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Speaker 1: Welcome into Texans All Access on a Tuesday, I've got

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermir, Drew Doherty. I'm DPCIDU UM. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: Mark before we go anywhere. Yes, I woke up this morning.

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Speaker 1: I was on my phone looking at Instagram and I

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Speaker 1: instantly thought of you. Why because DeAndre hopkins Instagram was hacked.

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Speaker 1: Was hacked? Yes, so early this morning I start my

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Speaker 1: his Instagram feeds populating with pictures of some Instagram model. Right,

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Speaker 1: clearly it's not him. The name of change, by the way,

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Speaker 1: they're cleans as what I said, I guess I'm saying

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Speaker 1: this and support of the hacker. I mean that's terrible,

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Speaker 1: Like I hate, I hate what he's done. But but

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Speaker 1: on the side not But I thought of you because

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Speaker 1: I remember being in this studio a few years ago

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Speaker 1: we left for a game and your Twitter, Yes, because

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Speaker 1: it was about Matt Shawn because match Shob got traded

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Speaker 1: for was it Josh Gordon? That was the trade? That

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Speaker 1: was the trade put on there on my account? And

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Speaker 1: I was giving a vander kid to a bath. I

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Speaker 1: mean I think he was still yeah thirteen, so he

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Speaker 1: was like nine months old. I was giving him a bath,

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Speaker 1: and my phone was blown up, but it was my birthday.

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Speaker 1: It was it was oth it was a Friday night,

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Speaker 1: it was our birthday. We have we share the same birthday.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking my phone's blown up because people are

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Speaker 1: just wishing me happy birthday again time like the phone

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Speaker 1: would be blown up earlier in the day. So I

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Speaker 1: just looked and it was it was Tanya again Gooley

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Speaker 1: calling me. And I'm like, Tanya doesn't call me so

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Speaker 1: and she's not wishing me a happy birthday. So I

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Speaker 1: picked it up. She said, Hey, did your Twitter act

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Speaker 1: get house too loud? That's on house And I instantly said,

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Speaker 1: I'll call you back. And you know, honey, take care

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Speaker 1: of vander care too. It just rins him off bodies

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Speaker 1: nine months he can swim right. So I instantly go

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Speaker 1: to Twitter and I'm thinking, oh, I've been you really

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Speaker 1: freaked out. But you know, it's not a big deal

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Speaker 1: anymore because I think all you because DeAndre actually got

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and said IG's been hacked, working on it whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's such a violence now when we were leaving for

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco trip. It was when we were leaving

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Speaker 1: for the San Francis and then I like how you

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Speaker 1: guys were just really breaking down the trade, why it

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Speaker 1: would and wouldn't were like like Marcus, Marcus still freaking out.

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Speaker 1: I think it was me, you and and maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: some other people in the bus. We were talking about

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Speaker 1: the trade like okay, but anyway about this trade like

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Speaker 1: we need this isn't really that balanced? Okay. Well, your

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Speaker 1: foibles with social media I think have played into this

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Speaker 1: because last summer we went out to dinner, all of

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Speaker 1: us at the Greenbrier. We went to that pizza place

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Speaker 1: and your family was with us, and I think you

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Speaker 1: got up to get a drink or something, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I think John asked vander kidd one something about like

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Speaker 1: what do you think of your dad on Twitter? And

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Speaker 1: your son said, he'll mess with you when you're typing something.

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Speaker 1: And he said he'll like he'll put his get his

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Speaker 1: finger kind of move it close to your head, and

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Speaker 1: you like stop because you're so worried you're gonna mess

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Speaker 1: up and sound. You want no distractions when you're tweeting

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Speaker 1: or on. So that was because of the Hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: tweet too. Oh yeah, that went out. But your son,

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Speaker 1: we had a good laugh that your son is already

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Speaker 1: messed with you can we can we just vaguely describe

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Speaker 1: what happens, because that was worse since we started with

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Speaker 1: this topic today, which I don't know if it's a topic,

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Speaker 1: but it kind of is. When Hard Knocks came here

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Speaker 1: and in this room, in this room the Hunday Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio Studio, which doubles as our digital TV studio, that's

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Speaker 1: where Hard Knocks set up Michigan, Michigan Mission Control, and

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Speaker 1: it was awesome. It looked like NASA in here. And

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Speaker 1: I took a picture of it and I tweeted it out,

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks here to you know, get things fired up

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Speaker 1: for Camp twenty fifteen, and I, you know, hashtagged it right.

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Speaker 1: So I tweeted that out and then I go to

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Speaker 1: Instagram and I go to set up a post there

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Speaker 1: and I go hashtag hard and it's like hard and

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Speaker 1: it's spelled it wrong. It took the head out of Knox.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, that means Instagram something I knew on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So I went to Twitter and yes,

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Speaker 1: I deleted it instantly, but somebody liked it. They didn't

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Speaker 1: retweet it, so it was very quick and it was

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Speaker 1: j P. Shadbrick of The Jackson called him up instantly

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Speaker 1: and I just said, oh, he he did retweet it.

