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Speaker 1: special special. This is a special guest. This is not

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Speaker 1: this is family right, This is family right here We've

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Speaker 1: been waiting for this episode for a minute.

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Speaker 2: He's been stirring a little bit of trouble on the internet.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so, I think we caught him at the

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Speaker 2: right time. We caught him at the right time. But

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Speaker 2: all jokes aside. This is family, somebody who was very

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Speaker 2: pivotal in the you know, the ascension of the Rockefeller family,

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Speaker 2: the Rockefeller brand. Today we are joined by Brooklyn's very

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Speaker 1: Memphis believes in the appreciate appreciate my god.

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Speaker 4: What's up, man, man, same grind, different time.

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Speaker 1: Man. We've been trying to We've been trying to connect

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Speaker 1: for a minute.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, but we had to after you pick side.

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Speaker 3: Got it got derailed? Yeah, where he puts out, I

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Speaker 3: was like, the side that's available spot, I'm dead.

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Speaker 1: You know. It was funny because I supposed to.

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Speaker 2: It was like yo what I was like, Yo, what

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Speaker 1: Man? He said, Nah, I'm coming up there. Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I had.

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Speaker 4: To because I understand you.

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Speaker 3: They call you over your more but they said you

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Speaker 4: I forgot why you said you didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't go because I didn't. I felt like, that's

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Speaker 2: to me from what I see. That's that's Jay's last New.

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Speaker 4: York moment, you think so?

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Speaker 1: I think so? Because what do you do after that?

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Speaker 4: Me? Blizzle the Blizzle Tour come in age thirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, five hundred and thirty four days after five three four? Yo, yo,

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Speaker 1: bring him back out. I'm talking all right, that's that fire.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Jay's like his show. Oh yeah, nah,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's them. That's like you didn't want

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Speaker 1: for that? Do you do you take his history?

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Speaker 3: No, I believe what the people saying. I'm with the people.

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Speaker 3: So you believe, said O Yo said no, So you

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Speaker 1: Yo. All right, So it was how do you think

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Speaker 1: Drake worded it? So it was so it was from Drake.

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Speaker 3: Came from probably top five, they know your top It

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Speaker 2: So you believe I couldn't go because O Vo said

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Speaker 2: I think I think they thought Biggs was gonna beat

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Speaker 1: He was gonna beat big brother. What we're for.

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Speaker 3: This is why I'm glad I'm here because I want

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Speaker 3: I want to know we got beef with Drake because

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Speaker 2: Don't think on Drizzy. I'm not saying you should it

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Speaker 3: He did it. He came back and made hits. That's

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Speaker 3: I mean that year he said rappers from oh five

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Speaker 3: Trying to be the best and anybody coming in that spot,

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Speaker 4: Why would niggs up with you?

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Speaker 1: That's internet ship. That's why I said.

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Speaker 3: No, it's yeah, listen, we never had beef for nobody though.

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Speaker 2: Well it was just remember we don't start no, no, no no,

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Speaker 2: but you don't got to start trouble to both had beef.

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Speaker 2: There's been beef for Rockefeller, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: That as beef though, but when it's really up.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about that's about rapper beef, real like families

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Speaker 2: So it's social media, which is why Jay being able

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Speaker 1: He's washed, he's old, he doesn't watch influence exact.

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Speaker 2: So that's why at that moment was the epitome of

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Speaker 3: And you said that the Internet and not a real

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Speaker 4: Nobody ain't never say your drake. They come up yo drizzy.

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Speaker 2: No no, they say, they say that's that was the whole

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Speaker 1: But the thing is this interview, that's what they claim.

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Speaker 1: What was my stance on the whole battles because.

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Speaker 4: This is my thing.

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Speaker 3: Right even if you did get that interview, like I

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Speaker 3: I gotta go for time, Perry Oprah. You can't go

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Speaker 3: in there if you got this episode, could come after

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Speaker 3: the Drake episode. No, it ain't no matter, but the

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Speaker 3: number right right, that's the difference. So I want to

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Speaker 3: throw another rap in there. They diss me too. Ships

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Speaker 3: smoky out here right now.

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Speaker 1: Very smoky. Also like maybe I'm a bad friend. Just

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Speaker 1: because my friends started podcast doesn't mean that I now

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Speaker 4: Yo.

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Speaker 1: Know, if that's the case of anyone who holds life

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Speaker 3: Show and they don't want that conversation. I don't want

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Speaker 1: Nah, it's a lot of ship you want to run

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Speaker 3: I've run this ship into the world. Right if whole

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Speaker 3: sit there, he gonna tell him, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Bro It's gonna be put in to perspective.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, no, chill, I've run this ship over there.

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Speaker 3: Let me run this ship now.

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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of the a lot of

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Speaker 2: I tell people all the time. Jay is not beefing

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's paying nobody attention.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm like everything, he sees everything. Try to give

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Speaker 1: y'all some pushback, which you mean nobody could beef with

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Speaker 1: jay Z. I've heard him reply, what's about rape?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could reply his whole career to everybody today

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Speaker 1: he just went on roots and mind you, people have

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Speaker 1: every right to reply. But don't you can't say that

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Speaker 2: I'm saying beef meaning like that Roots picnic thing was

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Speaker 2: him responding to years years of not rapper ship, years

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Speaker 2: the whole Tony Buzzby ship. He's selling out, selling out

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Speaker 1: A rapper set about that. That's what I'm speaking about.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was replying to Drake bar from well,

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Speaker 1: Drake would be the only one.

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Speaker 3: This is my thing though everybody took shots for years

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Speaker 3: and years and years and got one shot back and

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's insane to me.

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Speaker 1: We knew at Roots. We were all sitting there before

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Speaker 1: I allegedly got kicked out. We was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: Jay just gave According to the Internet, I got kicked

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Speaker 1: out the Roots over there kicked apparently. Apparently apparently Jay

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Speaker 1: came to the Duce Riser and said, your friends with

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Speaker 1: Drake get out. This is what Tasha k put out

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Speaker 1: to the World League.

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Speaker 4: Yo ship, that can't they can't.

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Speaker 1: That's real, that's real. Yes, she did like a whole

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Speaker 1: stream one and everything.

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Speaker 3: But in between you know what to do say like

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Speaker 3: And me, I like these people man like it's entertainment,

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Speaker 4: Without seeing it. Yeah, but then you need the Inquirer.

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Speaker 3: We get the Member, you get the daily News, you

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Speaker 4: And it's like, yeah, it's the inquire Section.

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Speaker 1: Right, even in Philadelphia, I wasn't even there. I was

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta laugh at that ship. Well, how

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Speaker 1: was a performing Roots Picnic? Because that that have been

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Speaker 1: a little minute since you Yes, yo with Jay, It's

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know, I get up.

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Speaker 3: That's why he want me on stage. He running from

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Speaker 3: the Yeah, like we're gonna try to burn me set

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Speaker 3: up the versus man, It's like, God, fuck that one verse,

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Speaker 4: Yeah so but nah the verse.

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Speaker 3: I mean, fucking Roots Picnic was dope just to be

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Speaker 3: When I went to the rehearsal and saw the set list,

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Speaker 4: One joint up there?

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Speaker 1: Who Guru? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And then when I read the rest of the set

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Speaker 3: this Philly. Let them shine like I told them, how

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Speaker 1: What was like rehearsals like seeing seeing all the guys together,

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Speaker 3: Like one big movie man cartoon again, everybody back together, laughing,

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Speaker 4: Tell me why he ain't come to my part.

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Speaker 1: I've been looking for He was ducking me come to

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Speaker 4: I forgot what he told me. He said. I hollered

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Speaker 3: So you ain't come to holler at me because me

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Speaker 1: But that's my bros.

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Speaker 4: You know what it was like.

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Speaker 3: It was almost like being adults on a hard knocked

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Speaker 3: life to again, that's what it felt like one night

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You know you and Beans talk about the album that

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Speaker 4: Listen right, i'ma be honest. Beans gonna be mad at me.

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Speaker 3: He gonna call me, But that's my dog right at

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Speaker 3: the roots picnic I told Jay, I said, Yo, we

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Speaker 3: need to do five song EP, you know, just on

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Speaker 3: some rock. She he like, yeah, make it happen. If

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Speaker 3: niggas ain't got five verses, I don't want his ship.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, no, I got five? You know, beans

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Speaker 3: with up free?

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Speaker 1: What up?

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Speaker 4: Anybody like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Bank sent us a five pack. Matter of fact, Bank

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Speaker 3: sent us ten beats, you know what I mean, versus

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Speaker 3: we laid.

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Speaker 1: Zero. So wait, but what happened? Niggas ain't have verses?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: Didn't this happen before? One time when y'all was together

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Speaker 1: And none of y'all went to studio.

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Speaker 4: That's what Chris said. He said, we all went to

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Speaker 1: H Well, I mean, I mean, I get yo, gonna

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Speaker 3: But the Roots picnic I don't know why we didn't

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Speaker 3: We went to the freeway, got the studio in Philly.

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Speaker 3: We went freeways playing music. I played music, beings playing music.

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Speaker 3: It's just timing. Like I believe, everybody focused on their

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Speaker 3: I don't last thing you want to do is force. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be real, it's.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna sound good. I mean it's cool that jay

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Speaker 1: Z to open like to Yo plenty five records instead

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Speaker 3: That's why when we came to New York, it was like, oh, bleek,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna let this slip. Let's get one. Like

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Speaker 3: you said, how many more chances of this? You're gonna

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Speaker 1: I just think that was the culmination of like again,

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Speaker 1: I just where where does Jake go from that president?

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Speaker 1: We want the White House dog luls of republic anymore?

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Speaker 3: For he definitely voting then because they fucking ship up

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Speaker 3: right there. They got shit twisted out here gas high.

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Speaker 3: We had war, real war, that ex war.

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Speaker 1: It's real war. You don't think Jay will be a

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Speaker 1: republican black black republic.

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Speaker 3: That's because he might have saved taxes that year wreckage.

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Speaker 1: You want to say every year version of Black Democrats.

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Speaker 1: That was my favorite freet Yo.

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Speaker 4: Pap is super nice.

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Speaker 1: I love in front of the nights.

