1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: If you want to get the fans involved and see 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: what's really going on in these locker rooms, you had 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: to have been in. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: That twenty twenty. 5 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Three Chicago White Sox locker room. 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 3: All right, we've got Clint Fraser, former big leaguer, joining 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: us right now on FT. I'll let Kratz do a 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: little more on the intro. Go ahead, Crats. 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 4: Lightning in the thunder thunder? I mean, did you did 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 4: you bring all those size nine shoes out so that 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 4: we could see them too in your background? 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Is that? 13 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 4: What is that what you got out there? 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: I went emptied the bank account, bought every shoe I 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: saw in the store and just put them on the shelves, 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: just just the case. 17 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: Man, one moment, you get one chance, so might as well. 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 4: Uh flexo, man, you're you're done playing. You're officially done 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 4: playing now. Did you quit or did you retire? 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: I think it was a combination of both. Uh. You know, 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: no one called the phone the hit stopped coming. 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: I remember Brian Cashman told me one time, hey man, 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: you if you get a lot of hits, you have 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: a lot of friends. And started looking around and there 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of friends. 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: That's a good way to put it. Okay, So first off, 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: when you look back at your big league career, what 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: stands out? What are some of your best memories and 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: some things maybe that you wish that you could have 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: done differently. 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think overall, like obviously, you know, getting 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: drafted was obviously a big thing that I was trying 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: to accomplish at a young age. So to just get 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: that opportunity, you know, I think I had expectations that 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: were a little bit higher than what I achieved, but 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: things happened along the way. I got opportunities, and you know, 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: I took the most of them as I could. And 38 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I had a crazy first week 39 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: of my big leagues. I think that's the highlight of 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: my career, which is kind of funny if you think 41 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: about it, But I mean I came in. I think 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: I homered and doubled in my first game. I hit 43 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: a walk off in the first week on the guy 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: that closed the All Star Game, Craig Cannabel. So for me, 45 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: it was a cool first week. You know what came 46 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: after that was ups and downs. 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: All right. 48 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you finished your big league career 49 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: with less home runs than me. So I pretty much 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: make sure I have to make sure everybody knows that 51 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: I just looked it up. So there's that. But we 52 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: were just talking about a guy named Dalton Rushing who 53 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: just got called up to be a backup. He was 54 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: a big time prospect. Do you feel like a prospect 55 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: can get called up to the big leagues and not 56 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: play every day and have success or you feel like 57 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: it's setting you up for failure if you do that. 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: I think it's tough, dude, you know, because like you 59 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: go from especially if you're mentioning like top prospect guy 60 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: that gets a lot of opportunities, a guy that knows 61 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: every single day that he's going to be in that 62 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: lineup regardless of you know, who gets called up around 63 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: him in the minor leagues I'm speaking about. So when 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: you get to the big leagues and you're used to 65 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: playing every single day and you know, your numbers not 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: being called upon as often, it I feel like it's 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: like it's hard, dude. I mean, you know, you sit 68 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: there for six seven innings and you get thrown into 69 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: the eighth of the ninth and it's the best guys 70 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: on the mound, and it's it's not easy. So I 71 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: think it's one of those things where you're learning on 72 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: the fly as you go, and obviously you know you're 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: trying your hardest, but you know, some of these guys 74 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: you have no chance again, so it's you know, they're 75 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: kind of stacking you up against the eight ball. 76 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: I think. 77 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: So you're from small town Georgia, you went to small 78 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: town Cleveland, and you're when you were drafted and you 79 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: played small town minor league baseball, and then you get traded. 