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Speaker 1: College hoops fans, Welcome to the best basketball coverage on

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Speaker 1: Countdown to tip Off. Here's Brian No, former Penn State

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Speaker 1: All American, Rich Ornberger and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, welcome in here as we get you

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Speaker 2: all set for Day three of the Masters NBA Playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Right around the corner, we got ball on the brain,

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Speaker 2: of course, with the NFL Draft right around the corner.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I just I noticed a theme at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the show. It's mature versus immature. You

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Speaker 2: can get examples on both sides of the aisle over here, Fellas,

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Speaker 2: would you say you're more of the mature variety or

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Speaker 2: immature variety at this stage of your life? What would

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Speaker 2: you say about yourselves here?

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Speaker 3: I think I oscillate between the two.

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Speaker 4: I would say that there are times where you know, look,

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Speaker 4: you know, you wear a lot of hats. The older

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Speaker 4: you get, it feels like and then maybe you take

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Speaker 4: some of them off as you get older from there.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm a dad obviously, I'm a co host

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Speaker 4: with you guys. You know, I do a lot of

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Speaker 4: different things. I'm a morning radio show host with a

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Speaker 4: classic rock station.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: In part of my life, I'm a color analyst for

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Speaker 4: a football team. So you know, I would say that

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Speaker 4: depending on what direction I'm heading in. Next is the

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Speaker 4: hat I'm wearing. Yesterday, I was playing kickball with a

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Speaker 4: bunch of elementary school kids. This morning, we're gonna be

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Speaker 4: talking about the one of the most prestigious majors in golf,

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Speaker 4: the Masters.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the fact that Rich used the word

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Speaker 5: oscillate tells me that he's a very mature individual.

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Speaker 2: And I would say that.

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Speaker 5: The show, of all the examples you just gave, I

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Speaker 5: would say that the show with us might be might

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Speaker 5: be on the lower end of the maturity spectrum based

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Speaker 5: on some of the things that we discussed. You know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're gambling on sports here, We're not exactly

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Speaker 5: reinventing the wheel or you know, caring cancer. So I

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Speaker 5: think I'm I think I'm also kind of in the

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Speaker 5: middle because of my daily job.

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Speaker 2: Again, I wake up every day.

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Speaker 5: And I bet on sports and I talk about it,

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Speaker 5: and then I bet on more sports.

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Speaker 2: And I talk about it. So I'm again, I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna act like I'm gonna win the Nobel Prize over here.

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Speaker 2: I like oscill late. You know, it makes sense right there.

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Speaker 2: We'll start off with a mature example. I would say

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Speaker 2: that's Rory McElroy because in Day two of the Masters

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Speaker 2: he went six under and that was a great, great

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Speaker 2: sign that this dude, he showed a lot of maturity

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Speaker 2: because at the end of day one he melted down.

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Speaker 2: He double bogied two of the final four holes, and

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Speaker 2: that was on day one, and so typically younger Rory

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Speaker 2: would melt freaking down day two with the Masters, like

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Speaker 2: he double bogied two of the final four holes in

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Speaker 2: the first round. Second round, he shoots six under like

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Speaker 2: when he was when he was younger, he probably would

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Speaker 2: have let that affect him and it would have messed

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Speaker 2: up the next day. But he played great, played great

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Speaker 2: yesterday and he's writing the thicket thing. So for Rory

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Speaker 2: to rebound from a horrible ending to day one, to

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Speaker 2: be writing the thicket things. I thought that showed a

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Speaker 2: lot of maturity from him.

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Speaker 4: I agree, and Rory will see how the turn and

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Speaker 4: finishes for him. But this has been a problem, as

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Speaker 4: you've mentioned over the years with Rory. He gets off

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Speaker 4: he's hitting more fairways in regulation and greens in regulation

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Speaker 4: than the rest of the field, and then all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, something happens, and it leads to another something,

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Speaker 4: and it leads to another something, and comes Sunday, he's

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Speaker 4: no longer in the discussion or and this has happened

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Speaker 4: in majors, this has happened in Augusta. He's in the

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Speaker 4: conversation or even one of the top five players in

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Speaker 4: the field come Sunday, and at some point he unravels.

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Speaker 4: Look golf, as we all know, as anybody who's ever

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Speaker 4: the sport is mental. And you could say that about

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Speaker 4: a lot of sports. There's a lot of skill involved

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Speaker 4: It's you against the course. You don't even really have

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Speaker 4: to worry about your opponents. You just have to control

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Speaker 4: the controllables, and when you're when you feel out of control,

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Speaker 4: like we've seen Rory look at many times throughout his career,

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Speaker 4: it's really difficult to try to like put the thread

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like the odds are saying that he's the favorite

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Speaker 5: right now with Bryson. You know, Scotty kind of had

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Speaker 5: a little mini meltdown yesterday on I think it was

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Speaker 5: you know, to get a ruling on his ball, and

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Speaker 5: it ended up you know, he had to play.

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Speaker 2: It from that spot and had to give give a

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Speaker 5: But still, I think there's definitely a part of me

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Speaker 5: that feels like this is Rory's moment. I've heard a

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Speaker 5: lot of very smart golf people say that this is

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Speaker 5: this is the time. And then you had that really

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Speaker 5: was like, oh yeah, this is this is a sign

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Speaker 5: from the universe, like Rory, this is Rory's real weak

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Speaker 5: and and you know, I think people look too much

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Speaker 5: into that has absolutely nothing to do with the outcome

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Speaker 5: of events. But I understand the excitement around, you know,

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Speaker 5: or the you know, the feel good moments that you know,

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Speaker 5: people like to see, and then hope Rory continues that

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Speaker 5: over the weekend. In terms of what actually matters, He's

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Speaker 5: a little bit off his chipping game and putting game

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Speaker 2: The short game has not been as crisp, and I think.

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Speaker 5: That's gonna be if that is what does him in

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Speaker 5: in the end, whereas Bryson has been much more consistent

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Speaker 5: in that regard. I mean, Justin Rose has been ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he can keep it up. Scheffler's in.

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Speaker 5: I think Scotty like if if you're telling me, Scott,

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Speaker 5: he's been the three shots of a lead of a

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Speaker 2: Good he's gonna win. But I don't know if this

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Speaker 5: I think we're like at eighty five percent Scheffler, so

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Speaker 5: I think that's where maybe this is Rory's moment. But

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Speaker 5: my pick for the weekend is Bryson. I think he

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Speaker 5: looks the best. I think he looks the strongest, and

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Speaker 5: he's just his short game, his putting, everything is pretty

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Speaker 5: much locked in right now.

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Speaker 2: So Rory would be a really feel good story.

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Speaker 5: But I think Bryson's got a little bit more juiced

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Some of the interviews yesterday in the clubhouse after the

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Speaker 2: second round were really good. We'll get to some Bryson sound.

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Speaker 2: I know you love you some Deshambo over there, Jared,

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Speaker 2: you know he's playing very well. He talked about his

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Speaker 2: putting being better. Justin Rose had a great quote about

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Speaker 2: not strangling the moment. But I also thought Rory gave

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Speaker 2: a great great quote. The question was really good from

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Speaker 2: Scott van Pelt and it's a portion of what Rory said.

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Speaker 2: But check out what Rory had to say about hopefully

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Speaker 2: this master is being different than the other ones he's

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Speaker 6: Here you go, you've done this before, You've been in

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Speaker 6: similar positions before. We all know the next thirty six

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Speaker 6: holes is on your plate and no one else's What

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Speaker 6: do you do from here to hopefully get back here

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Speaker 6: Sunday night, understanding that you've done all this so often.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I got to remind myself I'm playing well.

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Speaker 2: I've got the experience. I love that first part of this,

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Speaker 2: like what he said right here again, I gotta remind

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Speaker 2: myself I'm playing well. I gotta remind myself like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're playing pretty. Remember the old SNL skit where you

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Speaker 2: look in the mirror and the same cash darn it,

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Speaker 2: people like people like, but it's so important. What was

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Speaker 2: the thing that you wrote, Jared, Remember like a gambling

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Speaker 2: thing where you wrote something on a folder or a

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Speaker 2: reminder that you're good enough at what you have.

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Speaker 5: What was there on my computer that says you're doing

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Speaker 5: a great job. And I screenshot all of the positive

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Speaker 5: things on social media that people say about me, and

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Speaker 5: I drop it in the folder because most days people

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Speaker 5: say negative things and I have to remind me that's right,

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Speaker 2: There you go well, and especially in golf, you need

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Speaker 2: to do the same thing. And I love what Rory said.

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Speaker 2: I got to remind myself I'm playing well, like I'm

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Speaker 2: playing well enough to win this tournament. I'm good enough

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Speaker 2: to have unshakable confidence as a golfer. I think it's

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Speaker 2: different than other sports where you need other people to

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Speaker 2: believe in you. Right, that helps a lot. That can

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Speaker 2: be a big shot in the arm. But in golf,

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Speaker 2: you have got to believe in yourself because if you're

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Speaker 2: you reason after reason, example after example to doubt yourself

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Speaker 2: I thought that was huge. What's the famous thing from

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Speaker 2: Bobby Jones where golf is mainly played on a five

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Speaker 2: inch course the space between your ears? Yeah, like just

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Speaker 2: that part of I've got to remind myself I'm playing well.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the most simple thing, but to have

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Speaker 2: that confidence it's huge. It's everything to have a chance

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I'm so glad you focused on the front

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Speaker 4: end of that sentence, because that is the whole game

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Speaker 4: right there. It's about constantly reminding yourself of these little

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Speaker 4: things you can't forget, Like you know, I mean, it

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Speaker 4: could be something as simple of as like. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm starting to sweat a little bit. This is when

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Speaker 4: I need to tighten my grip up.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: You know it's a slight downhill, lie, I gotta make

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Speaker 4: on the club face. This way I don't sail the green,

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Speaker 4: all right. You gotta remember there's a downhill approach toward

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Speaker 4: this hole, but I gotta keep it right because if

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Speaker 4: it goes left of the hole, it's going into the

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Speaker 4: water hazard. There's all these things you can't forget, but

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Speaker 4: the most important thing you can't forget as a golfer

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Speaker 4: is that you belong there. Is that you're one of

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Speaker 4: the best in the world if you're Rory McElroy. And

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Speaker 4: it's difficult when again, you're not playing against anybody. The

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Speaker 4: only person you have as refuge, your safe house is

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Speaker 4: your caddie, who may or may not give you what

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Speaker 4: you need in the moment. You have to be so

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Speaker 4: unbelievably self reliant, and you have to. You're the only

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Speaker 2: so John Morant has a new grenade celebration.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, that's where That's where we're at right at.

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Speaker 2: For a milli second, I'm like, oh, it's rebellious, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So they played the Nuggets last night. He did that

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Speaker 2: Then then he did the grenade. With five minutes left,

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Speaker 4: it hammers home to me how selfish? Jai is like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Great, you have another four guys on the court with

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Speaker 3: Jah.

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Speaker 4: You know, you have a team and this silliness, which

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Speaker 4: going to cost your teammates something. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's gonna cost them an opportunity to tell their

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Speaker 3: Who Jah played with.

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Speaker 4: It's it's selfish, and I don't want to make it,

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Speaker 4: you know, sound like, oh, you know, just because he's

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 4: But it's a symptom of a bigger illness because it's

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Speaker 4: if you're trying to coach this guy, that's all you

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Speaker 5: even if they get peak Jaw.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on with this guy. I

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Speaker 2: Like like like what like I think now he's doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's just it's.

433
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Speaker 5: Like when your mom says, like when you have a

434
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Speaker 5: side of sibling growing up, younger sibling, and your mom's like,

435
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 5: don't touch her, and then you put your finger like

436
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 5: right up next to her and you're like, oh, I'm

437
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 5: not touching you. I'm not touching you. Like like that's

438
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Speaker 5: what it reminds me of. Like it's just so childish.

439
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 5: And I understand that he's still a young guy, but

440
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 5: he's not that young. It's not like he's eight years

441
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 5: old playing his first basketball game and he's running around

442
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 5: the court like an idiot. Like it's just I don't understand, Like,

443
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 5: and and now you have to question the advice that

444
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 5: he's getting because you know that he was in his

445
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 5: in his crib hanging out with his boys, and he's like, hey,

446
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 5: how do we do this? Like this was obviously planned

447
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 5: and premeditated. So I just I don't know.

448
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: I really I've lost the words to really logically.

449
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 5: Explain what's going on in his head because I can't

450
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Speaker 5: even fathom why he would go down this road.

451
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Speaker 2: Well, he explained the grenade celebration, and take this for

452
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: what it's worth, he said, it's not what you think

453
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: it is I'm gonna take my words. I'm gonna throw

454
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 2: them out there, and then I'm going to block out

455
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: the noise. So that's it. He's throwing. It's not a grenade,

456
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: it's he's throwing his words, and then he's he's not listening.

457
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 2: It's like that.

458
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 5: I'm sure he was hanging out with his boys, like,

459
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,479
Speaker 5: how can we cook this up?

460
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Speaker 3: Do what?

461
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like I'm howl this poet, poet?

462
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: What we honestly, you know what we need from you,

463
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: Billy Shakespeare is you need you to hit a couple

464
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: more jump shots.

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Speaker 3: That's it about yourself. That's that. Brian.

466
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Speaker 4: I'm so glad you brought that up because I was

467
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Speaker 4: going to go into his explanation for it as well.

468
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: It's just as ridiculous as the act itself. When I

469
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 4: was sitting in team meeting rooms with with the Patriots

470
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Speaker 4: when I was a rookie and Bill Belichick was telling

471
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Speaker 4: us exactly what the expectations.

472
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: Were for all of us.

