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Happy Birthday, America. 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to two fifty Roninanian, the Car Doctor at your service. 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: You know, after nearly fifty years of fixing cars, I 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: learned and I believe, and this will kind of surprise people. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: The most valuable tool I own to repair a car 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: isn't my scan tool. It isn't my labscopes. It isn't 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: my smoke machine, my toolbox, the lift. Heck, it isn't 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: even the service bay. It's the front counter, it's the 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: waiting room. It's the chairs that sit in front of me. 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: And I've learned this since Jeez, I've been working on 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: car since Jimmy Carter was in the White House. Because 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: the best tool in my shop is a chair. Before 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: I plug in a vehicle, before I open the hood, 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 1: before I even write the repair order, I want to listen. 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: I want you to sit down and talk to me. 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: I want to hear what you have to say. And 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: it may sound very old fashioned, because every car in 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: the world today has twenty or thirty computers and enough 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: software to rival your home computer. And here's the thing. 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Cars don't lie, and people usually don't either. They just 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: remember different parts of the story. And that's what happened 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: this past week at the shop. A husband and wife 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: came into the shop together with a late model SUV. 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Now you ever check in a husband and a wife together, 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: and you have to listen to both of them. And 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm not picking on husbands and wives, and I'm not 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: trying to make this about marriage, but it's interesting two 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: people live together, and they experienced the same things side 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: by side, and yet they tell the story a different way. 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: They'd been to several repair shops. The husband looked exhausted, 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: the wife looked well. She had that look on her 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: face that said, I've had enough. He walked up to 47 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: the counter carrying a folder like an inch thick, and 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: there were repair invoices inside of it. Fuel pump, battery, throttle, body, 49 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: tune up. Even one invoice even had a note that 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: read no problem found. Thousands of dollars had been spent 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: over time, the vehicles still stall. There was no warning lights, 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: there was noes, there was no pattern anyone could find. 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: Some of the parts had been reinstalled, some of the 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: parts had been swapped around, some of the parts had 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: been changed multiple times. And I started to ask a question, 56 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: but before I could, the husband said to me, Ron, 57 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now. If you can't 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: figure this out, I understand. And that bothered me. It 59 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: caught my attention not because he doubted me, but because 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: somewhere along the way he stopped believing the car could 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: be fixed. He lost confidence in the process. And that 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: bothers me, not just in the vehicle, but in the 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: repair process itself. So I didn't grab the keys, I 64 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: didn't write up the order. I just pointed to two chairs. 65 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: There's three in the front. I pointed to the two 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: chairs and I asked them both to sit down, and 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: I said, tell me everything. The husband started first. You know, 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: I often think about I used to go to breakfast 69 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: with my friend Richie, who's gone gosh fifteen years now. 70 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: And I'd spend every Friday morning with Richie. We'd have 71 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: coffee and eggs at the local get together, and my 72 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: wife would ask me at night. I said, how's Richie? 73 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: He's great? How's his wife she's good? How's his kids good? 74 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: What did you guys talk about? I don't know what? 75 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Did he say? Nothing? And you know, it was just 76 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: men have a very unique way I've learned of describing things. 77 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: We're noncommittal. We kind of grunted and grown a lot 78 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: and where one word answers, whereas the wife is more descriptive. 79 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: And I asked him, I said, when does it stole? 80 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: He said, I don't know, hot or cold, I don't know, 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: highway or city. I don't know. Then the wife started 82 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: to talk, which I was grateful for at that point, 83 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: she said, well, no, she goes and she looked at 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: him and smiled and said, no, dear, it's not like that. 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: And I've been doing this long enough. I leaned back 86 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: and I decided to let them talk for a while. 