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Speaker 1: I said, JP, take down that, um, take down that

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Speaker 1: tweet right away. But did he not notice that? He

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Speaker 1: must not have noticed it. He was like okay, he

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did in that voice, and then he took

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Speaker 1: it down. And I called him right back and I

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Speaker 1: was checking, checking, checking, and nobody else got it. I

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Speaker 1: got it in time. Other words, lucky there were no

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Speaker 1: that would have it could have been a career end

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Speaker 1: or I'm not kidding. Mistake. It's but it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: an innocent mistake, but it's a bad one. It's bad.

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Speaker 1: It's not offensive necessarily, it's just it was it borders obstity. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's unintentional. I woke up this morning and I thought

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Speaker 1: of you when when Deandre's Instagram got hacked, because you

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Speaker 1: felt awful, and I hope he doesn't feel as awful

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Speaker 1: because I think it just happens these days. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: all right, well it is. You know, we've got OTA's

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Speaker 1: wrapping up this week and Veteran Mini camp starts next week.

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Speaker 1: But it seems like it's been really busy around the building.

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Speaker 1: We've had some special guests walking around here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was not really a hot read. It's been a

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Speaker 1: who's who. It's been a who's who for an off season. Yeah. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Brett Farve was here. I know it's on Twitter now,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't. I did not know. I thought they

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Speaker 1: were speaking to the team, But apparently they're all shooting

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Speaker 1: something for NFL Networks, NFL one hundred. Brett, Michael Vick,

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Speaker 1: and Steve Smith. We're all here in the building this week.

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Speaker 1: How cool is that. Do you think they spoke to

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Speaker 1: the team as well. I'm sure they sat on one

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Speaker 1: they've talked to some of the players. Yeah, and Vic

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Speaker 1: when we were walking out and Vic. It's funny because

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Speaker 1: Mike Vick. I was almost more star struck for Mike VICKI.

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Speaker 1: It was Brett Farve. Brett Farve. You know, I walked

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Speaker 1: and didn't walk by him, but I saw him out

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Speaker 1: was with Atlanta UH and the Texans won that game

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Speaker 1: that match up. That's what you were going to say

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Speaker 1: to him walking out of practice. You were at that game.

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Speaker 1: The Texans are one one, yeah, one and one all

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Speaker 1: time against Mike. Mark was gonna lead with that. In

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Speaker 1: his conversation with Vic told the Hurricanes because Vic blasted

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Speaker 1: the Hurricanes in ninety nine in Blacksburg and then in

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Speaker 1: two thousand, he was kind of banged up, kind of

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Speaker 1: Canes beat him them. Well, I think that's I think

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Speaker 1: with everything happening with the NFL's one hundred um celebration

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Speaker 1: this year, we've had a lot of things happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're there because there's J. J. Watt that far was

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Speaker 1: his hero, Vic was Deshaun Watson's hero, and Steve Smith

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Speaker 1: was Hopkins's hero. So they got all of those guys together.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch and J. J. Watts on

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Speaker 1: Peyton Peyton's Peyton's Places, which I think is not quite

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Speaker 1: the NFL one hundred, but I like how they're doing

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Speaker 1: all this, you know, celebratory stuff. The Texans, we've got

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Speaker 1: our top one hundred moments. Yes, that's running right now

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Speaker 1: on Houston Texans dot com. Quickly here broadcasting hero Drew,

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Speaker 1: go my who's my broadcast? Yeah, you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: heroes of these players, so let's go while you think

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Speaker 1: about No, I know, Bob Allen and Craig Reynolds or

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Speaker 1: Craig Robert. Excuse me, we're not growing up like locally.

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Speaker 1: Those guys were huge. That's who I really loved. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and wanted to be like growing up. It's very cool.

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Speaker 1: The tam deep he's making a face, bad cheese face.

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Speaker 1: You don't know. I was like Linda Cone. Probably yes,

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Speaker 1: I always say Linda Cone. That's that's really interesting because

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Speaker 1: that I think I'm Linda Cone because I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: But I just I mean, I just but I do

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Speaker 1: Bob Allen breaking, it's exactly like Linda. What about you? Mark?

