1 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros podcast. I'm 2 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: your host, Dan Harris. Find me on Twitter at Dan 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Harris eighty. It is time for an early look at 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: the week six NFL lines, and to break it all 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: down with me is my friend Mike Randall from the 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Action Network. You can find him on Twitter at Randall Rant. Mike, 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the show. 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: How you doing, Dan, I'm doing great. It's an honor. 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: Week six here, refreshed and replenished from an exciting Week five, 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: we can hit week six and go over all the games. 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: First of all, is the second time we've been talking 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: that you've said that it's an honor to be on 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: this podcast, So I feel like you have definitely put 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: this up way too. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: High on like a pedestal. 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Right, all right for me, I'm fine to be here. 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: It's nice to have you whatever. I don't really care 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: that much, but anyway, let's get into it. 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: We got it. 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: You're right. It was a crazy week. 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Watching last night was just nuts, absolutely nuts. You know, 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: we do a lot of fantasy, obviously, and it was 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: just insane, completely decided fantasy. I was thankfully on the 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Colts plus seven and a half did you climb to 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: it at the very end, so thankfully, but it was 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: getting a little nerve wracking there. 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get into it. 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: Before we do, let me give you the latest software 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: of course, from bet MGM. 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Walk through some of 51 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: the lines. 52 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: Let's go through them. We'll run through them. Dan, if 53 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: you want, walk over whatever you want. 54 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: I should have you on this podcast every week. Let's 55 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: go with. 56 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: The Bucks are visiting the Eagles on Thursday Night Football. 57 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: The Bucks are currently laying seven. The total is fifty 58 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: two and a half. We obviously have some unknowns a 59 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: little bit here. You've got maybe Rob Gronkowski plays. Hopefully 60 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: we'll know that soon. Brady has the big rap apparently 61 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: on his thumb. Chances are he's going to play. What 62 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: do you think here with the point spread of seven. 63 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going towards the Bucks. Do you know Dan 64 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: that the Buccaneers have allowed to opposing quarterbacks a grand 65 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: total of thirteen yards this year on nine attempts. On 66 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: the other side, we have Jalen Hurts here second among 67 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: all quarterbacks and rushing yards. Something has to give. I'm 68 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: gonna go with the Bucks defense. The Bucks play at 69 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: a real fast paced Philadelphia has been tough. They battled. 70 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: They had the great comeback win against Carolina this week. 71 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: But Tampa Bay has just been clicking. Has so many weapons, 72 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: Antonio Brown, Tom Brady, the offense is so efficient. I 73 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: just don't see a way that Philadelphia is gonna be 74 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: able to generate enough points if they're not dominant on 75 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: the ground, and they're not going to be. Jalen Hurts 76 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: has been oppressive for fantasy owners. They love him because 77 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: he finds a way to get to those twenty to 78 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: twenty five fantasy points, but I don't trust their passing attack. 79 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: The Eagles always play hard, have a strong defense. It 80 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: looks like they'll be without Dallas Goddard this week, also, 81 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: who was just placed on the COVID list. Bucks are 82 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: also four and one to the over this year in 83 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: their games. This game is hovering in that low fifty range. 84 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna go well. Over games in prime 85 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: time were really hot going to the over, then they 86 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: slowed down in Week four. I think this one picks 87 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: up again. The Eagles always can score points late. I'm 88 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: gonna take the Bucks and lay the points. I wish 89 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: it was at six and a half, which it was 90 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: at earlier in the week, but I'll lay this here 91 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: for the Buccaneers on the road. 92 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: It is oddly enough, it is at six and a 93 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: half at my book, thankfully at DraftKings, so I will 94 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: be able to take it. But I am in agreement 95 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: with you all the way around. And again, people have 96 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: been listening to this podcast now, I basically back the 97 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Eagles every week we have our three best bets. I 98 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: took the Eagles this week against the Panthers. 99 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: I like, sort of. 100 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: I think there's so much more under the surface with 101 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles, but not in this game right now. I 102 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: really don't see how it's gonna happen. And again, the total, 103 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: you're right, do you think it's gonna move by the way, 104 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I assume it's probably seven. I feel like 105 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: it's probably where other than DraftKings. Seven is probably where 106 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: it lands in the end. I mean, we all have 107 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: a couple of days at this point, but. 108 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: I think it's seven. You don't want to give that 109 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: seven and a half. And we saw last night with 110 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: the Colts and the Ravens how important that seven is. 111 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: That's the place it's gonna end up. I just see 112 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: this game being very similar when the Chiefs played at 113 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: Philadelphia and it just gets away from them late couple 114 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: turnovers there. They will battle with Hurts, but I don't 115 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: see a situation Dan where Hurts and the Eagles offense 116 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: can dominate on the ground. And if that's the case, 117 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: this game could get blown wide open. 118 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not even gonna Nobody even attempts at 119 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: this point to run the ball whatsoever. It's gonna be 120 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: interesting to see what Hurt says. But it was a 121 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: great sat that you gave there about quarterbacks rushing. Let's 122 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: go to the Dolphins visiting the Jaguars. Dolphins are laying 123 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: three and a half right now in the total is 124 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: forty seven. 125 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: What do you think. 126 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: Favorites in the London game over in the pond nineteen 127 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: to ten against the spread. That's sixty six percent. Jaguars 128 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: have their bye week coming up, and there's a lot 129 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: of reports that Urban Meyer will be fired, so you 130 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: can argue he's a dead man walking here. Miles Gaskin 131 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: came alive for the Dolphins. He was the PPR RB 132 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: two and the Jags are just dreadful on defense, thirty 133 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: first overall, only behind the Chiefs. I trust Brian Flores 134 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 2: more getting his team ready. There's not gonna be Will Fuller. 