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Speaker 1: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 1: are rolling through what I would call the Unity edition

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Speaker 1: of the Republican Convention. Tomorrow, Trump will speak, But last

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Speaker 1: night many of you said it wouldn't happen. Candidly, I

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Speaker 1: have not. I don't think Buck has either. When we said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we know it's kind of nasty right now, we understand

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Speaker 1: if you are a Nicky Haley supporter or you are

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis supporter, there are raw feelings. I believe we

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Speaker 1: got this one right. Were we got to the convention,

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Speaker 1: everybody would be coming together, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: the strongest unity that the Republican Party has seen in

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Speaker 1: the Trump era by far. Twenty sixteen, everybody he remembers.

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, who spoke last night, did not officially endorse

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Speaker 1: Trump after that nasty primary battle.

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Speaker 2: And when I was covering that RNC, I said Ted

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Speaker 2: will eventually and should have, and I think now he

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Speaker 1: And twenty twenty obviously not really a traditional convention. It

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Speaker 1: was a complete mess because of everything associated with COVID.

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Speaker 1: But last night, I want to play this audio.

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Speaker 3: Obvious.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of time to take calls

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Speaker 1: today because let me just tell you, oh boy, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the rundown. We are in radio row in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: We're meeting a ton of you all over the city,

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Speaker 1: all over the country, people up here who are listeners.

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Speaker 1: But we particularly love the Milwaukee crew who are volunteering,

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Speaker 1: who are helping on with us year in about a

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Speaker 1: half hour, Congresswoman Yes, Dean Kin formerly Superman Superman Stephn Miller,

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Speaker 1: our buddy who probably will not only tell you how

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Speaker 1: the campaign's going, but give you nineteen eighties and nineties

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Speaker 1: movie suggestions.

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Speaker 3: The left calls him a super villain, but that is untrue.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Dave McCormick, who is running for Senate in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: and was there on the stage preparing to be introduced

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Speaker 1: and to speak when Trump was shot. That story from him,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine will be very compelling. Senator Bill Haggerty

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Speaker 1: the PayPal Mafia members, really good buddies with Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: twitter X, announcing amid all the other news that they

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Speaker 1: are leaving California and moving to Texas yesterday afternoon, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about all of the big tech money that is

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Speaker 1: now rolled are supporting Trump and Senator Dan Sullivan from Alaska.

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Speaker 1: That is just what is scheduled. It is also possible

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Speaker 1: if you were listening yesterday, Lee Greenwood happens to be

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Speaker 1: walking by and we bring him up to talk about

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the epicentery. Oh, who may hop

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Speaker 1: on the show. We are enjoying it. We hope you

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Speaker 1: are enjoying it as well. But the DeSantis and Nicki

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Speaker 1: Haley people who many of whom understandably we think Ron

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Speaker 1: DeSantis best governor in the country. Nicki Haley obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot of people trying to do whatever they thought was

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Speaker 1: necessary to beat Biden. I want to play you the

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Speaker 1: full throated endorsement of each of those individuals. So hopefully

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Speaker 1: all of you that are super active online and arguing

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go vote, I'm not going to show up.

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Speaker 1: I hope that all of you have given up on

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Speaker 1: those emotional screams into the void that feels like many

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Speaker 3: Let's start just some just some It was a handful,

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Speaker 3: but they were They.

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Speaker 1: Were very loud on and they were whining all the time.

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Speaker 1: We even took some calls. Do you remember from people

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Speaker 1: who said I refused. I would wonder if any of

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Speaker 1: those people still exist. I hope that they do not,

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Speaker 1: but it certainly doesn't exist in the Republican Party itself.

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Speaker 1: Let's first listen to Nicky Hayley give her complete and

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Speaker 1: total endorsement to Donald Trump last night. Here's what it

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Speaker 4: I'll start by making one thing perfectly clear, Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: has my strong endorsement period.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Look, we've seen a move toward unity behind Trump that

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Speaker 2: even exceeded what we had seen from multiple sham indictments

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Speaker 2: used as the law fair campaign against Trump because of

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Speaker 3: This is Trump's party. Yeah, there's no there's.

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Speaker 2: No voice within the Republican Party that has the support

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Speaker 2: couldn't wish for anything better politically at a national convention.