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Speaker 1: I got probably got categories. Jimmy Page, Oh wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: that's guitar like, I'm just like him. I just need

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Speaker 1: to broadcast Dick Stockton to me is And in fact,

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Speaker 1: it gave me an idea for a podcast. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come up with this, and I don't know if I'll

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play my favorite broadcasters and broadcast songs, uh themes,

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Speaker 1: you know, because we're doing Monday night football stuff. The

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Speaker 1: other day we played the Monday Night Football theme, and

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Speaker 1: I thought it'd be great to play like this is

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Speaker 1: what the NFL Today theme was. This all got us

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Speaker 1: fired up. If you're a little longer in the tooth

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Speaker 1: like me, that got you fired up for a Sunday

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Speaker 1: of football, or this is the old Monday Night football

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Speaker 1: theme or whatever comes up. I love hearing the old

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football theme. I love hearing the Sunday CBS

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Speaker 1: NFL theme. I love see the graphic. Yes, that reminds

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Speaker 1: me of my childhood, and the big, the big font,

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Speaker 1: the big sort of slanted point. Isn't that the college

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Speaker 1: football Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I love that. That also gets

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Speaker 1: me fire. Still here Verne's voice, even though he's not

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Speaker 1: doing it anymore. Are he's doing golf still? All right?

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Speaker 1: So this week the assistant coaches were just a few

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Speaker 1: rooms down from us, Mark, you and Johnny sat down

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Speaker 1: and talked with quite a few drew and I got

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Speaker 1: a few of them on camera. I know First of all,

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Speaker 1: I should say John Perry's coming up in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: You guys had a chance sit down with him. He

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Speaker 1: talks wide receivers. There's a lot to talk about. And

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Speaker 1: then later on in the show, John Harris, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: bring him in and we're gonna break down ot is

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Speaker 1: a little bit further. I know there's not a lot

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Speaker 1: you can see without pads, but trust me, John Harris

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Speaker 1: sees enough. He sees all. He sees all of it.

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Speaker 1: He watches their footwork and you can't ask him any

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Speaker 1: includes a lot of different guys and a lot of

425
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Speaker 1: different skill sets and and where was Uh, we were

426
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Speaker 1: very close last year to being where we want to

427
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Speaker 1: be as a room in terms of you know, skill set,

428
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 1: skill set diversity, and uh, you know, I think we're

429
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: even getting closer with that, you know, with some of

430
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Speaker 1: these college free agents we brought in and and that's

431
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 1: so critical in our room because if you just have

432
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: every guy be the same, we can't take advantage of

433
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Speaker 1: the defense we wanted the way we want to And

434
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Speaker 1: and so we're getting closer to having a full skill

435
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 1: set diversity group and and that's really exciting for me. Coach.

436
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: You've been there every step of the way for for Will,

437
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: and we started to see that last year, especially week two.

438
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: He missed Week one. He comes back in Week two

439
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: against Tennessee and you could see that up until he

440
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 1: gets hurt against Miami. What was so key to his

441
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: progress last year and what have you seen in his

442
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 1: growth since he's been here. Well, one of the things

443
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 1: we talked about, uh, you know when when I first

444
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Speaker 1: got into the receiving room was just you know, just

445
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: catching the ball on a consistent basis. And he did

446
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: a really good job of that two years ago. And

447
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: then you know, last year up until when he got hurt.

448
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: He didn't have any drops, so we were really excited

449
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: about that. The thing that we talked about last offseason

450
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 1: with him was just you know, getting stronger and doing

451
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: a great job in the weight room and just increasing

452
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: his play strength. And the way I watched that out

453
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 1: on the field as he grew last year was incredible.

454
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Speaker 1: And the best thing about that is, you know, when

455
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Speaker 1: I asked Will, I said, do you feel stronger out there?

456
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: His first initial reaction was like no, And then I

457
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: showed him some examples of where it showed up and

458
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 1: he was like, wow, you're right. You know, like some

459
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 1: times where maybe he got out battled for the ball

460
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, where last year he was

461
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: battling for that ball. And so that's really encouraging for

462
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint, is just watching these guys like take

463
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: the opportunity to look in a mirror and say this

464
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Speaker 1: is what I need to do to get better. And

465
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Speaker 1: both those guys have done that in the time I've

466
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Speaker 1: been here, and now you're starting to see that trickled

467
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: down into a guy like Kiki Kuti, who's men out

468
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: there every single day for us here in OTAs and

469
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Speaker 1: you know, so like that kind of you know, unspoken

470
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Speaker 1: leadership from Hop and Will has really uh, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: going to pay a lot of dividends as we go

472
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Speaker 1: forward with QT and Vincent Smith, you're looking for a

473
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Speaker 1: year one to year or two jump here, So what

474
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Speaker 1: about that with each of those guys. So a lot

475
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Speaker 1: of pressure on those guys in terms of that because

476
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Speaker 1: a lot of people talk to him about that year

477
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Speaker 1: one to year two. So again, I think the big

478
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Speaker 1: thing is just making sure you look at yourself and say, Okay,

479
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Speaker 1: what are the things that I can get better at.

