1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Only think I'm plugging is forgotten seasons. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Trevor resa Man an eighteen year 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: pro one thousand, one hundred and eighteen career games played. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: First off, welcome to the show. But secondly, do you 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: know how many players in NBA history have played over 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: a thousand games? In the class that you're in? If 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: you're to take a guess, the one thousand and overclub. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: A thousand games, which is ridiculous, I would say, what 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: fifty Maybe it's. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: A little bit more one hundred and forty nine hundred 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: forty nine. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: That's crazy. I mean, I'll be I was throwing a 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: shot in the dark. I had no clue. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 4: So hey, did you realize you played over a thousand games? 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: Had no clue every time? I'll just be playing to 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: play it. 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: No, a thousand games is absolutely ridiculous. For one hundred 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: and fifty people in the league of what four thousand, 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 4: forty five hundred players, you know what I mean? For 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: only one hundred and fifty to be playing up for 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: a thousand is ridiculous. 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 23 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,639 Speaker 1: Is their stats a minutes played? 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: We can find that right now? 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 5: Why not? 26 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: That would be a cool one. And though I'm one 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: of those people like I just really just played the game. 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: I willn't know my stats unless somebody told me what 29 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: they want. 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, what you're throughout your whole career. 31 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: Throughout fucking high school, college, NBA, I didn't never hear 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: like I mean, obviously I know what the stats are, 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: but as far as like keeping them or remembering them, 34 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: I don't really care about that. It was more so 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: wins and losses for me. 36 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: You know that's rare to because you know in the 37 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: NBA that you know that I played in and that 38 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: you came into earlier in your career, you know how 39 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: people was about them stat sheets. Oh yeah, remember now 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: that now you can read them out in the oven. 41 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: Remember before when we started playing, you have to have 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: them off to the side. You have to have it 43 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: off to the side over Yeah, depending on who you were, 44 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: you weren't supposed to be looking at the stat sheet 45 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: like that. 46 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: You know. 47 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: Now kids see them. You know, they got iPads. They're 48 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: reading stash sheets and philolf In like back in the 49 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: nineties NBA, like the coaches had them and like they're 50 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: heavy minutes dudes, maybe like a you know, a GP 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: or you know, what I mean, one of like the 52 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: main superstar. 53 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy if you if everybody else had that shit, 54 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: you was deeming selfish or you only cared about what 55 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: you had cracking. 56 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: So a minute, a minutes check. 57 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: You played almost thirty three thousand minutes and your number 58 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: number one ten all time in minutes played. So all 59 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: this to say, I think it's fair to say you've 60 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: seen some shit. 61 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: Oh man, a whole fucking bunch. And the crazy part 62 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: about all that is like we ain't even count practice time. 63 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: People don't even forget about that, like practice time and 64 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: all that shit. And I like to practice. I like 65 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: to practice. I like to participate in sharpen my skills 66 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 3: every day. So I've seen a lot of shit. They definitely. 67 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: So to start with your entry to the league, so 68 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: you play eighteen years in the league, you know, among 69 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: the highest played minutes in NBA history, which is crazy. 70 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: And we were talking before the recording that you came 71 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: in in two thousand and five, which is I mean, 72 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: everybody knows what basketball was played like back then. You 73 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 2: said it yourself, you couldn't go through the lane without 74 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: getting an elbow in your ribs. 75 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 5: And then you walk out. 76 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: Of the league in twenty twenty two, which is it 77 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: might as well be a different sport. Like do you 78 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: notice the league changing like as you're going through and 79 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: do you think of like defining and you were on 80 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: the team or the Rockets with Mike D'Antoni, who you 81 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: could say really pushed that trend. Like when you think 82 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: about just your eighteen years and what you kind of 83 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: witnessed in NBA history, I mean, it's damn near what 84 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: more than a fourth of like a fourth of NBA history. 85 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: You were in the league of his life. Yeah, it 86 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: was half of his life. Yeah, that was a point 87 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: in time when I was in the league. It was 88 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: I was in the league for more than half my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 89 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: it's yeah, eighteen years, this is a long time to play. 90 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: But I did see the league transition a lot from 91 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: when I first came in until you know, I completed 92 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 3: And it's it's crazy because at first it was extremely physical, 93 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And the guys wasn't as skilled. 94 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: When I first came in, it was just very tough, 95 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: very strong, tough minded. But as time went on, they 96 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: started to guys start to evolve. Players could shoot from 97 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: deeper players was jump higher, they was handling the ball, 98 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: creating you know, moves on the fly, on the go. 99 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: It was crazy, you know, like just seeing like the 100 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: transition from I'm gonna run your ass over and finish 101 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: this layup to ooh ooh, I'm gonna euro you and 102 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: finish this layup to bomba. 103 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot this deep. 104 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: Ball from half and if you don't guard me from half, 105 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: your ass is gonna get wet. 106 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: So it's crazy. It's completely different. 107 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: When did you first hear the term three and D player? 108 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: Because I think when people think of you, you were 109 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: like a prototype and probably set the trend for something 110 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: that people are getting paid one hundred two hundred million 111 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: dollars today for being which is a three and D 112 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: wing dude six foot eight, six'. Nine when did you 113 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: first hear that? Trend BECAUSE i don't think you guys 114 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: could correct me If i'm. WRONG i don't think that 115 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: saying really existed when you entered the, league but it 116 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: definitely does. 117 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: Now, NAH i did. NOT i don't think that was 118 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: a thing when, well it definitely wasn't a thing WHEN 119 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: i first, started BUT i guess, SHIT i don't even 120 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: remember when they. 121 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: STARTED i think that came in when analytics came in to, 122 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: you If i'm not, mistaken probably, right that's when they 123 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: started labeling, things you, know labeling. Specialists you, know a 124 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: guy in a dunker. Spot he's a dunker spot. Guy 125 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: he's a three AND d. Guy he's a baseline, guy 126 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: he's a, this he's a. THAT i think when the 127 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: analytics came in a, game that came in with all 128 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: the you, know the. Labels ta was a basketball player 129 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: when it was AT u c L. A when he 130 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: came out a little, early you, know when some said 131 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: he would want you know a lot of the same 132 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: similar story WHEN i came out OF ucl. EARLY a 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: lot of people say they shouldn't Have he should have, 134 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: stayed he should have did, this he should have did. 135 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: That But ta is always been a basketball. Player you, 136 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: know he's one of The Rico hines early, students if you, 137 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: will or you, Know rico used to train, them so 138 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: WHEN i used to work out with him, too and you, 139 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 4: know and my times were working Our rico MY nba. 140 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: Journey But ta has always just been a basketball. Player 141 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: he's always been able to handle the. Ball he's always 142 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: had an amazing feel for the. Game he listens like a, 143 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: mofo which was crazy for. Me was just one THING 144 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: i knew it was going to be his superpower because 145 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: EVERYTHING i was going through with the, league you could 146 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: tell THE ta could listen and even if it was, 147 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: bullshit he could keep it straight face and let it 148 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: go in one ear and out the other and still continue, 149 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: to you know WHAT i, mean do things his way. 150 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: Respectfully so that's one superpower he's always. Had but he's 151 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: always had a great feel for the. Game good, size, 152 