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Speaker 3: He don't get the credit he deserved. Man, that is

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Speaker 3: super nice. That is great one of them dudes.

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Speaker 4: Have your ship together. You getting on the record with him?

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Speaker 1: No, for sure? So night one reason with doubt Yankee

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Speaker 1: Stadium in rehearsals, did you know that your favorite one?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm on stage, Okay, I prefer that night coming

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Speaker 3: age and for me it's significant because it's it's what

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Speaker 3: we prayed for.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, when you're living in the moment,

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Speaker 3: you don't really get to reflect on the journey.

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Speaker 4: That night was the was like now.

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Speaker 3: They say you see your life flashed before your eyes,

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Speaker 3: oh shit, remembering the baskets we was wrapping up the

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Speaker 3: Davis talent shows, Wednesday Mad Wednesdays, Remembering all of those days,

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Speaker 3: Dang or Original Flavor, all that shit just played in

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Speaker 3: my mind. It was like, Yo, it's crazy, like thirty

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Speaker 3: years ago, this is what we prayed for, and now

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Speaker 3: is it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt so.

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Speaker 2: At the time, at the time when Reasonable that was

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Speaker 2: Stadium sold out would be a thing like in that moment,

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Speaker 2: because when you listen to Reasonable Now now in ninety six,

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Speaker 2: everything that Jay was rapping about, the music, everything was

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Speaker 2: these people in the stands, like what is that?

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Speaker 1: What is that feeling like when you.

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Speaker 2: Think back to young Bleak and Marshy and where Bleak

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Speaker 3: Just like what you said with the fans man, I

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Speaker 3: didn't even understand the album, like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: certain shit on that album I'm doing now and be like,

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Speaker 3: hold on, sing was talking about this shit thirty years ago?

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Speaker 4: What the fuck like?

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Speaker 3: And I just figured it out so like Jay always

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Speaker 3: because it felt like when everybody was doing this. He

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Speaker 3: it's like he always been ahead of the game, and

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Speaker 3: I want to say a fan because they wasn't famous

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Speaker 3: and we grew up together, so it's hard to be

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Speaker 4: It's like inspiring, like, h that's somebody.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: When I get older, I hope I'm living like that.

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Speaker 3: I hope I got my team like that. And you know,

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Speaker 3: and for him to rip a piece of paper out

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Speaker 3: of a notebook and tell me, as fast as you

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Speaker 3: remember this, this rhyme is as fast as your life change.

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Speaker 3: Thirty years later, we on Yankee Stadium stage, looking at

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Speaker 3: Niggazi and sardines out the can. Today Nigga, we getting

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Speaker 1: You heard right fly to chef in Yeah, it's a difference.

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Speaker 1: How much different with your life have been if Shahem

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Speaker 4: I'd probably be in sardines.

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Speaker 1: Going back thirty years, do you remember I mean obviously

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Speaker 1: Jed features and like a few records out, but do

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Speaker 1: you remember when he was like bleak, I'm working on

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Speaker 1: Because he's always talked about he really didn't take rap seriously.

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Speaker 4: Beginning got to remember, I'm little Bro.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a lot of people think I was part

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Speaker 3: I was the if they had a third stringer, I

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Speaker 3: doing we get you when we need you. They can

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Speaker 3: go in the crib. We higher at you going to

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Speaker 3: black do what you do. It was that type of relationship.

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Speaker 3: So I used to have to steal records, like because

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Speaker 3: let me get this CD.

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Speaker 4: Go to the hood, play this for the homies.

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Speaker 3: I remember I got a call, they got a call

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Speaker 3: in j and b hide and not throwing my talk.

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Speaker 3: It was like, yo, we heard you down here burning

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Speaker 3: niggas copies of the record.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, a, who told you that?

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Speaker 3: And they bought one of my right hand man standing

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Speaker 3: there like they was the fans like bleak, tell of

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00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 3: you did?

442
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 1: They got got us? And I'm looking at him like, fair,

443
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: you got yo? They just cut a nigga here man

444
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 1: right handed? You bring your man to the door. He's like, no, fair,

445
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 1: I think I gave you the copy on some lotion

446
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: and you radic your copy right said, bleed the evils

447
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: on it too. I thought I got. I thought I

448
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: was out the whip for that one. I was like,

449
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: I fucked up. I can't take no song on the.

450
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: The whole way like this, your son, you talk to you,

451
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 3: you know that's the prep you living with moms, then

452
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 3: you invite niggas and niggas like now.

453
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 1: Come in the hallway and come out. That's come in

454
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 1: the hallway with you. You don't know that's house. That's

455
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 1: just serious. You knew something was uping that's not regular

456
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 1: in your mom's house.

457
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 3: You come up side real quick like the homie, hide

458
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,719
Speaker 3: and behind the elevator wall waiting for me to say, now, yeah, yo,

459
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: it was us.

460
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: What So this was before he asked you get on

461
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: coming to age.

462
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: I was on coming to age already, but it was

463
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: other records made that they were playing. I'm like, what

464
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 3: the fuck is this? What's that? So when d Evils

465
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 3: was like, Nigga, this's that ship. I gotta play this

466
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: for the hole. There's no way niggas can't hear this,

467
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 3: Like you know how it felt to be doing coming

468
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: to age one, coming to age two. You go to

469
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 3: the hood, you tell niggas you I just did records

470
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 3: with whole niggas.

471
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: Like me hear it, like yeah, I can't believe it's

472
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: till it come out.

473
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 3: Copy here in the studio because I stole the evil,

474
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 3: they never gave me copies or no other records until

475
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 3: I started making my own record.

476
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: They used to tell niggas, don't burn the CD for blee.

477
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna take that ship right there bootlegging early. I

478
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: did that with.

479
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: We was in when we was in Baseline, when J

480
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: did P S A and I remember I got like

481
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: I had to take I took the train to D

482
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: train back uptown and I got to the block. I said,

483
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: my nigga, this nigga J got a W record, and

484
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 2: niggas is like, where's that. I'm like, I don't got it.

485
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 1: But when when niggas heard ps A for the first time,

486
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: they was like, oh, yeah, it's right, it's over.

487
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it was. Man like that shit was

488
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: like real secretive back then. You know how many engineers

489
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: got they hag chopped, Like for sure you have a graide,

490
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: you had a blowoutigad you with the clippers?

491
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: You did? What? What?

492
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 3: What?

493
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

494
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: Do you feel like because you got on legendary rap

495
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 2: versus legendary rap records with guys like Sauce Money Jean Ja, Like,

496
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 2: do you feel like you get the credit you deserve

497
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 2: for just being able to hold your own with those

498
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: type of mcs and rappers, because not everybody can step

499
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: in the circle with a Sauce Money jay Z being

500
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: a young beans jazz o and really hold your own.

501
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: I definitely don't, But I love when they don't give

502
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: me the credit because the ones who feel like they

503
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: can compete don't want to compete. I tell all these guys,

504
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: I just hit Swiss yesterday. Swiss was hit me telling me, yo,

505
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: we see what's going on. We watch it like you

506
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 3: ready for the versus shit, and I'm like, I'm ready

507
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: for it for whoever. There's no target, whoever, you can

508
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: pick the opponent. Like that's how confident I am and

509
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: what I did over the years. And it's like people

510
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: don't remember. They don't remember, they don't give me the credit.

511
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 3: And like you said, rhyming behind Jay and Beans is

512
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: a task in itself.

513
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 4: You know how it felt to go in the.

514
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: Studio on you meet him and her hair hold like

515
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: Nigga knocked a horse off your polo sweater?

516
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: Like what the fuck am I supposed to say after this?

517
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: Like huh?

518
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: Like it was like I had to rhyme after that.

519
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: Then you're bringing up Sauce money, Like come on, man,

520
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 3: Sauce was just like the ultimate like it was times.

521
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 3: The way I felt like he made j better like

522
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: Sauce was was was. I remember when I was in

523
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: the projects one day with Sauce and thinking, man, you

524
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: not that nice, Nigga, I want your spot because remember

525
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: Sauce was the next up in line on the rock

526
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: or beings everybody or me. I don't know what happened

527
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: between him and Jay or how I skipped the line,

528
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 3: but Sauce was supposed to be the next stup. I

529
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: let him tell his story because I don't even know

530
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: what to tell it. But I remember I tried to

531
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: take that spot, like nigga, you can't fuck with me.

532
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm new, young nigga.

533
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: What up?

534
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 3: And the projects had all my niggas with me ready

535
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: to rhyme. He like, all right, let me hear something.

536
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: I spit that niggas spit like six lines and I

537
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 3: just remember the one line. Niggas so niggas thought they

538
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 3: was Chinese the way they duck Sauce. Listen, I'm like ian,

539
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: I said what I called me when you got niggas

540
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 3: need me you feel me?

541
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: It was like the fuck?

542
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: Who I thought I was flaying with you. That's like

543
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 3: they get you ready for the bully. They can hit

544
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: you like wait, I see stars g I right with

545
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: you for free.

546
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: Don't give me another piece of paper. Let me practiced.

547
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: What do they take you? Seriously, though, at that point.

548
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: I felt like when Beans came around. When Beans came

549
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: around the way everything shifted and was on him that

550
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, niggas, even my home team is

551
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: sleeping on me, like they don't think I got it.

552
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: So when me and Lenny just winning made coming to

553
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: Age the album and we turned it in and it

554
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: came out like that, and I skipped the line like,

555
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: oh first we were dropping this before everything. It was

556
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: like they're not earned the respect off coming to age

557
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: the myth bleak is what you think of that Regular

558
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: Cat and it's like, oh my god, I'm mad I

559
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: never shot a video for that.

560
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: I was about to say, why you ain't never shoot

561
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: a video for regular.

562
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 4: Cat because I ain't control the budgets.

563
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: And that record was that was the one.

564
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 4: And all I cared about back then.

565
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna cap I was the major thirty body

566
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: about the video.

567
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: Girls like why y'all bought them? Yeah? Yeah? That was

568
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: that was That was a day to remember. Are you

569
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: kidding me? He was on that I had pulled up late.

570
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: They was wrapping up, but it was arrows everywhere.

571
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: Like Bleek Bleek was like at one point it was

572
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: like all the c girls in the hood. They was

573
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: like yo, bleak blok And I was like, hey, oh

574
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: they really like blocking because Jay was like, you're not

575
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: gonna even see j like you y'all don't have a

576
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: chance to even have a conversation with Jake.