480
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Speaker 1: One of the things we really try to stress with Kiki,

481
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Speaker 1: because he's a very instinctual player, is just saying, hey,

482
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: we got to look at recognizing coverages from that standpoint,

483
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: doing that earlier pre snap post snap. And he's really

484
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: worked on that both in the meeting room and on

485
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: the field and you get so many different looks from

486
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: Coach Cornell that you know, it just it makes it

487
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: a lot easier for him to you know, work on that.

488
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: And then from Vincent, you know, the big thing is

489
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: really just being able to be confident to know that,

490
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: like you know, last year, I think the jump from

491
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: limestone to hear was, you know, an enormous jump. So

492
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: I think just you know, feeling like hey, I belong

493
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Speaker 1: and you know, and then being able to like break down, Okay,

494
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Speaker 1: here's the things I need to work on, you know,

495
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: from that, and he knows that there's you know, enough

496
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: things to fill all of OTAs and he's really taking

497
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: a great approach is this offseason to doing that and

498
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: you're seeing some improvement there. So it's good college. We

499
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Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Best of luck, Thank you very much.

500
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Speaker 1: All right. John Perry always a lot of fun to

501
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: chat with. He's one of Drew's favorites. I think he's great.

502
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: He turned fifty years old this week and floating her

503
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: out there on the internet is some video of him

504
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: from his University of New Hampshire days when he was

505
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and the guy had wheels. I saw

506
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Speaker 1: a video of him sixty four yard touchdown pat I

507
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Speaker 1: mean made some moves at the end and he's no, no,

508
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Speaker 1: it's not on Twitter, at least I've found on Twitter.

509
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: But he was celebrating and going bananas and you can

510
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: see his enthusiasm was infectious as a player and now

511
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: you see it as a coach. As well when he's coaching.

512
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Speaker 1: He's a lot of fun to watch out there, and

513
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: these wide receivers are gonna be fun too, are We're

514
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Speaker 1: gonna take a break, we come back. One final segment.

515
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: John Harris goes deep into OTAs, talks about what he's

516
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Speaker 1: seen so far and sort of what to expect heating

517
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Speaker 1: in the Veterans mini camp. That's all coming up. One

518
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Speaker 1: final segment of Texans All Access. Alexis welcome back for

519
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Speaker 1: the final segment of Texans All Access, joining me Now

520
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Speaker 1: I'm a good friend, John Harris. This is really I

521
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: should call it the John Harris segment because I'd like to.

522
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: I'd like to have you in for the final segment

523
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: of the show. We sort of hit all the highlights

524
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: and the big topics throughout the rest of the show,

525
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: but I feel like this is where we can really

526
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Speaker 1: go under the surface and really talk about what's going

527
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Speaker 1: on in ots because I know a lot of people

528
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: are aware of OTAs. Yeah, it's the final week. I

529
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: get random questions on Twitter about particular players and I'm like, listen,

530
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: it's OTAs, Like we get we go out there for

531
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Speaker 1: an hour, hour and a half yea once a week

532
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: and there's no pads. I think that's the one thing.

533
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: It's very hard to determine anything right now. People people

534
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: forget that a lot, but yeah, with the line, you

535
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Speaker 1: can't you really. It was funny today I was when

536
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Speaker 1: I was coming down here to do this, I ended

537
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: up behind the defensive lineman, and I was behind the

538
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: defensive line rookies, and I know them by name. I

539
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: mean I know that my name and the names are familiar.

540
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: I see Albert Huggins and Johnny Dwight and a few

541
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: guys that people just haven't heard anybody talk about because

542
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: we don't really know what they can do, and we

543
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: seven and we see even less of them exactly as

544
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: that's the point, because they're they're in short to T shirts. Basically,

545
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: we don't even know what these guys can do. That's

546
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: why we've been talking about these rookies. That's why Tyrann

547
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Johnson has been talked about from Oklahoma State. Because you

548
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: can see the receivers, you can see the dbs, you

549
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: can obviously watch the sean throw the football. He had

550
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: no idea what the lineman are doing. Now, I'm one

551
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: of those sick individuals because I've been doing this for

552
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: a long time when they're out in shorts and T shirts,

553
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: and would have to do with my old players when

554
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: I was coaching, just watching footwork, watching just kind of

555
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: the little things and seeing how it's going to translate.

556
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: Is that going to translate when they do put pads on?

557
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: Trying to figure that out. But even at that point,

558
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: it's really really hard. But here's the other aspect, and

559
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought this up. We are We're out

560
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: there for an hour and fifteen hour and a half

561
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: maybe watching one of every three practices. So there are

562
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: two practices that go on during the week that we

563
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: don't eat. We don't so there's a lot that's transpiring

564
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: those two practices. So trying to figure out from week

565
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: one to week two, week two to week three, what

566
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: exactly has gone on and what has exactly transpired, Like, Okay,

567
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: this guy is at this position doing these things. Last week,

568
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: he was with the other group, now he's with this

569
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: group now, And it's like, wow, man, it's just so hard.