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: athletic no freaky ask thatt, it you know WHAT i, 153 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: mean and everything. Else you can see that if he 154 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: spent time on he would he would add. On he 155 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: would add on to his. Game so when you watch, 156 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: him you, Know, okay if you shoot a thousand, shots 157 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: he gonna be able to shoot in a minute or 158 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: whatever he spends time, on he's going to be able 159 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: to add to his. Game so that's just a little 160 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: backstory from you know WHEN i met WHEN i remember 161 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: FROM ta as a Younger hooper coming out OF ucla 162 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: before he hit the. 163 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: Next, Right, well see that's the, Thing, like that's why 164 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: that's WHY i felt LIKE i was always so BLESSED 165 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: i always Had like the older. Guys, Again i'm attached 166 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: to so many different generations of, people you know WHAT i, 167 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: Mean and going to US la and just having that 168 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: tradition right, there all the older players who was there 169 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: prior to, me they all want to see the next 170 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: generation get better and get. Better and like like he, 171 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: SAID i was a person that, listened you know WHAT i, 172 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: mean even THOUGH i may not, have like my facial 173 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: expression might not change or it might not seem like 174 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes i'm paying, attention BUT i pay attention to, everything 175 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: AND i listen so the fools that's needed to be 176 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: successful in this, business not just the, game but the 177 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: business part of. It you. KNOW i took heed. TOO 178 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: i paid attention to AND i listened to and just 179 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: being able to listen it opens up a whole another 180 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: lane for people that they don't even. Know one thing 181 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: THAT i did learn though throughout my time and how 182 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: fast the game, changed you got to be able to 183 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: adjust as. Fast Bruce lee had this ship where he 184 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: used to, say you, know be like. Water you, KNOW 185 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: i have to be like water because being LIKE i 186 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: could do a little bit of. Everything that the advantage 187 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: was being able to apply that shit to what every 188 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: teams needed at the. Time and again when we talk 189 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: about stats or, History i'm one of the most traded 190 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 3: players in the history in the. 191 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Game so that Means i've been in a lot of. 192 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: Places i've also been able to fit in and rack 193 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: up minutes on the, court which you know transitioned into 194 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: wins for a lot of teams or putting teams together for. Wins, 195 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: so you, know being able to listen and being able 196 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 3: to do a little bit of, everything it definitely helped 197 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: me along my. 198 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: Journey so to steal a quote from, you you said 199 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: that you look at yourself like a, chameleon a player 200 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: that can adjust to. Everything every system isn't for every, 201 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 2: player so it's just about how to. ADJUST i think 202 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: that's the hard and the fun. Part jelanie mentioned that 203 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: you were always a good, listener AND i think that's 204 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: a good starting point because sometimes listening isn't, Easy like 205 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: When Larry brown your second year in the, league tells 206 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: you to not shoot the. Basketball you obviously like later 207 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: in your career became one of the best outside shooters 208 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: in the. League but what is that like as an 209 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: entry point to THE nba as a nineteen year old. 210 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: Kid when you have A hall Of fame championship winning 211 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: coach looking you in the eyes and, saying don't shoot the, 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: basketball how do you? Stay how do you? STAY i 213 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: mean confident is probably the wrong, word BECAUSE i don't 214 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: know how you could be confident in that. Situation but 215 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: can you walk us through that situation and just kind 216 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: of what that what that did to you as your 217 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: entry point in the, league hearing. 218 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: That man with THE i was fire fucking, hot because 219 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: you got to think about it this. Way like he 220 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: calls me in this. Office, now remind, You i'm playing 221 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: for The knicks at the. Time we are not fucking 222 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: good at, all you, know but we got a high pay, 223 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 3: roll so highest in the. League, yeah he. 224 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: Calls me into his office and we're having a. 225 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: Conversation he's asking me like questions about WHAT i THINK 226 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: i can do to help the team win or how 227 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: CAN i like affect the game in a positive, Way 228 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: and Like i'm just listening to him talk or listen 229 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: to him tell me what to do or. Whatever his 230 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: favorite line was run on every, play block every, shot 231 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: and get every. Rebound that was what his thing was 232 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: to everybody who played for his. Team any point guard to. 233 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: Center do all those three things and you can help 234 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: this team. Win so he told, me he was, like, 235 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 3: man you were raised. Wrong you are fucking yourself. Ish 236 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: you just you, know you're not doing the things THAT 237 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: i need you to do, here. Son and it took 238 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: everything in me at nineteen years old to not jump 239 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: out of my chair and fucking attack this. Man everything 240 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 3: is running through my mind right. NOW i just remember 241 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: It's Free well went through some. Shit he was out the, 242 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 3: league just like my second year right in THE, nba 243 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: And i'm, like, okay SO i can't do that BECAUSE 244 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: i don't have enough like legs to stand. 245 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: On this is A hall Of fame. 246 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: COACH i just got to sit here AND i got 247 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: to listen to this motherfucker. 248 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: Tell me That i'm not you, Know i'm not shit. 249 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: Basically so after that, MEETING i have a meeting with 250 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: THE gm who Was isaiah at the, time and he's, 251 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: like HE'S i don't, know he's been through so much 252 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: shit that he feels my frustration and he understands probably 253 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: what the team is, saying and he understands the business 254 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 3: better than me at the. Time so you, know we 255 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: have in this. Conversation he's letting me, know you, Know 256 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: i'm going to give you an opportunity to. Play THEN 257 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: i have, teammates veteran teammates who you, know understood my 258 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: position because they've been in my position, before but staying 259 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: the layout and the law of the land and how 260 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 3: the business. Work and they just kept telling, me like he, 261 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 3: patient your time is gonna. Come you, know he's telling 262 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: you these. Things i'm a one player in. Particular stuff 263 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: on Mar berry is, like, bro, listen this is What 264 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: i'm gonna need you to. Do you want to, Play 265 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: i'm gonna need you to come here and play college style. 266 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: Defense you know WHAT i? Mean and you, know like 267 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: the difference between THE nba and the college like college 268 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: motherfuckers is on ten every single time the whole, time 269 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: and then THE nba is more, like you, know it's 270 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: kind of like you go with the flow. 271 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 5: Show you chilenge. 272 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 3: Challenge, Yeah And i'm just thinking to, Myself, Bro i'm 273 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: going into the gym at four o'clock in the. MORNING 274 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: i don't know HOW i can work on college style 275 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: D i'm gonna go shoot a couple of these. Jumpers 276 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: we'll get off the, plane we'll get off the plane 277 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: at like one thirty two o'clock and it's freezing. Cold 278 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: this is when the dress code was, In SO i 279 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: got my suit on and all. That So i'm hopping 280 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: in my car going to the practice facility at two 281 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: thirty in the morning with a suit, on. 282 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: Putting on my practice, gear shooting for like. 283 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 3: Hours Then i'll go home and like maybe let's say 284 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: it's like four, o'clock hop on my video game Playing 285 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: call Of. Duty damn back to practice right, after right 286 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: After i'm. Done so it was LIKE i was putting 287 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: in the. Work but you know, again like when you 288 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: are a younger, Player Larry brown really wasn't like a 289 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: Younger muther type. 290 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: Coach it'll be with be it be With. TRICKY i, 291 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: GOTTA i. GOTTA i had AN lb run in during 292 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: the draft WHEN i came out of u c L. 293 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: A WHEN i got into the ship THAT i, did 294 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: you know where he said some like slick shit to 295 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: me about you, know first of, all he thinks he 296 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: has like this attached piece to coach AT u c L. 297 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: A so he thinks he has like this fake affinity 298 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: TO u c L. A and he's seen like you, 299 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: know the means the, us the kids who kind of 300 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: leave early when they should, have and he like feels 301 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 4: like it's his duty to like teach us a lesson 302 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: and through HIS nba influence by not kind of giving 303 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: us our propers or not our just, due but like 304 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: he gonna make it harder for you than it might 305 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: should be because he feels like he's teaching you some 306 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: type of. Lesson and for him to tax us for 307 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: the fact that for him to tell you that he 308 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: was raised a round way with some ignorant as, ship 309 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: you know WHAT i. 310 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: Mean but you know the crazy part about all that, 311 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: Though LIKE i got traded to The, lakers and then 312 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: he was the coach of The Charlotte bobcast and we 313 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: played a preseason game In San diego and he came 314 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: up to. Me he was like, SAYING i was wrong about. 