight games?
Speaker 2: Okay, So anybody want a piece of Dan in South
Speaker 2: Bend that the Giants will win at least eight games? Todd,
Speaker 2: I guess I should, because I said the Giants would
Speaker 2: be the worst team in football, so it would make
Speaker 2: sense for me to accept that bet.
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 2: Dan? That one pretty?
Speaker 4: Can I give you?
Speaker 9: Gather it?
Speaker 11: A little tit bit about Joe Shane. Okay, one of
Speaker 11: his best friends is Brad Stevens. They graduated together from DEPA.
Speaker 11: So it's a pretty good graduating class that DePaul Depa
Speaker 11: from Southern Indiana.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know what that has to do with
Speaker 2: possible success for the Giants there, but you got them
Speaker 2: winning at least eight games. Pie to the face Dave
Speaker 2: in California, Good morning, Dave. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: Going there? I just heard you mentioned earlier on the
Speaker 12: show that you felt that Aaron Judge Show he would
Speaker 12: be in two league MVPs if show had not gone
Speaker 12: to the National League and he was having the same
Speaker 12: season as he's having. Now, did you vote for GMV
Speaker 12: Pupil the American Let Show, hay or Aeron Judge?
Speaker 2: Well, I think you got a factor in team Day.
Speaker 2: But I think it's a really interesting question. I think
Speaker 2: the fact Otani has surprised me. He has been this
Speaker 2: good coming off surgery and I know, not pitching. But
Speaker 2: if he goes if he's forty forty, it would really
Speaker 2: depend on how successful his team is. Aaron Judge and
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge tough to come up with an encore performance
Speaker 2: considering what he did last year. But once again, it
Speaker 2: goes back to team's success should factor in when it
Speaker 2: comes to MVP, and that might tip the scales towards
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge if show Hay was still with the Angels.
Speaker 2: A pole question has to do with the Manley estate,
Speaker 2: and I am very disappointed in this audience because they
Speaker 2: have designated Maine as the least manly estate, probably because
Speaker 2: I am doing my show from Maine today. Jim and
Speaker 2: Idaho joints is Hi, Jim, what's on your mind? Dan?
Speaker 7: Boys?
Speaker 4: How the hell are you?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 2: Great? Jim?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm really offended that Idaho did not make the
Speaker 4: whole question today.
Speaker 8: Here's why.
Speaker 4: Let me give you a real world example of roughing
Speaker 4: it up her by other day, my fiber optic went out,
Speaker 4: couldn't get the internet, couldn't connect to my Peloton bike.
Speaker 4: So that's that's not roughing it. I don't know what
Speaker 4: I'm a good guy.
Speaker 2: Prayers all right, thank you, Jim? Yeah, thaunts and prayers.
Speaker 2: Somebody check on Jim and Idaho make sure he's okay.
Speaker 2: Adam in West Virginia, Hi, Adam, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 13: Dan, speaking of the mainly of state, al could seton
Speaker 13: who's been to WU not put West Virginia in there.
Speaker 13: I mean, well, I don't drink anybody. We had the
Speaker 13: best white water in the country. We have the Mountaineer.
Speaker 13: I mean, isn't there that? And Texas is soft dand
Speaker 13: they shouldn't be in the poll because I mean, anybody
Speaker 13: that gets defended by you know, horns Down, that's weak.
Speaker 2: That's okay, all right, Adam, thank you. I like this
Speaker 2: kind of mud slinging here between the states, and I
Speaker 2: agree if horns Down bothers you, how manly can you
Speaker 2: be in your state of Texas? Do you want me
Speaker 2: to disqualify Texas just based on horns Down? We can
Speaker 2: pull them all right down. We won't even have them
Speaker 2: on the list anymore.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 5: Montana, by the way, has jumped into the lead. We
Speaker 5: have Montana, followed by North Dakota. Texas is in third,
Speaker 5: though they'll be removed shortly.