570
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: So I just try to take it at face value

571
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: when I go out there and watch and Okay, the

572
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: day i'm watching, what did I see? What did we see? Okay,

573
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: we saw this guy do well, so this guy do well,

574
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: And a lot of it goes back to the receivers

575
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: and DB's just because that's where you actually get to

576
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: see the action really is with those particular positions in

577
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: this camp. But I'll tell you this, there's one thing

578
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: that I that I know for a fact that if

579
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: KIKIQT is healthy for sixteen games, he's going to be

580
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: a serious problem for people. I agree, he's unbelievable he's

581
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: getting and he's getting a lot of reps right now,

582
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: a ton obviously without Fuller and Hopkins out there. But

583
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: to see QT out there also, you know, I think

584
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: he just looks stronger. I was mentioning this, talked about that,

585
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: and he first practice he wrote down a note and

586
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: I was like, well, don't quote me on it because

587
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: I haven't asked him specifically. Yeah, but I know that

588
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: he was working on those issues this offseason, and it

589
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: looks like he's gotten stronger. I know a lot of guys.

590
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: I talked to Wolf Fuller last year, and you know

591
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: he obviously he I mean towards ACL there's not much

592
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: you can do about that, but he had that off

593
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: season he trained with a bodybuilder put on a lot

594
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: of weight because there's certain injuries that can be avoided

595
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: if you put on that extray some of those soft

596
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: tissue injuries or those rib injuries, obviously torn acl things

597
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: like that. Broken bones you cannot because even j. J.

598
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: Watt broke bones in his legs. But you know, to

599
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: see him out there and see him healthy. Also, I

600
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: think the tight ends look phenomenal. Right now, that's another

601
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: group that we've really been able to watch, and I

602
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a I think it's gonna be

603
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: a problem if they don't keep four tight ends, because

604
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great problem to have. But every

605
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: time I see Jordan Thomas out there, I really can

606
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: see the jump that he's made from year one to

607
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: do I think anybody can. He just looks so comfortable

608
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: and fluid. Also, just Shaun Watson, I think that's one

609
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: that's one thing that we are able to see the

610
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: progress that he's made from off season off season because

611
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: we saw what he did last OTAs he was out there.

612
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: He wasn't out there for team, he was out there

613
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: for individual. But this is really his first off season

614
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: where he's it's his show. He's out there from beginning

615
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: to end the entire time I was in Uh. I

616
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: was yesterday. I went on with guy named Brent Martineau

617
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville Brett Martineau and former Jaguar Austin Lane on

618
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: ESPN nine thirty. They got a new station down there,

619
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: and Brent used to be afternoon guy on the flagship

620
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars in ten ten and he moved over

621
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: with Austin. They do the show. And so I met

622
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: Brent for the first time at the combodies who were

623
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: talking and I just wanted to introduce myself to him

624
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: because I saw him doing some stuff for video. He

625
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: also is a news director, I think at the CBS

626
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: affiliate there. Until we were talking, He's like, hey, man,

627
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: come on my show is okay? So he called me

628
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: and I came on the show and so he was

629
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: asking about the Texans and asked about Gibson. Then he

630
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: got the he got the Deshaun And I don't blame

631
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: him for this. I wasn't mad at him. Where he

632
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: said this. He said, John, I'm still sort of curious

633
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: about the Shawn. He goes, I'm not trying to be

634
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: a hater. I'm not trying to be negative about him,

635
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: but I think a lot was expected, and yet maybe

636
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: he's not thought of in that same category as Patrick Mahomes.

637
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: And as he's asking the question, like, I'm like, I

638
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Speaker 1: get it, I get it, but the flip side of it,

639
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Speaker 1: and I think you just said it. DP. Here was

640
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Speaker 1: a guy last year that threw for over four thousand

641
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: yards twenty five touchdowns, ran for over five hundred yards,

642
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: and had six touchdowns rushing. He's the only player in

643
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Speaker 1: NFL history to do that, coming off an Aco without

644
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Speaker 1: Will Fuller for eight games, having been sacked sixty two times,

645
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: did not have Deontae Foreman for the majority of the year.

646
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Speaker 1: I just say for the year was dealing with some

647
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Speaker 1: major injury in the middle of that pass. I was

648
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: dealing with an injury himself because of the pounding he

649
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: was taking. And yet he led the team to AFC

650
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: South Championship. He let he put up those kind of

651
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: numbers and people still doubt him. And I can see that.

652
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: And Brent's not the only one. And I'm not putting

653
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Speaker 1: Brent unblast. I think Brent's great. I think he asked

654
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Speaker 1: a valid question. I had a question naturally that people

655
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: are asking, and like He's like, what's the vibe in Houston?

656
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: And I said, look, I don't want to make excuses.