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Speaker 2: So even the New York Times is one of the

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Speaker 2: Now we can argue whether it was ever dysfunctional, but

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Speaker 2: the point is there are a lot of there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of regime media here. Yes, you know, I had

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Speaker 2: some French dudes coming up from me yesterday from French.

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Speaker 1: They're like, during the show, I was trying to interview, interview.

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Speaker 2: The most fantastic American we've ever seen, would you like

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Speaker 2: to explain all of zippolitics to us?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, Monsieur Francois, give me a minute.

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Speaker 1: And of course did you actually do the French media?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the guys to interview. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you could hear it, tried to interview your show while

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Speaker 3: Probably wi He had like a little beret and a baget.

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Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. They never beret.

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Speaker 2: But we've there's a lot of media from all over

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Speaker 2: the world here, and there are a lot of regime media.

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Speaker 2: There's Reuter's Ap, New York Times, I see, and everybody

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Speaker 2: right yep. Point is, nobody who is here would make

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Speaker 2: the case that this isn't an incredibly unified GOP. And

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Speaker 2: I would argue even those for whom it is painful

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Speaker 2: to say it. Clay admit that right now the GOP

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Speaker 2: with the Nikki Haley endorsement of Trump, we're about to

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Speaker 2: get the Rod DeSantis endorsement of Trump. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if there's ever been a more unified GOP. You would

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Speaker 2: have to go back to Post nine to eleven Bush

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Speaker 2: this is the most unified GOP in living memory.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think we should also give credit to

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Speaker 1: the Trump team, which has also done a good job

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Speaker 5: I am alarmed that the current president of the United

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Speaker 5: States lacks the capability to discharge the duties of his office.

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Speaker 5: Our enemies do not confine their designs to between ten

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Speaker 1: We need.

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Speaker 5: We need a commander in chief who can lead twenty

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Speaker 5: four hours a day and seven days a week. America

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Speaker 5: cannot afford four more years of a weekend at Bernie's presidency.

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Speaker 1: Weekend that Bernie's presidency, by the way, Bernie's too. But

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Speaker 1: that is something that analogy is something we've used on

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Speaker 1: that film Antis for Nicki Haley, for everyone in the

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Speaker 3: Yes, and so.

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Speaker 2: We told you this would happen. It did happen, and

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Speaker 2: so no one owes us stakes per se. But I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying this is one that we got right because

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Speaker 2: have Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna with us, so we're going

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Speaker 1: Encourage you to go check out the podcast and the

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Speaker 2: I mean, every conservative career like content creator that I

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Speaker 7: You know, a lot of these companies are are run

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Speaker 7: and the communists been winning for a long time, but

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Speaker 7: now I think the liberals are like, let's not say

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Speaker 7: the mainstream liberals, And I think, you know, that's the

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Speaker 7: city that you can still live in because at least

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Speaker 7: they'll be police, they'll be prosecution, there'll be some business development.

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Speaker 7: It's never going to be as good as Florida or Texas,

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Speaker 7: but it's going to be a lot better than having

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Speaker 7: it being run by commissars.

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Speaker 2: Do your Silicon Valley peers who haven't yet been red

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Speaker 2: pilled do they argue with you over, oh, no, san

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Speaker 2: Francisco's doing great or are they just aware and they

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Speaker 2: refuse to admit. Like one thing we dealt with on

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Speaker 2: COVID was even when it was clear. And this is

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Speaker 2: how Clan I actually met the first time, was over

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Speaker 2: the COVID issue. We're both saying what they're doing is crazy.

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Speaker 2: These things are wrong. They'd never admit that they were wrong,

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Speaker 2: because that would mean admitting that people like us were

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Speaker 2: right in Silicon Valley in San Francisco Bay Area. Are

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Speaker 2: Are they just refusing to admit that people who are

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Speaker 2: more to the right have been correct or do they

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Speaker 2: recognize that that city has been run into the ground?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 7: I think I think tech people generally are of the

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Speaker 7: liberal faction rather than the crazy communist faction, and so

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Speaker 7: there the recognition that San Francisco has kind of gone

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Speaker 7: off the rails is pretty widespread in tech.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when there's an editorial that said

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't call the cops when they're breaking into your

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Speaker 2: home to steal your bike or your or your a car,

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Speaker 2: just because that could be violence against people of color.