80 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: You were you were. You were the throw in in 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: the JP fire Eyes in trade and the Ben Keller 82 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: trade for Andrew Miller. But you were the Marquis Peace 83 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: coming back in that trade, which was tougher for you 84 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: New York fans or New York media being twenty two 85 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: years old, being the next next hope for the Indians 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: because I can say the Indians there were the Indians 87 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: at that time. So who was tougher, the media or 88 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: the fans? 89 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: I think the media. 90 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I think that, like, you know, there was a because 91 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: like here's the thing, dude, Like I I came in 92 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: not knowing anything about New York baseball, right, Like I 93 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: genuinely did not watch baseball growing up as a kid, 94 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: if I did it was like Ryan Howard was the 95 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: only guy that I really focused on, and I really 96 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: didn't know much beyond his years. So when I come 97 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: in week one, you know, they're asking me if I 98 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: asked Mickey Manno's number to be unretired so I could 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: wear it. And I'm sitting there thinking like, I don't 100 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: even know what number this guy wears, and I'm being 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: told by people with the Yankees like you cannot say that. 102 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: And the only people that were asking me the questions 103 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: that backed me into a bad corner were the media. 104 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: So for me, I felt like they saw that, you know, 105 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: I was going to give an authentic answer. I was 106 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: going to be honest, and I genuinely, at twenty two 107 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: years old, had no idea that I was kind of 108 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: being fleeced into, you know, some clickbait headlines until eventually 109 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: I read a few of them and I was like, Okay, 110 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: I kind of see what they're going with right now. So, 111 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: you know, every now and then I would lean into 112 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: the questions and give them what they wanted. But you know, 113 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: there was obviously times when I was like I just 114 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this guy. Today, So 115 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be I'm gonna be vanilla. 116 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 5: Hey Clint, it's crazy what you're talking about and how 117 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 5: they tried to get you to do this. But was 118 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 5: there a veteran guy that grabbed you and said, Hey, 119 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 5: you don't have. 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: To do this. 121 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: You don't have to speak about this, you don't have 122 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 5: to answer this question. You can give the Derek Jeter 123 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 5: say a bunch of words and don't really say anything, 124 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 5: and they'll all love you no matter what. There was 125 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 5: no veteran that grabbed you and said, hey, let's do 126 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 5: this a little bit differently. 127 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, But I can't remember 128 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: a specific moment where somebody came up to me and 129 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: was like, hey, brother, you need to you need to 130 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: go this direction instead of going that direction. And you know, 131 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: ultimately I genuinely like and I say this with no like, 132 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: no disdain, no nothing towards anyone like. I never really 133 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: had somebody that actually took me under their wing and 134 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: stuck with me the whole time. Maybe it was in 135 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: short bits I had somebody that was trying to help 136 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: me along the way, but it was never like if 137 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: there was issues. 138 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: With what Red Thunder was doing. 139 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: It was all behind the scenes, and no one ever 140 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: pulled me to the side to kind of like help me. 141 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: I went through a lot of stuff that was silently 142 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes that I would find out from, 143 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, just being around people and seeing how they 144 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: were acting. 145 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 4: All right. So one of the things that was behind 146 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: the scenes and came out was what Delan Patance has said, 147 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: the story of your Jordan contract. Can you tell your 148 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: side of it? Because Dellan went on the ALT cast 149 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 4: the other day and told his side of it, how 150 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 4: Guardy Guardy pranked you a little bit. 151 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: So just to clarify, when I saw that on my timeline, 152 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: that was the first time that I had found out 153 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: that Guardy was involved in this. I like, honestly, bro, 154 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: I can say it with like all love. Guardy was 155 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: probably my favorite teammate that I had in New York. 156 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: He was the funniest guy. He was really he was 157 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: good to me, he was good to everybody. So for 158 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: Guardy to go that long and never bring it up 159 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: to me, that's that's that's kind of messed up, dude. 160 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Because I was I hung out with him a lot, 161 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: so it does feel like a Guardy prank, but it 162 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: feels like it was executed by CC. So for me, 163 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: like I'll just keep it straight, Like I look, man, 164 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: I I was trying to wear Jordan cleats during the 165 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season, and I. 166 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: Don't really know what was going on that year. 167 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: I had a lot going on, but I was I 168 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: was putting cleats on the bottom of s. I was 169 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: just I was spending a lot of money on stuff 170 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: that was really just not needed to be spent on 171 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: in the shoe world. So I started to do this 172 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: and it got a lot of attention on social media. 