87 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: And you have to do that, because that's one of 88 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: the things as an older technician it's a hard thing 89 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: for a young technician to do, I think, is to 90 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: let people talk. People need time, They need to process this. 91 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: They need to tell you about the vacation they were on. 92 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: They need to tell you where they bought the car. 93 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: You know what, I start running the diagnostic clock whether 94 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: we're sitting in the waiting room or whether we're working 95 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: on the car out on the road. But either way, 96 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: somewhere in all those words that they tell you is 97 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the clue. The husband kept talking about all the money 98 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: they spent, the wife kept talking about what the car 99 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: actually did. And it's two very, very different conversations. And 100 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: it's something you've got to be aware of. And I 101 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: noticed as they went back and forth, the husband kept 102 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: describing the problem. He used words like always and every time, 103 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: but the wife would describe it. She'd say things, well, 104 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: not exactly. It seems like I think, and those words 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: matter because he said something almost in passing. She said, 106 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's ever happened coming home. 107 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: And I looked up and I said, what do you 108 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: mean it doesn't happen coming home? Why doesn't it happen? 109 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, if you go down to a stop sign 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: anywhere in America, shouldn't it stall if that's where it's stalling. 111 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: And the husband looked surprised, and he said, I never 112 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: thought about that. And then she added another little detail. 113 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: She says, I back out of the driveway, I put 114 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: it in drive, and by the time I get to 115 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: the stop sign, it sometimes it just quits. And that 116 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: was interesting because their driveway, they explained to me, was 117 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: fairly steep. She backed down the driveway every morning, shifted 118 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: into the drive started rolling. The first stop sign was 119 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: just a couple hundred feet away. The husband he did 120 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: it different on the days that he drove the car. 121 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: He backed it into the garage, he said, and I 122 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: just pulled straight out and I go in the other 123 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: direction up the hill, same vehicle, same family, just two 124 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: completely different routines. Now, before anybody starts blaming the wife, 125 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: you can't she wasn't doing anything wrong. She was just 126 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: operating the same vehicle under a different set of conditions, 127 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: because I learned in talking to them that they were 128 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: doing two different things with the same vehicle. He went left, 129 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: she went right. He had about a six minute ride 130 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: before he hit the first stop sign, you know, flat 131 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Plaine Hill. Whatever. He just kept going. She took the 132 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: direction that she had a stop sign a couple hundred 133 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: feet away. And that was the answer. Because sometimes, and 134 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: I say this all the time, you can't look for broken. 135 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: You've got to look for different. You got to look 136 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: for what's good. So I asked her one more question. 137 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: I said, tomorrow morning, can you drive exactly the way 138 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: you you normally drive? I said, just come down to 139 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: the shop. She said sure. She came into the shop. 140 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: The next morning, we went for a ride, same routine, 141 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: same stop sign a couple hundred feet away, all right. 142 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: I made her duplicate the condition, and the engine stumbled. 143 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: It didn't set a code, it didn't turn on the light. 144 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: It just stumbled. It hesitated long enough to make you 145 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: wonder if it was going to die. Back in the 146 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: shop after she left it, I hooked up a scan tool. 147 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: Not because I expected it to tell me the answer, 148 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: because I didn't because I knew exactly when to watch it. 149 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: I knew what I was trying to duplicate. I watched 150 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: the way she stepped on the gas pedal, and I 151 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: was able to track down looking at the way it 152 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: was working, watching the sweep rate of the throttle angle, 153 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: and watching some of the other factors fuel trim and 154 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: some of the other things. The throttle wasn't really moving smoothly. 155 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: Now this was it had gone back to the original 156 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: throttle because after the throttle body had been replaced, that 157 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: shop replaced the original throttle body back in, so I 158 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: was still working with the original throttle body. What happened, 159 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't enough to set a code. It wasn't enough 160 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: to cause a light. It was just enough that between 161 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: all the parts that were changed. My suspicion is but 162 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: in reality, when I took the throttle body off to 163 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: clean it and I looked behind it, it had a 164 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: really good carbon ridge that you could see. The throttle 165 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: body cleaning had been done poorly, and they just they 166 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: cut like seventy percent of it. But there was this 167 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: one corner off to the side where the bushing is 168 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: where the shaft comes through, where there was still a 169 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: good bit of carbon build up. I cleaned the throttle body. 170 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: And then I did something that I didn't see anywhere 171 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: on any of the invoices. I did a throttle body relearn. 172 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: I did a real throttle body releader as per the book, 173 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: looked it up in all data went through the procedure. 