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Speaker 1: Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Games with Names. On today's episode, we are talking game

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Speaker 1: one of the nineteen ninety two NBA Finals between the

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Speaker 1: We talked Michael Jordan, we talked the Bulls dynasty, we

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Speaker 1: I think Gronky's more what can you do? What can

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Speaker 1: There's some good Burger. I mean, he's ed from good Burger.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Goodberger.

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Speaker 1: Home with a good burger.

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Speaker 2: People naming burgers after me now, and it's been it's

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Speaker 2: It's really good. Yeah, shout out. The Army's right now,

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Speaker 1: It's not bad, too heavy handed, little saucy, little little sauce, sauce,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Lee was insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bruce Lee Roy from Last Dragon. Come on,

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Speaker 1: You know, I used to love low key loved the

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Speaker 1: They always have like you had to do the plays.

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Speaker 2: It is bro Yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: My teacher would get so bad, but it make the

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Speaker 1: this time, Johnny Carson's final appearance as host of the

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Speaker 1: Tonight Show May twenty second. That was my birthday, Johnny Carson, Man,

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Speaker 1: I remember Jay Leno. Yeah, you know that. That was

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Speaker 3: Johnny wrapped it up with Bette Midler and Robin Williams.

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Speaker 2: Go out, Robin Williams.

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Speaker 2: it inspired me a lot, man.

437
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: Robin Williams. Man. I saw something on social recently where

438
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: he was doing a commercial and he was young in

439
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 1: his thing and that he was he was getting into

440
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: these crazy alter egos, and it took them and his

441
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 1: line was like literally one sentence, and it took him

442
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: forty five minutes to get the one sentence because he

443
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 1: kept on going into these crazy different characters. Yeah, and

444
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: fucking with the people and like he was just in

445
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: his like element. Yeah man, And it was just so

446
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: funny because he'd have conversations and like with himself and

447
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: with different characters and yeah, so talented making it.

448
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just a beast man weaponry of just

449
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: like amazing comedy, you.

450
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: Know, misdoubtfire Jack, one.

451
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: Time man rama in comedy.

452
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: It's sad, It's sad, Rip the Legend for real. Also,

453
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: Alien came out, Alien Guy.

454
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: You watched The Loved Aliens? Man, I love Aliens so much.

455
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: I had on a VHS with Ghostbusters, Last Dragon and

456
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: Purple Rain. They were all on the VHS.

457
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: Don't record over that VHS, do you know the v

458
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: remember the Ninja Turtle VHS And then like they'd have

459
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: the Burger King ad before.

460
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: Right before they had to get you.

461
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the kid with like the cartoon kid who come in.

462
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: Eat this burger while watching the movie. Yeah, man, it

463
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: was a great time, especially for movies. Too, like music movies.

464
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: Lethal Weapon, three Rigs. Yeah, man, that was like me

465
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: and Slater, Matthew Slater Man Batman Returns. Is that the

466
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: one with the penguin. That's a penguin one?

467
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: That was that was that was the veto.

468
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: I believe that's number two.

469
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

470
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: I I loved those Batman. Yeah, man, they were like

471
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: looking back there, like kind of bad after the first one.

472
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was Keating.

473
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: That was Michael Keaton's Keating.

474
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: The first one was the best one of me like that,

475
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: you know, and you know that at that time. Prince soundtrack, Prince,

476
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: come on, I'm big Prince fan.

477
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 3: Man.

478
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: That was that was crazy.

479
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: That was such a crazy like you. That was a

480
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: great movie since your act. I love Whoopee shout out

481
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: to Whoopee. Whoopee. Was this was her time? Yeah, this

482
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: Ghost was a little before. This was Ghost in ninety

483
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: eighty nine. I love that movie.

484
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, color purple right right around. Yes, man, Whoopee, Whoopy's

485
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: amazing too. Meeting her too, and just you know, that's

486
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: the thing. You got a Whoopie story, that's the thing.

487
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: Ninety two Oh yeah, oh yeah to whoo okay because

488
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: she was just amazing. So basically, I think it was

489
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 2: the first time we met Whoopee was big help remember

490
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: the Big Helpathon and all this stuff because we had

491
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 2: Big Helpathon, We had the Kids' Choice Awards and all

492
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: these things that were popping off in.

493
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: For you young people. You know, there wasn't this thing

494
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: called what was what's the little app? Everyone? Were you

495
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: gofund me? There was no go funding used to call

496
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: into a landline, yeah, and all these celebrities would just

497
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: be on there and they'd say how much money do

498
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: you want to get? And that's what it was, bro

499
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: and there'd be like a performance, a stand up BacT.

500
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: So all you young young kids, okay, there was no venmos,

501
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: there was none of that, and there was call me callings,

502
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: call lines for good stuff.

503
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: So sorry, no no worries, man, No worries. Like it

504
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: was it was just so awesome to meet all these people.

505
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: And that's what I was saying, Like when we met

506
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: Whoopie was like, yo, I just watched Sister Act. I

507
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: just watched and then around that time, I think it

508
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: was like it was ninety four, so it was like

509
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: Sister Act too came out, you know what I mean.

510
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: That's the one I love. Like sister act too, Lauryn Hill,

511
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: you know Fuji's you know, I always said I was

512
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: a big b boy, so I was break dancing all

513
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: that stuff. So to like meet like, you know, Lauren

514
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: Hill and all these acts, because that was the thing.

515
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: Like with all that, we had every musical act like

516
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: you know, and then also in our audience alone, we

517
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: had a lot of comedians that we looked up to

518
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 2: that would come and bring their kids and stuff like that,

519
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: so our audiences will be crazy too.

520
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite person you got to meet in that

521
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: time span? Man?

522
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: Everybody? Man, you're talking about l l Aliyah TLC hed

523
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: the theme song, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

524
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: left I was there, man. This is the TLC where

525
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: they were at the beginning of it all. And you know,

526
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: it's still to be cool with everyone at this point.

527
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: Like Usher when he was first getting started. I remember

528
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: Usher had on some timberlands in a Jersey and we

529
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: had that you know, garage stage and we had like

530
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: a fire escape, you know, set thing that we made,

531
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: and he just was like, no other entertainer had done this,

532
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: that guest starred on the show. But he's like I

533
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: want to start at the fire escape, and he slid

534
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: down the fire escape, did a spin and a split

535
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: and then started singing. And I was like, oh, yeah,

536
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: that he's about to kill it. He's gonna kill Look

537
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: at a Thoun super Bowl every day like Usher is amazing.

538
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, people people sleep on on his dancing. Oh that's

539
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: just amazing, Like people, because you know, this new general

540
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: Chris Brown became kind of like the Usher of the

541
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: next man, you know, who could sing and dance. The

542
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Usher used to those music videos were crazy.

543
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: He still got it.

544
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: You still got it being rained, you got it bad

545
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: doing spins and it looked for like twenty five minutes

546
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting here like that's not physically possible. What

547
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: surface is he on? What surface is he on?

548
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: These skills that's we're talking about them skills now?

549
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: Cartoon Network airs this year, Now, was there any beef?

550
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: Was there like a beef between Nickelodeon Cartoon Network.

551
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: Around that time? It was always beef, you know what

552
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: I mean. As far as like with the networks, it

553
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: was like, you know, the Disney and Nickelodeon was like

554
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: the blessed crips at that point, you know what I mean,

555
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: it was.

556
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Cartoon Cartoon Network.

557
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: I feel like they was mutual because there was the

558
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: weird kids that came out of nowhere, you know what

559
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: I mean with these wild cartoons. Man, But but me

560
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: being a cartoon kind of so I loved everything, you

561
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I watched all the Cartoon Network stuff.

562
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: Of course, the Nickelodeon stuff.

563
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: Favorite Nickelodeon. What was your favorite Nickelodeon.

564
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: At that time, if you're talking about that time, definitely

565
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: Running Stimpy, you know what I mean. I think it's

566
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: a little too wild.

567
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Now. Wait, I got sure I was gonna wear a

568
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: shirt on this for that. I loved Drunning Sippy, but

569
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: I watched it. I'm like, there's no way I could

570
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: let my kid watch the ship.

571
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: Oh Mann Snippy was amazing, Man it was. It was hilarious.

572
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: I love Doug Doug was dope.

573
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: I love Doug Hey Arnold. That was my era. Man

574
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: Hey Arnold was fired. I wanted to like live in

575
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: New York after that, like I thought I was just then.