173 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I did a really good job at like posting some pictures, 174 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: posting some comments, like trying to engage with people to 175 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: let them know that what I was going to be 176 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: wearing that night. And I just happened to have three 177 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: teammates who were signed by Jordan who thought that that 178 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: was kind of corny on the other side. So for me, 179 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: it was like, hey, like I'm I'm doing the best 180 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: that I can. This is an attempt to try to 181 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: get a Jordan deal. This is the best I've got. 182 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: And so you know, I show up to Yankee Stadium 183 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: one day there's this vanilla folder just sitting on my 184 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: locker like thinking about it now, like it's super suspicious 185 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: because I don't even know if there was like a 186 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: postage note from it. But I opened it up and 187 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: it's this white letter. And I actually spent hours looking 188 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: for this letter. It's in my house. I know it's 189 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: here because I kept it because I was like, I 190 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: have to keep this, regard this if it's real or not. 191 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: But the most convincing thing was that the letter, like 192 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: the paper was so thick, like it was so it 193 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: was so professional, the way they stamped the Jordan logoing 194 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: to the top. I was like, I mean from the beginning, 195 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: I was like, somebody, somebody of some. 196 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: Good stature sent me this, and I did it. 197 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: So I started going around, started asking some players like hey, 198 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: like what do you got on this, and everyone's like, yeah, yeah, 199 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. Like I think I talked to CC. 200 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: I think I talked to Hicks. But the guy that 201 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: sold me the most was Dylan. Like Dylan Dylan was 202 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: good to me. We didn't have a lot of interactions. 203 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: So when Delan was like, hey man, I got that 204 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: letter too, like Dellan has no idea, but that sold me, 205 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Like That's when I was like, I'm a Jordan guy. 206 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: That's it. I'm a Jordan guy. 207 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: Dlan said he got the letter I'm in. He was 208 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: the only one that I believed, right. So a few 209 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: days go by, and I mean a few days, he said, 210 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: it was twenty four hours. That is not what happened, 211 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: because what followed was the Red Sox series where I 212 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: had a bad game and I got Jessica Mendoza sitting 213 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: in the booth holding a pair of my shoes saying 214 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: like these are so sweet. But on the flip side, 215 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm in right field, just like a casualty out there 216 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: dropping three fly balls. So she goes from like talking 217 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: good about my cleats to talking bad about. 218 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: How I'm playing. And so I single handley lose the. 219 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Red Sox game that night basically, and come back to 220 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: my locker and change and there's like, I don't know, man, 221 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it was like a block party inside of 222 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium locker room with the media, like a. 223 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: Hundred of them there, like just feasting. So they're waiting 224 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: for me. I go off. 225 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: I took a phone call from somebody that I needed 226 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: to talk to and ended up not talking to the media. 227 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: So a few days go by, right, like the Red 228 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Sox series finishes. 229 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: We go to Toronto. The next night, we have an 230 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: off day. 231 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: There's plenty of time to tell me that this letter 232 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: is fake, and nobody tells me. I actually went to 233 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: Guardi's room because he checked on me that night. And 234 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: then the next damn sitting in the locker room and 235 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: Seec comes up to me and. 236 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, cause that letter's fake, dude. 237 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: And I had already made fifty phone calls dude, trying 238 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: to confirm this was real. Like, my agents called the 239 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: Jordan people and they're like, we did not send that letter. 