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Speaker 2: I remember, I think was in the San Francisco A Chronicle.

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Speaker 3: I saw that. So that's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, well, the whole state basically legalize shoplifting

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Speaker 7: under nine hundred and fifty dollars. But what happened is

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Speaker 7: they downgraded it from a filony to a misdemeanor. But

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Speaker 7: then all the DA's basically said, we're not prosecuting misdemeanors anymore.

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Speaker 3: So it's effectively decriminalized theft.

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Speaker 7: And of course you don't really know what nine or

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Speaker 7: fifty dollars looks like when someone walks out of your store,

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Speaker 7: so now they can steal two thousand and three thousand,

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Speaker 7: and no one knows what to do, so it just

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Speaker 7: it created a situation of just total lawlessness. But I

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Speaker 7: think the people in tech actually they're more on what

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Speaker 7: I would call like the liberal side, not the communist side.

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Speaker 7: And in fact, tech people are demonized in San Francisco.

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Speaker 7: There's like this hardcore they're like evil capitalists, right, yeah, basically,

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Speaker 7: and they even they actually are happy when they drive

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Speaker 7: a tech company out of San Francisco, like they just

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Speaker 1: X just announced yesterday he's moving to Texas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, I'm out of here with X. I'm

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Speaker 3: out of here with SpaceX.

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Speaker 7: I mean, these are huge losses for San Francisco and

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Speaker 7: you know, eventually these guys are gonna you know, they're

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Speaker 7: not They're gonna run out of money, but they don't

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Speaker 2: Clay, we got to send some of these communists chalk.

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Speaker 2: fantastic guest continues on we were talking Senate yesterday. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna be talking Senate every day because we hope Trump

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Speaker 2: is gonna win looking good. But if we don't have

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Speaker 2: control of the Senate. In the House, things get slowed

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Speaker 2: down a lot. And if you're picking a Senate seat,

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Speaker 2: that is absolutely critical. If you think it might be

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Speaker 2: the most critical, I think a lot of people be

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Speaker 2: with you would be this race in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Dave McCormick is with us now. He's a veteran.

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Speaker 2: He is a very successful businessman, understands economics. But Dave,

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Speaker 2: we have to have you start for us with you.

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Speaker 2: Were there in Butler, Pennsylvania. Right there, Yeah, right next

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Speaker 2: to the president, right in in the line of fire.

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Speaker 3: That is the truth. Tell us about it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, guys, thank thanks for having me. I met the

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Speaker 8: President backstage when he got there. He got to Butler,

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Speaker 8: he did some pictures with folks, and he said to me, Hey,

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Speaker 8: I want to have you come up on the stage.

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Speaker 8: I want to have you come talk this is you know,

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Speaker 8: I want to talk talk about your race. So when

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Speaker 8: he got out there, I was sitting on the ground

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Speaker 8: level right to the right of him in the first row,

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Speaker 8: and he got into the speech a couple of minutes

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Speaker 8: and he said, Hey, this Senate race is important. Dave McCormick,

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Speaker 8: I want you to come up, and he invited me

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Speaker 8: to come up to the stage to talk. And so

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Speaker 8: I started to go through the security and got through

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Speaker 8: the first layer and was headed up to the podium

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Speaker 8: and then he goes, wait, wait, I want to he's

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Speaker 8: sitting this in front of fifteen thousand people. I want

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Speaker 8: to finish this to border things. I want to do

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Speaker 8: this chart. I'll have you come back up later so

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Speaker 8: you can go sit down. And I went and sat down,

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Speaker 8: and then two minutes later the bullets started. So, I mean,

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Speaker 8: it was very possible. And the President said that after

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Speaker 8: the fact that I talked to him the other day.

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Speaker 8: He said, two minutes you you know, you would have

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Speaker 8: been night in the middle of it.

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Speaker 3: And uh.