315 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: You you, Know i'm apologizing to. You so that, ship 316 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: it was, like you, know LIKE. 317 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna no, bullshit ain't gonna lie to. You 318 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: later on in, LIFE i had another situation With Larry, 319 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: brown same kind of. SHIT i was coaching With. Memphis 320 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: he comes sit you, know he comes sitting next to 321 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: me on the bus on the way back to the 322 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: hotel and he and he puts his hand on my. 323 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: Shoulder he was, like you know, What you're gonna make 324 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: a good. Coach AND i was, like AND i, Was 325 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: i'm thinking of the. Other oh, Shit i'm, like, man 326 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: you just you, know without do, respect you're just an 327 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: older white. Man you, Know i'm gonna just honor you 328 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: and see. 329 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 5: You for what it. 330 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: Is and these two different, times you know WHAT i, 331 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: mean you just get caught up, sometimes you, KNOW i 332 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: just bought it up to, man you're just an older white. 333 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: Man. 334 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: YEAH i got another one, Too like there was one 335 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: time after a game or. Whatever this is, right this 336 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: is right before the meeting that we. Have so this 337 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: is the day before the. Meeting and we're in the. 338 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: Elevator it's, myself It's Coach, brown Is Dave, hanners Is 339 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: Phil ford in the elevator, together you, know like In, 340 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: carolina that's what his that's his, time like. 341 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: He was In North. Carolina those are his, coaches. 342 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: Right so we are on the we're on the elevator 343 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: coming down going to our cars or. Whatever so it's 344 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: dead silent in the. Elevator we just probably. 345 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: LOST i. 346 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: Know he wants to see me. Already so he Tells Dave. 347 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: Henders, now remember is Coach, brown Phil, Ford Dave, henders 348 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: and it's me in the. Elevator he Taped Dave. Henders 349 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 3: first he looks at, me then he Taped Dave. Henders he, 350 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: says Tell, TREVOR i want to see him in my 351 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: office in the. Morning And i'm just looking at, him 352 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: like you, know Like i'm right. Here SO i look 353 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: at that and AGAIN i don't, know, no no. Better 354 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: i'm looking at the assistant. Coach he's, Like, TREVOR i, 355 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: SAID i heard. Him i'm, Like i'm hurt. Him SO 356 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: i had an attitude With Dave henders for like a 357 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: week at that, point like, mother like why are you 358 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: feeding into this? Bullshit not, understanding like this is their 359 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: job and this is what they're supposed to. 360 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: Do so you have a you've got perspective, Now but one, 361 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: reason like why didn't That knicks era? Workout because, it 362 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: like you, said when you got like they weren't, good 363 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: but they had a lot of, Talent they had the 364 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: highest payroll in the, League they Had hall of famers 365 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: in the front. Office was it The New York city? 366 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: Temptations was it. 367 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: Personality you Got, Steph Allen, Houston Tim, thomas. Mcdce you 368 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 4: know WHAT i, mean wasn't. Good he wasn't. There, NO 369 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 4: i mean that here. 370 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: Before, Yeah Alan houston was hurt that, year so he 371 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: played the micro. 372 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: Fracture he was a microfracture. 373 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: Guy he played like four or five games that, year 374 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: but he was. Hurt like and even, after like the 375 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: micro fraction of the games that he did, play. 376 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: He was, Killing like his jumper was so wet it was. 377 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: Crazy but it just the pieces just didn't mention anymore, 378 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: together you know WHAT i, Mean like if you look 379 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: at it and you see the way it, works or 380 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: if you look at it on, paper it looks, like, 381 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: man this is a playoff, team especially with the guys 382 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: like you just, named Like Tim, Thomas steph And Alan. 383 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: Houston but, Again Alan houston was. Hurt steph kind of you, 384 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: know you have the ball in his, hands he played 385 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: the way he. Played Tim thomas was, there he still 386 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: needed the ball in his hands to be effective as. 387 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: Well so it was just like then you Had Kurt thomas, 388 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: again who was a good Like it was similar to 389 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: like HOW D west AND cp was at a point 390 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: in time With David west and Well david Wasn't Chris 391 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: paul was like WITH cp and In Big, bread so 392 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: it was it WAS i don't, know the pieces just 393 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: didn't fit right at the. 394 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 4: Time that's how it. Be sometimes in the, Leg, yeah 395 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 4: it can look good on. Paper you, know when injury, 396 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 4: happened you know what's. Wrong and sometimes it'd be the 397 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 4: rotation or it be the glue guy like you know 398 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 4: that goes down for a couple of weeks and then 399 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: that started got to play heavy, minutes then he get. 400 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 4: Hurt it's funny in the league like. 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It he was teaching 432 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: you how to play the game more and think outside 433 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 2: of the. Box what exactly does that? Mean and can 434 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: you recall any examples or like first interactions you had With. 435 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: Phil we've talked about him in this. Show jelani played for, 436 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: him not your average, coach not your average dude who 437 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: knows what's going through his. Mind what do you remember 438 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: from your first interactions With phil and how did he 439 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: transform your? 440 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: Mind, philip he was just a different style, Period like 441 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 3: he had like more saw that, cool laid, back come 442 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: collected like personality and that you know IF i, MEAN 443 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: i GUESS i feel like that personality kind of fit 444 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: my personality, too Because i'm laid, back cool type of. 445 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: Guy so like on that, vibe we kind of like. 446 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: Meshed and then just to see how he was with 447 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: other players and how he could get other players in 448 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: like heated situations or in like high stressful moments to 449 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: bring their stress levels down so they can think through. 450 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: Situations that's the genius part of, it you know WHAT i? 451 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: Mean like he was able to make fifteen different personalities 452 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 3: mesh together and work together as, one AND i, say 453 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: like playing for them make you think the. Game there's 454 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: a system already in place in the, triangle so everything 455 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: kind of you, know it goes off of ball movement 456 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 3: and energy or. Whatnot but the creativity inside that is 457 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: WHAT i mean by thinking the, Game like being on 458 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: the same page with your players or your, teammates so 459 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: like knowing if they make a certain, turn being there 460 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: when when they turn around and oh, shit like, okay 461 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 3: so now we're doing a three pass instead of center opposite, 462 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: cut just by. 463 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 4: Just where the two pa just by where the two pass, 464 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: goes the whole, thing and when that ship, unlocked when 465 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: that's just slow down at, first it takes Ti like 466 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: WHEN i played in, it it took me a minute 467 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: for it to get into my sales because EVERYTHING i 468 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 4: did was you, know predicated off moving, fast, running being. 469 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: Athletic and it'll make, you like you, said it'll make 470 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: you sit down for a minute and. Think but once you, 471 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 4: unlock you know WHAT i, mean like. Unlocking they don't 472 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: do the best job of teaching you early. 473 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: Either. 