657
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: I said, I'll just give you reasons. And I kind

658
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: of outlined that and I said, what happens if you

659
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: take those sacks and you cut him from sixty two,

660
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: Say you cut him in a half sixty two to

661
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Speaker 1: thirty one. That's thirty one more passing attempts and maybe

662
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: a complete twenty four of them. I say twenty to

663
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Speaker 1: twenty four. Five of those are going for touchdowns at

664
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Speaker 1: a minimum. That's now you're up to thirty touchdowns, which

665
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: break the record that Mark has always talked about. Now

666
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: you're in that thirty touchdown in your category and you

667
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: didn't have fuller for eight weeks, so that's another five

668
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: to six at a minimum. So now you started talking

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Speaker 1: about thirty five thirty six, and we really haven't talked

670
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: about the fact that he's now coming in healthy for

671
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: the first time he has he has the run of

672
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: the offense now that he's been here in his third year.

673
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: So you've got all of that. You've got to think

674
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: that with former being back, that will help the run game.

675
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: Full of being back qut being fully healthy, you have

676
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: all those things going for you. I think the one

677
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: thing that Shaun has to do this year is have

678
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: one of those games nationally where he goes, we know,

679
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: with Mahomes against Mahomes, like he goes toe to toe

680
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: with Mahomes, and he has one of those games like

681
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: he had in New England as Seattle, New England, Seattle

682
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: or Philadelphia last year, and then they win the game.

683
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: And then it's also like whoa wait a second, check

684
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: out with the Shawn Watson's doing because this thing can

685
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: flip on a time, because last year we were talking

686
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz, Oh if Carson stays healthy using an

687
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: MVP candidate classification, but then Wentz has a not great year,

688
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: full steps in, leads them to the playoffs, and it's like, hey,

689
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: how good he's Carson Wentz. This thing kind of rides

690
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: the waves for guys, especially in the the first five years.

691
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: But I think to your point, it's that's what the

692
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: national conversation is because I think people that are in

693
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: Houston that are following the team, right, I mean, I

694
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: don't think anybody looks at Deshaun Watson and says, oh,

695
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: he's just not as good as we thought. He'd be right.

696
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't really hear anybody saying that. I think everybody

697
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: sort of understands the limitations this team had, especially with

698
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: all the injuries and then the offensive line being young,

699
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: and you lose Seantrel Henderson in Week one, all of

700
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, there shuffling guys around, and it took you

701
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: a few weeks to figure out what that right fit

702
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 1: was going to be. And even then your guards are

703
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: banged up for the rest of the year. Zach Fulton

704
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: was hurt, Senel Killimenti was hurt. Still, those guys played.

705
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Still the team got wins. But just imagine. I know

706
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: every team has its cheer of injuries, but I think

707
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Speaker 1: I don't really look at it like, oh, but Deshaun

708
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Watson didn't live up to the potential. Yeah, I mean

709
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: he's only first full years. Last year was the first

710
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: year he passed sixteen games, yes, starting, And I know

711
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes also was young. But you know, I think I

712
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: would have liked to see that Kansas City Texans game

713
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: be a primetime game. I'm disappointed that it wasn't. I

714
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: think I don't know who makes these decisions and what

715
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: went behind that not being who doesn't want to see

716
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: those two go to hotel. I do. He's my former quarterback.

717
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not kidding my When when I first

718
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: got I told the story yesterday in Jacksonville. When I

719
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: first got to Jacksonville and I was the head junior

720
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: high coach, my quarterback is um he's made my name

721
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: of Blake Jones, and I had him for eighth and

722
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: ninth grade and he is now the he's one of

723
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: the five people that helps with the schedule. He is this.

724
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: He is now the senior director of broadcasting. Oh okay,

725
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: So when I see him, I gonna be like why

726
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: because I see him periodically and I see him for

727
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: the playoff game, and it's just always interesting to see him.

728
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: So when I see him on be like, Blake, you

729
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: can't put my homes and Watson on primetime? Bro, Like,

730
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: that's your deal. You're the senior director of broadcasting, Blake.

731
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I just could have made this happen. You

732
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: could have made it happen. I know, there's there's plenty

733
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: of opportunities for the Cowboys to be on primetime. There's

734
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: spenty opportunity for the Giants to be on primetime. But

735
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: this is your one shot of putting Mahomes and Watson

736
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: same year. Everyone makes the comparis and it's like, I mean,

737
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's probably too early to say. Like

738
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: how when Peyton Manning and Tom Brady would go against

739
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: each other, like everybody wanted to stop and watch that game.

740
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: But I feel like this next generation of quarterbacks there's

741
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: a lot of intrigue there. Yeah, because you know, they're

742
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: they're they're fun, They're a lot of fun to watch. Well,

743
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: here's what we're up against. The Steelers are going to

744
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers. That's the game they put on Sunday Night football.