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Speaker 8: And it was pretty clear to me as a as

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Speaker 8: a military officer that that this was gunfire. Pretty quick,

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Speaker 8: I couldn't tell it was one or two. I thought

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Speaker 8: there might be two shooters. And I saw the President

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Speaker 8: go down. I saw him grab his ear and go down,

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Speaker 8: and the Secret Service was on top of him almost immediately,

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Speaker 8: and there was somebody hit behind me. So I was

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Speaker 8: sort of seeing it on two sides. And then I

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Speaker 8: saw this amazing thing which I'll never forget, which is

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Speaker 8: the President standing up and this phalanx of guards, you know,

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Speaker 8: secret Service guys around him, and I see this fist

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Speaker 8: come pop out and this fist of defiance and h

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Speaker 8: and you know, courage. And I'll tell you, guys, I

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Speaker 8: think if one hundred people were in that situation, ninety

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Speaker 8: eight ninety nine are in the fetal position and they're

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Speaker 8: not getting back up, and I wouldn't I have said this.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't. I wouldn't blame them. I think you got

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Speaker 3: gunfire coming in, stayed out. I mean, we didn't know

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Speaker 3: if there's more shooters. We didn't know if the shooter

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Speaker 3: was dead. There was no way to know.

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Speaker 8: And the fact that he got up, I was absolutely

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Speaker 8: never forget that image. And then they moved and he

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Speaker 8: could see his face was bloody. And so two things

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Speaker 8: were happening for me at the same time. I guess

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Speaker 8: three things. One they were moving the president off the stage.

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Speaker 8: The gentleman behind me was twenty five feet behind me,

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Speaker 8: was hit badly, and people were trying to how.

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Speaker 1: Quickly were you aware of that?

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Speaker 8: By the way, about the sort of same time as

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Speaker 8: they were moving Trump off the stage, it became clear

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Speaker 8: somebody behind us was hit and then we were all

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Speaker 8: down because we didn't know if there was more shoe shooters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it was. It was quite a surreal moment. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you have a military background.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they allowed this twenty year old to

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Speaker 1: get up onto the top of that location that shed

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Speaker 1: basically and take a shot at Trump. How much of

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Speaker 1: a failure is it of the Secret Service? You mentioned

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Speaker 1: the guy behind you dead because of that failure. Is

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Speaker 1: there any way that the head of the Secret Service

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Speaker 1: should still have her job? And how in the war

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Speaker 1: world is that level of failure even possible? You were there,

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Speaker 1: Now that you've seen all that you experienced it, But

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Speaker 1: now that you've seen how it happened, what how is

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Speaker 1: that possible?

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Speaker 8: Honestly, it's gonna be something we're gonna have to study

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Speaker 8: at the great length. It is a failure of such magnitude,

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Speaker 8: it's it's unimaginable to me. You know, I worked earlier

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Speaker 8: with the President Bush and I traveled with him. I

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Speaker 8: know what the security looks like. The idea that the

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Speaker 8: the initial answer I heard was, well, that rooftop was

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Speaker 8: not in the envelope. I mean, it's the crazy thing

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Speaker 8: that that rooftop one hundred and thirty yards any any

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Speaker 8: Pennsylvania deer hunter with a with a high powered rifle

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Speaker 8: on a scope, which gonna is gonna make that shot? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: And so the fact that the President turned his head

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Speaker 8: just at that moment saved his life and saved us

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Speaker 8: from a national catastrophe. So it's impossible for you to

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Speaker 8: me imagine that failure. It's imp and you see here,

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Speaker 8: everything you hear makes it sounds worse. And it's impossible

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Speaker 8: for me to imagine the person in charge of the

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Speaker 8: organization that oversaw that failure should be in their position.

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Speaker 1: You worked in business, you also worked in military. Holding

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Speaker 1: people responsible for success or failure is a big part

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Speaker 1: of anyone in the military or business. Shouldn't Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: as a matter of just basic responsibility, have demanded a

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Speaker 1: resignation there because, by grace of God, is the only

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Speaker 1: reason Trump wasn't killed. They completely failed in that absolutely.

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Speaker 8: And listen, there's always going to be in any organization

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Speaker 8: things that happen that the leader has to be held

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Speaker 8: accountable for. The leader of the organization is responsible. But

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Speaker 8: in this particular case, the degree of failure changes the

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Speaker 8: course of history.