Speaker 2: Main don't you have all those Hollywood types who've moved
Speaker 2: to Montana. They're they're they're soft. They're not going to
Speaker 2: go up there and rough it. How he long you know,
Speaker 2: lives in Montana. Yes, yes, I shouldn't say that he's
Speaker 2: not man. I was going to say that kind of
Speaker 2: helps Montana's longs there. Yeah, yeah, you're right, let me
Speaker 2: take that out.
Speaker 3: Yes, Howie's head should be the Montana state fly. He's
Speaker 3: got that big jawline.
Speaker 2: He's so tough.
Speaker 3: I would say that that TV show Yellowstone really hoped
Speaker 3: helped Montana's toughness. Like we knew about ranchers and you know,
Speaker 3: ranching and stuff like that, but when a bad rancher
Speaker 3: on Yellowstone got out the line, they just.
Speaker 2: Dispose of them, if you know what I mean. That's tough.
Speaker 2: It's a TV show. Poll I know people thought it
Speaker 2: was real. It's not real documentary. It's not a documentary.
Speaker 2: It is an unauthorized biography of Aaron Rodgers. Ian O'Connor, sportswriter,
Speaker 2: New York Times best selling author, And the new book
Speaker 2: is Out of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Why Aaron Rodgers, Well, it starts with Vince Lombardi.
Speaker 14: Vincelambardi coached my high school. Is the only head coaching
Speaker 14: job you ever had before the Green Bay Packers. And
Speaker 14: he lived eight houses away from me in Anglood, New Jersey.
Speaker 14: And so I was always fascinated by the Packer mistake
Speaker 14: and thought I had that Packers book.
Speaker 8: Inside of me, so I guess this is the one.
Speaker 14: But Aaron from a distance, I always found him to
Speaker 14: be compelling, mysterious, intriguing.
Speaker 8: He got traded into my backyard.
Speaker 14: I was working on a Lebron James bio and I
Speaker 14: pivoted away from it to Aaron because I think he's
Speaker 14: a fascinating character, and I thought the marriage of him
Speaker 14: and this Charlie Brown franchise in New York would make
Speaker 14: for a great story. So far hasn't been so great.
Speaker 14: We'll see how it plays out this year. But that's
Speaker 14: why I took the project on.
Speaker 2: How do you avoid preconceived opinions notions of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 14: It's not easy, but I was determined to go into
Speaker 14: this open minded, and I think some of his friends
Speaker 14: early on. I ended up talking to two hundred and
Speaker 14: fifty people, As Aaron said, I reached out to five
Speaker 14: hundred and half called me back, that's about right, and
Speaker 14: a lot of his friends, I think, early on, in
Speaker 14: close associates were concerned that I had an agenda that
Speaker 14: Frankly and one of his friends told me this that
Speaker 14: you're a media guy from New York, probably liberal, looking
Speaker 14: to destroy Aaron in this book and that couldn't be
Speaker 14: further from the truth. I had absolutely no agenda, what's
Speaker 14: so ever, and I wanted to be open minded about
Speaker 14: the vaccine, his stance on that and everything else, including
Speaker 14: the conspiracy theories, and so I think I warmed down
Speaker 14: over time, and that's the reason that he agreed to
Speaker 14: sit down with me at his home in Malibu.
Speaker 2: Unauthorized versus authorized. How different would this book be if
Speaker 2: it was authorized?
Speaker 14: Well, when it's authorized, Dan, obviously it's that subject's truth
Speaker 14: as opposed to the truth or the pure truth. And
Speaker 14: I think that unauthorized A lot of people readers think
Speaker 14: it's a dirty word, like it suggests a trash book.
Speaker 14: It's really a badge of honor. I think it's closer
Speaker 14: to a pure form of journalism, and the ideal is
Speaker 14: unauthorized biography with the subject's cooperation. With Aaron, I didn't
Speaker 14: get full cooperation. That would have required fifteen to twenty hours.
Speaker 14: I got two hours with him at the end of
Speaker 14: the process to check all of my facts, and he did.
Speaker 14: He was very candid and thoughtful and engaging at his
Speaker 14: home on the Pacific. It was a great backyard setting
Speaker 14: for those two hours. But he made the book better,
Speaker 14: and I very much appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure this out because is he leading
Speaker 2: us to believe that he wants to be left alone
Speaker 2: do his own thing, but then still enjoys the spotlight.