473
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Speaker 4: The focus of a lot of those conversations in the

474
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 4: squad room, we're about the team. He used a lot

475
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: of we and us. It was about building this camaraderie.

476
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 4: It's us against the rest of the universe, the people

477
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 4: in here. You need to be able to rely on

478
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 4: them the most, because when the chips are down and

479
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 4: we've got our back against the wall, you're gonna have

480
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 4: to look side by side and you have to find

481
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Speaker 4: out the solutions to the problems together. And the problem

482
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Speaker 4: I have with a guy who's playing a team sport

483
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Speaker 4: who's giving an explanation like that is Okay, look, you're

484
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: the rest of your teammates in the in the eye,

485
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: and explain that to them when you foul out, because

486
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 4: you're getting you're getting teed up for something stupid and

487
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: you're costing him a game that could be important.

488
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Jared.

489
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Speaker 4: It is a long road to get from a playing

490
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Speaker 4: round to a championship, but we saw the Lakers do

491
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: it recently, so it can happen. It's sometimes the dice

492
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 4: rolls in your favor, injuries on the side, you got

493
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: a couple players playing out of their mind, you never

494
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: know what can happen.

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Speaker 3: Will they win a championship in my opinion, most.

496
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Speaker 4: Likely not, But it has more to do with the

497
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 4: fact that their leadership at their best right position is

498
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Well that's The thing is Josh said, that's my

500
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: celebration now until someone else has a problem with it,

501
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: and I'll find another one. And that's it's not just

502
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: what he's doing, it's the thought behind what he's doing.

503
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: Where it's not just job being rebellious, it's Josh saying

504
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm the victim here. You know, watch how everybody hates

505
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: on Joh for no reason. I'm just going about my

506
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: business and watch someone have a problem with this too,

507
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: poor me. That that's a big part of why he's

508
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: doing what he's doing. And rich you're a father, you

509
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: could absolutely relate to this. This is what a kid does.

510
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: This is what Jared was just explaining is jo is

511
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 2: constantly testing where the line is and what he can

512
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Speaker 2: get away with. That's what a kid does. Is the

513
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Speaker 2: life here? No?

514
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: Not quite?

515
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: Is the line here? Yeah you went over the line? Okay,

516
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 2: but is it here? It's like, that's what a kid does,

517
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: and that's what Jah is. He's a kid. And you

518
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: could look and say, well, he's twenty five, he's very young.

519
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: He's acting like he's five. You gotta grow up. There's

520
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 2: just no reason for this. Last night I was watching

521
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: NBA TV. It's interesting because Isaiah Thomas, the Piston's great

522
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: he had a huge problem with Lebron warming up before

523
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: the game without a shirt on, and he was like,

524
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Speaker 2: what are we doing over here? This is this isn't

525
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: summer league, this isn't the why the NBA? What are

526
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: we doing? You don't have a shirt on? And what

527
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: are we doing? Like basically that's what he was saying.

528
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: But he was like the lack of professionalism in the

529
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: NBA today And that was an extreme example. But I

530
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: wonder what if you take that and apply it to

531
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: John doing the grenade celebration after he was warned and fined,

532
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Speaker 2: and it's like, what are you doing? There is no

533
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: mature explanation of guys, you're overreacting. There just isn't one.

534
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: That's just childish and unnecessary. That's just what it is.

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00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: And by the way, you know, there's a lot of

536
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 4: people would be like, oh, you know, this is just

537
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 4: a bunch of guys taking sports too seriously. And the

538
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: result of this is, you know, Jah is just a

539
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: young guy in his mid twenties having fun, making a

540
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: ton of money, and if this is the way he

541
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 4: wants to do it, he's old enough to do what

542
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: he wants to do, So why does it bother you

543
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 4: so much? Look, here's the funny thing about sports. It's

544
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 4: a culture that we all share. Like, if you maxed

545
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: out in eighth grade, well, I mean, no shame, that's

546
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: where you tapped out. If you made it to high

547
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: school sports and you made the varsity, okay, you know

548
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: that's what.

549
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: Okay, that was your ceiling, that was your limit.

550
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: If you were lucky enough to play in college, if

551
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: you played professionally at some point, if you participated, even

552
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: just as a specter, even if it was just always

553
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: something you were interested in, you were taught the rules

554
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: of the game. You were taught the rules of engagement.

555
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 4: Everybody was taught the decorum of sport. And there's a

556
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 4: hygiene to it, and it checks itself. And when there's

557
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: a one player who can't seem to play by the rules,

558
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 4: it makes the game no fun. Everybody had the kid

559
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 4: who had the ball, and he came to the court and.

560
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: He called foul on everything, and as soon.

561
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: As he got too upset, he went home with his ball,

562
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 4: and then nobody could play. Because he was selfish, immature,

563
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: he didn't care about the decorum of the sport. Jah

564
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: right now is that tantruming child on the court trying

565
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 4: to play pick up with his friends, but can't get

566
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: out of his own way to see that he's having

567
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: a bigger effect than just himself. That's the problem with this.

568
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: He is sharing a culture with all of us, and

569
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: when somebody does something that's outside the culture, they become

570
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: an outlier. And Jah right now is an outlier and

571
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: it is completely self inflicted. Yeah, he can gaslight somebody else,

572
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 4: but I ain't falling for it because nobody told him

573
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: he had hold guns in social media posts.

574
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: He did that.

575
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: And guess what, It is expressly written in your contract

576
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: that if you do something detrimental to conduct wise to

577
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: the league, they can find you and suspend you.

578
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: So they did. They even gave him a warning, and

579
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: he did it again.

580
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: And then for him to continue down this road of

581
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: celebrating like he's shooting a firearm and then to throw

582
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: a grenade and then, like a poet, try to write

583
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: it off as oh these are my words exploding all

584
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: over the mass.

585
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: Shut off jaw. It's just dumb. It's immature.

586
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: You're taking your ball and you're running home with it,

587
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: and you're crying to mom and dad, and you're saying, Yeah,

588
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: the NBA is too mean. It's all about them, and

589
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: they're not making it enough about me. Buddy, You've shared

590
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 4: the court with a lot of people, You've played by

591
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: a lot of different rules, You've had a lot of

592
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: different coaches.

593
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: Maybe just show up and play hm hmm.

594
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: Trying to think of what jaw would be like on

595
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: the golf.

596
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: Course, trying to keep calm when things are going wrong.

597
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: That's where my head's at right now. No, I for

598
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 5: the record, I don't have a problem with Lebron shirtless.

599
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 5: Aren't the offensive lineman and all those crazy guys on

600
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: the NFL play you know, shirtless working out in like

601
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 5: the you know ten degree you know warm ups when

602
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 5: they're trying to show that they're not, you know.

603
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 2: Phased by the cold.

604
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 5: Like I don't hear an outcry about that, Like isn't

605
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 5: the arena closed during warm ups anyways?

606
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: Like there's not even any fans in the building, Like

607
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I didn't. I don't know why.

608
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 5: That's a weird hill to die out for Isah Thomas.

609
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't really have much to add to

610
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 5: the JAH thing. I think I think Rich really summed

611
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 5: it up well, I mean, we just have to move

612
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: on as a society from from this immaturity.

613
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Speaker 2: And and I don't think he's he's at that level yet.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

615
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Speaker 2: with Lebron, you guys hear about this. This is more

622
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: of a goofy thing, but he is a Kenbassador. He

623
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: like that? What has that? Never heard of that? So

624
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: he is the first pro athlete to become a Ken

625
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: doll in the Barbie universe. The first one movie the

626
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: Barbie movie was Ambassador. Yeah. Yeah, Well you can get

627
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: this very if you're interested in this two days from now,

628
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Speaker 2: April fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: Right.

630
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: So, the Barbie signature Lebron James Kenbassador doll that's available

631
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Speaker 2: at certain stores the Target, Amazon, Walmart, and it starts

632
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: at seventy five bucks. What seventy what for a toy?

633
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what, if you are a collector,

634
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: run out and get you one of these, because there

635
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: I I know a bunch of Actually, we have a

636
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: guy who works at Fox Sports Radio, Mike Harmon, who

637
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: you know, great hosts but also an avid baseball card collector.

638
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: He's got memorabilia that this feels like one of those

639
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: things that will probably end up being.

640
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: A limited time only.

641
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: So if you get your hands on one, leave it

642
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: in the box, do not damage the original packaging, put

643
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: it somewhere for twenty five years, and it might turn

644
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: you a profit on eBay at some point.

645
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, I actually don't hate this.

646
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 4: I think among all the stories about how pros market

647
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: themselves in different ways, making yourself into a Ken Doll man,

648
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: that's pretty cool. As long as this Ken doll does

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Speaker 4: not warm up with his shirt off prior to.

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Speaker 3: Games, that is right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll bang that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess seventy five bucks in today's society

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Speaker 5: is not as much as probably when I was playing

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Speaker 5: with Legos back.

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Speaker 3: In the day.

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Speaker 2: By the way, legos are pretty expensive too. Toys are

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Speaker 2: not cheap today.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you dealt with it. Like when I buy

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Speaker 5: toys for my for my nieces and nephews for their birthdays.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, goodness, gracious. Yeah, Well, and the Barbie thing,

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Speaker 2: you know, to take it a step further, there have

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Speaker 2: in the Barbie universe, right, They've had their their image

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Speaker 2: And how about this, I love my favorite nugget of

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. The James doll is one inch taller

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think it's fine, Like, hey, market yourself

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Speaker 2: in a different way. You're the first to do it.

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Speaker 2: I was the only problem with that, but price, I

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Speaker 2: It's Jared theme Smith. I don't know if you know

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Speaker 2: that Theme is his middle name, but he's got the

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Speaker 2: theme for us here today.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I'm like the party guy, you know,

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Speaker 5: like I'm always planning.

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Speaker 3: A good theme. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: We're going toga here. It's a toga.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, maybe we'll call it breakfast in base knocks.

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Speaker 2: How about that base hits hit parade?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's a bunch of different ones you can do.

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Speaker 5: We're just gonna give you a major League baseball player

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Speaker 5: to get one hit today, just one. All we need

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Speaker 5: is one hit, and I'm gonna go with Jackson Cherio

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Speaker 5: of the Milwaukee Brewers. Why well, it's got a twelve

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Speaker 5: game hits streak or excuse me, thirteen lucky thirteen game

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Speaker 5: hit street to start the season, one of the longest

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Speaker 5: active streaks in baseball, nineteen base knocks fifty eight A

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Speaker 5: b's for Jackson this year, he faces Corbyn Burns today,

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Speaker 5: and I know you're like, wait a minute, Jackson Vigerio

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Speaker 5: plays for the Brewers.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Corn Burns Pitchford Births. Yes, he used to.

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Speaker 5: Now he pitches for the Diamondbacks actually, and he has

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Speaker 5: not had a good start in his first two outings

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Speaker 5: with Arizona, almost a six ERA, So a little bit

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Speaker 5: of a revenge matchup today. Nobody knows Corbyn Burns better

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Speaker 5: than the Milwaukee Brewers. And I think we're gonna see

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Speaker 5: Jackson Cheerio get a base hit against Milwaukee today.

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Speaker 2: Choose me against Arizona today.

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Speaker 3: Former Rocke like it.

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Speaker 4: I'm going with Fernando Tatist, junior Padres player. He's off

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Speaker 4: to one of the hottest starts in baseball. Hitting over

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Speaker 4: he's tiring over a three seventy five average last fifteen games,

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Speaker 4: twelve hits last seven games, nine He's he's averaging more

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Speaker 4: than a hit a game right now, Padres facing the

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Speaker 4: Rockies at home. He's been better at home hitting the ball,

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Speaker 4: seeing the ball than he has been on the road.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, give me FTJ for the win.

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Speaker 3: FTJ, ft W.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna get a hit today against Colorado.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Randy A. Rosarina, former cardinal, former cardinal.

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Speaker 2: They let him go for like a you know, a

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Speaker 2: box of baseballs. Yeah, but I'm gonna take him against

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Speaker 2: the Rangers today. Rocker off to a bit of an

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Speaker 2: if he start right for the Rangers. So I'll go

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Speaker 2: with the ros Orraina to get a hit. It's minus

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Speaker 2: a dollar fifty five, so you know, I think it's

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Speaker 2: a decent price for a parlay platter right where there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of juice but involved in a platter

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Speaker 2: not horrible. So I think the odds are in his

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Speaker 2: favor to get a hit. I'll go with Randy A. Rosarina. So, Jared,

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Speaker 2: you have the payout here.

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Speaker 5: We're at least at four to one range, right, like

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Speaker 5: we're no, no.

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Speaker 2: Not quite there plus one eighty three. We're a little nay.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know, Pat jis is like a three

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Speaker 5: is like a minus three hundred Jackson Cherio is like

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Speaker 5: a minus two to eighty and ranny. Actually, actually you

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Speaker 5: know you're the bargain basement guy here.

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Speaker 2: You're minus one sixty on on a rose Arraine.

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Speaker 5: So the thing with hit parlays is I do like

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Speaker 5: to space them out by time, because certain books also

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Speaker 5: offer unders on hit parlays, so like if you if

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Speaker 5: you wait, like this is just like a strategy, like

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Speaker 5: I we do this a lot with with parlays, Like

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Speaker 5: I'd like to space them out faced off of time

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Speaker 5: because if you get to the last leg, you could

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Speaker 5: just come back on an under and get yourself a little.

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Speaker 2: Middle vibe there. But yeah, I don't. I don't have

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Speaker 2: a problem with a plus one eighty three and hip

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Speaker 2: hoar Ley.

