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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her radio Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Today

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Speaker 1: it is just me and I am joined by Katherine Dull. Wait,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, how do I even say your last

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Speaker 1: year original last name? Joe? Are you glad that it's done? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know, but okay, it's not gone. So have you

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Speaker 1: changed your name for real? For real? Or just go

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Speaker 1: by Low? Is that a secret? So? Sometimes I know?

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Speaker 1: And he actually this this year he wants me to

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Speaker 1: finally give him my give trade it out. So why

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Speaker 1: is that this year? Because my plan is maybe when

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Speaker 1: the kids start going to school, and I know that Samuel,

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Speaker 1: your oldest is starting is a kindergartener, first grade kindergarten.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're so so what's is that? Why

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Speaker 1: is it because like we're becoming like official in the

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Speaker 1: school stuff. Yeah, finally saying, but anyways, it's fine. Are

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Speaker 1: you attached me too? Yes? I mean it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit more flavor than they have. So, uh, that's because

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Speaker 1: exactly because you and I are going from Italian cool

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Speaker 1: last names to like very black like Low and Haydn.

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Speaker 1: I am white. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know when I'll do it, but I'll do it. But

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Speaker 1: I have so many questions about motherhood and wifehood marriage

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Speaker 1: that I have a whole different life now than when

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Speaker 1: we last had you on the show. I was a

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Speaker 1: wife when you were on the show, but like being

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Speaker 1: a mom and a wife, it just it's totally different.

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Speaker 1: So first question is do you and Sean have similar

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Speaker 1: parenting styles? And when is the time to kind of

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Speaker 1: go about those conversations. I guess like right away? Right Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't honestly, I don't even know what you would

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Speaker 1: have a conversation about before parents, before you actually parent them,

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Speaker 1: because when you're doing it, it is very different. Um

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Speaker 1: things that happen organically, We are definitely very very similar

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Speaker 1: in how it actually plays out. So we didn't Neither

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Speaker 1: one of us are very pres like um planned people

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Speaker 1: were kind of lax in general, and so I think

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Speaker 1: that kind of goes into our parenting styles. So we

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Speaker 1: couldn't have a conversation about it. Where we had kids,

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Speaker 1: we had no idea what to expect. So yeah, and

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Speaker 1: now now we're totally the same. We love to be

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Speaker 1: together as a family and that's like our number one priority,

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Speaker 1: and that that makes it nice for both of us

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Speaker 1: to be to have that single So when you're in

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Speaker 1: my position, you had seven month olds and you've done

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Speaker 1: it three times, so I need advice from you. And

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Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of young moms and

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Speaker 1: my to be that listen to this podcast. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think this is just pertaining to me. Strict scheduling

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Speaker 1: and have scheduling for a baby? And I mean doing

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Speaker 1: it three times? Sleep training, like I I'm very bad

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Speaker 1: at all of this. Well, I think that every family

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Speaker 1: is so different, and their schedule is different, and their

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Speaker 1: goals are different. There's a lot of and I love

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Speaker 1: to just respect what other people want to do because

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Speaker 1: every every family is different. So if you want, as

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Speaker 1: a mom, if you want to go out to dinner,

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Speaker 1: bring the baby um and have them sleep during that time,

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Speaker 1: that is totally up to you. You have the instincts

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Speaker 1: for your child. I totally think that you should just

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Speaker 1: trust what you know that and you you know if

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Speaker 1: your baby can handle something or not. You can test

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Speaker 1: it out, you can have amnesia and try it out again.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's that's every day for me. Every day

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Speaker 1: I have a regained spirit of hope that like it's

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Speaker 1: going to be different. But then again that's also known

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Speaker 1: profound that I still like to say is it's their

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Speaker 1: first time too, so they don't know any different. They

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Speaker 1: know what they know from you, and I think mostly

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Speaker 1: in any of the scheduling and any of the parenting things,

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Speaker 1: they mostly read your energy and that's how they're going

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to read more of your energy

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Speaker 1: So I think trying stuff out and seeing what works

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Speaker 1: Got ya, thank you, thank you for that advice. And

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Speaker 1: then on the marriage front, you did this with Sean,

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Speaker 1: I get this is my questions a lot. You moved

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Speaker 1: So doesn't that make you sad that you're away from that?

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Speaker 1: But they aren't in the same place anymore. My sister

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Speaker 1: So the only way I could try to recreate that

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Speaker 1: Little Big Talk. Katherine, think you so much for being here.

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