135 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: There's injuries on both sides. No DJ chalk for Jacksonville. 136 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: I just think that the Dolphins right now are the 137 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: more cohesive unit. I think they're better coached, and I 138 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: think they find a way here with a little more 139 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: talent than a Jaguars team that is just going in 140 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: the wrong direction. I do like the under here, though, 141 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: I have to tell you the Jags in Miami, they're 142 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: both very slow in their pace. I know that the 143 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 2: over got there last week in sort of an odd 144 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: situation at the end of the game. But I like 145 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: the Dolphins to win this game to cover the number, 146 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: and I do like the under here. Over in the 147 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: pond with this game between the Jags and Dolphins. 148 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: This is where you think it ends up, by the 149 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 3: way three and a. 150 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: Half, Yeah, I think so. They're gonna those key numbers 151 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: are three and seven, so they're gonna want to keep 152 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: it there to try to attract the fifty to fifty action. 153 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: But I just don't think it's gonna matter because I 154 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: think the Dolphins here finally have found a running back 155 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: that they need, Jacoby Brissett, is very solid. Trevor Lawrence 156 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: has had some turnover problems. They still should have beat 157 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: the Cardinals in that game except for that ridiculous flea 158 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: flicker at home that was a pick six. So I'm 159 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: just trusting the better team. Other Jaguars going to break 160 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: through here for a lame duck coach over in the 161 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: pond against the Dolphins, I don't see it. 162 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: Hey, can I ask? 163 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: Because I think and again I'm being as totally honest 164 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: with our audience as possible as I said. I was 165 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: visiting family in New York. I've been keeping up with 166 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the news. I've still been working, but I've been driving 167 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: pretty much all day. I there seems to be some 168 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of remote optimism that Tua could potentially play in 169 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: this game. 170 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Or am I totally off on that? Is it just 171 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: definitely preset in. 172 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: This I'm hearing that I think it's gonna be Brissett. 173 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: If it was Tua, I would feel even stronger about 174 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: this because I think he comes back and he gives them, 175 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, he still has that talent. People are down 176 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: on two are very polarizing in Miami. If he comes back, 177 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: I like it even more. I'm making this pick based. 178 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: On Bressett perfect. 179 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I thought, by the way, because I 180 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: also like it more if Tua comes back, and I 181 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: agree like I was very high, again mostly from a 182 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: fantasy perspective, but on what we were going to see from 183 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: two and now they've got injuries. Who who knows a 184 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Parker is going to play, and as you said, they're 185 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: already down Will Fuller. I don't think it matters. I 186 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: think they can easily take this game. The Jaguars are 187 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: in disarray, and you're right after that bye week, we're 188 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: going to see what's coming up. The Vikings now are 189 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: visiting the Panthers. The Panthers are laying a point and 190 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: the total is forty six. 191 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: What do you think about this one? 192 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: I like the Vikings here. I have had some strange 193 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: attraction to the Minnesota Vikings all year. I trust Mike Zimmer. 194 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: I think this defense is going to improve. They should 195 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: have had a couple more wins. Of course, the miskick 196 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: against Arizona. They were gaming at Cincinnati in the opening game. 197 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: Both Carolina and Minnesota are great against the pass. The 198 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: Vikings do need Dalvin cookback. I'm hoping he returns here. 199 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: Alexander Madison is fine. But I like this Vikings team. 200 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna get better as the year goes on. Now, 201 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: the line opened at three and dropped despite the overwhelming 202 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: amount of bets and money are coming in on the Panthers. 203 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are very live underdog here. People 204 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: are going to be off them because you can argue 205 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: they should have lost against Detroit last week. No problem, 206 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: I like the Vikings. I think the Panthers are a 207 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: little overrated right now. Sam Darnold's been fantastic. I don't 208 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: think last week is going to repeat itself. But I 209 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 2: think this is a very close game. I think it's 210 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: a low scoring game and I will take the Vikings 211 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: here to pull the upset straight up against the Panthers. 212 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right. Again. 213 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: I actually thought very disappointing with the Vikings because I 214 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: mean they were laying I think it might have closed 215 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: at ten. It was nine and half when I saw 216 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: it early on the week. I thought they were gonna cover. 217 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna absolutely blow the doors off 218 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: that game, and they didn't. And they just couldn't put 219 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: the lines away. Now admittedly they should, I mean, you 220 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: know they fumbled at the end. The fact that they 221 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: won on the last second field go like they also 222 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: fumble the ball away that allowed the Lions obviously to 223 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: score and take the lead. But I agree, I've kind 224 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: of look, man, I get that the Panthers start out hot, 225 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: their defense played has played better than expected generally, and 226 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: it's fairly strong. But realistically, I've seen Sam Donald play 227 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: for years. This does not look like a different version 228 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: of Sam Donald right now. So I'm all about fading 229 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers. I agree with you right now, even on 230 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: the road, I would. I do like the Vikings here. 231 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Bengals are visiting the Lions. The Bengals are laying three 232 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: and a half. The total is forty seven and a half. 233 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: What do you think? 234 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: You know, the Lions have played very tough and if 235 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: you look at the stats, they don't look that great 236 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: with DVOA. But I like the Lions at home here 237 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: getting that number. That is a key number you're going 238 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: to give to me. The Bengals are going on the road. 239 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: They fought against that Packers team. The Lions should have 240 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: won this game. They are still fighting for Dan Campbell. 241 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift has been absolutely fantastic and the Bengals get 242 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: gashed by opposing pass catching running back second most targets, 243 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: third most receptions. I think this is a possible win 244 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: for the Lions at home. I think they're gonna get 245 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: off the schneid here and find a way to beat 246 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: a Bengals team that still has troubles Dan on that 247 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: offensive line, Dan Campbell gets that defense fighting Jared Goff. 248 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: Hopefully Hockinson is able to play and can be effective. 