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Speaker 5: It's sometimes it's you don't realize how easy it is

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Speaker 5: to get a hit, like little dribbler down the line,

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Speaker 5: God beats it out, like like there's so many ways

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Speaker 5: to get a hit. I think the total bases prop

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Speaker 5: is the one that really turns me off because it's

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Speaker 5: just I would rather do hits or hits plus runs

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Speaker 5: plus RBIs the h R R. Those are the two

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Speaker 5: batter props I like the most. I don't like home

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Speaker 5: run props those have been juiced to high heaven and

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Speaker 5: the total bases are just a little clunky. So hits

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Speaker 5: or hr R those are the batter props in baseball.

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Speaker 2: I like the target, dude. I'll tell you, yes, you

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Speaker 2: can easily get a hit. That's obvious. But you'll think

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Speaker 2: heading into a certain matchup with a certain player, you're like,

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Speaker 2: just a base knock, Yeah, it's in. I'man come on this,

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Speaker 2: see and then nine an hour fastball heater right down,

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Speaker 2: No problem, he'll have a sack fly and it's all

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Speaker 2: we're still chasing a hit. Then it gets pitched around

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Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, So the hr R because you

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Speaker 2: get credit for.

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Speaker 5: The runs and the RBIs it's like your job as

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Speaker 5: a baseball player is to get on bays, driving runs

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Speaker 5: and score runs. The h r R prop on bet

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Speaker 5: MGM is a in my opinion, is like the the Filet.

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Speaker 2: Mignon of batter prompts. I'll see I like that one, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you don't get back door. And I had Jose

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Speaker 2: Who did I have last? I can't remember who I had,

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Speaker 2: but it was just disgusting where he got pitched around

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Speaker 2: twice and I'm like, he's got four at bats. What

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Speaker 2: are we doing over it?

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Speaker 3: All? Right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up back, it's another installment of unintended consequences. We

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Speaker 2: shall explain. Coming up. Ah, welcome in Happy Saturday to you.

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Speaker 2: We get to the land of unintended consequences here momentarily.

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Speaker 2: Nico IAmA Lava, that is right, the former Tennessee quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So this escalated quickly. Yeah, So we got news yesterday

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Speaker 2: that he didn't show up to practice and he was

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Speaker 2: holding out for a better nil deal, right, he wanted

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Speaker 2: more money, So we skipped Tennessee's practice. And then today

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Speaker 2: we have word that Tennessee head coach Josh Hipel he

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Speaker 2: informed the team that Nico is out. We're moving on

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Speaker 2: life without Nico IAmA Layava and so it's like, okay, wow,

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Speaker 2: all right, So first things first, I would put it

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Speaker 2: this way. People are gonna freak out and be like,

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Speaker 2: this is college football and we've got holdouts. Now you're

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Speaker 2: holding out for more cash that people are gonna have

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Speaker 2: a huge problem with it. I'm pro player on this

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Speaker 2: where if a player has leverage and decides to utilize

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Speaker 2: that leverage to get more cash, don't be shocked if

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Speaker 2: that happens. I mean, it's just like, shrug your shoulders.

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Speaker 2: It's happening again. In the NFL. That's the way it goes.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to play hardball to get paid, So

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Speaker 2: don't be surprised when college players do that. And Nico

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Speaker 2: thought that he had the leverage. Turns out he didn't,

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Speaker 2: it turns out. But just the concept of if you

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Speaker 2: have the leverage and you're gonna utilize it, I really

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Speaker 2: don't have a problem with that. It's an unintended consequence

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Speaker 2: of Nil gonna overreact like I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people will.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The problem with Nico is he just didn't have the

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Speaker 2: leverage he thought he had and now he's out of

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Speaker 2: his gig. He threw nineteen touchdown passes last season, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. And Tennessee is like he's looking

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Speaker 2: for four mil. No no, no time to turn the page.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on with this. But I

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Speaker 2: just Initially, I wouldn't overreact to a holdout what a

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Speaker 2: lot of people will because it's foreign in college football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I think that nil has opened a door

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Speaker 4: of possibilities for players, and it's opened up a whole

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Speaker 4: Pandora's box for athletic departments and coaches alike. Nobody loves

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Speaker 4: the fluidity of players, except for the players having options,

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Speaker 4: having an ability to chase a higher paycheck elsewhere. Those

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Speaker 4: are things that well, I mean, very similar to free

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Speaker 4: agency in professional sports. College football players and basketball players

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Speaker 4: have been able to enjoy and exploit. And it's something,

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Speaker 4: quite frankly that every time I hear a coach really

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Speaker 4: complain about this, especially when it's a coach who has

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Speaker 4: in the past jumped ship on a team or teams

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Speaker 4: to chase more money, more prestigious opportunities. It falls on

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Speaker 4: deaf years because they would do it for their family.

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Speaker 4: So why is it any different for a player doing

862
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: it for his future or his current family. Some of

863
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: these guys do have kids, some of these guys do

864
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 4: get married in college, and so I don't see any different.

865
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: This is a.

866
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: Player who is of legal age to go and fight

867
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: in a war. You know what, I mean, for the

868
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: most part, we're talking about eighteen to twenty two year

869
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: old players. I mean there's obviously some outliers, some younger

870
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 4: most of the time they're not, but some older for sure,

871
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 4: because like we know with the NCAA, there are a

872
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: lot of different reasons why players get their eligibility extended.

873
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: I see no problem with somebody who's legal age to

874
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: vote and go fight for this country to earn a

875
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: living playing football, and if that's at the collegiate level,

876
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: so be it.

877
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: Coaches jump ship on teams all the time.

878
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: The fact that Eya Malava is leaving Tennessee, it's his

879
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: right to do so, and it's a part of the

880
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: culture right now, and the best coaches are going to

881
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 4: find a way to coach with these obstacles in the way.

882
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 5: I am A leaving his name should be I am

883
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: A leaving. I mean sorry, I'm sorry. That's my corny

884
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 5: dad joke of the day. So I'll bring you some

885
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 5: numbers and then you could tell me if the juice

886
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 5: is worth to squeeze. So this is actually a tweet

887
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 5: that our Fox Sports call it Chris Filica the Bear,

888
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 5: sent out yesterday when the news first broke that he

889
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 5: didn't attend practice. So last year Nico through nineteen touchdown passes.

890
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: Eleven came against Chattanooga, UTEP and Vanderbilt. Four of the

891
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 5: nine in conference play came against Bandy. So he's asking

892
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 5: for Filet Mignon prices and he's given you Chuck Steak output.

893
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 5: I mean, he's asking for QB one money in the SEC.

894
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: The problem is, I have sellers from South Carolina. I've

895
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: got Lagway from Florida.

896
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 5: I even got Smyer of LSU ahead of Nico and

897
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 5: my SEC quarterback rating.

898
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: So he's asking for QB one money in the SEC

899
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: and he's QB four. He didn't have leverage.

900
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: Brian, you laid it out perfectly, like like that's what

901
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 5: it's the art of the deal negotiations.

902
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: I want this, You're worth this. Can we meet in

903
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: the middle.

904
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: No? Bye?

905
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 5: And I credit Tennessee and Josh Hipel for not caving.

906
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 5: And I do think this is not the last time

907
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 5: we're gonna.

908
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: Hear of a story like this.

909
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 5: I think this is the first domino to fall. This

910
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: isn't the first holdout in.

911
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: College football history.

912
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 5: There's been a couple of lower level ones for smaller,

913
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: you know, guys that are not on Nico's not a

914
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 5: quarterback and he's starting quarterback in the SEC. There's been

915
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 5: a couple guys at Georgia I saw that did this.

916
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 5: There's been a there was another one I think it

917
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 5: was in the Big Ten last year, but not high

918
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 5: level guys, not guys that are gonna you know, breaking news,

919
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 5: you know, Leed Sports.

920
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: Center type of stuff. This won't be the last. That's

921
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: my prediction. It's a pretty easy.

922
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 5: It's like the odds of that are like minus a

923
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 5: thousand that this won't be the last one. I don't

924
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 5: even think it's gonna be the last one this year because.

925
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: The spring portal window opens.

926
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 5: In four days and Nico has now set the bar

927
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 5: to where it's open season on renegotiating transfer portal contracts.

928
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 5: This is where we are in college sports because the

929
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 5: regulations around NIL and the portal have not yet been crystallized.

930
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 5: We are still figuring out the best system for how

931
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 5: these kids are going to move schools. The coaches have

932
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 5: been doing this for years. This is nothing new, but

933
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: now we're in the vibe of the players doing it,

934
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 5: and it's obviously a completely new Pandora's box that we're opening.

935
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 5: But to be fair, like the box has been opened

936
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 5: for the last few years, this is just a new

937
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 5: wrinkle that the box has given us because the holdout

938
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 5: situation is, for the most part, has been a professional

939
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 5: sports vibe. Happens all the time in pro sports, but

940
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 5: now it's being at the collegiate level.

941
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this happened last year. Remember UNLV quarterback mess right

942
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: Luca correct, Yeah, he he left. He red shirted after

943
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: three games, and his representatives told the ESPN he only

944
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: received three thousand dollars of what was verbally promised to

945
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: be one hundred thousand dollars. So after three games he's like,

946
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: I'm red shirting. I'm freaking out of here. And it's like, whoa,

947
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 2: what is happening right now? So there are unintended consequences

948
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: with this. People get all REVVD up about nil and

949
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: see here we go again. We're paying players and this

950
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: is what happens. And I look at it like this.

951
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 2: I've always used this comparison because it just makes sense

952
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: to me. Maybe it will to everybody listening there, or

953
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: at least like, you know, like five people of the

954
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: people listening. You know, I don't know. I think of

955
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: it in terms of let's say you're in a very

956
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: successful band, you know what I mean. So you go

957
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: and you sell out an arena. It generates all this money,

958
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: and the band doesn't get a They don't make any money,

959
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: but they can sell some T shirts, they can sell

960
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: some CDs, they can sell some memorabilia that you can

961
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: make a buck off of your name, image and likeness.

962
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: Like that's the least that should be done over here.

963
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: So Nico essentially was like, hey, we got to up

964
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: the price of these T shirts in CDs. You know,

965
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: I need to make more over here. And it turned

966
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: out where that was not in his best interest, but

967
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: just the concept of trying to get more money, people

968
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: will freak out, like he wants four million dollars. That's

969
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: still a drop in the bucket compared to the money

970
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: that is generated and the players don't get a cut

971
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 2: of it. In college football. Think of the money that's

972
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: generated in the SEC at Tennessee. It is huge money.

973
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: So I know you'll hear he wants four million dollars. Whoa,

974
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: It's like your hairline is just receiving immediately, Like, whoa,

975
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: it's not that much at all in comparison in the

976
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, It's just he didn't have the

977
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: leverage to command that price tag. Yep. But the other

978
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: interesting layer here is I get that Tennessee's pushing back,

979
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: but now all of a sudden, they look in some eyes,

980
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: if you're a recruit, they look a little cheap. They're

981
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: the team that pushes back and doesn't want to pay. Like,

982
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: do you want to be known for that too? That's

983
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: something else you have to consider.

984
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is true.

985
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 4: Because remember when you are a professional football team in

986
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 4: the NFL, or you're a professional basketball team in the NBA,

987
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: and your ownership or your front office does something that

988
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: is a little dubious in terms of, you know, how

989
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: they handle a player and his free agency, or franchise

990
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 4: tagging a player in the NFL, or you know, treatment

991
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: of players overall, you are rated also, you are like, look,

992
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: there are certain NFL franchises where players know, hey, I'm

993
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 4: dealing with the chief franchise, like, there are going to

994
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: be certain players who get paid here, but they are

995
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 4: going to be shortcuts taken. And then there are certain

996
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: NFL franchises who you know they're willing to even overpay

997
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 4: for their talent, and it's just a matter of ownership

998
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: in the front office and the philosophy that they follow. Well,

999
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 4: same is going to happen at the collegiate level. You're

1000
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: gonna have a lot of players or prospects who are

1001
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: going to do their own investigative work on these teams

1002
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 4: and how they handle these types of situation. And also

1003
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 4: it could it could have an impact on you short

1004
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: term or long term.

1005
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: So if you're the coach.

1006
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 4: Of a team or you know now college football teams

1007
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: are hiring general managers. If you're a general manager of

1008
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: a college football team and you you know, quote unquote

1009
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 4: screw over player X in you know, the month of

1010
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 4: April or May, well maybe when you know recruit or

1011
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: portal opportunity B comes up. Well, maybe players be says well,

1012
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: I don't like what you did to player X, so

1013
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna consider your school as a potential

1014
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 4: landing spot. So that is another wrinkle in this situation, Brian,

1015
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 4: And I'm glad you brought it up that it's not

1016
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: just the players who are going to be criticized for

1017
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 4: how they handle these situations. It's the teams and they

1018
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: better get it right.

1019
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 5: I've actually got Nico's QB five in the SEC. I

1020
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 5: got our commanding in front of him too. So you're

1021
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 5: asking for QB one money pal in your QB five.

1022
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 5: I mean, like, it's this is basic, This is negotiation,

1023
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 5: one on one, Like what are you worth? He had

1024
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 5: the thirty eighth ranke QBR last year in the country.

1025
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 5: You're asking for money that no other quarterback is asking

1026
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: for in the country. Like it's just like Carson Beck

1027
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 5: made two and a half million last year, Georgia, You're

1028
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 5: you're a million, million and a half better than Carson Beck.

1029
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 5: And I know Carson Beck. Dion have a great year.

1030
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 5: He was banged up, the receivers were dropping everything. Defense

1031
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 5: wasn't as good. But let's be honest, he's still one

1032
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 5: of the top quarterback prospects.

1033
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: Like I just the juice isn't worth to squeeze.