240 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: So you know, they got me. 241 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: And I felt like it was it was a little 242 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: too far because I didn't have a good relationship with 243 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: a couple of the people involved, so for them to 244 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: do that felt a little more cruel than a prank 245 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: to me. 246 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: All right, well was it cruel this year when you 247 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: saw a Yankees game and dude started having a little 248 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: bit longer hair and a little bit more beards, Like, dude, 249 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: you tried to when you got traded over, when you got. 250 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 5: Traded over from the Indians. 251 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you had your red thunder hair and they said, 252 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: what to you? 253 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: You got to shop the locks kid immediately, I mean 254 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: I did. I remember specifically Jenny Steinberner seeing me for 255 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: the first time and coming up to me and like 256 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: grabbing my hair and being like, I can't wait for 257 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: this to be cut. And this was in the off season, 258 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: so like I knew right then and there. I was like, 259 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: this is this is not going to be good, because 260 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm not the type to want to do things the 261 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: first time you asked me, and I tried to buck 262 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: the system and certainly kept the hair above the shoulders. 263 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: But man, it seemed like it was like all the 264 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: way down my back, the way that it was being covered. 265 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: I think it was because it was red hair. Dude, 266 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: if it was blonde, I don't think anyone would have carred. 267 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: So what did you think when they got rid of 268 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: the beard policy. 269 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: I was just highly offended. Man. I was highly offended 270 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: because I felt like. 271 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: I felt like I was one of the guys there 272 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: that certainly was trying to like push the envelope, you know, 273 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: like the whole twenty twenty season underneath my COVID mask, 274 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: Like I had a. 275 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: Full beard that year. 276 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: So I was like I was already trying to like 277 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: go certain routes and hide the stuff. And when they 278 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: got rid of it, like one year after I'm gone, 279 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: I was. 280 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: Like, you got it. That felt personal. 281 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Now that I'm actually thinking about it, that one that 282 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: feels personal a little bit. 283 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 4: Well yeah, I get it. 284 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: I get it all right. But I want to know 285 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 5: if you can look back at your career now that 286 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 5: you're done playing, you had good numbers of triple A 287 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 5: every time you were down there, and then you got 288 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 5: to the big leagues, you got some ups and downs. Obviously, 289 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: what's the big as difference to triple A in the 290 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: big leagues as far as hitting wise, pitching wise, what's 291 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 5: the difference? 292 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: I think that like one of the big things that 293 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: I noticed in triple A versus the major leagues is that, 294 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: like when you're in the minor leagues, it's like there's 295 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: really not guys that you look at and you're like wow, 296 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: like I haven't seen something like this before. And then 297 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: another thing that stood out the most to me is 298 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: when I'm standing in the outfield, like there's a whole 299 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: other deck to these stadiums, Like the amount of people 300 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: that filled these stadiums. 301 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: In the eyes on you. 302 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: It creates like this aura around the players when you 303 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: got a roll to Chapman coming out of the bullpen 304 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: and the whole stadiums lighting up with flames, and you're like, 305 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: I didn't see that in Triple A, Like I didn't 306 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: get that experience. So I think for me, it's just 307 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: like you see these guys and you feel like you're 308 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be there, and once you get there, 309 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: there's they're there. You know, you got one second to 310 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: make an adjustment to hit off these guys. And it's 311 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: a lot of established big leaguers that have faced people 312 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: that are certainly more capable or have accomplished more in 313 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: their careers than what I've done in my short careers. 