249 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: I like the Lions here. That's a lot of points 250 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: to be laying with a Bengals team on the road. 251 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: They have played well, the defense has played well, so again, 252 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: I like the under here, but I'm not at the 253 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: point where I'm laying points with the Bengals on the 254 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: road yet, not against the team that will respond positively 255 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: to that Dan Campbell press conference after the loss last week. 256 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: This strikes me as a game where the public is 257 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: going to be more on the Bengals and the sharp 258 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: betterers are going to be more on the Lions, right 259 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: because as long as you are getting that hook, there's 260 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: going to be value with that on lines at home. 261 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: Who again, as you mentioned, they play their butts off 262 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: all right. They may not have the talent right now. 263 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: Their offensive line has been decimated another injury a wide 264 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: receiver right now with quint Stivas and the collar bone, 265 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: but they have enough. 266 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: Sort of wherewithal I think to keep this game close. 267 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: So if you are getting overfield goal out of curiosity, 268 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: do you think, because I'm assuming right now, that when 269 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: you're going to count the number of bets that come in, 270 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be heavily on the Bengals. When you're 271 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: gonna count the money, it's going to be closer to 272 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty, maybe even lean the Lions. Do you 273 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: think the Lion stays at above the field goal? Do 274 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: you think there's any possibility of the books putting it down, 275 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: in which case it's better to grab it now. 276 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bets are probably about two to one to 277 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals right now, but the Lions are getting the 278 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: majority of the money. Of course, I love those situations 279 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: where the majority of bets are going one way and 280 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: the line moves in the favor of those people that 281 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: are betting, because it sort of gives you an idea, 282 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: if Vegas has an idea how this is going to go. 283 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: But the Lions three and two against the spread despite 284 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: not having a win and two and zero against the 285 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: spread at home. Those bets are going to come in 286 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: on the Bengals. But I like the underdo here grabbing 287 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: the points. 288 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: Love it. 289 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Texans are visiting the Coults. Killer for the Colt I 290 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: feel so bad right the Cults. The Cults are laying 291 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: nine and a half here at home against the Texans. 292 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: Total is low forty two and a half. What do 293 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: you think? 294 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Colts. The Cults are gonna make 295 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: some noise in this division when all is said and done. 296 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: I remember seeing Dan beginning of the year, like ninety 297 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: five percent of the bets in that AFC South were 298 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: going on the Titans. It was almost like a FATA 299 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: comp play that the Titans are going to win the division. 300 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: I still think the Cults are going to have something 301 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: to say about it. That was a tough, tough loss 302 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: last night. Yeah, they found some things. Jonathan Taylor's over 303 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: under proper receiving yards is twelve and a half. He 304 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: goes right away, goes seventy three yards right to start 305 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: the game. 306 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: I love it. 307 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, they've been Michael Pittman should do some things. 308 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: And I also believe in something I call the law 309 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: of efforts. So the Texans really came out against the Patriots. 310 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: They gave it there all. They almost had that game won. 311 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: Now they have to go on the road against the 312 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: division rival that's going to be angry, that has not 313 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: won a lot of games to start the year, that's 314 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: having a disappointing season. This one reeks to me to 315 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: be a blowout. I understand Davis Mills played well. I 316 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: think they can scheme something for Brandon Cooks. This is 317 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: a cult win, I think comfortably by double digits. I 318 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: know I have to lay a lot of points, but 319 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that here With Indianapolis. 320 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: This is interesting to me, Mike, because of the fact 321 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: that I think there's probably a line of thought out 322 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: there that just said the Colts not only are they 323 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: going to be on a short week, of course, but 324 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: they just got their guts ripped out in like the 325 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: most painful way. Pageant you might be thinking they might mail. 326 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one in four at this point. The 327 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: fact that you're talking about the division is fantastic actually 328 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: just for discussion points. But you think that despite that, 329 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: despite the short week, they are gonna come out here 330 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: and make a statement in conjunction with the fact that 331 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: the Texans probably poured their heart and soul into that 332 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: game against the Patriots and maybe a due for a 333 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a letdown. 334 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 2: Dan, I've seen it before. I think Frank Reich is 335 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: a solid coach. If this was a situation like Jacksonville 336 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: with Urban Meyer, no way. But I think Frank Reich 337 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: is a good coach. They come home, He's going to 338 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: have this team ready. They're not going to mail it in, 339 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: and they've started to unleash Jonathan Taylor. Paris Cambo was 340 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: involved as well. Moley Cox at a couple of receptions, 341 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: I think this is a surprise. I know most people 342 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: will grab the points. To me, I was a little 343 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: surprised that it was high, but then I realized, I 344 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: like the Colts. I feel like they're almost tempting you 345 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: to take the Texans. Yeah, Texans almost beat the Patriots, 346 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: so they can certainly cover ten. I'm gonna go the 347 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: other way. It reminds me of the Washington Buffalo game 348 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: from a couple weeks ago, when everyone was wondering what's 349 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: wrong with Josh Allen. That line was nine and a 350 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: half and then the Bills ended up blowing him out. 351 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: I think the Colts have a big game here on Sunday. 352 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it actually, And I love what you're 353 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: saying because when you do look at the line, you 354 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: do say this is a you have to take the 355 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Texans on this line like that, that's what it's telling. 