577
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: You would see that nigga.

578
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: Right there in the middle, right, I'm walking the stream right,

579
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: I used to be. It was like them behind the

580
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: velvet rope on the opposite side. When we do it,

581
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I'll be on stage. You're standing at the right on

582
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: Sun Road. That was me and who like are you

583
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: telling them the hotel you better stay at a different one,

584
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: but that's at the.

585
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: Red roof and were gone.

586
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm mad you never shot a video for Regin Cat

587
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: like that record was.

588
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 3: It's a couple of records. I wish that Infatuated that was.

589
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: That was my ringtone, the one related. I should have

590
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: shot that with re read first, got on you know

591
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: what I mean?

592
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: Rest in peace, colleague. We burnt Infatuated down Bro when

593
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: that came out. We burnt that record, me, Colleague Vaughn.

594
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: We used to That's the only song we was playing

595
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: in the city. And you never shot a video. Jesus

596
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Christ wasted. I wasted that one. I got a couple

597
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,639
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Speaker 1: But what happened?

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Speaker 2: What happened with I know that's his sorder to tell,

629
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: but that was one of the figures that I think

630
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: everybody felt because it was it was dope to see

631
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: Jay give Jazz's flowers on stage Niggers Stadium and say,

632
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: you know, this is the guy that's responsible for who

633
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: I am as an MC. And you know you said

634
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: the same about Sauce, like these are the guys who

635
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: he kind of honed his skills with. But like what

636
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: not getting too personal into it, like what happened with Sauce,

637
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: Like why wasn't he there? It may be two persons,

638
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: but like it's him and Jay in the space where

639
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: they even like cordial because for him not to be

640
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: at the Yankee stadium show. I'm not gonna lie to me.

641
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: That was one of the guys that I heard what

642
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: was going to.

643
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: Be there or me?

644
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Bro?

645
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: When now, when we gave rehearsal and I've seen the

646
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: trailers and we all and I see jazz Oo, I'm like, oh, okay,

647
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: I know Sauce here. Then when I go talk to

648
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: Jazz and I'm like, yo, what's up with Sauce? And

649
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 3: he like, you know, certain shit niggas just don't want

650
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: to let go. Bro, Like you know, like certain people

651
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: harbor feel is different than oh yeah, and certain people

652
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: won't but that diret sorry they don't receive it.

653
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: It's like, fuck the world. Maybe that can be him.

654
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

655
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: So this is a very private person, like he never

656
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: really been out talking on the mics and yo, fuck

657
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: this person, so you were really never gonna know. I

658
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: tried to get him to come on the pard but

659
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: somehow him and Norri got some smoke.

660
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: So he's like, nah, fuck you believe me?

661
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a quiet, passive person, but like you said,

662
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: you could be quiet and still have drum.

663
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: And you just tell me.

664
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: Might have said something that he's heard.

665
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 3: He felt like nor did it publicly and apology was

666
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: not behind the scenes.

667
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: He felt like the apology should.

668
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: Be it should it should I'm one of those guys.

669
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: I think the apology definitely sometimes respect this public. Apologies

670
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: sometimes go make the public the apology public. Pull up

671
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: the drink, Chack, pull up the rock solid the way

672
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: I could tell Norri pull up when you hear you

673
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Sometimes everybody not gonna come to

674
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: you. You gotta go take it. And that's what apologies and opportunities.

675
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: What was on? What was that first convo with with

676
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: Jazz like a rehearsals.

677
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: My first convo with Jazz really would not had him

678
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: on the park. Okay, that's my first convo. And it

679
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: was like, man, I feel so bad that we even

680
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: went there with Jazz. Tho, like Jazz was he's the

681
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: og og Like yeah, Like I literally went to Jazz

682
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: for tips on how to write hooks tips or yo,

683
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: when should you put the punchline in the verse? When

684
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: like at what bar should I I think that the

685
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: lis line? And he just like used to give me

686
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: all different tips and pointers on this on how to

687
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: make a song and how to wrap sixteen bars and

688
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: all of this my first studio sessions before coming to Age,

689
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 3: before Lenny as before coming before all of that was

690
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: jazz picking me up in the projects, getting in the card,

691
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: then going to the studio with him and be high,

692
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: and it'll be us in the studio trying to figure

693
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: it out.

694
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: And like it was like man like seeing him.

695
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 3: Now older and it's like, damn, bro, like why we

696
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: ever get into it with you? We like we we

697
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 3: mastered it from the bricks. We never supposed to have

698
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: ever raised the pen on jazz. So if it's anything

699
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: in my career that I regret that, it's like we

700
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: were supposed to disrespect. That's real for sure.

701
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I mean that's why I was happy that

702
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Jay did that on stage, because rarely does Jay give

703
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: like that, that that long of a speech.

704
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: Some jazz desert, some humility, but that without him, none

705
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: of this would be possible. Bro, he saw it before

706
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: we all didn't really shout out the knight.

707
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: He really saw it.

708
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: And we're gonna steal them back because y'all queen's niggas

709
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: take a lot of ship man, and I just want

710
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: to let y'all know niking them is not from queens.

711
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean they all from Massy shirt Kings.

712
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: Is from Massy Project. They got money in Queens.

713
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: It's it's a difference, it's a different we're taking them back.

714
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: The Hypnotic record with you J and Beads, and it

715
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: didn't get clear. Is that any that got clear? It

716
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: was on the album, the original version. No, the original

717
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: didn't get clear. Is there anyway it was there? Is

718
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: that you wait in twenty twenty six, we can get

719
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: that clear?

720
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: I don't think so. That's like the record with Freeway

721
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: Man never got clear? The fuck was that's on night Shift?

722
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: Okay?

723
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 4: Yes, I never got clear?

724
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: Sample shit because I mean I see what Jay's doing now,

725
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: re releasing everything now that he could do it under

726
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: his own imprint. Sample shit.

727
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: Okay, they don't be certain the states.

728
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: That original version Hypnotic is crazy, you.

729
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: Know certain the states You know that shit go off

730
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: like your name? How much money they think they're gonna be.

731
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 3: They think you're gonna waste the record. They get like,

732
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: oh they had rapper Tom Katt, you're not making it

733
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: because what you think of that was like that they

734
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: didn't clear the sample that was supposed to be the

735
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: first single before menth bleak.

736
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: They didn't clear the sample to j put a Verse on.

737
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: It was like, you motherfuckers, were you around when Rockefeller

738
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: was calling mass space cakes? That was, yeah, that was you.

739
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: Were you there when the incident happens, Like we've gotten

740
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: we've gotten his point of view now that the incident happened.

741
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: That I think it was Christmas. It was scared you.

742
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: When everybody like like a week after I went the

743
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: baseline and everybody had heard the story about it.

744
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: And I think Beans is the one that came up

745
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: with the name space which he said in the rap.

746
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: But everybody started calling me that that was the worst

747
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 2: light of my fucking life.

748
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: And those was the fly that Shorty the space Cakes

749
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: was hitting as a short little bullshit.

750
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: It is mad nasty man, fucking what of those.

751
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 5: What?

752
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: What what was early mall swag? Like, like what was

753
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: your early memories of fly?

754
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: You know, Harlem niggas always came through with that extra

755
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: fly like they gotta take your bitch.

756
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: That was not what I was. That wasn't I wouldn't

757
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: be able to y'all niggas was rappers, but still we

758
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: ain't don't rap. So I gotta stand out somehow. I

759
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: gotta be funny. I gotta be fly, I gotta smell good,

760
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: I gotta have a haircut, you gotta do all the

761
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: other shit.

762
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 3: It was a different aura of Harlem though back then,

763
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: like Harlem felt like going out of towns. To me,

764
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: it's being in Brooklyn. Brooklyn, I cannot explain. Like for

765
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: those in Chicago, they would know. Brooklyn is just like Chicago.

766
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: It's no standing outside, like you on your block, you

767
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: chilling you alight?

768
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: Cool shots might.

769
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: Ring down, so y'all better keep a gun in the vicinity.

770
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: That's how it is on Chicago. Like I remember being

771
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: out there. Niggas like yo, the West Side, niggas outside

772
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: on the South Side, niggas ain't outside.

773
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: I can't steal around.

774
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: Nigga might spend that block and blow your ad off.

775
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: So it's like, oh, it's like where I'm from, and

776
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: I like Chicago. But then you go to Harlem and

777
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: dankment anybody outside, black parties, police even enjoying the festivities,

778
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: Like what the fuck going on over here? So it

779
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 3: felt like going to another place. So everybody up there

780
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: fly by talk Spanish. Everybody got Spanish homies. It's like,

781
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: what the fuck are we missing in BK, you know

782
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So they had a different level of

783
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: fly that we felt like, Nah, you think it's ain't

784
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: gonna outflies, You think you're gonna take all our bitches.

785
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 4: Because you got the new ups, you got the new pla.

786
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: So how did you feel the first time Jay brought

787
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: like Bigs Dame, just the whole Harlem crew to Marcy.

788
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: I didn't meet them in Marci.

789
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: I met them on First avenuet Dame Dash on First

790
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: Avenue when he had the crib. I don't know the

791
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: name of that project, that condominium. Yes, he was living

792
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: there on First Avenue. It's so crazy because Diamonds and

793
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: the Rough was living there too. Chicken Rebel was in

794
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 3: the same joint. That's when I first found out about

795
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: uh the Salamean cheese from the corner store. They make

796
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: the ship hot with the grill. Changed my life was like,

797
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 3: the fuck they do up here? They cook this ship

798
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: in the store too, whoa the fuck we gotta bringing

799
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: back to.

800
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: The concept of so hot sandwiches. Wasn't a thing like that,

801
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: not that.

802
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna get a little but the nigga like, yo,

803
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: you want me? They fried on the grill. Hell, you're

804
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: gonna do we.

805
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Cheese deli across from eleven. That's the legendary deli.

806
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the one that invented chopped cheese. Yeah,

807
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: that's when I first got my first salami cheese high

808
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: off the grill, and I never ate a cold saligny.

809
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: It was over like, that's gonna mind me that she

810
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 3: got him. But yeah, so meeting them up there, like

811
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: Dang was chilling.