474 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: Veteran, yeah they make you they're heavy on the, terminology you. 475 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: Guess really they really just tell you to watch you 476 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 4: goes in front of. You, yep that's all the best tell. 477 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: You they want to explain it to. You you be trying 478 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 4: to put them to the. Side like other. Teams you 479 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 4: could be, like, no what happened on the pandem and 480 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 4: he's coming now to just be like watch you guys 481 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: in front of you do exactly what they're. 482 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 3: Doing and after like a week of doing, this, like all, 483 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: right it's starting to make a little. Sense after a 484 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: month of doing, It, oh this is what you. Mean 485 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: after a full, season it's, like, oh it's like. Clockwork 486 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 3: you know what to. Do but your. 487 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 5: People did he give you a? 488 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: Book he did give me a. BOOK i can't remember 489 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 3: what the name of it. WAS i read like half of. 490 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: IT i didn't completed at. 491 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 5: All that's, fair that's. 492 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 4: Fair there's probably more than a lot of PEOPLE i, read, 493 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: mind but, yeah that's probably more than a lot of 494 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: people couldn't didn't read them. 495 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: Books the book was about like an urban inner city 496 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: kid going into the, country mixing with people that were 497 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: nothing like. 498 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: Him my book With Shan, taran it was a book 499 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 4: about a white man that comes to a village In, 500 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: india mixing with people that were nothing like, him but 501 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: eventually earns the language and becomes the medicine, man see 502 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 4: it step. Bullshit he has something with The west, coast 503 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: you know what i. Mean i'm telling, you you know 504 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 4: WHAT i. Mean there's a there's a barrel of, people you, 505 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: know the, tas The gilannie McCoy's of the, world to 506 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 4: be off over here to. Decide there's THE, nba and 507 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 4: then there's a couple we got a couple of other 508 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: people ON atsp to just be off over. Here, yeah 509 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: swimming in their own. Lane so you know, That, uh 510 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: that's that's, uh that's funny as. 511 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 5: Hell, actually we. 512 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: See to look at the type of people that play for, 513 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: him people that are like, minded whether they know it or, 514 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: not you, know and figuring out how to mesh those 515 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: people together and get them to jail so that you 516 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: can reach the ultimate. 517 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: Gold that's genius in itself right. There he don't have Some. Jr, 518 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: writers Some Dennis, rodmins you know WHAT i. Mean he 519 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 4: don't have some, characters Some Michael, jordan's Some, kobe Some 520 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: scotti's and had some Wild. Euros he's pretty much had. 521 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 4: Everything and don't forget he came from THE. Cba it 522 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: was tooting and booting before the games and. Whatever else you. 523 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: Mentioned you mentioned he played he Had mike and he 524 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: Had kobe, too. 525 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: RIGHT i remember we getting ready to. 526 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: PLAY i forgot it couldn't have to Be San antonio 527 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 3: eight year And kobe HAD i don't know if he 528 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: was struggling or, something or he struggled in the game, 529 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 3: before but usually doing pregame, Film kobe will be like 530 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: dribbling the basketball or whatever just to prepare while the 531 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: film was going. On and one DAY pj he was 532 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: fucking with him the whole. Time he was, Like, michael 533 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: put the ball down, right so he would like just 534 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: yell out, right and he was he wanted being to 535 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: like lock in to being the killer that he is 536 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 3: because he didn't play as well as game. Before SO 537 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: pj never missed his up names or never like he 538 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: never ever ever like didn't out of the out of 539 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: the ordinary or, whatever but that one particular time he 540 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: did and whatever frustration or whatever problem being had at the, 541 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: time that shit went right away at that point in 542 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: time and everything just. Clicked then we and up Beating 543 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: San antonio to in The Western conference finals to go 544 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: Play boston in the finals that. Year so whatever said. 545 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: It work because he was on something maybe because he 546 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 4: was on So Phil jackson just mistake me and looked 547 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: out of it felt he Felt mike over the corner 548 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 4: of his, shoulder, like you know WHAT i, Mean, YEAH 549 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 4: i might be we might be all, right since we're 550 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: talking About Cobb. Ta you were, born you, know you 551 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: were In Los angeles then the early two thousands when you, 552 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 4: know during The Three people where you know THAT i 553 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 4: got THAT i got a chance to you, know sit 554 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: my ass on the bench and to sit and get 555 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 4: up and get a chance to participate In but what 556 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 4: was that like growing up In Los angeles during that, 557 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: time you know WHAT i, mean when at the height Of, Lakrism, 558 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: Kobeism kobe And shaq at that for that, matter you 559 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: know WHAT i, mean what was that going going like? 560 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: That and then later up you, know teaming up with you, 561 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: Know Sin, sir Being. Bryant it was, Crazy, yeah it. 562 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: Was it. 563 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: Was it was dope because again being FROM la and 564 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: being IN la while The lakers is going, on THAT'S i, 565 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: mean there's nothing better than The lakers IN, la you. 566 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: Know and, man the high SCHOOL i went, to it 567 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: was a very per, street prestigious high school as far 568 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: as basketball, is, concerned. 569 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 5: So westchester shut Out westchester. 570 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: Comments, yeah so while they're, winning you, know we're trying 571 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: to do the same. Thing so it was, like, oh 572 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: The lakers are, Winning we're winning, two you, know city, 573 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: championships state championships year after you after. Years so instead 574 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 3: of like comparing ourselves to other high, schools we were 575 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: kind of comparing ourselves to the way that The lakers were. 576 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: Winning and it helped us because it Wanted it made 577 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 3: us want to be better and strive to be the 578 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: second best or whatever the other best teams in that life, 579 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: was even though you know we're not professional. Whatever it 580 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: just helped us grow and, building build and. 581 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: Build, see you're bringing me to a point THAT i 582 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: like to tell people AND i try to make because you, 583 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: know they don't like us on the way on The 584 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: West ta you know WHAT i. Mean they, think you, 585 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: know The East coast In New york is the mecca 586 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: of basketball and all this. Shit but this is you're 587 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: bringing me to a. POINT i say this BECAUSE i 588 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 4: always tell people In, california we had The, lakers The 589 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 4: lakers were winning. Championships we weren't concerned with being the 590 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,959 Speaker 4: old archaic you, know back. East it was THE, mvp 591 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: the scoring, champion, this, this that and the. Third you, 592 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: know that was a big deal In East coast. Basketball 593 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: West coast basketball was team oriented and it was predicated 594 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: on winning. Championships even back in nineteen ninety five WHEN 595 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: i graduated high, SCHOOL i was after the same. Thing i'd, wanted, 596 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: championships plural league for a, city you know WHAT i, 597 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 4: mean state if we can get, it you know WHAT i? 598 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: Mean you, KNOW i was a lot Like. Tea my 599 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: whole career was predicated on. Championships and the more you, 600 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: know of, course you don't have to average. Thirty if 601 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 4: we all winning, championships everybody gonna. Eat everybody gonna get to. 602 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: School if we're in high, school everybody gonna go to school. 603 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: Somewhere maybe it's NOT, ucla maybe you get. Two you, 604 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: know somebody hit At, fullerton somebody go to another d 605 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 4: whatever it. Is everybody gonna get to school if we 606 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: win championships in the. League yeah, ta you, know because 607 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: you later will get to it, later but you later cashed. 608 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 4: In after you win a couple of championships spectal IN, 609 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: la somebody gonna get everybody gonna get, paid. 610 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 5: And everybody eats everybody eats we all eats b. 611 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: Yall look the eight points you made average on the 612 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 4: championships magnified to on the free agent market to somebody 613 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: just just watched. You you went from. Eight now you're averaging 614 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 4: twelve in the. Playoffs they, figuring and you're gonna be 615 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: in somewhere between fifteen and twenty after they give you this. 616 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 5: Money correct for. 617 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: Real every tournament we went, to we made sure we 618 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: tried to beat up on all The East coast teams, because, 619 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: yeah they used to call us soft because we're in The. 620 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: West AND i never really understood, that like they would 621 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 3: compare like because they play outside or they have snow or. Whatever, 622 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: yeah when they sat. 623 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: Their they're in their own. World New York city is 624 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: a snow. Globe you, know there's no that that's their. 