174 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: While data laid it out for me on this particular car, 175 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: you have to do this. You have to do this. 176 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: You have to do this. Gave him back the car 177 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, no charge. Drive the car. 178 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: Come back in a week. They came back Thursday morning. 179 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: You know what, the car's fixed. What'd you do? And 180 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: I told him. I sat them down and I listened 181 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: to them and they were shocked. They said, you know, 182 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: nobody's ever done that. And I said, well, patience is 183 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: part of the game. Patience is an important part of it, 184 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: you know. It's what I always say. It's not how 185 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: many parts do you need to fix the cards? How 186 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: many parts can you avoid putting in to repair the vehicle? 187 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: Mary told me that. Mary taught me this week the 188 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: value of listening, the importance of listening. And I tell 189 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: you this because sometimes you just gotta let them talk. 190 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: You gotta let them finish, you gotta let them have 191 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: their say, because sometimes the answer is in what they 192 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: say and how they say it. It's just that important. 193 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: More often than not, people don't realize it. Repairing a 194 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: car starts with a conversation, and sometimes I find the 195 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: answer is sitting right across from me in a chair 196 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: while I'm standing at the counter. I'm ronning any in 197 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: the car doctor, and together we're going to fix all 198 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: all the cars you call me about today. I'm just 199 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: getting warmed up. Let's open the garage doors right after this. 200 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. Speaking of ron By the way, today 201 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: is T shirt Day. We're giving away our two hundred 202 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary, America's birthday, the forest Power to Horsepower 203 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: t shirt. So when we're done with the call, everybody 204 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: calling in gets a T shirt today both hours. So 205 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: when we're done with the calls today and we're done 206 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: with your call today, make sure you give Tom your information, name, address, 207 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: t shirt size. Please, we have to go ahold of 208 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: Donald from I think Louisiana Lyst Week. You forgot to 209 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: give us his T shirt size and we can't guess. So, Donald, 210 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: if you're out there, if you can't call in, we're 211 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: going to call you after the show today and find 212 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: that out. But today's T shirt day. We're up celebrating 213 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: America here on the fourth of July. Bill in East Tennessee. 214 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: How are you, Bill? What's going on? 215 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: Couldn't be better. I'm sitting on the side of a 216 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: crystal clear river flowing out of the mountains with my 217 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: wife eating chicken salad sandwiches, enjoying our freedom. 218 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: Brother, that sounds wonderful. You got that, Ran. We need 219 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: to appreciate our freedom in this crazy world of ours. 220 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: So what can I do for you today? Sir? 221 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: Do you want to hear the backstory on my truck 222 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: or do you want to jump right into it? 223 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: Well, I don't give me, give me, give me the first minute, 224 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: just the highlights. 225 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: Just bought the truck brand new. It's one f two 226 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: fifty seven point three diesel. I had it for three 227 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen thousand miles. 228 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: My wife drove it, my. 229 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: Kid grew up in the back seat in it, you know, 230 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: in the car seat. That's why I attribute Hurst Marts too. Anyhow, 231 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: I use it hunting and fishing on the weekends. I 232 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: decided to start my own business back in twenty sixteen. 233 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: I used the truck to pull a bunch of logs 234 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: that I cut up on my sawmill to make my 235 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 3: business on the side of the river over here, and 236 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: dubn't truck means so much to me. And I'm going 237 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: to be very soon and pulling a ten thousand pound 238 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: trailerable house boat. 239 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: That's the vehicle. Love, that's the vehicle to do it with. 240 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell you. 241 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: I know, I know. And I've also I like the Godzilla. 242 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: The new Godzilla is in all, I'm just going to 243 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: be traveling to different lakes in East Tennessee and spending. 244 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: Two or three nights. 245 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 3: But I love my old truck and it's got a 246 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: lot of memories in it, and I'd love. 247 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: To get that fixed up. 248 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: But it's been sitting for a year, maybe longer. I 249 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: drove it there to my house and it's been sitting there. Yeah, 250 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: and all the fuels drained out of the fuel filter 251 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: and you know, can't start it, blah blah blah. And 252 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: I'm wondering, since it sat so long, is that going 253 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: to hurt the seals? And it's never leaked any oil, 254 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: it has the same transmission, It's never given me any problems, 255 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: it's always started. It's been a wonderful truck. But is 256 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: it worth fixing up or just selling it and getting 257 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 3: a new one with a Godzilla motor in it? 258 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: Boy, that's a tough question. Bill. I like the old 259 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: seven three power strokes. I think there's such a strong motor. 