812
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 6: You know.

813
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: At that time, Dang was managing Original Flavor.

814
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: You know, they had Hooker tone, Hooker ski shout out

815
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: Chubby Chub, I mean Chubby Chuck Diesel Chob. Now he's

816
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: not chubby no more. So you know like that, that

817
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: was that vibe, and it was like Dang was always

818
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: on that. Yo, man, we're gonna take this ship over, niggas,

819
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: listen us. We're gonna kick that dooring fuck. It was

820
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: always that energy and we gotta get it. Bigs was

821
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: laid back, like I'm getting money. I ain't just got

822
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: the play together yet, but I owe Biggs. Bigs guys

823
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: smoke with me and he don't even know it.

824
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: What whatever.

825
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 3: See, I'm married now, so I can't pay him back.

826
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: But I gotta do something, you know, it's like a Frank,

827
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: I gotta do something to get him back.

828
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: Fucking Yo. Listen, you know I has a shorter You.

829
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: Going on the road with the o g's. They give

830
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: you the game, Yo. You let the chick know where

831
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: you stay at. You know, bring it to the hotel.

832
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: You don't go nowhere with the girl, none of that.

833
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm the young nigga fifteen on the road. First time

834
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 3: on the road with these niggas. Now, mind you they

835
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: on twenty four to twenty five big this at the time,

836
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: they was wearing the big bracelet with the they got

837
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: the pinky ring that looked like nigga liver Rotchi. They

838
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: took it from him. They was jeweled up. I had nothing.

839
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: I was naked, man play Jane me nothing. Girl looking

840
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: that me like hey were yutstares. So it's like, wait,

841
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: you are no where I'm stared, got her name everything ready.

842
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, I'm coming back with you. You coming

843
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: back to the hotel with me. So I was over

844
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: like what, oh, I got one the fishing line working.

845
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: It's oh, we got some I go tell bigs cause

846
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: you know your young. He the og next to me,

847
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't got no cat, bunny, I don't know the

848
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: drivers for the car to take me to the hotel.

849
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 3: I'm here consent with y'all, so I have to leave

850
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: when y'all leave. So I tell Biggs, Yo, what time

851
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: we leaving the spot? He's like why, He's like, nah,

852
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: just what.

853
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Time we leaving? Yo? Were about to get out of here,

854
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: like thirty forty?

855
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: Man, I think Jay finished.

856
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: You know we're gonna pop a few bottles and we out,

857
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 3: Like nah, but I got this joint ready to go.

858
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: There said which one?

859
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 3: I pointed out? How over there he went and took

860
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: it and left. Y'all said, So all I did was

861
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: warm it up, warm it out.

862
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: You entertained her until it's time relieved. Yes, over there

863
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: being the major major limit game. Yeah, yeah, you said

864
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: everybody game, you got, every joke you years, you got,

865
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: let that one probably married with kids, moved on. Bleak,

866
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: still turn the night, bleak. He's still like, nah, I

867
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: need my getting.

868
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: That was like the ultimate little bro like, get out

869
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: of here, little man, we got this.

870
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: That was that happened to me. That happened to me

871
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: when we went to All Star Weekend in d C.

872
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: Two thousand and one with Jay, I was wet do there.

873
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: We was at the risk call.

874
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: We stayed at the risk Caulton and I had I

875
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: had a nice one with me. You know, I'm going

876
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: to the I'm in the whole way like your commit

877
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: I go over there and it's like, no, come over

878
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: here with there in the whole way, like but the

879
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: rooms on opposite is. I turn around, all I see

880
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: is Shorty running down the hole with Jay Man. So, nah,

881
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: niggas ain't do this to me. It's in the morning.

882
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: It's for in the morning. Security got the police, got

883
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: the whole block of the hotel lockdown.

884
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: You can't get it nothing, yo.

885
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: You learned early when you met a joint, don't bring

886
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 3: them around just if jam them over there go this

887
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 3: sweat because I've seen girls lose they fucking cool. Remember

888
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: when Foxy had to be there with the big hat.

889
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: I'll never forget this. We're in Texas somewhere Shorty bad

890
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: as a motherfucker sitting on the couch chill.

891
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: It hof k.

892
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: That bitch got up and started crip walking hold.

893
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: On hack like yo. I would never forget this, and

894
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: it just made me lose all. It's like, yeah, I

895
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: thought you was cool.

896
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: And you can't say nothing because then you hated like

897
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: word like jaywalking.

898
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Y'all get real different in here, like why the crip walk?

899
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: I was like we in Texas shut Like how you

900
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: even know that day? I'm telling you we used to

901
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 3: see all kind of ship.

902
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Broo, what a time that?

903
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: It was the best time, man, it was the best.

904
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: How do you feel about because I get asked the questions,

905
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: so I'm throwing it on you now, how do you

906
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: feel about everything going on with Dame right now?

907
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: Man?

908
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 4: I don't feel I don't pay it. I don't indeulge.

909
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: I don't pay a door attention because I got too

910
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: much respect for that man to laugh and look at

911
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: him on whatever.

912
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: I do too. But when he said Biggs bleik, I

913
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I can't like that ship that.

914
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: He don't mean that though, bro, But so I say

915
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: it because you want a response. I think at this

916
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: point it's like us men when we win. The chick

917
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: think you been there before? Girl leaves, she like, I

918
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: ain't talking no more, she ain't picking up that phone.

919
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: It's taking a bitch.

920
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you. I'm just to get real that.

921
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 4: Reaction, just that response. Sometimes I think it's that bro.

922
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, like we it's just to me,

923
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: Dame is doing and saying things that at one point

924
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: he always thought was that's the like why would you

925
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: do that? Why would you say that? That is that's corny?

926
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: That he's the man shouldn't do that.

927
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: It's like he's the definition of everything he preached now.

928
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Right, and it's but it hurts to see it. It's

929
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: it's almost like like damn, Like I want somebody to

930
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: reach out and talk to him, to be like yo,

931
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: like bro, like listen, I don't know what's going on,

932
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: but this is not who you are, or at least

933
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: who we know you to be.

934
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: I believe that's been done, and I just don't believe

935
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: danme receives it the right way. Like a lot of

936
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: people care, a lot of people reach out.

937
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: No.

938
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: I had conversations with Big Face Nori. You know what

939
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: I mean. Dang got kids, they old.

940
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they look at they fuck and go

941
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: have a conversation with him.

942
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

943
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: It's like I don't think Dang listening to no one man.

944
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 3: Dang been the driver of the ship since he started.

945
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna relinquish those keys, you know what

946
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: I mean?

947
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: If I've watched some of the Haven stuff on YouTube,

948
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: and he seems to be in a way different space

949
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: than back in the day on some of that stuff,

950
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: and it seems like he not reaching out per se,

951
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: but seems like he's open to a conversation, whereas the

952
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: Dame thing is kind of lost.

953
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: At that point, Gil is like, it's weird to me

954
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 3: because I see he bringing my name up in certain shit. Now, Yeah,

955
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: like youre fam I was a kid when y'all niggas

956
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: was Marvin.

957
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't. I ain't have nothing to do with that.

958
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: I don't know anything.

959
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: But you know why yah, he say, But no, he

960
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: wants me to speak about it, And it's like, how

961
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: can you speak on something you don't know? All I

962
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: would you was give misinformation or information I heard through

963
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: the grapevine, and that would be wrong on my part

964
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: to do.

965
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 4: So I just don't speak on it. Now. Do I

966
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: know him? Yeah? I know him, But I knew you

967
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 4: as a kid. I don't know you as an adult.

968
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: Last time I probably seen to have a conversation with Gil,

969
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: I probably was twelve, thirteen years old. I'm forty eight

970
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: right now. I don't know him as a man. Is

971
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: my god sister. His sister rested pieces, My godmother rested peace.

972
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: And that's my family. We talked to this day. You

973
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But with him, I never had

974
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: a conversation. I never needed to, Like you, j friend,

975
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: I didn't have nothing to do with that. Hustle My

976
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 3: mind my business, as they would tell me if it

977
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: was back then you'll bleep mind your business.

978
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: That's what I do.

979
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense, that makes sense. I didn't want

980
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: to go through a few records or versus per se

981
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: and you just talk about what the sessions were like,

982
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: starting with one nine hundred hustler, which I've said when

983
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: you aren't here, this isn't cut. I think you have

984
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: the best verse on when I hearded them. What was

985
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: that session like?

986
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: Naw, that that session was super dope because it was

987
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: like we were in there like if you can almost

988
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: bring a comic book to life. That's like you know

989
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: how comic book you read and you see the action,

990
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 3: but then you see the little bubble of what they think.

991
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: That's what it was. It was like all of my thoughts.

992
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 3: And then you tell Bank that's Bank on the phone

993
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: calls doing the Yo man, I got somebody online, y'open

994
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: two chickens and all that, and you know, Beans and

995
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: Jay was the ones thinking about the chorus, Sho, we

996
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: should do this little hustle that it was j Ida,

997
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: it was j I dia we should do the one

998
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: nine hundred hustle like a hot line for hustlers.

999
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: And then Beans was coming to the idea.

1000
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: Yo, but Homie on the phone talking reckless and you know,

1001
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: somebody riffing with him, right, and then they hear it

1002
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: being played down, was like, Yo, you just gotta write

1003
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: a verse bleak online too. What you're gonna tell it?

1004
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 4: Shorty. It was like the.

1005
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: Easiest rhyme I probably ever wrote in my life. And

1006
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: people could say it's like one of the best. That's

1007
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: how I feel about the song. You just bought up hypnotic,

1008
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: Like people say, that's one of my hardest verses too,

1009
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: and it's like, that was the easiest round I wrote.

1010
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: Ye coming to age two specifically because the first one

1011
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: obviously Jay was heavily involved with the first one.

1012
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: Part two two, I didn't Yo.

1013
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: J is a genius man, And this is what I say, Like,

1014
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 3: that's why I never put my hat in the race

1015
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 3: for the top dog, because just off those two records,

1016
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: I'm disqualified on rap rules, I'm disqualified.

1017
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: But you have twenty years a body of worker, right, so.

1018
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: Let it still like if we're gonna do it the others,

1019
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: I do it to myself, I'm not going I respect them.