1034
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 5: And I credit Josh Heipel for saying no, maas right,

1035
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 5: like and I agree with you, Brian, Like Tennessee doesn't

1036
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: want to come off as cheap, but they also don't

1037
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 5: want to come off as frivolous spending money on things

1038
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: that they're not like what it's not worth? Right, Like

1039
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 5: when you know you go to the go back to

1040
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 5: the discussion we just add about Lebron and the Ken doll.

1041
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 5: That Ken doll ain't worth seventy five bucks. To be fair,

1042
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 5: people will pay seventy five bucks for it, but it's

1043
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: not worth that. Nico is not worth what he's asking for,

1044
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 5: and he wasn't willing to meet in the middle because maybe,

1045
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 5: just maybe, And here's the next phase of this story.

1046
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: There's another offer on the table. Mmm, where could it be?

1047
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: Hmm?

1048
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 5: How about Nico's hometown there? And is he from southern California?

1049
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: He's a so Cal guy?

1050
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 5: Right?

1051
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1052
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah? How about those Trojans down there in so Cal?

1053
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: What do you think you think?

1054
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 5: There was maybe a h another offer on the table

1055
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 5: from a big time school, and Nico's like, take it

1056
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 5: or leave it.

1057
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: This is where I'm at. There are a couple of

1058
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: schools like USC UCLA. Yeah I've heard Notre Dame mentioned.

1059
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: Whoo yeah yeah.

1060
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: To me, Like that makes sense to me because I

1061
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 5: was always told you do not leave a job until

1062
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 5: you have another job to go to. So Nico pushed

1063
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 5: all his chips into the middle. This is where I

1064
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 5: want to be. Can you match me?

1065
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: No, all right. Well, and that's the other thing too.

1066
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: You got to start thinking about stuff you've never thought

1067
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: about before, because we'll talk about these contracts in the NFL,

1068
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: like this sets the market. This this new quarterback deal

1069
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: that that's the baseline of you know, a huge extension,

1070
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: YadA YadA, that type of thing. Like there's a whole

1071
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 2: market now with nil and this does it does hurt

1072
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: the market when the next quarterback is looking for the

1073
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: next big nil deal. Okay, yeah, like it impacts the market.

1074
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1075
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: So Carson Beck, he's believed to make about four million

1076
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 2: now that he's at Miami Darien Menso are you like who?

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Speaker 2: He's believed to make around four million? Also, he left Tulane,

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00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: he's now at Duke. So I think Iyama Layava and

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00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: his inner circle right his team, they're like, dude, if

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Speaker 2: that guy's making four million, you're worth four MILLI in

1081
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Speaker 2: the SEC kidding me. And it turned out that is

1082
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: not the case. But we'll see where he lands and

1083
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: if we get any details of what he's making there.

1084
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a whole market now of who makes what,

1085
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: and the next quarterback can say, hey, that guy's making

1086
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Speaker 2: I don't have an issue with it. I know that

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Speaker 2: image and likeness. When you're generating that much money and

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Speaker 2: in to the Draft Night Live. That's on Thursday, April

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth, at eight pm Eastern throughout the first round

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00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 2: of the draft. Insider Jay Glazer, former Jets general manager

1116
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: Joe Douglas, college Football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington, and

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Lead college football reporter Jenny Taft. They'll have pick,

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00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: pick by pick, predictions and reactions to every first round selection.

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Speaker 2: That's Thursday, April twenty fourth, at eight pm Eastern throughout

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Speaker 2: the first round of the Draft, live right here on

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1122
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: so good bad news. Bad news is we don't have

1123
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: Shamus today. He's busy. But good news. I'm gonna guess

1124
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: the Seamous special here. I'm thinking he was gonna take

1125
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: Arsenal and Layford to time. That's what I think he

1126
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: is cheated, cheated, cheating. It's my guess. I don't know

1127
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: if that's true, and I might not have taken that

1128
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:56,919
Speaker 2: at all. That's my best.

1129
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 5: I could have given you a million chances, you never

1130
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 5: would have guessed that it might be right.

1131
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: Right, How about this though, we've got some NFL news

1132
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco to the Browns. Why now you might be like,

1133
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: oh gosh, why is this? But the layers to it

1134
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: are pretty interesting, right, So Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins was

1135
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: rumored to maybe be in play for Cleveland, but his

1136
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: camp wanted to wait until at least after the first

1137
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: round because he didn't want what happened last year to

1138
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: happen again, right, Like, if he goes to Cleveland and

1139
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: then they draft a guy and he's like, oh great,

1140
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: so I get to hold the clipboard again. He didn't

1141
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: want that. And so the Browns are basically like, cool,

1142
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: we'll sign Flacco. We'll just roll with Flacco and Kenny Pickett.

1143
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: And now it's like, where's Kirk gonna go? Maybe the

1144
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 2: Saints if they don't go with the quarterback in the

1145
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: draft that there aren't too many landing spots for Kirk

1146
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: Cousins now, who was tied for the league lead and

1147
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: interceptions last season. But you might not care about Kirk.

1148
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: It also shows you a little bit about Aaron Rodgers

1149
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: right where if Aaron Rodgers pulls a Kirk Cousins and

1150
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: waits a little bit too long, don't be surprised if

1151
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: there isn't a landing spot if he does that. So

1152
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: the clock is ticking, The draft is right around the corner.

1153
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: We'll see between now and April twenty fourth if Rogers

1154
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: is signed, because if he isn't, he is absolutely gambling

1155
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: with Hey, the music stopped and we don't have any

1156
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: chairs for you to sit on here. That could absolutely

1157
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: happen if he doesn't sign in the next week and

1158
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: a half.

1159
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 4: And it's very difficult to get inside of a player's mind,

1160
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: especially when they're not with a team, they're not affiliated

1161
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 4: with a football program, because with the program, with the

1162
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 4: franchise comes whatever level of you know, predictability or I mean,

1163
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 4: I guess this makes it sound really bad, but brainwashing

1164
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: that comes with it. When you're with the franchise, you

1165
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: kind of drink the kool aid and you become a

1166
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 4: little bit more predictable. When you're not, when you are

1167
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 4: a player who's choosing his free agency destination, you're on

1168
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 4: your own and you may close the circle. So it's

1169
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: just a few people who are in on the decision

1170
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 4: making process.

1171
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: And I imagine that's the case with Aaron Rodgers.

1172
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: I will say, though it's my guess, but I'll guess

1173
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 4: that Aaron Rodgers is just fine being unsigned right now.

1174
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 4: You know, this is a guy who, whether you want

1175
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 4: to believe, he's still recovering from an injury because of

1176
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: how quick it looked like the trajectory he was on,

1177
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: you know, two years ago when he initially ruptured his achilles.

1178
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: I promise you he's still recovering from that injury. You know,

1179
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 4: surgeries take a while to heal completely. And I think

1180
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 4: that he battled through some of what was left over

1181
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 4: from the recovery process last year playing that season.

1182
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: So I think that's part of it. His age is

1183
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: a part of it.

1184
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 4: He's not going to move off of his couch for

1185
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 4: an opportunity that you know, for example, Joe Flacco just

1186
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 4: signed too. I don't think he wants to be a

1187
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 4: bridge quarterback. I think he wants to be the guy.

1188
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 4: And so he's gonna have to wait for a team

1189
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 4: that has an actual shot, has an actual pulse or

1190
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 4: a heartbeat to make some noise in the NFL playoff

1191
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 4: or at very least on the on the preseason. On

1192
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: the outset, looking at the preseason, you say, oh, they

1193
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 4: got a shot.

1194
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: You know that's a potential playoff team.

1195
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna wait for one of those opportunities

1196
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 4: to arise and then he's gonna sign. Otherwise, he may

1197
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: go unsigned all the way through the draft, all the

1198
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 4: way through training camp. Who knows, maybe we'll start the

1199
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 4: season and he still won't have a seat in the

1200
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 4: musical chairs you were talking about. Be no.

1201
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: So here are my predictions.

1202
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 5: You guys want to record this in the back bow,

1203
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 5: we can play it back in a few weeks. Aaron

1204
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 5: Rodgers will not sign with anyone before the draft. Why

1205
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 5: because he doesn't want a situation with Kirk Cousins to

1206
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 5: happen to him. And Pittsburgh is very hot and heavy

1207
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 5: on sh door right now. Pittsburgh's hot and heavy on

1208
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 5: a quarterback Milroe Jackson Dart. Why would Aaron like if

1209
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 5: I'm not I can't get inside of Aaron rodgers head

1210
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 5: no one can. But if I was Aaron and I

1211
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 5: had just taken this whole tour of the Steelers facility,

1212
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 5: and then I got to peek at their draft plans,

1213
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 5: and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm gonna sign with

1214
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 5: you now, and then you're gonna draft a quarterback in

1215
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 5: two weeks.

1216
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not cool with that.

1217
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 5: So I don't think Aaron will sign before the draft.

1218
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 5: I think he will sign before OTA's that makes sense

1219
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 5: to me. But I think he wants to let the

1220
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 5: landscape settle and see which team really needs a quarterback,

1221
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 5: which team didn't get the first round quarterback that they coveted,

1222
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 5: and then make his decision from there. The Derek Carr

1223
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 5: injury yesterday flipped all of this on its head. So

1224
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 5: I was actually on the air yesterday when that news broke,

1225
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 5: and I sprinted to the bet MGM app to wager

1226
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 5: on the Saints first drafted player to be a quarterback

1227
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 5: at plus two ten. I blinked and it was minus

1228
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: one twenty. That's how quickly the draft markets move in

1229
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 5: the betting world. I'm hearing a lot of love for

1230
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 5: Shador at nine to New Orleans. There's a lot of

1231
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 5: Kellen Moore connections right, used to coach in Dallas, a

1232
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 5: lot of Cowboys and Sanders connections. I know Chador's from Texas.

1233
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 5: They know like and Kellen Moore and the Cowboys or

1234
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 5: the Saint staff didn't go to Shador's pro day. They

1235
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 5: went to Jackson Darts pro day. But there was plenty

1236
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 5: of opportunities for the Saints and Kellen Moore to visit

1237
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 5: with Shador, and I'm sure there's a lot of back

1238
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 5: channeling going on there. And again, when you've got a

1239
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 5: quarterback that's had that much experience and you have that

1240
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 5: kind of personal connection with him, you don't really need

1241
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 5: to go to his pro day to see if he's

1242
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 5: good or not. So I think Chador to New Orleans

1243
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 5: at nine makes a lot of sense. And then that

1244
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 5: leaves Pittsburgh open to Jalen Nolro Jackson Dart and then

1245
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 5: you get the Aaron Rodgers decision, and then you get

1246
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 5: the Kirk Cousins situation finalized. So Cleveland's holding all the

1247
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 5: cards here. They're gonna take Travis Hunter at two, I'm

1248
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 5: pretty sure of that, and then they're gonna figure out

1249
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 5: a way to get maybe back into the late first round.

1250
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 5: To get another quarterback because they do want to have

1251
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 5: the tiered system with quarterbacks. Right, You've got Joe Flacco,

1252
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 5: the experience veteran. Everything I've heard, they love Kenny Pickett,

1253
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 5: he's the more inexperienced veteran. And then you get the

1254
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 5: rookie and all three of those guys compete for the

1255
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 5: job in camp. Like that makes a lot of sense

1256
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 5: to me. So all of these pieces aren't kind of

1257
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,959
Speaker 5: falling into place. But we're just waiting for the draft

1258
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 5: to play out because I don't think Aaron Rodgers wants

1259
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 5: to sign until he knows what Pittsburgh's gonna do.

1260
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: Hey, you could be right. The funny thing though, too,

1261
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: is look at Minnesota, Right, there's no guarantee that if

1262
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: Rogers went there, like he would be QB one. But

1263
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee he would be QB one all season long,

1264
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: you know, Like JJ McCarthy is a top ten pick.

1265
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: So let's say they get off to a rocky start,

1266
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: or they lose a couple of games. Rogers isn't playing great.

1267
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: Is it at least possible that they would make a change. Yeah,

1268
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: it is. It's at least possible. So it's funny like,

1269
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you, Jared, I hear what you're

1270
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: saying about. Maybe he waits till after at least the

1271
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: first round or after the draft, and then he looks

1272
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: to sign. That could play out that way, but it

1273
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 2: seems like right now he would absolutely jump at the

1274
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: shot to be the quarterback of the Vikings. It seems

1275
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 2: like maybe he's waiting for that. Agreed, that's his first choice,

1276
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: one hundred percent agree, right, But even that, there's no

1277
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: one hundred percent lock guarantee your QB one all season law.

1278
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: It's not like they have right, like just some random

1279
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 2: due that's like, that's clearly not your starting quarterback. Like

1280
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy was a top ten pick and if things

1281
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: aren't going swimmingly to team with high expectations they won

1282
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: what fourteen games last season, if it's a little bit rocky, Yeah,

1283
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee. They wouldn't make a change there either,

1284
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 2: So like I wouldn't look at Minnesota is like that's

1285
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: the fortress and I'm QB one for sure. It's like

1286
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee at this point with any of the

1287
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: teams that are left that would employ him.

1288
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 4: The funny thing about Rogers is right now, he looks

1289
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 4: like a little bit of a headache, a little bit

1290
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 4: of a problem, a little bit of a quarterback on

1291
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 4: the decline. Where you look around the NFL and you

1292
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 4: see some of the contracts that were renegotiated, you know,

1293
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 4: brock Purty still waiting. There's a couple of things to

1294
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 4: be sorted out, hammered out before the draft. And then

1295
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 4: also the prospects coming out of college football, which, like

1296
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 4: we know, many times it's hard to tell which guys

1297
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 4: are going to sync and which guys are gonna soar.

1298
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: But when you look at Aaron Rodgers right now, with

1299
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 4: all these options in front of these teams, yeah, maybe

1300
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 4: he looks like chopped liver now.