314 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: So I'm just like I'm David versus Goliath, you know. 315 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: Like I think that's really what it comes down to, 316 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: is that the older that I say this, the older 317 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: that I got in baseball, the more I started to 318 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: realize that, like there's levels to the preparation that these 319 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: pitchers and players have. 320 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: They're a little bit older, and there's there's. 321 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Tricks and things that they can do to get you 322 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: to fall bait to the things that they want you 323 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: to swing at, and I fell bait to plenty of 324 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: things because of, you know, just being a younger guy, 325 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: not being around the block, and not having a lot 326 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of experience compared to some of the guys that were 327 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: in the major leagues for many years beyond whenever I 328 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: got there, when you were in the. 329 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: Minor leagues with the Yankees, did you feel like at 330 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: one point coming over from the Indians, they were a 331 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 4: little too analytical, a little too just in that in 332 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: that direction for you. 333 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean I remember being told by a specific person 334 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: in the analytics department that they didn't believe in like 335 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: players getting hot, you know, and that was all analytically driven, 336 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: and that was their way of saying, like, for instance, 337 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: like I could be fifty five or fifty five and 338 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: they would be like he's not hot, Like it's gonna cool, 339 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna cool down. Like they they believed you were 340 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: what you were, And in my mind, I was like, 341 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: but that's not using your eyes, you know what I mean, 342 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: Like this guy's on a scorcher right now, and you know, 343 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: like you got to run with that sometimes. And so yeah, 344 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: like I do feel like they hired a few too 345 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: Mini Rocket scientists to try to like make the lineup 346 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: instead of just like letting a former player or a 347 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: guy that has more experience write the lineup. 348 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 5: That's funny. Yeah, analytics don't believe that you're a human being. 349 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 5: Just always remember that. I mean, analytics are good for 350 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 5: some things. But you're never hot, you're never cold. You're 351 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: just a robot. You're never mad at your the person 352 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 5: at home, your kids are never sick, your dog was 353 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 5: never sick, and keep you up all night. You're just 354 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 5: a robot. So always remember that. Always remember that you're 355 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: a robot. Now you got to experience what I like 356 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: to call the White Sox experience. Okay, after I was gone, 357 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 5: please explain the difference between the Yankees and the White 358 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 5: Sox experience. They would let you have long hair, but 359 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 5: you had it's a little bit. Yeah, go ahead. 360 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: I left my White Sox hat sitting upstairs, and I 361 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: almost wore it for you, like the. 362 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: Only it's the only baseball hat that I wear. 363 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm so proud to be able to say that I 364 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: was a Chicago White Sox for so many reasons. 365 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: So like that was I'll be honest, like a j 366 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: that was. 367 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: The most fun I've ever had in a baseball experience, 368 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: but it was not like as a fan for what 369 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: the reason I was having fun was like, you don't. 370 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: Want me to have fun for those reasons. Like it 371 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: was not the reasons brother. 372 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: When I got there, I just specifically remember being told 373 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: like I'm not going to throw people under the bus. 374 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: But it was a staff member being like, we got 375 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: a lot of superstars that don't want to act like superstars, 376 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: and he's like, I need you to bring some energy 377 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: because these guys do not hustle. They don't they don't 378 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: try hard. 379 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: Dude. 380 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: I saw what looked to be like eight different season 381 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: inning injuries to like the naked eye, all for them 382 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: to go to the hospital get diagnosed and like not 383 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: even a bruise, and it was just like these guys 384 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: didn't want to play, like they didn't want to do stuff. 385 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: I remember specifically, like one dude's laying on the ground 386 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: in the batter's box like looked like he broke his back, 387 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: and I looked at the trainer and was like, what's 388 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: going on. He's like, Dude, that's just that's just normal. Man, 389 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Like we're not gonna go out there and check on 390 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: that and I was like, this is crazy, Like this 391 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: is this is crazy, and I mean got between being 392 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: in hitters meetings and guys being on their phones while 393 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: the managers trying to hide people up like just like 394 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: straight like I mean, challenging people, challenging the people that 395 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: were in charge was all I saw. Likes running the asylum, 396 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: no doubt there was. There was no They put a 397 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: group of guys together that was like, it's like a militia. 398 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: Like they were not they were they were not gonna 399 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 2: go down. It was great. The players, which which which 400 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: should you rather have? 401 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: It sounds like you're saying, no rules, White Sox to 402 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: all the rules Yankees. 