1020
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: I respect they got to disqualify my soul.

1021
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: So that's why I don't even argue I am about.

1022
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: And while we're quickly here, can you please put to

1023
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 1: rest what Maul and the rest of the Ovo crew

1024
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: have put in the world that Caliko has been writing

1025
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: jaj rimes. That's the funniest Cali man, that's my dog. No,

1026
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: that was getting low records.

1027
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: We need those publishing checks and he wrote them all the.

1028
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: Black album according to the Ovo Internet, we need those

1029
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: pop checks. That's crazy. But you distributed like that whole

1030
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: little doc they tried to do where Calico Rolle.

1031
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Stajor Black. They put the clips in the

1032
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: everything else in there with you.

1033
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: The culprit. They said that hard drive that's like every

1034
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: hard drive in every studio, the one you was holding

1035
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: that was Calico's Black album that then you passed off

1036
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: to ja.

1037
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 4: Ooh, I'm that niggas.

1038
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: I liked it. Then that detective they detect this shit.

1039
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: They zoomeding on you holding the hard drive and was like,

1040
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: we got.

1041
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: Them, and that was the clear hard drive. I remember.

1042
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: I think it was the Lazy Orange Jee.

1043
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that that picture. That's me holding the

1044
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: hard drive, mad that this shit ain't worked, and we're

1045
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: trying to go to the place and they had a

1046
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: spot in the city that used to recover all the

1047
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: shit off your hard drive, so you had to have

1048
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: the one and the other day together. So we was

1049
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: actually going to recover the hard drive because she had crashed.

1050
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: Because I was teaching all of them back then. This

1051
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: is when pro tooths came out. When we was using

1052
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: it on a laptop. We were setting anywhere and record.

1053
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 3: So that's why you will always see every picture see

1054
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 3: Cali and it's a mic, a laptop, a hard drive

1055
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: because him proof geter k them boys know how to record.

1056
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: They can operate and run a studio right now if

1057
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 3: they wanted to, because like we taught all our artists

1058
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: how to be the bosses of their own career too.

1059
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: That you didn't wait for engineer, you didn't wait for

1060
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: studio time. You go do what you want to do

1061
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: when you want to do it, and for them to

1062
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: dig up all these years later to say Cali wrote

1063
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: for j is like whoa I know he said somewhere

1064
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: like niggaw, you.

1065
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: Fucking getting me? Like what kind of one?

1066
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: Like?

1067
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1068
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 3: Like CALLI a good dude? Man, I know he he's

1069
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: not one of those guys that's celebrating this, like man,

1070
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: such a good dude. He ain't with that, he's super nice,

1071
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: just never you know, a lot of guys at that time,

1072
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: I felt like Rockefeller were moving so fast that a

1073
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: lot of people missed opportunities or didn't get the opportunity

1074
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 3: they deserve.

1075
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1076
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: I mean, what was baseline like in that sense where

1077
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: you had all the state proper which they propably grew

1078
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: every boxing gloves like seven of them, and then you

1079
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: got all of get low Like I'm sure that must

1080
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: have been. How do you even get pass to the

1081
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: microphone with anxiety? People?

1082
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: Every day?

1083
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: You know, we had first of all, every day everybody

1084
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 3: ain't getting along every day niggas fighting like you said

1085
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: studio time you in there, bullshit would beat you bullshit

1086
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 3: with bars, waste the time they get the funk out

1087
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: the booth, so excuse me, O g one and then

1088
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 3: bought boxing gloves for niggas that want bullshit you won't

1089
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: get off your chest. And remember we had the big

1090
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: booth where it was the glass where you watch niggas

1091
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: when you get.

1092
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: Your ship off. Why did you care for that? Niggas?

1093
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 3: Was a lot of niggas was on the floor like

1094
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 3: this looking the glass like.

1095
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 1: We don't have to know who lost, who got busy

1096
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: the most, Who is the better fighter? You know who?

1097
00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: Out of a shocking who got hands man Sparks? Sparks

1098
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: fucked a few niggas up in that Boothgas, I wanta

1099
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: fight zoo.

1100
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: He got in there, Yo.

1101
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: The first time I remember in Baseline seeing Kanye, and

1102
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: I remember everybody in there was just talking about the

1103
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: way he was dressed.

1104
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: He had on like a motorcycle leather. He had on

1105
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: some Drago bootsferent.

1106
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 2: And everybody was like, yo, who is And then once

1107
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: we went in the b room and started listening to

1108
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: the beats. I remember Jay walked in, was like, yo,

1109
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: who is that he was like yea, that's hold me

1110
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: in the front and the pool room and going to

1111
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: the front and he in there, and it's like it

1112
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: didn't match, Like wait, he's making all of this heat

1113
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: and I tell you all the time, like Yo, when

1114
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: Ya first came around, it was like he was such

1115
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: an out outside because he looked different, he talked different,

1116
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: he dressed different. But when he started playing that music,

1117
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: he became I remember seeing everything in baseline.

1118
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: Change like Kanye. Man.

1119
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: I can honestly say, man, where Kanye got to his

1120
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: career and where he at, that's the definition and the

1121
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: results of a man who don't take no like y'all

1122
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: Nigga said no fuck y'all watched this. That's that sure

1123
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 3: desire and will to win and never quit and never

1124
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: listen to what nobody got to say. Because back then

1125
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: people was not even checking for his raps. It just

1126
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 3: with the beats. He was making beats and shits. Everything

1127
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: he made and played was phenomenal, Like oh shit, that's

1128
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 3: why if you think I probably got one Kanye beat

1129
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 3: out of them years in baseline, because everybody was on him,

1130
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: he didn't had a chance to breathe. So then when

1131
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: he got to the point and he started playing music.

1132
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 3: I was one of the only niggas in there listening, like, Yo,

1133
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: my g you're gonna be one of them greats nigga,

1134
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna take this shot over. So the difference in

1135
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: Kanye see is that weird in this business only mean

1136
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: two things. You either gonna fucking win and win a lot.

1137
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: Because all the weirdos and we consider different. That's how

1138
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: can we say they wear and they were, they probably weird,

1139
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, everybody look at ushm

1140
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 3: fucking weirdose, you know what I'm saying, Like, but they

1141
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: win because in their mind, they they already know they

1142
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: got the plan what they want to do. Where us,

1143
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: we're so cool, bro, we think we got it and

1144
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: it's like we don't plan. We just go off the

1145
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: cool factor. Where the guy like that, that shit is

1146
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: written down in the attic and you know exactly every

1147
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: step he wanted to take and he did it. But

1148
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: that's how like Jay is the coolest weird to me

1149
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: because I ain't gonna wear it as a motherfucker too, Jay.

1150
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 4: For them to be like that up, they gotta have a.

1151
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: Little bit successful to be a little got it, like

1152
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: my nigga.

1153
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 3: I watched this nigga write a whole song in a

1154
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: limo to the airport from that bar.

1155
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: All right perspective, Barcley Center, JFK.

1156
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 3: It's about a fifteen minute it wrote a whole song,

1157
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: canceled the flag, and went back Jay's studio.

1158
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rest of us, it's like an hour.

1159
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, Jay fenteen minutes. Yeah.

1160
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: But to drive that's like we're in the limo going

1161
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: to JFK. He'd be playing. We get the JFK, YO

1162
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 3: call in and cancel the flag, Yo, book studio time.

1163
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 3: I gotta lay this song, and then we turn around,

1164
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: go to the studio, lays song, and Babyface come through

1165
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: the hook.

1166
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, that's not fucking normal.

1167
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not normal. I thought we was that way

1168
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: to Houston.

1169
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: But Jay's process of writing, obviously being privileged enough to

1170
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: experience and see it, you don't know he's writing until

1171
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: he leaves out the room and goes in the book.

1172
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: You're like oh, because the whole time you think he's

1173
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: staring at you and you're trying to figure out, like

1174
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: what I did here, like like yeah, yeah, you think

1175
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: he asked you something.

1176
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: You didn't hear him.

1177
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: You like, huh, and he like the wave you off

1178
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: and he turned the other way and look and then

1179
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: he go in the corner and and then just open

1180
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: the door doing the booth.

1181
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: And that's when it hit you, like.

1182
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: Oh he was in here writing like ell like I

1183
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: tried that when I fell off, Yeah I did. I

1184
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: gotta keep it real, man, like people listen to coming

1185
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 3: in and understanding and like a ship. When we went

1186
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 3: to five three four and and made it was like,

1187
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: I think I'm hope that I don't like before we

1188
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: think this ship I like, I like before, but they

1189
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: don't bang like the first and then now pumit three D.

1190
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: I backed up. I ain't hold that's why they like.

1191
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: But that was the problem that era, Like when Jay

1192
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: would say I don't write nothing down like all right cool.

1193
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: Then other rappers started saying, like, we could tell you

1194
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: should probably like you should probably write something.

1195
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: Why y'a ain't tell me that, right, he shity, y'all

1196
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: could have kept it real normal, yo, we can tell

1197
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 3: you ain't write that.

1198
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that should sound like you freestyle something.

1199
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.

1200
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 2: It's just it's just crazy for somebody to have that

1201
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: ability to do that and just be that successful, like

1202
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: you know over these people here, Like what you mean

1203
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: he don't write, bro, he does not put pen to paper.

1204
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 4: Nope.

1205
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: Like it's just like he'll and then won't. It's not

1206
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: like he going there and it's like fuck up, he'll

1207
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 1: spit it all the way through one take.

1208
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 3: Ho, come back out, let's clear out. I ain't gonna

1209
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: do ad libs, right, which is just one take? Yeah,

1210
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: like everybody else doubled a verse ad lib they could

1211
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: do one take. That's it, yeah, and that shit sound

1212
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 3: like that man, that's that's yeah, that's not yeah, that's

1213
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 3: not normal.

1214
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: What's what's the fastest y'all have seen him?

1215
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 4: Right?

1216
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: But what record that we know? The fastest that I

1217
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: can remember?

1218
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: It was something on the Black album, I think, and

1219
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't, and I might be overspeaking because I don't.

1220
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 2: He may have had some ship in his head already,

1221
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: but we was in the studio for no longer than

1222
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes and he went in the move and laid

1223
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: some shit, and I was just like, there's no way

1224
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: this nigga just wrote that in his head.