Speaker 14: I think he wants to be talked about. I think
Speaker 14: he always has, and I think he leans into it now.
Speaker 14: Back in August of twenty one, those four words, yeah,
Speaker 14: I've been immunized. That turned him into a villain. Before then,
Speaker 14: he was considered one of the more socially aware athletes
Speaker 14: and sports. He was celebrated by the same journalists who
Speaker 14: then turned on him after the truth came out about
Speaker 14: his unvaccinated status.
Speaker 8: And I think after that he decided to really.
Speaker 14: Dig in and if the media wanted to go to
Speaker 14: war with him, he would be a willing participant in
Speaker 14: that war. But I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 14: he likes creating news cycles. He can do it just
Speaker 14: rolling out of bed. I've rarely seen an athlete who
Speaker 14: could command the the way he can. It's amazing that
Speaker 14: here we have a Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes going
Speaker 14: for a three peat and Aaron Rodgers who hasn't been
Speaker 14: to the Super Bowl in a long time is still
Speaker 14: by far the most talked about person in the league,
Speaker 14: and that's really a major reason why I decided to.
Speaker 8: Do this book.
Speaker 2: Does he care what the public things thinks?
Speaker 8: He's humans, so he cares.
Speaker 14: He does, and he's admitted to me, at least in
Speaker 14: one answer, that it does hurt when he gets criticized.
Speaker 8: But he's a fearless public speaker.
Speaker 14: I do, on a certain level give him a lot
Speaker 14: of credit for that, because I'm not and I think
Speaker 14: most people aren't, and he's willing to sometimes unfortunately defend
Speaker 14: indefensible positions on things. But yeah, I think the criticism
Speaker 14: has hurt him, and I think he was hurt after
Speaker 14: those four words. Yeah, I've been immunized when he felt
Speaker 14: that he had some media allies who weren't there for him.
Speaker 14: He thought he would get some support and some of
Speaker 14: those allies would rush to his side, and that did
Speaker 14: not happen. So Yeah, he bleeds too, and I think
Speaker 14: that he tries to do a good job of not
Speaker 14: showing that, but it's there.
Speaker 7: He is.
Speaker 2: Ian O'Connor. The book is Out of the Darkness, The
Speaker 2: Mystery of Aaron Rodgers. Any similarities with other people you've
Speaker 2: profiled with coach k Bill Belichick, Derek Cheeter, Arnold Palmer,
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholas.
Speaker 8: Good question, Dan.
Speaker 14: I think the one similarity is, and that's why I
Speaker 14: was surprised he admitted to me he made a mistake
Speaker 14: with his COVID stance back in twenty twenty one, is
Speaker 14: that they don't admit mistakes, these greats coaches and athletes.
Speaker 8: They don't admit weakness and faults and errors, and they
Speaker 8: never say I'm sorry.
Speaker 14: And I've come to believe the reason is because they
Speaker 14: fear that weakness will follow them into the competitive arena
Speaker 14: and compromise their chances of winning and winning at a
Speaker 14: big time level and becoming an all time great. And
Speaker 14: I think, really, when Aaron admitted to me he made
Speaker 14: a mistake and wishes he had a mulligan on his
Speaker 14: not his stance because he's still anti vaccine, but just
Speaker 14: the way he did it and didn't tell his truth
Speaker 14: at the time, which was he was allergic to an
Speaker 14: ingredient a Pfizer and Maderna and concerned about Johnson and
Speaker 14: Johnson's side effects.
Speaker 8: Said why didn't you just say that? And he says, yeah,
Speaker 8: I should have said it. It was a mistake.
Speaker 14: But when you admit fault guys like Aaron Rodgers, coach,
Speaker 14: k Derrek, Cheeter, Belichick, when's the last time you heard
Speaker 14: any of them say I'm sorry about anything? And I
Speaker 14: really think it comes down to they think it will
Speaker 14: hurt them in competition, and that's why they don't do it.