625 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: WORLD i think The West coast basketball player is really 626 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: what the MODERN nba player looks. 627 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: Like, yeah we just you, know we just do our own. 628 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: Thing we don't really focus on too much. Anybody we'd 629 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 3: rather win and look good. WINNING i mean. 630 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: That's because you grow up watching Light, bean you grew 631 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 4: up WATCHING b win and look good. Winning you know 632 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: WHAT i? Mean so go, Ahead, YEAH i want TO 633 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 4: i want to show if you could see the. 634 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: Screen you can see the screen. Now, Yeah so we 635 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: got two pictures. Here one is before the two thousand 636 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: and eight, Finals this is like two thousand and, seven 637 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. Range and then the second picture 638 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: is obviously after the two thousand and nine. Finals winning, 639 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: it you get into the league with number Eight kobe 640 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: and you guard, him and then obviously you team up 641 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: with number twenty Four. KOBE a lot was made of that, 642 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: transition and some people had like crazy theories to why 643 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: he did. It the one that's out there that people 644 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: seem to agree with is that he just kind of 645 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: wanted a fresh start post, shack probably in a different mental. 646 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: Space is that? True and what to? You what is 647 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: what is the main difference between Eight kobe and the 648 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: twenty Four kobe that you ended up winning a championship? 649 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: With Man, well THE A, KOBE i. DIDN'T i feel 650 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 3: like he was a. Younger you, Know i'm going to 651 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: kill every fucking body in my. Way i'm gonna win 652 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: on my, terms my. Terms only if you're not working 653 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: like How i'm, Working i'm not fucking with. You i'm still. 654 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: Climbing i'm. Climbing i'm. Climbing i'm, Climbing i'm. CLIMBING i 655 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 3: felt like that's the mentality of. Eight but then when 656 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: you get to twenty, FOUR i THINK i got with 657 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: him his twelfth. Season maybe twenty four was more all, 658 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: RIGHT i Can i'm on this side, now you, Know 659 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: i'm in my twelfth. Year i'm starting to see younger 660 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: guys THAT i. LIKE i want to take up under 661 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: my wing and teach a little bit of. SOMETHING i 662 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: see the same mentality THAT i. Have i'm still a. 663 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: Killer i'm still gonna like talk. Shit i'm still going 664 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: to try to beat your ass EVERYTHING i. Do But 665 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: i'm gonna bring people along with. Me i'm Gonna i'm 666 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 3: gonna share the wealth a little bit, more and let's 667 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: see WHO i can be on this side of you, 668 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: know my. 669 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: Journey trevor as a. Defender, now let's talk about you 670 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: as a. Defender you had to you had to guard, eight, 671 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: right and at some point in time you had to 672 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: guard twenty. Four what was what was it like for? You, 673 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 4: well let's start with. Eight let's start with how was? 674 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 4: It how did you did you change? Defensively you obviously 675 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: had to a little bit but what was it Like 676 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 4: garden eight versus twenty. 677 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 3: Four so my first Time garden eight was again When 678 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 3: Larry Larry brown was my, coach and what he was 679 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: doing was anytime a player would go to their home 680 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: state or, hometown he would insert them in the starting. 681 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: Lineup so my first start For Larry, brown that's WHEN 682 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: i played against The. Lakers, now mind, you this is 683 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 3: Eight Kobe. Bryant this is, like don't say. Nothing i'm 684 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: just gonna go out. Here i'm a fucking like mall 685 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: You Kobe. Bryant and that's exactly what. Happened he just 686 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: took a pure advantage in. 687 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: Me he did was In. 688 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: La, yeah In la this. 689 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: Episode he just completely like fucked. 690 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 3: Me over. 691 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: At every level to the rim and. 692 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 3: Everything just had it. Going it was just LIKE i 693 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: feel like that was in that wasn't like THE i 694 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: think he averaged thirty five that, Year so everybody. 695 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 5: Was was this a revenge? 696 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 3: TOUR i don't know if this was revenge, tour but 697 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: now he was he. Was he averaged thirty five that. 698 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: Year that's ALL i, REMEMBER i. 699 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: Believe so two thousand and, eight you lose the finals 700 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: and then people say that that was like among the 701 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: like maybe the toughest loss Of kobe's. Career and then 702 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: going into two thousand and, nine you guys obviously have 703 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: a full season with, yourself With pao uh and then 704 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: With kobe. Two what do you remember from that seven 705 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: game series against The rockets where they don't have T. 706 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 2: Mac you Got Aaron brooks going, crazy you got our 707 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: test in battier On. Kobe obviously you joined the team 708 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 2: the next, year but that was the only team to 709 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: take you to. Seven they were already. Depleted what do 710 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: you remember about that seven game series against The? 711 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 3: Rockets, man it was that was a, really, really really good. 712 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 3: SERIES i think they stole game, ONE i, believe mm, 713 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: hmm and. 714 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: It was, good but it was no games that was really. 715 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: Close it was either it was every game was like a, 716 00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 3: blowout you. Know AND i think for us beating this game, 717 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: one that that woke us. Up that had to that 718 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 3: turned something those on because, again you think. 719 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: Our TEAM mac is not going to be. 720 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 3: There you take that's twenty seven points that you're taking 721 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 3: off the table right, there you know WHAT i. Mean 722 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: but in the, playoffs you can't even think about anything 723 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: like that because everybody is geared, up focused on this. 724 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: Moment they're trying to get to the same place you're 725 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: trying to get, to and they have really good players 726 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 3: at THAT i think y'all end up going down. Too, 727 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 3: yeah so that definitely helps, us you, know feel or 728 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: have our confidence building higher into going into that playoff. 729 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 3: Series but Again ran went crazy and went. Crazy their 730 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 3: team rallied together behind those two big pieces that were, 731 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 3: missing so you, know we Can it was a good 732 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 3: series of. Fun BUT i like playing In, houston so 733 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: it was. 734 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: Fun uh what happened To Andrew bindham facts as far 735 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: as WHAT i mean he was killing and then was 736 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 2: it just was it just the? 737 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 5: Injury? 738 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, MAN i think it was a number of a 739 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 3: number of things that probably happened With. Drew, again this 740 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: league is taxing. Mentally it's a lot of a lot 741 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 3: of things that you would have to deal with that 742 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: people probably don't. Know plus having to deal with whatever 743 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: he was going through in his personal. Life those things 744 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: could all take you off off your, course, man knock 745 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: you off your. Square so life, HAPPENED i would, Say and, 746 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: again we don't know if he's in a space or 747 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 3: a state where he's cool or where he is you, 748 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: know you never. Know but as far as his game is, 749 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: concerned he was one of the youngest players drafted in the. 750 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: History of the. 751 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: Game and he just blossomed and got better and better 752 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 3: and better and better every single. Year so and we're 753 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 3: judging off his career and what he did do up 754 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 3: until the point where he wasn't healthy enough to. PLAY 755 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: i thought he got better and better and better every. 