576
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: I remember going to New York for the first time.

577
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: I was looking for like an alleyway to play stickball

578
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: because of I was like, where is it football? Head?

579
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Do y'all remember the cartoons though around this time, because

580
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: I tell people that like rappers back then had cartoons.

581
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 2: Who so like, okay, so in c Hamma I had

582
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: a cartoon.

583
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: I do remember that. Look it up.

584
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: He had a cartoon. His shoes would come alive and

585
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: he jump inside his shoes and then he would switch

586
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: into Hammerman and say, I do remember that. Save everybody

587
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: if you kiddn play had a cartoon because they had

588
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: a successful house party and all that stuff like that.

589
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 2: And now that was even before house party when they

590
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: had the cartoon, they were they had the cartoon man.

591
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: So it was crazy, man.

592
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: We got to bring that back today. We need like

593
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: a young thug cartoon or like, oh we need to

594
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: something you know, I don't know who you.

595
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, like a boat or something.

596
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: Bro that would rock. Bring that back, Networks execs, I'm

597
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: looking at you.

598
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: Let's go, Let's go. And then lastly, yeah.

599
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 1: The Chronic came out this year, Doctor Dre that's one

600
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: of my favorite story West Coast.

601
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: Kids album This is Your Rocks this year.

602
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: Dude, I love the Chronic album. My memory of that

603
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: is having the tape, the Chronic tape with him on

604
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: it and then playing Sonic the Hedgehog and listening to

605
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 2: the Chronic album for the first time while playing Sony.

606
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: Can't get any better than that.

607
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: You can't get any better than that.

608
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Man.

609
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: I remember being in the basement playing Sonic Blast the Chronic.

610
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: You were a Saga kid over at Nintendo nin Super

611
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: I had, I had too and all of that. I

612
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: had a Sega too, but there was there were Super

613
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Nintendo kids. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know what I mean,

614
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: which I did envy. I loved the I wanted the Mario.

615
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you never got because there was only so

616
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: much you could do with with with Sonic and Tails. Yeah. Man, yeah,

617
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: you know and when Mario, when the Super Mario and

618
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: the that was just different world.

619
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: Different world. Man. I loved it.

620
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: I love And they started getting the Sega CD. Remember

621
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: that whole thing. I remember. I went down, Man, I

622
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: doubt I want my friend. I had a Sega CD.

623
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: And then Dreamcast came out and Dreamcast was bawling LEO

624
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Speaker 1: g O.

625
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: It was crazy ones. Yeah right yeah.

626
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: Oh man, So in high school you pick up your

627
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: interests in theater.

628
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, this was this was ninety two.

629
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying theater in general, in generally okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

630
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: And when was the time you had the I made

631
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: it moment?

632
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: You know what. Well, I'll say the because I don't

633
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: I don't like to say I made it. I like

634
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: to say levels. So it's like, because you go a

635
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: different levels of life. So this was a this was

636
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: part of one of the levels of the journey. And

637
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: I remember when, uh, I want to say my South

638
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: Mayor year of high school. It was the all that

639
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: came along because at this point I'm doing theater and

640
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: like downtown Chicago, so I'm going Victory Gardens Theater, Goodman Theater.

641
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: I modeled for Captain Crunch. I was on the back

642
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: of the crunch Berry box. So it's like, so I

643
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: had like a high top. Yeah, I had a high

644
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: top fade. Uh. It's also it's in Wayne's history today.

645
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: She might have did that, but it's in the Uh

646
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: it's in the Waynsboro movie too. Yeah, it's a cereal

647
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: box in the there and then you see it. I

648
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: think it was the joke when they were doing a

649
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: joke on the doors or something like that. It's a

650
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: part in it. But yeah, you'll see the question. But yeah, man,

651
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: that was happening. And then I remember I got an agent,

652
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: so I'm going on mad mad auditions and stuff like that.

653
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: And usually around that time you would get infomercials and

654
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: commercials and Crunchbury box stuff, modeling stuff. But then all

655
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: that came along, which was like, you know, a nationwide search,

656
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: you know, because now you could do your zoom auditions,

657
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 2: you could do whatever, you know what I mean, And

658
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: it makes it easier for cast directors. But back then

659
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: they had to scout. They had to fly to them

660
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: cities to find those kids. And they found me in Chicago, man,

661
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: And I remember auditioning. I had finals on the brain

662
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: because I had finals that week, you know what I mean.

663
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: But I went in there and I went in the room.

664
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: And what was dope about going in the room is

665
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: that they said, impersonate, do some impersonations. Most kids would

666
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: do impersonations of like people they see on TV. Right, Nah, man,

667
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: I did like people I seen on the l you

668
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean, my uncles, you know, my aunties.

669
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: My coach was very, very mean and like all these people,

670
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: voices that I did in the room turned into the

671
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: characters that everybody knows today, like you know, it's creepy,

672
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You know that was my coach.

673
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: He was mean.

674
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: It would be Valentine's kids come in like, oh it's love.

675
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: He's like, don't boy camp, I no love. You know

676
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: that type of thing, you know. And then Ed was

677
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: in there because I love Bill and Ted's excellent adventure,

678
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: you know, and I love like all those different movies,

679
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: say by the Bell that's so you.

680
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: Know, he's Bill and Ted meets South Side of Chicago

681
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: exactly exactly.

682
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: So I would do that. Me and my cousins would

683
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: just talk like that. Yeah I did what d Yeah, yeah,

684
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

685
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: Common.

686
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: You heard the new Common album? Yeah, twisted, yeah, totally tubular.

687
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

688
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: And so we did all that stuff man and and

689
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: did that in the room and they loved it. And

690
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: you know that create that was Ed the voice of Ed. Yeah,

691
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, Man had that audition. I remember

692
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: when I auditioned, it was like, I want to say,

693
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: three weeks went by. So it's like, you know, if

694
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: you audition for something three weeks, you probably can't get it.

695
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: But I remember I got a call late that night,

696
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: you know, the old school phone, you know, it's still

697
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: connected to the wall. Mom's just like hello. And then

698
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: it was like, what what's going on? And we went

699
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: to La and it was the Avengers.

700
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Bro.

701
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: It was like going up against every funny kid from

702
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: every city, you know what I mean. And I remember

703
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: its lines. We're out here in LA battling it out,

704
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: and I was able to battle it out and get through,

705
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean as far as with the

706
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: sketches of the comedy. And then from there we started

707
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: the show in Florida, Orlando, Florida.

708
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: They put you, guys, it's like some combine stuff like

709
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: NFL combine all right, name play, give me a joke?

710
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: Where are you from?

711
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: It makes you a beach bo makes you a beast man.

712
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: And back then it wasn't like a lot of union rules,

713
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: so we used to work crazy hours and so like

714
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: crazy ho So it made us. It made us like comedic,

715
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: like beasts. Yeah.

716
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: But if you think about it as a network, yeah,

717
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: probably gotta you gotta test these little kids because they're little.

718
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: You guys, are kids. What's their attention span? How long

719
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: can they stay focused? So you put them through all

720
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: this stuff, and only the strong survive. Only the strong

721
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: survived real you know what I mean, because that's what

722
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: that's essentially what they try to do in the NFL.

723
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: That's why they have, you know, the combine the interviews,

724
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: because they're going to invest a lot of time money

725
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: in this thing or this person, this player. You know,

726
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: like they want to see what it's on its good

727
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: day at least try to get a glimpse of good days,

728
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: bad days. Competitive stamina. Does he like the focus? Does

729
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: he not like to focus? What's he like off the

730
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: like all that. So I'm sure they're doing that with

731
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: the kids.

732
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're not making child labor laws.

733
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: Bro.

734
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: Only only the strong survive the strong.

735
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: That's I was though, Hey, real talk.

736
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah so that was your level. Yeah, so that was

737
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: like when you got to like remember like the oil

738
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: levels and Sonic. Yeah, that was like that was like, yeah,

739
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: that was all night affair to get there. Once you

740
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: got there, you were hoping the spikes, spikes coming spikes

741
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: to get you get through.

742
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, So yeah, you get to that level, man,

743
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, first day on set

744
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: in Nickelodeon, boy nerves whoo Okay, so first day, so

745
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: we get there and now here's the thing, because it

746
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: was a special, So it was only supposed to be

747
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: a special because Nickelodeon was like scared, like they've never tried.

748
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: Anything like this.