Speaker 2: If you gave Rogers a due over a mulligan of
Speaker 2: going to the Jets or the Jets bringing Aaron Rodgers in,
Speaker 2: does anybody have a different opinion on that either side.
Speaker 8: No, I think Aaron would still do it. I think
Speaker 8: the Jets would still do it.
Speaker 14: Of course after this season, if they have a losing
Speaker 14: season or he's hurt again, I think the answer would
Speaker 14: be different. But Aaron was no longer wanted Green Bay.
Speaker 14: He knew that effectively that was a firing. Even though
Speaker 14: he pushed for the trade. He saw this great opportunity
Speaker 14: Dan in New York to if he wins a ring
Speaker 14: for a franchise in the big city that has not
Speaker 14: been to the Super Bowl since January sixty nine, that's
Speaker 14: going to feel like three rings and it's going to
Speaker 14: be Messia in ninety four for the Rangers on steroids
Speaker 14: and I think looking at Brady with seven rings and
Speaker 14: Aaron with one, he can't close that gap. But if
Speaker 14: he wins the big one for the Jets, it's going
Speaker 14: to feel like he really did close that gap.
Speaker 8: And I think he saw that as a great opportunity,
Speaker 8: and I agree with him.
Speaker 2: I wonder about his career how he've views it because
Speaker 2: he's often referred to as the most talented quarterback or
Speaker 2: maybe the one or two most talented quarterbacks to ever
Speaker 2: played the game, but he has won Super Bowl. Has
Speaker 2: it been a disappointment to him in what he's accomplished,
Speaker 2: even though he's been League MVP quite a few times,
Speaker 2: and I think the.
Speaker 14: League MVPs helps a little bit, and he did win
Speaker 14: more of those than Tom Brady, but he that's not
Speaker 14: what people count. They count the rings and he's down
Speaker 14: six to the guy he will always be compared against,
Speaker 14: and that hurts. But he didn't have Belichick, arguably the
Speaker 14: greatest coach of all time. He didn't have Josh McDaniels,
Speaker 14: the best offensive coordinator in the league, and he didn't
Speaker 14: have that Patriot Way support system.
Speaker 8: There are people who believe.
Speaker 14: That Aaron would have won three, four, five, maybe six
Speaker 14: rings with the Patriots in the same situation, Brady was
Speaker 14: in special teams and defense and coaching were factors in
Speaker 14: some of those bitter playoff defeats. If you look at
Speaker 14: particularly the period Dan from twenty thirteen through sixteen, those
Speaker 14: four seasons of lost postseason opportunities, Aaron made big, sometimes magical,
Speaker 14: sudden death plays in each of those seasons, and there's
Speaker 14: nothing but failure in the box scores. So I do
Speaker 14: think his eleven to ten postseason record can be a
Speaker 14: little misleading. But at the end of the day, he's
Speaker 14: barely over five hundred in the playoffs and he can't
Speaker 14: really run.
Speaker 8: Away from that.
Speaker 2: You let me go back to you saying that he
Speaker 2: got fired by the Packers. Did he get himself fired?
Speaker 2: Like it's one thing that you know the franchise is
Speaker 2: going to turn on you, but it felt like they
Speaker 2: were at a point of no return that they had
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 8: Well he ended up.
Speaker 14: It was a very similar situation to Brett farre ironically enough,
Speaker 14: and Aaron was on the good side of that one
Speaker 14: and now on the bad side of the franchise wanting
Speaker 14: to turn it over to Jordan Love. And I think
Speaker 14: that they always had later in his career the upside
Speaker 14: and the downside of employing Aaron Rodgers, but the downside
Speaker 14: got greater in that you had him. He wanted more personnel, say,
Speaker 14: and influencing decisions, and that's not really the pack away.
Speaker 14: I think they gave him a little bit more late
Speaker 14: in his career, but not enough. And then suddenly he's
Speaker 14: not making the playoffs. That last year he looked like
Speaker 14: a diminished player misses the playoffs. So we're not getting
Speaker 14: the upside when Aaron's healthy where we're getting in the
Speaker 14: play basically every year.
Speaker 8: So they wanted to move on.