756 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 3: Year it was a. Monster he was for, real seven, 757 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 3: yeah seven to one. 758 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 4: Postmans he developed some similar to a jump shot Out 759 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 4: jack twelve f you know WHAT i. Mean then he 760 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 4: learned he put, play could get on the. Punt but, 761 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 4: YEAH i MEAN i like. It, yeah both hands left 762 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 4: that right big he just and he came in the 763 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 4: game with knee and back issues, already you know WHAT i, 764 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 4: mean from growing too fast and all that other. Shit 765 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 4: and LIKE ta, said man as a, person you know 766 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: WHAT i, mean who went through eighteen years AND i 767 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 4: probably went through. Everything you can't imagine in the. League 768 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 4: that shit is. Taxing and if you just so happened 769 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 4: to be going through something at the same, TIME i, 770 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 4: mean you, know you, know it's really a dice shoot 771 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 4: for for you, know for the majority of the. League 772 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 4: And i'm just not even saying like a journeyman like 773 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 4: me to speak or somebody turry ta who got. Traded 774 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 4: probably the most Times i'm talking about even your top tier. Players, 775 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 4: man if you know that, shit you can mask it 776 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 4: with money and minutes and your stats of. Averaging but 777 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 4: you know WHAT i, mean when you get home and 778 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 4: on the, inside you know WHAT i, mean that shit is, taxing. 779 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: And not even to, like not not to. 780 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 3: Like i'm not somebody that likes to talk about people's 781 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: ship or their business or, whatever and not to get 782 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 3: too deep into. It but he, was you, know he 783 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 3: was very close with his, family you, know and you 784 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 3: know when he lost his, mother that took a real 785 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 3: toll on, him like for. Real so you, KNOW i don't, never, ever, 786 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 3: ever ever that ship is not like you, know you 787 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 3: can't you can't replace your. Mother you only get one of. 788 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 3: Them so knowing what his mom meant to him and 789 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 3: what his family means to, Him i'm sure that had 790 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 3: a lot to do with how we don't really hear 791 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 3: much about him right, now see that. 792 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 4: Shiit we know a lot of people in the front, 793 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 4: office you know WHAT i, Mean maybe maybe somebody might 794 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 4: maybe maybe somebody might put their hand up and say 795 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 4: something like. 796 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 5: That that. 797 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 4: Ship we, know like in the locker, room when you're 798 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 4: having a bad, stretch a bad couple of weeks and 799 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 4: you smoking layups and weird shit going, on you falling, 800 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 4: shit it'll be happening when you get busy. Mentally it 801 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 4: would just start slipping and sliding out that motherfucker for 802 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 4: no reason or having or having. 803 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 5: A my lying to. 804 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 4: You you, know you'll start smoking layups and fans will be, 805 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 4: like how you missing? Layups so you can't you, know 806 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 4: make free. Throws once that shit happened off, court you'll 807 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 4: it'll affect your ass on, court you know WHAT i. 808 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 4: Mean but believe it or, not but if you need 809 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 4: to have you got to have somebody in the front 810 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 4: office that's really on your, side you know WHAT i. 811 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 4: Mean they can speak to that because only really the 812 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 4: players know that they gonna hold you, down you, know 813 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,479 Speaker 4: for as long as they. Can but To ta's, point 814 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: the business become the business at some. Point but if 815 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 4: you got you a good group of vets and a 816 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 4: team that's really walking with, you they gonna hold you 817 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 4: down as long as they. Can they gonna mask it for, 818 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 4: you somebody else gonna step, up you know WHAT i. 819 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 4: Mean they'll spend extra time with you in the, gym 820 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 4: try to put you on some game off court. Game 821 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 4: so that's the other beauty of the league that you, 822 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 4: know we hold deer and close to our chest that 823 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 4: a lot of people don't get to hear, about you 824 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 4: know WHAT i, mean because you, know players do a 825 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 4: lot of the the healing for you know WHAT i, 826 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 4: Mean their their their locker, room their, teammates, Brothers these 827 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 4: are their, brothers you know WHAT i, Mean so they 828 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 4: do the majority of the healing that goes on in 829 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 4: the locker. Room sometimes it's the, coach A, popovich A Phil, 830 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 4: jackson but they don't even really have time because you, 831 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 4: know they run in their system and their. Philosophies but 832 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 4: for the most, part it comes from the locker. 833 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: Room it definitely comes from the locker room that you 834 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 3: want to, know what What i'm? What What i'm. What 835 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 3: the part of THE nba that kind of like it upset, 836 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: me or the part that they took out THAT i 837 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 3: THAT i don't like is how the veterans and the 838 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 3: rookies interact like they make. It everybody is the same 839 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 3: now and that shit is played because, like if you 840 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 3: are a rookie and you don't have to go through, 841 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 3: anything or you don't have no like understanding on how 842 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 3: like a team is ran or who's the captain or 843 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 3: who's not and everybody is the, same there's no respect. 844 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 3: There so if you don't respect your, vets who's gonna 845 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 3: go to bat for you when you doing? Bunk or 846 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 3: you and you make a young boy, mistake if you 847 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 3: don't have no respect for, him why would he stick 848 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 3: his neck out there for? 849 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: You you know WHAT i mean when you go on. 850 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: Bump so IF i would if there's a part of 851 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 3: THE nba THAT i would like to see happen, AGAIN 852 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 3: i would like to see like order be stored in that, 853 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 3: Regard like all, right young what you got to come 854 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 3: over here and do WHAT i tell you to do 855 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 3: because eventually you'll understand Why i'm telling you to do. 856 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 3: This there's levels to the things that's. 857 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 4: Infinite and feel me on this. ONE, ta you got 858 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 4: NEW tv money coming, in you got these big Super max. Deals, 859 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 4: yo at a roster. Spot let that roster spot be 860 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 4: that veteran glue guy who might be on his way. 861 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 4: Out it's still. Serviceable but you, know you ain't got 862 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 4: to toss them and make them go To taiwan or you, 863 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 4: know overseas. Somewhere let them stay at the crib and 864 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 4: mentor some of these, kids you know WHAT i, mean 865 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 4: instead of paying do seventy eighty million, dollars just add 866 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 4: a roster. 867 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 3: SPOT i, mean that would be a good idea to 868 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 3: add a roster spot experiment. Team but they started to 869 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 3: do this, shit like maybe like my twelfth thirteenth, year 870 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 3: they start to get rid of the veteran, players, right 871 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 3: and the veterans became like twenty, eight twenty, nine thirty 872 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 3: thirty one instead of thirty five thirty thirty. Seven that's 873 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 3: ten years of experience right, there of real life. Experience 874 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 3: and remember like players are coming into THE nba at 875 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 3: eighteen years old and they getting ten million dollars a. 876 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: Year if you in that top, lottery. 877 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 3: Right you don't know what the fuck do you know 878 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 3: about anything that has to do with? 879 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 4: Anything, well that's WHAT i. Mean that's how they squeeze the. 880 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 4: Vets that's how they squeeze the vets because they took 881 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 4: away remember you can only carry twelve or whatever was 882 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 4: it the. 883 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: G league that like that impacted that because there's like 884 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: two way guys now that don't play in THE nba 885 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: at all and go back and forth with THE G, 886 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,439 Speaker 2: league and those are the guys that might be taking 887 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 2: the spots from the thirty eight year. 888 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 4: Old that's WHAT i. Mean, well the front office quantified 889 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 4: it is why WOULD i give a thirty six year 890 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 4: old veteran pay HIM x amount of? Dollars you know 891 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 4: WHAT i? Mean AND i need a youthful guy THAT 892 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 4: i might be able to use or, YadA, YadA. YadA 893 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 4: because after you hit, thirty depending on where you, are 894 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 4: they hit you with all type of shit as to 895 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 4: why you can't play for, yall they're not gonna get 896 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 4: your you know, what you, know your max money and all. 897 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: That after a certain age they. 898 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,959 Speaker 3: Can't there's there's a number on the amount of years 899 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 3: that they could give you in THE. Cba so. 900 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 2: See Uh, so wrapping up, HERE i want to quickly 901 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: talk about just your Second rockets tenure because we talked 902 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 2: about the beginning of the. Stream this is a crazy transition. 