1225
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: You remember what record it was because it wasn't fit

1226
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: to black. There was songs that didn't make it. You

1227
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: could tell, like, all right, this is I think it

1228
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: was a lure. I think it was something on the

1229
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: lore of the joints man. Yeah, my fastest. Of course,

1230
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: the sunshineuse. Like I said, that record happened.

1231
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 3: They're supposed to go to Houston and then hey, Poppy, okay,

1232
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: cause Bill was supposed to meet us in the studio

1233
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 3: and do the third verse. So when I came to

1234
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: the studio, his verse and the hook was already done.

1235
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: He like, bleak, do a verse. A mil gonna do

1236
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 3: the third verse. So I'm like, all right, cool, fuck it,

1237
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: let me do my verse. Lay my verse. He said,

1238
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: a mil not coming. I got the third verse. When

1239
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: the fuck I just was saying, right my shit. Like

1240
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: when you got your verse, eat out it. You're like, Yo,

1241
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: she not coming down. I got it. It's like, okay,

1242
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: when you got it, yo telling you?

1243
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, that nigga is different. Man, Like

1244
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: a musician, is there anybody?

1245
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: Is there any artists back then or producers that you

1246
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: wanted to work with that you never got the opportunity

1247
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: to work with produce artists and producers.

1248
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 3: I say, like top three producers I wanted to work

1249
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: with I never got to work with. Of course, you

1250
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 3: ain't gonna say Doctor Dre. Every artist wanted to beat

1251
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: from Doctor Dre. It's like a dream, you know what

1252
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: I mean. Then like number two, I would say, gotta

1253
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: be Many Fresh one of the many Fresh beat for sure.

1254
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: M h Actually a bleak many Fresh song does make the.

1255
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: Word many Fresh? Was that nigga too?

1256
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 3: And then you're gonna hate me because I'll be fucking

1257
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 3: up nigga's names once my man who did Rubber band

1258
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: Man for t.

1259
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: I h oh, so David Banner, Okay, so.

1260
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying a lot of people don't know David band

1261
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: of Production. Yeah, they were serious. So he's another one

1262
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 3: of those producers that I was like, Oh, I'd love

1263
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: to work with him too, you know what I mean.

1264
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 3: And he's a good dude, that's my guy. Like conversations

1265
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 3: with him, very great guy.

1266
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought just around right, It was just no Guru.

1267
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 4: Did Guru brought Just Blaze? Yes? I didn't bring him well,

1268
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: CO signed him coming shout out lau Real.

1269
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: She was managing engineers at the time and one of

1270
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 3: my engineers was he called down and she was like,

1271
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 3: I got a new engineer from DC just got down here.

1272
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 3: I just started managing them like he smoked weed. Yep,

1273
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: send them income, Guru, fucking low Yoda?

1274
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: Was that all that's crazy, that's crazy? Yeah, Yoda was

1275
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: that that's crazy, Guru? What was like early, just like

1276
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: at that time.

1277
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: The same as now fucking big game up. You gotta

1278
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: go just out there out the front playing Call of Duty,

1279
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 3: Zelder and all type of other shit. You know kids

1280
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: who played Zelda was always gonna be super.

1281
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: Smooth, absolutely like, yeah, you're playing what exactly I'm on.

1282
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: Jocks and now you gotta go to Japan handcuffed. Just

1283
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 3: bring his ass back like a federal agent. Get over here.

1284
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: You're getting extra daty back to America.

1285
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: Remember just had all the two way alerts.

1286
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 3: Yo used to make beats. Yeah, he made his own

1287
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 3: beats for the two whee alerts.

1288
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: Insane, bro, Yeah, crazy, I mean says obviously you grew

1289
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: up in the same building as the entire family. The

1290
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: first time you heard the last verse of You Must

1291
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: Love Me about Jay in a situation where his brother,

1292
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: what was your response to Jay, Like, Dan, are you

1293
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: really about to talk about this, It was.

1294
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: Like, Yo, you know you hear Pop say the really

1295
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: ship I Ever wrote? I can honestly say that might

1296
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: be the really ship.

1297
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 4: Jay Ever rope.

1298
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite verses of.

1299
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: Me because it's one hundred percent all the way fat,

1300
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, The cousins and all

1301
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 3: that might be hypothetical where he changed a man to

1302
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: a female, but the story is still one hundred percent facts. Yeah,

1303
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 3: that song, my favorite J song in my favorite street

1304
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 3: record in hip hop period of streets is watching.

1305
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 4: They don't get no better than that. That's top tier.

1306
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 3: Literally, I'm knee deep in the game, and I'm gonna

1307
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: tell you the fears and of the hustlers mentality. If

1308
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 3: any nigga who hustled, I'm going for you sell fireworks

1309
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: or you sell spymats. If you hustling, you can relate

1310
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: to that song. It's one of the only songs that

1311
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: got four verses. Yeah, sit, three verses these days is.

1312
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: Not normal anymore. How much of the movie Were You

1313
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: Around for the Streets?

1314
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 4: Is watching? Yeah, I know a lot. It's not like

1315
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 4: a strip sing him and source money.

1316
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: They leave me out for those videos, Like I remember

1317
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 3: watching the movie like wait, wait when you shot this?

1318
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: When did you have fifty? But I couldn't get the

1319
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: call for that. Yeah yeah, what what was like the

1320
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: production of that movie? Like like justind the scenes every

1321
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: day shooting that souse. I mean to me, that's one

1322
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: of the It's the best rap movie shot original new.

1323
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 3: Hype Williams Abdul, that was our real hype Williams. Like

1324
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: he was the guy who had a lot of vision

1325
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: before vision became the thing. Like you know, I feel

1326
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: like back then he was like what the Robin townsends

1327
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: of the music industry with videos like he shot a

1328
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: visionary for sure.

1329
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 4: I mean like all.

1330
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: Those all the beginning career videos of Jay that president,

1331
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 3: all the in my lifetime remixed through my lifetime one

1332
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: when they went the same times me on the speed book.

1333
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 3: Last Malik Abdul even the streets is watching and he

1334
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 3: shot state property. You know what I'm saying, Like he's

1335
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 3: that guy, and I don't think he get enough credit,

1336
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: like a lot of the guys in the industry. So

1337
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 3: back then seeing them do it and it was no label.

1338
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: There's no label funding this shit. This shit was funded

1339
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: by the corner of New York City, Like straight out,

1340
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 3: like the fun ran out.

1341
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 4: Somebody gotta go stand all that.

1342
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: Block and get the fun back up and were gonna

1343
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,959
Speaker 3: shoot tomorrow. So seeing that and back then, I didn't

1344
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 3: understand it, but come being where I am now and

1345
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 3: looking back, it was like, not only was he ahead

1346
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 3: of his time, but Dame and Jay and all of

1347
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 3: them was too man because to put a movie, to

1348
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 3: know that the fans didn't understand your music right, and

1349
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 3: to put it in movie formatt we're still videos, but

1350
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 3: it flows like a movie and feels like a movie.

1351
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 4: It's never I don't think it could be done again.

1352
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 3: Nobody album even that solid a whole movie or your ship.

1353
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: We have to leave some songs out. Some have tried,

1354
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: but it didn't land this.

1355
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah they put the wax on.

1356
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, was there any thoughts of Jay

1357
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: like not acting because I don't know Jay like that,

1358
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: but he's cool when laid back like Dame, I'm sure

1359
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: was like I'll act, I got you. But Jay doing that?

1360
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: Did anyone have to talk him into like, Yo, you're

1361
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: gonna lead a whole movie. Of course it's music videos,

1362
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: but you acting through this whole ship?

1363
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I knew, he knew what

1364
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: he needed to do. You know what I'm saying.

1365
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 3: When you have a goal and you want to accomplish something,

1366
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 3: you don't need coaching, You just need direction.

1367
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 4: You need to target.

1368
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: True. Yeah right, I hear that. We want to get

1369
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: into some boys mouth on our show, we have listeners

1370
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: call in and tell stories, ask questions, and it's specific

1371
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: for you. We let our fans knowing Patreon, that you

1372
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: would come by, so we got some bleak questions.

1373
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: See hope we ain't getting no personal Hey, blieve you

1374
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: remember me.

1375
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 1: From Hey, I'm the girl that Biggs took from you.

1376
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: I just want to say she was a human being.

1377
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: You don't need to carry this anymore. You've got mail.

1378
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 6: What up, guys, This is Darius. I am calling from

1379
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 6: Charlotte and my question flash topic regarding reasonable doubt. It's

1380
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 6: around the two versions of the Presidents, which for me,

1381
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 6: my personal favorite and the one that when I hear

1382
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 6: the beat, my mind of faults to part one.

1383
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: But I know that.

1384
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 6: Part two is probably the most popular one doing on

1385
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 6: the album and probably the one that people relate tomorrow.

1386
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 6: But just curious on you guys, thoughts on which version

1387
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 6: you think is the better one and for Bleak specifically,

1388
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 6: do you think it was the right call going with

1389
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 6: part two for the album cut? And which one that

1390
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 6: you prefer?

1391
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: What's your favorite?

1392
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 6: I'm always just curious to see what people think about

1393
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 6: the two versions, which one they prefer, and how they

1394
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 6: feel about it.

1395
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 1: So I'm curious both, y'all.

1396
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: Part one I always tell people, if I had to

1397
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: play a record for somebody that never heard rap before

1398
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: and this was their first time hand rap, I would

1399
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: play Dead President's Too.

1400
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: You personally over Part one? Yeah, I think I'll played

1401
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 3: Part one. The one that made the album is fire.

1402
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 3: That's fire, but part one is like the classic classic

1403
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 3: it is.

1404
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: But Dead President's two, Bro, I never knew why did

1405
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: he do parts? Not that I'm complaining, but challenge the

1406
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: verse just changed the third verse.

1407
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 4: I think, I don't know.

1408
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: It could be some type of rights and ownership record

1409
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 3: because then one came out on pay Day, the other police.

1410
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: On death Jam.

1411
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be some type of splits and ownership. Okay,

1412
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 3: I gotta get out of my publishing deal. Let me

1413
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 3: throw another verse.