Speaker 14: He knew that, and again with the Jets, it was
Speaker 14: a great opportunity, Hey, go to the big city. I'm
Speaker 14: coming from the smallest market in the NFL. Let me
Speaker 14: go to the biggest and try to pull off something
Speaker 14: that would be pretty iconic. And so it was both
Speaker 14: parties knew they had to have this divorce. But deep
Speaker 14: down he's hurt by that, and people close to him
Speaker 14: told me that. And so ideally, if he could reach
Speaker 14: the Super Bowl, I think the team he would want
Speaker 14: to face and beat is the Green Bay Packers for
Speaker 14: obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: What was the one question that you wanted an answer to.
Speaker 14: Family estrangement, and he did address some of that on
Speaker 14: the record, and I appreciated that because he didn't know
Speaker 14: me an answer to that question. But it's gone on
Speaker 14: now for nearly ten years, and it's a complicated issue.
Speaker 14: There's not one defined moment, dan or issue that separated
Speaker 14: this family. But I was happy that he agreed to
Speaker 14: address that and also addressed that he his father told
Speaker 14: me that they had a hug last year at Lake
Speaker 14: Tahoe at the celebrity golf tournament, and Aaron came over
Speaker 14: in the middle of his Saturday round, saw his father
Speaker 14: in the crowd and gave him a hug and said
Speaker 14: I love you, and Ed Rodgers was crying, and it.
Speaker 8: Was an emotional moment.
Speaker 14: It only lasted about thirty seconds, but it meant something
Speaker 14: to both men. Aaron wanted to be his father. His
Speaker 14: father was his idol when he was growing up. And
Speaker 14: so Aaron told me for the book, and this is
Speaker 14: the first time he's ever said this publicly. He wants
Speaker 14: to have a relationship with a family member, this being
Speaker 14: his father, and so hopefully that happens. And I think
Speaker 14: the road to family reconciliation will run through Ed Rodgers,
Speaker 14: and let's hope it happens sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: If you had to predict what is Aaron Rodgers doing
Speaker 2: after he's done playing, I think.
Speaker 8: He'll be one of the best analysts in a network booth.
Speaker 14: Ever, and I know he says he doesn't really have
Speaker 14: interest in that, but when he's talking football, there's nobody
Speaker 14: like him. I think he's even better at it, or
Speaker 14: would be than Brady and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 8: He's a computer.
Speaker 14: When he's talking football, it's mesmerizing and I think he
Speaker 14: would be unbelievable at it. And I don't see another
Speaker 14: path for him. I don't think politics is the answer.
Speaker 14: I think he'll stay in football and that seems to
Speaker 14: be the natural second career for him.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Ian, Good luck with the book.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Hey, damn my pleasure.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Ian O'Connor. Out of the Darkness with Aaron Rodgers, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot in there now. He did say, could
Speaker 2: you see him being an analyst? And I didn't think
Speaker 2: of that, But then he would be a good analyst.
Speaker 2: I just don't know. Is it something that would excite him.
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's like Peyton Manning wanted more
Speaker 2: than just being an analyst. Tom Brady I thought would
Speaker 2: want more than just being an analyst. But he is
Speaker 2: getting paid an exorbitant amount of money. I get that.
Speaker 2: I thought that that would be ownership stuff. I know
Speaker 2: he's involved with the Raiders. Same thing with Peyton. I
Speaker 2: just feels like, you guys, I mean, Paul, do you
Speaker 2: think Aaron Rodgers analyst is something that would satisfy someone
Speaker 2: like that who's so curious? And it almost feels like
Speaker 2: I got to dumb myself down to talk football America.
Speaker 3: I've always found that Aaron Rodgers is a bit of
Speaker 3: a no at all, and that's not necessarily an insult.
Speaker 3: I'm actually complimenting his football knowledge. When you talk football,
Speaker 3: he gets really into it. I think he needs an
Speaker 3: outlet for that. I think he's one of those guys
Speaker 3: who will do the games and then you won't see
Speaker 3: him for seven months. I don't I can't see him
Speaker 3: as a year round type media person, but a guy
Speaker 3: who's going to do games and you won't.