749
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: This was a very like kids sketch comedy show. They've

750
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: never done that. They had like Roundhouse for the people

751
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: to remember Roundhouse and a couple of other shows on Nickelodeon,

752
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: but nothing like with this edge to it, you know

753
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: what I mean. And so, uh, they tried it out

754
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: just to see what would happen, and the rains went

755
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: through the roof. So we thought we were just shooting

756
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: this as a special and we were going back home.

757
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: That's literally what happened. We shot one episode, went back home,

758
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Uh, and waited for it

759
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: to air, you know. And when it aired, I mean,

760
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: everybody went crazy waiting through the roof. Everyone went nuts.

761
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: And then we went back and I remember Josh Server,

762
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 2: he's from Chicago, one of the cast members on the show,

763
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: and we had a feeling. We were just like, yo, man,

764
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: we're gonna be right back in the same spot. It's

765
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: gonna happen, you know what I mean. And we were

766
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: like it came back and we were right back there

767
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: shooting the first season, and I mean to be on

768
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: in Orlando around that time, you're talking about Back to

769
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: the Future two was popping, so they had the Back

770
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: to the Future ride. Shaq was killing it with the

771
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 2: Magic you know, Orlando was just that. Orlando was Magic,

772
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: Universe Studios, Disney, Keening, and Kell all that, well, all

773
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: that at that point, all that at that point, and

774
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: so we were kicking it all through like Orlando and

775
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: just having a blast with you know, Shak's family. Shak's

776
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: family used to come down and be on set and

777
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: stuff like that, being sketches and he would come down

778
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: and hang out with us. Michael Jamal Warner was directing,

779
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: Kim Fields directing, and then all these amazing musical acts

780
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: that I mentioned earlier, and then us in between breaks

781
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: would go and like you know, go get on the

782
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: Back to the Future ride and you know, do sketches

783
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and then also doing work, schoolwork too,

784
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: because uh, you know, I stayed in school and road

785
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: in my school in Chicago too as well, so we

786
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: had you know to take our test and homework. Oh yeah, homework.

787
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: What's the craziest I mean, you guys are kids, Okay,

788
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: now I know you're on a kid network. Yeah, there

789
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: had to be some crazy stuff behind stage, backstage cameras

790
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: not rolling. What's the craziest thing you saw back then? Oh?

791
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: Man, well wow that we can as far as you

792
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: want to go, we can't go that far. But yeah, this,

793
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: let's say it was some crazy things. It's some crazy

794
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: things you would see and I would tell people like

795
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: we were I mean I was a high school at

796
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: that time, so this was the time to get a

797
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: job anyway. So a lot of times when people are like.

798
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: High school malay and fame. Yeah, so when they go

799
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: just high school folks, yeah, man, and when.

800
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: People go like kid actors. I don't feel like I

801
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: was because I didn't get started like when I was

802
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: like five or eight on TV, that's a whole different,

803
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: you know, outlook on it. But around this time, it

804
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: was more of like we were just experiencing it together, bro,

805
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: like seeing it all come together because no one knew

806
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: that this vehicle of all that was going to take

807
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: off like I did. It just kind of blew everybody's

808
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: everybody's mind at that point, all of us too. It

809
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: was just like, man, it's still going. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

810
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: Let's jump back. We got a segment where we go

811
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: into the sports world. It's kind of piggyback off. What

812
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: was going on in ninety two? Yeah, Washington beat Buffalo.

813
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah in Super Bowl twenty six, Joe Gibbs, those teams

814
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: just couldn't win with those teams. You football fan, Bears.

815
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 2: Fan, I'm a Bears fan. I'm a Bears fan, always

816
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: will be.

817
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: Five Bears, eighty five Bears.

818
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: Eighty five Bears. Man Refrigerator, Perry. Shout out to Spice Adams.

819
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: You know Spice No, yeah, oh, on social I don't

820
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: know him, but I follow him.

821
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my boy.

822
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: Man.

823
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: She's a Bear fan all the way down.

824
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: And he'd be given funny, funny ass player perspective on

825
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: his ship with coaches and stuff like his little sketches.

826
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, well he knows the game.

827
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he played a long time, but there

828
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: was always a funny guy in the locker room like

829
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: that that you know, we'd go above and beyond on

830
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: some entertainment ship like with the Rookie Skits. You could

831
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: tell that dude was funny and the Rookie Skits. Yeah,

832
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: oh oh man. Larry Bird retired Larry Legend. Larry August eighteenth,

833
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: Great White Hypereata Gone.

834
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: Magic and Larry in the same year is tough magic

835
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 3: on Larry?

836
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: That was that was and that that's kind of the

837
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: passion of the torture.

838
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why did y'all pick that picture? He looks

839
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: so Yeah, I'm done with all that.

840
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: He was beat up. Larry didn't have a bad back,

841
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: terrible back.

842
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: These were the years where like Larry was hiking his

843
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: shorts up like past the belly button was, the back

844
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: was given out. It was time.

845
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: That looks like a bad back picture.

846
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: He's these dudes are six foot nine and they're wearing

847
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: those little lash They were wearing Chuck Taylor's back. Then.

848
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: If you're I wore a pair of Chuck Taylor's two

849
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: days ago, my feet still hurt, dude, that was what

850
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: they were hooping in. Yeah, like I can't even imagine. Yeah,

851
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: their backs are fucked up.

852
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 3: They also would give you forty in those though.

853
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: Man, man, the Chicago Blackhawks swept the Pittsburgh Penguins.

854
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: They were swept the Penguins.

855
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: Penguins. Yeah, do you remember this.

856
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: The Chicago black Was there some hYP going around Chicago

857
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: then Penguins and Stanley Cup Final. I don't remember that,

858
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: but I'm sure it was crazy.

859
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

860
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Like, you know what I loved about the black because

861
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: I wasn't in the hockey at that point.

862
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: They good, They're good merch.

863
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: But I love the merch man. I rocked the Chicago

864
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: Blackhawks jersey, like all the time, Sicago Black Haws jersey

865
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: was super Were they popped?

866
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: Like?

867
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: Where were they in the food chain of of Chicago

868
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: sports at that time for you guys?

869
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, hockey fans, yeah, yeah, okay, if there's if

870
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: there's the tear of sports in Chicago, yeah at this

871
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: time for you person, Yeah, Bulls, Bulls Pulls, and then

872
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: Bears Bears and then the black Hawks.

873
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: You a socks guy or comes down?

874
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, I forgot baseball. Okay, let's move back up.

875
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: Let's move back up. Okay, you gotta put that right

876
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: after the Bulls. Definitely gotta put Baba. You gotta put baseball, Cubs,

877
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: White Sox south side. So it was south you know,

878
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: the White Socks south side of Chicago.

879
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: Man.

880
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: But of course, you know when the Cubs won and

881
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 2: Chicago you go to the parade, you gotta come together

882
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: back then. Yeah, back then. I went to a lot

883
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: of them, man, and then shout out to the for

884
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: the Chicago folks, you know, but Billick and parade, Yeah,

885
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: it was just a parade that we do go out

886
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: in Chicago representing everybody. But yeah, man, and I remember

887
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: going to a Bulls game. It had to be ninety

888
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: two or like early nineties, and I was a kid

889
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: and we went there. We were like a Nosebley sections

890
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: like some something crazy. I think I went with the

891
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: boy Scouts or something like that. But we were screaming

892
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: out Mike because this was like when the like Mike commercials,

893
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: like Mike and all that. So we were screaming out

894
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: like Michael Michael, hoping he would turn around. And I

895
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: kid you not he turned around? Did he he turned around?

896
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was. It looked like he

897
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: was looking right he was he We lost it, We

898
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: believe we went crazy, like Michael.

899
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: Oh man. I remember going to candlestick. I remember those moments.

900
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: I was on a little football team and I don't know,

901
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: if you got a carton of milk or you got

902
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: like a coke, you can get a candleshit a candlestick

903
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: forty nine er ticket for like eight bucks. But Candlestick

904
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: is where the Giants and the forty nine ers played,

905
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: so they'd have to bring out these bleachers for when

906
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers came. And there was like an

907
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: area of the field where you couldn't see anything. If

908
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: it was on the other side of the fifty you

909
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: couldn't see anything. That's where these tickets were. But with

910
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: these tickets, you could see behind in the hallways of

911
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: where the players went. And I remember just putting my

912
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: little fingers in there and I saw like Jerry Rice

913
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: walk by, and I was just like, man, there's Jerry

914
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: and I and I think he gave me a It

915
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: just reminded that that Mike moment that you were talking about.