1414
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: The game a little bit. But Dead President's two to me,

1415
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: like obviously Part one is they're both classics, So it's

1416
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: no wrong answer. But I just think that his energy

1417
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: on part two was just like it felt like, oh

1418
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 2: in another thing. That's the vibe I get from Dead

1419
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: President's too. It's like he has some other ship to

1420
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: put to that.

1421
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 3: How many people you think can release a record and

1422
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: then re release it with new rhymes and they hit harder?

1423
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Richard, Yeah, that's not that's not That's not the

1424
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: thing that can be done. Yeah. Yeah, And that was

1425
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: that answer. But for me too, that video was a

1426
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: part one and two that had like azy big, they

1427
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: was all playing your brother, they was all playing monopoly

1428
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: with real money. That was in debt press two or one.

1429
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: That video that was one.

1430
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 4: I think I think I think that was.

1431
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the cheat code. I would take from

1432
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 1: part one the second verse and part two the first verse,

1433
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: and that's the perfect Dead President. That's my cheek code version.

1434
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 4: I need.

1435
01:07:52,960 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, another one? What's going on? Part more? Rory Baby

1436
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: did names Man.

1437
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 6: Not the Bronx?

1438
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: My question for Bleaker is, if you had the chance to.

1439
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:11,479
Speaker 3: Do an album produced by Kanye or just Blaze, which

1440
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 3: one will he.

1441
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: Pick and why.

1442
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

1443
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: It's a great question.

1444
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 4: It's a fucking great question.

1445
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: Oh man.

1446
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 4: So we're gonna not talk about the present day people.

1447
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna what's your opinion on the Jewish community?

1448
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:35,480
Speaker 4: Yo, chick Chip, they gave me gosh, we're good.

1449
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: Semitic acide. Just blaze of Kanye West, of who you

1450
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: would want to do a project with at this point.

1451
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 3: Just blaze for the last thirty years, it's gonna be

1452
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,879
Speaker 3: the same fucking problem. I gotta go find this Niggayah.

1453
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 4: He ain't easy to be founded.

1454
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 3: They even got a card that's drawing like a comic book.

1455
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's like at night you can't see if

1456
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 3: you just see the outline of the car, you gotta

1457
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 3: paint it the way at night.

1458
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 4: It turns invisible almost. Yeah, just as different. So but

1459
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 4: that being sad, today's Kanye West.

1460
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 3: I had to find them, get him some help counseling

1461
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't be today's Kanye.

1462
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 4: So let's go back in the day.

1463
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: Okay, before you know the opinion of anyone, just as

1464
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: discovered Nintendo, let's just both three times.

1465
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 3: I have to say Kanye, okay, why because I never

1466
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 3: got beats from him the way I wanted to, Just

1467
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: as my bro.

1468
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 4: I love him. I mean masterpieces. Just we had some classics.

1469
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 3: Sure, Like I said, I have over ten to fifteen

1470
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: records with Just already.

1471
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, one with Kanye.

1472
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 3: So I would say Kanye just off that fact to

1473
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: relive that moment and getting to work with him.

1474
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard you missed on the Uchi Wally be

1475
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: Is there any just a Kanye beats that you passed on?

1476
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 4: They said, I passed on. Oh boy, it wasn't. It

1477
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 4: was whoa.

1478
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: It was whoa?

1479
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 4: Okay, whoa shout?

1480
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: I forgot who passed on? You passed the Whoa?

1481
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: But the beat not that it wasn't. What wasn't They

1482
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 3: just saying that's what I trying to tell me made

1483
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: it say.

1484
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: But even that beat though, like I'm I'm like, I

1485
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: don't see, No, that's a beat like that?

1486
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 4: What you think of that? Over that the same tape?

1487
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well that worked out okay for everybody. Yeah, but

1488
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: I could see that too, even the Whoe beat. Of

1489
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: course it's crazy. But if you take out knowing what

1490
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: Black Rob did on that, that could just be like

1491
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 1: some radio freestyle beat.

1492
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, like I didn't see

1493
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 3: the vision he heard to be like yo, everything, like

1494
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 3: whoa you're just.

1495
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: Having raw beats? What you think of that? Or WHOA?

1496
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: What you thinking?

1497
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: That would definitely grab your ear and you'll be like okay,

1498
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: especially if you're thinking I need a single, like what

1499
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: you think of that?

1500
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: Just yeah, he's.

1501
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 4: Got some classics.

1502
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: Man.

1503
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 4: The people I still discover records like Buck Wild did that?

1504
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, Buck is crazy? Yeah, uh Ron, we got

1505
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: the last one that's that's non Bleak related. But I

1506
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: do want your opinion. This gentleman's going through something.

1507
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, what's up to the marias Rory and Maul. My

1508
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 7: name is Odds. I'm from Port Saint Lucie, Florida. I

1509
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 7: got a story to tell. I'm gonna mackey quick. So

1510
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 7: I tried this before. It didn't work. I got baby Mama.

1511
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,799
Speaker 7: I've been with this six We broke up in twenty nineteen.

1512
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 7: She on me, she knew me with a chick. That

1513
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 7: ship does happen.

1514
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: Just so you niggas know, this game was.

1515
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 7: Really can't compete.

1516
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: They ended up.

1517
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 7: I found out some years later because we stopped talking,

1518
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 7: you know, not even for the kid.

1519
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: We just stopped talking.

1520
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 5: She was talking as well, but we stopped talking but

1521
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 5: she married Homegirl.

1522
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: Homegirls ended up leaving her because she found out she.

1523
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 8: Had as She couldn't deal with that chip that wasn't like.

1524
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 5: Yo, man just recently giving me some rhythm yo, apprehension

1525
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 5: on how to pursue that if I should pursue that

1526
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 5: part of me wants to pursue. That part of me is.

1527
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,799
Speaker 1: Like, yo, that's just that't going bro get.

1528
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 8: Out My daughter fifteen this summer, like it's time to

1529
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:24,520
Speaker 8: get out, it's over. I just want some advice, you know, yo,

1530
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 8: yo from my favorite podcast, What's Up?

1531
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 5: Help me out?

1532
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 4: Help him out? I need to start a help.

1533
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: Out because that that is that jamake. You gotta said,

1534
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 3: that's wicked any bed that's wicked, mind yo, I want

1535
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: to laugh.

1536
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: But he said she left me for a chick. Got

1537
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: mad right there.

1538
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 3: Let you know he wasn't paying her no attention. Girls

1539
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: love attention. Girls gonna give each other that attention. They're

1540
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 3: gonna go get that lunch, that brud. So, yeah, you

1541
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 3: ain't paying your bitch no attentions. Nobody wills.

1542
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: Somebody will for sure. There you go that.

1543
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 4: But then the girl left her. That means she's double back.

1544
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: No, she's fitting something he said, she's giving me rhythm. Yeah,

1545
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: what he was feeling before, the basics, like the trouble

1546
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: for sure, he got.

1547
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 3: Now he's feeling the rythm, the rhythms well, and he

1548
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 3: said his daughter is fifteen. He gotta go get out.

1549
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: He answered his own question. He said, it's over.

1550
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: That's why I think sometimes he said, we call in.

1551
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: They just need to listen to their own voicemails, to

1552
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: listen back to what you just said, Like because this

1553
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: girl cheating on you with the girl and cool that

1554
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: ended up being her queen. Whatever. She went to staples.

1555
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: She wanted her scissors and she got them. She's happy.

1556
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: But then her queen, who she finally found that would

1557
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: pay attention, got ms, and I thought it was death

1558
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: to us part. We have to fucking through sickness and health.

1559
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: She gets ms and she's like, nah, back to the

1560
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: only guy that she knows because they share a kid,

1561
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: and she know that is just terrible. But not only that,

1562
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: though they knew, he said, the knew they was six.

1563
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: They think they I think he said that since they

1564
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: were six, right, they grew and.

1565
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 3: Say what they call that simple? Simply what's his name?

1566
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 3: He ain't simply oh j simply another.

1567
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, simply that you would have handled out another way, simply.

1568
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 4: Simply living days.

1569
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, before we let you alone, before we

1570
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: let you go. Is there any way we can bring

1571
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: a man to some peace? To you and yay on murder.

1572
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 3: Tell niggas come higher at me, man, they want me

1573
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 3: to come on the war? What is the war report?

1574
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: The real report? Put up to the.

1575
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 3: Real report, they could pull up the rock solid, yo, bro,

1576
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 3: I have no beef for nobody.

1577
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: Know what you said? It was cool, like you A

1578
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: murder was cool.

1579
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got three videos, we got mass sores together.

1580
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: Me and the True Life is out here looking for

1581
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 3: the ops together. Now that me and True just was

1582
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 3: riding in the car ready for all smoke.

1583
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: Now I'm in the smoke like goddam with a lot

1584
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: of that's holding this.

1585
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yo, Dawn though, And I think that he kind

1586
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: of felt like what you said about uh, you know

1587
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: gu and It or anybody June affiliated.

1588
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: He felt a way about that.

1589
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 3: He can't do that. He gunit sendicate man, that's like

1590
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 3: wou send the Kate. He not an original member of

1591
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 3: g unit. The way he gonna take on the scars

1592
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 3: and the wombs that they had from the beginning.

1593
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: He sat in the beginning to fifty face.

1594
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 4: He would never.

1595
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 3: Sign to him, right, so you can't now wear the

1596
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 3: scars nigga like, come on, that's like a nigga get

1597
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 3: down with us right now. I'm not going he gonna

1598
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 3: just act like he had beef with Nas and Jungle, like.

1599
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 1: Come on, man, that's not right. But there is room

1600
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: for y'all to sit down and.

1601
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 3: All the time, because I don't have no pree for

1602
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 3: nobody had chilling my life, got records moving, no more moving.

1603
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 3: I'm the last thing before is to be riding around

1604
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 3: New York hoppy.

1605
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: It's too hot.

1606
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to get back a moment

1607
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 3: like what's the outfit for the territory?

1608
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: Dash? Gentrified? Now exactly what the fuck?

1609
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: They're gonna run up on you with a fit fit

1610
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: bit bracelet and kill you jogging, get count his steps

1611
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 3: and clip you.