903 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 2: Time you walk in right before, D'Antoni so you got 904 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 2: That dwight and hardened. Combination McHale is. There. Uh then 905 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: McHale gets fired and D'Antoni comes, in, uh and D'Antoni 906 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 2: takes what he did With Steve nash and seems to 907 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 2: like sprinkle it Onto James, harden making him lead the 908 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 2: league and. Assists D'Antoni said on record That harden's probably 909 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: the best offensive player of all. TIME i think today 910 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 2: we talk a lot, about you, know the influence of 911 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 2: steph and the influence Of lebron And. Kobe but when 912 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: you look at the dudes now that are killing The, 913 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: lucas The, tatums they're all doing that step back that 914 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 2: might be a, travel but isn't called to. Travel and 915 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 2: the first dude to do that Was James. Harden you 916 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 2: at a front row seat to D'Antoni coming, in, uh 917 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: doing whatever he did With harden and then, hardening exploding 918 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 2: and putting up fifty, five sixteen and eighteen like it's. 919 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 2: Nothing what do you remember from that front row seat 920 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 2: just to the emergence Of harden and then the transformation 921 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 2: of The rockets offense with. 922 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 3: D'Antoni, WELL i can say that confidence will do wonders 923 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 3: for a, player And mike MAN toni system is it'll 924 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 3: already like boost your. Numbers but when you have the 925 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 3: ball in your hands and you're and he's feeding you 926 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 3: his information that he has from an offensive genius, standpoint 927 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: and you have a talent Like James, harden that's what you. 928 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 3: Get you start to get, that and then everybody that 929 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 3: comes after him just gets, better you know WHAT i. 930 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 3: Mean like, again like you Mentioned, luca the shit That 931 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 3: luca is doing and shit That james was, doing But 932 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 3: luca has turned it into he moves at his own 933 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 3: pace and you cannot fuck with. Him so like to 934 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 3: be able to see somebody just have supreme confidence and 935 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 3: able to use their creativity in their own way was 936 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 3: nothing short of like. Amazing every night it was something 937 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 3: different he was. Doing And james is gonna make it, 938 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 3: fun you, know just watching him, Play he's gonna he's 939 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 3: gonna make it. Fun he's a showman as well as 940 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 3: a basketball. Player so it was it was A it 941 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 3: was an unbelievable time to be A Houston. 942 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 2: ROCKET i think there's probably maybe three games in your 943 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: four years with The rockets that might define. It, obviously 944 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen you got The Josh smith explosion against The, 945 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 2: clippers where you guys make The conference finals twenty. Seventeen 946 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 2: That game five against The SPUR i think is one 947 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 2: of the, forgotten like crazy playoff games that we've had 948 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 2: in like the last ten minutes or the last ten. Years, 949 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 2: Sorry danny Green mills is making, Plays harden's making. Plays 950 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 2: how good was that Seventeen spurs team they had pound 951 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 2: The Marcus, aldridge your former teammate Pow kawhi is doing his, 952 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 2: thing and you still have the Old spurs infrastructure in. 953 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: There what do you remember from that game? Five in that? 954 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 2: Series in, General. 955 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 3: Kawhi was fucking the low like he just he's Just 956 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 3: that's WHAT i remember the, Most kawhi just doing this 957 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 3: thing every. Game and THEN i remember the block AND 958 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 3: i think game six at the house they beat, us 959 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 3: right m. H the only THING i remember after that 960 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 3: was we lost on the, block and then game SIX 961 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 3: i think we got blown out by twenty or whatever it. 962 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 3: Was and Then james just two hundred million the next. 963 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 3: Year that's what the FUCK i. REMEMBER i don't remember 964 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 3: nothing else other than. 965 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 5: That that's about how it, went. 966 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: You, KNOW i don't, know it was it, was it. 967 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 3: Was it was weird because although he deserved to get 968 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 3: his pay you, know like the way it happened and 969 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 3: how it. Looked it just it was just a, strange, 970 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 3: strange strange. Thing. MAN i don't never talk on like 971 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 3: people getting anything they, deserve you, KNOW i want everybody 972 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,280 Speaker 3: to get everything and more that they. DESERVE i just felt, 973 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: like when you deem or when you like dub somebody 974 00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 3: like a winner or the, leader the, example how have 975 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 3: to be said a little bit better in that. Situation 976 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 3: and it's not just the player's, fault you know WHAT i, 977 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 3: MEAN a lot of. THAT a lot of that goes 978 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 3: on to you, know the organization and how they how they, 979 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 3: run they. Shit so. 980 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,959 Speaker 5: That's very well. 981 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: Said that's How that's WHAT i. 982 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 2: Remember, Yeah and then obviously eighteen the last year the 983 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 2: game six crazy to rewatch that because you guys were 984 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 2: up at like sixteen and the basketball, GODS i don't 985 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 2: know what they did THE, cp but that hamstring, pop 986 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 2: that was your guy from back in The. Hornets he 987 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 2: was he was killing. You guys looked like you were 988 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 2: on your way to beating what some people consider one 989 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 2: of the best teams of all. Time but that that 990 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 2: four year run In, HOUSTON i think can be kind 991 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 2: of boiled down to or obviously not all boiled, down 992 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 2: but there were specific games where if they, flipped you, 993 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 2: know basketball history as we know it could have changed 994 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 2: and maybe maybe H town gets a tight when you 995 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 2: get number. 996 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 5: Two, yeah, man that would have. Been what was, SAY 997 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 5: i just had a. 998 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 4: Flashback was that the time of the Legendary Trevor visa 999 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 4: state farm? 1000 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 3: Commercial, yeah, yeah that was during that time. 1001 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 4: For, yeah ta got one of the best states the 1002 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 4: good wanted the god to stay state farm commercials of all. 1003 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 4: TIME i JUST i just had a flashback right then 1004 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 4: WHEN i heard you my bad t, ad im mean 1005 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 4: to cut? 1006 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 3: It cut? 1007 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:28,439 Speaker 1: Off? 1008 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 3: Man that was it was back. Again if those things 1009 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 3: happen for us the way that they should have, Happened, 1010 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 3: yes twenty, eighteen we get another, title two thousand with 1011 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 3: fifteen was that with The. 1012 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: Spurs or seventeen seventeen and eight seventeen with The. 1013 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 3: Spurs you, know we advanced and we have a chance 1014 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 3: of you, know playing, Again but the way that it 1015 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 3: was supposed to go up when you, know, like have 1016 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 3: you ever heard of a team going over twenty? 1017 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: Seven definitely, not especially especially that team with the shooters 1018 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 2: that you had. 1019 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: Too AND i think we were number one in offense that. 1020 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 3: Year so for that shit to, happen, man it WAS i, 1021 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,919 Speaker 3: mean nobody could have written it any other. 1022 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: Way shit just happened that. 1023 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 3: Way and it's crazy that you bring that up BECAUSE 1024 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 3: i told this story like on my Little instagram. Yesterday 1025 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 3: i'm leaving a graduation, party right and you, know people are, 1026 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 3: drunk people are having a. Time so some friends are 1027 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 3: getting into it with each. Other you, Know they're doing 1028 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 3: like some chest bumping and, shit and. 1029 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 1: They end up. Fighting. 1030 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 3: Right, so in the middle of these guys, fighting he sees. 1031 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 3: Me he makes eye contact with, me he stops his. 1032 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 3: Fight he's, like hold, up hold, up hold. On he's 1033 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 3: telling this, boy hold, on hold, up, bro let me 1034 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 3: talk To trevor a reason right. Quick he, says what 1035 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 3: happened in twenty, eighteen Why. 1036 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: James Harden ha got no. 1037 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 3: Championship i'm, like, bro in the middle of you getting your, 1038 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 3: ass will be worried about why we lost. It you 1039 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 3: should be focused on not getting your ass with right. 1040 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 3: Now you saved. 1041 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: It oh, no he was getting his ass well while for, sure. 1042 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 5: Y, well that's what you. 1043 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 4: See you saved them Toa you saved them for, yeah 1044 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 4: you saved them for possibly even getting worn out even more. 1045 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,320 Speaker 3: Real but, nah, MAN i don't you know like playing 1046 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 3: in those games or or experiencing what we, experienced even 1047 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 3: though we, lost it taught us. Lessons. Man it's just 1048 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 3: the lessons that we learned was if it's meant to, 1049 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 3: be it's meant to. Be it's nothing that you can. 1050 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 3: Do but if you go out there and you leave 1051 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 3: it all on the, line you know you've done all 1052 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 3: you can, do so the chips fall wherever they. 1053 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 2: May my last, question uh for you is just eighteen, 1054 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: years like you saw so many different brands of, basketball 1055 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 2: what's like the one or two characteristics that a team 1056 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 2: needs to have to win a? Championship regardless of how 1057 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 2: they play or who they. 1058 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 3: Have WHAT i believe a team needs is a really, 1059 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 3: strong mentally strong, leader and they also need a, physical 1060 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 3: tough presence on the court because if you have those, 1061 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 3: things you'll be able to you, know muster through. 