1301
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: But let's get to training camp. Yep. Let's see one

1302
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 3: of these.

1303
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: Teams who has a legitimate shot to make a playoff

1304
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 4: run lose their starting quarterback. You know, let's get to

1305
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 4: the pre Let's see one of these guys get an

1306
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 4: early season concussion and they play in a competitive division,

1307
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 4: which happens. Look, player quarterbacks get hurt too, It happens.

1308
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 3: All the time.

1309
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 4: Let's see one of these star quarterbacks, you know, throw

1310
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: a football and break a finger on the back of

1311
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 4: somebody's helmet because they got pushed into the pocket. Like

1312
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 4: these things happen, These freak things happens, where all of

1313
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 4: a sudden, you need a band aid for about eight

1314
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 4: weeks of the NFL season. And maybe it doesn't happen

1315
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 4: during the preseason or training camp. Maybe it takes week one,

1316
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: week two, week three, week four, All of a sudden,

1317
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers goes from looking like chopped liver, like an

1318
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 4: afterthought here in April, but come week two of the

1319
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 4: NFL season, with a team that has a legitimate shot

1320
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 4: to either win their division or win a wildcard spot

1321
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 4: at some point as the season continues to unravel, all

1322
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 4: of a sudden, he's looking like the best available option.

1323
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 4: And so I think Aaron Rodgers is playing his cards perfectly.

1324
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 4: And also, like we know, Aaron Rodgers likes to have

1325
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 4: his name in the press. That has been one thing

1326
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 4: that's been majorly consistent. So I agree with Jared. I

1327
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 4: don't think he signs unless the sweetheart situation opens up

1328
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: before the draft. Otherwise he's going to We're going to

1329
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 4: have some sort of little, you know, news item to

1330
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: chew on the weekend of the draft, just like he's

1331
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 4: done many times. He's become the story of the NFL draft,

1332
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 4: like two or three times in recent memory, and I

1333
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 4: could see that happening again this upcoming NFL Draft.

1334
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt he loves the spotlight.

1335
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 5: I think I think the Vikings are not as hot

1336
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 5: on a as Aaron is hot.

1337
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: On the Vikings.

1338
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 3: Right.

1339
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 5: It's like a relationship situation. Usually there's one person that

1340
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 5: likes the spouse more than the other, right, And I

1341
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 5: think that's the vibe with with Aaron and Minnesota.

1342
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: I think Minnesota really likes.

1343
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy, and I think they want to give him

1344
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 5: every chance to win that job. And the veteran that

1345
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 5: they do bring in, I think they want, like I've

1346
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 5: heard Ryan Tannehill's name loaded like that makes more sense

1347
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 5: to me for Minnesota because that's a guy that is

1348
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 5: probably willing to be a tutor, right, like a mentor.

1349
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 5: I don't think Aaron is that guy. And that's why

1350
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 5: I don't think Minnesota is as hot on Rogers as

1351
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 5: Rogers is as hot on the Vikings, because the Vikings

1352
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 5: is the ideal spot.

1353
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 2: I mean, look what Sam Darnold did last year, played

1354
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: like an.

1355
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 5: MVP, for like fifteen sixteen weeks. So I do think

1356
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 5: there's a certain level of complacency with Minnesota because they

1357
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 5: know that they have a good roster and if they

1358
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 5: were right about McCarthy, they don't need Aaron Rodgers. Rogers

1359
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 5: needs the Vikings more than the Vikings need Rodgers, unless

1360
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 5: McCarthy's not as healthy as he needs to be in

1361
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 5: order to get up to speed for week one. I

1362
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 5: think May ish, end of April early May is the

1363
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 5: is the Rogers sweet spot. After the draft settles before

1364
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 5: OTA's I think that's when Aaron will make his decision.

1365
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 5: I think it will be Pittsburgh, unless Pittsburgh takes a

1366
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 5: quarterback in the first round that might turn Aaron off.

1367
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 2: Maybe it's New Orleans.

1368
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 5: I thought Kirk Cousins to New Orleans made sense, but

1369
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if Atlanta would trade in the division. Like,

1370
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 5: there's a lot of moving pieces here that you've got

1371
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 5: to kind of digest. But the Derek Carr injury yesterday

1372
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 5: really pushed the ball forward because now New Orleans, in

1373
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 5: my opinion, is taking a quarterback at nine. And I

1374
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 5: think these quarterbacks just like last year, right, no one

1375
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 5: had Michael Pennox in the top ten. No one had

1376
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 5: bo Nicks go going to Denver in the top fifteen.

1377
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 5: The quarterbacks tend to get taken before you think they're

1378
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 5: going to get taken, and that makes Pittsburgh I think

1379
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 5: they're at twenty somewhere in that range. That makes Pittsburgh

1380
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 5: a little iffy to get a really good quarterback in

1381
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 5: that spot, and that that's when Aaron Rodgers will say, Okay,

1382
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 5: I'm a stealer now. So the draft is going to

1383
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 5: be the pivot point. And I think after the draft

1384
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 5: is when we hear the Aaron Rodgers news.

1385
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: Well, it'd be funny if Rogers is taking his time

1386
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: and it's one hundred percent just muled by football reasons,

1387
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, we're taking it like Rogers

1388
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: loves the spotlight. He loves the drag this thing out

1389
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: and he's like, no, really, it's just football over.

1390
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 5: You're like, it would be funny if that that's gonna

1391
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 5: have the spotlight no matter what, right, Like it's just

1392
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 5: because it's Aaron Rodgers, right, Yeah.

1393
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: But I think that's the other part is he's gambling

1394
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 2: either way. Yep. If he signed today, it's a gamble

1395
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: because you don't know for sure what that team's gonna

1396
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: do in the draft. You might have a rookie who's

1397
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: a first round pick on the same roster, like what

1398
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: happened with Kirk Cousins last year. But if he waits

1399
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: till after the draft, there might be very limited options.

1400
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,919
Speaker 2: And then you're dragging it out and waiting for an injury,

1401
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: like who knows how long that's gonna happen. Who knows

1402
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: what situation that might be. And it might not even

1403
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: be better than Pittsburgh, right, Like you might not have

1404
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 2: one of the contenders suffer an injury, and then you

1405
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 2: have limited ramp up time before the season. Like that's

1406
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 2: a big gamble that way too.

1407
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it is.

1408
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you can overplay your hand in poker,

1409
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

1410
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 3: You could. You could, uh, you could flop what looks like, uh.

1411
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 4: A solid straight look, and you're thinking yourself, like, I

1412
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 4: need one card, I need one card on the turn

1413
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 4: of the river, and I'm gonna beat this table because

1414
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 4: I don't believe you know, so and so has got this.

1415
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 4: I don't believe so and So's got that. And so

1416
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 4: you stick around and all of a sudden you realize

1417
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 4: all right, I'm pot committed, but I know I've got

1418
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 4: a loser in my hand. It's hard to face the

1419
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 4: reality of overplaying your hand. You gotta know when to

1420
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 4: fold them sometimes. And that's what you're talking about, Brian.

1421
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 4: You're talking about coming to the poker table, getting flop

1422
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 4: the hand and saying, eh, you know what, I'm not

1423
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 4: gonna see this pair all the way to the end.

1424
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead, I'm gonna slide these cards back

1425
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 4: to the middle of the table because you know, it's

1426
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,839
Speaker 4: a pair that doesn't have any any any any faces

1427
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 4: on them, you know. And I'm going to play for

1428
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers. But in my opinion, if you're an

1429
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 4: Rogers and you still want to play football, but you

1430
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 4: want to play for a winner, why sign up for

1431
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 4: a situation when you could even take the whole year off,

1432
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 4: like Aaron Rodgers, if he still really wants to play football.

1433
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 4: I mean, the truth of the matter is, I mean,

1434
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is one of the best football players who's

1435
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 4: ever played. If Tom Brady was available to sign not

1436
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 4: every team would be interested in signing him, but somebody

1437
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 4: would be.

1438
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. If all of a sudden

1439
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 3: he made it known.

1440
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 4: I'm coming out of the broadcast booth sometime after the draft.

1441
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 4: I'm available. Somebody would sign him. I'm sure somebody would

1442
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 4: sign Aaron Rodgers right now, but he is at a

1443
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 4: point in his career where he can be a little choosy,

1444
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 4: So it's up to him.

1445
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 3: Does he want to wait? Is he too impatient?

1446
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 4: Does he want to be with the team heading into

1447
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 4: the regular season or into the preseason. We don't know

1448
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 4: the answer to those questions, but I'm saying if if

1449
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 4: he doesn't care about being with the team in the preseason,

1450
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think he's overplaying his hand because there's

1451
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 4: usually a specific need at the quarterback position that comes

1452
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 4: up at some point during the season, and teams that

1453
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 4: are able to bring in a Wilie veteran, a la

1454
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 4: the Browns with Joe Flacco two years ago. It could

1455
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 4: benefit you in a great way, and it can benefit

1456
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 4: the player in a great way.

1457
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 5: Man, if you thought the Nico news was big, Tom

1458
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 5: Brady comes out of retirement was shut down social media?

1459
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 2: Yeah like this.

1460
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 5: See It's it's kind of funny because I think the

1461
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 5: conversation started with with Joe Flacco and we've made it

1462
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 5: all the way to Tom Brady.

1463
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: Like that's that's where the NFL rabbit all those I

1464
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 2: love it.

1465
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it like it. It feels like the top of

1466
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 5: the draft. I'm feeling good about the top of the

1467
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 5: draft now. Like honestly, I started really really digging into

1468
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 5: the mocks over the last few days. Like I think

1469
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 5: Ward Hunter Carter one, two, three, like I feel really

1470
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 5: good about that. I think O line at New England

1471
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 5: makes sense. At five, I think jack Simville goes either

1472
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 5: Warren or Genty, and then probably genty. If Jacksonville goes

1473
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 5: Tyler Warren at five, I think Genty goes six, and

1474
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 5: then the Jets unsure about what the Jets do, and

1475
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 5: I penciled in.

1476
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it'll take like some.

1477
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 5: Water boy from some you know, South Dakota state somewhere,

1478
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 5: no d line.

1479
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: O line makes sense with the culture there.

1480
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 5: And then I think Tyler Warren to Carolina makes sense

1481
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 5: if that slips. And then Shador at nine, I think

1482
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 5: that'll be the next quarterback off the board with the

1483
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 5: ninth pick. I think New Orleans will take Shador and

1484
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 5: then that sets the wheels in motion for Pittsburgh at

1485
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 5: twenty one? Do they want to move up? Do they

1486
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 5: think they can get a quarterback at twenty one that

1487
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 5: they like? Do they like Chador more then Jaln Milroir

1488
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 5: Jackson Dart? Do they like Jackson Dart more than? Like

1489
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 5: the Dart mill Row vibe is now the next piece

1490
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 5: of the quarterback puzzle because I feel confident that Shador

1491
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 5: at nine is going to be a thing. And then

1492
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 5: that's then the next stage of it is Cousins Rogers,

1493
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,839
Speaker 5: and then we see where the chips fall. So the quarterback,

1494
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 5: like the carousel has been spinning. It kind of slowed

1495
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 5: down for the last week or so, and now it's

1496
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 5: spinning again. Like the Derek Carr injury yesterday really pushed

1497
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 5: this thing forward because now teams are like, oh wow,

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Speaker 5: New Orleans is definitely going quarterback at nine. It's gonna

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01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 5: change the dynamic of that top half of the first round.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing though the draft. Who the hell knows?

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01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: Man?

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: Because last year, who was saying, yeah, I know the

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01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: Falcons just signed Kirk Cousins to one hundred million dollar deal.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going Pennocks June Wild. No one thought that,

1505
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Speaker 5: With you with something you like the beautiful waters of

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Speaker 5: And usually after round two, right before round three, Moving

1540
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01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,120
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1543
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 5: four tournament starts and I'll revisit on Friday night Saturday morning.

1544
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 5: So Rory McElroy to shoot seventy or lower, essentially under

1545
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,839
Speaker 5: seventy and a half for his round three score minus

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01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,679
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01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna carry over that momentum from yesterday,

1549
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: and I think Rory gives me two under or better

1550
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 5: on his scorecard today.

1551
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: Seventy or better minus one ten over at bet.

1552
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, wow, I'm going for kind of a long

1553
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 4: shot here, but I love this pick. Paying attention to

1554
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 4: this Padres Colorado Rocky series. It continues at Peco Park,

1555
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 4: which is surprisingly favorable to right handed power hitters, and

1556
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 4: the Rockies have a catcher, Hunter Goodman, off to a

1557
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 4: really good start.

1558
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: He's been seeing the ball well.

1559
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 4: Goodman's gonna face Kyle Hart, pitcher for the Padres, who

1560
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 4: came from the KDO.

1561
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 3: He's off to a rough MLB debut.

1562
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 4: He's getting hit hard, high or I should say really

1563
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 4: big fly ball rate. So this this sets up Goodman,

1564
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: who stands out as a solid home run candidate in

1565
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 4: this matchup. Hunter Goodman plus four eighty to hit a

1566
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: home run today, But I like it.

1567
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 3: I like Clink for the fence.