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Speaker 2: It's so incompetent as well that I have a hard

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Speaker 2: time trying to explain to people the level of incompetence

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Speaker 2: without disbelief. And I don't begrudge their disbelief, because no

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Speaker 2: one wants to think that this secret service slash law

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Speaker 2: enforcement working with them in this capacity could mess up

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Speaker 2: so blatantly we've been talking about this. This wasn't someone

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Speaker 2: taking a shot from a thousand yards out who had

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Speaker 2: real expertise, and you know that could be very dangerous too.

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Speaker 2: This was the most obvious place to take the most

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Speaker 2: obvious shot. And so it's stunning that there has been

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Speaker 2: no accountability yet. And I understand people not trusting the

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Speaker 2: FBI right now either on given what's going on with Trump.

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Speaker 8: Well, and we don't know there, I mean we it's

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Speaker 8: hard also to imagine and we'll find out more.

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Speaker 3: A twenty year old kid, yeah, cooked up this idea

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Speaker 3: and we almost know nothing about him still for the politics.

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Speaker 8: Here, and then orchestrated this entire thing without anybody else

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Speaker 1: Very making by the way that this story has come

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Speaker 1: out today too. Buck the guy had a range finder

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Speaker 1: and the Secret Service was aware that he was coming

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Speaker 1: in with a rangefinder. And I saw one of our friends,

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Speaker 1: Hemmingway said today that she had her like Molly, Molly

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Speaker 1: Hemingway got her. I saw her tweeting that her little

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Speaker 1: air mister was taken by the Secret Service. They wouldn't

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Speaker 1: allow it to be brought in the fact that this

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Speaker 1: was the arrange find. I mean, he's not on a

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Speaker 1: golf course. Like, why in the world would somebody be

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Speaker 2: Again, the political level of incompetence is so bad that

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Speaker 2: people are going to have a hard time accepting that

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Speaker 2: it was in competence. But I did want to ask,

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Speaker 2: because you're in this critical race and we only got

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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes with you, how's it looking right

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Speaker 2: now in Pennsylvania. What's the what's the dynamic out there?

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I feel great about it. Pennsyvany is

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Speaker 2: tough me. It is tough state because the stakes are

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Speaker 2: so high. But I think I'm gonna win this race.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna win this race largely because I said

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Speaker 2: this last night in my speech. This is a race

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Speaker 2: with a choice between strength and weakness. Strength and weakness

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Speaker 2: at the top of the ticket with President Trump and

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Speaker 2: President Biden. If you didn't think it was strength and

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Speaker 2: weakness before, watch that the Bay performance, and then watch

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Speaker 2: that performance on the stage when President Trump. This is

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Speaker 2: what is about at a time when advisaries around the

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Speaker 2: world are testing us, challenging us, our economies in deep trouble,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come campaign with you. I'm making a promise again.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get it officially. Now, we're going to

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Speaker 1: come to a penn State game, maybe that Ohio State game.

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Speaker 1: I got to look at your team. We're going to

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Speaker 1: We're going to have a fun event that we're going

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Speaker 3: Welcome back here to Clay and Buck live at the

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Speaker 3: r NZ on the floor of Media Row in the auditorium.

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Speaker 3: And it's a bird, it's a plane. It's Dean Kane. Yes,

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Speaker 3: here he is.

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Speaker 2: No never you're getting called superman good heavens worse? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Sir Jin Kane of a Superman on television fame and

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Speaker 2: also now an out conservative, which must be interesting. As

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Speaker 2: a former California we have a lot of things ask

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Speaker 2: you about. I know you're promoting your movie God is

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Speaker 2: Not Dead, the fifth in the series of that very

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Speaker 2: successful franchise. But you are a I'm a former New

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Speaker 2: Yorker now at Floridian. You are a former Californian now

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Speaker 2: at Nevadada.

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Speaker 3: How is that going for you? It's going very very well.