260 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: I've seen them go a million miles with proper care. 261 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: So this is really a question also about what does 262 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the truck look like any rot and 263 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,359 Speaker 1: he rust any structural issues it is. It is twenty 264 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: six years old now. And the other factor that comes 265 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: into this is parts availability. As always, you know, we 266 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: can find parts for anything, and we can fix anything. 267 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: It's just how much do you want to put up 268 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: with and what's your downtime like? Now, keep in mind, 269 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: any newer vehicle is going to have three times as 270 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: many computers and modules on it as that older truck, 271 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: and therefore it makes it, you know, just as well, 272 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: if not more complicated to deal with and work on. 273 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: It's more of an electronic diesel than that seven to 274 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: three power stroke. So I think the game changer' here 275 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: and to. You know, the decider is going to be 276 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: who's working on it, the local garage, the dealer. Do 277 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: you have a competent dealer with a good diesel mechanic, 278 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: a good diesel crew. 279 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 3: Oh man, I've got a certified master powerstroke mechanic three 280 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: miles from my house that owns his own shop. 281 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Well, younger guy, you always have to have a doctor 282 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: younger than you. I've learned that. 283 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: You know. 284 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: Remember remember what, Remember what George Burns said that Johnny 285 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Carson sitting in the chair in one of his last interviews, 286 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: and George was smoking his seventeen cigar the day and 287 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Johnny Carson goes, what does your doctor saying? George burn says, 288 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: my doctor is dead, So you know it's it's George 289 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: Burns was like ninety seven at the time. So I've learned. 290 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to You've got to have a 291 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: younger doctor. I kind of like fixing the powerstroke bill. 292 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: You know, you'll you'll you'll spend a bunch of money, 293 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: but at least you know what you got and there's 294 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: nothing that you know. It's it's an emotional thing, right, 295 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna look around that truck and remember when the 296 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: kid was riding around in the back seat. And you know, 297 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: memories in a vehicle can't be purchased. They're made, and 298 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: to throw them away as long as the vehicle meets 299 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: your need, as long as and maybe we should leave 300 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: it up to this as the tiebreaker, you know, get 301 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: it down to your diesel mechanic, let them look it over. 302 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: If it's been sitting any length of time, it's probably 303 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: got to have the fuel system gone through. And if 304 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, maybe put a number on it. By the 305 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: time you overhould a fuel system, if you had to 306 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: pull the motor and reseal it and freshen it up 307 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: a little bit, and if you spend twenty five grand, 308 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a scary number or what I think 309 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: is a scary number on the table if you had 310 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: to put twenty five grand in it. Right, what does 311 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: the body look like? What does the rest of it 312 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: look like? Now, by your own admittance, you're gonna take 313 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: this thing through rough country, right, You're gonna be pulling trees, 314 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna be driving around to different lakes. 315 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: You're gonna be it's already done. It's worked. Like me, 316 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: I'm sixty five you know, and I cut down my 317 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: trains on the property and all the logs to my 318 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: thamba blah blah blah, and then all the eighty eight 319 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: and eight by twelve to the to get it planed 320 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: and everything. So it's got dance on it for me 321 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: accidentally hitting you know, tree beames on the truck. So 322 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: it's got quite a few dents on it. But I'm 323 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: the only thing it's gonna do is pull that house 324 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 3: boat to the lake. 325 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 4: Well, it's the only thing it's gonna do. 326 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: Then maybe it's talked to your mechanic. Let him be 327 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: the typebreaker. Hey, if we overhold a fuel system, if 328 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: the engine leaks a little oil, who cares. It'll keep 329 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: it from rusting. And if it's got a couple of 330 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: dense in it, well it's it sort of looks like 331 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: the owner. You've got a couple of dents in it, 332 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: and you've got a couple of dents in you. The 333 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: truck's got a couple of dents in it, and maybe 334 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: you guys will match. I say, let your mechanic look 335 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: at it fuel system wise and make the decision from there. 