916
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: He gave me. He gave me a thing, like a piece.

917
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: Man.

918
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: I was so happy. I was glowing. I was glowing

919
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: for like.

920
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: Two weeks, big man.

921
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: I remember Hardball when the when the Key Kombas go

922
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: to Wrigley Field and Keanu Reeves takes me to Wrigley

923
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: Field and Jefferson Albert Tibbs, He's like, He's like Sammy, Sammy,

924
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: and Sammy turns around the waves back. Remember that Sammy's

925
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: taking beep. Anyways, that was so awesome.

926
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: Such sweet moments. Man. I did see a sad moment

927
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: with an athlete though, oh, because you were saying like

928
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: stuff behind the scenes. I can't say the athlete's name. Yeah,

929
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: but this was like because you know, we got invited

930
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: to all those remember the All Star weekend kid like

931
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: events that they used to do with the concert stuff.

932
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: So anyway, all the players are coming out and I

933
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: remember the kids. It was raining, and the kid had

934
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: the sharpie with the ball and he's like looking at

935
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: the player and the basketball. We're going to get it out.

936
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: So he's like he's sitting there with the sharpie, bro,

937
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: and he's just like can't wait. And it's like and

938
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm looking now because you know, I'm like it's gonna happen.

939
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: The player comes out, you know, and we're we're you know,

940
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: we're on at this point, keen k all that stuff.

941
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: And he walks out and the player just bumps him

942
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: and the ball hits the face. It's the saddest moment ever, dude,

943
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: And he hit some of the face that he's just

944
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: watching him go get in the car and just drop up.

945
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I was like, I would never do.

946
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that to the fans like that.

947
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: You can't do that.

948
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: That ship.

949
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: It was so sad.

950
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who that would be.

951
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: So did you bump Chris Weber and say, man, what's

952
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: up with that? Was it? Chris Webber? Chris, I'm a

953
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: big Chris Man. I'm just messing around.

954
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: Oh man. But yeah, I was a while win.

955
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

956
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: I needed to see that though, so I could be like, Okay,

957
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.

958
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: You never know, though, you know, like I try to,

959
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: you know, like with kids and when you're signing things.

960
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: It's always easy with the kids. But sometimes you have

961
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: these autographed people that send these kids. There's these autographed scalpers.

962
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: Sneaky, sneaky.

963
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: They find out you're an airport. It's three o'clock in

964
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: the morning. You get in an airport. How come there's

965
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: a six year old seven year old kid in the

966
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: airport three o'clock in the morning.

967
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: Only the strong survive, only the strong. Putting them kids

968
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: to work?

969
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: You put those kids to work.

970
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: He said, that's a little Charlie that works with that

971
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: crazy man.

972
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.

973
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they call them Chuck.

974
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: He's really thirty five eight.

975
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into the game, Jack.

976
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: Should we get into these teams?

977
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: They set the stage for these trails.

978
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 3: Kick it off with the Blazer.

979
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: Give me some background, Jack.

980
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: This was a good Blazers team. This was a good

981
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 3: Blazer era fifty seven and twenty five, led by Clyde.

982
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: As we were talking about earlier, he was having an

983
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: MVP caliber season. This was their second trip to the

984
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: finals in three years. They went nineteen ninety loss to

985
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas and those Pistons.

986
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: Uh.

987
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: They kept the same core.

988
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: For those years.

989
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: This was also the last trip to the finals for

990
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 3: the Blazers, which is a bummer coach by Rick Adalman.

991
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Uh. Big basketball are big. They love that. If I

992
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: played with guys from Oregon that are from Oregon, like,

993
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: they love that. It's a big, big community out there.

994
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: Big time. Bill Walton, Baby yeah.

995
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Bill Walton, this lastic Blazer.

996
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: I'll crow bar him in anytime I get the chance.

997
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 3: Danny Ainge also on this team, Danny and old Danny Clyde,

998
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: Big Clifford Robertson led by Rick Adalman. As we noted earlier,

999
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: and this was their tenth straight trip to the playoffs.

1000
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: So this was a solid era.

1001
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: For the Blazer They were killing it around the time.

1002
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 3: Yah, what comes to mind you think of this era Blazers?

1003
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: Man?

1004
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: Uh, first of all, because I'm into fashion, the starter

1005
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: jacket was insane.

1006
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Oh color red? Those are those are good? That's like,

1007
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: that's honestly why the Blackhawks were cool gear because then

1008
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: they tell me the black red and they got that

1009
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 1: little yellow and shipping there like that. Those are fire colors.

1010
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: And I remember and the household it was, you know, Clyde.

1011
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: I mean, this was like the battle of this you

1012
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean, of the century. These are the

1013
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: two superstars you talked about, Michael Jordan and Clyde, you know,

1014
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: like it was. It was always crazy, and this team

1015
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 2: was really good, you know what I mean, They're good.

1016
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: Ye know the all time Starters jacket though, what's your

1017
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: all time fire? Oh?

1018
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: Straight drippy fire, straight drippy one. Love the Bulls of course.

1019
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: But then also the one that I remember is the Raiders.

1020
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: Remember when I used to have the Starters trench coat?

1021
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, that's my real heads.

1022
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1023
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: DJ Quick used to rock that all the time, and

1024
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: I remember I got that one.

1025
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, one twin was fired too.

1026
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: I had them right, Yep.

1027
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: Fire Starter's jacket was in ninety four. I got a

1028
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: San Jose Sharks that teal black and white.

1029
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: That was a hard one.

1030
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't like a teal. It wasn't like, you know, Miami.

1031
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a blue, but like Miami's all.

1032
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: This was like black and white with a little teal.

1033
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: Shit was fired. It was like eight size is too big.

1034
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: I think I got it at a garage sale, but

1035
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: I wore that they for like nine years. Let's go,

1036
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: let's go.

1037
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: Should we get into these bulls, Let's go. Thank you.

1038
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 3: This was the middle year of the three peat m

1039
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: ninety two or ninety one ninety two, coming off their

1040
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 3: first silent franchise history, MJ winning his second straight MVP

1041
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: this season straight This is Jordan, this is pipp and

1042
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: this is Horace Grant were led by Phil Jackson. Sixty

1043
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: seven wins, fifteen losses. I mean it was a at

1044
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: the time, that was right at the time, I was

1045
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: already beat that. Now the Wearers have their seventy something.

1046
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: Also also had guys like this was like John Paxton,

1047
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: the the Stacy Kings the cart right or Kel was

1048
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: out there putting up when everyone else was yelling. Jordan

1049
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: Kel was yelling cart Right shooting little bj Armstrong.

1050
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: This was something there, but it goes in.

1051
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, for goes in. This was, of course Jerry Krouse,

1052
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 3: the uh uh. He was the GM as Michael always

1053
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 3: had as a foil in the In the last dance,

1054
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: Michael was hating Jerry Krause.

1055
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: We're pro, we're pro MJ, pro MJ. Just podcast, just

1056
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: to let everyone know pro MJ.

1057
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: Pro MJ average thirty.

1058
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't want that guy to ever see me and

1059
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: like hear that I said anything, and then he'd like

1060
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: try to out compete me in something.

1061
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: Always looking for the edge, always needed that chip on

1062
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: his shoulder, whether he's got a manufactured or not. That's

1063
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: why he's the goat through.

1064
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: I told this story about meeting MJ. Have I told

1065
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: on here?

1066
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: I think you have it told again.

1067
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I met MJ right before the Super Bowl. We

1068
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: were playing the Seahawks. You'll take your family out and

1069
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: I took my family out to a restaurant. MJ was

1070
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: there with Jeter, and Jeter was like most loving dude. Nice.

1071
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: I went up to I went and introduced myself. I'm

1072
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: playing in the game. I went up to, hey, mister Jeter,

1073
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: how you doing. Nice to meet you, Julian and playing,

1074
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, and he's like, oh, man, yeah, cool, yeah,

1075
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: And and MJ was like a little you know, kind

1076
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: of standoffish, you know, looking at me like, who's this

1077
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: a little young who's this little dude? And so finally

1078
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: at the end of everything, I dap him up. I go,

1079
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: mister Jordan, nice to meet you or something, and he goes,

1080
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: got a lot riding on you go you boys, don't

1081
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: fuck it up. That's all he said to me. That's

1082
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: what I knew. Yeah, he dog, he's a dog. He

1083
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: basically said, no fucking up. I got a lot of

1084
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: money on you guys. That's the only thing he said

1085
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: to me. Darren Jeters, we had ten minute conversation. We're talking.