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Speaker 9: If you'd told me the first of all, I thought Vegas,

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Speaker 9: you know, living in Vegas would be insane, but I

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Speaker 9: live outside of Vegas and I don't go to the

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Speaker 9: strip like in Maleu. I didn't go to the you know,

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Speaker 9: Hollywood often, and that's both. So I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 9: Not to mention that the personal income tax rate is

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Speaker 9: zero versus fourteen point three in California for the upper earners,

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Speaker 9: which I am blessed to be an upper earner, so

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Speaker 9: that's a great thing. Life is so much more simple

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Speaker 9: for me in Nevada. I love it to death. I

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Speaker 9: fear they're gonna come and grab me and make me

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Speaker 9: come back. You know, I feel like Gavin Newsom himself.

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Speaker 9: Weren't they thinking about doing something with the claw mar On? Yes,

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Speaker 9: they were, of course they were, because they're hemorrhaging people.

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Speaker 9: And you know, all the Californians that are listening out

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Speaker 9: there that love you guys are probably stuck. They probably

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Speaker 9: can't afford to get out. They make it so expensive

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Speaker 9: to do anything, and you know, they have put a

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Speaker 9: match in tax on you if you if you sell

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Speaker 9: your I saw that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that stuff is crazy.

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Speaker 9: Fortunately, Malibu is not part of la so I got

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Speaker 9: out and that thing didn't affect me.

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Speaker 3: But I would have been ticked off.

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Speaker 1: So tell me this. I got a lot of friends

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Speaker 1: in LA because I Fox Sports is based there. I've

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time. I was talking with a

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Speaker 1: buddy recently and he said, Hollywood and l A in

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Speaker 1: general used to be the place for eccentrics, where different thinkers.

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Speaker 1: Your dad made the movie Young Guns, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I love, where.

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Speaker 3: It may my dad producing direct. I watched that VHS

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Speaker 3: so many.

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Speaker 2: Times, every line from that movie from my brothers and

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Speaker 2: I I did not realize this. I think it's actually

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Speaker 2: one of the most underrated westerns because it's not part

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Speaker 2: of that great Clint Eastwood spaghetti western exactly.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm sorry Young Guns.

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Speaker 1: Too as well.

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Speaker 3: He did not like.

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Speaker 1: Young Guns. Is you used to have a wide variety

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Speaker 1: of opinions and worldviews welcomed and that led to great

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Speaker 1: creative course. When did you start to notice it changing

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Speaker 1: and turning into a one party state? As a guy

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Speaker 1: who grew up out there.

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Speaker 9: You know, it was a subtle It's the change always

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Speaker 9: comes very subtly, and I would I would hear that

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Speaker 9: going on. And you know, when you when you first

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Speaker 9: become you know, a television star, back in the day anyway,

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Speaker 9: and probably still the same now as you get a publicist,

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Speaker 9: and your publicist like you have to have a charity

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Speaker 9: that you support and you have to have and I

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Speaker 9: was like, look, I'm twenty five.

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Speaker 3: You know. My charity was pay my rent. And I

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Speaker 3: was like, what do I have to support things? Look?

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Speaker 3: Can that happen organically? Please? You know? But no, they

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Speaker 3: were like, they break it down for you.

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Speaker 9: So I think I just I guess maybe it was

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Speaker 9: me getting older when I had a kid. I mean,

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Speaker 9: when I had a kid, everything the whole world changed

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Speaker 9: for me because suddenly I wasn't the most important thing

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Speaker 9: in the world. And I changed everything. But I changed

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Speaker 9: the movies, I did, the TV shows, I did. Everything changed,

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Speaker 9: and I became a father. As the reason I stopped

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Speaker 9: doing a series is because I wanted to be a dad,

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Speaker 9: so I might my values were changing at the same

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Speaker 9: time that these things were sort of sneaking in there.

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Speaker 9: And I you know, obviously COVID, we you know, it

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Speaker 9: was a huge part of it, but it was happening

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Speaker 9: before COVID.

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Speaker 3: It's been happening for a long time.