336 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, build t shirts on its way. I'm running 337 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor We're back right after this 338 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: from city streets to the open road and. 339 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 5: Leave you riding. 340 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: He's hell, Ron, we'll keep you rolling right. 341 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 6: He's a car doctor, doctor, car and fast. 342 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: The guys in the band get a T shirt. I 343 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: wonder which size are they? Say again, Tom, I don't 344 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: hear you. They should. I don't know why they shouldn't. 345 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: Well they should, Okay, Well they have to call in 346 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: with a question, though, So I want to hear something 347 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: more than just singing. By the way, Yeah, did you 348 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: have a good time last night? I had a great 349 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: time last night. Oh good, y'all good. So you went 350 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: to taylor Swiss wedding. Oh yeah, I was there. I 351 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: didn't want to ask you. I didn't want to tell 352 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: you about it because a matter of fact, Taylor Taylor says, Hi, 353 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: Travis says. Travis didn't say, well she is. But and 354 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Travis didn't say much because he knows what a Giants 355 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: fan you are. So he said, he said, you're raut. 356 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: That's why, and that's why you didn't get to go 357 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: to the wedding. Me, on the other hand, I'm a neutral, 358 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: so well, I forgured you were an a lister, so 359 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: you had to go, well, you know, I'm an A lister, 360 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm a B lister, I'm a I'm more whatever you 361 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: want to be. I'm flexible. So but in any event, 362 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: back to shirts. Just remember give Tom your address name 363 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: and the T shirt size. Let's go over to John 364 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: and Oregon. John, what's going on? Twenty Silverado? What did 365 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: you do to this? 366 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: Hey? 367 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 6: Ron, Hey, you caught me at a car show over 368 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 6: here in my local town with my sixty six Mustang. 369 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 6: Cool but the twenty twenty Silverado. Okay, So my son's 370 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 6: got an O three Silverado and the rats must have 371 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 6: gotten to the fuel line and it's dripping. So I 372 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 6: collected the fuel, you know, and I got about three 373 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 6: gallons worth, okay, and I put it in my twenty 374 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 6: twenty Silverado and I make it then and make it 375 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 6: down the road about a mile and crank, no start. 376 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 6: So call the wrecker taking the mechanic. They took a 377 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 6: look at it and diagnosed that it was cloudy fuel. Okay, 378 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 6: So he dropped the tank, cleaned it out, put it 379 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 6: back up. Try to start a click click click, oh 380 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 6: crank no start. 381 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 4: The motors seized. 382 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, time, Yeah, time. Wait a minute, was 383 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: your son Silverado running at the time? 384 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: No, it was parked and it was dripping gas. 385 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: Well, how long had it been since it was since 386 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: it was run? 387 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 6: Oh uh, I'm not sure I've driven ed it. It 388 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 6: ran fine when I parked it, and it was just. 389 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: Dribbling out gas? Was it time? 390 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: Was it was? 391 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: It? 392 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Was it parked more than a month? 393 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 4: Had it been? 394 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 395 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it had pretty fresh gas in it? 396 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: Okay? But I mean was it was it? You know? 397 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: Was it parked a month? Three months, six months, a year? 398 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: Probably probably three months? 399 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, three months shouldn't do it. Three months should 400 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: cause it to lose its pop and maybe not start. 401 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: But you know, listen, I can't tell you the number 402 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: of classic cars we've had in the shop where it'll 403 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: be a three or four month project and yeah, they 404 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: still start. They start every time. 405 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 6: So don't put gas in your car that you don't 406 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 6: have any knowledge about. 407 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: So then the question, the question I've got is did 408 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: you drain your son's tank? Is your son's tank still 409 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: got the alleged contaminated gas in it? 410 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if it was contaminated. 411 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: By rain water or what. 412 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 4: But no, I haven't drained the tank. 413 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: Well, but but why would rainwater get in the tank? 414 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: And help me understand that? 415 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I don't know, but I like I say, 416 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 6: I caught it from underneath the car when it was dripping, 417 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 6: because the fuel line was was penetrated by rats. 418 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: So maybe maybe some maybe some maybe some rust came 419 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: off the frame rail and got mixed in with the gas. 420 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: Is that what you're thinking? Yeah, well, but I'm thinking bigger. 