745
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: But I mean we've seen okay, we have we not

746
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: seen Big Ben and Philip Rivers and Bandbox Stadium out

747
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: in La Soccer Stadium, I mean a stadium. It just

748
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: doesn't tell I could see that. But yeah, here's the

749
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: other here's the other thought. The Colts and Chiefs play

750
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night the week before. So maybe it's a

751
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: matter of you've got the Chiefs having so many primetime

752
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: games and Texans the Texans really don't have that many,

753
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: which I think from our other than what we've got,

754
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: what three not including Lindon got the Monday night. I

755
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: don't count London has got the Monday Night against the

756
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: st start off this season, got the Sunday and against

757
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Later in the season, you got the Thursday

758
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: against the Colts. Yeah, later in the season, and then

759
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: London and then London and then potentially that game with

760
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay over the weekend before Christmas, which that might

761
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: be nationally televised. It might be nationally televised, it may

762
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: not be Prime. It's kind of like the Jets game

763
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, it might end up like that where

764
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: it's nationally televised but still naturally nationally televised game. And

765
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: we'll take it. We'll take it to they could have

766
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: nationally televised the Chiefs and the Texans anyway. That was

767
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: always might be. For the um running backs. I think

768
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: that's another interesting thing that we are sort of watching

769
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: and OTAs. Obviously you don't have a good handle, but

770
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: how much have you seen out of the running backs?

771
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: I know everyone's questioning that number three spot. We talked

772
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: to the assistant coaches yesterday and Danny Barrett. Danny Barrett, well,

773
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: he you know, he listed a number of guys that

774
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: he said, you know, we're doing well obviously, Buddy Howell,

775
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: Taiwan Jones. Do you think the number three back is

776
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: on this roster right now? It's a great question. I

777
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: think so. I think so. Watch. I was watching Buddy

778
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: Holley actually running football, and it's interesting because last year

779
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: we didn't get a chance to see him run the football.

780
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he was strictly a special team or you

781
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: could have put his his position on the program and

782
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: put st and it would it would have fit. He

783
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: just didn't get any time in running back. But data foreman.

784
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: I know people have talked about that a lot, but

785
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: I talked about this last night at All Access. Just

786
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: one there was one run that they mixed into a

787
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: team period and I couldn't quite see who got the ball.

788
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: I could just see helmets and I just saw this

789
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: helmet blurred and I was like whoa, And I knew

790
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: it was a run. I could see that. I just

791
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: couldn't see the running back was. And then the running

792
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: back popped out and I was like, WHOA, that was

793
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: quick and it was Deonte. I was like, WHOA. He

794
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: looks pride he does. He looks very quick, he looks

795
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: and I think that's a that's a definite X factor.

796
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: And I said that a few months ago, and I'll

797
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: say it all the way throughout the season. I think

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00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: Deante Foreman being able to provide a one two punch

799
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: because he and Lamar are different. I think that is

800
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that really can make your offense

801
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: layered and different and complex for defenses to have to

802
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: try and stop. So I think that's where Foreman really

803
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: really helps. As I told them at Jacksonville, Lamar is

804
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: very good in his own game, like he's very good

805
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: in his own running game. He's really gotten comfortable in it.

806
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: Not that he can't run out of things, but that's

807
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: where he's really comfortable. But Deanta, I think, can run

808
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: a few different things, so you can be multiple with

809
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: your two running back. Now, you don't have running backs

810
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: with the exact same skill set. They're very different. Here's

811
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: to your point. A little while ago you mentioned tight

812
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: ends and keeping four I think and and well there

813
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: last point is do you look at wide receivers, tight ends,

814
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: running backs and say, okay, we're keeping x number total

815
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Speaker 1: as opposed to x number wide receivers, X number tight ends,

816
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: x number running backs. Because it's really hard to envision

817
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: a team without having a guy like Darren Fells, because

818
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: I can see Fells and I just see the impact

819
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: that he can have not only from a play stands

820
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: is large, but a leadership standpoint too. And then you're like, Okay,

821
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Hopkins full or qt those three. Then you look at

822
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Vincent Smith and you're like, man, Vincent's been so good

823
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: this spring, like he's taken at leap. I can't imagine

824
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: him not being on his team. Then it starts getting

825
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: sticky because you've got some young guys that are in

826
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: the full tyrant. Johnson you see him and you go, wow,

827
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 1: that's a rookie. You really want to keep him around?

828
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: Calling Vincent last year, he's definitely look good. Did you

829
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: see Stevie Mitchell? Ye, Man, he's quick. Johnny Dixon was

830
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Man, if you keep four tight ends,

831
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: how many receivers can you keep? But wait a second,

832
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: you've got two running backs. But I like Buddy how

833
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: I really like Damara Crockett. Man, your numbers are gonna

834
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: get squeezed here and that that's gonna be really stick

835
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: It's a great problem to have, but you gotta keep

836
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: obviously everybody healthy, and that's not something that Texans have

837
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: been lately. But if they stay healthy, but you've actually

838
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: got some options with your numbers. So I don't know,

839
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: if I think about it, why does she was running

840
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: backs tight ends as opposed to think about the whole group?