1086
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: Is that keep your handing the game? I love it?

1087
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Man.

1088
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: Shout out to MJ. Man.

1089
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: You ever get to meet him? I met?

1090
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. And what's cool is that I met

1091
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: his kids and his wife first, which was that was

1092
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 2: kind of cool because it was one of the All

1093
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: Star weekends.

1094
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: Isn't one of his kids dating Scottie Pippin's E's wife.

1095
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: I believe, so I think they're engaged.

1096
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh I wonder how that holiday party goes.

1097
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: Bro. I'm not speaking on that have come out.

1098
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: We already estabed TM MJ.

1099
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: But they were super nice, man, super super nice. And

1100
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: it was cool that they they were walking up because

1101
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: they watched all that and keen the kell and they

1102
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 2: were excited. I took pictures with them at that time,

1103
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: so that was cool. And at this point, I believe

1104
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: because this was the game where Kobe well, I know

1105
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 2: we're talking about different game, but this was the Alsar

1106
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: game with Kobe and Michael Jordan met up, which that

1107
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: was was crazy because Kobe had been on our show

1108
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: which was super awesome around that time, and we you know,

1109
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: had a blast on him. But yeah, and then I've

1110
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: seen m J other times when kept North Carolina, I

1111
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: was up there, I was doing this like this Nickelodeon thing.

1112
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: This was this was a couple of years ago Nickelodeon thing.

1113
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: It's it's always been cool, Like I always hear the

1114
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: crazy stories, but it's like I haven't had a sit

1115
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: down conversation, but it's always been like, hey, Hi, it

1116
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: already gave me a jersey. He told me I'll go

1117
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 2: to the store and get whatever. So that was kind of cool.

1118
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: Jordan's really yeah, after my after the super Bowl and VP,

1119
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: we were we were talking with Jordan brand nice. But

1120
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: it would have I would have had to kill j E.

1121
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: They you couldn't have no offield merch. But I don't

1122
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: have to cover. I heard m J wanted me in there.

1123
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: You said, I like them Esky covers.

1124
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: So I.

1125
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: Should we get in the lead up of this game

1126
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 3: at the stage, all right, so this is the finals.

1127
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: Of course, the path to get there, Chicago ran through Miami,

1128
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: had a tough seven game series with the Knicks. This

1129
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: was the first year the pat Riley era in New York,

1130
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: so you know that was always a great rivalry. Then

1131
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 3: they met Cleveland again, another playoff foe for them. UH

1132
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 3: Portland an easier path l A Phoenix, Utah only lost

1133
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: Old La only lost four games in that UH those

1134
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 3: three series, so they were moving again. We talked about

1135
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 3: it a little bit earlier with kil uh Chicago move.

1136
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: They were posting up Mike a little bit more in

1137
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: this UH playoff run, getting to Mic in the post,

1138
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 3: getting a Mic in the post the turnaround was working.

1139
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: And then also the media with the passing of the torches,

1140
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 3: we said Larry's moving out, Magic's moving out. They wanted

1141
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 3: it to be Clyde versus Mike. Sports illustrated the week

1142
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: before this series he started got the cover right here

1143
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: as we see on a collision course and it's uh,

1144
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: Clyde driving on Mike. And then there was also the

1145
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: narrative that Clyde was kind of had the edge similar player.

1146
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 3: The numbers were similar, number one and two in MVP

1147
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 3: voting this year, but they were giving Clyde the advantage

1148
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 3: because his three point shooting was better. But as we

1149
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 3: said earlier, Mike had that famous quote, it's because I

1150
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: don't you know. He's saying, I don't choose to shoot

1151
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: as many threes as Clyde does. So coming into this series,

1152
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: which is very interesting stat here, Clyde had three hundred

1153
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: and thirty eight attempts that season, shot thirty three point

1154
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 3: seven percent. Mike only had one hundred attempts all year

1155
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: in eighty two games, shot twenty seven percent, So that

1156
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: means he made twenty seven threes out of those eighty

1157
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: two games. It just wasn't a part of Mike's game

1158
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 3: at the time, which is pret telling you.

1159
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: Think Mike would have balled, You think Mike would have

1160
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: changed his game and dominated this era. Yeah, I do.

1161
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: I think so definitely.

1162
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: I think that's a dog.

1163
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: Mike is amazing. He's amazing. And this is like with

1164
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: them threes, I mean, in the first half with you know, yeah,

1165
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: it's just like he was killing it. You know, you

1166
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: can't tell him he can't do something because he gonna

1167
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: do it. Michael George's gonna do it, you know what

1168
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he said, you know, I mean in Chicago,

1169
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: hero man.

1170
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: Did you buy into this hype though of the MJ

1171
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: versus Clyde?

1172
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were putting them up against each

1173
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: other so much. I mean, you know what I mean.

1174
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: It was it was like that, you know what I mean,

1175
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: and you wanted to see him winning and seeing it.

1176
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: As a kid, these were like our heroes, you know

1177
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: what I mean that we were watching, you know, and

1178
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: it was like a superhero you know fight, you know

1179
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it gets these two like amazing

1180
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: basketball players man at the time, yeah, you know, and

1181
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: everybody was playing the video games of course to you know,

1182
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: now go to gainst.

1183
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: You guys get your first championship last year being a

1184
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: Chicago native got Michael Jordan's greatest basketball player in the world. Yeah, like,

1185
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: going into this championship, what's the buzz in the city, like, Oh,

1186
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna handle these fools? Or was there a little

1187
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: like we gotta look out for Clyde or is it

1188
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: like we got something crazy special here? What was the

1189
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: what was going around.

1190
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: Chicago both handle and look out for Clyde? You know

1191
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: what I mean? Because you know they were crazy defense, offense,

1192
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: They could do pretty much everything, you know what I mean.

1193
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: So it was the same thing like knowing and Phil

1194
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: I think is just amazing at what he does, you

1195
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean as far as like his coaching

1196
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: is bananas. And to see that in this game because

1197
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: you're thinking one thing is gonna happen. They were in

1198
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: the paint waiting for Michael to do these dunks, waiting

1199
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: for these layups. Then all of a sudden, it's like, oh,

1200
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, here come these threes. I'm

1201
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: an rain on you real quick.

1202
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, well, the last one was the best because

1203
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: it was Clyde airballed and I got, Hey, this isn't

1204
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: a hate on Clyde.

1205
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: No, he's amazing.

1206
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 1: We're just going into the matchup of what this is

1207
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: the shrug game. But as soon as he airballed, Jordan

1208
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: went took it slack roof, I mean, and that music

1209
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: of the plays like three feet behind.

1210
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: Insane.

1211
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, And that's when he did the shrug.

1212
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: It's crazy. When he did the sdrug, he was like.

1213
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: Over at Magic at the scorer's table.

1214
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: Now, Magic said he was taking his money all night

1215
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: before when that story the story goes and he said

1216
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: he was shrugging him up because of that. I don't know, man,

1217
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: he was.

1218
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: Still riled up from getting getting whooped in cars by Magic.

1219
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 3: And uh and mister, that's what Magic said. He said,

1220
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 3: he woke up.

1221
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: The love Magic.

1222
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: Man.

1223
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: Now I've met Magic a bunch of times.

1224
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: Magic stories, Oh what.

1225
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: One.

1226
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 2: He's always his show, Like do I remember his TV show? Yeah,

1227
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson like show. It was like the Tonight Show.

1228
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: And uh, he had a great show. Keeny the keoe

1229
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: we're on there.

1230
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 1: Uh.

1231
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: He always like would encourage us like you guys, you guys,

1232
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: you got it? You you too? Yeah, yeah got it?

1233
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: Impression.

1234
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: That's a really good and he always had a big

1235
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: smile on his face, just like a lot of inspiration

1236
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: for us. Man, and I mean doing his show, his

1237
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: talk show was was fun because that was amazing seeing him,

1238
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: you know, put the jokes together.

1239
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, you know, as an athlete, is such a

1240
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: crazy inspiration.

1241
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: As a businessman.

1242
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, how to translate. You know,

1243
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: he's translated his career where these a lot of kids don't.

1244
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a historian game, you know Magic

1245
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: Johnson and he was an all time great. A lot

1246
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: of these kids know him as a businessman. Now you know,

1247
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: he a business team owner of this, He's in everything.