1568
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: How Holy cow Rich getting crazy? I love it. I'm

1569
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: gonna go with Scotti Scheffler here. You just got to

1570
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: get a birdie on a par three. Oh okay, that's

1571
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,480
Speaker 2: what you're going to those round three specials on MGM too. Huh,

1572
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: that's right, that's right. We got four cracks at it right,

1573
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: four par three holes. He's had two birdies each of

1574
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: the first two rounds on par threes, so we just

1575
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: need one today. What yesterday was compleet luck like it

1576
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: should have been beyond the shrubs in the woods. Somehow

1577
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: bounced out, he chipped it in. It was crazy. But uh,

1578
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 2: maybe he's got luck on his side. He hasn't been

1579
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: playing great yet and he's still birdying par three, so

1580
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: I think that's a good look. It's minus a dollar

1581
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 2: thirty five today. I'll go with that, all right. Coming

1582
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 2: up next the ripple effect of some huge news in

1583
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: this league. Oh what is going on? Happy Sunday to you. Oh,

1584
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 2: we get to an interesting ripple effect here momentarily. You

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Speaker 2: pop up at the top of your screen. Okay, so

1594
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: we talked about it a little bit last hour, but

1595
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: there's more meat on that bone. That would be the

1596
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 2: Derek car potential shoulder surgery needed here his availability for

1597
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: the upcoming season is in jeopardy. And what do you know,

1598
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: we got this thing called the NFL Draft in a

1599
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: week and a half. Oh wow, it's crazy. So yeah,

1600
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 2: that's a big deal right there. Saints obviously picking ninth overall,

1601
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 2: so they could be players in the Shador Sanders market.

1602
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: That's what's really interesting to me is these teams. I

1603
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: was saying this off air to our trusted producer Bo Benson,

1604
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: our technical producer Chris Burffett. I swear we should have

1605
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: a podcast based on our conversations off the air totally.

1606
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 2: We do a show off the year during the show.

1607
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's right.

1608
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 2: Right, Like you look at the Giants third overall, the Saints'

1609
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 2: ninth overall, who knows, maybe even the Steelers twenty first overall.

1610
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: These teams that could take Shaduur, but then are are

1611
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 2: tempted to, like, hey, maybe we're in a better situation

1612
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: come next year's draft. Maybe there's a better scenario. Maybe

1613
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 2: maybe we're in range to pick Arch Manning or a

1614
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: quarterback that we have rated higher. Whatever, Like how you

1615
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 2: weigh those two things. Are you sold on Shaduur or

1616
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: are you tempted by the next year's draft where maybe

1617
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: you're in a better spot. But that's what you're gonna

1618
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: see play out, And that might be a decision that

1619
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 2: the Saints are faced with if Shaduur is still on

1620
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 2: the board at ninth overall.

1621
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 4: The Saints haven't selected a quarterback in the first round

1622
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 4: of the traditional NFL draft in fifty three years.

1623
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 3: Think about that, Think about.

1624
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 4: How many teams have had to now the Saints obviously,

1625
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 4: when they signed Drew Brees, they got themselves a guy

1626
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 4: who was at the time having some shoulder issues who

1627
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 4: turned out to be a Super Bowl champion for them.

1628
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 4: And you know, look, there's been mediocrity at quarterbacks since

1629
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 4: and that includes Derek Carr. I'm not saying Derek Carr

1630
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 4: is a mediocre quarterback, but given the circumstances, the injuries

1631
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 4: that he's had since he's been a New Orleans Saint,

1632
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 4: in and out of the lineup as a healthy candidate,

1633
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 4: the performances and the amount of time he's spent on

1634
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 4: the field has led to mediocre results. He is and

1635
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 4: has been through most of his career a second tier quarterback.

1636
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 4: He dabbles flirts with being a top ten quarterback at times,

1637
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 4: but he's getting older. This is a thirty four year

1638
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 4: old man. It is really difficult to pull on the

1639
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 4: cleats and to live that life and to be that guy.

1640
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 4: The older you get, motivation can wane, It can ebb

1641
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 4: and flow depending on the year and the season and

1642
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 4: the injury that you're dealing with, or the things happening

1643
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 4: in your personal life, whatever it may be. And also

1644
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 4: look after a while, you start looking around the room

1645
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 4: and you say, man, you know, all these defenders are

1646
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 4: getting faster, all these defenses are getting more creative. They

1647
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 4: really have a lot of film on me. The tunnel,

1648
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 4: the aperture that I'm looking through is tighter and tighter

1649
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 4: and tighter. To get the ball where it's supposed to go,

1650
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 4: and I don't have the trademark arm strength or accuracy

1651
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 4: or the zip on the short pass that I used to.

1652
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 3: So you have to.

1653
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:44,440
Speaker 4: Either evolve or you're gonna get left behind. And unfortunately

1654
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 4: for Derek Carr, I felt like that's where we were

1655
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:48,440
Speaker 4: heading anyways.

1656
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 3: And then on top of it, we have this situation.

1657
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 4: So the question of what's next for the Saints, I

1658
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 4: guess I'll spin it back to you guys. Is it

1659
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 4: smart for them to take a first round draft choice

1660
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 4: this year? Or should they punt on the situation and

1661
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 4: try to find a way to bridge the gap and

1662
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 4: then look at a year down the road somewhere to

1663
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 4: fix the problem at quarterback.

1664
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 5: I think the Sanders to New Orleans Steam Israel. We

1665
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 5: even saw Dion tweet it yesterday. It was kind of

1666
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 5: go back and look at Dion's Twitter account when the

1667
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 5: when the car news broke and he did the eye.

1668
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 5: I mean, and you know, that's it's worth what it's worth.

1669
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 5: It's social media, it's public. But I think it just

1670
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 5: it makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot

1671
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 5: of sense by the way that I was looking at

1672
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 5: that stat yesterday because I was trying to figure out

1673
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 5: when the last time the Saints took a quarterback in

1674
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 5: the first round.

1675
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 2: It was Archie Manning. It was Archie freaking manage night.

1676
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 2: Archie managed seventy one unbelievable.

1677
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, my, I think that streak's gonna get broken this year,

1678
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 5: at least the market thinks so again. Yesterday, I was

1679
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 5: on the air live when the news broke of Derek Carr,

1680
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 5: and immediately I grabbed my phone and sprinted. You know,

1681
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 5: got my fingers as loose as nimble as possible to

1682
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 5: get to the bedm jen have to figure out if

1683
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 5: there was a Saints to draft the quarterback in the

1684
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 5: first round prop available. There was, it was a very

1685
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 5: juicy price at plus two ten.

1686
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 2: I bet it. I put my phone down. We did

1687
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: a segment about the news. I picked my phone back.

1688
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 5: Up in commercial break and it was minus one twenty.

1689
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 5: Like that's how quickly these markets move off of news.

1690
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 5: I always say that the draft and the awards markets

1691
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 5: are the two markets. I think us as journalists have

1692
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 5: a bit of an edge in over you know, the

1693
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 5: average gambler, because it's all driven by information. The media

1694
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 5: votes on the awards were media the media has the

1695
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,560
Speaker 5: information on where these guys are going. They talk to

1696
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 5: the owners, talk to the scouts, talk to the GMS,

1697
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 5: talk to the players, and that's it's all an information

1698
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 5: based market. But go back to your original point on

1699
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 5: Derek Carr, I'm willing to say he's a mediocre quarterback.

1700
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 5: I'm I'm willing to go down that road. I think

1701
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 5: we've seen enough sample size for there not to be

1702
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 5: much meat left.

1703
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 2: On that bone.

1704
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 5: I think for New Orleans and the con here's the problem.

1705
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 5: The contract situation is a disaster. I think I saw

1706
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 5: his dead cap next year is seventy million. Seventy million

1707
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 5: of dead cap, so it's insane, and they just did

1708
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 5: a restructure. So then you've got to spin it forward

1709
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 5: to the only way that the Saints can actually get

1710
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 5: a quarterback worth anything and keep the contract salary cap

1711
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 5: intact is to get one on a rookie deal. You

1712
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 5: can't pay Kirk Cousins and Derek Carr. You can't pay

1713
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr.

1714
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: It's just not possible.

1715
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:49,839
Speaker 5: So that's another notch in the belt of New Orleans

1716
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 5: is completely hamstrung here. They have to take a quarterback

1717
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 5: in this draft. Maybe it's not the first round. Maybe

1718
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 5: they don't like Schador. Maybe they've got the eighth pick

1719
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 5: in the second round. Maybe that's when they take Jackson Dart,

1720
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 5: Jalen Mirro, whoever's left. But if there is a connection

1721
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 5: with Shador and Kellen Moore, which there is, there's that

1722
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 5: Cowboys connection, that Texas connection, I don't understand if Shauldore's

1723
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 5: there at nine and Derek Carr's on the shelf, like

1724
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 5: it may it's just like the the stars align, so

1725
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 5: the market thinks, So I think, so I think Shoudor's

1726
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 5: going nine to New Orleans.

1727
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny to me. Is the market that

1728
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: you're talking about here, Jared? So I did a fill

1729
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 2: in radio show for an Indianapolis station this week and

1730
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: I said, Hey, if somehow, some way, should dour Sanders falls,

1731
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: like we didn't have the Saints news, then right as

1732
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: so as possible, if the Giants don't take him and

1733
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: he falls, look at the Colts at fourteen. So the

1734
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 2: market for where should dor Sanders is drafted? The Dolphins

1735
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: are at forty to one. What do you think the

1736
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: chances are that the Dolphins with Tua to to they

1737
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 2: draft should do Sanders like slim to none. So they're

1738
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 2: forty one, the Colts are fifty to one. The Colts

1739
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 2: are longer shots to draft Shaduur. They're not gonna do it,

1740
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 2: but I think they should if they were faced with

1741
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: that decision, I wouldn't let Anthony Richardson be the guy

1742
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 2: that prevents you from going on and trying to find

1743
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: your quarterback of the now in the future. His numbers

1744
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: are neck and neck with Tim Tebow. That's not an

1745
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 2: exaggeration like NFL no there, it's literally almost a dead heat.

1746
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 2: If you look at their passing numbers, it's ridiculous. And

1747
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: so I like if the Colts, like I don't think

1748
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 2: there are many legitimate reasons not to take Shador, one

1749
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: of the only ones is I'm just not convinced he's

1750
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 2: gonna be a franchise quarterback. It's like, okay, maybe you're right,

1751
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 2: but other than that, where it's like, well, you know

1752
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 2: we've got Anthony Richardson, No, Well we signed Daniel Jones, Nope.

1753
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 2: Well you know the drama with the nope.

1754
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 3: No.

1755
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 2: There are so many illegitimate reasons for the Colts if

1756
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: Shador is there to pass on the guy I'm just

1757
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: thinking of we see these mock drafts and we get

1758
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: conditioned to thinking, well, it can't go any other way.

1759
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 2: It does all the time, you know what I mean,

1760
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: Like all the time, so all the time. Yeah, So

1761
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm looking for these off the wall landing spots, and

1762
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 2: that's where I think the Colts should do it if

1763
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 2: they were faced with that decision. They're probably not going

1764
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 2: to be faced with that decision, and even if they were,

1765
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 2: they wouldn't do it because they're gonna play it safe

1766
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: to a fault. But I think they should absolutely go

1767
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 2: for it if they had the option to.

1768
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 4: Look, this is, by all accounts a weak NFL draft

1769
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 4: class for quarterbacks. I mean, cam Ward is probably the

1770
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 4: highest rated quarterback at this point, and there are certain

1771
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 4: draft analysts who are wrong, I'm not going to deny that,

1772
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 4: who are wrong at times many times, who have cam

1773
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 4: Ward as being the highest eligible prospect and he's just

1774
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 4: cresting the top fifty, all right. I mean, so if

1775
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 4: you think about how much better you can make your

1776
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 4: football team and other aspects by just looking past the

1777
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 4: quarterback position for a second, especially when there's some great

1778
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 4: depth coming out of this draft on the defense, on

1779
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 4: the receiver side of things. There are a couple of

1780
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 4: offensive linemen available that team should take a look at.

1781
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 4: I'll rewind the clock back to twenty eleven. The Titans, Jaguars,

1782
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 4: and Vikings selected Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbard, and Christian Ponder

1783
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 4: with picks eight, ten and eleven. Okay, respect they passed

1784
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 4: up JJ Watt twelfth, Tyron Smith, Robert Quinn, Mike Pouncy,

1785
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 4: Ryan Kerrigan. I mean, there are going to be teams

1786
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 4: that pull the trigger on a quarterback because it feels

1787
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:50,680
Speaker 4: like that's what the fan base wants, or the ownership

1788
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 4: is getting frustrated and impatient, or the front office falls

1789
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 4: in love with the prospect and says, we've got the

1790
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 4: coaching to fix this guy or to make this guy

1791
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 4: great at the NFL level. And if you do that,

1792
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 4: you can miss some unbelievable opportunities to really improve your

1793
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 4: football team. And then, yeah, you may have to coast

1794
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 4: for a year or even struggle through a season where

1795
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 4: you're waiting for the puzzle piece to complete the team,

1796
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 4: the quarterback that you sign as a free agent or

1797
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 4: you trade for or you draft for in twenty twenty six.

1798
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 3: But if you have patience. Sometimes it pays off.

1799
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 4: The best teams in the NFL typically build their team

1800
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 4: from the inside out, the guys closest to the football,

1801
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 4: the offensive and defensive lineman, and then they add the

1802
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 4: ancillary pieces and then finish it off with a quarterback

1803
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 4: in the end. If you do it the right way,

1804
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 4: you can have long sustained success, like some of those franchises.

1805
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 4: I'm pointing to the San Francisco forty nine ers who

1806
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 4: had success for years even though they've always played bridesmaid

1807
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 4: to the Chiefs, the Detroit Lions, that's the way they've

1808
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 4: been built up. There's great examples around the league. When

1809
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 4: you look at it, the teams that typically try to throw,

1810
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 4: you know, the dynamite into the lake and kill the fish,

1811
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 4: you know, by drafting the flashy quarterback, like the Anthony

1812
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 4: Richardson's of the world, they don't solve their bigger problems

1813
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 4: and then they come back to haunt them.