421 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm thinking bigger chunks of rust and crud. I would 422 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: think you would see that pouring it out. Uh, you know, listen. 423 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: It would be easy for me to sit here and 424 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: say listen, you know, and and I don't want to 425 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: yell at you. You feel bad enough. I got I got 426 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: a hard time buying that this is a result of 427 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: the fuel. I've got to see what kind of fuel 428 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: is coming out of that tank. Can we disconnect the line. 429 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: Let's solve this one step at a time. Can we 430 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: disconnect the line and get a fuel sample out of 431 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: the tank. What does it look like? 432 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 433 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: Right, you know, because to seize the engine, to go 434 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: three miles down the road and seize the engine, I 435 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: could see contaminated fuel here think of it like this. 436 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: Let's say let's say it was pure rust in the 437 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: in the fuel, right, What don't you think? First of all, 438 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: there's a filter in the tank, so that filter would 439 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: clog or restrict a greater portion of it, some of 440 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: the if some of the crud made it through, and 441 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: it probably would, all right, maybe it made its way, 442 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: if you know, maybe it's way made its way up 443 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: to the high pressure fuel fuel pump if it has one. 444 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Depending upon what engine this is, it might affect that, 445 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: and then it would get down to the injectors. I 446 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: could see clogging injectors. Yeah, but to do physical damage 447 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: to the engine. 448 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 4: This is crank. This is cranking in the shops, so 449 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 4: it'll crank. Well, it was cranking. Now it doesn't. And 450 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 4: we took a uh, we took a ranch to the 451 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 4: uh crank and it doesn't turn. 452 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: How many miles around the Silverado fifty? 453 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 454 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't buy that this is fuel. I'd want to 455 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: see a fuel sample, I really would. I'd want to. 456 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: I'd want to see a fuel sample. You put a 457 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: you put a you put a ratchet or I'm sorry, 458 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: a breaker bar in the front of the motor and 459 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: this thing's locked up. Yeah, it's got to have water 460 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: in the fuel. Then it's got to have an extreme 461 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: amount of water in the fuel. 462 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: I guess, all. 463 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Right, I would take a fuel sample, just say, you. 464 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: Know, okay, all right, that's for the other one. Yeah, yeah, 465 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: So we put we pulled the plugs. We put in 466 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: PV Blasser and Marlboro mister oil. We're let this soap 467 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 4: over the weekend, and I hope that will help it. 468 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: You have any other ideas. 469 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: Any any any any liquid come out of the cylinders? Well, again, 470 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time buying that this this this 471 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: failed because of the fuel. I want to see a 472 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: fuel sample. I want to see a fuel sample. I 473 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: want to see how cloudy and dirty it is, all right, 474 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: I want to see an extreme amount of water. All right, 475 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: maybe something hydrostatic locked. But even in the event of 476 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: a hydrostatic lock, I should I should be able to 477 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: crank this. I should be able to move it forwards 478 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: or backwards, and and at least get it to move it. 479 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: Damaged it one way, not the other. But it just 480 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: sounds like something else failed here, and it's just coincidental. 481 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: We're missing a piece of the story. Get a fuel sample. 482 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: Pull a fuel sample out of the tank, and let's 483 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: see what it looks like, all right, and if it 484 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: looks if it looks clean like gasoline, then then you 485 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: got to look for another reason why that engine failed, 486 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: all right, sir? 487 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 4: Let me the next The next The next step is 488 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: they're going to pull the heads. 489 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: And you know, well, because before I pull the heads, 490 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: if if the crank won't turn with the plugs out 491 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: of it, pulling the heads is useless, okay, right, because 492 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: it's the bottom end that's locked up right or or 493 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: or is the trans got a problem and the trans 494 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: is keeping the engine from turning over? 495 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't think. So let's run a 496 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: fine one. It's all right. 