1248
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: He's got a bunch of franchises of this.

1249
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1250
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: Man, he's he's gone on and success and succeeded so

1251
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: much in every facet of his life. It's a real

1252
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: inspiration for young athletes that you know, got to play professionally.

1253
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: How to translate after you know your careers because this

1254
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: is a great temp job. But this is a temp job.

1255
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: This ain't like Hollywood or where you guys can you know,

1256
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: reinvent yourself and go and become you know older guy.

1257
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: This you got a certain amount of time and there's

1258
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that it hits so hard when

1259
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: it ends, you know, because you've been a creature of habit,

1260
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: you've been used to being an athlete, and then all

1261
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the day's gone. You know, you got

1262
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: to take guys like Magic Johnson. You gotta and like,

1263
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: that's that's the man who uses time well, uses connections well,

1264
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 1: his resources well. And and now he's at the top

1265
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: and the pinnacle. Hey man shacks and that ye Beckhams

1266
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: of the world. These guys that put their hands in

1267
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: so many you know, cool areas and succeed.

1268
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, was Magic the first to do that with like

1269
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: this from being an athlete to start commentating? Is he first?

1270
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: Or was that who did that first?

1271
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: First?

1272
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: To be commentating?

1273
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the games and stuff like that, like a you

1274
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1275
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: That was he.

1276
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: He was one of the ones that had the quickest

1277
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: turned around from retirement to booth. But gotta look, let

1278
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: me see.

1279
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like who went to the booth first? Because I

1280
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, that's that's like dope that athletes

1281
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: are down like. But I feel like Magic, I feel

1282
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: like Magic kind of showed everybody how to do it.

1283
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: But I don't know if he was the first one

1284
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: to do that.

1285
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, do you remember where'd you watch this game?

1286
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: It was on TV W Do you remember in Chicago?

1287
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: I know it was in Chicago. It had to be

1288
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: a barbecue at the house because everybody used to come

1289
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: over and watch the games, and everybody's screaming. I just

1290
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: remember everybody screaming at the house. It's super excited about it.

1291
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: Come on, Mike, Yeah, after after this game at the

1292
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: barbecues at the plate, did you immediately start seeing kids

1293
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: just shrug all time after they hooped and.

1294
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's the thing. I mean, yeah, you're definitely

1295
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: doing that.

1296
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: It became a pheno. It was like everyone did it.

1297
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: I didn't even play basketball that much. I do a

1298
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: football player.

1299
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: Of course. Of course everybody did that, man, and it

1300
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: was great. I remember because I was a short kid

1301
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: for a little bit, and I remember my sister's boyfriend, Uh,

1302
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: he threw me the ball in the game. I was

1303
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: playing all these you know, big kids, and I had

1304
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: to do a three point and I did the shrug.

1305
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: That was this amazing moment. It's like we're at Gayly

1306
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: Gayly Stadium. Shot out to Gaily South sud Chicago. But

1307
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: I know what I'm talking about. And they threw the

1308
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: ball to me, and you know, I wasn't crazy basketball player,

1309
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: but it was cool to be playing with these older kids.

1310
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: Hadn't shot a shot yet the whole game, and then

1311
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: they threw it out to me because I was open.

1312
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: This is a big moment, you know what I mean,

1313
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: because I had to show what I could do. Yeah,

1314
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: and I didn't know. I mean, like I said, they

1315
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 2: had the cart right with it was a little off

1316
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: and I flew out through it and everybody was like,

1317
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: we don't know what's gonna happen to that ball was

1318
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: flying in the air. They went and I was like, hey,

1319
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: that's what I do, not really what I do, not

1320
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: really what I do. But I said, hey, they didn't.

1321
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: It's such a it's such a slap in the face

1322
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: to one the game.

1323
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: The gate that was you know, that was every kid

1324
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: did it, every kid, Jackie, They had to do it.

1325
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: You maybe get him with the did I do that?

1326
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: I just.

1327
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: Guy, but shut out that was going through Mike's head

1328
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,959
Speaker 3: when he just rained a six to three on his head,

1329
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 3: setting the record. That was the story of this game.

1330
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean, the lasting image the most iconic moment. I mean,

1331
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: it's a gift. Now you send that everywhere. Uh again,

1332
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: thirty nine for Mike this game. Thirty five in the

1333
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: first half, six threes in the first.

1334
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: He didn't play six six minutes in the second quarter.

1335
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they sat him and start the second six minutes.

1336
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,919
Speaker 3: He did that without I mean insane. Portland started off hot,

1337
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 3: they were hitting everything. Then Jordan responds takes over after

1338
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 3: missing the two first threes.

1339
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

1340
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: And also it's worth noting eleven assists for mj in

1341
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 3: this one, finished up with uh thirty nine and they

1342
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: end up winning one twenty two to eighty nine, a

1343
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: blowout to start off the series. Kel at this point,

1344
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 3: did we like, all right, we're good money in the series.

1345
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: We just almost gave him a forty piece.

1346
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was but around this time it

1347
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: was so crazy in this series because new Portland was

1348
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: good too as well. Yeah, I mean, so it was

1349
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: always like you couldn't just sit back, you know what

1350
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean, You have to wait and see what see

1351
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: what would happen. It was all you were always on

1352
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: the edge of your see And that's what I really

1353
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: remember in each every series, and that's why the Bulls

1354
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: were so dope, because you know, just when you think like,

1355
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: oh no, you know what I mean, they'll come right

1356
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: back at, right back at Yeah.

1357
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they're in the They're in the finals

1358
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: for a reason.

1359
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: Of course.

1360
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: There's nothing comfort I mean there's there's nothing comforting, I

1361
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: assume as for a fan until the fat lady sings

1362
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: or I don't know if you say that the lady sings. Yeah,

1363
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: you gotta say ladies, I like big bone ladies and then.

1364
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, like you're shitting sharp. The other day he said,

1365
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 3: if he ate one.

1366
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Lady, you killing it.

1367
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: He's killing it.

1368
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: Bro. So aftermath, the Bulls go on to win the

1369
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: Series four two, Jordan, Pippen, and Drexler all playing the

1370
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: Dream Team with our old guys.

1371
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: Larry was still there. That was Larry's last year.

1372
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: He was icing the back.

1373
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 3: I was reading a little something about that this morning.

1374
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 3: They said Jordan just dog Clyde the whole training camp,

1375
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: every practice. Really, he was like, didn't I just bust

1376
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: your ass? Like they said, It got to the point

1377
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: where UDEs had to be yo, chill, Mike got.

1378
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: It, got him.

1379
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: Man. Now you could tell that's there's guys that they

1380
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: use that ship, you know, to bring them to a whole.

1381
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: Another one that was Mike. I mean, we've all we've

1382
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: all watched the series. Dud's crazy in a great way.

1383
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 1: The Bulls by winning ninety two, ninety three, ninety four.

1384
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 1: This was the middle Jordan retires in ninety three. Remember that,

1385
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: uh to go play baseb.

1386
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 3: Remember what did you think of that?

1387
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: Kil That was wild?

1388
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: How was that?

1389
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: We were like what are you? What? What are you

1390
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: doing what? But then it was kind of like because

1391
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: I think around this time, I was into it because

1392
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm just like, well, i mean, he's killing it in

1393
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 2: basketball and Bo Jackson was doing everything around that time,

1394
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: so I'm just like, of course, like yeah, let's see

1395
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: what he could do with it.

1396
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: He thought he was he thought he was good.

1397
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, not as good as basketball,

1398
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 2: but he did his thing. I remember he hit a

1399
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: home I remember it was the thing where he hit

1400
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: a home run, like it was he did something like

1401
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: some type of home run. I didn't follow the baseball career,

1402
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: but I remember when it happened, and everybody's like yo.

1403
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: And then with golf because I remember he did that too,

1404
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: did it and got it right in the hole, So

1405
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: you know he had his moments.

1406
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: Didn't Frank. It was his manager, the Boston guy, Franco

1407
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: manager that won with the Red Sox.

1408
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 3: Oh, Terry Francona.

1409
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Francona was his manager in on the Triple A team.

1410
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 3: That's right, Birmingham Barons. Right, Yeah, that's crazy, dude, Good

1411
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 3: pull there, bro.

1412
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: Now do you ever think any athlete will have the

1413
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: same kind of aura, solar system, whatever you want to

1414
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: call it, Like like Mike, I mean a shoe, I'm

1415
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: still wearing his shoes.