356 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: And whenever you see something like that, you're like, Okay, 357 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: I probably don't need to be taking the Texans. And 358 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: again with the Colts, even with all of that, there 359 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: are so many positives that you could have taken away. 360 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Rodrigo Blanket Ship got hurt in the game 361 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: or early on in the game. If he's not hurt, 362 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: they win that game. They suffered a massive amount of 363 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: injuries just as that game went on on defense and 364 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Maybe they hold the ford of that, 365 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: so it's not as if it was a pure choke 366 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: job like they obviously could have. And Carson Wentz like 367 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: looked fully healthy. Jonathan Taylor is running extremely well. Now 368 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm starting to buy into this and it's making me 369 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: a little annoyed. So let's get to the next game, 370 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: which is the Chiefs visiting Washington. The Chiefs are laying 371 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: seven on the road. The total fifty five and a half, 372 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: by the way, just came across the wire as we 373 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: were recording this that Clyde Edwards Hilaire. We knew he 374 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: was going to be out, but he's officially been placed 375 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: on injured reserve, so he's gonna be out for at 376 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: least three weeks. God Chiefs saying. 377 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: Seven desperate time for Kansas City. Here. They are in 378 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: last place in the AFC West. Go figure that after 379 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: five weeks they are one in four against the spread. 380 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Chiefs in a desperation situation. Look, Washington, 381 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: I think could be a lot better than their two 382 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: and three record if they had a different quarterback. Taylor 383 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: Heineke is fine. He's a backup. He's doing what he can, 384 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: but he is sort of the issue here. One of 385 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: the most disappointing units, I would say in the NFL 386 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: has been Washington's defense. I expected a very big performance 387 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: against the Saints. That it was a limited Saints team, 388 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: Winston conservative game plan, coming off a loss to the Giants, 389 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: I expected them to play well. I was disappointed. They're 390 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: going to give up deep passes and bombs to the Saints. 391 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: What's gonna happen with the Chiefs. They need to win 392 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: in the worst way. I would like it if this 393 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: number can get under that seven, stays under that seven, 394 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: because of course it's a great teaser play. You can 395 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: argue teasing this with the Bucks. Both of those games down. 396 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: But let's keep in mind here before we bury the 397 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: Chiefs or think that maybe they're a notch below their 398 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: slate of opponents that have started this year. They started 399 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: with the Browns, who are legitimate contender, at home, and 400 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: they won that game. They played at the Ravens, another 401 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: AFC contender, and lost by one. The Chargers, another really 402 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: solid team and a contender for the Super Bowl, lost 403 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: by six. Then they hung forty two on Philly, and 404 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: then they lost to Buffalo, who may be the best 405 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: team in the NFL right now. I think this is 406 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: a King of the Little People situation with the Chiefs. 407 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: I think they go in here and cover it. I 408 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: do not see how Washington can generate enough offense and look, 409 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: if their defense was going to show up and change 410 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: the script, they would have done it against a limited 411 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Saints team. I don't like this game at all. I 412 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: think the Chiefs role let me. 413 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: Ask you something. 414 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: You've got a Chiefs offense that is almost certainly going 415 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: to come out and just go ape right, like that's 416 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: just they know they have to because their defense is terrible. 417 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: But their defense is terrible. The total is an astronomical 418 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: fifty five and a half. Is that a stay away 419 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: for you? And do you expect it to probably hang 420 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: around there for most of the week. 421 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: I think it'll hang around And I don't like going 422 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: over high numbers. But Washington's defense twenty eighth and DVA 423 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 2: overall ninth against the run, twenty ninth against the pass. 424 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: So here we have a Washington defense that struggles against 425 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: the pass against the desperate Patrick Mahomes led team, and 426 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: the Chiefs defense, which is the worst for football outsiders 427 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: in DVA. I don't see the contrarian play here. I 428 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: don't see how Washington's defense, who could not stop the 429 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: Bills and could not stop the Saints, is now going 430 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: to stop the Chiefs. So they're going to have to 431 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: score Antonio Gibson's explosive, so is Terry McCain. So I 432 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: lean to the over there. If I'm gonna have to 433 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: make a pick. 434 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: So do I, which makes me feel disgusting because I 435 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: don't ever like to go into these high numbers. But 436 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: give me, I don't care what it is at this 437 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: point because you're right, you got and you mentioned it. 438 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: Mike Washington's defense. 439 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: Probably like I mean, I know people talk about it 440 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: generally speaking, and I deal with it from a fantasy perspective, 441 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: but probably like the most disappointing I mean overall unit, 442 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 1: just that there is, like this was supposed to be 443 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: like a top unit right now, a unit that you 444 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: faded generally speaking when you were betting against them and 445 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: in fantasy, and it is neither. You pick on them 446 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: right now. Skim's gonna be fun to watch. I think 447 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a lot of fireworks. And I agree 448 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: with you if I have to go to over fifty 449 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: five and a half, I've never bet a spread over 450 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: that high, Like I just I can't. Like it's very 451 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: difficult for me, but I would if I were somebody 452 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: other than me. Chargers are visiting the Ravens now who 453 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: Chargers are getting three in this game in the totals fifty. 454 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: One and a half. Real interesting one here? What do 455 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 3: you think? Like? 456 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: I think the Browns brought a different level of physicality 457 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: and the overall rushing attack against the Chargers. I think 458 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: Brandon Staley's going to adjust to that. I like the 459 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 2: Chargers here going on the road. Ravens had a big comeback. 