497 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: Right, well it was, it was running fine until you 498 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: put the alleged contaminated gas in it too, you know. 499 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: But I mean, if you've got all the plugs out 500 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: of it, you can't crank it over. I don't see what. 501 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't see what pulling the heads is going to do, 502 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: because you should be able to spin it by hand. 503 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, So so let's let's. 504 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Let's let's eliminate the obvious. Let's let's uh, let's get 505 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: a fuel sample. And see what we might have put 506 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: into the tank. Stand the line, John, give Tom your name, 507 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: address and T shirt size. Let me ease your pain 508 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: and send you out a Roninani and the our Doctor 509 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: twenty fiftieth anniversary Celebrate America T shirt. We'll get that 510 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: out of your way and keep us posted. This is 511 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: a good story. I'm curious to hear what happened, all. 512 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: Right, sir, Okay, Love, thanks a lot. 513 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Enjoy the rest of your car show. 514 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car Doctor. We're back right 515 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: after this. Hey, coming into us live from upstate New York. 516 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: Let's go to Bob. I always wanted to do that, Bob. 517 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: How are you welcome? What's going on? 518 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: Hey? 519 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 5: Ryan? So I'm trying to find out whether I hurt 520 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 5: myself or whether this is just a problem with the car. 521 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: So my entertainment system on this twenty fifteen at the 522 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 5: Camery XS, the GBL Premium system was giving me some 523 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 5: inconsistent performance on the GPS system. I went in and 524 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: did an initialization through the screen. All day on the 525 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 5: app button turned the lights twice. I hit the button, 526 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 5: and ever since then, some of the touch positions on 527 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 5: the screen when you're trying to use the radio and 528 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 5: things are not lining right? Did I break the alignment? 529 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: Is that fixable? 530 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: It's fixable. I've seen this before, Bob. And sometimes you 531 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: can buy the bottom half because it's it's it's a 532 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: calibration problem. You hit the audio nod for like three 533 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: to five seconds of display turned off and and came 534 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: back up right. Yeah, and so now it's at of 535 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: calibration and this, this era Camra doesn't provide for complete 536 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: calibration like that. Toyota wants to sell you a new 537 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: control head and I've seen numbers one thousand and fifteen dollars, 538 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: just stupid numbers. There's something, there's a piece called the 539 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: digitizer screen. It's referred to as and I've seen it 540 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: replaced in the aftermarket. You've got to find a source. 541 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: What you could try is and at this point it's broken, 542 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: so you can't break it any worse, right, is try 543 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: taking a playing card or a thin credit card and 544 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: go underneath the bottom bezel and can you gently push 545 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: on the button, so line it up with a button 546 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: you're trying to push. Can you physically get to the 547 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: button with the card and push it does the system 548 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: then work. 549 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 5: And it's it's just out of alignment, right, I mean. 550 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: Right, so, so so if you can physically access those buttons, 551 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: chances are if you can find just that what they 552 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: call the digitizer screen or the inter inter uh what's 553 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: the word, the screen in between? All right, you can 554 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the interface, thank you, the if you can find in 555 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: Bob's a lot going on today. If you can find 556 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: the interface, that screen sometimes called the digitizer, and get 557 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: that replaced, you'll end up saving a bunch of money 558 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: and that will work. 559 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: I mean, it's an eleven year old car, it. 560 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: Works right sort of? 561 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: Okay, right, okay. 562 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: But that's that's that's your answer. So how's life upstate? 563 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: You miss New Jersey? 564 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 4: You know, it's just different. 565 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 5: It just moving up here is just different than it 566 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: was in the New York City metropolitan area. 567 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine. 568 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 5: Not here. 569 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: Some family's up here now. 570 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 5: So it's great. 571 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: Slower pace, right. 572 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 5: It is much slower pace. 573 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, cool beans. It's always good to hear from you, 574 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: my friend. Listen, whether if you did you did, if 575 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: you didn't, make sure you stand on the line. Get 576 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: your car doctor two and fiftieth anniversary T shirt coming 577 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: all right, you'd be well. 578 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: I appreciate you. Have a great Fourth of July. 579 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: Thanks Bob, you two longtime customer right moved out of 580 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: the area, retired. Just a real fun guy, a real 581 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: car guy too. Uh. He's always he's he's drive he 582 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: drives cars like he's driving a fifteen camera. I guarantee 583 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: you that thing's got well over one hundred and fifty 584 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it now, and it just just always 585 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: made sense. Just a real practical kind of guy. But 586 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: that's a common issue, by the way, with the Toyota's 587 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: with the cameras. I see that at the fourteens, the fifteens, 588 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: the sixties, and as good as