1416
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, facts, facts, me too. I feel like everybody has

1417
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: their their story, you know what I mean, Like you

1418
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: can't because it's a lot of comparing. Everybody wants to compare,

1419
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, oh, this person's like

1420
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: that and this, But everybody got their their own thing,

1421
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's really cool about it. Like

1422
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: you kind of look at it like these are like

1423
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 2: the I always say adventures, but I'm into like you know, Marvel.

1424
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: And stuff like that.

1425
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: But you gotta look at it like give every superhero

1426
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: you know, their props, you know what I mean, Like.

1427
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: Marvels guy, who's Michael Jordan The Marvel.

1428
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: Scene look what he doing. You see how you did?

1429
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a pro baby. Let me see.

1430
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the Avengers, okay, and we got

1431
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: all the superheroes. I want to say he's spider Man.

1432
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: Spider Man, you know a reasoning.

1433
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: People are probably gonna be like what what what what?

1434
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: But Spider Man is like the most recognizable out of

1435
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: all the eventuals, Like if you really like how to

1436
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 2: look at it and then the colors that he has, uh,

1437
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: if you look at what he does and how he's

1438
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: still staying with it, you know what I mean, Like

1439
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: it's still there, you know what I mean, Like it's

1440
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: still there, Like no matter what everybody else is going on,

1441
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 2: Spider Man is still doing his thing.

1442
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: Jordi s yeah, Man.

1443
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what it. That's what it is. Man.

1444
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: Who's Lebron?

1445
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Who's Lebron? I want to

1446
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: say he's Hulk.

1447
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: I like that.

1448
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: I like that, you know what I'm saying, That's Hulk.

1449
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: It's like the same, you know what I mean, It's

1450
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: that vibe. Well, Who's Shack? Shout out to shack Man,

1451
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: good burger. He was a good burger. Who's Shack? In

1452
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: the Marvel universe. Who you all think Shack is. I'm

1453
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 2: trying to think where I could put Shack in the

1454
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 2: Marvel man, that would be dope. Wait, okay, so we

1455
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: got lebron As Hope, we got uh, Michael Jordan's Spider

1456
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: Man uh, and you got shock ass Mmm.

1457
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 1: I think Michael Jordan's Danos.

1458
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 3: Got the rings?

1459
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: Oh so well, I'm just sticking hero. I didn't you

1460
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 2: a villain? Side you villain? I didn't know we was

1461
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: including the villains. Okay, well, yeah, with all the rings

1462
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: you got, that's a fun one, y'all. Need to put

1463
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: that out there. Man, that's a fun one to do.

1464
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: Like the Marvel universe of n b A NBA teams.

1465
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:48,560
Speaker 3: That's the hot one, got it?

1466
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hot one. I like that.

1467
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,560
Speaker 1: Give it so crazy. MJ retires, goes and plays basketball

1468
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, comes back, three pizza again.

1469
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: Ever seen a three peat in basketball again?

1470
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 2: Like that?

1471
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: In general? Is there gonna be another three pet No?

1472
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: It's such a different it's.

1473
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 3: A different world building.

1474
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 2: With the you know, yeah, with the players switching teams

1475
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: so much, you know what I mean, It's like it's

1476
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: a whole different vibe now, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1477
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: Like Mike stayed there. He was like, we're gonna rock

1478
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: it out, you know what I mean?

1479
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: Yes, right, Jackie. Do we have any leftovers? We got

1480
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: uh left?

1481
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 3: We talked just some just some questions we didn't get

1482
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 3: to earlier. We're talking Jordan's We're talking the cultural impact,

1483
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: the staying power. Kell If you had to pick a

1484
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,839
Speaker 3: favorite Jordan shoe, what are you picking? One through twenty

1485
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 3: whatever they've been He's right here, can't come on with

1486
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 3: some ones sick, you can't go.

1487
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: It's only one answer. Yeah, there's one answer, that's right.

1488
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: I like the Space Jams. Eleven guys.

1489
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 2: I do like the Space Jams because I do have

1490
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: a parodo, So I do love the Space Jam joints,

1491
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: the flu the Flu games. Dad, that shoe was insane.

1492
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 2: I like that shoe.

1493
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: I like that. I love, I love. I used to

1494
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: train in the tens because they were wide, they were comfy.

1495
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: They're like Cadillacs.

1496
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1497
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: I had the Twelves that played in my seventh grade

1498
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 1: basketball team. On the Twelves was hard, yeah, but they

1499
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: had a little uh, they had a little guy in

1500
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: the back, the hologram guy. But people were kind of

1501
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: calling them like pay Less shoes because remember they had

1502
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: the dots like the Payless shoes used to have, and

1503
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: people were like that pale. I'm like, no, it's George, dude,

1504
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about that's the worst.

1505
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh about.

1506
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: We got cal what we talked to burgers earlier. Yeah,

1507
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: a couple of burger connoisseurs here. If you had to

1508
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 3: build your perfect burger, what's on that thing? Oh?

1509
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so you gotta have some avocado on that avocado?

1510
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1511
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: People in Chicago, right, you know, we're all right, we're

1512
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: gonna put some of this California stuff on it.

1513
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: Let's get that healthy in there, you know, throw throw

1514
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: that in there healthy, you know. I you know, I've

1515
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 2: had so many different burgers. You know, you got salmon burgers,

1516
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: you got if you know how to do turkey right,

1517
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: you got the good turkey bcers because some people drive

1518
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: turkey out to barbecue it correctly. Uh, but you don't,

1519
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: being for Scotgland, know how to smoke the you know,

1520
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: the meat the right way and make it make it real.

1521
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: Nice trigger smoker.

1522
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean? Come on, you know,

1523
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: make it real right?

1524
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: Uh? Sauces you know what I mean?

1525
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: And sauces. You gotta go with egg sauce.

1526
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: Egg sauce, no ed egg sauce, sauce.

1527
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: That said sauce, good burger? What can you tell you?

1528
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: It's a secret?

1529
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: Is it like a thousand islands?

1530
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 2: You got to come by the house man secret?

1531
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: Well? How do I find this head sauce?

1532
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 2: From it?

1533
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: Well? Where can I go to? Where can I see ed?

1534
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 2: Right? Here?

1535
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: Did? Where do I get the sauce? Is the sauce here?

1536
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: And make the burger for you didn't put the sauce

1537
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 2: on there?

1538
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: How do I get real?

1539
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 3: Who's on?

1540
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: First name? Oh?

1541
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 3: My lord?

1542
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: Let's grade the game. Let's grade the game. Let's go

1543
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: the name of the games, the shug game. Is this

1544
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: the best game of all time? Let's score it?

1545
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 2: Steaks.

1546
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: Game one is game one of the championships. So the

1547
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: stakes of the game one to ten decimal's okay, But

1548
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: the stakes in a game one of a final. Now

1549
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: we've had game sevens, we've had Super Bowls. What are

1550
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: the stakes one to ten? With decimo being okay.

1551
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: They were going up against this is one through ten?

1552
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: One through ten stakes A high high stake ten man, just.

1553
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: To put in, you know, in perspective, in context. We've

1554
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:54,480
Speaker 1: had you know, game seven's on the show. We've had

1555
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: you know.

1556
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 3: One game elimination. If you fuck up this game, you

1557
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: got six to more to correct it and up. It

1558
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 3: is still fine, it's still finals.

1559
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: Still we're going ten.

1560
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mann, star power. Oh that's big.

1561
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: One to ten.

1562
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, it's pretty high.

1563
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: It's pretty hid highsty people at the game and he

1564
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: started in the game.

1565
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: I didn't see any in the crowd that were of note. No, uh,

1566
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 3: this is in full l a celebro. But I mean

1567
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 3: on the court, I mean Jordan Pippen, Phil.

1568
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: I mean some legendary yeah, on the court and crazy

1569
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: all right, so one ten, this is your kid, Let's

1570
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: do it.

1571
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: Nine nine nine nine. The gameplay, I mean it was

1572
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: what was it the final score.

1573
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: One two eighty nine. So it was a wouldn't blowouts blowout?

1574
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: There was? It was a statement game. Yeah, yeah, start

1575
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: off high statement, surfast from the bulls and let.

1576
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 2: Him know what's happening. I'm gonna go. Let's go to man.

1577
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: Ten to ten. On the gameplay, I mean, he did

1578
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: set a record in the first half for most threes

1579
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: and thirty five points that still stand today.