460 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: They have a short week. This Charger team is very, 461 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: very strong. I know the Ravens are gonna pound the ball, 462 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: and if you look on the surface, you're gonna say, well, 463 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: the Browns just ran all over the Chargers. What are 464 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: the Ravens gonna do? I think their secondary can limit 465 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: Marquise Brown. I think that Staley will learn from the 466 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: Browns game, which were they were lucky to escape, and 467 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: I think they will come out here and continue. The 468 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 2: Ravens defense does have trouble with big plays. This Chargers 469 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: offense is at a different level. We saw what happened 470 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: with Jonathan Taylor with pass catching running backs and now 471 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: here comes Austin Eckler. I like the Chargers, even though 472 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: you would look on the surface and say the Browns 473 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: just put all those numbers up. Ravens will do better 474 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: not coming off a short week. I like the Chargers 475 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: to went now right, and I would love the points 476 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: there as well. 477 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take them on the money line. 478 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: For sure, because I do think the Chargers are actually 479 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: gonna win this game, and again, it has all the 480 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: makings of a put aside the public sort of thing. 481 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens have to be completely after that win, 482 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: like win great, like fantastic, but you've got to be 483 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: absolutely drained after that win. And the raven like, their 484 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: defense is nothing really that you need to be afraid 485 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: of anymore. And even if it were, the Chargers are 486 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: obviously a strong enough unit that they can attack anyone. 487 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: I worry a little bit about how vulnerable the Chargers 488 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: are on the ground, But again, the Ravens are sort 489 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: of more like they're putting their running backs on the 490 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: block at this point, like in real life, they're just like, 491 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: you know whatever, we're gonna have Lamar throw the ball 492 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: or have Lamar run. 493 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 494 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: Do you think, by the way that this ends at three? 495 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: Like I honestly I expected it to be within a 496 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: field goal. And maybe it's because the fact that Ravens won, 497 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, in such a dramatic fashion last night, But 498 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: I expected this to be within a field goal. So 499 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna move either way? Or do 500 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: you think it basically sits here at three. 501 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I expect the money to come in on the 502 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: Ravens because betters tend to have that recency bias, you know, 503 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: you just it's vividness to you. You saw it last 504 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: night Lamar Jackson and Scott Fishbell had like sixty four points. 505 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: He broke the whole thing. So I expect that the 506 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: Ravens will get money and the Ravens will get bets. 507 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be surprised if we see Vegas. As 508 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: we said, adjust that line and sort of make it lower. 509 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: The Chargers are very live. They have no trouble going 510 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: on the road. Everyone talks about the home field advantage, 511 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: which may be an oxymoron, but I like this team. 512 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: They're very solid, they're very well coached, and they have 513 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 2: no problem with big play. Who's hotter than Mike Williams 514 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: right now as a wide wide receiver two in fantasy. 515 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: And we're forgetting about Keenan Allen, who will dominate that 516 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: intermediate short to intermediate area against this Ravens team. I 517 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: expect both defenses to play well, go towards the under, 518 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: but I will grab the points with the Chargers. Like 519 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: you said, money line is a great bet yep. 520 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: Packers are visiting the Bears. The Packers are laying four 521 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: and a half total forty five. 522 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: What do you think? 523 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: Packers have won nine of the last ten against Chicago. 524 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: Chicago is thirty first in pass offense DVOWA. They really 525 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: struggle justin fields hyper extended. D may be a little 526 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: banged up. I expect him to play here come the 527 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 2: Bears without David Montgomery with a limited justin fields, the 528 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: Packers defense should play very well. And what I think 529 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: dan is without Vic Fangio. When they've played four games 530 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 2: here Packers and Bears. Without Fangio as a defensive coordinator, 531 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: Green Bay is four and zero and the last three 532 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: games besides the opener in twenty nineteen, they have won 533 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: by an average of seventeen and a half points while 534 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: averaging themselves thirty eight points. I don't think the Bears 535 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: was a nice road win Khalil Mack revenge game against 536 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: the Raiders that all the chaos going on. I don't 537 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: think they changed the script here with justin fields. Great 538 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: staff from JJ Zacharison on FanDuel today. DeVante Adams has 539 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: forty five targets in the last three weeks. The entire 540 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: Bears team has fifty seven targets. Packers are four and 541 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: one against the spread. I think they'll contain fields here. 542 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: I also love the under. The Bears are four and 543 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: one to the under. Yeah, Green Bay plays at a 544 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: very slow pace. This reeks to me to be like 545 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: sort of a Browns Bears game from a couple weeks ago. 546 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: Packers cover under as well with the total. 547 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 3: I agree. 548 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: I bet both now and I probably will usually Mike, 549 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: I do it during the podcast. That's when I said 550 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: something that I like, I'm gonna wait out of just 551 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: sheer respect for you. 552 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: I completely. 553 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: I mean the Bears, they you know what I think, 554 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: justin fields. Unless I'm either make some numbers. It might 555 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: be seventeen twenty seventeen or twenty seventeen twenty either way 556 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: for pass attempts in his three starts right now, they 557 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: have no interest in passing the ball. And he's banged up. 558 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, he is going to play. I agree 559 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: with the hyper extension, but he's banged up. The receiver's 560 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: doing nothing. You know, again, from a fantasy standpoint, everybody 561 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: get really excited about Darnell Mooney. I didn't get it 562 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: because there's just I understand that when Fields does throw, 563 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: he pushes the ball down the field, but he doesn't 564 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: want to throw. 565 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: That's just what it is. That's not how they want 566 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: to run their offense. They want to rely on their defense. 567 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: Which is good, not great though, because you can't exploit 568 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: that secondary pretty easily that Monta Adams can exploit any secondary, 569 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: but especially you know in the slot. 570 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: They can do some things there. 571 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: But the Packers as well, coming off you know, a 572 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: tough game against the Bengals, they're not that explosive anymore 573 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: offensively or anything like that. So I agree with you 574 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: that I lean the under and I will take the points. 