1062 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: Anything, again having an. 1063 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 3: Eighty two, season having eighty two games in a, season 1064 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 3: you're gonna be beat, Up you're gonna be. Bruised all 1065 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 3: teams are gonna go through. Injury but when you have 1066 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 3: that leader that's going to continue to push you and 1067 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 3: continue to push, you and then you. 1068 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: Have that physical tough presence. 1069 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 3: That just gives the players or the superstars that freedom 1070 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 3: to go out and be whoever they, are especially if 1071 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 3: they know they have a guy who's who's a tough 1072 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 3: guy on our team that's gonna gonna be there and 1073 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 3: kind of like you, know protect any type of bullshit 1074 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 3: that might happen in the. Game so just, look you 1075 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 3: have those and you have. TALENT i think that that 1076 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 3: helps boost your teams. 1077 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 4: Morale my last, Question, yeah eighteen, Years LIKE i, said 1078 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 4: you've been the glue to a lot of a lot of, 1079 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,240 Speaker 4: generations different styles of, basketball different styles OF nba. Players 1080 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 4: you've seen, it you, know played over a thousand. Games 1081 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 4: what's one thing that you think that you found out 1082 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,399 Speaker 4: about yourself? Now LIKE i, heard you mentioned a few 1083 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 4: things you know during this, Hour so what's one thing 1084 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 4: you know you realize about yourself now that you retired 1085 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 4: that might have led to the reason you played for eighteen, 1086 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 4: years went through all type of different locker, rooms different 1087 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 4: styles of. Play as there been anything since you stopped 1088 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 4: playing that you, realize you know up that that's HOW 1089 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 4: i did. That you, know for, anybody for a younger 1090 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 4: player who might want to play eighteen years t a 1091 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 4: you know WHAT i? Mean what even gave you a? 1092 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 4: Chance we said? LISTENING i know listening was, one but 1093 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 4: is there anything else that really gave you a good 1094 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 4: chance to play within these eighteen? Years maybe it was a, 1095 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 4: person you know WHAT i? Mean what? What what was? 1096 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 4: It now that you, again now that you sat, down 1097 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 4: you got, time a little time to reflect or was 1098 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 4: it that you think. 1099 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: Might let this might be any? One BUT i don't 1100 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: think it is. 1101 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 3: Being able to swallow your pride but keep your ego. Intact, 1102 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 3: YEAH i think that's that's like that what that is 1103 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 3: what had allowed me to be able to play for so? 1104 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 3: Long because it's going to be some ship that testes 1105 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 3: you in this, game as in. Life you, know everything 1106 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 3: is going to test. You so like being the bigger 1107 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 3: person a lot of the, times or or being the 1108 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 3: voice of reason and. Understanding you have to be able 1109 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 3: to do, that but also holding your ground and understanding 1110 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 3: when to fold your cards and when to just you, know. 1111 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: Keep, them keep them in and hold, them hold them 1112 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: with the poker. 1113 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 2: Face so you're, saying SO i, Understand so like keep 1114 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 2: your ego and checking like a carry yourself to a 1115 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 2: high standard like, Standpoint. 1116 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 4: Yeah because you. Want if there's no, ego you won't 1117 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 4: do the. Work you won't go to the gym at 1118 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 4: two thirty in the, morning you won't take extra good 1119 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 4: care of. Yourself if you when you're going through a 1120 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,439 Speaker 4: journey LIKE ta or you're in and out of locker, 1121 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 4: rooms you'll forget who the fuck you was in the first. 1122 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 4: Place you'll be listening to this, person listening to, that 1123 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 4: trying to make the, team trying to fit into the 1124 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 4: the the clicks in the, team the socio shit of the, 1125 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 4: team and the different people that go outers that not go, 1126 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 4: outers the church, guys the family, guys whatever that. Is 1127 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 4: that's WHAT i take of it by keeping, ego because 1128 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 4: that was one of the things THAT i struggle with 1129 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 4: moving in and out of locker. Rooms because you, Know 1130 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 4: i've spent my first three years for one. TEAM i 1131 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 4: THOUGHT i was good and that's how it. Goes i'll 1132 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 4: probably go to another team play for three, years you, 1133 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 4: know but it went year to year to. Year but you, 1134 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 4: know that was one of the THINGS i struggled, with 1135 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 4: is you lose yourself sometimes doing for. 1136 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 3: Sure you definitely can lose yourself moving and then hearing 1137 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 3: what motherfucker's got to. Say so that's what the swallowing 1138 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 3: your pride is. About but keeping your ego intag even 1139 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 3: though you're moving around place to, place you're moving to 1140 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 3: these places for a, reason. Right these people want you 1141 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 3: for a reason because they could have gone with the 1142 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 3: two way, guy or they could have picked brub who's 1143 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 3: been a free agent who's a little bit younger than 1144 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 3: you probably do the same. Thing but they. Didn't they chose, 1145 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 3: you and so that means you still are who you. 1146 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,959 Speaker 3: Are it just the jersey looked. Different you, know my Boy, 1147 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 3: Josh Josh, smith like you mentioned him, earlier he had 1148 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 3: this one saying where he, said all, right now you 1149 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 3: gotta put your pride on your back pocket and your 1150 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 3: wallet in the. Front sit on your, pride, player and 1151 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 3: keep your wallet in your front. Pocket he said that one, 1152 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 3: time he said that to somebody on our, team AND 1153 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 3: i JUST i never forgot that and that that made 1154 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 3: so much sense to me when he said. 1155 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,919 Speaker 5: It we Had josh over. Here, yeah it always beat 1156 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 5: the little bars like. That you're, here just, like what 1157 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 5: what do you? 1158 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 4: SAY i don't even know what that means, yet But 1159 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 4: i'm wronging, whatever but, whatever that, whatever he just, Said, 1160 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 4: yeah that's. 1161 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Une D west said the same, Thing David. West he 1162 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 2: said that if he were to go, back he would 1163 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 2: have probably, like, uh what do you? Say he would 1164 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,919 Speaker 2: have like known is worth a little bit, more talked 1165 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 2: to his ship a little bit, more because he was 1166 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 2: a quiet, dude but if you. Were he felt like 1167 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 2: if he kind of talked his shit, more he could 1168 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 2: have had more. 1169 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,479 Speaker 3: Accolades but we all felt like that Because i've never 1170 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 3: made like an all defensive. Team but my whole, Career 1171 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 3: i'm guarding the best guys and they're shooting percentage percentages 1172 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 3: or you, know ANYTIME i felt LIKE i said in 1173 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 3: front of, them it wasn't a lot of times where 1174 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 3: they shot like seventy percent or sixty. Percent they usually 1175 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 3: shoot a lower. Percentage i've never made an all defensive 1176 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 3: team at. All SO i felt like IF i was more, 1177 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 3: vocal or IF i talked more shit about, it that 1178 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 3: they probably would have paid attention to it. 1179 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 5: More but but people are quick to. 1180 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 2: Hate you, know you play that, wrong then you get 1181 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 2: the arrogant and the cocky. Car but at the same, 1182 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 2: time you, know fuck what they. 1183 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 3: Think, YEAH i, mean it's always been fuck what they, 1184 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 3: think BECAUSE i, know like WHEN i line up against 1185 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 3: somebody or they see, me it's not they know it's 1186 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 3: not gonna be no easy. 1187 01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 1: Win but, again LIKE i JUST i am WHO i, 1188 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: AM i DON'T. 1189 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 3: I never really gave a funk about individual accolades or. 1190 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 3: Anything as long as the winds worked and the person's, 1191 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 3: right you, KNOW i feel LIKE i did a good. 1192 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 3: Job mm. 1193 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 2: Hmm well, yeah, man really appreciate your. Time we'll catch. 1194 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 2: You we'll catch, you, uh catch you on the screen 1195 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 2: a lot more often going. 1196 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 3: Forward, yes, sir all, right you mean