1580
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,799
Speaker 3: Still standing today.

1581
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: The name of the game, the shrug game one to ten?

1582
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: What is the name?

1583
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: Oh, y'all rate the name of a game?

1584
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: I rate the name?

1585
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: Oh I like that. The shrug, I mean the shrug,

1586
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: That's what it was. But I get I get it.

1587
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 1: Eight eight eight, Yeah, I just got some One of

1588
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: my producers hit me. He's sick right now, named Kyler.

1589
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: He's gonna go and say, well, gameplay being a ten

1590
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: on a forty forty forty point blowout like we've had

1591
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: twenty eight to three, We've had this, We've had that.

1592
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: Now you are you do? You? Are you sure? Final question?

1593
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: Finally answer, you want gameplay to be a ten?

1594
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: Kyler's our Russian Joe. He's a the Russian.

1595
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: He's Russian, he's tough, he's Russian judge.

1596
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh do I want gameplay to be a ten? I

1597
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 2: mean if we're talking about what happened.

1598
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: Though, Tim, right now he's working remote, he said, thank you,

1599
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: he's working remote.

1600
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 2: Oh so I can't, No, you can't.

1601
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: But just we're gonna think.

1602
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: About what happened. Man, like this is us seeing Jordan

1603
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 2: like take off show this other skill, keep it.

1604
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: Ten, what's the let's see what the my i'm uh

1605
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 3: if my math is correct, I believe this is a

1606
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 3: nine point twenty five.

1607
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: Where does it stand in our list here of the

1608
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: games that we've done here on the games with names.

1609
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 3: Just behind game four of or just ahead of Game four,

1610
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 3: the two thousand and four Alcs, and then just behind

1611
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 3: the eighteen and one Super Bowl Giants, first Patriots?

1612
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: What was that the game where the Red Sox were

1613
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: down three to zero and they were down like a

1614
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: bunch of ye and then they came back.

1615
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 3: Back against the wall, big poppy, mister Clutch comes through

1616
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 3: and the rest is history.

1617
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh man, So yeah, this is a this is a

1618
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: high one, man, the high one.

1619
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 3: It's our first Jordan game.

1620
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: So it's our first Jordan game.

1621
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: There it is.

1622
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's sh it's a shrug game.

1623
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: Shot town baby, give him the shrugs.

1624
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: Shuy yo.

1625
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 2: And and since there's the show NBA players. Ron Harper

1626
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 2: was on keenan Keill.

1627
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 3: We were watching that, watching that episode. He dropped the

1628
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 3: one dropped it.

1629
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: Went, you know, we do research, and I wanted to

1630
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: brush up and was he cool?

1631
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: He was mad cool, mad cool. It was like and

1632
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 2: then you could you know acting, you know, it was

1633
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: like his you know, first acting gig. But he did.

1634
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: He got the lines down.

1635
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: It was cool.

1636
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: Who is the worst celebrity at acting?

1637
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: I'm not going to ask was it wasn't Grink Gronk

1638
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: was killing you.

1639
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: Oh he's comes ready, man with and I love Gronk. Man,

1640
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 2: We've working with him a few times. Oh really, Oh

1641
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 2: he's awesome, bro. You know, got a great welcome to

1642
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 2: Good Burger like impersonation to Yeah he does. He cracks

1643
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 2: me up.

1644
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: Man.

1645
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: Uh but yeah, man, no, you don't have to answer, Okay, yeah,

1646
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: I like, I'm not gonna after that. Man, I'm gonna

1647
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 2: see her see these people in the streets.

1648
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: We missed anything from this game?

1649
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: Nah, man, I'm and it was. It was an awesome game,

1650
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 2: you know, amazing game. I mean everybody knows that scene

1651
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: it you know, it's great, you know, and the commentating

1652
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: by Magic is amazing and it as well, you know

1653
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 2: what I mean. Uh yeah, man, this shrug game. Man,

1654
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: you gotta do it, you know what I mean. And

1655
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: then don't let nobody you know, botch you in man,

1656
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I can't I can't let him,

1657
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,879
Speaker 2: Mike us that Michael, Yeah.

1658
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: He'll stew something up and yeah, punish you for it. Dude, everyone,

1659
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: you gotta go out and see Good Burger Too on

1660
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: Paramount Plus streaming. Now anything we miss you want anything

1661
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:42,520
Speaker 1: else to plug.

1662
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 2: Man much love y'all. You know when I come back,

1663
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 2: we gotta talk about Robin's right hut out Dennis Worm.

1664
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1665
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, Man, yeah Man, Good Burger too, Man, go

1666
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 2: check it out.

1667
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: Gotta check it out. Yeah, I appreciate you coming on, man,

1668
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Bro Man. What a what

1669
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: a fun episode, kil rock Man.

1670
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 3: Good energy, What a guy?

1671
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: What an energy? What a guy? And also it brought

1672
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: us down memory lane of like, at least for me.

1673
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thirty seven thirty turned thirty eight eighty two Nickelodeon.

1674
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 3: Sweet Spot, Sweet Spots Spot, Oh my god. Speaking of

1675
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 3: that and speaking of Good Burger in great fictional burger spots,

1676
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: that brings us to the post show segment.

1677
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: What's the post show segment?

1678
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 3: Let's talk about which fictional burger spots we would most

1679
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 3: want to hit up. What's the pulp fiction fiction spot? Dude,

1680
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: that's my that is my pick, Big Cohuna Burger Big.

1681
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 3: They got the tasty beverages.

1682
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I think someone's opening it that that that

1683
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: always did. It looks pretty good. I kind of like that.

1684
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: They had Burger World and Beavis and butt Head. That's

1685
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 3: Oberger from that seventies show.

1686
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: I like Krusty Burger from Krusty Burger.

1687
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: From The Simpsons. God, I love that man, Krusty.

1688
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: What else?

1689
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: We got Paunchberger from Parks and Rech.

1690
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: What what's a burger? And uh, SpongeBob, oh Krabby, Patty Krabby,

1691
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: Patty Krabby.

1692
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,879
Speaker 3: Patty also can't forget about McDowell's bro coming to amaras

1693
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 3: to America. That's the best one. We're sitting in New York,

1694
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 3: huddle up meeting at McDowell's. Oh my god, remember.

1695
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: The scene where he's talking about the giants and no,

1696
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: and he was talking about the giant Eddie Murphy's guy.

1697
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: He was talking about the giants and and the boss

1698
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: the dad. He goes, Son, you need to lay off.

1699
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: Don't fact check me. But I just I just saw it.

1700
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: I just saw it on something. It was pretty funny.

1701
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 3: My Coming to America knowledge is I haven't seen it

1702
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 3: in a while.

1703
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm coming to America. We gott to rewatch that the

1704
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: barbershop scenes are always the best. Everybody who Eddie Murphy

1705
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 1: is the white guy is so funny.

1706
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: It will never not be funny playing the old white guy.

1707
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: He's like the original guy that did other like all

1708
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 1: characters in the movie came back.

1709
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 3: To bite and when he was doing all the characters

1710
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 3: in Norbit, I said, that's why they said they didn't

1711
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: give him the Oscar. He was up for the Oscar

1712
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 3: and dream Girls, and then Norbit came out in between

1713
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 3: the voting period and they punished him for Norburt Orbit Norbit.

1714
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 3: What hell you gonna punish any for that? Can't can't

1715
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 3: forget about some other ones. You got Mcburger Town and

1716
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 3: Family Guy. They're counting some of these lists. Count the

1717
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 3: Max from Save by the Bell. I don't know. I

1718
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 3: think that is a burger spot. More is like a Max,

1719
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 3: like a diner. It's a good spot to sit on

1720
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 3: a chair backwards ac Slater style.

1721
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 1: But burger eh, I mean they probably got a burger,

1722
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: but you wouldn't. You probably get like mozzarella sticks, Yeah,

1723
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: like a little.

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01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 3: Basket of fries. Yeah, like you're trying to you're trying

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Speaker 3: to rise up, you know, Kelly Kopowski. Here, I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying to stuff my face with a big burger.

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Speaker 1: I can't be sloppy. And maybe some chicken fingers, some

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Speaker 1: good and clean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah alright, So I feel like the consensus is we're

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Speaker 3: hitting big Cohonah. Hell yes, shout out Quentin, shout out Samuel.

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Speaker 1: Julius is a tasty burger.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: One episode thanks to Kell again. That's been another episode

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