1814
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1815
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 5: I mean, if you just look at the Saints roster,

1816
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 5: like the offensive line's got three first rounders up front.

1817
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 5: Fiaga's they took in the first round I think two

1818
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 5: years ago, oh no, last year out of Oregon State,

1819
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 5: and then you've got Penning, who they took in the

1820
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 5: first round that was in twenty two. And you've got

1821
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 5: Ramcheck who was the first round pick from a few

1822
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 5: years ago. And then you've also got a second round Yeah,

1823
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 5: and then you got a second rounder, Eric McCoy in

1824
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 5: the middle. Like, you've got a really good offensive line.

1825
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 5: Cesar Ruiz was their first round pick in twenty twenty.

1826
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 5: He's a right guard. So like you've got a pretty

1827
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 5: talented offensive line. You have a Kellen Moore offense, which

1828
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 5: I think is gonna be interesting. I'm not over the

1829
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 5: moon about him, but I mean it'll be interesting. And

1830
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 5: then you've got defense. How about the new defensive coordinator

1831
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 5: for the New Orleans Saints, our buddy Brandon Staley.

1832
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 2: How about that for a little curveball in there. So

1833
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 2: like you've got some interesting piece. Now it's gonna be

1834
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 2: the first year.

1835
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 5: From new OC, new DC, new head coach, and you've

1836
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 5: got Mickey Loomish has been the GM since pretty.

1837
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 2: Much the turn of the century.

1838
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 5: But now the most important position on your roster, Spencer Ratler,

1839
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 5: j Can or Ben Denucci is your quarterback room.

1840
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 2: I mean, something's got to give there. So you've got

1841
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 2: to make.

1842
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 5: Let's just assume and operate in a vacuum and say

1843
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 5: Derek Carr is done. It seems like surgery is the

1844
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 5: likely option here, and he will not be playing this year,

1845
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 5: maybe next year, but we'll see. Now you've got a

1846
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 5: big hole on your roster at QB one, well you're

1847
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 5: gonna have an opportunity to take one at nine.

1848
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: I do not think.

1849
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 5: Schador is gonna go before the ninth pick. But to

1850
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 5: be fair, we didn't think Michael Pics or Bonnicks We're

1851
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 5: going to be off the board by the thirteenth pick

1852
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 5: last year, and that's what happened. So the quarterbacks tend

1853
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 5: to go earlier than expected. That is why if Shador

1854
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 5: is there at nine, I don't see why New Orleans

1855
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 5: wouldn't make that deal, wouldn't make that pick.

1856
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 2: That's true.

1857
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think there's anything that's going to

1858
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,440
Speaker 5: change my opinion on that between now and two thursdays

1859
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 5: from now. And I think that's just it just makes

1860
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 5: too much sense, too much sense.

1861
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing is, look to Rich's point,

1862
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 2: the twenty eleven draft, you might be swinging for a

1863
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 2: quarterback that, who knows, maybe should do or doesn't pan out,

1864
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: it's possible, and you you miss on a non quarterback

1865
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 2: that turns out to be a stud. I get all that,

1866
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 2: but you gotta find a quarterback. I'm in favor of

1867
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:56,759
Speaker 2: taking swings to find your quarterback instead of not taking

1868
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 2: swings to find your quarterback. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1869
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 2: you gotta find your cube. If you don't have a QB,

1870
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 2: you're going nowhere. Okay, you might hit on a stud whatever,

1871
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 2: defensive end, quarterback, any position, non quarterback, and it can

1872
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 2: be a big difference maker if you have a quarterback

1873
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 2: on your roster. If you don't have a quarterback in

1874
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 2: your roster, you're going nowhere. So I am absolutely in

1875
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 2: favor of swinging. Look at the Patriots. Look at their roster.

1876
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 2: It sucked last year, and they went with Drake May

1877
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 2: number three overall, and he looks like he could be

1878
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 2: a player for quite some time for them, And all

1879
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,799
Speaker 2: of a sudden, one offseason, he got all this cash

1880
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 2: to spend, we got this free agent and that free agent,

1881
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: we got this guy. All of a sudden, the roster

1882
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 2: looks a whole lot better when it looks like you

1883
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 2: also have a quarterback. There are some good rosters and

1884
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 2: they don't have a QB, and it's like, what's the use, right, Like,

1885
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 2: so you got to take swings.

1886
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1887
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely in favor of if you can swing for

1888
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 2: a top prospect. Hey, there's a chance he doesn't pan out,

1889
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 2: but I guarantee you your team will not pan out

1890
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 2: if you don't have a quarterback. That's the way the

1891
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 2: game is these days.

1892
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, listen, I can be convinced of

1893
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 4: the opposite. Just because I'm casting a little shade on

1894
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 4: this year's draft class doesn't mean that two or all

1895
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 4: three of these, you know, the quarterback names that we've

1896
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 4: been hearing the most could end.

1897
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 3: Up being all pro. Yeah, they could end up being

1898
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 3: the guys who we.

1899
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 4: Say, Wow, what an underrated, historically underrated quarterback draft class.

1900
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 3: They are ushering in a new era in the NFL.

1901
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 4: Most likely not, And that's okay. If you want to

1902
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 4: roll the dice, if you think you've got the chops

1903
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 4: to develop the talent at the next level, then go

1904
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 4: ahead and do exactly what you said, Brian. But if

1905
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 4: there's any question, if you're an owner or a guy

1906
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 4: in the front office about whether or not your coaching

1907
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,839
Speaker 4: staff really has the chops to develop talent at that quarterback.

1908
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 4: Either you got to take a good hard look in

1909
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 4: the mirror and.

1910
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 3: Say, do we have the right coach?

1911
01:37:57,640 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 4: And then also you got to take a good hard

1912
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 4: look in your mirror and are we ready right now

1913
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 4: for that type of project or should we continue to

1914
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 4: build and then insert you know, name the quarterback a

1915
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 4: year from now who can really take us over the top.

1916
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 4: There are a lot of different ways to peel this onion.

1917
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 4: We've outlined two of them. There are millions of different

1918
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 4: ways to turn over this problem and solve it. So

1919
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 4: I'm very curious to see who does reach if there

1920
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Speaker 4: are going to be draft day trades, if we all

1921
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 4: of a sudden see a team kind of out of nowhere,

1922
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 4: belly up to the bar and say, you know what,

1923
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 4: we like this guy enough that we are going to,

1924
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 4: you know, forego some of our future to take the

1925
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 4: gamble right now. I can't wait, because sometimes when you

1926
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 4: have lower expectations for a draft, that's when the kind

1927
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 4: of the craziness ensues.

1928
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Speaker 3: So we may be in for some surprises later this month.

1929
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the key, And there's a lot

1930
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 5: of maybe people out there that want to bet on

1931
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,120
Speaker 5: the draft and they want to try to make some money.

1932
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Speaker 5: My advice to you is, don't bet on what you

1933
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 5: think is going to happen. Bet on or I'll rephrase that,

1934
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 5: don't bet on what you would do if you were

1935
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 5: in that spot. Bet On what the general managers have

1936
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 5: a history of doing. Bet On where the fit is,

1937
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 5: where the need is. Because there's a lot of people

1938
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 5: with bet drafts like, oh, I really want my team

1939
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 5: to take this guy. I'm gonna bet on that. Well,

1940
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 5: are you the GM?

1941
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Speaker 3: Like?

1942
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 5: No, Like, you're not handicapping your perspective of the situation.

1943
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 2: You're handicapping.

1944
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 5: You're trying to kick your brain, suck it out of

1945
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 5: your head and PLoP it into the GM of that team.

1946
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:39,679
Speaker 5: What would that team do? What does that team need?

1947
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 5: And the quarterback position is no matter what you think

1948
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 5: of defensive lineman A or running back B, the quarterback

1949
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:51,440
Speaker 5: position has to carry significant.

1950
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 2: Weight in your decision making process.

1951
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 5: You should be making a list of teams and I

1952
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 5: already have it. I've already started my mock draft list.

1953
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 5: I have highlights on the teams that need a quarterback.

1954
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 5: New Orleans went from green to like red immediately, like

1955
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 5: it was green. Derek Carr, Now it's red. Nothing like

1956
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 5: Now that's like red flag quarterback.

1957
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: Same thing with Denver last year.

1958
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Speaker 5: Right, nobody thought. Everyone thought bon Nicks in the first

1959
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,600
Speaker 5: round was a reach. I think his draft position was

1960
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 5: thirty two. There's thirty two teams in the league. I

1961
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 5: think the over was the juicy part of that. But

1962
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 5: Denver needed a quarterback and they like bon Nicks, so

1963
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:33,719
Speaker 5: they took bon Nicks.

1964
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Speaker 2: Like that's where you have to remove.

1965
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Speaker 5: Your bias from the process. New Orleans needs a quarterback desperately.

1966
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 5: I just told you the three names that are healthy

1967
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,759
Speaker 5: on their roster sounds like a law firm.

1968
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Speaker 2: It's not something It's not something I'd want to put

1969
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 2: in my quarterback room.

1970
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Speaker 5: So I just I don't really know where else they go,

1971
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 5: like unless they really like someone else in free agency,

1972
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 5: but the car contract is going to prevent them from

1973
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 5: signing someone significant like a Cousins or a Rodgers.

1974
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 2: Their their only option is to draft a quarterback on

1975
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Speaker 2: a rookie deal.

1976
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 5: That is the only way you get a warm body

1977
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 5: at the price you need to play the most important position.

1978
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 5: Like they're handcuffed, like they have to take a quarterback.

1979
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 5: Maybe not in the first round, but they have to

1980
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 5: draft a quarterback.

1981
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1990
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Speaker 2: All right, coming up next. There isn't one report or

1991
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1997
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1998
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Speaker 2: That's at eight pm Eastern time throughout the first round

1999
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 2: of the draft. Insider Jay Glazer, former Jets GM Joe Douglas,

2000
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,799
Speaker 2: college Football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington, and Fox Sports

2001
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 2: lead college football reporter Jenny Taft will have pick by

2002
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:38,959
Speaker 2: pick predictions and reactions to every first round pick. That's Thursday,

2003
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Speaker 2: April twenty fourth, at eight pm Eastern throughout the first

2004
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Speaker 2: round of the draft, live right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2005
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Speaker 2: It's brought to you by Ship Station. Okay, so we

2006
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 2: got one game left for every NBA team before the

2007
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 2: playoffs start, and the Nuggets will have a head coach

2008
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 2: that has three games of head coaching experience when the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah,

2009
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: the Nuggets fired Michael Malone and it has just been,

2010
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,640
Speaker 2: for me a comedy show ever since then. You know

2011
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 2: how it's gonna go. They're gonna be reports. The latest

2012
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 2: report is the players were miserable. Actually, actually the headline

2013
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 2: was the players were freaking miserable. It sounds like me

2014
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:30,640
Speaker 2: writing headlines. Oh the poor babies, they were freaking miserable

2015
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 2: over there. Of course, you fire a guy with three

2016
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 2: games left in the regular season, what are they doing here?

2017
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me, any opinion, any report

2018
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 2: where oh there was friction between the head coach and

2019
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 2: GM okay, Oh they lost four games in a row,

2020
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 2: all right, the players were freaking miserable. So like, are

2021
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 2: they better off without Michael Malone heading into the playoffs?

2022
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, So I don't get why they did it.

2023
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 2: If you're gonna move on from him, move on from

2024
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 2: him in the offseason. But I do not see Denver's

2025
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 2: chances being better to get to the finals, to win

2026
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 2: a championship. Their chances are not better without a head

2027
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 2: coach that actually has experienced.

2028
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Speaker 3: So I would agree with.

2029
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 4: You except for the fact that it's basketball, and it's

2030
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 4: not just basketball, because in college hoops, you need a

2031
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 4: good coach, you need a good leader at the front

2032
01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 4: of the class. In the NBA, it is such a

2033
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 4: different animal than it is in other sports college football,

2034
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 4: college hoops, pro football. I mean, in the lexicon of

2035
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 4: level of importance, NBA coach is kind of right up

2036
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 4: there next to like a horse and buggy whip, Like

2037
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 4: they're kind of antiquated, they're vestigial, they're no longer needed.

2038
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 3: I really, honestly don't think that.

2039
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 4: An NBA coach is more than and just a director

2040
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,799
Speaker 4: of personalities. In fact, they could probably rename the position

2041
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 4: and pay these guys less. The best ones they are

2042
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 4: value adds, you know, And we can go through the

2043
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 4: names of the best NBA coaches, you know who they are.

2044
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 4: The worst ones, Well, they're toxic to a culture and

2045
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 4: they need to be removed, like digging out a warp

2046
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 4: from your palm or something like that, because they can

2047
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 4: be a nuisance, they can get in the way of

2048
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 4: problem solving, and they can add more turmoil to a

2049
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,839
Speaker 4: situation where you got a bunch of young alpha males

2050
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 4: who are trying to get along for long enough to

2051
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 4: win a championship or at very least do something special.

2052
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 4: So I don't think it's all that bad of a

2053
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:51,600
Speaker 4: move in the NBA to just move on from a

2054
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 4: coach that isn't working, because I don't necessarily think it

2055
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 4: matters all that much in terms of how you progress

2056
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 4: during your regular season or your postseason. I just don't

2057
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 4: think NBA coaches do very much. And and I think

2058
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people who would agree with that.

2059
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the the NFL stands for? Not for long?

2060
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 2: What does the NBA stand for no boomers allowed. How

2061
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 2: old is Michael Malone. I don't know if he's a

2062
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 2: boomer or not.

2063
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 5: I apologize to to Michael Malone if he's not a boomer,

2064
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 5: but I mean, I'm just trying to think of like,

2065
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 5: like I remember when this story dropped.

2066
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait a minute, the dude just won the

2067
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 2: title two years ago.