Toyota is every once 589 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: in a while, sometimes you you know, they have their 590 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: issues too, but they do, they do make good on it. 591 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: There's always a way to fix it. Eight five five 592 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: five six oh nine nine zero zero. I'm running ad 593 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. We'll be back right after this. 594 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Let's go to the mailbed. This one 595 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: comes to us from Sue down in Florida. Dear car doctor, 596 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I recently had my late model Honda. What year Honda 597 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: is this? Nineteen A nineteen Honda Accord and an extensive accident, 598 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: So you got to be specific. My nineteen Honda Accord 599 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: in a front end collision. Ever since I got it 600 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: back from the body shop, it has overheated on me 601 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: each and every time I take it out. Nobody can 602 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: seem to solve the problem. I do notice the cooling 603 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: fan running, and I'm about to service the cooling system 604 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: because even though Honda says it should go longer, I'm 605 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: wondering if maybe put the right coolant back in it, 606 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: and I'm considering running straight cooling to give myself some 607 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: extra cooling ability. What do you think? I think that's 608 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: a mistake. So first of all, let's let's cover the 609 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: Let's cover the obvious first. If the overheat condition wasn't 610 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: there prior to the accident, and I doubt that it was, 611 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: because the way you're worded it sounds like this is 612 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: something new since the accident. The cooling fan is running, 613 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: as you say, all the time. Why does the cooling 614 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: fan run all the time? Is the cooling fan running 615 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: in the correct direction? Is the cooling fan running all 616 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: the time because it's overheating because the cooling fan is 617 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: blowing hot air onto the radiator instead of blowing it forward, 618 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: instead of pulling it in to create proper air distribution 619 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: and heat and cooling. Right stand in front of the 620 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: car when the fan comes on, Is it blowing hot 621 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: air onto your legs? Or is it? Is it not? 622 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: So that's my first question. Okay, which way is the 623 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: air blown when the cooling fan runs? And I've seen 624 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: accident cars where harnesses get damaged and they'll rewire the 625 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: harness and they'll get creative and they'll do all kinds 626 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: of goofy things, and you find out they've got the 627 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: cooling fin run in the wrong direction. That's number one. 628 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: Number two, don't run straight coolant. You can't run straight coolant. 629 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: Straight coolant has a different density. It will not transmit 630 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: or flow the heat away correctly like a fifty to 631 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: fifty mixture. You know, you've really got to give credit 632 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: to companies like Peak Peak Coolant. All right, we talk 633 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: about them all the time. I was driving around in 634 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: my four suburban the other day. It was one hundred 635 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: and three degrees here in New Jersey and I'm driving 636 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: around in my twenty five year old suburban. Whatever twenty 637 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: three year old suburban air conditioning on the ace's blowing 638 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: forty five degrees. It's one hundred and three degrees out 639 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, I'm so glad I serviced 640 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: it recently with correct coolant, using peak of course, like 641 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: I always do, and it worked and the cooling system's 642 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: holding up. Well, you know, consider maybe the body shop 643 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: didn't service the cooling system properly. If it was a 644 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: big enough hit that it got to the radiator, as 645 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: you indicate elsewhere in your email, then perhaps they've assembled 646 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: something wrong. Perhaps they ran straight coolant and they're creating 647 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: their overheating condition. I would look back at the work 648 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: that the body shop did. I would look back at 649 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: which way the cooling fan is running, because I think 650 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: that's going to be your problem. And last, you don't 651 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: mention whether this overheats whether you're traveling down the road 652 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: at speed or whether you're idling in a parking lot. 653 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: Are all the air dams, all the little air deflectors. 654 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot more going on to these 655 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: cars today than just a fan, a radiator and a bumper. 656 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of panels that direct there. There's a 657 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: lot of places where if they're missing lower spoilers, lower balances, 658 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: that car won't have proper airflow, and that car will 659 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: have a tendency to overheat. So in order correct coolant peak. 660 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: You can find that it advanced autoparts. You can also 661 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: go back over the work that was done and look 662 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: at this from that particular perspective. I'm running any in 663 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: the car doctor till the next time. Good mechanics are 664 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: and expensive, they're priceless. 665 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 6: See Yu, He's a car doctor. 666 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: Carr Advice dot rye