403 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: Which would you. 404 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: Rather have. 405 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: White Sox all day? Dude? 406 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Like that was like like if the if the Red 407 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: Sox got a documentary, the White Sox are so much 408 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: more deserving of it from the like, if you want 409 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: to get the fans involved and see what's really going 410 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: on in these locker rooms, you had to have been 411 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: in that twenty twenty three Chicago White Sox locker room 412 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: like there was that was I can't even I don't 413 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: want to do that to certain people, but that was 414 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: the most fun I've ever had I'll just say that. 415 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: Wait, can you give me anything else? You don't have 416 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: to say any names at all, not asking for name 417 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: Lance Lynn Well, Lances, Lances our buddy. But was there 418 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: anything else that you observed there that was different from 419 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: the rest of your experiences? As you mentioned, there were 420 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: guys that didn't want to play anything else that you 421 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: would be there and look at and be like, this 422 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: is documentary worthy. This is not what I've seen anywhere else. 423 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: I'll give you one thing because this is unlike any 424 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: experience I've ever had. I'm not going to say his name. 425 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't want it because some people are still playing, right, 426 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: I'll just beat around the bush. But there was there 427 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: was a time where a player did not hustle down 428 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: the line and in his eyes, he didn't know where 429 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: the ball went. It's what he said, right, Like he 430 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: didn't like he swung and didn't know where the ball went, 431 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: had no idea that he went and play, and that's 432 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: why he didn't run. But in the manager's eyes, like 433 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: he was not gonna have that. So he went over 434 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: to this certain individual and was like what the hell 435 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: or sorry, you know, like what's going on? Like why 436 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: aren't you why aren't you hustling? Like I'm gonna take 437 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: you out the game. And this was like the first 438 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: couple of days I was there. 439 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: This guy looked back. 440 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: At the manager and was just basically like, if you 441 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: take me out this game, we're gonna have a serious problem. 442 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: And the guy was like, are you threatening me? And 443 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: he goes take me out this game, We're gonna have 444 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: a serious problem. And like this guy did not come 445 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: out the game, and I was. 446 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: Like, holy, like this guy is He just threatened the 447 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: menser like like you know, like I'm gonna like, we're 448 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna have a serious problem if you take me out 449 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: this game. 450 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: And like I had never any stayed in the game 451 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: and was in the lineup every day. 452 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: Moving forward, Like it was like, Wow, who's really running 453 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: this team? 454 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: That's good? Have you seen that before? 455 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 5: Have I ever seen Well, listen, I'll tell you this 456 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 5: story about the White Sox. This is and it's it's 457 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 5: not even on this level. But Brian Anderson, who was 458 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 5: a first round pick for the it sucks right. They 459 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 5: were gonna send him to Triple A because he couldn't hit. 460 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 5: And he goes, if you send me to Triple A, 461 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 5: I'm going to become a pitcher and they're like, excuse 462 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 5: me what he did later in his career. But he goes, 463 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 5: if you send me to Triple A and become a 464 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 5: pitcher and they goes, so you'd rather just never play 465 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 5: in the big leagues or go to Triple A and 466 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 5: be a picture and he's like, yeah, I'll stay in 467 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 5: the big league. He's like, okay, fine, you can stay. 468 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 2: Didn't send him down. 469 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 5: Well, literally, they first they asked him, will you if 470 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: you would you rather be in the big leagues or 471 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 5: go to Triple A And he's like big leagu's like 472 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 5: what if he never plays? Like, I'd still rather stay, 473 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 5: and they go, okay, well, we're probably gonna send you down. 474 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: He goes, if you send me down, I'm going to 475 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 5: become a pitcher and they're like, okay, you can stay. 476 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 5: Didn't send him down. 477 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: It worked. It worked, The threat work, it worked. 