Speaker 2: He'll be gone, all right, We'll take a break when
Speaker 2: we come back. Jim Cantore from the Weather Channel. When
Speaker 2: he shows up it's time to leave. We're going to
Speaker 2: have him tell you the manliest state weather wise, and
Speaker 2: also if we were going to be a rapper in
Speaker 2: the state of Maine, what would our rap All of
Speaker 2: that coming up, and then Noah Lyles, the gold medal winner,
Speaker 2: will join us top of the hour. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: I was just walking around here in the main cave
Speaker 2: and I went and got my axe. That seat and
Speaker 2: bought me when I first decided that I was going
Speaker 2: to build something in Maine, I went out and got
Speaker 2: an axe thanks to Seaton. So, uh, there's a protective no,
Speaker 2: no protective covering there, Paully. That's what you do. You
Speaker 2: have a protective covering there and then that goes right
Speaker 2: there and then if you're walking around, if you happen
Speaker 2: to fall, then you're protected there. That's what we do,
Speaker 2: us maners. We know how to handle equipment. Yes, ba,
Speaker 2: I think I want to send you a cease and
Speaker 2: tosist with this axe. Why, first of all, it's too
Speaker 2: small to chop wood that thing.
Speaker 5: Wait too, it's more of a hatchet really it Well, okay,
Speaker 5: you have a technu you can maybe you know that
Speaker 5: might be more for kindling than than for like proper. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm doing during the commercial breaks, I'm
Speaker 5: putting together a log.
Speaker 7: You know, cabin.
Speaker 2: You're building a log cabin in the no no, no,
Speaker 2: no no. Where you stack your logs? Where? So I've
Speaker 2: got the what's that called firewood log racking team log rack?
Speaker 2: Yeah this sounds this is not helping. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: you know, once I get terminology down, I am going
Speaker 2: to be awesome firewood Yeah yeah, yeah, uh you know.
Speaker 2: Speaking of tough, Jim Cantorea the Weather Channel. He travels
Speaker 2: all over and usually going to places that aren't very
Speaker 2: nice and joining us on short notice so he can
Speaker 2: give us his thoughts on the manliest states weather wise
Speaker 2: that you've ever been to. Jim, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: The manliest state Okay, yeah, like horseh's weather, Like you've
Speaker 2: got to be a man to live here. What would
Speaker 2: be your top dude?
Speaker 7: Honestly, the worst.
Speaker 15: The worst weather is Chicago, you know, dealing with the
Speaker 15: wind off the lake because I was out doing live
Speaker 15: shots one time. And you know, I didn't even notice
Speaker 15: until I walked back into the truck. I'm like, guys,
Speaker 15: look at my no I'm looking in this little mirror.
Speaker 7: Look at my nose. It's white.
Speaker 15: I got frostbite on my nose. I didn't even realize
Speaker 15: that my cheeks were starting to turn white. So yeah,
Speaker 15: Chicago's got to be Uh, that's gotta get that's got
Speaker 15: to get the wind in Okay.
Speaker 2: What about rural areas, Oh.
Speaker 15: My god, the outer banks in North Carolina. I mean,
Speaker 15: they want to they want to hang me. They hate
Speaker 15: it when I come out there to cover hurricane because
Speaker 15: I am.
Speaker 2: But it's not your fault here. You didn't ran the hurricane,
Speaker 2: Dan tell them that.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 15: By the way, when you when you were wheeling that
Speaker 15: axe earlier, I thought if they were going to do
Speaker 15: a remake for Fargo, I think you got it.
Speaker 7: I think you're a shoe in just sewing out.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Fargo, where like the coldest temperatures where
Speaker 2: you just got it? Because I'm in Maine and obviously
Speaker 2: you know I'm manly, but uh, I.
Speaker 15: Mean it's really the Northeast. There's just something about that
Speaker 15: biting cold after a storm. I mean one time we
Speaker 15: were in Massachusetts in March for a thirty five degree
Speaker 15: snowstorm and it was just like such a wet, gloppy
Speaker 15: snow and it went inside all of my clothing. It
Speaker 15: was just like, I am like hypothermic right now, I
Speaker 15: am absolutely I have to stop doing shots, so I'm
Speaker 15: gonna freeze it out.