575 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to run to bed at 576 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: four and a half, Like the move is not going 577 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: to be someplace that I think is going to put 578 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: you off it either way, right, it's not going to 579 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: get to seven, it's not going to get to three. 580 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: So I think you're fine to wait if you want. 581 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: But I'm in total agreement with you on the sides. 582 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: On both the Bears are going to have to force turnovers, 583 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: and Rodgers is just the king. He milks that clock 584 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: to the very end. You have Damian Williams and Khalil 585 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: Herbert who are trying to do a decent job in 586 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: the backfield. But it's not the same as having Montgomery 587 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: Alan Robinson mi Ia right now. There's no chemistry with 588 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: him and fields. It just seems like they would have 589 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: to force a lot of turnovers and I don't see 590 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: that happening with an intra division game here where Rodgers 591 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: are very used to the Chicago defense. 592 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: I think it's got to be something flugy realistically for 593 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: the Bears to be able to win this game or 594 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: really keep it that close. 595 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: So I'm in total agreeing with you. 596 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: And again, it's not a game in my opinion that 597 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: you have to run out to do something now, because 598 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't expect. 599 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: It to move all that much. I think the numbers are. 600 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: Fine, but I'm definitely with you on both the side 601 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: and the total. The Rams are visiting the Giants, the 602 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: Rams are laying ten and a half and the totals 603 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: forty seven and a half. Obviously, we have questions about 604 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: here about the Giants as to who's going to start 605 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: at quarterback, which receivers are going to be healthy. You've 606 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: obviously already got Saquon Barkley out we know Kenny Galladay 607 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: is out, So what do you do here with the 608 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: line that's over ten points? 609 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 3: Ten and a half here at forty seven and a half. 610 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: Really tough one for me. Dan, It's to stay away. 611 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: If I had to lean, I would lean towards taking 612 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: the points at home. This Giant team plays hard. Daniel 613 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: Jones can do some things as a mobile quarterback that 614 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: can throw off the defense. The Rams are just playing 615 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: at a different level though. Stafford and that offense are clicking. 616 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 2: They struggled last week, but they found a way to 617 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: get a win on the road Cooper Cup. There's a 618 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: lot of receiving options, so I think the Rams win. 619 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: I have no interest in taking the Giants on a 620 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: deep money line or something. It's just that number is 621 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: right there. If that number was seven, I would like 622 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: it eight even, but ten is an awful lot. Jones 623 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: can do a backdoor cover lead them down there in 624 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: garbage time. I don't want any part of that. Kadarius 625 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: Tony looks fantastic, So it's a stay away from me. 626 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 2: The line is a really good one set here by Vegas. 627 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: It's too many question marks for me there. 628 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, like there is just there's 629 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: no path that I see, absent multiple major injuries for 630 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: the Giants to be able to win this game. But 631 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: it's ten and a half, Like I have no interest 632 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: in taking the Giants like, there's just no chance. There 633 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: are no circumstances under WHI I would feel comfortable regardless 634 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: of the spread. But it's just too much for me 635 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: to go. Really interesting game here, a game that everybody's 636 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna be watching. The Cardinals are visiting the Browns. The 637 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Browns home favorites two and a half, the total fifty 638 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: and a half. What do you think, Mike, I. 639 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 2: Love the Browns. I think the Browns have a style 640 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: that's very unique in today's NFL. Everyone's doing the short, 641 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: quick passing attack. They are gonna pound that ball, They're 642 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 2: gonna go strong, and then Baker Mayfield's going to make 643 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: enough place to win the game. The Arizona's defense is 644 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: legit fourth overall in DVOA, but thirteenth in run defense. 645 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: That's bad against the Browns, who when they come home, 646 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: they are going to be an issue. They just pound 647 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: that ball down your throat. Second in volume to the 648 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: Saints as well. Kyler Murray was much less effective last 649 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: year when he got injured, and what was interesting is 650 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: he had one rushing yard last week. The key to 651 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: this game, I think is the health status of center 652 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: Rodney Hudson, who came over from the Raiders. He's done 653 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: a fantastic job for the Cardinals. When he came out 654 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: of that game, Bosa came in hit Kyler Murray. You 655 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: saw him on the on the bench moving his arm 656 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: trying to get it loose. That to me means they're 657 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: going to have a conservative offensive game plan, which is 658 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 2: what happened last year. If you look at his box 659 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: scores once he had a little bit of an injury, 660 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: his rushes went down nineteen yards, thirty one yards, fifty yards. 661 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: When he's rushing a lot is when their offense is clicking. 662 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield rumors about his shoulder, I think that was 663 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski trying to do some some questionable things there 664 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: to throw us off because he looked fine, especially on 665 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: the Hail Mary. Bets are about fifty to fifty, but 666 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: the heavy money is on the Browns. Sign of a 667 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: sharp play. I really like the Browns here. 668 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: I was surprised, I guess a little bit. I mean, 669 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: there's a three out there at Fandle by the way, 670 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: which is fine. I mean that no, I get it, 671 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: but that's I was surprised a little bit about it. 672 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: I thought that it would be maybe you pick him, 673 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, because I think the I guess, you know, the. 674 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: Public is whatever. 675 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: I thought the public would be all over the Cardinals 676 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: if I've no Cardinals Kyler Murray. 677 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 3: We love it, so exciting, so explosive getting points. 678 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: But I agree with you. The Browns are great. I 679 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: mean they should have won that game against the Chargers. 680 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: They are extraordinarily well coached. They are Their defense is 681 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: very regardless of all the points they gave up last week, 682 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: their defense is highly above average. 683 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: Mayfield, you're right again. 684 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: We talked to doctor David Chow, who's on our fantasy 685 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: podcast every Friday, and he said, this is nothing like. 686 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: The injury to Mayfield is nothing like. It's his left shoulder. 