1612
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: We're not ready for this, yo, We're not ready for

1613
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: the way here that jo can sit down. And of

1614
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: course we got to make that happen before it went

1615
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: this far.

1616
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 3: We reached out to Murder because I wanted to get

1617
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: some clarification as to what Yeah, Yo meant maybe he

1618
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 3: could have sat down with me and we could have

1619
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 3: cleared it right. They didn't have to go this fuck

1620
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 3: who knows man, you know what I mean. We gotta

1621
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: make let's tell fifty comes to that. We want to

1622
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 3: know what's up with him in the big Homie, come

1623
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 3: talk to me.

1624
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we definitely do that hoppy our Yeah, it.

1625
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: Might change my name the Optimist Prime.

1626
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: Before we let you go to celebrate Reasonable Doubt thirty

1627
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 1: years As of July thirty first, twenty twenty six. Top

1628
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: five j albums in order, in order from number one

1629
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: to five.

1630
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 3: Me yeah, Black album, number one, American Gangster Ool.

1631
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting you to say that.

1632
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 4: Number three, Reasonable Doubt Before.

1633
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a lot of curve ball in there.

1634
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the album with him and the

1635
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 3: rock group, the Lincoln Parkship Lincoln Park, the live album,

1636
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 3: because that got some gems like when they remix them

1637
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: to be it's.

1638
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: Different the Whites. We love that in the bar.

1639
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 4: Number five, that's.

1640
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: A great that's a great carry out the album. If

1641
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 1: you go down, if you go down Jersey Shore, that

1642
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: does not it does numbers out like you know alb

1643
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: like and Congress. You performed for the first time in

1644
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: shot No Congress, right, that's that's fire Man. Congratulations, Thank you. Bro.

1645
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 4: Do say moving.

1646
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: Number five?

1647
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 4: Fifth album?

1648
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 3: Man, I would say Volume two because that's the one

1649
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: that took us over Bowl, you know what I mean?

1650
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 3: Hard Knock Life, that's the one that on that crossover planet.

1651
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, more reasonable, hard Knock Black Album, Blueprint.

1652
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 1: I forgot, Yeah, you gave Lincoln Park over a blueprint plak.

1653
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna forgive you.

1654
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 4: No, No, it ain't over. But that's just like a f.

1655
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: And then pri American Gangster gotcha mind changes often after

1656
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,560
Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium. It used to be Blueprint one, but Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint,

1657
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: Black Album, American Gangster four forty four.

1658
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 3: See and you and this get this? You said it

1659
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: might be the end of the New York run. What

1660
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 3: about Black Album thirty?

1661
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: Blackout thirty, Oh, Shaye Stadium. I'm starting Sasha Stadium.

1662
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 3: That would be ridiculous. Like Blackout thirty. You gotta have

1663
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 3: a new New York blackout. You gotta have the city

1664
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 3: shut down the power like it's O three. Do you

1665
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: have what's next? That's what we do. Shut down the

1666
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: Power Grig, Blackout, thirty Whole City.

1667
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: When's the So Far Gone Anniversary might be the same year.

1668
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: Do you want Do you want Jay to put out

1669
01:19:59,000 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: a new album?

1670
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 4: No, I don't either me neither.

1671
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't either.

1672
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 4: I think he could.

1673
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 3: He could give you one one one joint, Yeah, because

1674
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 3: he got j Is on some major bullshit. Because I'm

1675
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 3: a rapper and I know what rappers do. You practice?

1676
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 3: You might see some ship like, oh, that gave me

1677
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 3: an idea, yo goo put this beat on lay some ship.

1678
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 3: Nobody hear it, but you don't know, Go tell me,

1679
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 3: yo yo.

1680
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 4: Jay got some ship.

1681
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: It's like steal a hard drive the way they said

1682
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: Cali hard Let's steal a JH. But we want the

1683
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 3: Cali hard Drive. Let's get the j hard have changed

1684
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 3: mad lives. I got I be Oprah with it. So

1685
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 3: for you, so for you, so for you. That's talking

1686
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 3: about it on there like I've told you Oprah.

1687
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't. I don't think I want another JA,

1688
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 1: like a new Ja out. If he has something to say,

1689
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 1: I want to and all hes gonna say.

1690
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 3: See this is the thing I think we live in

1691
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 3: the world at Nortter what he said. People gonna have

1692
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 3: something to say, of course, so it's like it's no

1693
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 3: right or wrong thing to say, and he wants anything

1694
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 3: you say is gonna be whatever people deem it as

1695
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 3: because ever since, like think about it, they crucified me

1696
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 3: with the activism stuff because I did violate be like, yo,

1697
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 3: I ain't with the activism shit. I don't know what

1698
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 3: I was thinking. Bought me, had me hot. I never

1699
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 3: want to see those shit like that. I gotta make

1700
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 3: sure I old trip and slip or some shit like that.

1701
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 3: Ever get But ever since I called the black hood

1702
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 3: fabricAll my song shit been crickets now no, now the

1703
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 3: activists don't want no smoke.

1704
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: With a real activist wit you and mice have no

1705
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: that's my dog, that's the hood fabric.

1706
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they better put respect on niggas on the front line.

1707
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,639
Speaker 3: All these niggas on the front of the post. He's

1708
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: on the front line, all the front of the post.

1709
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 3: People was all in my comments going crazy. I bought

1710
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 3: the front of the line. Nigga who outside with it?

1711
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 3: Shit crickets Now it's quiet. Don't want no more smoke

1712
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 3: that op died. I'm cool activist community.

1713
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 4: I'm back.

1714
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: That's why we have you here, Bleak. Exit strategy for

1715
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,799
Speaker 1: Iran yo, yeah, listen.

1716
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 3: Exit strategy for I red is the reset. But like

1717
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 3: going too you go too far to gaate like up,

1718
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 3: like reset, let's start over. He's just reset this ship.

1719
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 3: Just be like yo, listen, Wilent. Yeah, everybody race you

1720
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 3: got one on the books.

1721
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 4: We got one on the book back to zero.

1722
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 2: So yes, even Stevens, we would start over the wrong fu. Yeah, absolutely,

1723
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: you're bleak. We want to thank you for finally coming

1724
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: up man man doing this episode. Man, salute to you

1725
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: because we're talking about reasonable dout thirty years but obviously

1726
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 2: you've been there every step of the way, still holding

1727
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: the flag, still wrapping the rock. And I just want

1728
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: to say we appreciate everything that you've given the culture,

1729
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: everything that you've provided over the years, all of the balls,

1730
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: all of the moments, and we hope to continue to

1731
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 2: see you Bill and do say.

1732
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 4: I appreciate rock solid.

1733
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: Pocket. We gotta come dough rock solid.

1734
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 4: Yes, you gotta pull up man.

1735
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing rock solid. You gotta do rock solid.

1736
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 4: I'm glad I did this. Is not know my t

1737
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 4: dot oh card is still good.

1738
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, you're good man. It's no beavers, no shout

1739
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: out car real legend and they going the show with you.

1740
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: You better pull out all your fucking joints because he

1741
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: gonna make you this legend. People don't met him perform first.

1742
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: That's right. You better touch the stage first. That's somebody else.

1743
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: You want to talk to his car now, so we

1744
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: gotta get car out of here. Man, that's easy. Yeah,

1745
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: give him his flowers and ship man, absolutely, that's six. Ship.

1746
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 4: Haven't been to the six.

1747
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: You got to come to the six. Man. Make sure

1748
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, we're good man.

1749
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 4: Niggas out there taking change that family in Toronto.

1750
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 3: Man, I was the criminal across the border, like, no

1751
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: fucking buggy.

1752
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 1: Now, these niggas got goods. They were shice. Toronto always

1753
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: been like that.

1754
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 3: Though the most diverse girls happen to. The girl came

1755
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 3: out was the one in the place in the world

1756
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 3: where you win every rapper. That's why any basketball player

1757
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 3: that ever got traded to Toronto, they never complain.

1758
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: You never heard a nigga like, yo, we don't want

1759
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: to go play. Niggas like we want to go bugging beautiful.

1760
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: It is ippy out there. Issue with drinking is making

1761
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: that sity so popular? Why did you tell the rest

1762
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 1: of the world I was amazing this place.

1763
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I be out there.

1764
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: It's at he he shouldn't be mad. I'm trying to

1765
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: make sure it's still good over there.

1766
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: You're good, man, We're all good in Toronto. Man, that's

1767
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: family up there. Man, everything good.

1768
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Why don't shoot his part in Toronto?

1769
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 3: Got them make sure top five there, he gotta be got.

1770
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 3: I gotta talk the top five. Certain niggas on the internet,

1771
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 3: they do their thing. I'm watching. I gotta beat you.

1772
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: I got you. I fucked with your step I got you.

1773
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: Gift him the Nazi change. Yeah, this is what I'm saying.

1774
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: Like you got questions. Yeah, I gotta sit with top

1775
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: What is what is the opps like down here? What? What?

1776
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: What a day?

1777
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 4: And banging out here?

1778
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 3: I gotta know because back then it wasn't like it

1779
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: is today.

1780
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: So it changed.

1781
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: It was more, it was it was it was more

1782
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 2: if you know, you know back then with the internet,

1783
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 2: you know exactly, Toronto is like New York, bro. I

1784
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: tell people all the time, Toronto is a lot like

1785
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 2: New York.

1786
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 3: Toron Why people better not sleep on ship, right, there

1787
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 3: next to Buffalo. If you know Buffalo, everything in legal

1788
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 3: go through Buffalo ship right there.

1789
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: One of those things called parking Rymes by the bus

1790
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 1: was a parking Ryan Sling. Shot you a pack across

1791
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 1: a bro before the drum. Yeah, hell under now you

1792
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: can drone drop the Yeah, I'm not fucking with Top five.

1793
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 1: He got it. Look he got it.

1794
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 3: How y'all gonna put that? See the top out there

1795
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 3: putting in that work. I don't know about Top four

1796
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 3: up here from New York, man, you know what I mean?

1797
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 4: I think the Top four, but it got worked.

1798
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: This niggas crazy. That was thirty years of reasonable doubt.

1799
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Shout out to Memphis, blinking the building, Drop that leg,

1800
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: just jed, you always

1801
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 3: Loved You know what it is that man, You know

1802
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 3: what it is, y'all