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Speaker 9: And I realized that, I, you know, when it started

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Speaker 9: the anti police sort of movement started going everything, I'm

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Speaker 9: a deputy, I'm a sworn deputy sheriff with with your

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Speaker 9: last guest, I serve in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: I served for him. Oh that's fantastic, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm a fully sworn a deputy sheriff in

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Speaker 9: in Frederick County, Virginia. I'm I'm a reserve police officer

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Speaker 9: in Pocatello. I don't these are the values that I

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Speaker 9: felt were right. So when people did the opposite and

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Speaker 9: they started going to you know, anti police, writer can

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Speaker 9: defund the police, I said, you know what I spoke

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Speaker 9: up against that, They're like, well, you speak up again,

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Speaker 9: so what is that? I said, all right, then I'll

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Speaker 9: join and I have and I've been doing that. So

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Speaker 9: that's just sort of built in my character. But I've

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Speaker 9: watched it happen. I mean, it's it's accelerating now, like crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: But but I think there's been a backlash and the

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Speaker 9: pendulum is swinging back.

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Speaker 3: You know, go woke, go broke.

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Speaker 9: Is look at the shows and things were put you know,

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Speaker 9: Hollywood's putting out it's just not you know, that Star

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Speaker 9: Wars thing isn't doing so well right now, uh, and

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Speaker 9: that thing is just getting eviscerated.

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Speaker 3: I don't even want to watch it, but.

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Speaker 2: This is this is what's happening all over the place.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering, how tell everybody a little bit about

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Speaker 2: the film, because we've only got you for about another minute. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I was I was gonna ask you something else about politics,

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Speaker 2: but actually I.

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Speaker 3: Was talking about see the God said. That is the

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Speaker 3: fifth and the franchise.

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Speaker 9: The first, first one, God's Not Dead, was ten years ago,

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Speaker 9: and I played a bad guy in that one, a

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Speaker 9: guy who didn't have any redemptive qualities, but much like myself, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, a god.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well he wasn't a communist, he was a capitalist,

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Speaker 9: and then some really okay, and then some but he

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Speaker 9: is you know. His fiance tells him, you know, I

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Speaker 9: got cancer, and he's like, if you can work that out,

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Speaker 9: then you can come back, you know, But that's not

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Speaker 9: my problem to deal with.

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Speaker 3: He's that kind of a guy. But then they've done

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Speaker 3: four other or.

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Speaker 9: Three other professor of right, he doesn't survive it anyway,

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Speaker 9: spoiler alert, But my my character.

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Speaker 3: Comes back in this fifth one.

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Speaker 9: It's called God's Not Dead in God We Trust and

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Speaker 9: and it's it's about a pastor who ends up having

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Speaker 9: to run for a congressional seat. And then it's the

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Speaker 9: question about, you know, uh, the separation of church and state,

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Speaker 9: and where does God belong in in in politics and

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Speaker 9: in our lives.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're they're pushing God.

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Speaker 9: I mean, God's not mentioned in the Constitution at all,

873
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Speaker 9: but he is mentioned in and and the Declaration of Independence,

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Speaker 9: the Pledge of Allegiance on your money and God we trust,

875
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Speaker 9: and the founders were they believed in God, and it

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Speaker 9: was a big part of it. And so the question

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Speaker 9: is how much this and I believe with what President's

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Speaker 9: gonna tru Trump's gonna say tomorrow night that you know,

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Speaker 9: God had a hand and turning his head.

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Speaker 1: And to finish the question, you've done a lot of

881
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Speaker 1: Hollywood shows. How cinematic and unbelievable was Trump's reaction to

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Speaker 1: surviving the assassination attempt From an actor or perspective, we

883
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Speaker 1: talked about it felt like a Hollywood movie.

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Speaker 9: If you wrote that, they'd be like, that's too unbelievable,

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Speaker 9: you know, And and so I can't even put it

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Speaker 9: into words. That's one of the most powerful things I've

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Speaker 9: ever seen and it speaks to his character and I

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Speaker 9: you know, look, I'm a I'm a police officer. I've

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Speaker 9: been with our military all over the place. People get

890
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Speaker 9: shot or shot at, they react very differently. It's like

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Speaker 9: I was a professional football player before. You know, you

892
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Speaker 9: get players, you know, great practice, game time stars, and yeah,

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Speaker 9: something happens to him and other people just rise up.

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Speaker 3: President Trump rose up.

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Speaker 9: It was one of the most amazing things I've seen

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Speaker 9: in that image of him with his hand up, the

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Speaker 9: flag upside down behind him and blood trickling down his face,

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Speaker 9: and that face that he made the fight.

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Speaker 3: It was a seminal moment.