841
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: How many of those guys can you keep? And then okay,

842
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: if you keep it extra offensive skill? Guy, are you

843
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: pulling away from linebacker? Are you pulling away from safety?

844
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: Are you pulling where else? Are you gonna pull? Guys?

845
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: Where are you gonna pull a number from? That's where

846
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: it starts getting really really complicated. I think with this group.

847
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: I think in the past years you looked at it

848
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: went okay, I think these guys are gonna be the

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I think. Now I look at it and go,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure in the first three, I'm pretty confident

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Speaker 1: of Vincent, but the next two throw darts at it.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, if you're throwing darts sometimes when

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Speaker 1: you say that, you're like, oh, you just pick anybody now. Really,

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Speaker 1: you've got some good options for five and six if

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Speaker 1: you keep six wide receivers. So I think in years

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Speaker 1: past when you're keeping five and six, you're like, man

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Speaker 1: number six is just not keep. He's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a guy you're gonna have on forty six man rosters. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think also in training camp, and I hate to

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Speaker 1: say this, but the injuries are gonna dictate Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: where that shift is gonna happen, because it seems like

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Speaker 1: every year training camp there's some wide receivers are hurt,

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Speaker 1: and you and you and you don't have a choice.

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Speaker 1: You have to keep. Scary, it's scary. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to I don't want to talk, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: we always You're right, we always had in reality, we

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Speaker 1: always had into training camp like we have the you know,

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Speaker 1: this position group is really stacked, and then you have

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Speaker 1: an injury somewhere else, right, and then you know that's

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Speaker 1: that's the position group that becomes the one that you

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Speaker 1: have to have extra depth. Yeah. No, you're exactly right,

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Speaker 1: and we I mean, what was that was the first

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Speaker 1: year I went to Greenmar twenty seventeen, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: every receiver died and then they'd bring receivers in and

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Speaker 1: then they they would die. Like Andrew White came in,

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Speaker 1: looked great for two days and then he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: And then Bruce Allcton came in and hey, Bruce might stick,

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Speaker 1: but then he got banged up a little bit. Now

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Speaker 1: we got to bring in these other guys. That was Bruce.

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Speaker 1: That was completely my fault because the day that I

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Speaker 1: left West Virginia, I came home for four days time.

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Speaker 1: That's the day Will Fuller broke his Colorado. Had I

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Speaker 1: not left, we would have been totally fine. I apologize it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't even I don't even want. I know. I

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Speaker 1: remember I came home and I saw the alert and

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Speaker 1: I thought, what I just remember. It's funny because I

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Speaker 1: saw the past play, I didn't think much of it.

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Speaker 1: And I went to look back at the next play

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Speaker 1: and I look and Will still that, I'm like, And

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Speaker 1: then and then you're right, it was. It was a

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Speaker 1: blur of wide receivers that got signed. In the next week,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Ellington came in and credit credit He picked up

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Speaker 1: stuff right away, which is what they needed at the time.

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Speaker 1: They needed that, And and Bruce waitson plays and and

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Speaker 1: you know they've gotten to a position now where you

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Speaker 1: know last year, where they've improved the position where that

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Speaker 1: they've got Keky QT, and they've got a guy like

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Speaker 1: Johnny Dixon, Tyrand Johnson bringing from young guys. I just

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Speaker 1: think the receivers have gotten better and better. And we

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Speaker 1: talked to John Perry about that, and he was just

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Speaker 1: very matter of fact about what guys had to do

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Speaker 1: to really break into that union. Talked about QT what

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Speaker 1: he had to do. Um, and I think Key's done that.

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Speaker 1: But if there's been an MVP if you will of

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Speaker 1: OTAs um Q, yeah, it's it's probably it's probably Kecky

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Speaker 1: because he's just tind to cover him, is like, and

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Speaker 1: we and we all tweet. We have there's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a shooting period where we can tweet and

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Speaker 1: take pictures and videos. And it's funny because it's very

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Speaker 1: hard to not tweet a highlight or a video of

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Speaker 1: QT catching a pass from from de Shaun because it

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Speaker 1: looks spectacular and usually the wide receivers are right in

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Speaker 1: front of us. Anyway, But um, anyway, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: next week. We'll actually get to see more a veteran

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Speaker 1: mini camp because we'll be out there every single day.

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Speaker 1: That's just three days. That's next week. Johnny, thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. As always, that's going to

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Speaker 1: do it for Texans all access. Checkout Houston Texans dot

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Speaker 1: com for all the latest stories, coverage, highlights and more.

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Speaker 1: And as always, go Texans, as always,