2068
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 5: They're a top four seed in the West, Like like what,

2069
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 5: like what's the problem here?

2070
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 2: And it just it goes back to Riches's point. I agree.

2071
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 5: The head coach in the NBA is like the is

2072
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 5: like the Queen of England figure you know, figurehead. I

2073
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 5: don't really have that much power, Like you know, the

2074
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 5: monarchy is is just kind of you know, the crown

2075
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 5: and then the Parliament makes all the rules. Like in

2076
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 5: this case, I think the parliament is the players.

2077
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I don't know.

2078
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 5: If this is like a I'm not as big of

2079
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 5: an NBA guy as definitely Brian Rich. I don't want to,

2080
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 5: you know, take away from your NBA chops, but I'm

2081
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 5: not like as invested in the NBA on a night

2082
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 5: to night basis as a lot of other people who

2083
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 5: do really good work for this network and other networks.

2084
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna, you know, go over my skis

2085
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 5: here talking about the NBA and breaking it down from

2086
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:22,560
Speaker 5: a you know, an analytical standpoint, but it's it's a

2087
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 5: player's lead.

2088
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:24,679
Speaker 2: The players have all the power.

2089
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 5: So this story might be the tip of the iceberg

2090
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 5: for more stories like it to continue to pop up,

2091
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 5: where really successful coaches lose the locker room and that's it.

2092
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 5: They're gone, it's over, it's done. They like they can't

2093
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 5: get it back. I don't know if Denver's gonna make

2094
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 5: it through the West. I don't think they're going to.

2095
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 5: I think they're The West is a really tough conferences

2096
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 5: here on like the East, which is like Boston and

2097
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:50,839
Speaker 5: nobody else. But this will be a lesson. Like imagine

2098
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 5: if if Denver gets bounced in the first round of

2099
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 5: the playoffs with a guy that's averaging a triple double,

2100
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe the coach is worth a little bit

2101
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 5: more than we then we're putting it in for. But

2102
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 5: this is just like, it was such a weird story

2103
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,520
Speaker 5: and the timing of it was just bizarre.

2104
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see how it plays out.

2105
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 5: But I'm definitely with you, Rich I don't think the

2106
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 5: head coach in the NBA really really matters a ton,

2107
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 5: But I think it matters a little bit, a little

2108
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 5: bit more than the credit that Michael Malone probably got

2109
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 5: in this situation.

2110
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the opposite side of you guys, Like

2111
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm not saying a head coach in the NBA means everything,

2112
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 2: but you guys are making it sound like they're a

2113
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 2: dime a dozen. Is there any real difference between coach

2114
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 2: A and coach B? And yeah there is, Like look

2115
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 2: at the Lakers, good example, if you like before they

2116
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 2: got Luca, If you didn't see a difference between JJ

2117
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 2: Reddick and Darvin Ham, I don't know what to tell you.

2118
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 2: I have no words for you, you know what I mean, Like,

2119
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 2: look at the Calves. The Calves have one of the

2120
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 2: best records in the league. Look at what Kenny Atkinson

2121
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 2: has done with that being the best offense in the NBA.

2122
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 2: Did they have some blockbuster trade and all of a

2123
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:04,879
Speaker 2: sudden they got all their stars, Like they got Evan Mobley,

2124
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 2: they got you know, Tereus Garland, they got Donovan Mitchell

2125
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 2: in the offseason, Like, no, those guys were there the

2126
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 2: previous year, Right, So coaching matters. I don't want to

2127
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 2: make it sound like it's the most important thing ever,

2128
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 2: but it matters a whole lot more than you guys

2129
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: are making it out to be.

2130
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:22,679
Speaker 3: That's fair, I think.

2131
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 4: I think Okay, from from a standpoint of in game adjustments,

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Speaker 4: there are times where a coach can absolutely save the

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01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 4: day and come up with the inbounding play or you know,

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01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 4: the half court offensive set or defensive scheme that is

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01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 4: going to solve the problems that a team face in

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01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 4: the first half.

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01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 3: Hey, you know we're switching at the point of attack.

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01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:47,720
Speaker 3: Let's get rid of that.

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01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 4: You know we're gonna stay man to man, We're gonna

2140
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 4: fight over screens, you know, whatever it may be. So

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01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 4: there has to be somebody with a thirty thousand foot view,

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01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 4: and the best coaches can do that can kind of

2143
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 4: have an eagle eye view of what's happening court. Do

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01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:06,639
Speaker 4: I think that is happening as much as these guys

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01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 4: are massaging relationships making sure that all these guys are

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01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 4: happy or playing well in the sandbox. Not to dumb

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01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 4: it down to a level that's you know, far more

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01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 4: immature than it actually is, but to a certain extent,

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01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 4: I think that's the bigger part of the job. Emotional

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01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 4: intelligence is more important than basketball since and I think

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01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,679
Speaker 4: the best coaches know that. Now, don't get me wrong,

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01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 4: you need to have respect.

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01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:32,600
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 3: The reason why JJ Reddick even has a job.

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01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 4: Is because there's not a single person either in this room,

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01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 4: the three of us talking, or anybody out there who

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01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 4: doubts his basketball acumen. You know, he is paired up

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01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 4: with one of, if not the greatest players ever worn

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01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 4: a jersey in the NBA, and ultimately, Lebron respects his

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01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 4: head coach. He hand picked him, you know. But if

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01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 4: JJ Raddick or any coach proves to be a bad

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01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 4: orchestrator of personality, they're gone. They're gone.

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01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 3: They're gone, because that is the most important part of

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01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 3: the job.

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01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 4: Whereas in the NFL, look, Belichick wasn't a particularly likable guy.

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01:51:11,040 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 4: I don't think I would have necessarily chosen him to

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01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 4: be my partner in the three legged race at the

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01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:22,640
Speaker 4: family picnic. But is he an incredibly intelligent football mind. Yeah,

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01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 4: And even though he you know, ruffled some feathers along

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01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 4: the way, was he a winning coach?

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01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 4: Because in that game, coaching really matters in the NBA

2173
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 4: game superstars really matter, and having happy superstars, you know,

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01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 4: the happiest.

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01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 3: Cows make the best milk. Same thing in that NBA.

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01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 3: That's how it works. Get you have to have a

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01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:44,839
Speaker 3: good farmer.

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01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 4: And and I guess Mike Malone was intending to the

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01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 4: pasture well enough.

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01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:51,879
Speaker 5: No, I won't make any cow jokes with the utters

2181
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 5: in the milk up.

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01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 2: Save that for your imagination.

2183
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 3: Be utterly reduced.

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01:51:58,120 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 2: We are.

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01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,919
Speaker 5: We got bad jokes for days today. I am alieving,

2186
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 5: utterly ridiculous. No boomers allowed.

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01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Brian, I hear you.

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01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 5: I do think there's a lot of I think there's

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01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 5: a lot of value that a good head coach can bring.

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01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 5: I think there's a certain level of respect that a

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01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 5: good head coach needs to command. And that seems like

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01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 5: the vibe of this story. It seems like Malone wanted

2193
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 5: to play a lot of defense and the Nuggets were like, hmmm,

2194
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 5: you know, I'd rather just shoot it and do.

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01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 2: All this other fun stuff.

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01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 5: And then there was a clash of culture, and I

2197
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 5: guess that clash of culture in the locker room led

2198
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 5: to this departure. So we'll see how the Nuggets fair

2199
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 5: in the playoffs. It'll be let's leave it at this.

2200
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 5: It'll be a good case study for if a team

2201
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 5: can fire their head coach three days before the playoffs

2202
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 5: start and actually make some noise, because if they get

2203
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:52,799
Speaker 5: bounced in the first.

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01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 2: Round, I think regret will be the first word that

2205
01:52:55,640 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 2: comes to mind. Yeah, it was funny because both that

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01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 2: fired their head coaches late in the season played each

2207
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 2: other last night. Yeah, the Grizzlies against the Nuggets, and

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01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, my firing ball weird. But I just look, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand, like the Nuggets are still fourth in

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01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 2: the West. I know they're fourth in the two years ago. Yes,

2211
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:24,240
Speaker 2: let me the only title in franchise history. And it

2212
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 2: was that bad. It was that bad. That makes sense.

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01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question though, like if you're

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01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 4: in a bad relationship right, uh, And I don't want

2215
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 4: to make this dark, but like an abusive relationship or

2216
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 4: somebody who you just don't jibe with, or you know

2217
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 4: there's a situation where you know something happened along the

2218
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 4: way that is unforgivable, whatever it may be, are you

2219
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:53,520
Speaker 4: just gonna stick it out to make it to Christmas

2220
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,640
Speaker 4: even though it's two months away. I mean or are

2221
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 4: you gonna say to yourself, no, man, like I gotta

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01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 4: I gotta pull myself up, and I gotta I gotta

2223
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 4: get out of here, and I gotta make the right

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01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 4: choice for me right now.

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01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 4: Again, that's on a personal level, and we're talking about

2227
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 4: an organization. We're talking about a billion dollar organization when

2228
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 4: you're talking about NBA teams. But if you you distill

2229
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 4: it to its simplest form, If from a relationship standpoint,

2230
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 4: something isn't working out with a head coach, why wait,

2231
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 4: just yank that band aid off and see if it

2232
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 4: doesn't get better on the other side.

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01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not down with it. Like it's like again,

2234
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 2: they want a title less than two years ago. You know,

2235
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 2: we'll call it two years ago. They want to tie.

2236
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 2: They're probably gonna be a fifty win team this year.

2237
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 2: They're fourth in the West. Like again, the reports the

2238
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 2: players were freaking miserable. Okay, so what, get over it.

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01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 3: How much money do they make?

2240
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 2: You could pay me that and I'd be willing to

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01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 2: be miserable, right right. Oh, some players were upset that

2242
01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: he favored Russell Westbrook. Again, get over it. He doesn't

2243
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 2: get along with the GM Okay, fire him in the

2244
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 2: off season.

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01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 5: You're not that bet an interesting backstory. There might be

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01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 5: something going on between him and I heard there was

2247
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,840
Speaker 5: a lot of belly aching and drama behind the scenes.

2248
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 2: That could have been it. But they fired both of them, right,

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01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 2: they fired the GM and the head coach. Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: that's okay, all right, Okay again, I haven't heard an

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Speaker 3: Let's do it rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jared, we start with you. What do you like?

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01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 5: Well? I gave this out during prop it up. I'll

2290
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 5: give it out again because it's probably one of my

2291
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 5: favorite plays of the day. Rory to shoot seventy or

2292
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 5: better at Augusta in round three, essentially under seventy and

2293
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 5: a half for his round score. He's been fantastic, Tita

2294
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 5: Green around the greens, and.

2295
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 2: The short stick has let him down.

2296
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 5: He's really had two bad holes through his first thirty six,

2297
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 5: and I think he will shoot seventy or better today

2298
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 5: in round three. All Right, yourpie nerfy time. We all

2299
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 5: know we love the baseball vibes. We're back in the

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01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 5: first inning mode. Nationals, Marlins Nurfy, Trevor Williams, Sandy ALCNTRA.

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01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 5: Both offenses below average in the first inning, and I

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01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 5: think that pitching matchup screams no run in the first inning.

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01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 5: Let's give you a yes, run in the first inning.

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01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:09,839
Speaker 5: Cubs Dodgers your feet. Cubs one of the best offenses

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01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 5: in MLB. They had a bagel last night thanks to

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01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 5: Yamamoto and that great Dodgers pitching staff Ben Brown Rokie Sasaki. Today,

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01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 5: much more hitter friendly matchup on the pitcher's side for

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01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 5: the Cubs and Dodgers will go your feet in La Okay.

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01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 4: I got Padres on the spread minus one and a

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01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 4: half facing the Rockies. They've struggled this season. Padres bats

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01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 4: are on fire right now. However, I'm also gonna take

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01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:38,000
Speaker 4: the over on the eight and a half runs in

2313
01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 4: this game. Padres Rockies today at Peco Park. It can

2314
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 4: be a hitter friendly ballpark. Padres again offensive power. Rockies

2315
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 4: are facing a pitcher named Kyle Hart on the mound

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01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 4: for San Diego today, who he's struggled. He struggled this season.

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01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 4: They've got some good bats in their lineup, so I'm

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01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 4: expecting a high run game there. Dodgers minus one and

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01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 4: a half as well on the spread, facing the club's

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01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 4: strong home field advantage. Not a high opinion of the

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01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 4: Cubs this year. Give me the Dodgers, So Padres minus

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01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 4: one and a half Dodgers minus one and.

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01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 3: A half and Padres Rockies over the ain' and a

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01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 3: half run line.

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01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 2: Man, I had the top Scandinavian market circled, but it's

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01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 3: I think they underway. O.

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01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 2: Man, that's rough right there. That's okay, just my first

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01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,240
Speaker 2: bad beat of the day for being out right there.

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01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 2: Give me give me a birdie on a par three.

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01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 2: I'm going for uh the Shambo. I'm also going for

2332
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffler. Wow, they've been birdying consistently on par three holes.

2333
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 2: I think we get at least one of one Verdi

2334
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 2: from each of them today, and then I'll also I'll

2335
01:59:57,080 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 2: double dip. The putting has been a lot better. Bryson

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02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 2: de Shambo to shoot seventy or better, so he's gotta

2337
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 2: be two hunder par today. That's at plus money, that's

2338
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 2: at plus one ten. I like what I'm seeing out

2339
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 2: of the guy. He's been in the sixties. The putter

2340
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 2: is working wor seventy or better today. I'll double dip

2341
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:20,080
Speaker 2: with the Shambo. I enjoy the golf, the hoops, the ball,

2342
02:00:20,120 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 2: all the good stuff.