Speaker 2: So that was that was right, you get Well, Dakota's
Speaker 2: got to be up there.
Speaker 7: What's that?
Speaker 2: North Dakota's got to be up North Dakota's got to
Speaker 2: be up north. You know what.
Speaker 15: For the record, that's the only place I have not
Speaker 15: been for the Weather Channel to do coverage. I've done
Speaker 15: every other stake, every other stake except North Dakota. So
Speaker 15: I gotta get that before I before I leave this. Okay,
Speaker 15: well you have Montana, ye, Minnesota, Wyoming did a you
Speaker 15: know thing. It's a Yellowstone Minnesota. Minneapolis always cover snowstorms
Speaker 15: up there.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's go around the room. If who thinks
Speaker 2: Jim Cantore has ever been struck by lightning? Polly, I'll
Speaker 2: go to you. I know cantorya the Weather Channel.
Speaker 3: I know he wants to would be great for the brand,
Speaker 3: especially live TV I don't think he has.
Speaker 2: Okay, Todd, has Cantori been struck by lightning? I think
Speaker 2: he's been mildly electrocuted by lightning. Yes, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no?
Speaker 13: I think.
Speaker 2: Hold on, Jim, hold on? Are you gonna say no? Marvin, No,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no. Jim your answer.
Speaker 7: If I have, I don't know it, honest to God.
Speaker 15: I mean, I've been in thunder snow six different times
Speaker 15: with many different episodes of it, and that is something
Speaker 15: you actually can get struck during. Speaking of Maine, the
Speaker 15: only fatality that we have on record, Dan is a
Speaker 15: young man in Maine. He was out sledding and he
Speaker 15: got thundersnow in the middle of a winter storm. So
Speaker 15: you can't actually get struck by it. But I don't
Speaker 15: think that it's happened to me to the best of
Speaker 15: my knowledge.
Speaker 2: Delta's Delaware State is traveling to Hawaii and they're talking
Speaker 2: about maybe.
Speaker 7: They're trying to problems right, is.
Speaker 2: There a hurricane on the way, typhoons or what kind
Speaker 2: of storm is headed towards Hawaii? Have you checked your
Speaker 2: live local late breaking doler Doppler super Dooppler radar.
Speaker 7: Dan you know, I don't spend a lot of the
Speaker 7: time on the Pacific stuff, but I'll do this for you. Okay,
Speaker 7: now we do.
Speaker 15: We've been on this for the last days. First of all,
Speaker 15: there's the area right there that we're looking at.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's it. Here's Gilma behind that, and see another
Speaker 7: invest behind that. Okay. So here's what it looks like
Speaker 7: from a satellite perspective.
Speaker 15: So there's Hawaii, you see it. Yeah, this this area
Speaker 15: that we're watching, there's actually two systems here that are
Speaker 15: going to come together, and this is what they could
Speaker 15: look like as they come towards whise. This is what
Speaker 15: they call a GFS model. Hopefully this is pointed right
Speaker 15: at it. So here's what it looks. Let's get together
Speaker 15: maybe tomorrow, and then it's working its way to the
Speaker 15: west and then boom, here we are twelve Sundays. That
Speaker 15: Sunday morning. Let's just go back six hours. So this
Speaker 15: is about game time. It's pretty far away. Some Awahuo's
Speaker 15: right there. That's where the game is going to be
Speaker 15: played and where I have the plus mark. So it's
Speaker 15: pretty far away.
Speaker 7: There'll be some wind.
Speaker 15: I think there'll be some wind here, But right now,
Speaker 15: you know, the thing's got to come together, and it's
Speaker 15: got to develop, and if it doesn't develop, it's not
Speaker 15: going to be much at all. Listen, here's the deal.
Speaker 15: Whether's the great equalizer They need to play this game.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jim. Jim Cantori meteorologists. Weather Channel will follow
Speaker 2: him up with who you would expect, Noel Lyles, the
Speaker 2: fastest man in the world.