478 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 5: And then he became a picture later but still epic. 479 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: All right, we're tight on time. I got one more 480 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: for Clint. Back to the Yankees for a moment, because 481 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: you talked about your experience has been really vocal about 482 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: you know, how it's tough for young player and especially 483 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: go through a system like that. Media like that somebody 484 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: who's pretty quiet on the team now has him become 485 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: a superstar. Was highly Anthony Bolpi seems to be the 486 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: guy that Yankee fans are picking on right now. His 487 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: defense is taking a step back. If that's okay, What 488 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: would be your advice for someone like him to try 489 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: and get through that? 490 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know Anthony beyond meeting him in 491 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: the lobby at Yankee Stadium the day that he got drafted, right, 492 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have much interactions around him. But if I 493 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: could give him any advice, it would be like, brother, 494 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: we got to get off social media. Like, like I 495 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: know that everyone says they're not affected by the things, 496 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: Like you would have to get off of it. You'd 497 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: have to just trust what got you there. Like, I 498 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: know that Volpi's in a tough situation because, like you know, D. D. 499 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Gregorias was there, Jeter was obviously there. Like there's a 500 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: lot of people that there's a lot of big shoes 501 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: that he's having to fill, and you know, I know 502 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: that he he's got it in him, But like I 503 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: think he's just one of these guys bro that the 504 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: media is just picking on him. Because they're running out 505 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: of people to go after, and so so if he 506 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: can find a way to silence that outside noise. You know, 507 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: pressure does one of two things. It creates diamonds or 508 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: it busts pipes. And so find a way to be 509 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: that diamond in the rough that that the Yankees are 510 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: hoping that you can be in and just no pressure, man, Like, 511 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: I know that's tough to say, but like you're struggling 512 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: right now, So what's the worst that can happen if 513 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: you go out there and just try to like play 514 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: as free as you can and and and just ultimately 515 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: just be what Anthony Volpi wants to be. It's like, 516 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: there's no better person to be than yourself, So don't 517 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: try to fill the shoes of someone else. 518 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it. 519 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: I like it, especially that first part too. Just get 520 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: off socials for a little bit. Don't look because the fans, 521 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: I mean it's more the fans than the media on 522 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: this one. Like we have our Yankee show Pinstripe Territory, 523 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: and I listened last night and whoof they were bringing it. 524 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: They're like, We're done that. He's not our short stub anymore. 525 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, relax, but but that's what you get here. 526 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: The expectations are higher when you're with an organization that 527 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: has a massive fan base that. 528 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 5: And they're expected to win. 529 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: That is expecting to win. And he was originally looked 530 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: at as, Oh, he's going to be a superstar. He 531 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: hasn't been a superstar yet for the first few seasons. Anyway, 532 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: It's it's interesting. I'm just like, yeah, he does have 533 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: a gold glove. Yeah, defense took a step back this year. 534 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 5: Battle gloves are great, but what's that Fans don't really care, right, 535 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 5: I mean, just tell me if I'm wrong. Right, gold 536 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: gloves are great and all, but like, oh, cool, he 537 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 5: plays great defense. Can he get me a hit? Like, 538 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: especially in New York, Like they got a hit? 539 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I came in I like COVID 540 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: season came in second and the gold glove and everyone 541 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: knew that was fake. 542 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: So like for me, it's just like. 543 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: I only got a gold glove because I could hit, 544 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, like and I fully believe that. So like, bro, 545 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, if if Casman is looking 546 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: at me in the face and say, hits bring you friends, like, 547 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: then I don't really care about the glove. 548 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: As much as I do about the bat. Yep. 549 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: I love that he was wearing the beard under the 550 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: mask too. I didn't even realize that that's good. 551 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: That's whole year. Yeah, whole year. 552 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: I like that. 553 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: Clint. 554 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: This was awesome and I hope you enjoyed it. You're 555 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 3: really good. Great answers, We'll have you back. Appreciate the time, man. 556 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: Good to see you all right, guys, thanks for thanks 557 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: for having me and hey, aj go White songs. 558 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 5: Baby put my captain on for it. 559 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 560 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: Give plan to follow at Clint Fraser's really good follow 561 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: on X and all that. 562 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: Thank Clint. 563 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: We'll catch you down the road.