687 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: It's a harness, totally fine, yet a bad day. It 688 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: wasn't really the shoulder, and he looked fantastic here against it. 689 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 3: I am in agreeing with you. 690 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: I wish Baker and Odell Beckham Junior could get on 691 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: the same page a little bit. But it's it's kind 692 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: of irrelevant really really for their offense. They're playing extremely well, 693 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: So go ahead. 694 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a concern, and I'm looking for negative regression here. 695 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the Cardinal should have lost to the Vikings, 696 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: and then if Jimmy Garoppolo plays that game instead of 697 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: Trey Lance against the Niners, they probably lose at home there. 698 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: So there's two games at home. They probably had a 699 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: path to having two losses. I think we have the 700 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: regression here. The Browns are good folks. They are legitimate 701 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender, and they have a style with Chubb 702 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: and Hunt that no one else has. 703 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 704 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: No, they're a really, really good team and they're fun 705 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: to watch. So I'm with you on that. The Cowboys 706 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: now are visiting New England. They are laying four points. 707 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: And the total is fifty and a half. 708 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: What do you think give me the points? With Belichick, 709 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: I said the same thing when they ended up playing 710 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay. The book said that was the game they 711 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: needed the absolute most besides like a Super Bowl where 712 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: all the money is being bet. Right now, the Patriots 713 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: back against the wall, coming off a game that they 714 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: almost lost to the Texans. Belichick scheme over the Cowboys. 715 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: Cowboys have been fantastic and they probably should be undefeated 716 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: except for that opening game against Tampa Bay. But you're 717 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: gonna give me points of Bill Belichick at home, I 718 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: will grab them. I think the Pats can find a 719 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: way here to maybe win the game. You know they're 720 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: going to shut down the top option Amari Cooper was 721 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: injured at the end of that game last week, so 722 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 2: we don't know how that's going to go. You know 723 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: their run defense will be solid. I like the underheat 724 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: and I love the points of Belichick. It worked well 725 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: for me against Tampa Bay. I'm going back to it 726 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: in Foxborough. 727 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I don't know how I feel about the spread. 728 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't want the Cowboys, I can tell you that, 729 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: but I love the under. I love the under at 730 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: fifty and a half for sure. I would take it 731 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: now because wherever it's going to go. But this strikes 732 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: me as a game that's going to see way fewer 733 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: points than anybody expects. 734 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 3: I think. 735 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, the public loves the Cowboys, that love their offense, 736 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: but you're right, they've got some issues right now. You 737 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: know Belichick is going to have a scheme that's going 738 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: to work and again the New England offense like it. 739 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: They don't try to be explosive. They don't want to 740 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 1: be explosive. They want to kind of control everything. Make 741 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: it that way. 742 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: I love the under at fifty and a half. I 743 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: was surprise that was that high. 744 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Raiders. Some turmoil with the Raiders 745 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: visiting the Broncos. The Broncos are laying three and a half. 746 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: The totals forty four. 747 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: What do you think if you look at this the 748 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: Denver Denver Raider game had usually gone the last couple 749 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: of years for the home team. The Raiders had a 750 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: run there where they were upsetting teams on the road. Again, 751 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to trust the better coach. I'm going to 752 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: trust the one that's prepared. Vic Fangio Courtland Sutton into 753 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: that game last week against the Steelers. He was a 754 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: little banged up. I wasn't sure. He looked fine. I 755 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: think he gets this defense rolling. This is a Raiders 756 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: team that's in turmoil. If you want to say there's 757 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: some benefit emotionally from firing Gruden, I don't think so. 758 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: I think they were doing very well. The situation happened. 759 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: He had to be let go. I understand that, but 760 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: it's not the win one sort of for the new coach, 761 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: which could happen in Jacksonville because that's drawn out. I 762 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: just think the Broncos are better prepared. Teddy Bridgewater against 763 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: the spread historically has been fantastic, especially at home. Denver 764 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: has the home field advantage. I'm rolling with the Broncos 765 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: here against the Raider team that right now is in 766 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: a little bit of chaos. 767 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I look for any reason, especially relatively early in 768 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: the season. I know it's not real early, but to 769 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: back the Broncos at home early in the season, four 770 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: teams have fully gotten their conditioning all set and everything 771 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: like that, I agree with you. I like the Broncos 772 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: here in a game that they fought hard. I did 773 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: think the Steelers were gonna win that game last week. 774 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: I did have them. But I think that this is 775 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: a game again. 776 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: You're right that this is a bounce back sort of 777 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: spot for them now after winning the three and then 778 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: losing a couple, I think they bounced back here and again. 779 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: The Raiders right now are just in such this array, 780 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: and by the way, their offense does not look anything 781 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: like it looked early on in the season. 782 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: I mean, Derek. 783 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: Carr has looked sort of skittish a little bit in 784 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: the pocket and everything like that. So I agree with 785 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: you here. I like the Broncos. Let's go to the 786 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks visiting the Steelers. 787 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: Probably not the. 788 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: Game that the NFL really envisioned it would be at 789 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: this point when they made that Sunday Night Football. But 790 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers are laying four and a half and the 791 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: total is forty two and a half. 792 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: I grabbed it right away when it was three, and 793 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: now it's climbed. I'm all over Pittsburgh. I think they 794 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: turned a corner. Look if this was Russell Wilson, this 795 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: is a spot that the Seahawks could step up. I 796 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: think they turned a corner. Juju is out, I understand that. 797 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: I think it streamlines the receiving options. I think pat 798 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: Freyermuth is gonna have a big game here, and Najay 799 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: Harris has just been clicking. That was a good Denver 800 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: run defense, yes, and he ended up scorching them last week. 801 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: I think at prime time at home, Geno Smith, I'm sorry, 802 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: I just don't see Gino coming in. I don't think 803 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: the Seahawks Dan can win. So if that's the case. 804 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: Am I going to debate over four points or three points? 805 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: I am not. I think the Steelers are starting to 806 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: get it going. You know, their run defense is going 807 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: to be solid, which means they'll probably have a conservative 808 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: game plan with Gino here that's not going to work. 809 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: They could hit a couple deep shots, but Gino's also 810 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: a radic got picked off to end the game at 811 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: the end against the Rams. I can't take Gino on 812 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: the road. Give me the Steelers who are trending in 813 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: the right direction now primetime at home with a solid 814 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: defense that should stifle the Seahawks rushing attack. 815 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was This really was something where it did 816 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: feel like I don't want to call it a get 817 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: right game because the Steelers have plenty of issues, but 818 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: the fact that Nagie Harris was able to succeed and 819 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: looks so good running the ball against at Denver defens 820 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: made me feel a little more just excited about him 821 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: and the team generally, because the offensive line has had 822 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: so many issues. You're right, you do is out for 823 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: the season pretty much. I don't think it matters. He 824 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: wasn't doing much anyway as long as Chase Claypole and 825 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: Deante Johnson are healthy, and again, Pat Fryer, I would 826 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: love it because we'd love to see the breakout happen. 827 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: And for the Seahawks, look kudos to Gino who stepped 828 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: in and looked really good. Step again, but I think 829 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 1: right now, you're going to give a team Steelers at 830 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: home on a primetime game a week to prepare for 831 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: Gino Smith. They're not going to be able to run 832 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: the ball they've got obviously the pass catchers and the 833 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: Steelers are vulnerable through the year. But I think again, 834 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: with Gino there, I agree with you. I will take 835 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: it at four and a half right now. It's at 836 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: five at my book. But again, I'm not going to 837 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: qubble necessarily with that at that but kudos to you 838 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: for grabbing it. At three Monday night football, last game 839 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: of the week, the Bills are visiting the Titans. The 840 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: Bills are laying five and a half and the total 841 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 1: is fifty four. 842 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: What do you think? 843 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a little bit of letdown here. 844 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: I like Tennessee at home getting those points, so that 845 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: five to five and a half number always sets bells 846 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: off in my head because it's sort of a no 847 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: man's land there. The Bills look great. They beat the Chiefs. 848 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: They struggled last year they came into Tennessee. I think 849 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: it was a Monday night or Sunday night game, or 850 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: maybe it was postponed. There was a postponeing because of 851 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: a COVID issue, and they really struggled. I think the 852 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: Titans defense has been rough this year, but I do 853 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 2: think with Derrick Henry, they have the type of script 854 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: that can frustrate the Bills. I think the Titans keep 855 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: this game close. I think Mike Vrabel has Tennessee ready. 856 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: Five is a lot of points. I expect the Bets 857 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: to pour in on Buffalo here, but with aj Brown 858 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: looking a little bit better, maybe Julio Jones is back. 859 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill's a mobile quarterback and you have the big 860 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: dog back there running the ball into that Bills line. 861 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 2: They just need a couple turnovers. Five as a frisky number, 862 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it with the underdog Titans. 863 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: Yet, despite the fact that the Titans obviously are coming 864 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: off a nice win here, there is a lot of 865 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: negativity around the team because they just don't look you know. 866 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: It's basically a you've got Derek Henry and nothing else, 867 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: and Ryan Tannehill hasn't really been gone because they haven't 868 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: had the wide receivers and even when AJ Brown has 869 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: been healthy, he hasn't quote unquote produced from you know, 870 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: at least a fantasy standpoint or whatever. 871 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 3: But I agree with you. 872 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: I think this is a great spot for the Titans 873 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: with the Bills coming off that you know, enormous win 874 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: right now, and they're a great team. Okay, their defense 875 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: is played better than I expected to see them necessarily, 876 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: but there is no defense right now that can stop 877 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and I think hopefully Julio Jones. Again, this 878 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: is the third week I think for Julio Jones. He 879 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: wasn't placed on injured reserve. That means that they probably 880 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: expected him to be able to return at this point, 881 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: and if they have him, then it really is a 882 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: difference maker. 883 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: But I agree with you. Again, it's a weird number. 884 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: And again, you know, I talk about this with Matt 885 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: Parult a lot, like the favorites at five and a 886 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: half always a little weird. 887 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: He always thinks that like the four and. 888 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: A half to five and a half is Vegas, basically 889 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: being like, oh, we don't really know, let's just see 890 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: it out, yes, right, but I like the Titans in 891 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: this spot as well, and again I do generally favor 892 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: the Titans overall. 893 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: All right, this was great. 894 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: I appreciate you rolling with the punches, man, I know 895 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: I'd originally wanted to do this on Monday. I appreciate 896 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: you being able to squeeze us in here and to 897 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: remind everybody where they can find more of you and 898 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: your work. 899 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 2: You can follow me on Twitter at Randel Ran. I 900 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: have a work up for the Action Network working on 901 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: college basketball previews. Also last word on NFL. I do 902 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: some work for betting pros. Just all over the place, 903 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: just working away here, loving the NFL. It's a great 904 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: time of year, Dan. I appreciate you, myke. 905 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: Youar superstar. I'm really glad we were finally able to talk. 906 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 1: I look forward to doing it again soon. In the meantime, 907 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: everybody enjoyed the rest of your week. Joe will be 908 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: back with the College Football Podcast with Bagman. I'll be 909 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: back on Thursday with our best bets. I will talk 910 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: to you then,